YT YouTube2Text

YouTube2Text → Transcripts → Episode 10: Breaking Barriers in ABA: Elevating Practicum Experiences | FREE ABA CEU

Episode 10: Breaking Barriers in ABA: Elevating Practicum Experiences | FREE ABA CEU — Transcript

by Blossoming Together · 10,384 words · 1,421 segments · language en · Watch on YouTube

Open in transcriber Summarize with AI Download SRT/VTT

Full transcript

0:00hello and welcome back to the blossoming
0:02together podcast today we have Co Isaiah
0:05here and Taylor Ross to discuss
0:07enhancing the fieldwork uh practicum
0:09experience but first I want to get into
0:12our objectives so our first objective is
0:16participants will understand the key
0:17components of effective practicum
0:19programs and applied Behavior Analysis
0:22by examining the challenges and barriers
0:24faced by ABA agencies in cultivating
0:26comprehensive practicum experiences our
0:29second objective is participants will
0:31explore and discuss strategies to
0:32enhance the quality and coherence of
0:35practicum programs with ABA agencies
0:37fostering collaboration among ABA agency
0:39owners leadership supervisors bcbas and
0:43students feel like that was a mouthful
0:45um so we coai Zia is our current
0:49Regional fieldwork advisor and Taylor is
0:52our previous fieldwork adviser now
0:55Clinical Director so Kai can you tell us
0:57a little bit about what your position in
1:00tals and how you kind of got into the
1:01field of ABA in general starting kind of
1:04with how I got into the field um I went
1:07to um Dearborn for my undergrad studies
1:10um and I was a Psychology major with a
1:14minor in BIO and minor philosophy um I
1:16didn't really know what I wanted to do
1:18with my psych major you know you have to
1:21kind of go to grad school right um with
1:24a Psychology major I went to a career
1:26Affair my senior year and I found a tech
1:29job there yeah which I applied for and
1:31got and my first supervisor there was
1:34great I really enjoyed working with my
1:36first kiddo and that was kind of how I
1:38got into the field uh prior to that I
1:40really didn't know what ABA or Autism
1:43were I feel like that's so common with
1:45like when you graduate with a psych
1:46degree it's like okay I want to work
1:47with kids but how do I like where am I
1:49going with it and that's kind of how I
1:50got into the field of ABA too you're
1:52just like find it yeah and there's not
1:54like a lot of undergraduate classes that
1:56focus on ABA or Autism even in like my
2:00abnormal site class which focused more
2:02on like diagnosable disorders right I
2:04feel like we didn't really go over
2:05autism you go over more of the stuff
2:07that you hear about every day or that
2:08you see on TV yeah um I think so too
2:11yeah that's the tldr of how I got
2:13started and um I was at that my first
2:16company for about five years for is a
2:18tech a little over a year is a bcba I
2:21found Blossom um I love the N teaching
2:24style so I came here as a bcba
2:27eventually got a lead position and then
2:29moved into the
2:30Regional fieldwork supervisor role when
2:32Taylor moved out of it yeah into
2:34Clinical Director um I'm new to the role
2:37still so I'm kind of learning the ropes
2:39on the Fly sure um but it it mainly
2:42entails like making sure our students
2:44are getting like consistent experience
2:46across supervisors providing some of the
2:48extra support CU supervisors also have
2:50case loads and stuff that they have to
2:52focus on while while they're doing these
2:55supervisions um so yeah that's like been
2:58the big thing for me so far um um and I
3:00really enjoy like the teaching ABA
3:02material and like kind of creating
3:04examples out of like real life scenarios
3:07so having like the group supervisions to
3:08talk about that stuff and apply ABA to
3:11the real world and also play games um
3:14and create like creative content which
3:16creative it's one of your things
3:17something that Taylor did great with um
3:19but yeah so that's kind of how I feel
3:21about the role so far and what I've been
3:22doing yeah thank you for telling us a
3:23little bit about it Taylor can you tell
3:25us a little bit about how you got into
3:27the field of ABA and kind of how you got
3:29to where are now sure Ken um I went to
3:33CMU Central Michigan University for my
3:36undergrad okay and um again we all
3:39stumble upon ABA but I was a psych major
3:42I wanted to go into clinical counseling
3:45and I volunteered at the autism clinic
3:47there and I had this kiddo that I just
3:51fell in love with and I always say like
3:53he looked at me in a way that just I
3:56don't know made me feel so special and I
3:57connected with you know my first person
4:00with autism yeah and I knew then like
4:03this is what I want to do with my life
4:05um so Central Michigan has an undergrad
4:08a couple ABA classes that I started to
4:10take um and then they also offered a
4:13grad program which I did not go to but
4:15once I graduated I immediately enrolled
4:17in a grad program Ball State which I
4:19know a lot of us go to which we'll get
4:21into the online programs and then was a
4:25tech for 5 six years bcba for 5 six
4:28years um me and and Kiren actually used
4:30to work together um and then one day
4:34actually the pandemic hit and we
4:35switched to tella health and I saw
4:38Blossom on Facebook and I messaged them
4:40on Facebook and I was like you guys look
4:42like the style that I want to go to and
4:46they messaged me back and we were just a
4:47tiny little company but um you know they
4:51got me in as a bcba very thankful for
4:53that and then I kind of climbed the
4:56ranks I went to lead bcba yes knew I
4:59wanted to grow um lead bcba uh Regional
5:03fieldwork adviser as well and now I'm
5:06very thankful that I have the chance to
5:08be Clinical Director and I just started
5:09in that role too so very happy coai is
5:12where he is and where I am so yeah it's
5:14been a journey Both Deserve the roles
5:16the origin stories are really funny with
5:19like just how people get started I know
5:20my first kid is something cool that
5:22actually happened um cuz I think your
5:23first experience is really important for
5:25staying in the field um my first kid was
5:28like a non-verbal learner and then
5:30within like I had him for 2 years very
5:32long time but like by the time he
5:33discharged like full like full verbal
5:36like like full verbal Communicator um
5:39just in gened school and he actually
5:41messages me on LinkedIn uh maybe like
5:44maybe like three or four months ago oh
5:46my go and he's got his own podcast now
5:48so he's doing what we're doing yeah I
5:50want to have him as a guest we'll have
5:52to talk about him but I thought that was
5:53really cool it's like a full circle
5:55moment um that's amazing and it like
5:57kind of shows the difference between
5:58This and like other fields iny I know
5:59Taylor mentioned like clinical
6:00counseling this can be like a little
6:02more light-hearted which is nice you
6:05know lots lots of Happ like lots of
6:06tough stuff but lots of happy moments
6:08too right a lot of fun yeah yeah well I
6:11know that we all are pretty passionate
6:13that's why we're all here about
6:14practicum experience and just that in
6:18the field in general I feel like
6:19everyone has kind of a unique practicum
6:21experience and sometimes they're great
6:23sometimes they may not be um so I kind
6:26of want to hear a little bit about both
6:27of your experience as practicum students
6:29kind of why you're so passionate about
6:31making it how high quality it is now so
6:33coai do you want to go first and tell us
6:34a little bit sure um so I like during my
6:38time as a tech I had one supervisor
6:42pretty much the entire time like I had
6:43spot supervisions from other supervisors
6:45but I had the one for all the kids that
6:47I worked with and she was also my like
6:49fieldwork
6:51supervisor um it wasn't very structured
6:54okay I thought she was like a great
6:56supervisor but the program itself wasn't
6:58developed at the place that I worked at
7:00yet so it was more like a thing where
7:03management would be like you can take a
7:05practicum student okay and have meetings
7:07when you can have meetings and there
7:09wasn't like a set set of rules or like
7:11an like a task list for experience that
7:13I was going off of so it wasn't very
7:16structured at all yeah not really um but
7:18she was a great supervisor which kind of
7:20kept me afloat um and that's kind of
7:24pivoted like kind of pivoting that's
7:25kind of helped guide me and how I want
7:28to be as a supervisor um CU I may not be
7:30the most structured person either um but
7:35my experience was mainly focused on
7:36writing programs like maybe like case
7:39collab um I did two assessments my first
7:42Ables took me six hours to run by myself
7:44oh my gosh like as as a bcba as no as a
7:47as a student when I ran my first Ables
7:49it took me six hours um we had to do it
7:52across two full sessions with a kiddo um
7:55to work through the entire abls and I'd
7:58also built the entire binder so between
8:00that and between that and the actual
8:02assessment itself probably like 21 hours
8:03worth of work um you really got familiar
8:07with the a there yeah so so I'd say like
8:09my experience and I did an online
8:11program as well so I'd say my experience
8:12was more like more on me to like create
8:16any experiences I like wanted to get ask
8:19the questions that I needed answered um
8:22but without necessarily having like the
8:24guideline for what to talk about or what
8:26to ask or hey here's what you need to
8:28learn um um and that kind of has
8:32impacted who I am as a supervisor I
8:34think not necessarily in a negative way
8:35but um yeah I feel like yeah so I feel
8:38like your supervisor was doing the best
8:40with what resources she had and you're
8:42in a similar situation as I was like I
8:44had really great supervisors but I had
8:47to kind of create the experiences that I
8:49wanted um and like make it kind of
8:52create it myself because there wasn't
8:53anything to guide us like within our
8:55program and you were there too as a
8:57student do you want to talk a little bit
8:58about your practicum exper experience
9:00yes I very similar to you had a great
9:03supervisor she was very by the book kind
9:06of got me out of my comfort zone um and
9:09we didn't have a curriculum and we went
9:12off of day-to-day things that happened
9:14with the kids and I'm sure a lot of
9:16people listening might have similar
9:17experiences it kind of just comes up as
9:19you go yeah um and yes thankfully that
9:22you know she guided me in the right
9:24direction and again I try and model a
9:26lot of what she instilled in me um but I
9:29think the biggest thing was I I didn't
9:33have like I like coai I had an online
9:36program so I didn't have that classroom
9:38cohort feel to like bounce things off of
9:41um other people so it was me and her me
9:43and her and you know you go to homebased
9:46sessions and you're kind of by yourself
9:48and you check in the next day about
9:49things so um overall I'm happy and it
9:52led me to where I am today and Blossom
9:54helps me continue to grow but um I I
9:58just felt like you know it could have
10:00been better and it is what it is yeah I
10:04feel like I was in a very similar
10:05situation so we both had the same um
10:08ultimately practicum supervisor and she
10:10was fantastic and she and I actually did
10:12the same education program so she and I
10:15used that to build the experiences I
10:17wanted but I had to fight for them not
10:19because of her choice but like it was
10:21company decision like we couldn't just
10:24make um opportunities arise like we had
10:26to follow the lead of the learner rather
10:28than doing doing Mack assignments it's
10:30like no we don't have the time to do
10:31Mack assignments we have all these other
10:33things to do right um yeah and piggy
10:35backing off the home base thing um that
10:38made it really difficult cuz I was in
10:39the same situation made it very
10:42difficult
10:42to get experience shadowing like going
10:46to other supervisions and stuff because
10:47I had a full case load so I'd work with
10:49kids from 12 to 8 but I those would be
10:52in two different places so I'd have to
10:54drive somewhere else in the morning if I
10:56wanted to get shadowing in and I mean we
10:58all have lives outside of this like I
11:00had a dog so it's I can't just be gone
11:03from 8 to eight every day um so that
11:06made it really difficult that was one of
11:07the things about the experience that I'd
11:08probably change and I I just wanted to
11:11go off of you too when Kai said it's
11:13kind of R bcba supervisors have full
11:16case loads and the company is kind of
11:18like yeah here's a student it's just
11:20interesting that you know not every
11:22company really takes the time to prepare
11:24that bcb for a student and luckily the
11:27bacb guidelines just um imple mented the
11:29oneyear rule where a first year bcba has
11:33to be overseen by a fifth year bcba
11:35which I think that's really heading in
11:37the right direction because when I took
11:39my first student I was fresh off of the
11:41exam and I'm like okay well here we go
11:44but um yeah just like making sure I mean
11:47we'll get into it but making sure that
11:48those BCBS are prepared as well and have
11:50the time yeah so kind of with your guys
11:52experience as the regional fieldwork
11:53advisers I feel like you guys have done
11:55a lot of research knowing what um like
11:58typical experiences look like what the
12:00general experience of a student looks
12:02like at other companies or just kind of
12:03standard amongst the field so can you
12:05tell us a little bit about that and then
12:06we'll get into like how we want to
12:07improve it and what we want to make
12:09different so the funny thing about it is
12:12I feel like the typical experience isn't
12:14typical because it's not the same across
12:17that's a good point every other every
12:18other place you know um even speaking to
12:21the other bcbas that we work with here
12:23on a regular basis about our experiences
12:25um it's like the only thing that's
12:27common is there like wasn't a lot in
12:30common like there's not a lot of
12:31structure and I think that's the barrier
12:33yeah that's like where it's like kind of
12:35lacking 100% And to like piggy back off
12:38the kind of the company just saying like
12:39oh here's a student I know like where I
12:41was my supervisor didn't have to take me
12:43on as a student she was pretty much
12:47given the choice as we all were there
12:49like will you take a student and if if
12:51she says no then it's on me to seek out
12:54someone else which is difficult because
12:56she's the only supervisor I had on my
12:57case on yeah kids yeah so I think like
13:00the just just the fact that that's how
13:02it starts shows you there isn't like a
13:04ton of like structure like a curriculum
13:07as Taylor mentioned earlier um for
13:09people to go off of so really the
13:11practicum experience in most places I
13:13think comes down to the student yeah
13:15which isn't it's not necessarily like a
13:17it's like the equivalent of being in a
13:19school and telling a kid in math class
13:21okay what are we going to learn about
13:22today and they don't know what they
13:24don't know right and that's where yeah I
13:26I love that phrase so it's like we want
13:28to make make it like as a student you
13:30want to make it what you want to get out
13:32of it but you can't make anything like
13:34if you don't know what to look for you
13:36think you're getting the best experience
13:37but then you become a bcba and you might
13:39experience like not knowing now because
13:41you didn't have those other experiences
13:43yeah you don't know what you've missed
13:44out on until like you're in that
13:46situation and you need it but you don't
13:48have it out when I was doing um the
13:51research of you know how to build the
13:53program luckily I had a a bit of a
13:55foundation from my previous fieldwork
13:58advisor here um we've had a couple but I
14:02actually sent a poll out to a couple
14:03hundred bcbas to have them rate their
14:06practicum experiences from one to five
14:08you know one being the least support
14:10five being I loved my fieldwork
14:12experience I wouldn't change anything
14:13and I I think we came up with it was
14:16about 60% was rating their practicum
14:20experiences a two and those were current
14:22bcbas so um just the general I know
14:25that's only a sample of 200 bcbas but
14:27just the general consensus
14:29most people fell unders supported and um
14:32underprepared as you know you take the
14:34exam and then you have your license and
14:37companies hire you but did you really do
14:40the work are you really prepared to work
14:42you know with not just autism population
14:45but any population any age so um that's
14:48really what I found when we were doing
14:49some of the research for the conferences
14:51we attended yeah and I think what speaks
14:53to like the disparity and what
14:55everybody's getting is if you if you did
14:57a poll on how the exper experience was
14:59you get results like that but if you do
15:01a poll on how your supervisor was you
15:03probably get a totally different set of
15:04results cuz we we both we all said that
15:06we appreciated who our supervisor was as
15:08a person
15:09but they didn't have the resources we're
15:11acknowledging that but that's our
15:13experience y you know yeah okay Taylor
15:17so can you tell us what the ideal
15:19structure of a practicum experience
15:21would look like obviously the field of
15:24ABA has not perfected it yet but we have
15:26some ideas um so we really want to first
15:29and foremost make sure that there is
15:32somebody overseeing it so every company
15:36has you know the CEO or the president or
15:39you know the Clinical Director depending
15:41on your size but there does need to be
15:44somebody that focuses just on fieldwork
15:48and I think that has really helped you
15:50know Blossom as a company to have
15:52somebody day in day out be monitoring
15:54that and then from there down we want to
15:57make sure that our bcbas competent
15:59supervisor so making sure that we go
16:01over what is expected of them as a
16:04practicum supervisor making sure they
16:06understand the handbook in and out um
16:09there has been times where you know BCB
16:11they aren't even sure about the hours
16:12ratio so making sure they understand the
16:13handbook making sure they demonstrate
16:16the skills that we want to instill in
16:18future bcbas um we want to make sure
16:21that they meet on a weekly basis
16:24somebody's monitoring that as well and
16:26they're getting that feedback
16:27consistently um getting the appropriate
16:30experiences like Co I said earlier his
16:33experience was mainly assessment writing
16:35and teching so making sure that they're
16:37attending parent meetings they're
16:38attending you know IEPs if needed um
16:41collaborating with other disciplines um
16:43so things of that nature of course we
16:45want to make sure that everybody
16:47experiences a little bit of everything
16:48and then also communicating with
16:50universities and everything I know
16:52that's kind of uncommon but um making
16:54sure the coordinator is overseeing you
16:57know their University experience grades
17:00um their assignments and reports and
17:03things like that as well so just making
17:04sure it's a comprehensive kind of
17:06hitting everything in the task list yeah
17:09thank you I think that and you hit on
17:12like the education component I think
17:13that is like one thing that our field is
17:15really really lacking um because there
17:17you get scored on all of these things
17:20within your program at school but you're
17:23not knowing and those are just things
17:24those are like not real examples but so
17:26you're like um professors aren't knowing
17:29how you're applying those skills in the
17:31real life like examples so that's
17:33something that we bridging that Gap is
17:35really important um and then just going
17:37off of what you guys said we don't know
17:39what we don't know so at least at
17:41Blossom and I'm hoping other a agencies
17:44take this as well um don't put it on the
17:47student you know it's kind of up to us
17:49to build these bcbas we are signing off
17:52on their experience at the end of the
17:54day and we want to make sure um that
17:56we're prideful in that so yeah yeah you
17:59have anything to note on it coai like as
18:01you're entering the role yeah I think
18:03like um Taylor hit on a lot of the stuff
18:05that is important um one of the nice
18:07things about having the person in the
18:08regional position um it creates like the
18:11group cohort so like we get the group
18:14supervisions even if the experience that
18:16every um student was getting was similar
18:19across bcbas having that group cohort
18:23allows the students to share experiences
18:25with each other cuz like not everybody
18:27gets every experience just because
18:29that's just not how your day goes um not
18:31going but having like the cohort to talk
18:35through some of that stuff with I think
18:37is really beneficial because you just
18:38get let's say there's nine people in the
18:40cohort you get nine times the experience
18:42that You' normally get um because the
18:43communication's so constant and
18:46collaborative and I think another
18:48important thing with the practicum like
18:51with the program itself is having the
18:53additional roles within the company yeah
18:55um such as like the supervising
18:57candidate role that we have here um in
19:00order to like provide like a different
19:02set of experiences give more leadership
19:04opportunities um so what does that role
19:07entail um for people who are unfamiliar
19:09with the supervising candidate so our
19:11supervising candidates um they have
19:13lighter case loads so they're teching a
19:15little bit less than your normal
19:17full-time technician and then they're
19:19allotted some extra paid time to provide
19:23support to other kids in the clinic um
19:25or some of the other techs so they'll
19:27they'll get called to support when a
19:29behavior happens so the bcba doesn't
19:30always have to drop what they're doing
19:31and go do it and then they also get the
19:33experience supporting on like novel
19:36behaviors or with kids that they don't
19:37know as well um and it gives them an
19:40opportunity to collaborate amongst each
19:41other gives them an opportunity to
19:43collaborate with bcbas about what
19:44they've seen when they help on these
19:45Behavior calls um which is like a huge
19:47skill once you go into the field um they
19:50also get some a lot of time to go do
19:54fieldwork stuff so like attend
19:56supervisions yeah help right program
19:59unrestricted hours yeah they UNR opport
20:02exactly cuz the unrestricted time I've
20:04anyone who has done their practicum
20:05experience in the last 10 years um they
20:08know that the unrestricted time is
20:09really hard to get yeah like and if
20:11places staff you on a kid for 40 hours
20:14you're not the expectation is pretty
20:15much I mean to get 750 or 900 or 1,200
20:20or whatever you needed based on your
20:21experience um it takes a long time
20:23because you have to do that stuff
20:24outside of your normal work work hours
20:27and then we're like teaching stud
20:28students that their work life balance
20:30doesn't matter like their home life
20:32isn't valued no and and you definitely
20:34don't want that cuz I feel like there's
20:36already such a big burnout yeah um like
20:39in this field you know like you see
20:40bcbas who are done before they're 30 or
20:42texts that are texts that are done 6
20:44months into the job right um so I think
20:47having that extra time allotted to get
20:49some of that stuff done focus on some of
20:51the admin work because that's what bcba
20:52life is like too balancing the admin
20:54with the clinical stuff we are very
20:57lucky I just have to to say to be at a
21:00company that will invest in that
21:01unrestricted paid time I was going to
21:03ask so what how many hours do our um
21:06supervising candidates get um for like
21:09paid so the supervising candidates get
21:1112 um and some of that time is going to
21:14be a lotted to being that Center support
21:16staff okay um but they have the rest of
21:18the time to kind of use for shadowing
21:21supervisions helping with treatment
21:22plans um all this other stuff they can
21:24get experience for um and collaborating
21:28whereas the practicum students who
21:29aren't supervising candidates get 5
21:31hours so that's still still some paid
21:34time um which is something that is very
21:36foreign to the rest of us because we
21:38didn't have any of that okay I want to
21:40take a really quick break to name our
21:42first code word which is student so your
21:45code word for your ceu is
21:47student perfect so Kai we kind of talked
21:50a little bit about what um like a ideal
21:53practicum experience looks like and I
21:55know something that you really focus on
21:57with your students you have is soft
21:59skills and developing those and I think
22:01that's something that not all of us
22:02really got to work on so can you talk a
22:04little bit about how you promote soft
22:06skills at this start of your students
22:08experience sure and I mean even starting
22:10before I started as a bcba um I spoke a
22:13little bit about my practicum experience
22:15and not having necessarily like a ton of
22:17the shadowing time or things like that
22:19one thing that I'm very grateful for was
22:21that my supervisor was cool about
22:25filling me in on situations that would
22:27occur so like the stuff that happened
22:29she'd always come and tell me about it
22:31even if I wasn't necessarily involved um
22:34so I think like having that sort of
22:37experience when I start normally one of
22:40the first things I tell my students is
22:41like keep your head out of the dump so
22:45um and and that sticks typically it
22:48sticks with them um and I've had people
22:50actually come back and reference it
22:51afterwards or it's like hey I I did this
22:53because I remember you saying that which
22:55is really gratifying I think is like
22:58someone who's explaining this stuff um
23:01but I think like there there are certain
23:03things that you can learn on the Fly um
23:06when you start as a bcba somewhere
23:08generally you'll have somebody holding
23:09your hand when you do your first couple
23:11assessments um as you write programs for
23:14your first couple kids and all of that
23:15clinical stuff like you're going to get
23:17taught and and odds are it's going to be
23:19different based on where you're at like
23:20Blossom does things much differently
23:21than my previous place so when I came to
23:24Blossom I pretty much had to relearn the
23:26clinical skills for the first couple
23:28months you spent all these hours like
23:30mastering something like all right let's
23:31do it over again yeah like I mean you
23:33get taught D and then you have to go
23:35learn the whole the whole thing again
23:37but N Style um which took a second but I
23:40think the soft skills like handling
23:42different situations how to work with
23:44other people that stuff if if you don't
23:47have it when you first start working
23:49somewhere and the same thing that we'll
23:51say to the students um then you're kind
23:54of so yeah you know because like you
23:57once you have like bad report with
23:59somebody or you show that like you're
24:01not necessarily the best collaborator
24:03you have to work to undo that image and
24:04it's really difficult to undo that
24:07versus like just being good at it from
24:10the start um and obviously so that stuff
24:12comes sometimes that stuff comes
24:13naturally to people other times they
24:15have to work at it but I think like
24:17focusing on that just as much as you do
24:19the clinical stuff um you prepare them
24:22more for the actual field cuz not
24:24everyone's going to be a bcba where they
24:26do their practicum so the clinical stuff
24:28is going to change but the soft skills
24:29don't you have to be able to collaborate
24:31wherever you're at and I think a big
24:33soft skill that um is sometimes really
24:35hard and I it was hard for me coming
24:36into becoming a bcba here is the
24:39feedback component like I was able to
24:41give feedback um to technicians but even
24:44providing feedback to leaders and things
24:46like that so how do you promote those
24:48within your sessions or supervisions so
24:51I generally ask for it but like also I
24:53think that that's another soft skill is
24:55like setting good boundaries or
24:56expectations at the start of any working
24:59relationship so like tell students to do
25:01this with families or with new techs or
25:03with new supervisors setting some
25:05boundaries and expectations as to how
25:07you like your feedback um when you like
25:09your feedback do you like it in the
25:10moment do you want it afterwards public
25:12versus private is another big argument
25:15um and do you like it face to face or
25:18via like a message direct message yeah
25:21yeah like we use slack but other places
25:23use group me things like that so I think
25:25like coaching that stuff is just
25:27practice with it I know the first time I
25:29asked my um my students here for
25:31feedback was the first time I really
25:33tried this and I got it back and it was
25:35a little rough so and I it wasn't
25:38necessarily the the feedback itself that
25:40was rough but more so the delivery okay
25:43um like we talk about sandwiching is a
25:45big thing um good bad good been a little
25:47harsh yeah good constructive good um but
25:49that's okay cuz it was like it was a
25:51good learning experience you know like
25:52I'm not going to have hard feelings
25:53about it cuz I even when I started as a
25:56supervisor like you said I think I
25:57strugg a lot with how to give
26:01feedback um to different types of texts
26:04yeah because some people everybody needs
26:05it differently and I think that's one of
26:07the biggest things another soft skill to
26:09learn is like it's on the teacher to
26:10adapt not on the student right and
26:13understanding like everyone does things
26:14different and learns different and yeah
26:16yeah um so you have to really like be
26:18malleable yeah you come from a place of
26:21like humility too like you're very
26:23humble and I think just as BCB too and
26:25instilling that in our
26:26students we no ABA and we don't know
26:30everything so I think you know you do a
26:32really great job of like giving
26:35receiving feedback it's it's okay it's
26:37natural it's normal and you know not
26:39everybody possesses that skill so thanks
26:42great job I think so too yeah um and
26:45then Taylor I want you to talk a little
26:47bit about how we can you briefly touched
26:50on it with um like increasing the
26:52collaboration with Educators what
26:54strategies can we use to just really
26:56make this like across the field some
26:58something that is expected yeah it's
27:01difficult because ABA I feel like in
27:03general we have a lot of online programs
27:06and um you know we're in metro Detroit
27:08so it is a little more doable I guess
27:11with the universities around here um but
27:14we have had experience where we are
27:16pairing with universities and we want to
27:19you know get in touch with their uh
27:21professors and the professors you know
27:23also be giving us feedback so just
27:25making sure that you know we are
27:27monitoring some of their performance
27:29within schooling so you know in our one
27:32toone meetings with their supervisors
27:35sometimes we will go over school workor
27:36things like that and then you know
27:38sometimes professors will reach out to
27:40their practicum supervisor uh to make
27:43sure that you know they're getting
27:44experience within their assignments as
27:46well and I know like some universities
27:48do a task list type of thing uh what
27:51what do they call it it's like a
27:52practicum uh oh my gosh a workbook yeah
27:56and making sure that you're hitting
27:57everything um and Blossom also created
27:59one of those so making sure that we're
28:02kind of lining up with the universities
28:03in that sense but in an Ideal World I
28:06would love if every supervising bcba had
28:09the chance to talk to students
28:11professors and vice versa just to make
28:13sure we're again bridging that Gap
28:15because with online programs there is a
28:17big gap there's two completely different
28:20your fieldwork experience is one place
28:22and then your schools across the country
28:24so um I think we're getting there and I
28:26think the more conversations we have
28:28like this the better but you know
28:30there's still some work to do I think
28:32something that needs to be more
28:33streamlined is the scoring of like the
28:35student at their practicum experience so
28:38like making sure they are not
28:39necessarily graded and it might not go
28:41towards their grade but I know that not
28:43every supervisor scores the assignments
28:45completed by their student so they're
28:47not learning the proficiency like they
28:48might be completing it but to what
28:50extent is it high quality you know yeah
28:53and that's like um I think that's like a
28:55really big inconsistency Within field um
28:59even talking to like the bacb cuz I sent
29:02I just sent an email actually last week
29:04asking an hour's question um a lot of
29:06like what you'll get back as an answer
29:08is it's on you as a competent supervisor
29:10to determine the answer to that question
29:13which is okay if you like if you have
29:16like the belief in yourself to do some
29:17of this stuff but it's tough because two
29:19competent people might answer it in a
29:20different way yeah you know um did it's
29:23judgement yeah it's judgment calls so I
29:26think that kind of speaks to the
29:28inconsistency that you get like with
29:29both the supervision and then the same
29:31thing kind of applies to schools like
29:33schools a lot of the schools I feel
29:35don't have just based on the students
29:37that we've seen don't have the same
29:38class tracks either so like some
29:40students are taking like a statistics
29:42class other people don't yeah so they're
29:44getting a completely different
29:45experience both ways right I think
29:48something too um to touch on is
29:50fieldwork courses like within the
29:52education program I know so I had to
29:55have a fieldwork course every semester
29:57but I've talked with some people who
29:58only had one fieldwork course during
30:00their entire experience and I did I only
30:02had one really so and I just feel like
30:05my fieldwork courses they ensured that I
30:07was getting those experiences like
30:09telling me kind of what to ask for what
30:10experiences to seek out with my
30:12supervisor so I don't know what you guys
30:14feel about field workor
30:15courses I I think it should be within
30:17every semester and you know a professor
30:20maybe monitoring that you are gaining
30:23that experience asking those questions
30:24um I'm not sure why it's not streamed on
30:27like that I there's a reason I think you
30:29have to hit a certain amount of ABA
30:32credits you know within your grad
30:34program um but it would be ideal and for
30:37every University to do that yeah I think
30:39like um cuz I only had one field work
30:41course as well and it was towards the
30:43end of my experience I'm glad I was at
30:45the end at least yeah it's it's tough
30:46like cuz it's almost like it it taught
30:49me more about like what to look for and
30:50what questions to ask I almost wish I
30:52had it at the start I at the end you're
30:53like wait I only have this much time
30:55left 100% um a nice compromise for
30:58something like that would be to have
31:00like each course have one or two
31:02fieldwork assignments where you actually
31:04have to collaborate with supervisor and
31:06do something that's like Behavior
31:08analytic in nature so that you're
31:10forcing you're at least kind of forcing
31:12everyone within your program as a school
31:14to get the
31:15same some of the same experiences so and
31:19there and those experiences can be ones
31:20that like you deem important sure you
31:23know what I mean absolutely I feel like
31:26you know we're such a new field and if
31:28we look at I don't know if we were going
31:30to bring this up but like the medical
31:32model doctors nurses they do their
31:35rotations and I think it's really cool
31:37how you know they'll do pediatrics and
31:39then they'll do uh geriatrics or
31:41whatever you know surgery it would be
31:43really cool if every um program did like
31:46early intervention and then adolescence
31:49and not just autism even sorry not even
31:51just autism but we haven't figured that
31:54out quite yet but I I think you know
31:56following those types of models
31:59hopefully we'll get there one day so our
32:01like almost like a residency you know um
32:03is similar to something like very
32:05structured speaking those like type of
32:07experiences it's just and I think
32:08there's so many like look talking about
32:10that right now it's a great idea there's
32:12just so many barriers that like we see
32:14you know like with um even with families
32:16getting attached with technicians the
32:18difference between seeing every seeing
32:19people dayto day versus doing your
32:22rotations where you may see a patient
32:23and then never see them again you know
32:25and that's the tricky part how do nurses
32:26and doctors do it you know yeah I think
32:28it's I think it's a like it's the way
32:30that we do need to go it's just it's
32:32just so I think that those are like
32:33that's one of the big barriers is like
32:35the especially with people that work in
32:36home like you build the relationship and
32:39then it's like yeah it's like oh
32:41actually I'm I'm gone you know very
32:43unique what we do is very unique um and
32:46I I hate to say like we're just we're in
32:49the autism area of ABA um but I do I
32:52would love if you know universities and
32:54the and the board maybe one day you know
32:57you do your rotations with each
32:59population and maybe animals and I don't
33:01know it would just be cool I I think
33:02that's such a good point to note because
33:04like we always get told no there's so
33:06much more you can do with ABA it's like
33:08but you can't do it if you didn't have a
33:10supervisor within that because you can't
33:11do it if you're not competent in it
33:12exactly really common one is prisons
33:15people talk about prisons but I never
33:17met a bcba that works that worked in a
33:19prison has that experience you know it's
33:21like how do you find those Mentor so if
33:22the bacb could help us like navigate
33:24that yeah that would be awesome I think
33:27so too our second code word for today is
33:30going to be supervisor do either of you
33:34guys um have an answer for if we would
33:36recommend that like the entire field
33:39kind of shifted to having a fieldwork
33:41advisor and kind of running their
33:43program similar to how we do I know it
33:46can be really
33:47costly so I think there are definitely
33:50benefits like we've talked about um to
33:52having a role like that you get we're
33:54talking about the consistency of
33:55experience in the field but you can't
33:57get that if don't even get it within
33:58your own company so having the fieldwork
34:00advisor helps with that um having one
34:03point person that people can go to is
34:06really beneficial if maybe they're
34:08having an issue with their supervisor
34:10one one thing that came up in my old
34:12company um very frequently and this
34:15happened to me a couple times too
34:17actually is when I would have like a
34:19question about something my supervisor
34:21was doing and I didn't necessarily feel
34:24comfortable asking them I didn't have a
34:26point person to go to that I could trust
34:28you know what I mean cuz I didn't want
34:30to feel like I was going over their head
34:31for things so like The Clinical Director
34:33and like starting drama yeah 100% you
34:35want to always avoid that kind of thing
34:37um having the point person within the
34:38company I think alleviates like that
34:42issue for the most part um and it also
34:44helps with in that situation
34:46particularly getting the coaching for
34:48like how you can approach that issue
34:50because we've been through it before um
34:53we already talked about the consistency
34:54between like the experience that
34:56everybody's getting um and the cohort I
34:59think is another really big benefit that
35:01isn't necessarily possible without
35:04having that one person who doesn't
35:06actually have their own students but
35:07just kind of is looking over everybody
35:09um and honestly and this is a really
35:13underrated one that person becomes
35:15proficient in answering questions about
35:17ours honestly and some of the technical
35:19stuff that like is just literally
35:21miserable to figure out on your own and
35:23all the things that are Ever Changing I
35:25feel like since I became a supervisor
35:26I'm like oh my god I've had to learn it
35:27another task list out and it's funny
35:30because when I was in the position
35:31you'll get an email from the board
35:33saying you know these are the new
35:34guidelines this is it you got to make
35:36sure everybody reads those and like I'm
35:38hoping all the bcbas check their emails
35:41but if you're not sending out the
35:42newsletters the updates you know that's
35:45what we're here for to make sure that
35:47they're getting that content it's going
35:48to get missed yeah and in addition to
35:50like being that one person for everybody
35:52and creating that consistent experience
35:54you're also taking you're taking stuff
35:57off the plates of your other bcbas so
36:00that they're more able to support their
36:02kids or like write programming um
36:05obviously they could build more if
36:06you're looking just at cost to kind of
36:09offset that um cuz like this extra time
36:11they would have to spend on practicum
36:13they're already doing their supervisions
36:15and they're giving their students the
36:16best experience they can but now they
36:18don't have to worry about doing these
36:19groups and doing this collaboration
36:21stuff and some of these other things
36:23that they just kind of when you look at
36:25your day as a bcba this stuff just
36:27absorbs your day you know like you come
36:29into work and you're like okay I have a
36:30good plan I'm going to be here 8 hours
36:32and then you end up being there for 9
36:33and a half ex really common in the field
36:35like it's not it doesn't feel like a
36:3640-hour job all the time sometimes it's
36:38not so having someone else to just take
36:41some of that stuff off your plate very
36:43beneficial you mentioned your cohorts
36:46what do you do you set up like groups
36:47now what do your group supervisions look
36:49like so we do um we do do a group
36:52supervision every other week which
36:53essentially looks like a class um but we
36:56play games stuff and we do things that
36:58are more interactive um the students get
37:01to pick the topics so they can come like
37:04we talked about automatically reinforced
37:06sib um last time and it started as just
37:09a conversation and then turned into like
37:11oh well here's a case study here's
37:13another case study here's another case
37:14study and then we start going over
37:16research um because someone's got an
37:18article on it um even sharing like cuu
37:20opportunities with students for stuff
37:22like that that's what that's what we
37:24ended up doing actually um so that's
37:27kind of what the group supervision looks
37:28like and then we also do like a
37:30literature review almost group every
37:33couple weeks for our students that are
37:34closer to testing to help build fluency
37:37a lot of people know the material and
37:39understand like the definitions and can
37:41recite what they were taught in a
37:42classroom or in a in a book um but you
37:46don't always get the fluency in terms of
37:48like applying that to the clinic you
37:50know what I mean like obviously stuff
37:52like token Eon things like token
37:54economies or token boards like you'll
37:56see that stuff it's like okay this is
37:57simple but then you see like the
37:59different kinds of group contingencies
38:01like that are just used in the
38:02classrooms at our Clinic um some of the
38:05differential reinforcement stuff where
38:07it's like oh well you don't think about
38:09it that way but really that's exactly
38:10what you're doing um in terms of like
38:13like Dr or even DRL when kids are
38:15eating on it yeah 100% um and even like
38:20with with a scheduled location kind of
38:23like this we have like the scheduled
38:24locations that people go to throughout
38:25the day um with requesting to get out of
38:28those like you're on your reinforcement
38:29schedules fixed interval schedules so
38:32there's like so many things that can be
38:34applied that we don't necessarily think
38:36about all the time and even as bcbas
38:37like you really have to think about like
38:40oh I I am still doing this but it's been
38:42four and a half years I studied it so I
38:44don't I don't remember all the
38:45terminology right I think something yeah
38:49I had a student ask me the other day to
38:50review some questions with her and I was
38:53like to be completely honest like I'll
38:54review them with you and help you find
38:55the answers but I don't remember like
38:57everything that I studied 3 years ago um
39:00so it's like a really good point and I
39:01know we have the study groups to kind of
39:03promote that for our students too I do
39:05want to be transparent with the
39:07listeners as well that our program
39:09hasn't always looked like this so I kind
39:11of want to talk a little bit about the
39:13not the mistakes but things that we did
39:14at the beginning of the program and how
39:15it's shifted since
39:18then well well I was the field Rec
39:20adviser maybe 2 years and um you know I
39:24took it on and it wasn't perfect and
39:25it's still not perfect every day we're
39:27changing something or making trying to
39:28make it better yeah um I really just
39:31think like how we came to some of these
39:33things was we had a student maybe go
39:36through their whole fieldwork program
39:38finish their hours all their classes are
39:40done and then you know they didn't feel
39:42ready that they were bcba and we were
39:44like oh my gosh like we tried to get you
39:45through this we got you through this
39:47you're you don't feel ready what are we
39:48going to do so trial and eror just like
39:51ABA is you know we try something we see
39:54the results and then we have to maybe
39:55change it so just a lot of you know
39:58going through those types of things um
40:00and then I think going off of like the
40:03costliness and everything I really like
40:06what Kai said about it takes pressure
40:08off of the BCB so maybe BCB when they
40:11were supervising they're saying I I
40:13don't have enough time to you know go
40:15over all of this or even just Logistics
40:17of like who is going where who's going
40:19to be supervising who um that you know
40:22takes some of that off the bcba so
40:24there's hopefully less burnout things
40:26like that and even other leaders within
40:28the company like though typically if you
40:30don't have a fieldwork adviser it's
40:32going to be on the Clinical Director the
40:33president and they have as you know now
40:35going into the Clinical Director role
40:37there's so much else that you have to
40:38cover it's like making those decisions I
40:40almost wonder at ABA agencies if we
40:42could you know I would love to
40:44streamline this but making it seem as
40:46that important of a position and here it
40:48is like you are right up there with
40:50everybody but you know you have your
40:52clinical directors you have your you
40:54know billing department whatever but you
40:55got to have a field workor person
40:57you know get that spreadsheet out of
40:59who's going where like are you doing the
41:02task list are you meeting your hours
41:04things like that so yeah yeah and to
41:06piggy back off of that a little bit um
41:09with that fieldwork position too like
41:11something that Taylor started doing in
41:12the position was sending out surveys
41:15like on a like 3 to six month basis for
41:17students to to get like some of that
41:20like written feedback for how their
41:22experience is going cuz I think like one
41:24of the best ways to um like bu an
41:27experience is to like look back at what
41:29you missed on yours you know cuz cuz
41:31that's the stuff that really sticks with
41:33you um cuz once you get in the field and
41:35you realize that you miss it it's like
41:37oh bad experience um so really trying to
41:40avoid that I think that that's helped
41:42catch a lot of the like kind of quality
41:44control stuff that you need not letting
41:46it slip through the cracks as it would
41:47before yeah or not like let even letting
41:50them feel
41:51heard transparency yeah transparency is
41:54huge um and that's something that we
41:55always talk about but it's a big yeah
41:57it's like a core component of our field
41:59like our students know that they are
42:01valued and their experiences are like
42:03what matters and we're here to
42:04absolutely do it for them absolutely and
42:06that's even something I think when we
42:07interview newb ccbas here one of the
42:10questions that we ask is like what's
42:12something that you wish you'd gotten off
42:14of your practicum experience that you
42:16didn't get because we we're we're trying
42:18to see how like how ready they are to be
42:20a supervisor cuz a lot of people haven't
42:21been in a structured place like this
42:23where you're going to have one or two
42:24students yeah um but at pretty much all
42:26times
42:27yeah um so yeah yeah it's a little bit
42:31hard um so if there are bcbas listening
42:34who really want to kind of implement
42:35this within their organizations but they
42:37are not in a leadership role how would
42:38you recommend they present it to those
42:41leaders honestly get the data um go
42:44around maybe take some polls of your
42:46bcba like or bcbas and just see what
42:50their experience was like and what their
42:52current experiences and see like maybe
42:54just the satisfaction levels take
42:56surveys be
42:57transparent and not everybody is you
43:01know as lucky as us to have like
43:03transparency within our leaders but we
43:05were able to go you know to upper
43:07management and say you know this our
43:10Center is trying to be Innovative in the
43:12field in general with the N the
43:14classroom Styles um but we also want to
43:17be Innovative on the other side of it
43:19with you know not with the kids to build
43:21better bcbas so going to your upper
43:23management and just you know presenting
43:26some type of proposal a plan and in the
43:28long run how is it going to benefit your
43:30company each company has you know morals
43:33values um that we want to instill in our
43:36technicians if we can build our
43:38technicians students into the bcbas that
43:40follow those core values I think you
43:43already made your money back that's your
43:45return on
43:46investment honestly and I think um kind
43:49of speaking to that like when you do get
43:51homegrown bcbas like people who came up
43:53through your own through your own ranks
43:56um like
43:57there's blood in the ground like they
43:59they want to be there and like the the
44:01effort and the the passion for it is is
44:04bigger when you're doing it in your own
44:05house you know what I mean um a lot of
44:08times like I always use Sports metaphors
44:10when I'm teaching but um like you'll see
44:12like a coach who comes back to coach the
44:14team that he played for and those guys
44:16are like Perfect Analogy they're crazy
44:18they're crazy about it you know like
44:20like I'm I I have blood in the ground
44:22here like I want to I want to win and
44:23that's kind of the attitude I think you
44:25should be looking for like in in the
44:27bcbas that you get and that's not to say
44:29anything negative about like BCB cuz
44:32I've job hopped like I I switch I switch
44:34companies too it's not to say anything
44:35negative about that but there's just so
44:37much more investment when you were there
44:39like at the start and you you got to
44:41build it yourself and now it's like you
44:43have this great thing and you want to
44:44keep it that way you know your values
44:45align already whereas if you're taking
44:47someone from outside you not you don't
44:49necessarily know yeah and that's that's
44:51a great like that that internal growth
44:54is a great like thing I think for
44:56leadership like that's like a great goal
44:58for leadership to have because like
44:59you've cultivated this great culture and
45:01you've built this awesome thing um and
45:04you want to keep it that way like you
45:05want to see your baby grow up and be
45:07great succeed yeah absolutely that I got
45:10that question when we presented at BAM
45:12they were like how do we go about
45:14telling our the owner the upper
45:16management I was like you don't know
45:18until you try and you just got to come
45:19with you know some facts and some some
45:22positive things that it'll bring to your
45:24company so I I really think it's
45:25beneficial at least
45:28we're going to go ask some of our bcbas
45:30about their practicum experience come
45:32on hey Emily hi can you tell me
45:37something that you liked about your
45:38practicum experience I really liked how
45:41Hands-On I was allowed to get in my
45:43experience um there were only two of us
45:45going through school at the same time so
45:46I got a lot of really Hands-On like
45:48practical really useful experience and
45:51managing behaviors and writing goals I
45:54was really involved in parent meetings
45:56which is exciting
45:58cool cool what didn't you like about
46:00your practicum experience or what would
46:02you have changed um it wasn't the most
46:05structured there wasn't really like a
46:07layout of like now you do this and then
46:09this and there wasn't really a
46:10progression it was kind of just it kind
46:12of felt like we were figuring it out as
46:14we went so I think I would have liked a
46:15little bit more
46:16structure heard and then what do you
46:20want to do differently at Blossom to try
46:23and make ABA fieldwork and practicum
46:26more cohesive
46:28um I think just collaborating amongst
46:29all of us BCB on how we're presenting
46:31stuff to students I think we all do
46:33generally the same thing but we kind of
46:35do it a little differently so maybe
46:36making sure we're all a little bit more
46:38on the same page with like the natural
46:40progression of things awesome awesome
46:42thanks Emily all right let's go find the
46:44next
46:48one all right we're going to go talk to
46:50Aisha another one of our Blossom bcbas
46:53about their
46:54experience hi Aisha hi I was wondering
46:58what is something that you enjoyed about
47:00your practicum experience I really like
47:03to collab with a lot of different of the
47:05bcbas at my previous practicum plays
47:08they always gave me a wealth of
47:09knowledge and always came up with
47:12creative ideas to like Target certain
47:15well adaptive behaviors awesome what is
47:17something that you would have changed
47:19for your practicum experience I would
47:21have loved to like kind of run my own
47:23case independently well not necessarily
47:26independently but with my bcva and I
47:29would have loved to be able to like step
47:31in on parent meetings come up with a
47:33plan see it implemented and even come up
47:36with like treatment plans and see how
47:37program would run okay and for you being
47:41a practicum supervisor at Blossom what
47:44is something that you want to make sure
47:46that you do to enhance their experience
47:49actually kind of what I mentioned
47:51earlier about having practicum students
47:54you know kind of Take the Lead a little
47:55bit on cases and give giving them like a
47:57case that we can collab on and have them
47:59see their own like plan go into place a
48:02great idea thank you so much Aisha have
48:04a great day you all right let's
48:08go I wonder who's in
48:11here Katie one of our most recent new
48:15bcbas perfect hi Katie hey so Katie just
48:19became a bcba and she doesn't have a
48:21student yet but I just wanted to know
48:24what did you enjoy about your fieldwork
48:26experience as a student I really enjoyed
48:29having my own mini case load I think
48:32that helped me better understand what I
48:35would be walking into as a bcba awesome
48:37cuz it's a lot um what is something that
48:39you wish you had more of or you could
48:41have
48:42changed I wish I somehow had more time
48:45or had to work less so that I could um
48:49spend more time practicing to be a bcba
48:52awesome awesome and then when you do
48:54take on your first student what is
48:56something that you want to make sure you
48:58provide for your students I think I want
49:00to provide them with the opportunity to
49:03collaborate with
49:05me yeah okay awesome all right thank you
49:08Katie good luck when you do take your
49:10first student
49:15bye I see one of our current practicum
49:17students let's go talk to
49:20her hi Kelsey what are you enjoying
49:22about your fieldwork experience um I
49:25love being able to learn from from the
49:26bcbas on the floor awesome what is
49:30something that you wish you had more of
49:32or could change right now I wish I had
49:34more opportunities to attend assessments
49:36um like initials or reassessments
49:38awesome and how do you envision yourself
49:40as a practicum supervisor um I hope that
49:43my in the future my um supervises can
49:45see me as compassionate and caring love
49:48that okay thank you so much for your
49:49time welcome have a great
49:53day okay guys is there anything else
49:55that you think we missed regarding
49:57practicum experience that you want to
49:58touch on before we wrap up I would just
50:01say like the the big thing with kind of
50:03the last question that we asked about um
50:06like initiating this change is like you
50:08can't wait for other people to do it
50:09yeah you know like there's something to
50:10be said for being like a Pioneer doing
50:12this stuff um but more people do need to
50:15do it and maybe it just turned into a
50:17thing where like field work coordinators
50:18are collaborating across
50:20companies you know like that's that'd be
50:22really nice cuz the goal is kind of the
50:24same for all of us like it's to help the
50:26kids Vel the students help the field in
50:28general yeah you don't want to see
50:29anyone else fail just because that's
50:31your competition or whatever you know um
50:34so I think like that that'd be the big
50:36thing is just like be the initiator you
50:39know um be afraid to be the chain be the
50:42change don't be afraid to do that do
50:44things that are different and I think
50:46that's a good place to kind of talk
50:48about this is big systemic change that
50:51we're asking for and it's not going to
50:52happen overnight the field um like you
50:54said it's a brand new science still like
50:56yes we've been around for many years but
50:58in like the grand scheme of things it's
51:00really new so just getting the
51:02conversation started and encouraging
51:04other bcbas to like look into how we can
51:07improve the field yeah yeah but I want
51:10to note that our final code word for
51:12your cus is change Perfect all right
51:16guys well thank you so much for joining
51:18me today for having us fun yeah it was
51:21so much fun to talk with you I hope to
51:22have you guys back soon yeah and thank
51:23you everybody for
51:25listening talk to you later
51:28bye all right guys thank you so much for
51:30listening please don't forget to like
51:31And subscribe and if you want your ceu
51:34credits go to our website at Blossom
51:35children center.com talk to you later
51:38see you

About this transcript

This page contains the full transcript of Episode 10: Breaking Barriers in ABA: Elevating Practicum Experiences | FREE ABA CEU by Blossoming Together, generated from the public captions YouTube serves with the video. The transcript has 10,384 words across 1,421 segments, with the original timestamps preserved so you can click any line to jump to that moment in the embedded player.

What you can do with it

Use the transcript to take notes, quote the speaker, build a study guide, generate a summary with ChatGPT or Claude via the YouTube Summary tool, or export it as a timed subtitle file with YouTube to SRT. You can also re-open it in the transcriber to translate the transcript into 100+ languages.

Free YouTube transcript tool

YouTube2Text is a free YouTube transcript generator — no signup, no daily limit. Paste any YouTube link and get the full transcript instantly, with timestamps, click-to-jump, translation to 100+ languages, AI prompts for ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini, and exports to TXT, SRT, VTT, or Markdown.