Episode 1: Consequences of Secularism, Part I | Master's Program | PragerU — Transcript
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- 0:00If we don't get our rights from God, who
- 0:02do we get them from? Man. But guess
- 0:05what?
- 0:07If man gives you your rights, [music]
- 0:08man can take them away.
- 0:13[music]
- 0:18[music]
- 0:24>> [music]
- 0:39>> Hi, welcome to the Mast's program. I'm
- 0:41Dennis Prager. This is part one of what
- 0:44I call the consequences of secularism or
- 0:49to be precise the terrible consequences
- 0:53of secularism.
- 0:56So I'm sure you've all heard that some
- 0:58people are religious extremists.
- 1:08Have you ever heard of secular
- 1:10extremists
- 1:12or secular [music] extremism?
- 1:15No. And you know why? Because the
- 1:19general modern belief is [music]
- 1:21you can be too religious, but you can't
- 1:24be too secular. It's like being too rich
- 1:27or too happy or too healthy. You can't
- 1:31be too secular. But it's not true. If
- 1:34society gets too secular, it ends.
- 1:38That's right. It ends. It is the end of
- 1:41the civilization as we have known it, it
- 1:43is a catastrophe.
- 1:48First, I want you to understand I am not
- 1:50making the case here for the existence
- 1:53of God or for the truth of any given
- 1:56religion. I know that sounds odd, but I
- 1:59want you to understand this. I am
- 2:01appealing to your intellect, not to your
- 2:04beliefs, not to your theology or lack of
- 2:07theology. If you are an honest atheist,
- 2:11you can agree with every single thing I
- 2:13am about to say. And there are religious
- 2:15people who won't agree with everything I
- 2:17am about to say. Secondly, I fully
- 2:20acknowledge that there are wonderful
- 2:23secular people and there are some awful
- 2:26religious people. I fully acknowledge
- 2:28that. This is not an argument that there
- 2:30are no [music] good secular people or
- 2:33that all religious people are wonderful.
- 2:35That is not the argument because I live
- 2:37in the real world and I know that that
- 2:40would not be the case. Nor am I making
- 2:42number three, I am not making an
- 2:44argument for any one religion. If you
- 2:48understand the consequences of
- 2:49secularism and [music] then decide to be
- 2:52a committed Catholic, a committed
- 2:54Protestant Christian, [music] a
- 2:56committed Jew, a committed Mormon, I'm
- 2:58fine with that. I am not here to sell
- 3:01you a given religion. I'm not here to
- 3:04sell you anything.
- 3:06I'm here to convince you that the
- 3:09consequences of the death of the God of
- 3:13the Bible, the Judeo-Christian God, has
- 3:16been a calamity for civilization [music]
- 3:19and for people individually. I believe
- 3:21that every one of these arguments is
- 3:23unassalable. That's why I'm appealing to
- 3:25your intellect. I'm not trying to make a
- 3:27case for any given religion. I happen to
- 3:30be a committed Jew, but I'm I'm not here
- 3:32to to sell you on Judaism or
- 3:35Christianity. I'm just here to sell you
- 3:38on the certitude
- 3:41that it's been a calamity that God and
- 3:44the Bible have died [music] as operative
- 3:46elements in Western civilization. I'm
- 3:49also here to explain another thing. I'm
- 3:51only talking about the Judeo-Christian
- 3:52[music]
- 3:53world. I'm not talking about any other
- 3:55religious civilization, any other
- 3:56religion. By the way, I would welcome
- 3:59more secularism in in a place like Iran.
- 4:02I'm well aware of that. Between the
- 4:05Islamic extremism of Iran at the time of
- 4:08this video and a secular Iran, I would
- 4:12prefer a secular Iran. So, I'm not
- 4:14making the case for anything but the
- 4:16bases of Western civilization. They have
- 4:19been based on the God of the Bible, the
- 4:20Bible, Judeo-Christian values. How often
- 4:23have you heard, believe me, if you went
- 4:25to college, you heard this, more people
- 4:27have been killed in the name of of God
- 4:29or in the name of religion. And they're
- 4:31specifically usually referring to
- 4:33Christians killing all sorts of people
- 4:35and so on. Christians have killed people
- 4:38and they've done some terrible things.
- 4:40There's no question about that either.
- 4:42As a Jew, I particularly know that I've
- 4:44written, one of my books is on
- 4:45anti-semitism. It has a big chapter on
- 4:48Christian anti-semitism. [music]
- 4:49By the way, for the record, it has a big
- 4:51chapter on left-wing anti-semitism. It
- 4:54has a big chapter on Islamic
- 4:55anti-semitism. This has not been a
- 4:57monopoly of Christianity. But let me
- 4:59give you an example of how exaggerated
- 5:01things are. You know how often people
- 5:03give the example of the Spanish
- 5:07Inquisition. Oh, Christianity. Oh my
- 5:09god. The number of people that has
- 5:11killed the Inquisition and the Crusades.
- 5:14You know how many people were killed in
- 5:15the 250 years of the Spanish
- 5:17Inquisition?
- 5:19about 3,000. Now, every one of those
- 5:21deaths is a horror. That's true, but
- 5:24let's keep it in perspective. That's
- 5:26about 12 a year.
- 5:29That's that's not exactly uh what we
- 5:32call genocide.
- 5:34People don't know that though. The
- 5:36greatest genocides of the 20th century
- 5:38and indeed of of basically of history
- 5:41occurred in the 20th century. And
- 5:43virtually everyone was caused by a
- 5:45secular regime. How often have you
- 5:47learned that at high school or college?
- 5:50The answer [music] is never. They never
- 5:52tell you that. In fact, they probably
- 5:54don't even discuss these genocides.
- 5:57>> Yes, communism is responsible alone for
- 5:59about 100 million non-combatants,
- 6:03just civilians,
- 6:05being starved, tortured, shot, [music]
- 6:07beaten, frozen. Communism is a secular
- 6:10doctrine. It was an [music]
- 6:12anti-religious doctrine. The first thing
- 6:14that communist regimes did in in almost
- 6:17any country was to kill [music] the
- 6:18clergy. When Lenin came to power and
- 6:20then Stalin, Russian Orthodox priests
- 6:23were were murdered in the thousands.
- 6:26Churches were either converted into
- 6:28[music] some communist building or just
- 6:30destroyed.
- 6:32That's the first thing the communist
- 6:34regimes have done almost everywhere they
- 6:36took over was destroy religion. Nobody
- 6:39talks about that. It's as [music] if
- 6:41these 100 million people don't matter.
- 6:43You know, Stalin said, at least it's
- 6:46[music] attributed to Stalin.
- 6:48He said, "Oh, one death is a tragedy. A
- 6:52million is a [music] statistic."
- 6:56That's the problem.
- 6:58When I tell you a 100 million people
- 7:00were murdered by secular regimes,
- 7:03it's just a number.
- 7:10The human mind is not capable
- 7:13of appreciating the the staggering
- 7:16amount of suffering and evil 100 million
- 7:19[music] entails.
- 7:22So when you hear next time, oh religion
- 7:24has killed more people than anything
- 7:25else, it's just not true. It's a it's a
- 7:28lie. Actually,
- 7:30secularism has killed more people
- 7:32[music] than anything else. I'd like to
- 7:34read to you from Douglas Murray. Douglas
- 7:37Murray is not a religious man to the
- 7:39best of my knowledge. He's a major
- 7:40thinker, a British thinker, and he has
- 7:43written a very powerful work, the war
- 7:45against the West. The Christian faith
- 7:47has an uncommonly long tradition of
- 7:50opposition to slavery. [music]
- 7:52St. Bethilda was a former slave herself
- 7:55who campaigned for the abolition of
- 7:57slavery in the 7th century. [music] St.
- 8:00Anzel outlawed slavery in 1102 while
- 8:03Archbishop of Canterbury William
- 8:05Wilburforce and the Clappam sect spent
- 8:09all their energies and resources
- 8:11fighting to bring an [music] end to the
- 8:12practice inspired in this vision by
- 8:15their Christian faith. And again, I'm a
- 8:17Jew telling you this. I have no axe to
- 8:19grind here. My axe to grind is what is
- 8:22true. That's my biggest [music] axe just
- 8:24as a general statement. My beliefs, you
- 8:27got to tell the truth. So people talk
- 8:30about all the bad Christianity did, but
- 8:32you never learn of all the good that
- 8:33Christianity did. What is the world in
- 8:37which human rights were enshrined, where
- 8:39women were elevated from second class
- 8:42status? These developed in the west, the
- 8:45west was formed by Christianity which
- 8:47was ultimately formed by by the Jewish
- 8:50scriptures known as the Old Testament or
- 8:51the Hebrew Bible. It's why Margaret
- 8:53Thatcher said, "The West is a
- 8:55Judeo-Christian civilization. You drop
- 8:58the Judeo-Christian roots. You dropped
- 9:00this civilization. Slavery. Every
- 9:03society had slavery. Every
- 9:06in Africa, in Asia, in Latin America
- 9:10before it was Latin America, Meso
- 9:12America, South America, everywhere.
- 9:16Native Americans, [music]
- 9:17blacks, everyone had slaves. Muslims had
- 9:20an immense number of slaves. So the
- 9:23question is not who had slaves, not what
- 9:27country or nation or civilization had
- 9:29slavery. What nation or civilization
- 9:32abolished slavery?
- 9:34And the answer was the Christian or
- 9:37Judeo-Christian one of the West. That's
- 9:40what mature people will ask is the
- 9:42question. You don't ask how is any group
- 9:44like everybody else. You ask how were
- 9:48they different?
- 9:51And now on to consequences of
- 9:55secularism.
- 9:57Let's begin with numbers killed.
- 10:01If you care about human beings, why
- 10:03would you not care about what happens
- 10:05when you kill the fundamental bases of
- 10:09the idea that human beings are precious,
- 10:11which I'm going to come to. The very
- 10:13notion that human beings are precious is
- 10:16is a fairly rare ideal [music] which
- 10:19emanates again from the Judeo-Christian
- 10:21world.
- 10:23But if you care about people, you won't
- 10:26advocate a secular world.
- 10:30You could be angry at your, you know,
- 10:32the your Catholic nun who wrapped your
- 10:34knuckles. [music] You could be angry at
- 10:37at some rabbi who yelled at you or your
- 10:40grandmother when they were kids.
- 10:41>> [music]
- 10:42>> You could be angry at what some pastor
- 10:45did to to embezzle funds in a church. I
- 10:49mean all of that I understand. But you
- 10:51can't allow such ideas, such facts to
- 10:56cloud your vision. If you love humans,
- 10:59you can't love secularism.
- 11:03Secularism may be great for government.
- 11:05It's not great for society. It's not
- 11:08great for people's happiness.
- 11:09>> [music]
- 11:09>> I will come to
- 11:11it's an unhealthy idea.
- 11:15GK Chesterton, great British thinker,
- 11:18end of the 19th and the beginning of the
- 11:2020th century. I could not establish that
- 11:22he actually said this, but he's the one
- 11:25who it's often attributed to. Whoever
- 11:28said it, it's brilliant. When people
- 11:30stop believing in God, we're talking
- 11:32about the God of the West, the God of
- 11:35the Hebrew and and Bible and the New
- 11:37Testament.
- 11:39When people stop believing in God, they
- 11:42don't believe in nothing. They believe
- 11:45in anything. That is one of the great
- 11:48truths of our time. They believe [music]
- 11:51in anything.
- 11:56>> Have you noticed how much chaos is out
- 11:58[music] there today? Like defund the
- 12:01police. Religious people, you don't
- 12:04identify the idea of defund the police.
- 12:07an idea that only increases [music]
- 12:09human suffering. If you're a big fan of
- 12:12rape and murder and theft, [music] you
- 12:15should be an advocate of defunding the
- 12:17police. I can't think of a stupider
- 12:20idea. I can in fact think of many
- 12:22[music] ideas that are as stupid or if
- 12:24you will as absurd, but that's a big
- 12:27one. And this is all a function of the
- 12:31secular world in which we live. We
- 12:34become stupid as we depart from the
- 12:37wisdom bases of the west which are
- 12:40located in that book that people laugh
- 12:43at called the Bible. So let me give you
- 12:45a number of the absurd ideas to
- 12:48vindicate the line when people stop
- 12:50believing in God they don't believe in
- 12:52nothing they believe in anything. So
- 12:55here are a few. Men give birth.
- 13:00Men don't give birth. If men give birth,
- 13:03why do we only know this now? Why didn't
- 13:06all the scientists of history
- 13:09know that? Did we just discover that men
- 13:13give birth? How did they miss it for all
- 13:15of these centuries? How did every single
- 13:18great doctor and biologist of the past
- 13:21miss it? Isn't that remarkable? We've
- 13:24now discovered that men give birth. It's
- 13:26an absurdity. Do trans men give birth?
- 13:29Fine. So then say trans men. Don't say
- 13:31men. Be honest. But that's a very
- 13:34different story when you say trans men
- 13:36give [music] birth than if you say men
- 13:38give birth. Men do not give birth.
- 13:41Period. It's the secular [music] world
- 13:43that has enabled us to say such things.
- 13:46And the most absurdity.
- 13:48What else? Oh yes, it's fair to allow
- 13:51biological men to compete against women
- 13:54in women's sports.
- 13:57That is an absurdity.
- 14:00We all know it's unfair.
- 14:03We all know it. It's impossible to think
- 14:06clearly and think it is fair for a
- 14:08biological man to compete against women
- 14:10[music] in let us say track or in
- 14:13swimming. And yet we are supposed to
- 14:15believe it's fair.
- 14:19How about one of my favorite latinkics?
- 14:22Have you heard about that one? Yeah.
- 14:24That's the way the New York Times and
- 14:25and other secular institutions have
- 14:29decided to spell Latinos,
- 14:32people of Latin descent, not as Latinos,
- 14:35but as Latinx. L A T I NX. When I first
- 14:38heard it, I thought it was a Latin
- 14:40Kleenex.
- 14:42Latinx.
- 14:44[laughter]
- 14:45Think about that. Are there any Latinos
- 14:48who uses it? Do you think anybody in
- 14:50Argentina or Colombia or Brazil says
- 14:54latinks?
- 14:55What other absurdities of our time? Oh
- 14:58yes, here's a beauty. Racial segregation
- 15:01is anti-racist.
- 15:04Opposition to racial segregation is
- 15:07racist. Proof. Columbia University,
- 15:09which I attended. Columbia University
- 15:12has an all black dorm.
- 15:16An all black dorm. That's racial
- 15:18segregation, isn't it? Ah, are religious
- 15:22Christians [music] and Jews for that?
- 15:24No, they're not. Now, there are secular
- 15:26people who oppose it, but virtually
- 15:28everybody who who agrees with it is
- 15:31secular. And Colombia is totally [music]
- 15:34secular. It's profoundly anti-religious
- 15:36in its outlook. It has contempt
- 15:39basically for religious Christians and
- 15:42for that matter religious Jews. But
- 15:43religious [music] Christians are far
- 15:44more numerous.
- 15:46And if you oppose an all black dorm,
- 15:49you're the racist. The again, this is
- 15:52all just one consequence of secularism
- 15:56that we believe in anything. You know
- 15:58who believes in all black dormitories?
- 16:00[music] The Ku Klux Clan and the woke.
- 16:04That color of your skin is important.
- 16:07Why is it important? What does it tell
- 16:09about you? Tell me [music] one thing
- 16:11that the race of your skin tells me
- 16:13about you. Does it tell me if you're
- 16:14kind or cruel? Does it tell me if you're
- 16:17smart or stupid? [music] Does it tell me
- 16:19if you're honest or corrupt? Does it
- 16:21tells me about your passions, your
- 16:23loves, your pains, your hurts, your
- 16:26anything? What does it tell me about?
- 16:27Nothing. I know nothing about you if I
- 16:30know your skin color. [music] Nothing.
- 16:32It's as unimportant and perhaps less
- 16:35important [music] than your shoe color.
- 16:38Cuz there must have been a reason you
- 16:40chose the color of the shoes you're
- 16:41wearing today. That's another example of
- 16:44an absurdity in our post relligious age
- 16:48that [music] we live in. If America is
- 16:50systemically racist, and that's it's an
- 16:52absurdity, [music]
- 16:53but if it's true, why have 3 million
- 16:56blacks moved to the United States
- 16:57[music] of America in the last few
- 16:59decades from Africa and the Caribbean?
- 17:02Why are they stupid? If you think
- 17:04America is systemically racist, [music]
- 17:06every black who's moved here voluntarily
- 17:08is an idiot. Ask them, "Are you an
- 17:11idiot?
- 17:14No Jews moved to Germany in the 1930s.
- 17:16Correct. Not one. No matter how bad they
- 17:19had it in Eastern Europe, they didn't
- 17:20move to Germany because Germany was
- 17:22systemically racist.
- 17:24America is not systemically racist. It
- 17:27is the land of opportunity for people of
- 17:30every race, creed, color.
- 17:33Diversity is our greatest [music]
- 17:34strength. How often have you heard that?
- 17:36So, here's a beauty for you. If
- 17:38diversity is our greatest strength, why
- 17:40did the New York Times recently publish
- 17:42a piece [music] that said the happiest
- 17:45countries in the world are Finland,
- 17:47Norway, Denmark, and Iceland? They led
- 17:50the 2018 ranking of the World Happiness
- 17:53Report, [music] which is a joke. The
- 17:54World Happiness Report, it cracks me up.
- 17:57Anyway, fine. [music] So, you can't hold
- 17:59both. You can't say that Finland,
- 18:01Norway, Denmark, and Iceland are the
- 18:03happiest countries in the world and then
- 18:05tell me that diversity is our greatest
- 18:07strength because there's no diversity in
- 18:10those four countries and they're the
- 18:11happiest in the world. Virtually
- 18:13everybody is the same color. Virtually
- 18:15everyone's the same race. Virtually
- 18:17everyone is the same religion whether
- 18:18they believe in it or not, the same
- 18:20stock, the same language. They're as
- 18:22undiverse as you can get in the Western
- 18:25world, those four countries. And they're
- 18:27the happiest. I'm not against diversity
- 18:30at all. Diversity can be a great
- 18:33strength [music] if people share the
- 18:34same values. E pluribazunum one of the
- 18:37mottos of America out of many [music]
- 18:38one. Oh, if we all buy basic moral
- 18:43values emanating from Judeo-Christian
- 18:46values and is reflected in the
- 18:48Constitution of the United States, for
- 18:49example, I I think diversity [music] can
- 18:52be a tremendous strength,
- 18:56but not if it's used [music] to divide
- 18:58people as it now is and we don't share a
- 19:01common value system any longer. Next
- 19:03time you hear about the happiest
- 19:05country, you say, "Hm, they don't strike
- 19:07me as very diverse.
- 19:09free speech. Here's another absurdity. I
- 19:12This is all part of what happens with
- 19:14the secular [music]
- 19:16onslaught.
- 19:17People believe in anything. 45% of
- 19:20American young people say they don't
- 19:23believe in [music] free speech for hate
- 19:25speech. They believe in free speech,
- 19:27they say, but not for hate speech. They
- 19:30don't realize how foolish a comment that
- 19:32is. If you don't believe in free speech
- 19:35for hate speech, you don't believe in
- 19:37[music] free speech. What do you believe
- 19:40in free speech for love speech?
- 19:43And who determines what's the hate
- 19:45speech? You do. So you don't believe in
- 19:47free speech. Capitalism is evil. You
- 19:50can't get more absurd than that. People
- 19:53who say that don't really care about
- 19:55human beings suffering. Just like with
- 19:57the the genocide issue, people really
- 20:00don't care. The only thing that has
- 20:02lifted billions of people from abject
- 20:04poverty in the history of the world is
- 20:06capitalism. The only thing [music]
- 20:10the death of meaning. If there's no God
- 20:14who created the human being and who
- 20:16cares about the human being,
- 20:19there's no ultimate meaning to life.
- 20:22We're all a coincidence. That's all we
- 20:24are. [music] We die and for eternity
- 20:27we're in oblivion.
- 20:29We're here for a tiny tiny blink of an
- 20:33eye and then die and it's as if we
- 20:37didn't exist. If there is no God, and
- 20:40I'm talking again about the God of the
- 20:42Bible, if there is no God
- 20:46who created us and who cares about us
- 20:48and who dispenses [music] ultimate
- 20:50justice, there's no meaning in life. And
- 20:52by the way, every secular philosopher
- 20:54that I know of [music] has acknowledged
- 20:56this. If they were honest, there's no
- 20:58God. There's no meaning. Of course not.
- 21:01There's no ultimate meaning. You can
- 21:02make up a meaning. That's called
- 21:03existentialism because you can't look in
- 21:06the mirror in the morning and go, "How
- 21:07you doing, meaningless one?" You'll go
- 21:10crazy. People have to make up a meaning.
- 21:12[music] And some of them are beautiful.
- 21:14You'll have meaning in your work. You'll
- 21:15have meaning in being a mother or a
- 21:17father. You'll have meaning in being a
- 21:19good neighbor. There whole host of
- 21:21beautiful things that can give you
- 21:22meaning, but ultimately there's no
- 21:24meaning. You're no different from from
- 21:26[music]
- 21:27an ant. Do ants have ultimate meaning? I
- 21:30don't [music] think so. This is a major
- 21:33crisis because people seek meaning. The
- 21:36desire for meaning is greater
- 21:40than the desire for anything else in
- 21:42life other than food. It [music] is even
- 21:45greater than the sex drive. There are
- 21:48people who have voluntarily or even
- 21:49involuntarily in the case of some people
- 21:51who are widowed for example who do not
- 21:54have do not have sex but if they have
- 21:57meaning they can lead a happy life
- 21:59[music] but you could have all the sex
- 22:01you could even fantasize
- 22:04and if you don't have meaning in your
- 22:06life you're not going to [music] be a
- 22:08happy human being.
- 22:10The drive for meaning is the most
- 22:13intense. People ache for it. It was a
- 22:16given in the religious world that
- 22:18preceded our secular world.
- 22:21Not anymore.
- 22:28People seek meaning in the secular world
- 22:31that has been killed by the secular
- 22:33world.
- 22:36What they do is they make up substitute
- 22:38or secular religions.
- 22:41No more Christianity, no more Judaism.
- 22:43But that doesn't mean no more religion.
- 22:46Now it's secular religion.
- 22:48Feminism, science, [music] Marxism,
- 22:51socialism, communism, environmentalism.
- 22:55These are isms.
- 22:57They are like a religious doctrine. They
- 23:01are substitutes
- 23:02for the disappeared Christianity in most
- 23:06cases and Judaism [music] in in smaller
- 23:09number of cases.
- 23:12That's where people derive their meaning
- 23:14from feminism, socialism, Marxism,
- 23:17environmentalism.
- 23:19Oh, the environmentalist movement.
- 23:20[music] Oh, they have everything. They
- 23:22have a new god. Not the god of the
- 23:23Bible. It's Gaia, the goddess of earth.
- 23:28And not only that, they're saving the
- 23:29world. You can't get better than that.
- 23:31Yeah, that's what they believe. You will
- 23:34save the world if you go green. That it
- 23:37is the end of the world if we don't go
- 23:40green. I'm not denying that there is
- 23:42climate change. I'm not denying that the
- 23:44world is getting warmer. But yes, it's
- 23:46hysteria
- 23:48that we are on the brink of the
- 23:50extinction of biological species,
- 23:53including our own. But hey, once you
- 23:57acknowledge that, you have less meaning
- 23:59in being an environmentalist.
- 24:01I have a riddle I I made up a few years
- 24:03ago. What do you call a religious person
- 24:05who says the world is coming to an end?
- 24:09You call him a religious fanatic. What
- 24:12do you call a secular person who says
- 24:14the world is coming to an end? An
- 24:17environmentalist.
- 24:19They're both fanatics. The world is not
- 24:21coming to an end. But it gives you
- 24:24meaning to believe that it is and that
- 24:27you will save it by not using plastic
- 24:30straws and the like.
- 24:33[music]
- 24:34the death of human preciousness.
- 24:40[music]
- 24:42There's an irony about secular humanism.
- 24:46It doesn't do much to value the human.
- 24:50The Judeo-Christian [music]
- 24:52world gave us the biblical notion that
- 24:54we are created in God's image. That
- 24:56means every single person is of infinite
- 24:59preciousness.
- 25:05The human being is infinitely precious.
- 25:09This is dying
- 25:12in the post-Christian world in which we
- 25:14live.
- 25:20A writer named Julian Bagghini wrote in
- 25:23his book Freedom Regained that for many
- 25:26modern scientists, quote,
- 25:29consciousness is just the noise made by
- 25:32the firing of neurons. That's all we
- 25:35are. Please understand,
- 25:38you feel that you love your child or you
- 25:40love your husband or you love your wife.
- 25:43That's just firing neurons. [music]
- 25:47And if the secular scenario is true, God
- 25:51didn't make us. We just [music] evolved
- 25:54from we don't know from what because we
- 25:56have no idea how we got to organic
- 25:58matter, from inorganic matter. But let's
- 26:00[music] say you feel one day we'll know.
- 26:03Fair enough.
- 26:05But it's still it's meaningless. Every
- 26:08passion, every love, every deep emotion
- 26:11you have is just firing neurons. Or as
- 26:15the famous atheist [music]
- 26:16anti-religious scientist Richard
- 26:18Dawkins, human beings are just gene
- 26:22machines. That's it. You're a gene
- 26:24machine. At least he's honest. We're
- 26:26nothing more than a gene machine. We're
- 26:29[music] just stellar matter. The only
- 26:31difference between us and a pebble is
- 26:34that the pebble doesn't think it's
- 26:35important. We think we [music] are the
- 26:39pebble has no self-consciousness.
- 26:41We have self-consciousness.
- 26:46Human worth [music] is dependent
- 26:49ironically upon the existence of a God
- 26:53creator of us. Otherwise, we are nothing
- 26:59in terms of meaning and [music] in terms
- 27:01of specialness.
- 27:03We're not so special. We think we're
- 27:06special, but we're deliluding ourselves.
- 27:08But that specialness [music]
- 27:10came from being created in God's image.
- 27:15We are losing freedom.
- 27:18Freedom is a Judeo-Christian value. On
- 27:22the Liberty Bell, the iconic symbol of
- 27:24the United States of America, there's
- 27:27only one thing written [music] aside
- 27:28from the company that made the bell. one
- 27:31thing, a verse from the Torah, the first
- 27:35five books of the Hebrew Bible in
- 27:38Leviticus, which nobody knows today or
- 27:42unless they're religious. They knew
- 27:44their Bible, the founders of America,
- 27:46cuz that was their [music] book. That
- 27:48was Abraham Lincoln's book. He very
- 27:50rarely went to church, but his tome of
- 27:53reference was the Bible.
- 27:57On that bell, on the liberty bell, is
- 27:59this verse, "And you shall proclaim
- 28:02liberty throughout the land unto all its
- 28:05inhabitants."
- 28:06Leviticus 25. The United States, the
- 28:10freest country in the history of the
- 28:12world, the country to which France gave
- 28:15the Statue of Liberty, didn't [music]
- 28:16give it to itself, didn't give it to
- 28:18another country, gave it to America.
- 28:21That country was founded on the belief
- 28:24that God wants us to [music] be free.
- 28:27That's why the Exodus, the Jews leaving
- 28:30Egypt, and slavery was so central to
- 28:33American history.
- 28:35Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin [music]
- 28:36Franklin were not believers in the
- 28:39Christian Trinity. They were cultural
- 28:42Christians, but they were deep admirers
- 28:45of the Bible, which was the basis of
- 28:47their values. They made a design for the
- 28:51great seal of the United States of
- 28:53America. And it was the Jews leaving
- 28:55Egypt because they said like the Jews
- 28:57left Egypt, we left Europe. There was a
- 29:00complete identification with this
- 29:03yearning for freedom, [music] which by
- 29:05the way was quintessentially American.
- 29:08Human beings do not yearn to be free.
- 29:10That is a myth. Human beings yearn to be
- 29:13taken care of, which is the opposite of
- 29:16freedom. Even in the Bible, when the
- 29:18Jews got out of Egypt, within months
- 29:20they were yelling, "We want to go back.
- 29:21The food was better." Yeah. They
- 29:24preferred good food as slaves to mana in
- 29:27the desert. [music]
- 29:28Oh, it was better food back there. So
- 29:30what if we were slaves?
- 29:33By the way, that trade is made often.
- 29:36You give me goodies, government, and
- 29:38I'll give you my freedom.
- 29:42Most people don't yearn to be free.
- 29:44Judeo-Christian values yearn for
- 29:46freedom. The Bible yearns for freedom.
- 29:50And we have seen that during the
- 29:51lockdowns, the people who most
- 29:54accepted the draconian lockdowns were
- 29:57the most secular of the regimes or
- 30:00administrations or governments of the
- 30:02country like New Zealand and Australia
- 30:06and various states in the United [music]
- 30:08States. The more religious the state,
- 30:10the more it rebelled against the truly
- 30:13absurd lockdowns that took place that
- 30:15crushed children and crushed small
- 30:18businesses and crushed people's hopes.
- 30:22Freedom is another victim
- 30:26of the increasingly secular age. And you
- 30:29know why? Because the bigger the
- 30:32government, the smaller the God. or if
- 30:35you will, the smaller God is, the bigger
- 30:38the government is. Again, I'm talking
- 30:41about in the Western world, the founders
- 30:44of the United States, the people who
- 30:46most believed [music] in small
- 30:47government because they so believed in
- 30:49big freedom were the people who most
- 30:51believed that God is the author of our
- 30:55rights.
- 30:56God is the author of freedom. You get
- 30:59rid of God, I promise you, you will get
- 31:03rid of freedom. We are living through
- 31:05that right now. The consequences of
- 31:09secularism
- 31:10are huge
- 31:13and disastrous.
- 31:17So let me put it this way. In the west,
- 31:22the bigger the god, the smaller the
- 31:25state. The bigger the state, the smaller
- 31:27the god. If you love freedom, you cannot
- 31:31love the big state. The bigger the
- 31:33state, the less the freedom. That's a
- 31:35given. This shouldn't even be debatable.
- 31:38If you give a handful of people more and
- 31:41more and more power, you have less
- 31:43freedom. I that that's it's amazing that
- 31:46one would have to make this argument. It
- 31:48should be so self-evident.
- 31:52And what ensures a a smaller government
- 31:57is when people believe that there is a
- 31:59God to whom they are accountable. Cuz if
- 32:02you're not accountable to God for your
- 32:04behavior, then you will have to be
- 32:06accountable to people for your behavior,
- 32:08to [music] the state. So the bigger the
- 32:11God, the smaller the state, the more the
- 32:13freedom. That was the founding
- 32:15principle. Big God, little state in the
- 32:19It's not a theocracy. Has nothing to do
- 32:21with theocracy. Zero.
- 32:24It has to do with how people live their
- 32:26lives. In Washington's farewell address,
- 32:29he spoke about the religious foundations
- 32:32for a moral society. All the founders
- 32:35did. The chaos that we're seeing is a
- 32:38result of secularism. But people so
- 32:40believe in secularism, you are so taught
- 32:42from the earliest age [music] that
- 32:44religion is for dummies that the truly
- 32:47intelligent person is [music] just
- 32:48definitionally secular.
- 32:51Who needs this bearded man in the sky? I
- 32:54know it because I get all this email and
- 32:56I hear that so often. Oh, he believes in
- 33:00this uh this big uh big old man in the
- 33:02sky.
- 33:05That's that's how they think of it. The
- 33:07[music] big old man in the sky,
- 33:11not the creator of the human being who
- 33:13was endowed us
- 33:16with
- 33:17infinite [music] worth and with rights.
- 33:22Which brings me to death of greatness in
- 33:26art, music, and architecture. A
- 33:29celebration of the ugly. In fact, a
- 33:32celebration of poop.
- 33:36I'm very serious. You have no idea,
- 33:39unless you follow this subject as I do,
- 33:42how much scatological art there is in
- 33:47the last half century. Scatological
- 33:50means related to excretion. So there's a
- 33:54a a vast amount [music] of poop art, pea
- 33:57art, urine art, menstrual blood art, and
- 34:02the like. So one of the most famous of
- 34:05these was called piss Christ.
- 34:10Oh, this was already late 20th [music]
- 34:12century.
- 34:15And it was a jar with the quote unquote
- 34:19artist, the artist's urine. And in the
- 34:23urine was a crucifix.
- 34:26So it's titled inventively piss Christ.
- 34:32This thing went from museum to museum to
- 34:36museum around America. The most
- 34:40cherished symbol of Christians in a jar
- 34:42of urine. By the way, there's a very
- 34:45important side point to be made here.
- 34:48Can you imagine any artist in the West
- 34:52doing something equivalent
- 34:55with an illustration of Muhammad or a
- 34:58Quran? [music]
- 34:59Of course not. You know why? Because all
- 35:02of these anti- religious
- 35:06activists in [music] in the in the West
- 35:09are cowards. That's why they pick on
- 35:13Christians because they know they won't
- 35:14get hurt. They don't pick on Muslims
- 35:16because they know they probably will get
- 35:18hurt. Piss Christ was an example. This
- 35:21inventive idea. Brilliant. I tell you, I
- 35:24don't know. [music] This guy's guy's
- 35:26modern Michelangelo.
- 35:28So why is there so much
- 35:32urine [music] and turd in modern art?
- 35:37Because the ugly is beautiful and the
- 35:41beautiful is irrelevant.
- 35:43And that is all a function of the
- 35:45secular,
- 35:47no god, no religion, no [music] Bible
- 35:49world in which we live. There's nothing
- 35:53to elevate the artist to since there's
- 35:57nothing above the artist. [music] Music
- 36:00is my field outside of what you may
- 36:03associate me with. I conduct orchestras
- 36:06periodically. I'm very involved in
- 36:08classical music. I know a lot about
- 36:10classical music. So, I'll give you an
- 36:12example. Arguably the greatest composer
- 36:13[music] who ever lived, Johan Sebastian
- 36:16Bach, wrote for the glory of God on the
- 36:19manuscript of [music] every piece he
- 36:20ever wrote. So did Joseph Heayen, one of
- 36:23my three favorite composers, on every
- 36:25piece for the [music] glory of God.
- 36:28These people wrote music to elevate the
- 36:32human spirit [music] because there's
- 36:33something to elevate the human spirit
- 36:36toward, namely God. No God, no
- 36:39elevation. You get turds. And in music,
- 36:43you get a tonal cacophony, just notes.
- 36:48No melody, no harmony, no tonality
- 36:51notes. There's even one piece by a
- 36:54modern 20th century composer in the
- 36:56United States [music] where a person
- 36:58sits at a piano and plays nothing for
- 37:02those 4 minutes and whatever seconds.
- 37:04[music] Nothing. And then the audience
- 37:07applauds. This is considered deep. In
- 37:11the secular world, it is deep.
- 37:15at the Museum of Contemporary Art in
- 37:17[music] Orange County, California. They
- 37:20have in front of it or had, I don't know
- 37:21if they still do, but for a long time, a
- 37:24giant sculpture of a dog. And the dog is
- 37:28constantly peeing right [music] in front
- 37:31of the museum.
- 37:33How fitting. That's what that museum
- 37:37earned, a dog peeing on it.
- 37:43to think that [music] we once had a
- 37:44Michelangelo or a Bach.
- 37:47Of course, these people were infused by
- 37:50the elevating [music]
- 37:52belief
- 37:53that there is the creator above them.
- 37:57And [music] they would design things
- 37:59with that in mind.
- 38:02We don't have that anymore. Noise in
- 38:05music, ugly in art, and ugly in
- 38:09architecture.
- 38:10and they're celebrated.
- 38:13I want to catch the turd exhibit,
- 38:15though. Shouldn't miss that before
- 38:17[music] you leave this earth.
- 38:22If there's no God who says [music] do
- 38:24not steal, stealing isn't wrong. Same
- 38:27with murder. Same with any of the Ten
- 38:29Commandments or any commandment. This
- 38:31drives people crazy cuz I've done a
- 38:33video just on this and I and I saw the
- 38:36comments, none of which understood. I
- 38:38find it very
- 38:39>> the education system is so poor in our
- 38:42time. People don't even understand
- 38:44logic.
- 38:45I made the point and I do always and I
- 38:47made it in the beginning of this talk.
- 38:50There are some wonderful atheists. There
- 38:52are some wonderful [music] secular
- 38:54people.
- 38:55Of course, that's true.
- 38:58That's not my point. My point is that if
- 39:01there is no God who says do not steal or
- 39:03do not murder, stealing and murder are
- 39:06not wrong. That doesn't mean that people
- 39:08who [music] don't believe in God will
- 39:09necessarily steal and murder.
- 39:12Of course, you can think that [music]
- 39:13stealing is wrong and you can feel that
- 39:16murder is wrong if you don't believe in
- 39:18God, but it's just what you think and
- 39:20what you feel. It's your opinion.
- 39:22They're not objectively wrong. There's
- 39:25no objective moral truth if [music]
- 39:27there is no God. That's the whole point.
- 39:30It's not an attack. It's just a fact.
- 39:33Now, you'll say, "Well, but God doesn't
- 39:35exist." Okay. So, if God doesn't exist,
- 39:38then neither does objective morality.
- 39:42That's all I'm asking people to
- 39:43understand. But that's a big deal.
- 39:47It's a very big [music] deal. When you
- 39:49think that there is no objective
- 39:51morality, that it is all what you make
- 39:53up or your society makes up.
- 39:56Yes. That's when you can start robbing
- 39:58children of their sexual innocence
- 39:59[music] as they're doing now in in
- 40:02America and other English-speaking
- 40:04countries. Because you are the author of
- 40:06morality. If there is no God who is the
- 40:08author of right and wrong, then you are
- 40:11the author of right and wrong. Oh, but
- 40:13you'll say, "But I have a conscience."
- 40:15To which I will say, "So what?" Everyone
- 40:18who does bad has a conscience.
- 40:22That's
- 40:24it's amazing how much evil is done by
- 40:26people with clear consciences. The
- 40:29conscience is not a terribly powerful
- 40:31thing in [music] most people. I'm a big
- 40:33believer that there is a conscience. But
- 40:36if the conscience is not informed by the
- 40:38question, what does God want me to do?
- 40:41God doesn't want you to steal and God
- 40:43doesn't want you to murder.
- 40:46Then it's going to be a problem.
- 40:50[music] The death of objective morality
- 40:53is ultimately the death of morality.
- 40:55[music] When people, as they are now, as
- 40:58I speak to you,
- 41:01stealing in greater numbers than ever
- 41:03before, hold groups of kids just go into
- 41:06stores and wipe the shelves clean and
- 41:09take stuff away.
- 41:12[music]
- 41:13Do you think that they believe that
- 41:14there is a God who said, "Do not steal."
- 41:17I'll bet they don't.
- 41:21You will live a life differently if you
- 41:23believe God said, "Do not steal.
- 41:26Most likely there are people who may
- 41:28believe that and still steal. That's
- 41:30true. The human condition is very
- 41:33complex.
- 41:34I still will place my bet [music] that I
- 41:38will get better behavior on a person who
- 41:40believes
- 41:41that God said to him or her, "Do not
- 41:46steal." We know the consequences of
- 41:49religious extremism.
- 41:51We don't know the consequences of
- 41:54secular extremism. The real danger to
- 41:58survival of Western civilization. This
- 42:01whole thing, this whole project is in
- 42:04danger.
- 42:06When you tear flowers
- 42:08out of the soil that nurtured them,
- 42:12those flowers will die.
- 42:14We're tearing the flowers out of the
- 42:18Judeo-Christian soil that nurtured them.
- 42:23I'm Dennis Prager.
- 42:29[music]
- 42:36[music]
- 42:50>> [music]
- 42:51>> Heat.
- 42:56[music]
- 43:00Heat.
- 43:05Heat. [music]
- 43:11[music]
- 43:17[music]
- 43:20Heat.
- 43:23[music]
- 43:30>> [music]
- 43:39>> Hallelujah.
- 43:51Heat.
- 43:59[music]
- 44:06[music]
- 44:09Heat.
- 44:13[music]
- 44:15Heat. Heat.
- 44:19[music]
- 44:25[music]
- 44:33[music]
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