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0:00ultimate goal is to work myself out of a
0:02job like my I my thought is that I'm not
0:05always going to be in this learner's
0:06life so I want always write these social
0:08stories for them something that works
0:10for them yes exactly so I'm not always
0:12going to be there to write the social
0:13story for them so I try and teach
0:16parents like how I write social stories
0:19so I will help with them like learning
0:22how to use canva or PowerPoint cuz when
0:24you make social stories yes canva is a
0:25great tool that's what I love to use but
0:27you can use PowerPoint you can use like
0:29pictures and just write them yourself so
0:31I try and like promote ways that they
0:33can write them at home right and help
0:35generalize them I also will show
0:37families like on YouTube like I know
0:39that it's not the most individualized
0:41social story but on YouTube you can find
0:44like different topics whether that be
0:45like coping strategies or like doing a
0:48challenging task like going to the
0:50dentist or potty training like you can
0:53find some basic social story
1:00hey everyone welcome back to the
1:01blossoming together podcast today we're
1:03going to be talking about social stories
1:06all right so let's get right into our
1:08objectives the first objective is
1:10addressing barriers to effective social
1:12stories our second objective is evaluate
1:15digital social Story tools all right and
1:18make sure you're listening for our code
1:20words throughout the podcast today
1:23awesome all right usra so can you share
1:26your personal experience with using
1:28social stories in general so I feel like
1:31I've had like like I've WR written a few
1:34social stories I feel like no matter how
1:37many times you write them it feels a
1:38little like nerve-wracking each time
1:41it's mostly because you know they're
1:42supposed to be tailored to the client
1:43and like experience so I feel like
1:46you're never writing the same one over
1:48and over again versus like a lot of our
1:50programs we've written the same ones a
1:52few times versus a social story I feel
1:55like I've it's different for each kid
1:57each situation is like unique different
1:58you know even going to the den
2:00like I could write the same story three
2:02or four different times and each time
2:05it's going to look a little different
2:06right like the dentist office is going
2:08to look different for various kids or
2:10yeah or what what issues they have like
2:12what barriers they have at like the
2:14dentist office looks a little different
2:15for each kid so I feel like every time I
2:18write one it takes me way longer than it
2:20should I feel like it really triggers
2:22like our creative brain which I don't
2:24know I'm not that creative some days I
2:26can't find it no and I'll sit there and
2:28be like and I'll start looking for
2:29pictures and then I'll get a little
2:31Sidetrack yeah but that's my experience
2:34do you feel like you have like a good
2:35experience writing social stories yeah I
2:37feel like I've written a lot of social
2:39stories um like individualizing them I A
2:42lot of times will use like canva and try
2:44and like use pictures of the kids or
2:46like trying to um take like what coping
2:49strategies and stuff that they're
2:50working on like within our sessions and
2:52Implement them into the stories um but
2:55sometimes it's really hard or it's like
2:56I want to wait until the child has like
2:58mastered some skills before putting them
3:00into the social story but I'm like wait
3:02shouldn't I start the social story now
3:03and like we're kind of when to I I like
3:06the idea of doing them alongside each
3:08other yeah it's the most beneficial
3:11because then you can Target like say
3:13like your goal is for the child to
3:15imitate A coping strategy like taking a
3:17deep breath or counting to 10 you can
3:19use reading the story as the learning
3:21opportunity rather than a contrived
3:23opportunity and I always feel like you
3:24can pull it out and use it as a prompt
3:26too like here here these are coping
3:28strategies let's look in our book
3:30yeah that's great I love
3:32that um so I mean I guess we talked
3:35about our experience with it can you
3:36describe a little bit exactly what a
3:37social story is supposed to be used for
3:39so a social story is an individualized
3:41story that describes a spe specific
3:44social situation and circumstances does
3:47that make sense I forgetting anything
3:48you feel like I don't think so um
3:50individualized to like what is needed
3:52for the learner but you hit that and it
3:54looks different I feel like a lot of BCB
3:56now they'll use like canva PowerPoint
3:59like old school people are like drawing
4:02pictures for their clients right yeah or
4:05like even I found that a lot of um
4:08clinicians were having to just like they
4:10didn't have the time to get individual
4:11or creative with the social story so
4:13they just print one that already existed
4:15right um which is like use our resources
4:17but but that sucks too cuz it's not
4:20individualized yes like some of the best
4:22social stories should incorporate like
4:24that child themselves like even like a
4:26picture of them or their preferences or
4:28their interests like having something
4:30they find interesting in the social
4:32Story one of my supervisors had like
4:34given me a tip like if you have a client
4:36like a lot of our clients love numbers
4:38and letters like having those just in
4:40the corner for like the pages like
4:42something interesting for them to look
4:44it's like the decoration of the page
4:46looks good and that'll we'll talk about
4:48a little bit more later but like some of
4:49those prerequisite skills that increases
4:51the attending of the book If like a
4:52child's not interested in them they're
4:54not going to like look towards it and
4:56things like that I can see that so what
4:59are the best benefits of using a social
5:00story um you know social stories have
5:03are used to like increase communication
5:05skills they're a good modeling tool um
5:08you know they're very like we've talked
5:10about probably three times already it's
5:11like customizable and
5:13individualization um and they're really
5:15good at promoting generalization right
5:17because you can um work on something at
5:19the center so many times but if it's in
5:21a story you can like talk about it in
5:23different settings and take that story
5:24to like a different setting as well and
5:27you would have the same Lang like I feel
5:28like I love it is all also helps the
5:31families keep that consistent language
5:33if we've practiced something and we've
5:34used that verbage we can put it in the
5:36social story for the family to go home
5:38and take with them I agree like that I
5:40think that's a really good benefit too
5:42um when you're thinking about a social
5:44story like an ideal social story you're
5:46going to make what are the key
5:47components you're looking for so that
5:49the Lang that the language be that what
5:52the child can understand so not writing
5:55it like don't write a novel for like a
5:58two or threey there's no paragraphs
5:59there's no paragraphs that's like keep
6:01the language very simple write it in the
6:03perspective of the learner or the child
6:06so we don't need to be like Johnny like
6:09if your client's name is like Kenny
6:10don't be writing a story about Johnny
6:13yeah exactly oh I like that so
6:14individualizing it to the perspective of
6:16the child when I'm thinking of that I
6:18like to look um you can do it either in
6:20like first or third person so it can
6:22either be in the perspective of like I
6:24use I take a deep breath or it can be in
6:27like your learner is Johnny Johnny takes
6:29a deep breath um and I like like
6:31altering the perspective depending on
6:32like what's going to benefit the client
6:34I like that too and one other thing is
6:36using visual supports within your story
6:38so if you're writing like you're using a
6:40story that you've like made in canva or
6:42PowerPoint making sure you have pictures
6:45that are fun that associate with the the
6:48story you know and you know like
6:50thinking about if you're using clip art
6:52pictures like does it kind of match like
6:53the child's this is something that's
6:56really hard like it culturally
6:58culturally you know I was writing a
7:00social story for one of my clients like
7:02literally 3 weeks ago and he is
7:04African-American and like looking for
7:07pictures that to like use resemble that
7:09child was so difficult I kept finding
7:12little like blonde kids or like little
7:14like you know white kids kids but I
7:17could not find like a boy that looked I
7:19found one picture and it was just like
7:21it didn't have anything to do with the
7:22story it's so frustrating it's
7:25discouraging it's discouraging and it's
7:26like I'm not that good at like using
7:29you're like going to create your own
7:30clip art my own clip art but like and
7:33like try then you would have to pay for
7:34it like I found something where I'd have
7:36to pay like $10 $20 to get more people
7:39which is sad like come on let's just
7:40broaden the demographic yeah like it
7:42should be easier to find some clip art
7:44pictures that represents everyone I
7:46found like sometimes when I run into
7:48those challenges I um like I'll take a
7:50picture of the client themselves and put
7:52them into the book because that's not
7:55fair for them to like be reading a story
7:56that's not going to relate to themselves
7:57and I feel uh I don't have like the stat
8:00on me or like but like one of the things
8:04that you should be looking for for like
8:05IM like the mo like sorry that's okay is
8:09that the like the photo should represent
8:12like the client for like when you're
8:13doing like modeling modeling skills it
8:16should be like closest like close in age
8:18to the client resemble like the features
8:21of the client St of that sort I think
8:23that's honestly like it should be the
8:26standard is it should be able like we
8:28should be able to do that easily awesome
8:30all right so what is your typical idea
8:33of a social is your typ is your typical
8:36idea of a social story a book with
8:38pictures or you using something else I
8:40think you know what actually before we
8:42get into that I want to give our first
8:44code word for our cus just so I don't
8:46forget so code word number one is going
8:49to be moving m o v i n g moving all
8:53right so let's get into the next part is
8:56the barriers to social stories yes
9:00so there are a lot of barriers when
9:02implementing a social story so like
9:04social stories are great for some
9:06Learners and we should really really use
9:08them but I find that barriers is like
9:11one does the child that you want to
9:13write a Social story for have the
9:15ability to attend to a book for up to
9:19five minutes that's a hard one if we
9:21don't have that skill we need to work on
9:22that skill first like let's increase
9:24attending prior to introducing it
9:25because we don't want to spend like we
9:27said this is a resourceful time like
9:29activity it takes a lot of our time to
9:31make a social story so we don't want to
9:33be working on this if they don't have
9:34the skills to like attend to it right um
9:38something else is I want them to be able
9:40to follow simple instructions because a
9:42lot of times the social story is going
9:43to have like basic instructions in there
9:45what to do when you're in that situation
9:47right yeah exactly or even like just
9:49getting them to come sit for the like
9:50they should be able to like say come
9:52here let's sit um and follow
9:54instructions that leads to that
9:55attending um and I want them to have an
9:58a general interest in books like if this
10:01child if your learner hates books maybe
10:04a social story isn't the best for them
10:06right so if a social story like a book
10:10written social story isn't like the best
10:12tool for them what can we do yeah I so I
10:15think when we typically think of social
10:16stories we're thinking of these um like
10:19little pamphlets with like words and
10:22pictures paired along them but there are
10:24other ways that we can model social
10:26stories right so one way I really love
10:29video modeling have you used it in the
10:31past so I haven't necessarily used it
10:34for any clients per se but it was like
10:37one of my last projects before I became
10:39bcba and one of the barriers was it was
10:42hard to go and make like these videos
10:45and you know what we tried to do is
10:47instead of adults being the models we
10:49wanted other children to be the models
10:52and you know if I could do it again I
10:53probably would have had like a younger
10:55sibling that could follow my
10:58instructions my models but I don't know
11:01I thought maybe like clients in the
11:02center I was going to say yeah so you
11:04using clients in the center as your
11:05models I mean some of them could model
11:07were but then like getting consent forms
11:09and all that was really hard I feel like
11:11I should do it we need to do it again
11:14maybe find some like models that are
11:16easy to like that can follow
11:18instructions the parents approve that
11:21make videos for that would make it a lot
11:23easier right so like with these video
11:24modeling there's like different formats
11:26of them so like a um you could have like
11:28simp video models where it's just like a
11:32couple like two three actions and two
11:34three sentences and just a very short
11:36video model or you can have like the
11:38whole story is like acted out like in
11:41scenarios but those are tricky to find
11:43like those resources don't totally exist
11:45yet and there I went on YouTube and like
11:48before we like started searching this
11:49and I just wrote social stories for like
11:51going to the dentist and what was kind
11:53of in like I didn't see any video models
11:55but I saw a lot of like social stories
11:57just being read aloud so wonder if a lot
11:59of like the resources just look like
12:01that right I think they do so it's like
12:04it's the same one that we're thinking of
12:07but just in a video form which is
12:09beneficial um in a sense like because it
12:12makes it more accessible to families but
12:14it's like we're not getting to that like
12:15video model no some things that I've
12:18done in the past is if a child has like
12:20some skills that we're working on at the
12:22center and they're mastering them I
12:23don't know if you've ran into this your
12:24child is mastering skills at the center
12:26but then they like the parents like oh
12:28my gosh they will not do at home like
12:30they are really struggling I'll use the
12:32learner themselves to create their
12:34social story um it has to be a learner
12:37who has these um like learning they're
12:40at that stage of learning where they can
12:41like follow those instructions and kind
12:43of like model it out for you but some
12:45I've had a learner who like they really
12:46loved like taking pictures of themselves
12:49and watching videos so we would like
12:51take videos of them completing like the
12:53tasks at the center and then they would
12:56show them that at home and they were
12:58able to like replicate that as their
12:59video model or their video social story
13:01it's amazing and I love that idea I feel
13:03like I've never thought of it I'm
13:05definitely going to use it going forward
13:06I hope so um so when you're like working
13:10on social stories what do you typically
13:11think of I feel like I typically think
13:14of like you know the written books okay
13:16you know and like I've always feel like
13:18I some things I've started doing is like
13:20for games and stuff specific I've been
13:22youtubing like the game like I wanted to
13:24teach like one of my clients to play Red
13:26Rover so I just youtubed Red Rover found
13:29like young kids just like act like
13:31telling the rules and acting out the
13:33games with them themselves so that's
13:35what I'm thinking of when I like think
13:36of video social yeah see I like to shift
13:39sometimes like I think video social
13:41stories are really great but I think
13:44that what I enjoy more is just like that
13:46video model as a learning tool more than
13:49the social story itself because when you
13:51think of videos a lot of our Learners
13:54love their tablets they love YouTube so
13:56it's something that they are generally
13:57already interested in so getting them to
14:00like look at the screen is much easier
14:01so I use like a video model it doesn't
14:03necessarily have to be um like a written
14:07out story story and I think that's where
14:08it gets a little confused because when
14:10we think of social stories we're like oh
14:11well we need to use that like same ver
14:13like that language and put it in the
14:14story versus like with the video model
14:16it just could be like the scenario acted
14:18out yeah exactly and I think there are
14:20benefits to both and it's that's why our
14:22treatment and ABA like we want so
14:23individualized so individualized we
14:25really want to focus on that so like we
14:27can some Learners might benefit best
14:29from a written out social story but
14:30other Learners might need a video model
14:32instead and I think about how many time
14:35I don't know how many times you've been
14:36at the center and you've written like a
14:37social like a written social story and
14:38how many times it gets lost yeah oh my
14:41gosh where like I have coverage
14:42technicians and they like misplace it
14:44and then the next day they come in
14:45they're like well has anyone seen it
14:47then getting it printed and laminated
14:49again is hard oh my gosh the material
14:51the loss of materials is one of my
14:53biggest big barrier it's a barrier to me
14:56it's a barrier to the family it's a
14:57barrier to the technician yeah and it's
14:59even harder I feel like when I send a
15:00social story home oh my gosh yeah like
15:02the dog ate it siing in backpack and
15:06it's like I so I feel like when you have
15:08it on your phone or on your tablet you
15:10can use it anywhere and like you're not
15:13losing it the chances of you losing it
15:15are very slim unless it gets deleted
15:17then deleted again and it's like but
15:18you'll always have a backup which and
15:21it's easy to send you don't have to
15:22laminate it you don't have to print it
15:23out he like okay you lost it here let me
15:25just email it to you again yeah no I do
15:27like having um like the video model on
15:29the phone and then even like that social
15:30story like that's the benefit of the day
15:33and age we're living in is we have
15:34technology so let's utilize it to our
15:36advantage all these tools that are here
15:38to our benefit while we were doing some
15:40of the research right like uh like I was
15:43like what resources are there for like
15:46families and one interesting thing I was
15:48like was that
15:50sofa you read the sofa article right so
15:53there's an app called the sofa and it's
15:56supposed to be in theory in theory it's
15:59supposed to make the writing social
16:01stories and accessing social stories a
16:03lot easier but when I I downloaded it so
16:08what what did you find the barriers to
16:10using the app were well I felt like it
16:12just it lagged a little which like
16:14whatever it's like under construction
16:16probably it was like a little boring
16:19like you know and I felt like I thought
16:21I was going to get an app with like cool
16:23anim like it's an app so I thought there
16:25would be like animation stuff even clip
16:27art like individual part and stuff and
16:30you know it wasn't it was kind of boring
16:32fny let me like pull up like what the
16:34like the data showed right the
16:36implications or the findings were that
16:38highlighted the benefits of digital
16:40stories over traditional methods due to
16:42its accessibility customization options
16:45and the ability to collect valuable user
16:47data to improve intervention strategies
16:49okay but you know when I downloaded it I
16:52didn't feel that way but you know I
16:53trust our
16:54data valid data is valid so I wonder if
16:58even just writing like social stories
17:00like on apps and stuff that's what I was
17:02going to say so like maybe there's a way
17:03that we can like replicate the way that
17:05the sofa app the theoretical way that it
17:08was supposed to be used like maybe using
17:09canva can you talk about like when you
17:11use canva how you best format your
17:13social stories for your learner I always
17:16I make it a PowerPoint because I feel
17:17like when I make it a PowerPoint it
17:19prints easy you can print it in the
17:22multiple pages I can make it any size I
17:24want I can make it a full page or I can
17:25make four slides to one page where it's
17:27like maybe this size
17:29and then I feel like after that wait was
17:33I going with this canva how do you use
17:35canva what are your strategies so those
17:37are my key strategies and then I'll try
17:39to like make it fun exciting try to use
17:42like client's favorite colors try to use
17:45real pictures I do like I mentioned
17:48before like the numbers on the bottom if
17:49they're interested in numbers if there's
17:51if I'm writing like about stuff like no
17:55like the word no or like no don't do
17:57that that's not good I Tred to use the
17:59color red for like the it's a prompt
18:02like red is no like stop and then I try
18:04to use green sometimes for like the
18:06things I want them to I like that so
18:08you're individualizing like the phrasing
18:10and then that probably draws the like
18:12one the learner's attention to it but
18:14the reader too so that they know like to
18:16emphasize like if you're sharing it with
18:18a parent they can now know like this is
18:20how to emphasize this area and I do like
18:22the Bold sometimes like read this like
18:24that uh some other things I will do is I
18:27try to keep the font really simple and
18:30on canva you can get real wild you can
18:33get wild but we don't need to this is
18:34the time let's keep the font simple what
18:36we want to get across is those images
18:38because that's what's going to draw the
18:39Learner in and we want to like focus on
18:42the Simplicity of the language and the
18:44font as well do you have any suggestions
18:46for when you do it I feel like you're
18:48good at this you're like a social story
18:49Queen I love social stories honestly
18:51I've learned a lot of my tips from um
18:53we've mentioned Jenny before we Jenny
18:55just on just we just need to bring Jenny
18:57on once um so she at she was a student
19:00and created a social story for me at one
19:02point on um flying in the airplane oh
19:05did she she like can Photoshop guys she
19:08like will Photoshop the did she
19:09Photoshop the kid and she yeah so there
19:11was like an airplane and it has like the
19:13four windows and then there's like a
19:15little circle and she put the client's
19:17face in the circle and it was like he
19:19was flying in the airplane and so I've
19:21learned a lot from her I always joke
19:23with her that she should like just start
19:24selling them on Teachers Pay Teachers
19:26because her social stories are just
19:27fantastic I honestly speaking on her
19:30still like I remember she wrote a social
19:31store for like going to bed and she had
19:34like the nighttime sky with like stars
19:36and like in the moon she put like the
19:38little client's head that's really know
19:40I was like we used to look at it just
19:41like how cute is that so yes so I
19:44learned a lot from her like I like she
19:46made me one as um she was working on
19:48like a student project for me and so
19:50then I like took it I was like oh my
19:51gosh I need to duplicate this for my
19:52other like social story so now I'll
19:54start doing that so in canva you can
19:56select like shapes to with an image so I
19:59will always now put the client's face
20:01into the social story we should you know
20:04what we should we should have write her
20:05write or you write a task analysis on
20:07how to use canva to do this you know
20:10what that'll be a resource that we'll
20:11put in the description great
20:13idea um so I really I like to do that I
20:16too like to individualize the language
20:18something that I think um gets not
20:22really thought about is like let's not
20:24make this story super long and lengthy
20:27like to get your point across 15 SL like
20:2915 pages no I usually keep it between
20:31four and five because that's what my
20:33learner is going to attend to and like I
20:34try and keep one to two pages about
20:36preference activities and items and then
20:38like then I'll get to like the learning
20:40topic if that's like the hard part of
20:42flying in an airplane or like the
20:43negative part of being in the potty like
20:45I don't want the negativity to like
20:47overwhelm the whole story like I want to
20:50have some preference in there because
20:51we're trying to pair this activity and
20:53the learner with like the uh concept
20:55itself and their preferred activities
20:57too yeah I like that yeah all right so I
21:01have a code word I have my second code
21:04word is going to be dentist I've written
21:07so many stories about dentists how do
21:09you promote your like social stories or
21:11how do you train parents to implement
21:14social stories at home yeah so I
21:17typically will start like I'll make
21:19social stories for my families initially
21:22so I will make the social story and I
21:24try to bring parents into a training or
21:27a parent meeting where observe the um
21:30like either me or the technician
21:31utilizing the social story but my
21:33ultimate goal is to work myself out of a
21:35job like my I my thought is that I'm not
21:39always going to be in this learner's
21:40life so I want I can't always write
21:42these social stories for them something
21:44that works for them yes exactly so I'm
21:46not always going to be there to write
21:46the social story for them so I try and
21:49teach parents like how I write social
21:52stories so I will help with them like
21:55learning how to use canva or PowerPoint
21:57cuz when you make social stories yes
21:59canva is a great tool that's what I love
22:00to use but you can use PowerPoint you
22:01can use like pictures and just write
22:04them yourself so I try and like promote
22:06ways that they can write them at home
22:08right and help generalize them I also
22:10will show families like on YouTube like
22:12I know that it's not the most
22:14individualized social story but on
22:16YouTube you can find like different
22:18topics whether that be like coping
22:20strategies or like doing a challenging
22:23task like going to the dentist or potty
22:26training like you can find some basic
22:27social stories that can grow with them
22:29as they get older like going to the
22:30grocery store paying at the grocery
22:32store of that sort so I find those
22:34things on YouTube so I show parents
22:36where to find these resources so that
22:37they can utilize them when I'm hopefully
22:40not there for them like they graduate
22:42from us and they I want them to be able
22:43to use these resources still and it's
22:45important that the parents know that
22:47there should be a clear objective to the
22:48social story too right you know so yeah
22:51can you speak a little bit on
22:52that we want to make sure that you have
22:55a clear objective meaning you're either
22:57like teaching a new you're working on
22:59like showing them what the new
23:01environment may look like stuff of that
23:03sort yes so like the learning yeah like
23:05you said the learning objective has to
23:06be clear so what you are trying to gear
23:09this towards that should be the main
23:11focus and it has to like be within that
23:13story right all right and then do you
23:16feel like so you train them on where to
23:18find the resources kind of how to read
23:20them how to read them to the learner
23:22when to use them so like I'll write it
23:24within my behavior plan as like one of
23:26my behavior plan goals for parents a lot
23:27of times be the proactive strategy it's
23:30a proactive strategy so parent will
23:32introduce um social story once per day
23:35for five you know days in a row or
23:37whatever is reported by parent so that
23:39they know how to use the social story
23:41throughout the day we don't have to be
23:42providing and we don't need to listen to
23:43it every five minutes I was going to say
23:46like don't present it 30 times a day
23:48because then it's going to become
23:48aversive so like I'm yes teaching them
23:51like when to use it and how to use it um
23:53how to create their own um and then
23:56where to find other resources because
23:58sometimes you don't have time to like
23:59write a whole social story we did say
24:00it's a res A busy life exactly all right
24:04so before we end what's your favorite
24:06social story Ben that you've written or
24:08that you've read my favorite social
24:10story that I have written I did one on
24:13sharing toys with a sibling and I really
24:15liked that one um that my learner really
24:18enjoyed it it had him and his brother in
24:19it so he liked like and he labeled him
24:22and his brother's name and like it had
24:24all toys that they really enjoyed in
24:26there so it was just really fun the
24:27learner was really interested in it so I
24:29liked that one my favorite one was
24:32riding one about going to the airport
24:34and riding an airplane because the
24:36parents actually got to go like in our
24:38area we have the like the airport event
24:41where they families can go beforeand
24:44what's it called I forget what it's
24:45called I feel it's coming up in the next
24:46few weeks we'll we'll link it down below
24:48or yes there's one in Michigan so I had
24:50the family go to that before and they
24:51took pictures of everything in the plane
24:54and in the airport and then they sent it
24:55to me and I put it in their social he so
24:58ready by the time it was time to go and
25:01he with he was so excited that's so cute
25:04I love that all right and then one last
25:07code word before we end right our final
25:09code word for the day is actually plane
25:11ride it goes hand in hand with your
25:12story all right everyone thank you for
25:15listening we'll see you guys next
25:19week all right guys thank you so much
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