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0:00You are a fictional construct within
0:02the illusion. Only the being that you
0:05are can create an experience in the
0:07illusion. Free means that the being you
0:11are lives; it means you no longer
0:13desire anything. But freedom can only
0:17be obtained when you are free from
0:18dependencies. If I depend on someone,
0:21there is no freedom.
0:23There are different levels of existence
0:25, and we are on a plane of existence to
0:27which we will awaken. I like that
0:31definition of freedom from dependencies
0:33, but Marcos, honestly, how do we do
0:36that?
0:38How do we get out of that?
0:40Uh, you cannot get out of it. That is
0:42the first step you have to understand.
0:45Your being knows how to get out of that
0:47matrix we are talking about. You do not
0:49. A being can access anything that has
0:52happened in the universe. So, why does
0:55it need another being? Why does it need
0:57to channel it? So, the only thing that
1:00needs it are egos, and egos want a
1:02channeling. That’s where a lot of
1:04confusion comes from, I know, and many
1:06don't like it because who is going to
1:08defend that? It is the ego once again.
1:10Observe, observe. Cognitive dissonance.
1:13You are going to defend your beliefs.
1:15You go, uh, ah, no, no. The other one
1:18is crazy. Ah, well, I don't care about
1:20that. You don't have to believe. Your
1:22being already knows it. You don't have
1:24to understand it. The one who wants to
1:26understand things and wants to make
1:28sense of it is what you are not.
1:30In the yogic tradition, we say that if
1:32you do nothing, matter traps you, or
1:34the ego traps you more and more. Jesus
1:39truly said, "We must be like children
1:41so that we may truly go back to
1:43paradise." Another aspect he always
1:46told us: if you want liberation, leave
1:48everything behind and follow me. To be
1:51free is when you have no attachment to
1:53anything. Play is when you play, when
1:56there is no purpose in the game. When
1:58there is a purpose in the game, you are
2:00no longer playing. Everything you
2:03currently believe about yourself is
2:05alien and does not come from the heart.
2:08I want to provoke, provoke you to
2:10question me, but immediately question
2:13yourself. You have just reached a
2:21chapter that will literally blow your
2:22mind. And even though you've seen other
2:26chapters that may have made you reflect
2:28a little, this one will make you
2:30reflect, and a lot. It’s the case
2:34that I’ve been thinking for an hour.
2:36I just finished it. We were already
2:38dismantling everything. But I want to
2:41warn you, take what you see in this
2:43chapter with caution, seek good advice.
2:47It is a spectacular exit from the
2:49Matrix, but take it with caution.
2:54Thanks for being there and I hope you
2:56follow us, because as you’ve seen on
2:58other channels, we also look at who
3:00follows us, who doesn’t, and more
3:01than 65%of the people who watch the
3:03episodes don’t follow us. So if you
3:09like this content, please follow us,
3:11share, leave a like, and what I’m
3:13going to ask you is to leave a comment
3:15on what you’re about to see, because
3:17it’s going to blow your mind. And
3:22share it with someone who knows what
3:23we’ll be talking about, because
3:25it’s crazy. Well, Jordi, today we
3:33have someone who is more your profile,
3:35because I’m quite a newbie when it
3:37comes to fasting. You’ve been at this
3:42for a while, and then there's the
3:44philosophy of living more from
3:45spirituality and less from materiality
3:47—I don’t know if you’d call it
3:49that. Eh, it’s also quite new. Until
3:55I had two accidents. Uh, in the first
3:59one I learned nothing, and in the
4:01second one neither, but at least after
4:03a year I said, "I can't be writing a
4:05book about this and not practicing it.
4:08How incoherent I'm being." And today we
4:13are here with Marcus White. This was
4:20something you really wanted to talk
4:22about, these topics of how we can
4:24transcend the body toward a life that
4:26is more, I don’t know what to call it
4:33, how would you call it? More spiritual
4:35, more from within, more like what yoga
4:37perhaps promotes. Well, very excited to
4:43be here today with Marcus and I think
4:47it’s a a great opportunity to see
4:51another way of living. And if the that
5:05that perspective of what is outside, of
5:07what is normal for us, but I don’t
5:09know what normal is.
5:13Yes, exactly.
5:15Hello, Marcus, and thanks for being
5:17here.
5:18Hello. Hello. Well, what is normal here
5:24is that everyone asks themselves, and
5:26often we believe things are normal but
5:28they are beliefs; it’s like believing
5:30in God or believing in certain things,
5:33and you don’t know what the truth is
5:35because it requires a belief. It’s
5:41through self-observation and
5:43experimenting, and also through
5:44deepening one’s connection to the
5:46body. Many see the body as something
5:53superficial without really
5:54understanding that it’s their vehicle
5:56—who is actually using the vehicle,
5:58and is it mostly being used by
6:00something external to that vehicle, or
6:02that avatar? And that’s where the
6:06problems come in. Uh, when we truly
6:11observe what we really need, you see it
6:13in the manifestation of your being
6:15within your body, because it is what
6:18keeps the body alive, not something
6:20external. That is obvious. Well, for
6:25some no, but, uh, only through
6:27observation can you see that you are a
6:29manifestation within that illusion of
6:31your being. So, the being keeps it
6:35alive. Well, from that first stem cell
6:39when you are born until now, if that
6:41consciousness is removed, the body dies
6:43. So, what keeps your body alive, that
6:48is obvious, it is what you are and not
6:50what you think you are. And that is the
6:54great problem. You think you are the
6:57body, but no. You use the body, and
7:00those are two things where people get
7:02confused.
7:04That is a very, very good philosophy.
7:08The case is that, I don't know if you
7:10know, I had an accident, as I mentioned
7:12, where I fractured my spine, and I
7:14fractured my spine in three places. In
7:18theory, I should have had a bit of a
7:20grim outcome, et cetera. And it
7:23happened just a month after 9/11. And
7:29of course, I had a small business, I
7:31had just started, being very young, I
7:34had a company I was growing, et cetera,
7:36and the accident didn't come at a good
7:38time with the economic crisis that was
7:40coming. I had to lay off employees. No,
7:44no. This thing about being in bed for
7:47so many months and being told maybe
7:49you'll be on crutches or other things,
7:51no, that didn't convince me. And and
7:55that my father, I had been hearing my
7:57father's story for a long time about
7:59how he regenerated himself by talking
8:01to his body. You just said something
8:04that is key for me. The body is a being
8:07. We are others. We do a kind of
8:11coexistence and and that is what I
8:15understand from you, if I'm not
8:17mistaken, right? That we are the being
8:21that gives guidance to the body, and if
8:23this being leaves, well, the body does
8:25not continue. Understood that? Correct?
8:31Well, that is something everyone can
8:33observe. Exactly.
8:37Well, maybe not in oneself, but in
8:39those who are dying, one sees that
8:41something leaves, something leaves.
8:46Well, nowadays science actually knows
8:48because when they have measured people
8:50who are in the, what are they called?
8:55The dying. The dying, in the state of
8:58transitioning, it is seen that they
9:00lose weight, and they lose up to 1 kg
9:02in weight. So, science cannot explain
9:08how I could lose a kilo of weight from
9:11one moment to the next, right? It would
9:15be slowly that it could perhaps be
9:17explained, but not from one moment to
9:19the next. So, your spirit really does
9:21have weight. It's very important, it's
9:25very interesting to see when something
9:27has weight, has a body, has mass.
9:30Weight is mass. And when it is in mass,
9:33it lives in the three dimensions, in
9:35space. Space is required for masses and
9:38mass needs space. It means your spirit
9:42is still part of that matrix. Important
9:46to understand
9:47the interrelation that exists between
9:49all things, right? That connecting link
9:52.
9:53But how good is that which you just
9:55Yes, yes. It's uh Yes, yes. Your spirit
9:58is like a bond. So you, well, spirit is
10:02often much easier for me in German
10:05because mind and spirit are the same
10:07word. So through that mind you identify
10:11with yourself. Well, many who die and
10:15return uh are seeing their body. But,
10:19how do they know that is a body? Who
10:21knows that is my body? Obviously your
10:25mind that believes that is its body,
10:27the being doesn't care about that, but
10:29that's where that understanding comes
10:30in. Your spirit is still part uh of
10:34that, those ties. So, you are free,
10:38truly free when you are also out of the
10:40spirit. Well, we are also in a matrix
10:46there, it's something else, but you
10:48really exit the body, but with the
10:49spirit, but then you have to exit the
10:52ah spirit as well. And you could see
10:58that because there are entities,
11:00spirits here, because they haven't let
11:02go of the idea of the body, that this
11:04is me, this is my mind. And so the
11:07moment you let go of the mind, the idea
11:10of yourself, then you go. It's obvious.
11:13So there you can see mind and spirit
11:15are the bond.
11:17Marcos, have you written a book?
11:20Yes,
11:21yes.
11:22I even wanted to tell you. tell us
11:24about your book.
11:29Uh, well, there I explain those things
11:31that one can really observe, but I
11:33didn't really want to write books
11:34because I know when I read a book, I am
11:37not reading myself.
11:41Mm.
11:43So, you shouldn't orient yourself
11:44toward the illusion, but within
11:46yourself is all the wisdom and you
11:48don't have to look outside. So, every
11:52time I look for something outside, I
11:54don't recognize what I have inside. And
11:57that's why any book you look for, you
11:59have to ask, why am I looking for a
12:01book? So, is it because I don't trust?
12:05So, that's why I didn't want to support
12:09that of listen to yourself, you don't
12:11have to know anything. But I understood
12:14that the majority don't want to ah need
12:16to read that they don't have to read.
12:20So I wrote the book so you know that
12:22you don't have to read the book. Ah,
12:26it’s that strong because you are
12:28something that has access. How good it
12:31is.
12:32You, you as a being, as your self, also
12:35have a an access to a higher mind, well
12:41, you can call it the universal mind.
12:46So, you as a being can access the
12:48universal mind and it’s there. But,
12:52uh, we create an individual mind
12:54through our ego character, do you
12:56understand me? And that’s where those
13:02those those problems come from and
13:04those ah eh those ideas about ourselves
13:06and then you generate two. So you think
13:10we are two, right? The one is
13:12fictitious, that is the personal ego
13:14because it is programmed by others, and
13:17what you really are. So, not to digress
13:22too much, eh, there you can understand
13:24that in reality when I react to others
13:26'ideas, they don't come from my heart
13:29if they are programs. I execute a
13:34program, well, the main program they
13:36educate you with is eating and they
13:38also educate you to be someone you are
13:40not, something, someone you are not.
13:43For example, you, that thing you see in
13:45the mirror, that's me, no, that’s
13:47what you’re using, the being knows it
13:49, but then the ego character takes
13:51command, and in that moment you are no
13:53longer living because you are living a
13:55programmed life. So, all the
13:57experiences you have are useless. No,
14:00no, nothing. Well, the only experience
14:03that is useful is to realize that you
14:05don't have to have experiences.
14:07How?
14:07Because you cannot have experiences.
14:09Because that, that is, is obvious. You
14:12are a fictitious construction in the
14:14illusion. The illusion in the illusion
14:18cannot have an experience. Only the
14:21being that you are can have an
14:23experience in the illusion. But when
14:26the ego dominates, the ego is
14:28fictitious, you don't live. So you live
14:31an external, programmed life, and you
14:33can see it in yourself easily because
14:35many ideas about you wouldn't be born
14:37in you if you hadn't been educated. The
14:41way you copy some habits from your
14:43parents, then habits from society, and
14:45all that is pure copying, orienting
14:47yourself outward. That's why I didn't
14:52really want to write the book because
14:54it's always orienting outward, because
14:56inside you is the wisdom. So, returning
14:59to what I wanted to say, it's because
15:01children, mostly children under 3 years
15:04old, in reality won't touch fire, won't
15:11touch a knife, and they don't get hurt.
15:14And why? Because they are still in
15:18their being and the being knows the
15:20best future for them because it has
15:22access to that universal mind. So there
15:25is no problem, there is no danger,
15:27there is nothing. But then you generate
15:30an individual mind and isolate yourself
15:32from that knowledge, and then you go
15:34and touch the fire again. It's truly
15:40absurd because if we are all one, one
15:42that we are literally all one, then why
15:44do I have to repeat the same thing you
15:46did? It makes no sense. And you can see
15:53that, for example, in animals; once a
15:56horse knows, well, all animals really
15:58know fire is dangerous because there
16:00was once a horse in the past that had
16:02that experience; the experience doesn't
16:04have to be repeated. Yet we repeat
16:11nonsense that isn't experience; it's
16:13just confusion, and that can be
16:15observed. So, in reality, we aren't
16:21living; we live the lives of others,
16:23and that obviously generates anxiety,
16:25and when you're anxious, you need a
16:27drug. Marcos,
16:30whatever it may be.
16:31Now,
16:32yes,
16:33we have entered the Age of Aquarius. We
16:39suffered through COVID, where our
16:41freedoms were restricted. A greater
16:48desire for freedom has appeared in
16:50people, a desire to experiment, to live
16:53, to be more in the moment, to connect
16:55with nature, and to reconnect with
16:57oneself. What is it? You have
17:03experimented a lot with freedom. What
17:06does it mean for you to be free?
17:10Ah, free means that the being that you
17:12are is living. You, as in your
17:16interpretation of freedom, you can't do
17:18it. It sounds a bit strange, but well,
17:22you are something fictional. So, your
17:25idea of freedom is "leave me alone and
17:27I'll do whatever I feel like." But who
17:30wants to do whatever they feel like?
17:32It's that—that which you are not. So,
17:35you automatically get tangled up in
17:37that. So, seeing freedom means that you
17:40no longer desire anything. That is the
17:46problem. The one who desires is
17:48actually that which you are not. So,
17:50the moment you let go of desires, then
17:53in that moment the being manifests and
17:55will guide you to the perfect life, but
17:57all your desires anchor you to that
17:59illusion. So, in that moment, you just
18:03go in circles, you get tangled up there
18:06, and obviously, the system shortens
18:08your leash a bit so that you are more
18:10obedient. So you seek, at a certain
18:15point, freedom from the system, but who
18:17is seeking freedom from the system? It
18:20is the jailer of the soul. So that is
18:22the great entanglement. Freedom is
18:24something else. Freedom, well, my form
18:27of freedom. Freedom is that my being
18:30uses this body; that is freedom. And in
18:33that moment, I have to learn to desire
18:35nothing. Purely through the character,
18:38there are no desires, there are no
18:40thoughts. Free thinking, because
18:43thinking also creates the ego persona,
18:45thinking of the future, the past,
18:47dancing. Living in the present is truly
18:50being free and living.
18:54Do you mean that the fact of being in
18:56society and wanting to fit into it, uh,
18:58causes in a way a loss of freedom, and
19:06that through detachment we can find
19:08greater freedom? Yes, because society
19:13itself is already corrupted. No one
19:17wants to live in a society like that.
19:20Uh, what we should do is live in
19:22communities. It's like a tribal form.
19:27It's living together among beings in a
19:29human body. And in those communities,
19:35well, there is no money, there is no
19:38ownership, there is no "I want more,"
19:40and uh no, everyone thinks of the other
19:42, they have true compassion, and it is
19:45within us. We know that the other is
19:50part of me, so I will wish the best for
19:52the other. But in this society we live
19:55in, everyone thinks only of themselves.
19:57That is an egoic system. Each person
20:00only wants the best for themselves. And
20:02the big force is greed. Everyone wants
20:05more, more and more money. What do you
20:07want more money for?
20:09M When you spoke of the perfect life,
20:11are you referring to this?
20:15To human life, that is human life. We
20:19really came from tribal lives and they
20:22put us now, or they want to put us into
20:2415-minute lives. What nonsense is that?
20:29Please, we want to be sharing with
20:31others, playing, which is what children
20:33really show us. Children show us how to
20:38live. Ah, we are meeting someone new.
20:40Oh, let's play, and we play whatever.
20:43And it's just that, it's just living
20:45together in a tribe as well. It is
20:48living together, having, uh, some
20:50experiences, but not so much toward the
20:53illusion, but more inward. So, in that
20:58game, in a tribe, we have more time for
21:00ourselves and you will work on your
21:02inner self, not so much on the illusion
21:05. The current system is designed for
21:08your attention to be 100%outward.
21:10Outside, all the time outside. So, you
21:13never have time to really listen to
21:15yourself, to be in silence. And we have
21:19to return there, we have to, because
21:21right now everyone can see it. Uh,
21:24everyone is unhappy. No one is happy,
21:28and they see happiness—let's say a
21:30false happiness, a false pleasure.
21:35Meaning, when I seek happiness, I live
21:37unhappily. If I seek pleasure, I also
21:40live in misery. This is obvious. So, as
21:44long as I seek that, something in my
21:46life doesn't add up, something is wrong
21:48with how I'm living. But many don't
21:51want to observe that, they would rather
21:53look for another distraction. And the
21:55big distraction is obviously food, and
21:57these days it's the cell phone and a
21:59thousand other things. Pure distraction
22:02because I don't want to listen to
22:04myself. And that is clear when you see
22:08you have a personal ego and a being
22:10inside, and those work with a body;
22:12there will always be friction and you
22:14can feel it, and everyone feels those
22:16moments of anguish because they are out
22:18there doing something they don't want
22:20to do and feel forced by this society
22:22to work. Nobody wants to work. So,
22:27while I am forced to do something, it
22:29causes anxiety. And to calm the anxiety
22:32, one needs a drug. And there we are
22:34trapped in that vicious cycle, dancing,
22:37thinking, distracting ourselves, but in
22:39reality, we aren't living. And many
22:42feel that: I want freedom. But you can
22:46only obtain freedom when you are free
22:48from dependencies. If I depend on
22:51someone, there is no freedom. So, of
22:54course, when you depend on a master,
22:56they are going to tell you to do this
22:58or not to do that. Or they say "needle"
23:02or "no needle," so I am not free. So if
23:06I depend on food, depend on money, and
23:08most strongly, depend on seeking love.
23:13Meaning affection, let's say with a
23:15partner, or affection with family,
23:17there is no freedom because in that
23:19moment I will be obedient, looking for
23:21something to receive something, and I
23:23will do something I don't want to do.
23:26One can easily see it in the family;
23:28you feel obligated, you sacrifice a lot
23:31for the family, but sacrifice is not
23:33something you do from the heart, but
23:35because you think you have to.
23:37Obviously, that causes anxiety again,
23:39the money. You work because you seek
23:42money, because you think you need it.
23:45Then, ah, food; I have to do labor to
23:47get money to buy myself food and all
23:50that. You are trapped, you are a
23:53perfect slave, and because you have
23:55dependency, you are a slave. That's
23:58right. Exactly. Well, inside the system
24:00means, when you want to free yourself
24:02from the system, you have to observe
24:04your dependencies. But for me, freedom
24:07is when the being that I am truly uses
24:09the body. So that I, as Marcos,
24:13thinking I am Marcos, no longer
24:15interferes, meaning no desires, nothing
24:18, I surrender completely. I don't put
24:22anything into that anymore. And that is
24:25very beautiful because it gives, it
24:27gives an inner peace. You know? Someone
24:31who is in charge, who knows everything
24:33perfectly for me. You can observe it
24:38right now, but in your body, a million
24:40cells die every minute. Eh, who is
24:43replacing them? You don't do it. So,
24:48there is a force behind it, a
24:50consciousness that is much clearer and
24:52superior to the consciousness or what
24:54you think of as your egoic
24:56understanding of the person, because
24:58you only create chaos, you really cause
25:00an imbalance in your body; and your
25:02body, when you leave it alone, balances
25:05itself, and that is truly called
25:07homeostasis. Well, medicine recognizes
25:11it: that your body balances and heals
25:13itself from everything on its own,
25:15without you getting involved.
25:18There is one thing, I mean, you have
25:20given me a new definition of exiting
25:22the Matrix. That is good because, look,
25:26just a few weeks ago, I don't know, uh,
25:32I had a chat with a girl who is a
25:34channeler, and for her it was, she did,
25:39I mean, imagine someone who channels,
25:42sees, reads minds, I mean, this is very
25:44strange, but we did a test live and,
25:46and I don't know how she does it. Okay.
25:49I mean, she receives a photo easily. Ah
25:52, yes. Wow, now we are getting into
25:55that. Now we are getting into that. And
25:58and so she was looking for the reason
26:00behind things and she had a let's call
26:05it a significant romantic misalignment,
26:08and it didn't matter how much of a
26:10channeler or medium she was, it was
26:11breaking her, and in the end she went
26:14to Peru to have an experience with
26:15ancestral medicine. There are words I
26:19am going to avoid because otherwise
26:21YouTube starts flagging things. And she
26:25started using ancestral medicine and
26:27spent a week there in Peru and she says
26:29, "Well, I'm going to tell you what
26:31happened to me because Rudy, this is
26:33madness." and she saw herself leaving,
26:38I mean, this business of leaving the
26:40body can be taken as normal in someone
26:43who channels, right? She is continually
26:45making these astral trips, out-of-body
26:47experiences, but she says she left,
26:49that she left, that she started to see
26:52that she was moving up levels, she
26:54started to see how she was exiting
26:56layers, even a layer that looked like
26:58gel. And when she ended up in the gel
27:01layer, she saw in a room a being that
27:03was with a technological device, and
27:05that being was not human. She thinks it
27:10was a "urma" and that it was her. And
27:16then she hears some voices that in
27:18theory were the voices of guides who
27:20were telling her, "That is you, but in
27:22reality it's not you, you are also
27:24inside the game, but you are that
27:26consciousness that is directing the..."
27:28And she started, it was click after
27:30click, and for her, exiting the Matrix
27:33was very similar to the movie. I don't
27:37know if you've seen it, it was very
27:39similar. I mean, you take Neo out, you
27:41pull him out of this game and then
27:42he’s Neo again, and at the end of
27:44Matrix two, three, or four, he says, "
27:46So the game hasn't ended yet." It's
27:48just that he's still in the game.
27:49He’s made another level, kind of like
27:51that DiCaprio movie, right? You wake up
27:53and say, "Ah, I’m finally awake.""And
27:55then you wake up again and say," Well
27:57damn, so what was that? "" But you gave
28:00a much more, I don’t know what to
28:05call it, but it’s different. The
28:09system, if—let's see if I understood
28:11this right—the system is created for
28:14you to be a pawn of the system and not
28:16try to escape, so that you can't have
28:18desires of the being, only desires of
28:21the ego. And so within these ego
28:25desires, you start to generate
28:26dependencies. The dependencies don't
28:29belong to your being, but to your ego.
28:31Dependency on food, dependency on
28:33wanting something, dependency on
28:35needing a woman, dependency on needing
28:37a car, dependency on needing to move
28:39the body, dependency, I mean, whatever
28:42you call it, a shackle, an obligation
28:44to get up in the morning. But in
28:50reality, like African tribes, they
28:52learn to—or what I understand—or
28:54indigenous people learn how to coexist.
29:03It's that being that relates to other
29:04beings to interpret the experience of
29:06being human. And so they start to
29:13collaborate, to learn and to integrate
29:15with nature and in that symbiosis. That
29:22is the free being, and the shackled
29:24being is us, right? Wearing clothes on
29:28a podcast talking to the audience that
29:30is watching us. They're all screwed now
29:33, they're all—don't kill yourselves,
29:35no, it’s nothing. And I understood
29:38that well. Did you understand that? I
29:40mean, I think I defined it, right? I
29:45mean, you have a different vision
29:47because, obviously, when you mentioned
29:50the illusion, it—it conveyed to me
29:52how yoga sees the illusion, meaning,
29:54this reality isn't just an illusion,
29:56right? That was it, I understood that
30:01well back then. Yes, yes, that there
30:05are different levels of existence and
30:07we are on a plane of existence that we
30:09will wake up to. But we are in an
30:16existence that we perceive materially,
30:18but what I really liked was that bit
30:20about the pawn you mentioned. And if we
30:25can, we have the quality of the pawn to
30:27go step by step, we have the quality.
30:32of the knight to jump, we have the
30:34quality of the bishop to move
30:36diagonally, we have the quality of the
30:38queen to go in all directions, and we
30:40are kings, right? I liked that part.
30:44Did you like it? Well, I was trying to
30:48understand it from him and I liked that
30:51definition of freedom without
30:52dependencies, but honestly, Marco, to
30:54be sincere, how do we do that?
30:59How do we get out of that?
31:01Uh, you cannot get out of it. That is
31:04the first step you have to understand
31:05because you are the jailer of the soul.
31:08So, how can an ego free itself from the
31:11ego? It doesn't work like that. Well,
31:13no.
31:14You are the jailer of the soul. What?
31:16That's right. Your attitude and your
31:19thinking. So when you think "with a
31:21technique I will free myself." How are
31:24you going to free yourself with a
31:26technique? A technique requires you to
31:27believe in the technique, and the one
31:29applying the technique is the personal
31:31ego. So, you are not going to dissolve
31:33it, obviously. So, don't get confused
31:36by that. Uh, freedom is when you desire
31:40nothing, when you stop empowering your
31:42being, because the being knows what to
31:44do and what it wants to do. You cannot
31:47know that. You execute and follow
31:51others and what they want you to
31:52believe, and there you are completely
31:54entangled. Well, you shouldn't believe
31:57in anything, nothing, zero, not in
31:59anything, not a religion, nothing.
32:02Because who believes is what you are
32:03not. And therein lies the catch.
32:07Because your being, as I tried to
32:09explain and as can be seen in certain,
32:12uh, observations, your being has access
32:14to the universal mind. Everything that
32:17has happened in the universe remains
32:18recorded. So, when I have access to a
32:21database, I can calculate the best
32:24future. That is normally called hyp-
32:29akashic records,
32:31right? Ah, no, no. Well, you call that
32:34akashic, but that is the universal mind
32:37. Everything that happens in the
32:40universe remains recorded in a database
32:42and your mind, uh, that is like, but
32:44your mind is isolated from that because
32:47it is created through foreign ideas,
32:49the idea that you are, uh, the person.
32:52So, everything you believe is useless
32:54and it is not necessary for you to
32:56believe in something. So, there it is.
33:00So we return to the child, that the
33:02child knows the best future for itself.
33:04So you can calculate, or your being
33:06knows the best future for you. So your
33:10being knows how to get out of that
33:11matrix we talked about. You do not. You
33:15are going to follow ideas that others
33:17have told you. That is why you
33:20shouldn't have the desire to leave.
33:24That is where the problem comes in.
33:27Because who wants to leave is really
33:28the ego character. So, you just have to
33:33empower your being. And empowering your
33:37being means wanting nothing and doing
33:39nothing. And those are the most
33:42difficult points because we have been
33:44educated, trained, that we have to do
33:46something all the time. Well, that is
33:50my observation. Everyone can distract
33:53themselves however they want, but you
33:55don't have to do it. And well, the
34:00great dilemma of channeling is who am I
34:02going to channel with? and how do I
34:07channel, right?
34:09Who do I connect with? If I...well, you
34:13have to see, we really only see 0.5%of
34:16that video game, of that matrix, we are
34:19truly blind. So, all other entities see
34:24us and mainly use us as fools. So, as
34:31long as you again believe what you are
34:33hearing, you fall into the "I have to
34:35believe it."
34:39And that is also in the system, you
34:41mean?
34:41That's right. It is part of the system,
34:44it is part of the matrix. And that is
34:49what many don't want to accept, but
34:51observe, just observe why would a being
34:53need information if a being can access
34:55anything that has happened in the
34:56universe. So, why do they need another
35:01being? Why channel it? What is that? So
35:06, the only thing it needs are egos, and
35:09egos want a channeling there. A lot of
35:13confusion comes from that. I know it.
35:15And many don't like it because who is
35:17going to defend that is again the ego.
35:22Observe, observe because we are so in
35:24our bubble, and that is actually called
35:26, what is it called? Ah, cognitive
35:33dissonance. You are going to defend
35:35your beliefs. You uh uh ah no, no. The
35:38other person is a lunatic. Ah, well, I
35:40don't care about that. You observe,
35:42observe in what created thing you are
35:44going to defend your belief because you
35:46don't have to believe. Your being
35:48already knows it. Why do you believe?
35:50Who believes? Someone who doesn't trust
35:52. And that is where we get tangled up
35:55very, very easily. Well, the system
35:58obviously knows that we are kind of
36:00fools in the spiritual aspect and we
36:03believe anything. That is why spiritual
36:07or religious people are the most
36:09vulnerable. Also,
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37:53because they fall easily. into the
37:55beliefs. Yes, yes. Well,
37:57of course,
37:58that is my observation
37:59and a very good one. Yes, yes, very
38:01good and new to me. I mean, it breaks
38:0552 previous podcast episodes, but it's
38:07very good; I mean, no, but it’s a
38:09great observation, this thing you were
38:12mentioning about Well, you wanted to
38:16ask something, otherwise I’ll just
38:18keep going. Uh,
38:20what I wanted to say is that it’s a
38:22great observation because looking at it
38:26from perspective, there’s no way to
38:30understand where to start. And the
38:34beauty of it, the most beautiful thing
38:36is, you don’t have to understand it.
38:40And who wants to understand?
38:42Exactly. The one who wants to
38:44understand things and wants to figure
38:46them out is what you are not. There
38:48comes the trap again. So you let go. Ah
38:50, if I don't understand it. Mm, I won't
38:52even get into it. But you want to solve
38:56, you want to understand. Who wants
38:58that? What you are not. And that is
39:02where our obstacles always come from,
39:04instead of, "Right now I surrender, I'm
39:07going to play, I leave all the power to
39:09that which I can observe every second
39:11in my body," because who keeps it alive
39:13? I can observe that body. That is not
39:17me. So, why would I take control if I
39:20see perfection in my body? Wake up,
39:25surrender to the consciousness that you
39:27truly are, and learn to do nothing and
39:29believe in nothing. But I know that is
39:34the hardest part, because I hold those
39:37retreats, and well, the "not doing" is
39:39so intense, because we are so strongly
39:41caught up in the "doing." Fasting is
39:45easy. During those 8 days, people
39:48aren't hungry until I do 4 days of dry
39:50fasting, meaning no liquids, staying
39:53completely relaxed. The problem is the
39:55lack of activity and the silence.
39:59People quickly start talking, venting,
40:01and wanting things; they can't maintain
40:03the silence and the lack of activity.
40:06Those are the hardest things. Lauro.
40:09It’s honestly easy.
40:11Damn, seriously? I thought it was the
40:13other way around.
40:17No. Fasting is the simplest thing
40:19physically once you've done it before,
40:21but in silence, you truly confront that
40:24anxiety, because you use occupation all
40:26the time as a distraction, so you don't
40:28have to see. And the moment there is no
40:33distraction—we aren't going to read,
40:35we aren't going to distract ourselves
40:37with anything, no meditating or
40:39anything—there is no activity, so you
40:41really just sit still and observe. You
40:43learn to observe; true primary
40:45meditation is observing and getting to
40:47the cause. That is meditating. And many
40:52people use meditation as a distraction
40:54or to calm their anxiety instead of
40:56asking, "Why am I anxious? What leads
40:59me to anxiety?" And that is what I
41:04invite people to do, and it’s hard,
41:06it’s very hard, I know, but in the
41:08end, they discover so much about
41:10themselves, where the anxiety actually
41:12comes from. And that is why anxiety, or
41:18addiction—any addiction, be it a
41:20phone, food, alcohol, cigarettes—is
41:22only the means you use to calm the
41:25anxiety; but you have the anxiety,
41:27it’s just the effect, you have to get
41:29to the cause of the anxiety. If you
41:32eliminate the cause of the anxiety, you
41:35no longer need a drug. So, the drug is
41:37not the problem; the life you lead is.
41:40The life you lead is not natural, and
41:42that is why it is not right and causes
41:44anxiety, and it's because "natural"
41:46means living through your being. Being
41:49means: "Well, let's play." But working
41:54and seeking love in a partner, food,
41:56everything is a distraction and
41:58obviously lowers your vibration,
42:00because everything is vibration; and so
42:03you are very unconscious. And when you
42:09are once in silence and fasting, your
42:11vibration automatically rises and you
42:13have a different perception of
42:14everything around you. You perceive
42:18things differently. That is why they
42:20always keep you drugged so that you
42:22don't perceive anything. They keep you
42:26stupid, literally they keep you stupid
42:28with food, with your cell phone, and
42:30with other toxins that exist so that
42:32you don't wake up. I mean, waking up is
42:37nothing more than your being taking
42:39command, and they don't want the being
42:41to take command, so they keep you in a
42:43state of, well, hypnosis at certain
42:45moments. Well, I would say that part of
42:53the blessing of life, if one can see it
42:56as a blessing, like like we were
43:01talking about a game too, in yoga we
43:03call it the lila game. Um, it's fine.
43:11Yes, yes, yes,
43:12yes. It's that really, despite the
43:17conditioning, we can experience freedom
43:25and
43:25the game of life.
43:27You said it.
43:28Yes. So, uh, this freedom can be to
43:36to enjoy the game,
43:37to enjoy the game, as Marcus says very
43:40well, right? This stopping and
43:42observing in order not to believe.
43:48Whoever wants not to believe and and
43:52experience this detachment from beliefs
43:54. Life is so wonderful that it allows
43:58you to be you, it allows you to
44:02experience life and creation. In this
44:07in this case, for example, in in yoga,
44:16we use this observation, this
44:18questioning, and also a a thing that is
44:20mentorship, which is um those people
44:29who have realized a state of great
44:30connection with their being. In this
44:36game that is the path of yoga, they
44:41have transmitted to us a series of
44:43principles, beliefs, a way of living
44:50that helps you live in greater harmony
44:51with yourself and with the environment.
44:58And of course, one can can say, "Hey,
45:00well look, this belief system I feel
45:03reconnects me, I feel it makes me, uh,
45:05experience greater harmony or balance."
45:14We have this freedom. In yoga, we also
45:18practice fasting there,
45:21but with any technique, I say nothing.
45:23I mean, the point is, what is your
45:25perspective? And mainly where we get
45:30confused is the ego has an idea that it
45:32has improved its life and thinks there
45:34was a change, but whoever believes
45:36there was a change is what you are not.
45:42So, really you only repainted the cage
45:45and now the cage has rose-colored hues,
45:47but you are in the cage because you
45:49still believe and act and do things. In
45:53the end, you must do nothing. You must
45:55truly have the only freedom I am
45:57observing is where we came from. Well,
46:01communities first, but a child's life
46:03is the only way. A child doesn't need
46:06routines, uh, dogmas, rituals, or any
46:09of that. They don't need anything. Just
46:12to play. Just to play. That's what we
46:14come here for. To explore by playing
46:17that illusion. But they really take
46:20that away from us starting at 3 or 4
46:22years old because that’s when the ego
46:24persona forms. After that, you do all
46:27your performances, not through a child,
46:29but through a bored adult, with
46:31programming. I have to work, I have to
46:34study, I have to be someone. But in
46:36reality, you are a happy being here
46:38playing, but they don't let you play.
46:41And that's where the friction comes
46:42from. And that's where we have to
46:45return to. We just have to return to
46:47the child that is already inside us. So
46:51you don't have to do a certain
46:52technique or anything for that. You
46:55just have to realize that what you're
46:57doing isn't working. And obviously
47:03there are many paths they always say
47:04will lead you there, but you don't have
47:06to take any path, because the one
47:08taking the path is again the ego
47:10persona that thinks it has to take a
47:12path and I get trapped again. Well,
47:16don't get confused. Even if the things
47:21you’ve learned give you a certain
47:22step, you have to reach a point where
47:24you let go. Because if the life you
47:30lead right now, as someone conditioned
47:32and programmed, only serves to make you
47:34realize you don't need it, that's it.
47:41And once you realize you don't need it,
47:43that’s when liberation comes. Because
47:46if you don't let go of what you're
47:48doing, you stay tied down. Everything
47:51only serves to help you realize you
47:53don't need it because everything is
47:55already inside you. So everything
47:57outside only serves to help me realize
47:59I don't need it. What I am
48:03understanding is that
48:04Sure, what I am understanding is, yes,
48:07of course. If we take this as a
48:12computer game, the little character in
48:14the
48:17game doesn't need, like Mario Bros,
48:22Bros doesn't need to play the game. In
48:26itself, there is a game which is like a
48:28distraction, right? A distraction for
48:32the mind, a use of "I'm going to be
48:34smarter than the game," but in reality,
48:36you don't need to play the game, except
48:38that there is a time limit, right? If
48:41you don't pass the level, then the game
48:43is over, right? And hell, we are
48:45something similar. The time to play the
48:48game runs out; you do what you want
48:49with that game, right? Something like
48:51that would be it. In the yogic
48:56tradition, we say that if you don't do
48:59anything, matter traps you or the ego
49:01traps you more and more in life.
49:05the other way around. Sure, I mean, if
49:08you don't do something to,
49:10I mean, you mean if you don't work on
49:12yourself. Exactly. If you don't
49:16reconnect, if you don't breathe,
49:18meditate, and let's say you maintain
49:24your state of connection and
49:25consciousness, material life tends to
49:27make you lose that center. And by that,
49:34let's say, doing those techniques that
49:36reconnect you, makes it easier for you
49:42to be with your family in consciousness
49:44. You can be, not just while you do the
49:49technique, which would be like half an
49:51hour, an hour, an hour and a half a day
49:53, but that you expand your
49:54consciousness to when you work, to when
49:57you can sustain it. I mean, your your
50:02work is an expression of your
50:03consciousness. Being with the kids
50:06playing is an expression of your
50:07consciousness. Going grocery shopping
50:10is an expression of your consciousness.
50:12So, you are 24 hours a day in
50:14consciousness, in connection and in and
50:17in and in a state that facilitates for
50:22you that harmony with with existence.
50:31Right, the thing is the word, from what
50:33I understand Marcos is saying, is that
50:35the word desire is usually restricted
50:37to the rules you have conceived and not
50:39those you came here to do, right? It's
50:46clear, the line is very thin, a lot. I
50:49I am stuck on this mind reading thing.
50:51You told me it's very easy. What do you
50:55mean reading the mind is very easy?
50:56Artificial intelligence, well,
50:58artificial intelligence already does it
51:01, your phone does
51:04and it already exists, well, it's
51:06through your physiology, but also
51:08through the database, since one has
51:10more information, well, artificial
51:12intelligence knows you better than you
51:14know yourself. So, when I know, I know
51:18exactly through any expression, it
51:20already knows exactly what you are
51:22thinking. So, you express through
51:28frequency, speaking scientifically
51:30through your thought you emit a certain
51:32frequency and that someone if you have
51:35a receiver that can read it and it can
51:37even be a a physical body, a human,
51:39then it can read the frequency, you see
51:41? There are machines that can read, so
51:47also you if you bond with the other you
51:49can read autom couples. So, if they
51:55form a very strong bond, you know, they
51:58know, you can see how they think almost
52:00the same things. So, that is it, that
52:03bond through frequency. You perceive
52:05exactly what the other eh is doing or
52:07you do at the same time the same thing
52:09as the other. It's a synchronicity that
52:14you can really see at a certain moment
52:16in your life, and one can link it
52:18directly, but nowadays there are
52:19machines that can read it. So, for me,
52:26that is nothing new or extraordinary;
52:29rather, it just exists. That's clear.
52:34The great dilemma I see is that we get
52:38very confused by that. I don't care
52:40what the other person thinks, I don't
52:42have to know. I have to take care of my
52:45own mess. Uh, the other person's is
52:48theirs. So, while I'm dealing with the
52:50other, I'm not dealing with myself. So,
52:54we both end up really confused and we
52:56don't help each other, but rather keep
52:59ourselves in confusion. That's why
53:04another aspect I'm always observing is
53:06consciousness. Well, you can see that
53:09consciousness is within you because
53:11without consciousness nothing will
53:12manifest in this illusion. It is
53:14currently scientifically proven. You
53:16need consciousness. So consciousness is
53:19already within you. So it's not that I
53:24have to reach more consciousness, but
53:26rather understand what takes away the
53:27consciousness that is already within me
53:29. A baby has consciousness, and later
53:33the adult doesn't. So, what happened
53:35from the child to the adult? That is
53:38the ego character. So, it's not that I
53:42expand into something, but that I
53:44remove the layer of what I think I am
53:46or what I believe I am. Because that
53:50layer slows down the fullness of
53:51consciousness, because consciousness
53:53has access to the database and will
53:55manifest fullness and perfection here.
54:00Well, through the body you can see that
54:02it manifests perfection and then it
54:04will manifest other things in
54:06perfection because it knows what is
54:07best for it, but also for humanity. The
54:12being will always think of humanity, it
54:15won't think of itself because it knows
54:17that humanity is part of me, so I will
54:19think of them. That is a much more
54:22conscious coexistence, right? Full
54:24consciousness. Uh, but the ego is very
54:27deeply involved. So, the great dilemma
54:31I am observing is when I have the idea
54:33that I have to expand my consciousness.
54:37I acknowledge that I am not conscious.
54:39That means that I am not consciousness.
54:43You already are. And that is the
54:45stumbling block. If you let go,
54:49surrender, and do nothing, your
54:51consciousness manifests fully. That's
54:54it. And done. And you don't have to
54:57Well, what I really observe is that you
55:02are in full consciousness if you had
55:04certain experiences, and I don't know
55:06what other experiences my being has to
55:08have, I shouldn't get involved. I must
55:11leave that in the hands of the being.
55:14Maybe my being wants to be free, wants
55:16to get out of the matrix because the
55:18matrix is like a loop, they keep you
55:20trapped there. I mean, many think, well
55:23, I ask myself questions because many
55:25things aren't clear to me. They always
55:28think, well, with death, eh, I'll be
55:31free. That would be fabulous. So, when
55:33I know and have lived here, why would I
55:35want to return if I only live 4 years?
55:40Because for the first 4 years you live
55:42in ego, and you don't need the ego. The
55:46ego is formed externally so that you
55:48later play the role of the soul's
55:49jailer, and you make yourself ignorant.
55:55No being is ever going to do something
55:57bad. The being knows that the other is
56:00me. So it will never do something
56:02violent, aggressive, or evil. That
56:05doesn't exist in the being. That only
56:09originates in the ego personalities. So
56:12, if all humans lived in their being,
56:16we would be in paradise, which is what
56:18is truly intended. So, there we go
56:20again, returning. But well, here we go.
56:24But well, in the end, it's not about
56:26having so many experiences we think we
56:29need to have to free ourselves and
56:31expand. It's just understanding when I
56:36got confused and what I was confused
56:38about, why I'm believing in something,
56:41why I'm still an addict, why I have
56:43that eating habit, what is happening to
56:45me. I have to observe that, and that is
56:49meditation. And when I discover that, I
56:52will quickly let go of everything, and
56:54in that moment, I am free. But I don't
56:57necessarily need a technique. Certain
57:02techniques take you to a certain level,
57:04but they don't free you because a
57:05technique forces you to apply it and
57:07ties you down. Liberation involves
57:11doing nothing, because when I have to
57:13do something, I have to do it like a
57:15routine. It's like eating. You think
57:18you have to eat and you believe you
57:20need to, so you need your food and
57:22think you have to do it. But that
57:26eating routine forms a dependency, not
57:28freedom. So, you have to free yourself
57:32from all of that. And there are certain
57:34techniques that can take you to a level
57:36to realize. Oh, now I understand that's
57:38not it. So, done. But when I use the
57:42ego, I am not going to free the ego.
57:45That's obvious.
57:46So this path of technique, liberation,
57:52and renunciation is to stop eating,
57:54it's to stop
57:57it means where does it begin?
58:00Well,
58:00or how is it? Yes, for everything, for
58:03everything. What do you mean by for
58:05everything, or
58:06for all the
58:09leaving work, food, home,
58:14your search for love, everything,
58:15everything.
58:16love, everything.
58:17And where does one start? Well, really,
58:21really, uh, for you, there are two, two
58:23ways, like Jesus really said, which
58:26comes to mind right now, we should be
58:28like children so we can truly return to
58:31paradise, as they say. So, being like a
58:37child is that a child doesn't think
58:39about tomorrow, knows no fear, a blank
58:41slate, let's say, unprogrammed, a child
58:44completely unaware of danger. Each game
58:48is another adventure. So that is how we
58:51should play, explore. And the other
58:56aspect that, that he always told us, if
58:58you want liberation, leave everything
59:00behind and follow me. It means you have
59:05to let go of all your belongings, let
59:07them go, all your family attachments.
59:11You have to let go of all that to truly
59:13follow a path of freedom. Because if
59:16attachments are attachments to illusion
59:18, if you are attached to the illusion,
59:20how are you going to be free? Please,
59:24let's not play the role of the
59:25ridiculous. Uh, if I have an attachment
59:29, what I am attached to sticks to me,
59:31holds me back obviously, and there is
59:33no freedom. So, freedom also means that
59:37I must let go of all my ideas, of
59:39everything. But there is a beautiful
59:41word from Buddha,
59:42letting go, letting go of purposes.
59:46Well, I have to truly let go of
59:48everything, belongings, everything, all
59:51my beliefs, all religions, and in the
59:53end, I also have to let go of every
59:55idea I have about myself. And for many,
1:00:02that is a journey, but the moment I
1:00:04realize what is happening, what I am
1:00:06doing, I can do it from one moment to
1:00:08the next. And the funny thing is when
1:00:14enlightenment truly came to Buddha, the
1:00:16moment he did nothing, because before
1:00:18he did all the foolish things he was
1:00:20told, and in the end, he said: "No, I'm
1:00:23not going to do anything, I'm just
1:00:24going to observe things." And at that
1:00:27moment, he realized that everything is
1:00:30a tangle, everything is a distraction,
1:00:32and that is when you truly become free.
1:00:34To be free is when you have no
1:00:36attachment to anything, nothing at all.
1:00:41It's that looking at the life of Jesus,
1:00:43um he was full of purpose. He conveyed
1:01:00a transformative message for life on
1:01:03earth: of love, the kind Marcus speaks
1:01:06of, of sacrifice, uh, for the community
1:01:08, for service to all, and that, um,
1:01:11worthy of a, I mean, a paradigm of, of
1:01:25living based on the, on the liberation
1:01:27of the heart, based on love, on
1:01:29releasing the chains of slavery, and so
1:01:32on. and it was precisely crafted so
1:01:45that it would be a symbol and then,
1:01:53through his disciples, expand. I mean,
1:01:58he had a tremendous capacity to create
1:02:01a masterpiece of life. with
1:02:10extraordinary action, with an
1:02:12extraordinary transmission of
1:02:13consciousness, with an impressive
1:02:15paradigm of a teacher of doing, of
1:02:17doing
1:02:22meaning of being a human.
1:02:24Uh,
1:02:25to be a human means
1:02:27to unite being and doing and
1:02:29ah, being and doing. Right, right.
1:02:33It's, I mean, it's a masterpiece that
1:02:35today, how many churches are there? We
1:02:38could talk about the church today, but
1:02:40how many people have been inspired by
1:02:42this masterpiece and
1:02:46that it was distorted, right? But you
1:02:48mean the foundations.
1:02:51Right, the essence, and how he made it
1:02:53a masterpiece of life, of being and
1:02:55doing in contribution. The other part
1:03:01of Buddha is how Buddha, who is the
1:03:06example of experimenting with excesses
1:03:09on one side and then on the other,
1:03:11asceticism, going to the extremes. But
1:03:14for what? To find the middle path.
1:03:18Finding the middle path of harmony and
1:03:20balance with yourself and with others.
1:03:22I mean, he tried everything, he
1:03:24deprived himself of everything
1:03:25and said, "Okay, the point that I can
1:03:27hold on to here." That's where I create
1:03:29the, right, the
1:03:30Yes, that's what's beautiful, but
1:03:32everything to realize you don't need
1:03:34anything. That is the, that is the key.
1:03:36That's why I told everyone, do what you
1:03:38want to do, but in the end, you'll
1:03:40realize that you don't need to do it
1:03:42because everything is inside. While I
1:03:44busy myself outside, I will realize
1:03:46that outside is the illusion. So I'm
1:03:49going to run into a limit with any
1:03:51technique. It's, it's not going to get
1:03:55very, very far because that only ties
1:03:57me down when I am with myself. And
1:04:02reaching that is, I know for many very
1:04:04complex because we are so much into the
1:04:06doing of a technique or practice or
1:04:08whatever, we have to do, but you don't
1:04:11have to do anything. A child, you are
1:04:16born as a child, you don't have to be
1:04:18born a child. Uh, meaning or learn to
1:04:22be a child. It's that it's already in
1:04:24you, it's already there. And that is it
1:04:27, playing, exploring. You learn, for
1:04:30example, to walk, to talk without an
1:04:32ego character, everything is already
1:04:34there. That is that the being plays
1:04:37here, but in the end, they stop you
1:04:39from playing. That is the, the dilemma.
1:04:42You as an ego cannot play. The illusion
1:04:44cannot play. The illusion executes what
1:04:47it believes it has to play, and in that
1:04:49moment, it is no longer playing. The
1:04:52being has to play, not the idea that
1:04:55believes it is the body with foreign
1:04:57ideas; that is the game. No, that is
1:05:00the confusion. The game is when you
1:05:03play, when there is no purpose to the
1:05:05game. When there is a purpose to the
1:05:07game, you are no longer playing.
1:05:11Because I am talking about the ego. The
1:05:14being obviously has an intention in the
1:05:16game, or whatever it wants to do. And
1:05:21there is an intention, but for us, in
1:05:23order not to get involved in the
1:05:25perfect intention, we as ego-characters
1:05:27have to learn not to do anything.
1:05:33What is your purpose then, Marcus? Ah,
1:05:36I have no idea.
1:05:38I have no idea. That is the beauty of
1:05:42it, because I don't have—the problem
1:05:44is when I start thinking, I am back in
1:05:46the ego-character again. So, what do I
1:05:49want to know and do here? Uh, I get
1:05:53into it, I get involved again
1:05:55unconsciously, I say, "No, I don't know
1:05:57it.""And the beauty is, I don't want to
1:06:00know it either." I don't want to know
1:06:03because I have seen the perfection that
1:06:05manifests. So, and to move on, I have
1:06:07no idea. Tomorrow is another day, we'll
1:06:10see what happens.
1:06:11I was thinking about this, I understand
1:06:16detachment up to a certain point, even
1:06:24with the body, but you were telling me
1:06:26you do these fasts that, if I'm
1:06:28correctly informed, are around 8 days,
1:06:30right? More or less, in general. Yes.
1:06:37And you were telling me that 4 days are
1:06:39nothing, total starvation without
1:06:41liquids. Well, today—today, for
1:06:43example, we are going to start; it's
1:06:46Monday. So today they will drink—well
1:06:48, in half an hour they will have their
1:06:50last
1:06:52cup of herbal tea.
1:06:54Wow.
1:06:55And until Friday, until Friday, that's
1:06:57four days. Some want to experiment more
1:06:59, they have done it before. So to truly
1:07:03discover, I don't need liquid, I don't
1:07:05need that because now they drink—
1:07:10they do accumulation.
1:07:13No, no, that is the opposite. You make
1:07:15the move worse. Observe your body
1:07:18instead. Uh, if I really need liquid,
1:07:22why do I go to the bathroom? Everything
1:07:26I take to the bathroom are things that
1:07:28are of no use to me. So, what is in
1:07:30your body? You put something in and you
1:07:32take it out. You put it in and you take
1:07:33it out. So, there is no nutrition,
1:07:35something your body absorbs to live. No
1:07:38, that doesn't exist. Your body
1:07:40actually functions based on stimulation
1:07:42. So, our body is like a water mill.
1:07:46You pour water and start turning that
1:07:48wheel. So, your body got used to that
1:07:52stimulation, well, like an alcoholic
1:07:54gets used to alcohol, or someone who
1:07:56smokes; that is a drug and your body
1:07:59got used to that stimulation. And when
1:08:03the withdrawal symptom phase arrives,
1:08:05which you call hunger, you crave more
1:08:07stimulation, and mostly you just want
1:08:09stimulation. The more anxiety you have,
1:08:12the more you are going to eat. So it is
1:08:14very easy to observe. Your body won't
1:08:18ask for it, well right now, after those
1:08:217 or 8 days, nobody wants to eat,
1:08:23nobody has a feeling of hunger, nobody.
1:08:30So food is the easiest; liquids are a
1:08:33bit harder because they cause dry mouth
1:08:35and all that, and you have to adapt
1:08:37again to absorbing liquids from the
1:08:39environment that you need. Your body
1:08:45needs a certain moment of adaptation,
1:08:47but your body functions perfectly.
1:08:52That's why I am always observing; it
1:08:54would be fatal if we were born here and
1:08:56born into a dependency. That's not it,
1:09:01we weren't born here with an obligation
1:09:03, and that is not the game. It can't be
1:09:06. It can't be that I arrive here with
1:09:10an obligation; then I am not playing.
1:09:14And just with that. And when you
1:09:18observe children later, and you observe
1:09:20how you go from being a baby to eating
1:09:22a paella, if you give a baby a paella,
1:09:24you'll kill them right now. So their
1:09:29body didn't adapt to the toxin. So you
1:09:33can see that eating that is not a
1:09:35natural act for us. If we don't learn
1:09:45that, we slowly adapt to the toxins in
1:09:47food, and adapting means becoming
1:09:49resistant, immune to food; but what is
1:09:51the price you pay to be immune or
1:09:53resistant to food? It is vitality.
1:10:01Because who is the most vital? It's the
1:10:03children. And what happens later, as
1:10:06you become more and more adapted to
1:10:08food, the less vitality you have. And
1:10:11well, that is not something I just say,
1:10:13but science already knows it.
1:10:17Intermittent fasting is a first step to
1:10:19rejuvenating yourself, detoxifying, and
1:10:22you also easily heal yourself of many
1:10:24illnesses just with food. So, that is
1:10:27nothing new, it is already known. But
1:10:31fundamentally, as I tried to explain,
1:10:34it is a drug, and you mainly use the
1:10:36drug to calm your anxiety. So, the most
1:10:39important point is, why do I have
1:10:41anxiety? And I have anxiety because I
1:10:43live a life that is not mine. Your life
1:10:46belongs only to your being, not to the
1:10:48ego personality. And you, as an ego
1:10:51personality, do things that others say
1:10:53you have to do. And you don't feel that
1:10:57. You want to be a child. You see how
1:11:00you were a child, wanting to do all
1:11:02these things, but they always say, "No,
1:11:04no, you have to dress like this, you
1:11:06have to sit like this, you have to eat.
1:11:08""Everything must be just so." And then
1:11:14the indoctrination system, the school,
1:11:16it finishes the job, and afterwards
1:11:18you're just a consumer slave,
1:11:20desperately asking for your drug.
1:11:27This reminds me of the hero experience.
1:11:34"I can handle anything and I need
1:11:36nothing."
1:11:37What hero? Like in a movie? This
1:11:40heroism.
1:11:41Ah, ah, okay, okay. You mean the "I can
1:11:44" concept. Yes. Ah, okay, okay.
1:11:47Because to go days without eating.
1:11:49Of course, I am
1:11:51I, I study the body a lot. Of course.
1:11:55Eh, I remember when Wim Hof first
1:11:57started, for example, and he said, "I
1:11:59do this.""And science—call it science
1:12:03—doctors, nutritionists, all those
1:12:06people behind it, said:' No way, I do
1:12:09this, no way, biologically it's
1:12:11impossible. We have papers here,
1:12:15studies there, this and that. The body
1:12:19can't live more than so long, right? '"
1:12:22And he said, "Well no, I do this, and
1:12:25I'll prove it to you whenever you want.
1:12:27""And then that thing happened,
1:12:30swimming under the ice, which is what
1:12:32made him most famous." He went to, I
1:12:35don't know where, because he already
1:12:37lives in a very cold place. He went to
1:12:40some lake, cut a hole, and said, "I'm
1:12:42going to swim from here to the other
1:12:44side.""And everyone was saying,' Medic,
1:12:46ambulance, this guy is going to die
1:12:49right now. 'And he went under, and it
1:12:51turns out he got lost down there
1:12:53because his corneas froze and he
1:12:55couldn't find his way back, he couldn't
1:12:58see, but he reached the other side, got
1:13:00out on the other side, frozen corneas,
1:13:02okay?" And he got out of the water, and
1:13:06the doctors were saying that what he
1:13:08just did was impossible, staying under
1:13:10the ice for a minute, and they took his
1:13:12temperature and it was 36 degrees. And
1:13:17he says, "I told you, I do this.""And
1:13:20then we started analyzing Wim Hof,
1:13:22saying,' Well, he was a rare case. '""
1:13:24Then they started analyzing him
1:13:26everywhere, and he says,' No, no,
1:13:28anyone can learn it. '""And then this
1:13:30philosophy came out, right? He
1:13:33popularized the cold water thing and
1:13:35all that, but basically it was,' Hey, I
1:13:38do this, anyone can do it. '" This is
1:13:41the same as when I broke my spine. I
1:13:43healed it, so anyone can do it. He says
1:13:45, "No, you're one of those cases that
1:13:47not just anyone can do." The other
1:13:49thing is consistency to do it. And one
1:13:51of them is, for example, food. He is
1:13:56saying that food is the first, as I
1:13:58understand it, the first detachment,
1:14:00because not speaking, based on what I
1:14:02understood at your retreats, is more
1:14:05complex than not eating. And I find
1:14:09that very curious. And I'm not even
1:14:11talking about not drinking. If you look
1:14:14at a normal paper now, it tells you a
1:14:16normal average person can live for
1:14:18three to five days without drinking.
1:14:22The Guinness record is, I think, 10
1:14:24days, something like that, without
1:14:27drinking. And now science has changed
1:14:31it more to, well, a normal person
1:14:33cannot go without drinking for 7 days.
1:14:36I don't know, I think they are putting
1:14:38a deadline on it to tell you, "Look, if
1:14:40you do it in 7 days, you're going to
1:14:42kick the bucket." Because this reminds
1:14:44me of that runner who, uh, they were
1:14:46telling him: "It's impossible for you
1:14:49to run more than, I don't remember what
1:14:51it was, in less than 10 minutes (I
1:14:53think it was 2 km, I don't remember how
1:14:56much, it was 20 km, I don't remember,
1:14:58okay, 2 miles) in less than such time."
1:15:01And he broke the barrier, and that same
1:15:03year 12 runners broke the barrier, and
1:15:05it had been decades without it being
1:15:07broken. Of course, because the belief
1:15:09has already set in that it's only up to
1:15:12here and it will be like this until you
1:15:14say, well no, it's not here. And I
1:15:16think if nobody has died at your
1:15:18retreat, it's possible for any normal
1:15:20person to go 4 days without drinking
1:15:22water. Uh, audience, I am not
1:15:24recommending anything to you. Uh, I
1:15:26mean,
1:15:29but everyone can, uh, well, I try to
1:15:32explain that it's a drug and that one
1:15:34can observe it or not. So, it's not
1:15:39that's how it is, but it's not that I
1:15:41use a technique to learn something, an
1:15:46addiction, you don't break free from an
1:15:48addiction through technique. If you
1:15:51break free from an addiction through
1:15:53technique, then all addicts should be
1:15:54easily freed quite quickly, right?
1:15:58Addiction is emotional and that has to
1:16:00be understood while you haven't
1:16:02resolved your own inner story. So,
1:16:05anxiety is born, that's why they want
1:16:07to talk and act. So, when anxiety
1:16:11awakens, they want to calm it down. So
1:16:14they want to swap because there's no
1:16:16food and no other distractions, so they
1:16:18start talking to calm the anxiety. So
1:16:20there you can see it clearly.
1:16:22Ah, sure.
1:16:24We're talking about an addiction right
1:16:26now, not learning, but you learned to
1:16:28eat, so it's not a matter of learning
1:16:30not to eat. The body doesn't need food
1:16:34because the body is constantly in
1:16:36defense of food because to survive you
1:16:38need antibodies. So, in order for you
1:16:43to be able to eat, you need antibodies.
1:16:46If your body is in defense, antibodies
1:16:48are defense. So, everything you are
1:16:50putting into your body, your body says,
1:16:52"Hey, hey." So, the moment you stop the
1:16:55intoxication, your body is happy, it
1:16:57heals itself. And
1:17:00but up to a point, I understand, right?
1:17:02Because sure, I don't know, muscle
1:17:04needs matter
1:17:05or bone, it needs matter. I know that
1:17:08people haven't understood. This is an
1:17:12illusion, it's a hologram. So I with my
1:17:16consciousness,
1:17:17how does it maintain the body? I'm
1:17:19stuck there. Look, you have that's very
1:17:23easy. Observe who keeps it alive. Your
1:17:27body is your consciousness and science
1:17:30knows, energy is information. So your
1:17:33consciousness takes the information and
1:17:35manifests the energy. You have to see
1:17:38you came from a stem cell, but not from
1:17:40the mother, rather you manifested, you
1:17:43as consciousness manifested the stem
1:17:44cell and through the knowledge of
1:17:46self-division you formed what you are
1:17:48seeing right now. Simple. You are a
1:17:52manifestation, you remove what is
1:17:54manifesting, meaning the consciousness,
1:17:57your body will rot. So you can put
1:18:00proteins, vitamins, whatever into your
1:18:02body, it will rot because what keeps it
1:18:05alive is the consciousness. But
1:18:09obviously in between you have the big
1:18:12problem, which is your thinking, it's
1:18:14your mind, and in your mind, they have
1:18:16injected you with pure nonsense,
1:18:18meaning nutrition. The food pyramid,
1:18:23all that, it's technically already
1:18:24known that it's nonsense, but obviously
1:18:27they keep you there because they want
1:18:29to keep you as a consumer slave. A
1:18:31consumer slave, the system controls
1:18:34that much easier. That's how it works.
1:18:38So, it's not that you have to learn a
1:18:40technique, you have to understand your
1:18:42addiction, that's another thing.
1:18:47Let's see, sure, let's say that
1:18:53creation makes it easy for you to have
1:18:55a not-so-healthy diet. Nowadays, in in
1:19:03a life, yes, modern life. the times
1:19:07make it easier not to lead a life
1:19:10for us to eat poorly.
1:19:11Yes.
1:19:13And there is a part of the industry
1:19:15that, let's say, promotes that because
1:19:17it generates more income,
1:19:19more purposes, more
1:19:21and
1:19:21more consumerism,
1:19:22profits. Yes.
1:19:24Yes.
1:19:25Right. Then there are healthier eating
1:19:29patterns.
1:19:31Of course,
1:19:34more balanced, more, and it seems to
1:19:37create a more healthy effect on people
1:19:42when they start to master it, right?
1:19:45knowing awareness, mastering
1:19:52and then there are patterns for other
1:19:54purposes, at some point a purification,
1:19:56a connecting with the being in which
1:19:58certain asceticisms are practiced to
1:20:06experience or to make room for other
1:20:11more connected experiences. Almost, but
1:20:15the question is, but for a balanced
1:20:18life finding that way of eating that
1:20:28gives you balance and harmony with your
1:20:30life. For each person at each moment,
1:20:33there is a a
1:20:37the little stick pointing down,
1:20:38a Of course, a child's diet is not the
1:20:40same as the diet of a that tactile. Yes
1:20:47, no, it is not the same, a child's
1:20:50diet is not the same as a breastfeeding
1:20:52mother's diet. It is not the same diet
1:20:55for an for an elderly person. The diet
1:20:58is not the same. But just as for us,
1:21:01for example, seeing the beauty and
1:21:03perfection of life is not the same.
1:21:10When we are born and are small, school
1:21:13begins, education, that develops
1:21:15knowledge, but then you go and start
1:21:17having loving relationships and perhaps
1:21:19create a family, and that greatly
1:21:21develops the capacity to love and give
1:21:23oneself to others. you start work and
1:21:31develop the capacity to serve.
1:21:34In other words, everything you learn
1:21:37develops a capacity of, and in maturity
1:21:39, as it is, it expresses the capacity
1:21:44for observing life. So, in each stage,
1:21:48we have four main capacities. Capacity
1:21:51for serving, for action, the capacity
1:21:56to love, the capacity for knowledge,
1:21:58and presence. And you develop that at
1:22:02each stage of life. I mean, let's say,
1:22:07for people who want to experience
1:22:09observation, man, Marcus is being a
1:22:11teacher for that,
1:22:17but although eh
1:22:18Yes, yes, but they also have to
1:22:20understand one thing very very Yes,
1:22:24they are, well, a point,
1:22:26right? has to, he dropped the
1:22:30Well, a point that I am observing in
1:22:32observation.
1:22:34Ah, look how good.
1:22:36We we are born We are born being
1:22:44observers, because you learn to speak
1:22:46and walk not with your ego persona
1:22:48through an external education, but
1:22:49through your observation. And that is
1:22:55very beautiful. Eh, so you don't have
1:22:59to learn to be an observer, they take
1:23:01that whole dynamic away from you. Well,
1:23:06there we can really see where the whole
1:23:08problem is born, the problem that
1:23:10humanity is living today. Because when
1:23:19we observe well, eh, the child is born
1:23:22perfect, they contain perfect knowledge
1:23:24when they are next to a mom who isn't
1:23:26attached, a mom who isn't a "mom,"
1:23:28meaning a mom who is detached, not
1:23:31neglectful, but detached. And before
1:23:36that, procreation must begin. So, while
1:23:40procreation is based on human confusion
1:23:42, right now they will always transmit
1:23:45the same mess to the next generation.
1:23:48One addict will form another addict,
1:23:50another ego will form another ego. And
1:23:53if that's the case, one person who is
1:23:55tangled up will form another person who
1:23:57is tangled up. So that is where the
1:24:00whole problem of humanity must begin.
1:24:05First of all, I shouldn't really have
1:24:07—sexuality today is completely
1:24:09tangled up. So procreation should only
1:24:14exist between two beings, not two egos.
1:24:19So, as long as it's in egos, there is
1:24:21no change in humanity. And everyone
1:24:24thinks they are evolving while doing
1:24:25foolish things. No,
1:24:28procreation,
1:24:29only beings should procreate, to then
1:24:31provide a platform for another being
1:24:33and let that being do what they want.
1:24:36But, what happens today? Well, two egos
1:24:41form another ego and they form or
1:24:43program something there, nutrition,
1:24:45food, eh, how you dress, culture,
1:24:47everything you currently believe about
1:24:50yourself is something external and
1:24:52doesn't come from the heart. So, the
1:24:57being is love. It won't go looking for
1:25:01love, but they teach you to look for
1:25:03love. You, for example, you look for
1:25:06love right now in your partner, in
1:25:08everything, you look for love and it is
1:25:10a giant confusion. So, when I look for
1:25:13love, I cannot give love. The ego
1:25:17cannot give love. The ego gives what it
1:25:21learned, because the ego is a
1:25:23construction of external learning. So,
1:25:27you apply a love that you learned. That
1:25:30is a conditional love. So, you will
1:25:32only love your children because they
1:25:34are "mine." The rest of the children
1:25:36that exist in the world, I couldn't
1:25:38care less. I don't care. And that is
1:25:41conditional. That is a conditional love
1:25:43. You love your partner, but not the
1:25:45other person's partner. Yes, because I
1:25:47expect something from them. But the
1:25:50couple are two beggars, two beggars for
1:25:52love. One seeks love in another. Truly
1:25:55a giant confusion. And that is why the
1:25:58root of the whole problem is that we
1:26:00think we are not love, that we seek
1:26:02love. And that is why we should be with
1:26:06parents who know they are love and do
1:26:08not seek love. In that way, I don't
1:26:12learn love or learn to seek love, but
1:26:14rather I am already in love. I don't
1:26:17learn to be a glutton, no. Let yourself
1:26:20do what you want, do what makes you
1:26:22free. But they are obviously
1:26:25conditioned by their parents. So you
1:26:29live a life just like your parents, and
1:26:31those before them, and they are
1:26:32conditioned by what society says or
1:26:34what others have told them, as others
1:26:36do. So, you are not free and you are
1:26:40not living. You live a life as others
1:26:43want you to live, and you are happy
1:26:49because you think that is living, but
1:26:51you need a distraction, right? It is
1:26:54funny. But the robot, well, you have to
1:26:57see the best one. Ah, well, here is a
1:27:00nice saying. The best slave is the one
1:27:03who believes they are free. And here,
1:27:06today, I would transform it: the best
1:27:11the best slave or best robot is the one
1:27:13who believes they are human. If you
1:27:17believe you are human, you have already
1:27:19lost. You are a being that uses a human
1:27:23body. They are two different things. As
1:27:26I initially said, the moment I believe
1:27:28I am human, who is believing? That is
1:27:32the ego character, what I was
1:27:34programmed to be. And that is where the
1:27:36great confusion comes from in
1:27:38everything, in absolutely everything.
1:27:40And I am not looking for anyone; each
1:27:42person should do it themselves, and I
1:27:44only see where we have to go, where
1:27:46humanity has to go again. And that is
1:27:49why I am currently starting that thing
1:27:51about tribes as well. In a tribe, there
1:27:55is no money, no ownership, no ranks;
1:27:57they are just people who have worked on
1:28:00their ego, who enter a tribe as just
1:28:06beings, only a being can have a human
1:28:11experience. An ego cannot have a human
1:28:14experience. A being is...an ego is
1:28:16something programmed, it is a robot. So
1:28:18, the only experience that can be had
1:28:20is to be, and what one wants to do can
1:28:22only be done in a community when there
1:28:24is no attachment to the illusion. Then,
1:28:28in that moment, the being plays in
1:28:30coexisting and at the same time has
1:28:32time to reflect on what sense life has.
1:28:37When I have dependencies, I cannot
1:28:39explore anything. If I have
1:28:42dependencies on food, I am tied to that
1:28:44. I have to do something to obtain it.
1:28:46And nowadays, right? You have to see,
1:28:49maybe not you, but the next generation
1:28:51is already being prepared for food
1:28:53coming out of a printer. So, uh,
1:28:57Oh, yes.
1:28:58So, what is the future? Where are they
1:29:00trying to take you? So, that is not
1:29:02something nutritional. Uh, to me food
1:29:06is only fruit. The rest isn't food, the
1:29:10rest is all artificial. What you have
1:29:13to see to grow rice, wheat, and all
1:29:15that, I have to grow it. And growing is
1:29:18not natural. Natural is when it grows
1:29:21all by itself. So, the moment humans
1:29:24get involved, it's no longer natural.
1:29:28And that's what living naturally as a
1:29:30child is like. We let children go and
1:29:32play
1:29:35actually, I'm here in the area in the
1:29:37south of Valencia, pure oranges,
1:29:40tangerines, it's full of everything.
1:29:43Oh, for sure.
1:29:46And well, nature depends on what you
1:29:47need and in the end you don't need
1:29:49anything and you only have a palate for
1:29:51play. Observe children, children put
1:29:56things in, spit them out, maybe others
1:29:58swallow them, but they also swallow
1:30:01toys. So, you have here a tool, a tool
1:30:05to explore, explore that illusion, but
1:30:08later we become addicted and worse,
1:30:10gluttonous. So, obviously there is less
1:30:16toxic food, but healthy, because
1:30:18everything you put into your body, your
1:30:21body desires, so everything you put in
1:30:23comes out; it’s not something your
1:30:25body wants. And nutrition cannot exist.
1:30:29It cannot exist. Ah, you cannot absorb
1:30:33something, or what is it called,
1:30:35assimilate something you aren't made of
1:30:37. And what are you made of? It's
1:30:41nitrogen, hydrogen, and oxygen and some
1:30:44uh carbon molecules. That is what you
1:30:47are made of. And where am I going to
1:30:49find that? In the air. And the only
1:30:52thing you have to do is breathe. And
1:30:55breathing you do outside of your will,
1:30:57meaning outside of your ego. So, you
1:30:59breathe even when you sleep. So that is
1:31:02the only natural thing for me that I
1:31:04can observe. Everything else is learned
1:31:08and performing an action, and an action
1:31:11depending on the illusion, and freedom
1:31:13will not come from there, and that is
1:31:15why we must free ourselves. And a big
1:31:19step is obviously food. I am not saying
1:31:23stop eating, I invite you to understand
1:31:25your addiction, understand why I have
1:31:27those habits. And many who leave the
1:31:32retreat, who get involved in resolving
1:31:34them, eat once a day and eat very
1:31:36little and mainly only fruit, and they
1:31:38are in a perfect state, everything is
1:31:40perfect. So, fat and thin is not
1:31:45because of food, it can be seen easily.
1:31:48Fat or thin, you are what you think
1:31:50food represents for you. And if I'm
1:31:55lying, if I believe in nutrition, I'll
1:31:57keep needing food because what I
1:31:59believe, I manifest. You have the
1:32:04potential to manifest, but you mostly
1:32:07manifest unconsciously. If you let
1:32:09yourself manifest through your being,
1:32:11you will never lack anything. Never
1:32:13anything, because it knows what is best
1:32:15for you. That is why I know that
1:32:20everyone can do what they want, live
1:32:22what they think they are living, but in
1:32:25reality, in the end, perhaps in this
1:32:27life, if you don't need another, you
1:32:29realize: this isn't something I can do;
1:32:31I have to do it because freedom is here
1:32:33, it is not on another level or
1:32:35something else. So many are confused
1:32:40because I need the body to vibrate
1:32:42differently, and from there, vibrate
1:32:45differently; I can see it when I
1:32:47vibrate low and high, it's a different
1:32:49perception, and if I raise that
1:32:51vibration but not through the ego, I
1:32:53free myself. Then I can enter and exit
1:32:56this video game however I please. That
1:32:59is another level. Those are my
1:33:04observations, but well, everyone wants
1:33:06to do something, but a technique, when
1:33:08I apply a technique, it will always
1:33:11keep me at a certain level; it won't
1:33:13elevate me further, because that
1:33:15technique keeps me with my ego, as I
1:33:17need an ego to apply a technique. If I
1:33:20don't believe in the technique, I won't
1:33:22apply it. I have to believe in the
1:33:24technique, or someone had to convince
1:33:26me of it. And how am I going to let
1:33:28someone convince me to believe in
1:33:29something? Because I don't believe in
1:33:31myself. If I believe in myself, I don't
1:33:34need a technique. Done. Sorry for
1:33:40shaking you all so hard, but well,
1:33:42those are my observations, and I invite
1:33:45people to observe. Don't believe me,
1:33:47please. Don't believe me, don't go back
1:33:49to believing in that again. Instead,
1:33:51observe, learn to observe. It is very
1:33:54important because we get tangled up so
1:33:56easily, and the system is wise because
1:33:58it knows very well how we get tangled.
1:34:01You can always be vigilant about what
1:34:02you are doing, what you are thinking,
1:34:04and what you are believing.
1:34:07Without a doubt, you facilitate
1:34:09observation and also discernment.
1:34:11Having one's own criteria.
1:34:13Sure.
1:34:13It makes me really
1:34:17discern
1:34:19what is being said,
1:34:21reflect
1:34:22on what comes out, what
1:34:24to understand. Sure. Uh, wow. And look,
1:34:29I had written down questions everywhere
1:34:31, uh, I mean, and we've ended up with
1:34:36something very interesting. What a
1:34:39shock, audience? I am clear that if you
1:34:43have stayed until here, you’ve been
1:34:45hit with a shock now, I mean, a huge
1:34:47shock. Uh, even, uh. When we were
1:34:55talking and you mentioned the book, the
1:34:57book is about him as a person, from
1:34:59what I understood, right? Uh, you as a
1:35:03person and your depersonalization. Well
1:35:06, it's not called that because
1:35:07psychologically, personalization is
1:35:10something else, but so you understand
1:35:12me, I mean, removing the person and
1:35:14being a human, logically, to what you
1:35:16were telling me, right? When a human
1:35:19being comes here, they have to learn
1:35:21everything. And it's curious that
1:35:25consciousness, when it integrates into
1:35:28the body—my deduction—consciousness
1:35:30, when it integrates into the body, has
1:35:32no damn clue what the body is. When I
1:35:39was visiting relatives at the end of
1:35:41the year, they had a kitten they had
1:35:43rescued, one that had been abandoned,
1:35:45very, very, very small, almost
1:35:47half-dead. Therefore, it hadn't even
1:35:53been nursed by its mother or anything.
1:35:55It was very small. Even two and a half
1:35:58months later, it was still small, so it
1:36:00had suffered from malnutrition, right?
1:36:04And I found it curious. It was very
1:36:06similar to my cat. I adopted my cat too
1:36:09, right? But very similar physically to
1:36:13my cat, yet it didn't behave like him
1:36:16at all, I mean, not at all. I don't
1:36:19know how that cat was genetically so
1:36:21smart. For sure, the mother's genetics
1:36:26must have been—I don't know how the
1:36:28hell it was so smart. At two and a half
1:36:32months, it would chase away all the
1:36:35other cats that were 8 years old, 6
1:36:37years old, big, 6 kg, and even dogs. It
1:36:41would steal food, hiding perfectly to
1:36:43steal the food. Look, I was, I was
1:36:46cutting chicken, okay? I was cutting
1:36:48chicken, cutting away, I look over and
1:36:51the cat already had a bite of the
1:36:53chicken, and besides, we were talking,
1:36:55a tiny little thing like that, I don't
1:36:57know where it got so much strength. And
1:36:59I'm like: "Drop the chicken, cat!", I'm
1:37:02saying: "But, where did this come from?
1:37:04". Because I give my cat raw food and
1:37:07he just goes off somewhere else. And
1:37:11that's a Savannah cat, a cat with
1:37:13African descent, I mean, he couldn't be
1:37:16any dumber, of of
1:37:18how much conditioning there is. Exactly
1:37:21. Genetic.
1:37:23Just look
1:37:24social,
1:37:24I mean, how it struggles with that, and
1:37:26the thing is that I was thinking about
1:37:28humans, for example, nobody taught this
1:37:30cat anything because it was surrounded
1:37:32by humans, yes, and other animals,
1:37:33right? But nobody has taught it
1:37:35anything. I mean, it has an instinct,
1:37:38whatever you want to call it, to be
1:37:40super smart. It knows how to steal food
1:37:44, it knows how to steal food from other
1:37:46animals, it knows how to scare off
1:37:47other animals, and it’s just a tiny
1:37:49little thing like that. It knows how to
1:37:51complain, it knows how to ask, it knows
1:37:53everything. I don't know what it
1:37:55learned from the, from the, from the
1:37:57copy, but you take a human baby, huh? I
1:38:03mean, you leave it alone for three days
1:38:06and it's dead, literally. I mean,
1:38:14without the mother the child doesn't do
1:38:16anything, and of course, if it doesn't
1:38:18learn to live within this body, the
1:38:20being won't be able to experience
1:38:22anything, because we need, as I
1:38:24understand it, I need this body to be
1:38:26in this prison, right? That's what the
1:38:33body is for. And humans are one of the
1:38:37few biological beings on the planet
1:38:39whose genetics don't do anything for
1:38:41survival. I mean, you take a baby and
1:38:45until it's at least a year old, it
1:38:47doesn't even know what food is.
1:38:51It's curious how there are things that
1:38:53flow naturally, right? Yes. They flow
1:38:57in a natural way in different beings,
1:39:03and but at the same time, as humans, we
1:39:05can also develop capabilities. You can,
1:39:09before anything you set your mind to,
1:39:12say, "How can I do it?" I mean, "Do I
1:39:14want to do it?""How can I do it?""And
1:39:18who is going to teach me how to do it?"
1:39:23Or where will the information be,
1:39:25whether you have a partner and how am I
1:39:27going to start a family, or if you have
1:39:29a business and how am I going to make
1:39:30this business work, or I want to get
1:39:32out of the matrix, how am I going to
1:39:34get out of the matrix? There is a
1:39:39person who is already going through it
1:39:41or is further along than you, or has
1:39:43already gone through that process and
1:39:44has the power to teach you, and there
1:39:46are things that you have naturally and
1:39:48you do them in
1:39:51a very natural way, right? That is the
1:39:54point of the beauty and perfection of
1:39:56life. Of course. And he mentioned that
1:40:00you can also listen to yourself and
1:40:02perhaps that knowledge you already have
1:40:04, right?
1:40:06For example,
1:40:07Ah, that's what I understood, right,
1:40:10Marcus? That sometimes
1:40:11Yes, yes, but you can see the most
1:40:14classic example is really Mozart, the
1:40:16musician. Mozart.
1:40:18Yes,
1:40:19yes. He knew how
1:40:22to play at 4 years old, you ask
1:40:24yourself how is that possible.
1:40:26He was barely moving around, but he was
1:40:28already playing the piano, he was
1:40:30already starting to compose. So it says
1:40:32, "Where does knowledge come from?
1:40:34Where from? How?" So there you can see
1:40:37that with their being, they accessed
1:40:39knowledge that has already occurred in
1:40:41the universe. You access the
1:40:43information and apply it. You don't
1:40:46have to learn in a complicated way
1:40:48again that fire, for example, is hot.
1:40:52If someone knows, I don't have to
1:40:53experiment and stick my hand in. Uh, if
1:40:57I already know it, then why put it in
1:40:59to burn myself, right? If the
1:41:02experience is already done, the
1:41:03experience doesn't have to be repeated.
1:41:06Well, that's a lot like the hundredth
1:41:08monkey. There are experiments about the
1:41:11hundredth monkey where they gave an
1:41:13exercise to a monkey until the seventh
1:41:15one learned it. Then, automatically,
1:41:19all the other monkeys of the same breed
1:41:21, even on other islands or farther away
1:41:24, knew how to do it. How, how do they?
1:41:27Because that is stored in a higher
1:41:29database. That is the universal mind.
1:41:33So there, well, animals still have that
1:41:36capacity. That is called instinct. For
1:41:39us, it would be intuition, something
1:41:41that is inside the being that knows
1:41:43what information to access. So, you
1:41:46don't have to repeat. That's why I see
1:41:49many things, right? We are really in a
1:41:52loop here, we made a mistake, we really
1:41:54got confused here, but right now it's
1:41:56time to change that. But they aren't
1:41:59letting us right now. Right now you see
1:42:01that everything is manipulated from the
1:42:03outside. So I see here I can't play
1:42:05freely. So if I can't play freely and I
1:42:09see that from the outside, why would I
1:42:11come here? It makes no sense at all. So
1:42:17we are here in a loop, a little bit
1:42:18trapped. So here there are, here there
1:42:22are many possibilities too. Yes, I was
1:42:26listening the other day to a podcast
1:42:28that you did that was very interesting,
1:42:31about a bodybuilder who was a
1:42:32vegetarian. I mean, uh, there were
1:42:39people who believed it was possible,
1:42:41who naturally knew it was possible, and
1:42:43they did it. You say, bodybuilders are
1:42:47all taking and such. Well, the simplest
1:42:52thing you can see is in an ox. It eats
1:42:55nothing but grass. Well,
1:42:57and it's a giant bull. Where, where
1:42:59does it get that from? Grass.
1:43:02They have different ways of processing
1:43:04through their four stomachs, right?
1:43:07That is the different way of
1:43:08manifesting. That is the point.
1:43:11Consciousness manifests. Consciousness
1:43:14manifests. Don't forget it, because you
1:43:16can't see the illusion, eh, you can't
1:43:18live. You can grab certain information
1:43:20and from that, you manifest something,
1:43:24eh, because you need information,
1:43:26information is physical, energy, so
1:43:28it's everything. But information mainly
1:43:32comes through your consciousness, with
1:43:34the database manifesting your body.
1:43:37That is simple. So, animals do not have
1:43:40an ego persona; they manifest that. As
1:43:43long as they don't have an ego that
1:43:45complicates life, or they are pets. The
1:43:47problem with pets is that they are near
1:43:49masters, and masters have an influence
1:43:51there and mess things up a bit. Just
1:43:55like parents mess up children, there
1:43:57the bond can be seen, because a child
1:44:00shouldn't get sick, and you see pets
1:44:02with diabetes. You say, well, since
1:44:06when does a lion have diabetes or
1:44:08depression? Please, cats exist. And
1:44:11where does it come from? Obviously, it
1:44:13doesn't come from their ego, but from
1:44:15the master. And it is the same with
1:44:17children. And there you can see the
1:44:19bond and understand certain aspects
1:44:21there. How strong is thinking, too? And
1:44:25when you are in an environment, those
1:44:27around perceive it and manifest it.
1:44:30They mainly manifest your negativity so
1:44:32that you also realize, "that is mine."
1:44:36But well, many parents know they have
1:44:38teachers in front of them, but also
1:44:40pets are my teachers, but they don't
1:44:45want to acknowledge it. You are a
1:44:48disciple in front of your teachers, but
1:44:50the disciple wants to brainwash the
1:44:52teacher, and then chaos comes again.
1:45:01Well, I have found the point of view
1:45:03you have taken in this episode more
1:45:05interesting than the one I had in mind
1:45:06for the episode. It has been excellent.
1:45:12Besides, as I tell you, the vision is
1:45:14shocking, but it is also nourishing for
1:45:20reflection. Exactly.
1:45:26This podcast, this episode is going to
1:45:28be very thought-provoking for the
1:45:30audience. It is the case that I am sure
1:45:36there will be all the comments: "This
1:45:38can't be,""this I don't know what,""I
1:45:40have tried this,""it can't be,""when my
1:45:42partner tries this, they don't love me,
1:45:44""that I don't love my partner,""you'll
1:45:46see when I tell my wife, all hell will
1:45:47break loose." And it's just great.
1:45:51It will shake things up, it will shake
1:45:52things up. It will shake things up, and
1:45:54I like that, it will stir you up inside
1:45:56.
1:45:57Well, that is also the intention of the
1:45:59book. I mean, I want to provoke you to
1:46:02question me, but immediately have you
1:46:04question yourself. That is the
1:46:08intention. That you start questioning
1:46:12yourself because we are so attached to
1:46:14our ideas, and even if someone says, "
1:46:16ooh, that's a crazy person," don't
1:46:18start with, "ooh, I'm questioning him,"
1:46:20but also observe my own beliefs to
1:46:22really no longer be tied down. When I
1:46:25cling to my beliefs, I become closed
1:46:27off. I’m not open to anything; I’m
1:46:30trapped. So, I have to open myself to
1:46:32everything, absolutely everything,
1:46:34because I don't know, I don't know
1:46:36either. That’s the beauty of it. In
1:46:39the end, you’ll realize that you know
1:46:41nothing. And that's beautiful. What's
1:46:43beautiful is
1:46:44I only know that I know nothing.
1:46:46That's it. And the beautiful thing is
1:46:47that you don't have to know it. That's
1:46:50the beauty of it, because your being
1:46:51already knows, and you can see in
1:46:53observing that it does everything
1:46:55perfectly. You don't have to jump in
1:46:57and get involved. That’s the beauty
1:46:59of it.
1:47:00Well, thank you very much Marco, for
1:47:02this
1:47:03No, thank you for the lovely chat. Well
1:47:07, I always let myself be surprised by
1:47:09what comes up, it's fun, I like it, and
1:47:11also when you say something I go and
1:47:13reflect on it later; it's not like I'm
1:47:16just going to defend myself and believe
1:47:18in myself, no. Everything I hear from
1:47:22outside I also take as an invitation to
1:47:24reflect
1:47:26and that is very beautiful. That's why
1:47:28thank you for inviting me to reflect as
1:47:30well. It's very nice.
1:47:32Thank you very much. Yes. I'm leaving
1:47:37all the information in the description
1:47:39on how to find Marcus, how to get his
1:47:41book, how because, of course, Marcus,
1:47:44you speak a lot of languages, like
1:47:46seven languages or six, eight,
1:47:48not that many. Not yet, not yet,
1:47:52because I’m not leaving the planet
1:47:54just yet; right now I’m focused on
1:47:56the Hispanic world, perfecting that and
1:47:58English, but later on I'll surely move
1:48:01to another area, but right now I only
1:48:03have English, German, right?
1:48:07Well, German, English, and Latin, and
1:48:09that's it. That's why I understand
1:48:11other languages, but I don't speak them
1:48:13.
1:48:14Ah, I was confused then, because, of
1:48:16course, I saw that your book is in
1:48:18several languages, right?
1:48:21We offer it in several languages
1:48:23because when it's finished it expands,
1:48:25because I have several friends who
1:48:30also live in Spain, some who come from
1:48:32Romania, some Russians, and they all
1:48:34want to translate the book into their
1:48:36native language. So they offer, and
1:48:39some Portuguese too. So, ah, well, I
1:48:41like that others also enjoy it, it
1:48:44flows on its own, it expands on its own
1:48:46.
1:48:49Ah, yes, well, the tribe, I actually
1:48:51perceive it's already there. The fears
1:48:54are still there. The system is having
1:48:59its last, I would say its last gasps,
1:49:01trying to keep people down and forcing
1:49:03them, but inside it’s already there.
1:49:08It's at an increasingly higher
1:49:09vibration. So, I see it as perfect.
1:49:12Some will be shaken a bit hard, others
1:49:15more softly, but it's happening, the
1:49:17tribe is on its way and humanity has to
1:49:19change. Humanity has to change because
1:49:22where they want to take us, there's no
1:49:24way out there, right?
1:49:27But anyone can have it, they know it
1:49:29and they feel it. Who wants to live in
1:49:32a 15-minute city, please? And they tell
1:49:35you what you have to do and what you
1:49:37shouldn't do, what kind of life is that
1:49:39?
1:49:40Don't you want to be a child, where no
1:49:42one tells you anything and you play
1:49:44freely?
1:49:45Sure. Well, I'm left with a lot of
1:49:48lessons. Let's see if the two of us get
1:49:50motivated and take 8 days off. This is
1:49:54complicated. We are going to take 8
1:49:57days off to do the challenge with
1:49:58Marcus because, of course, you fast
1:50:00every other day. I do, for example,
1:50:02today I am on the day, today is my
1:50:04fasting day of the month. I do one or
1:50:06two days of fasting a month, but that's
1:50:08it. I mean, I have tried doing long
1:50:10fasts and I have studied the whole
1:50:12process and I’m eager to do long
1:50:14fasts. My maximum was five or six days.
1:50:18But by the third day I, I said, of
1:50:22course, I started studying the subject,
1:50:25right? To say that here
1:50:28but no, you go there to observe your
1:50:30withdrawal symptoms, it's like any
1:50:32addict. That is the beautiful part. But
1:50:37you think hunger, hunger, you think my
1:50:39body is lacking. No, no. But any addict
1:50:43thinks my body needs the drug. No, your
1:50:45body doesn't need it. It got used to
1:50:48that, and when the detox phase comes,
1:50:50that is what you classify as hunger.
1:50:53But that is, that is beautiful. But
1:50:55initially, you should start with
1:50:57intermittent fasting.
1:50:59That is the first step. It's, it's
1:51:03closing the window, meaning, how should
1:51:05we say, within 6 hours? Well, five,
1:51:09four, until within 3, 2 hours, that
1:51:11should be enough, and you automatically
1:51:14eat less. Automatically, everything
1:51:18else flows on its own. That is what's
1:51:21beautiful. If you allow your body to
1:51:23get used to, or rather, to be liberated
1:51:25to its natural state, then you'll also
1:51:28feel much more energy.
1:51:30That's right, that is one of the
1:51:32clearest things when you fast. The
1:51:35first thing is, surprisingly, you don't
1:51:37have that energy to run a marathon, but
1:51:39you have much more energy to take
1:51:41action. I mean, you’re less drowsy,
1:51:45you have much greater mental clarity,
1:51:47you have much stronger cognizance, I
1:51:49mean, fasting does a ton of good things
1:51:52, but of course, don’t go out and
1:51:54start fasting and then run a marathon
1:51:56or become a bodybuilder because
1:52:00it’s going to cost you, right?
1:52:04Right? Although sometimes there are
1:52:10risks for people who do this and then
1:52:12compensate, right?
1:52:14Oh yes, they get the yo-yo effect. All
1:52:16day I don't eat, and then at night I
1:52:18just
1:52:18go wild. Exactly. That’s what needs
1:52:21to be said.
1:52:22Exactly. Well, intermittent fasting is
1:52:26eating less. Eating less also means
1:52:30getting to the root cause of why I’m
1:52:32eating, and if I haven't resolved my
1:52:34anxiety, that’s what happens a lot.
1:52:38They force themselves into a fast and
1:52:40try hard, but when they return, they
1:52:42want to soothe all that anxiety again.
1:52:45That’s like the yo-yo effect; they
1:52:47haven't solved the root cause. That is
1:52:50the problem I’m always observing,
1:52:52isn't it? Thanks for the invitation,
1:52:54thanks for the lovely, beautiful chat.
1:52:58And maybe we’ll see each other live
1:53:00and in person
1:53:02at a retreat. That would be perfect.
1:53:04I’m telling you, I’m telling you.
1:53:06If the audience, if you guys are up for
1:53:07it, check the description; he hosts
1:53:09retreats, he’s moving all over the
1:53:11world. I’ve seen retreats in Mexico,
1:53:13I’ve seen retreats in many places,
1:53:15now he’s in Valencia. And if we can
1:53:19find 8 days, I don’t know where
1:53:21we’ll find them, but if we can find 8
1:53:23days, or even four, we’ll go and do
1:53:25that thing you mentioned: no eating, no
1:53:27drinking, no talking, doing absolutely
1:53:29nothing. Damn, that sounds tough. No
1:53:32talking.
1:53:33Do you think that’s what scares you
1:53:35the
1:53:35most, for sure.
1:53:38Well, thank you very much.
1:53:39Thank you,
1:53:40thank you. We’ve talked about freedom
1:53:45, we’ve talked about renunciation,
1:53:47we’ve talked about possibilities. Um,
1:53:53thanks to everyone again for sharing
1:53:55this dream and for subscribing. I
1:53:59always forget to say that. Hit that
1:54:01little button; if you’ve made it this
1:54:03far, give it a like, share it, leave a
1:54:05comment, leave a comment for Marco, let
1:54:07us know what you thought, what
1:54:08questions we might have missed so we
1:54:10can invite him back, and whether you
1:54:12would be up for not eating.
1:54:14That’s it, what I was going to say:
1:54:16are you up for it? Have you done it?
1:54:18Have you fasted? Or rather, have you
1:54:20done the hardest thing he mentioned,
1:54:22which is being silent for a day? Let's
1:54:24see, let's see if someone tells you
1:54:26like this. Start with what's easy. Do a
1:54:30fast of words. One day don't speak, a
1:54:34fast of words, or that also includes a
1:54:36fast from your cell phone. I mean, do
1:54:40it for just one day, a day of fasting
1:54:42without a mobile.
1:54:43One day without mobiles.
1:54:46That's right. Those are like the game
1:54:48of understanding my dependencies
1:54:49because what I depend on controls me.
1:54:52Freedom is something else. That's the
1:54:55game, discovering it.
1:54:56Marcus,
1:54:57well, thanks again.
1:54:59Are you happy?
1:55:00Are you happy?
1:55:01Yes, yes, of course. I'm not looking
1:55:04for it. If I start looking for it, no.
1:55:07I am in that fullness. You can see and
1:55:10feel that by the way you wake up. Ah,
1:55:13what a beautiful day, how beautiful it
1:55:16is to use this body, and that is at
1:55:18every moment, and you see circumstances
1:55:20in your life that don't flow the way
1:55:22you maybe foresaw, it doesn't matter, I
1:55:24am in complete peace and tranquility
1:55:27with myself and that's it. And that is
1:55:30beautiful. When one is at peace with
1:55:32oneself, that is full happiness.
1:55:35Exactly.
1:55:36Because that is that movement that
1:55:38takes your peace away, that is where
1:55:40you then look for a distraction, and
1:55:42that distraction for a minute you think
1:55:44is happiness, but those are false
1:55:46happinesses. Sure.
1:55:48Exactly.
1:55:49Well, may you be at peace.
1:55:50That.
1:55:51And happy. Until next time.
1:55:53Thank you very much.
1:55:54Until next time. I wish you the best.
1:55:56Take care. Bye. Bye.
1:55:58Thanks. Bye.

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