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0:00hey guys we wanted to just make a quick
0:02announcement and instead of doing the
0:04quiz this week for your ceu we are going
0:07to do code wordss so throughout the
0:09episode keep an ear out for three
0:11different code words and fill them into
0:13the link below now let's dive into
0:15episode three hey guys welcome back to
0:17the blossoming together podcast today
0:19we're kind of going to be talking about
0:21new tips for new bcbas so Cen do you
0:24kind of want to start talking about your
0:26practicum experience yeah um I had a
0:29pretty
0:30I loved my practicum experience I I
0:32think we talked a little bit in the past
0:34I really advocated for what I wanted
0:36from my practicum experience um it
0:38started off really handson um like I
0:42wanted to acquire a lot of skills early
0:44on so like assessments and stuff um and
0:46just get involved in parent meetings and
0:49just really big hands on projects but
0:51then Co happened so how how far along
0:54were you before Co I was my first
0:57semester so like my first semester was
1:00in person and then I like did my
1:01practicum and then Co hit right so then
1:03I became a CO like student and I it
1:07really it kind of sucked because I I
1:09really did love Hands-On learning and
1:11then I like my Center shut down but I
1:13was still collecting my hours so I was
1:15really just working on like program
1:17writing and report writing which I felt
1:20already skilled in and I wanted to like
1:22get more Excel you wanted more yeah I
1:24wanted more I wanted to like learn those
1:26little tricks and things that you needed
1:28as a bcba whereas like I didn't want to
1:30just keep working on the same thing over
1:32and over again and like I'm really glad
1:34I got skilled in those things but I
1:36needed more not just ch Out
1:38hours get some kind of experience out of
1:41it use yeah the 1500 hours like in
1:44theory you're supposed to be getting all
1:45the knowledge that you need to become a
1:47bcba but I felt like I was just doing
1:49things to meet the hours rather than
1:51like getting quality time from it yeah
1:54well so do you feel like at the end you
1:56were able to get that cuz you went back
1:59right yeah went back for the end of I
2:01think it was the last maybe last two
2:03semesters of my practicum experience so
2:06then I did go back and I really really
2:08during that time I had to like cram
2:09everything I wanted to know in during
2:11that period how long did it how long did
2:13you have to cram I think it was three
2:15months before so I finished yeah I
2:18finished my cour work before um you
2:21finished your hours I did my hours at
2:23the same time finishing my coursework
2:25but I had three months before I was
2:26taking I like set aside three months so
2:28that I could study for the exam so I had
2:30like three months to finish up
2:32everything that's hard though it was
2:34really hard because you feel like you
2:36have almost a year usually get all your
2:39hours and it's spread out you know you
2:41start with kind of the easier stuff and
2:43you work your way up to the harder
2:45things like most of your time was spent
2:47doing kind of that level one practicum
2:50experience I did a lot of level one
2:52stuff pretty much the entire entirety of
2:54my experience and then yeah I had to do
2:56like level two and three stuff which
2:58well you turned out good thank you I'm
3:00glad you see it so for me I actually did
3:03before I started my Ms I did the little
3:06a program at my school so I collected
3:08fieldwork hours for that so I did a
3:10thousand and that when I did that I
3:12didn't know what I was doing did my
3:14supervisor so we're all learning
3:16together we're all learning so
3:18essentially I was just writing programs
3:19and keeping up with like program books
3:21yeah exactly you know my Center we
3:23didn't have parent trainings that often
3:25so I never sat in on one projects were
3:28very limited most just staff training
3:31yeah and then that was really all I got
3:33and I got a thousand hours of that oh I
3:35forgot to mention we we're doing
3:37assessments but one really weird thing
3:39about where I was the bcba never sat it
3:42on them maybe once when they trained you
3:44how to run a VB map but after that the
3:47students were allowed so I used to run
3:50like is that ethical I don't know if
3:51it's ethical it's not ethical but no but
3:55you know that's what we did and I would
3:56write the and they never gave me
3:58feedback oh gosh and you know it's just
4:02in the air I don't know so with the
4:03bcaba I so I didn't go that route I just
4:06went straight for the bcba um how many
4:09hours did you do like for so you did the
4:12Thousand hours for bcaba when you went
4:14to do hours for bcba how many more hours
4:16did you have to acquire so I didn't I
4:18never took the BCA exam so I just
4:20essentially started over when I did bcba
4:23and my school also lost its
4:24accreditation that's why I never sat for
4:27the bcaba exam it was a lot of work
4:30like you had to sit and like send in all
4:32your syll it was a whole process one of
4:33my friends did it but it took almost a
4:36year to sit for the exam that really
4:38stinks that stunk and I was like that's
4:39not what I want to do I didn't have this
4:41big well-rounded experience where I felt
4:44like I could have even been good at my
4:46job so then I came to where I work now
4:49and as said one of the first practicum
4:51students there as well so they came up
4:53with the candidate role when I start
4:55kind of a few months after I started and
4:57I felt like even though it was new I got
4:59a pretty good experience and know last
5:01time I mentioned you know parent
5:03trainings I didn't get to sit on but I
5:05helped with staff training I got to do
5:07mock supervision I had a lot of support
5:09from my supervisors that tried to teach
5:11me as much as they knew it was a big
5:13difference J so I felt like I was a
5:15little more prepared when I went into
5:17the bcba role can you tell us a little
5:20bit about so I didn't do my practicum
5:21experience where we are now what is that
5:23candidate role look like the candidate
5:26role when I was a student looked like
5:27you had 15 hours of time to do indirect
5:30work sure So within the indirect work we
5:32were training staff we were writing
5:35program essentially the the bcba kind of
5:38picked what you were working on at that
5:39point this is before we had the
5:41checklist okay so it kind of would be
5:43like my supervisor would be like okay my
5:46clients need XYZ can you do this and it
5:48was never something where they would
5:51give you a task you put in they help
5:53build on it it started with the easier
5:55stuff it started with program writing
5:56helping with assessments and led into
5:58more detail things like writing Behavior
6:01plans writing discharge reports
6:04essentially I had 15 hours every week to
6:06work on stuff at this point did you guys
6:09um like were you able like once you get
6:11to that like third level um were you
6:13becoming um Center support which is
6:15where you have
6:16thatc when the role started we had
6:19Center support oh cool and that's when
6:20we were triing it out so if if you're
6:23aren't familiar with our Center Center
6:25support a staff that kind of helps out
6:27on the floor when your bcba may not be
6:29available to help out with behaviors
6:31help out with any programs that c or a
6:33technician may be having trouble running
6:35so we started off as on that role it was
6:38a there was a learning curve no one at
6:41first knew what Center support was for
6:42you know we were getting called for
6:43bathroom breaks you're like wait no this
6:46isn't what and you know the supervisors
6:48did a good job of saying like you know
6:50guys this isn't what it's for and kind
6:52of coming up with a new plan to like
6:54disseminate that information like nope
6:55these people are to help with behaviors
6:58So within the center support role we
6:59would also have weekly meetings and talk
7:02about all the behavior plans that you
7:04know BCB has created things differently
7:07and we were also part of in in that
7:09process we kind of gave feedback to
7:10bcbas as well yeah with what you're
7:13saying on the Flor you never get that
7:14experience I feel like anywhere else I
7:16was going to say so I didn't have that
7:17experience I really respect that um like
7:20those like you guys as students are
7:21given the opportunity to essentially be
7:23Mack like pretend supervisors like your
7:25little mini supervisors it's a it's
7:27really great and even before for the
7:29center support role I had a uh
7:32opportunity to do mock supervision
7:33without my bcba she we had a little data
7:36sheet that I would go in and fill out
7:38like did the technician do this did the
7:40client do this and then I would sit and
7:42report it back to my supervisor like
7:44this is what I saw and they were still
7:46responsible for delivering some that
7:47feedback but over time as I got a little
7:51more confident they let me do it that's
7:52really good practice really great oh I
7:55like that all right so going into you
7:58know tips and tricks one of the hardest
8:01things I feel like and one of the most
8:03important things are to build really
8:04good rapport with your technicians and
8:07have a good communication system yes so
8:10I think that is probably one of my
8:12number one tips when um you do become a
8:15new bcba is you a lot of us um kind of
8:19graduate from that student role into a
8:22bcba role at a lot of the places that we
8:23were working before so you're going from
8:26being peers and friendly with these
8:28technicians to now you are like
8:30overseeing them so working on that
8:32boundary of how to provide effective
8:34feedback and ensure that they are
8:36getting quality supervision while also
8:38maintaining professional boundaries when
8:39you were once their peer and had a
8:41different relationship with them where
8:42they you know I was I worked where I did
8:45my practic experience there was that
8:47fine line of where I felt like where the
8:49text could feel like not you know go not
8:51gossip you know they made those comments
8:53in front of me really oh well you know
8:56how it is and I would kind of have to be
8:58like no oh like you have to set that
9:00boundary in the expectation awkward
9:03sometimes it is maybe before I would sit
9:05and be like yeah like that did happen
9:08that happen so gross whereas now it's
9:11like no let's let's keep it professional
9:14so you know at first maybe I didn't know
9:15what to do so I'd pretend like I didn't
9:17hear them you know what that's a good
9:19method it worked for you it worked in
9:21the moment um kind of so with like your
9:26technician relationships and those
9:28boundaries how in supervision did like
9:31what strategies were you using in the
9:32moment to like after you kind of figured
9:34out how to do things like to set that
9:36boundary I feel like I just was really
9:39direct I went in you know with a purpose
9:41I'm here to supervise you if the
9:43conversation started to get too personal
9:46or too gossipy I would just bring it
9:48back to the client like yeah oh so can
9:49you tell me about how this and this went
9:52or can you show me this and this yeah so
9:54that we had something to focus on and we
9:56didn't have the chance to you know
9:58divulge into anything else right one
10:00thing that was really awkward for me
10:02before was after I passed and I took on
10:05the role I was like do i unfollow
10:07everyone oh my gosh yeah so I did and
10:11then I felt like even weirder about it
10:12because then they're like wait now does
10:14she not like me anymore like what's
10:15going on so then I would I don't know I
10:17felt like I was still a little unsure of
10:19myself so I would sit and be like oh I
10:20had to yeah um with your Center support
10:24role um kind of guiding into that we
10:28kind of talked a little bit about
10:29providing feedback that's really a
10:30necessary component as being a bcba is
10:33how do we provide feedback did you get
10:35the like practice during that like
10:37Center support role to provide it kindly
10:40but also like holding that boundary
10:42definitely I I believe that role really
10:45helped shape the way I could deliver
10:48feedback that's scary you know you don't
10:50know how to so I I was always in that
10:53position like after I helped with the
10:55situation I had to give the feedback
10:57like oh like this is what we could have
10:58done or I noticed like XYZ but it was
11:02different in the sense where I could be
11:04like well we'll check in with your bcba
11:06too you know they had like a fall back
11:08had a fall back where as as the bcba
11:10you're like I am the have to make these
11:12decisions what a weird so but I didn't I
11:15feel like I didn't have to say anything
11:16along those lines when I transitioned
11:18into that role really yeah what about
11:20you what well you came in you worked as
11:23a BCB at your old Center for only a
11:25little short amount yes so it was kind
11:26of my experience was a little bit unique
11:28in that sense so I finished my practicum
11:30experience the place that I was didn't
11:32have a bcba role so I ended up
11:34transferring to another Center to become
11:36a bcba um like after ID passed my exam
11:40but I like I was only there for a few
11:42months and I just didn't um I didn't
11:46have that experience like I provided
11:48feedback but I didn't have like I didn't
11:50come from being their peer so it was
11:51really nice I had a fresh start right
11:53but there I really like I decided on
11:55some methods that I wanted like I
11:56thought about it as when I was a student
11:58or when I was a technic
11:59what was important to me um because like
12:03the technicians are the backbone to our
12:05field they are doing all like the heavy
12:07lifting for us where we're like helping
12:09them guide them only there for like
12:10short hour two hours at most exactly so
12:13some like the number one thing that I
12:16did when I started as a bcba is I really
12:18wanted to ensure that I was providing
12:21feedback in the way that my technicians
12:23wanted it so I established a survey
12:26method so I like created a survey that
12:29would send to each of my technicians
12:30asking them like and it had just like
12:32and I didn't want to make it too long
12:33because if it's too long no one's going
12:35to complete it so I just like created a
12:37four question survey like asking them
12:39how they um received feedback best did
12:42they want it in the moment when things
12:43were happening or did they want me to
12:45wait till the end of the session I also
12:47asked like do they want more
12:48constructive criticism or do they need
12:50that like positive right feedback to
12:52feel like they're like performing their
12:54job correctly they're really good
12:56questions to ask because I feel like
12:58sometimes when we're asking these
13:00questions the the most common is like
13:02how do you want it delivered right yeah
13:03do you want it written or do you want it
13:05verbally but we get to ask what really
13:08works for them do they want to deliver
13:10it a little nicer are they fine with
13:11that constructive uh criticism so that's
13:14really good yeah so another thing I feel
13:16like that is really hard when you're in
13:18UB is figuring out in supervision and
13:21with your indirect time making sure the
13:23data is being collected appropriately
13:25correctly accurately it's so hard so how
13:28do
14:29scary can they do they need to hold
14:31their like child's hand while walking
14:33through the hallway and things like that
14:35so I really after a few months of being
14:38a bcba I learned like I really need to
14:39modify the data collection method and
14:41talk with my technicians about what's
14:42going to be feasible for them like how
14:44can I still get creative with the data
14:46collection because it's the most
14:47important part of our job but make it so
14:49that these technicians can easily
14:50collect it right when you first started
14:53out did your Center or your the place
14:55you worked have a universal data
14:57collection method for how they were
14:59collecting data the first place that I
15:01was a bcba we did program books so we
15:03just had all paper data um which I kind
15:06of love you were sitting in like looking
15:07through the paper data yes and it was a
15:09DT Center so they were like sitting at
15:11the table doing like Mass trials um so I
15:15like would have to like flip through
15:16each program and look like through each
15:18of those um which I kind of I love paper
15:20data I love paper data but like paper
15:22data makes you a strong Tech though it
15:24makes you a strong Tech because you
15:25can't it's a lot harder to falsify and
15:28you're looking at the data from what you
15:30did all that day yeah versus at right
15:32now in the electronic system you're just
15:34putting it in you not sit and look at
15:36your graph it doesn't yeah you don't get
15:37to see it as easily and I might not
15:38click oh this is what I'm working on
15:40you're just reading it right so yeah I
15:43really wanted to modify that was like a
15:44big that's something that I recommend to
15:46new bcbas is ensure that you are like
15:49making sure that the data is easy for
15:51your technicians ask them how they want
15:53to collect it or if you see a program is
15:55not being ran correctly it might not be
15:58because they don't know how to run the
15:58program they might not know how or be
16:00able to collect the data oh I love it
16:02and then also going along that you may
16:05so you you work on how to deliver
16:08feedback or what they like that you work
16:11on the data collection are they
16:13collecting data what's your next step
16:15what else is something that you're
16:16thinking about with our technicians um I
16:21really like it kind of goes back we
16:23briefly touched on it but just like
16:24ensuring the boundaries with them are
16:26clear um so I was lucky enough to like
16:29come in strong like as a supervisor I
16:32wasn't peers with a lot of my
16:34technicians so that was kind of easier
16:36for me but I also I didn't want to be
16:39cold and I like I wanted to be friendly
16:41with them so I ensure like we always
16:43tell the technicians let's pair with
16:44your client got to pair with your Tech
16:46it's my job to pair with the technician
16:48and we never want to take away from the
16:49effectiveness of the child's session but
16:52when there is downtime if the client is
16:54um engaging in their own reinforcement
16:57time where they don't need the
16:58technician use that time to get to know
17:00ask them how their day is going what
17:03they did over the weekend like get to
17:04know what values they have because the
17:07more you know about your technicians and
17:08what values they hold you're going to be
17:11able to apply feedback and make sure
17:13that your their like client session is
17:16effective because you can use their
17:18values to guide that if that makes sense
17:20so if they're having a rough day they
17:22feel comfortable coming to you and just
17:24saying you know this is happening in my
17:27life maybe supervision you take the lead
17:30you know sometimes I feel like a tech
17:31needs someone they know they can trust
17:34and go to and kind you know even after a
17:37long day you need someone to go vend to
17:39and go to your bcba like who else is
17:42going to understand what you're going
17:44through exactly and we talked like we
17:45talked about they're the backbone of the
17:47field do you remember how hard those
17:48days were you know they're very
17:50difficult you're working eight hours a
17:51day sometimes 12 depend some places
17:55don't even have break you know we're
17:56lucky where I was we got our you know 30
17:59minute break got a break when they went
18:00into services but some places you're
18:03just running session for 10 like 8 to 12
18:06hours maybe driving and then if you have
18:09back to back hard days right and then
18:12you feel like you're not supported like
18:13I remember as I was a practicum student
18:15at this point and I was like well
18:17respected and I felt really supported um
18:20but I was having like I had two really
18:22challenging kiddos because it's always
18:23the students who have the most difficult
18:25cases because you're trying they're
18:26trying to give you the experience as
18:27bcbas but I had really really
18:30challenging like three days in a row
18:32where I was like aggressive kiddos were
18:33beating up on me and I was just having a
18:35hard time and I my supervisor she didn't
18:38mean to I don't think I hope but she
18:41unintentionally just like provided me
18:43feedback really directly and really kind
18:46of harsh like it there was no like
18:48sandwiching there was no positive
18:50interaction yeah and I like just
18:52remember like asking for a bathroom
18:54break and going in the bathroom and just
18:55like crying soz I was like oh my God my
18:56clients hate me and now my BCB thinks
18:59I'm doing everything wrong so it's like
19:00ensuring that the way we provide the
19:02feedback is going to make them feel
19:04supportive important cuz even without
19:06you know maybe that you know little
19:08icing where she delivered that feedback
19:10in a way that you didn't want it in that
19:12moment there's so many days as a
19:14technician you need to you take those
19:16breaks and you I feel like I used to cry
19:18all the time well I didn't cry all the
19:19time but there was times I would need to
19:21like go take a break and just wash my
19:23face you know and so that if I didn't
19:26have a supervisor that was compassionate
19:28and caring
19:29that new my style it might have been the
19:32thing that broke me maybe I would the
19:33field you know you never know 100% it's
19:36like so necessary so we really need to
19:37just kind of right recapping on that
19:40keep in mind your technicians are doing
19:42the hard work what is like valuable to
19:45them how are you providing feedback and
19:47how are you going to make it meaningful
19:48to their client session that's great so
19:51transitioning away from kind of you know
19:53one of the hardest things is figuring
19:55out how to handle your technicians how
19:57to help best supp them another really
20:00hard thing I feel like as a BCB is
20:02learning how to set those boundaries
20:04within your work life your personal life
20:08and then with parents oh gosh yeah so do
20:11you want to kind of start talking about
20:13that a little bit what do you feel like
20:14was the hardest for you yeah I um so
20:17when I came to where we work now I I had
20:20never worked at a center where I was
20:22able to have like open lines of
20:23communication with parents like via
20:25texting um and I really wanted to be a
20:30you wanted them to like you I wanted
20:31them to like me I wanted to be
20:32personable I want them to like me I want
20:35yeah because they like we talked briefly
20:37when we were talking about parent
20:38training a little bit like they have
20:40such hard days like it's my job to
20:42ensure that I make it a little bit
20:44better I can make it brighter so I
20:46really wanted to be readily available
20:48for my parents so I would text them
20:51updates um if parents like signed a
20:53release form they asked for pictures
20:55throughout the day you know what the
20:56hard thing with this is once you sat
20:58that standard of I'm gonna send you this
21:00and I'm gonna send you this it becomes
21:02like oh well today you didn't it breaks
21:05a little bit so yeah and I so when I
21:08started out I each of my families I
21:11would like text them brief updates and I
21:12would tell them about like the client's
21:15day and then but they would even text me
21:18like asking about um like challenges too
21:22like hey so and so is doing this like at
21:25the center know you're doing that how
21:26can I work on it so parents were asking
21:28me this and I would be like past my
21:31working hours I'd be home for the night
21:32and my like husband and I are having
21:34like dinner or something and I'm like on
21:37my phone like responding to a parent and
21:38then your husband's like what are you
21:39doing because they don't have job you
21:41know both of our husbands have jobs
21:42where you know they clock out they have
21:44clear boundaries clear boundaries
21:46they're like that's a tomorrow isue or
21:48they're logging on like we we'll deal
21:50with it
21:50later it's hard to explain to the other
21:54partner well my job is also someone's
21:57life yes you know and I think working in
22:00the mental health like field like we
22:03are we just want to help we always want
22:05to be healthy so like we're trying to be
22:09we're doing that all day and even if
22:10we're not on the clock or even if I'm
22:12not texting a family I'm always thinking
22:13about my job I'm like oh my gosh you
22:16can't this isn't a job where you just
22:18you can't turn it off no matter if
22:19someone's like oh leave it at the door
22:20this isn't that kind of job where you're
22:22going to leave anything at the door my
22:24BM Myers or Target you know that reminds
22:26me of you know like I think you'd love
22:29that it's the small thing it's always on
22:32your mind so setting up those boundaries
22:34early on is so important like I so going
22:37back like with the family thing so I had
22:39this family and I I would text them
22:41often um and their child had a lot of
22:44really extreme behaviors and the parent
22:46would text me like at first it started
22:48like during dinner hours and then it was
22:49like at 9:00 at night they'd be like oh
22:51so and so is going to be out tomorrow
22:52and I was like okay so I'd respond 9:00
22:54p.m. and like no problem have a good
22:56night and then it got to the point where
22:58I was receiving text messages at like
23:0011: and 12 um and I didn't like I had my
23:04phone on cuz I'm sitting on Tik Tok or
23:06doing my me time so even during my me
23:08time I was getting like inundated with
23:10this work content and do you feel like
23:12continue that trend for a while until
23:14you set the boundary or did it just
23:16reset once the client left that was my
23:18breaking point so I was like oh my gosh
23:20and I like I met with my lead and I was
23:22like I don't know what I did like I just
23:24wanted to be readily available and now
23:25I'm too available like so I just had to
23:27be honest like in the next parent
23:29meeting I had to like set that and I
23:30said I am here for you but I set like
23:33clear working texting hours so I
23:35explained to the family I am available
23:37between these hours and these hours and
23:38like it just really helped me like know
23:41when I was going to be able to respond
23:43to them and like even if they did text
23:44me like now I don't feel the guilt of
23:46not responding if that makes sense that
23:47does one thing I'll tell parents is you
23:49know if something happens feel free to
23:51text me but I'm I've always told them
23:53I'm not going to reply until you know
23:55the next day when I'm in unless unless
23:57usually if they're six then I feel like
24:00that's always I'm like okay hope he
24:02feels better you know yeah it's easy
24:04that's not like a you're not problem
24:05solving in that moment you I don't have
24:07to think I don't have to think I want to
24:09take a quick pause um and just note for
24:12those receiving cus our first ceu code
24:15word is going to be ice cream so keep
24:18that in mind when you take your quiz
24:20code word number one ice cream capitals
24:23um just just ice cream either way okay
24:26sounds good should work awesome so we've
24:29talked about the boundaries with parents
24:32what about with your work like I said
24:33you know it's always on your mind yeah
24:36one thing for me was because I wanted to
24:39be so in tune with my technicians I
24:41didn't take the time in supervision or
24:43at work really to work on my indirect
24:45task I was taking it home every day and
24:48I was let me write my programs let me
24:50create materials let me do XYZ and it
24:53was becoming you know I would be working
24:55until like 9:00 p.m. and you know anyone
24:58that knows me that's my bedtime too you
25:00know why it's hard is we came from being
25:01students where we needed to work all
25:04hours of the day to get those 1500 hours
25:06I would go home and I was like I need
25:07more hours I need to finish I need to
25:09get my stuff done so you you had this
25:12way of working like when you weren't at
25:14work all day every day so then when you
25:16get into this role Contin that's what
25:19you're used to doing um when I switched
25:22from like my first bcba job to coming
25:25here that's when I like set my like
25:27boundaries for my myself like I really
25:29try to like I try my best to not work on
25:32things at home um so what iev it's
25:36inevitable I feel like but it's so
25:38important to try and like establish
25:40whatever works for you some people
25:41really enjoy working at home and doing
25:44that and like if that works for you with
25:46no distractions that's me I need that
25:47time where you know I'm a chatty person
25:49if I'm in the office working I'm going
25:51to talk to you so we're going to catch
25:53up first how's it going yeah how's the
25:55baby like let's talk about this and then
25:57I get distracted so for me I just
25:59started setting one weekend morning yeah
26:02my husband's asleep no one's awake at
26:04that time everyone sleeps in and I just
26:06worked on my stuff then and that worked
26:08really well for me as I was getting into
26:10the groove of things because in the
26:12beginning it also took me a while to sit
26:15you know I wasn't as good as maybe
26:16writing programs or you're not as quick
26:18yeah I'm not as quick it took me like
26:19maybe a little bit longer than it should
26:21have but gave me that wiggle room where
26:23I didn't feel guilty doing it at work or
26:26I didn't take it home on the weekdays I
26:28could just disconnect right I that's so
26:31similar to you you do the mornings I did
26:33because so I am notorious like everyone
26:36in the office knows I am terrible at
26:38doing my notes on time I I'm like ter
26:42and I try so hard I tried like giving
26:43myself reinforcement strategies I don't
26:45know what I couldn't do it so I sat like
26:48um a working time for myself on Friday
26:50nights I used to like end my day at 4:00
26:52I would go home be home by 600 and then
26:54I would work on my notes from like 6:00
26:56to 9:00 and that was just like my
26:58indirect time I worked on notes I had my
27:00like glass of wine and ate my little
27:02chocolate chip cookie for the day and
27:03that was like my little and it worked um
27:05but otherwise throughout the week I
27:06really tried not to like work during the
27:09weekdays and I think one thing that's
27:11also hard is when you are doing this
27:14extra work you feel guilty about it
27:16you're like everyone else leaves their
27:18work behind everyone leaves their work
27:20behind and here I am I'm stuck doing my
27:23notes because you know you know we have
27:25Emily in our office she does her notes
27:27right there and then she did it why
27:29can't I do it so I think also taking
27:31away like that comparison you can't
27:34compare yourself you you need to know
27:35what like what works for you and what
27:38those boundaries look like so before or
27:41like once you become you're a new bcba
27:42now like set a side time to really think
27:45be like do I need these boundaries what
27:48when do I want to be working do you have
27:50a family at home what is my family time
27:52going to look like as long as your job I
27:54would recommend don't let your job take
27:56away from your values and your family
27:58time like our job is yes our job is so
28:01important what we do the kids mean the
28:03most to us and we love what we do why we
28:05do what we do we want to make a
28:06difference that's why it's so it becomes
28:09this Loop where you're stuck in for so
28:11long you're stuck and then you get burnt
28:13out then you get burnt out so when you
28:15are doing that like prioritize your
28:17clients um but set aside time that you
28:21are working and then like set your clear
28:23boundary of this is my end time like
28:25have a what I have done is like have a
28:27very firm time of my day this is my
28:29family time I'm going to work with like
28:31I'm going to hang out with my child or
28:32my husband and spend some time like
28:35quality time you don't want your work to
28:36take away from that and one other thing
28:38I think is very important is you know
28:39you're going to you're going to get into
28:41a Groove maybe you don't like as a UB
28:43bcba it's okay to re-evaluate what
28:46you've done like you did you went back
28:48to the family like guys this isn't
28:50working for me anymore let's do XYZ
28:53that's okay just because you set that
28:55standard at the beginning does it mean
28:57you need to continue it if it's not
28:59working for you it's okay to change your
29:00plan it's okay to change we change our
29:02plans with our kiddos they're not
29:03working same things with our boundaries
29:05we can change them up make it work for
29:08you make it work for your family and
29:10you'll be fine yes so we touched a
29:13little bit on like work life balance and
29:15boundaries so set like figure out what's
29:17going to work for you in that I want to
29:19talk a little bit about like
29:20organizational stuff so when you become
29:22a bcba there are so many things you need
29:26to keep in your brain it like you have
29:29to come up with
29:30systems we have our cus that we need to
29:32track we have our supervision hours that
29:34we need to track um like when your
29:36assessments are due and reth like
29:38periods and things like that like there
29:40are these things that as humans we can't
29:42just like know off the top of our head
29:44so it's really important to kind of
29:47create your systems early on like do it
29:49as soon as you like when you first
29:51become a bcba typically the onboarding
29:53is going to be a little bit slow so
29:55during that time when you have a lot of
29:56free time cre your system so what I um
30:00did was I created some like Excel
30:02documents to track like so with um our
30:05job we have billable requirements so I
30:08would like create an Excel document like
30:10noting my billable requirements for each
30:12of my clients um how many hours that I
30:14needed and like I would just track those
30:15throughout the week and on that same
30:17document I had like when that client's
30:19reth period is up so they reauthorize
30:22every six months I had of that date and
30:24it turns red six weeks beforehand wow so
30:27like you
30:28I know we have different systems you and
30:30I are just like different organ
30:32organizational people right that's
30:33totally and totally fine whatever works
30:35for exactly it works for me and I
30:37remember coming into the world you were
30:39a bcba when I started and so were a few
30:41other people and you guys all shared
30:43your trackers with me your organization
30:46system and I would sit and look I'm like
30:48this is so much work I can't it would
30:50overwhelm me and I would try I'd stick
30:53to it for like a day or two then I just
30:55couldn't keep up
30:57so so for me just picking those key
31:00things I needed to keep track of just
31:01writing them down and sticking them on
31:03my desk was enough for is that what you
31:04yeah I needed a prompt of like like it's
31:07newe on this day so I have stickies
31:08everywhere yeah and that's all I need
31:10like if it's on an Excel sheet I'm not
31:12going to go look at it I just need it
31:14available yeah um that I don't know I
31:17feel like I couldn't so yeah that that
31:19would not work for me find works for you
31:21don't go in and look at someone else's
31:23be like I need to be that person and we
31:25all like went through a grad program you
31:28had to be organized to get through that
31:29so like what was working for you then
31:31how can you apply some of that to
31:33organize you so for me I think I'm a
31:35brain
31:36dump I both my supervisors had me write
31:40our agendas for the week and I in those
31:42agendas I would just brain up everything
31:44that needed to be done so okay I have
31:46this thing do for you know my supervisor
31:49I would write it down and at the end of
31:51the week that's just what I would look
31:52at and be like okay well I did that I
31:54did that and I checked it off and I felt
31:56good about myself and yeah so that was
31:57effective you I'm really glad and at
31:59school we're lucky cuz they have
32:01canvases or I don't know what they call
32:03it
32:04but yeah it's like a little I go through
32:07my and never I was never the person to
32:08go sit through my S and like I know you
32:10are the Highlight highlighting
32:12everything the highlight of the D dat
32:14but that was never me I just be like oh
32:16let's do this day like I see it I'll
32:18figure it up then you know one other
32:20thing with like organization that as
32:22becoming a bcba I was like really
32:24stressed out about was CEUs oh yeah and
32:27that for me I was like I have to get 32
32:3032 so just as a reminder for everybody
32:33listening you need 32 cus what four of
32:36which let me double check four are
32:38ethics and three supervision so you need
32:40that every two years just as like a
32:43general reminder how are you keeping
32:45track of this me and my Excel documents
32:48um so do what works for you so what well
32:51one thing please don't make the mistake
32:53that I made and wait until 3 months
32:55before your reof yeah I didn't do that
32:57my
32:58and I did them all already I just have
33:00to submit everything see that's
33:01impressive I waited so I like did cus
33:05but the other thing is like if I don't
33:07use like my organization type a brain I
33:10am really scatter brained so I like did
33:13CEUs but I like lost my like
33:16certificates and I like didn't write
33:18them down so then I just didn't know so
33:20then I had all these that I just didn't
33:22track so then like three months before
33:23my sht was du I was like for them on
33:25your email I'm like where are they so
33:27that I had to do like I don't know I
33:29think I had 13 cus left to get within 3
33:31months so don't do that plan ahead like
33:33when you become a bcba figure out like
33:35what's going to work for you so what I
33:36do is I try to do one to two cus a month
33:40um and then like towards the end I
33:42really focus on like that like last six
33:44months of my rth period I really focus
33:46on my um your re period my REO period or
33:49my research period um I really focus on
33:52the cus for supervision and ethics um so
33:55you just have to find what works for you
33:56but don't wait do not wait well one
33:58thing I did was I did first I find four
34:02that are supervision and I get them all
34:03out of the way and one thing that worked
34:05for me is just printing out the
34:06certificate then so I know I did it and
34:08then putting them in a folder I love
34:09that you're like a paper person it's a
34:11very low demand thing I don't have to
34:13sit and put it in anywhere and I can
34:15always refer back to it then I go on to
34:17I did I just say super then I go do the
34:19ethics and then I use the last ones to
34:21pick whatever I want to do and that
34:22worked really well for me and that's how
34:24I feel like I finished three months
34:26early
34:28me I'm usually like a deadline type of
34:30girl yeah like right before like meeting
34:33it the other thing is once you complete
34:36your um ceu upload it right away right
34:39right that's smart see that and that's
34:42not my fault it's the Portal's fault it
34:45takes a long time to get into the portal
34:46it like takes no shade at the BCB but
34:50like it takes 30 minutes to log in and I
34:52don't know what if you're on that at the
34:53same time it's probably enough for it to
34:54crash so the two of us in the same
34:56building on the same Wi-Fi on the same
34:57yeah server it's not working so I try
35:00but it's okay you know and I'll just
35:02keep put a sticky note on my desk
35:04telling me to do it later exactly you're
35:06sticky I so if I did anything paper I
35:09would lose it all like my students know
35:12me like I have everything in our like
35:14online folder and I print it like as my
35:17students graduate I'm like and then I
35:18print it and keep it all if I printed it
35:20as I went I would lose all their stuff I
35:22just it's not that like my paper system
35:24isn't organized I just have a big I
35:26don't know if you've ever seen my Des
35:27stack of Pap just a stack of papers and
35:30you know one day a month I'll go through
35:31and put them where they need to go but
35:33until then there's just a stack of
35:34papers on my desk that's all it that's
35:36your organization method I love it
35:38that's so funny oh my gosh all right
35:40what else okay so we talked about report
35:43we build with our technicians we talk
35:45about we talked about organ
35:47organization what else am I missing what
35:49else do I need to know if I'm in dcba
35:51with um kind of organization still a
35:54little bit with scheduling how did you
35:57feel like coming in um as being like a
36:01student and then becoming a bcba how did
36:03you navigate creating your schedule cuz
36:06you were scheduled beforehand by another
36:08person well one thing that was really
36:10cool in my practical experience I was
36:12scheduling training oh you know so I was
36:15very fluent in our EMR system I knew how
36:18to go and check everyone's schedule and
36:21I felt like that actually came very easy
36:23to me the scheduling I I just knew how
36:25to go in find some time that worked I
36:27only needed hours to plug it in one
36:30other thing I did as a student was I
36:31used to stock the bcba
36:33schedules you creep I feel like you
36:35might still do that now yeah I still do
36:37it sometimes but and that's I just they
36:40were my model like how do they schedule
36:41their days yeah and I would ask also it
36:43was a question I would ask both my
36:45supervisors like how what do you
36:47prioritize during the week and a lot of
36:49them were like you know get your
36:50supervisions in and your parent
36:52trainings and and fit everything else in
36:53between and I followed that pretty well
36:56I feel like I think that's a really good
36:57point so I came in as a BBA like we
37:00talked about from another place and like
37:01I learned how to schedule myself at the
37:03place I did my practicum yeah and then I
37:06came here and we work as a part of an
37:08interdisciplinary team oh they have
37:10Services they have services in the
37:12middle of their day so like when I first
37:14started as a bcba I was like oh I'm just
37:15going to schedule Johnny and Susie like
37:18my like I just I knew how many hours
37:20they required for the week you just did
37:22it and I just like did it and then like
37:23I would go to find them I'm like where
37:25is Susie and they're like she's in
37:26speech and I was like what okay so I had
37:30it was kind of a learning curve for me
37:32how do you keep track of like how many
37:35or like how do you know how many
37:37supervision hours your client needs per
37:39week what does that I follow my sticky
37:40me sticky method I'll go like write
37:43everyone's name out and on that sheet
37:45I'll write like okay they need 10% this
37:47is what 10% of you know you would think
37:49I would know 10% of 20 hours you know
37:52onp I need it written out so I write I
37:54write it down I write two and then I'm
37:56like I can do up to
37:58so I write four next to it I was follow
38:00that and I keep that on my desk so when
38:03I'm doing my schedule I like okay they
38:05need at least two and I get everyone in
38:08first and then I go back and be like
38:09well this kid needs a little bit more
38:11support I can do extra with that yeah I
38:13like that that's similar to what I do I
38:15mean I just send myself a message and I
38:16like write like I have yourself a
38:18message I so we use slack for those
38:20listening I sent myself like a little
38:22note with everyone's hours required and
38:24then I just pin it so then I make in my
38:25schedule I like look at it I'm like I
38:26can do you can go on it on the computer
38:29when you're doing your I don't always
38:30have my sticky note and then I remake my
38:32little then you have to redo it all yeah
38:35so that um scheduling was kind of tricky
38:37for me like becoming a bcba but like as
38:39you do it like just know it comes with
38:41ease after like more practice right and
38:43it's okay to take extra time out to work
38:46on it in the beginning I used to spend
38:48an hour on even though I felt very I
38:49used to spend like oh is it perfect yeah
38:52and then one thing to know is it's not
38:54going to stay the way you scheduled it
38:57yes going off of that I I always ensure
38:59to frontload my week so what that means
39:02is I try and like say Johnny Susie and
39:06Ally they need like two hours each of
39:09supervision I try and like put all my
39:11supervision and parent meetings towards
39:13like the Monday through Wednesday of my
39:14week and then I leave my Thursday and
39:16Friday kind of open I have like a parent
39:18meeting or one supervision but if I have
39:20cancels early in the week rather than
39:23having to like panic and try and fill my
39:24hours I like add those on later in the
39:27week I like that that's really good for
39:29me I feel like that's when I get a
39:30little more scattered brain though I'm
39:31like I I got to change it up it was a
39:34lot easier when I was full-time and I
39:36had you know multiple kids but now
39:38they're only here at least like five
39:41hours and in those five hours they all
39:42have two hours too and then they have
39:45services and then they have so just I
39:47try to like stay flexible with schedule
39:50and I'll move kids around but then I
39:52feel bad for the technician so I've been
39:54just sending them a text like hey I had
39:56to move this cuz they may not have a
39:57chance to see it yet but I'm moving this
39:59but let me know if you need anything
40:01exactly do you ever um oh my God I lost
40:04my train of thought I was gonna ask
40:06something about your schedule I don't
40:08remember is it okay do you have I'm
40:11trying to like jog your memory but I
40:13don't I don't know I don't know it's
40:14okay it's okay so next topic schedules
40:18organization what are we missing UB CBA
40:21what's on your mind um pause we need our
40:24ceu code word is that what you were
40:26thinking that I was thinking but I
40:28remember now CU code word number two is
40:31cupcake oo okay cupcake cupcake all
40:35right let me see Perfect all right so we
40:37did before we started like brainstorming
40:40this outline this week I know we talked
40:41to a lot of like the other bcbas and we
40:44were like what did you struggle with
40:47what do you wish you knew how to do and
40:50an answer every single one of them gave
40:52us was collaboration with the other
40:54disciplines yes so this is interesting
40:57because you had that experience like as
40:59a student to know how to collaborate and
41:01then you came in just like as a and I
41:03would hear you guys be like oh like I'm
41:05struggling and I be like well why yeah
41:07feel like I don't get it guys okay and
41:10when I came like where we are now I felt
41:12so lucky and I was like oh my gosh we
41:14just have these like such smart people
41:17like at our fingertips and like as these
41:19resources but before that like during my
41:21practicum experience I like that was one
41:24of my assignments for school was to like
41:26observe a collaboration meeting and it
41:29took me until the last week of my
41:31experience to even observe one because
41:34my the center that I was at we just
41:35didn't have that experience and it
41:37wasn't as easy to collaborate with
41:39others whereas like I feel like where my
41:42models they were just popping in like oh
41:45in in supervision like oh we're
41:46struggling with like speech like a
41:48speech thing let's walk past Kelly and
41:50ask her like he would be like let's go
41:52let's go and we would just sit they
41:53would chat and then we would be able to
41:55implement right away so a lot of people
41:58don't have they don't have the luxury
42:00that we do now so so hard it's a hard
42:02thing to learn it's really really hard
42:04so kind of the advice that I can give is
42:06don't be afraid to ask the parents for
42:09like the contact information for OTS and
42:12slps um or even like mental health
42:14professionals that are working with your
42:15they would love to talk to us they
42:17really want to and I know sometimes it's
42:19hard because
42:20we has such a like also ABA has this
42:24like you know sometimes people are like
42:26ew
42:28you I sometimes feel scared talking to
42:30teachers I feel like because they'd be
42:32like well we don't want to talk to the
42:33ABA professionals yeah so we might have
42:35like this bad reputation or our
42:38principles might not line up with like
42:40the OT or speech um because we learned
42:42our education in such a like specific
42:45way um but like just something to think
42:48about is this is not the time to be like
42:50when you are collaborating with these
42:52disciplines it's not the time to be like
42:54fighting arguing about well or just like
42:57explaining why you can't do what they're
42:59saying this is a time to just be
43:01open-minded and hear what strategies
43:03that they use and then offer strategies
43:05you use this you don't need to be like
43:07you don't need to agree you don't need
43:08to necessarily agree or but just listen
43:11and like you don't need to um disagree
43:15you know like telling them like I can't
43:17do it because it's ABA honestly you
43:19don't have to do it but like being open
43:21to them and having that open line of
43:22communication is just going to make
43:24sometimes I feel like comes back to you
43:25right oh they said XY and maybe in that
43:28moment I didn't agree with what they
43:29were doing but now it made sense like
43:32later or you like think about it and
43:33like yeah when you have that open mind
43:35like yes this isn't your knowledge this
43:36isn't your area of expertise but they
43:38have a wealth of knowledge they went to
43:40school just as we did they may have gone
43:43longer or and you know one thing is they
43:46might have taken some classes we didn't
43:47like the developmental classes as BCB we
43:50don't really get that you know the other
43:53disciplines do so going to them for that
43:55exactly I know know this can you help me
43:58please yes and our we really really
44:01focus on communication um speech
44:04language pathologist their their whole
44:06world is speaking and I feel like
44:09sometimes I don't know you might not had
44:11this experience because you kind of grew
44:12up in this area where you were able to
44:14like reach out to slps but where I grew
44:16up as a bcba it was kind of like some of
44:20the strategies were frowned upon and I
44:21look back and I'm like but why they have
44:23all of this wealth of knowledge that
44:24like my previous Center was like that
44:27first and we had a speech path in the
44:31like Center but I remember the bcba
44:33would always say oh she doesn't know
44:36what she's talking about and that stinks
44:37like I think she does I really think she
44:40does exactly so be open-minded when
44:43collaborating they have like all of this
44:45info that's really going to help you and
44:46you don't have to apply it but you can
44:48know like how they are targeting things
44:50in their session um and you can explain
44:52to them this is also a really great time
44:53to say like so and so struggles with
44:56flopping this is the strategies we're
44:57using um and when you are collaborating
45:00don't use our language we don't need our
45:02jargon lay in terms all you they don't
45:04understand and it's overwhelming and I
45:06feel like it comes down to like you're
45:07talking down to them to them like I just
45:10know this stuff so you have to listen to
45:11me exactly um something that I really
45:14really like to think about with
45:15collaborating as well is feel open to
45:19collaborate with the bcbas that you work
45:21with on a day-to-day um sometimes when
45:25you are like when you graduate from your
45:27program then you pass your exam you're
45:29like oh my God I'm supposed to know
45:30everything no you don't nobody knows
45:32everything we don't we're all still
45:34learning and you really need to use the
45:37people that are at your like disposal
45:39disposal disposal but literally they are
45:41we are all in the same like hopefully
45:43sometimes in the same office or the same
45:44building um I know sometimes if you're
45:46working at we all have different
45:47experiences yes so using that and like
45:50talking with them because some people
45:52might have different like um like they
45:54might be in the field longer or they
45:57gained an experience like I looked a lot
45:59to you guys in the office who had that
46:01interdisciplinary um like interaction
46:04there and I like asked you guys how to
46:05guide me on that cuz I didn't never had
46:08that I never had that so you really
46:10really want to um feel like open with
46:12your just brainstorming what's you need
46:14to talk it out who else who else is
46:17better to do it with than someone that
46:18can that no may even know your client a
46:21little bit can see them around the
46:22center it's the best way to do it right
46:24and like when you're think about like
46:28their like the um other bcbas in the
46:30office they too oh my gosh I lost my
46:33train of thought again other BCB is in
46:35the office you're reaching out to them
46:37yeah you just really need to reach out
46:39to them and we kind of will talk on this
46:41a little bit later but trying to find a
46:43mentor in your field y it's important
46:46because we don't know everything we have
46:47to remain you know within our scope of
46:49competence yeah so these people are
46:52there for you I was looking enough where
46:54I was I came like I was where I worked
46:56and I was given a mentor I used to just
46:58go to her with about everything like I
47:00don't know what to do and she was able
47:02to guide me even if she didn't know the
47:04answer it was nice having someone that
47:06could listen to me and then go to the
47:08next person exactly so and if people cuz
47:11where I was before I came here I didn't
47:14have like a mentor when I came here I
47:15did but when I was before that I didn't
47:17have that opportunity so there are a lot
47:20of really great people like on um like
47:23on the Facebook pages and stuff so you
47:25can find people even outside of where
47:26you are are to like Mentor you and just
47:29have their's like lead you and ask those
47:31questions that's great the one other
47:34thing with my I'm trying to think like a
47:36personal story that I really want you
47:38know what something that really helped
47:40me was okay so I was a new bcba and I
47:44inherited this case and it was time for
47:46like the REO and then I looked at
47:49everything I ran the assessment and this
47:50client made no progress oh no and I was
47:53like crap like what do I do I'm stuck
47:56and I went to my mentor and I was like
47:57can you help me sure and she sat there
48:00and helped me figure out like what the
48:01next steps were yeah and she took it to
48:03the next person above her and we were
48:05able to come up with a plan like help
48:08the student right or help this learner
48:10succeed in the next off and we were able
48:12to get him to reach like some of his
48:14goals this time around right I felt like
48:16if I didn't have her I would have just
48:17been stuck the auth would have came back
48:19like not approved kind of what have lik
48:22Law Services and that yeah it's just not
48:24fair to them yeah all right to wrap up I
48:26know we asked all of our co-workers some
48:29tips they had yes I don't remember
48:32them we might have to read we might have
48:34to read them but they're not our tips
48:36some of them are the same as us
48:37collaborate with other disciplines being
48:40better at setting boundaries with
48:41parents and then un one thing that we
48:44didn't mention was understanding how to
48:46change and rephrase
48:47programs you want yes um so what this
48:50person like had mentioned was um like
48:52you need to be able to adapt the same
48:54kind of program to different technicians
48:56so so it kind of goes to like how are
48:58your technicians able to like do the
48:59work that you um like are assigning them
49:02like everyone's going to do things
49:04differently so just knowing how to like
49:05modify your programs and also with your
49:08learner I really want you guys to start
49:11thinking about I feel like as students
49:12we um we're so used to like writing the
49:15goals from the V because that's when
49:16you're being taught it's the easy I've
49:18done it like you're teaching someone
49:20you're like map and come up with these
49:22goals but trying to think outside of the
49:24box well that doesn't really apply for
49:27this learner these Learners are
49:28individuals we need to individualize
49:30their like programming so really getting
49:32creative with like their strategies um
49:36this person also wanted to note that she
49:38learned that each technician has a
49:39different approach to pairing with a
49:41client um and it's not always the way
49:43you would do it yeah and it's like based
49:45on like that how to best get the
49:47technician to understand the programs
49:49and understand how to help them um when
49:51implementing them too one other thing
49:54one of the bcbas mentioned was how to
49:56approach treatment with compassion
49:58instead of winning battles and having a
50:00power trip I think this is hard for
50:02especially people that come from a
50:04different approach where it's it is
50:07really that I said this you need to do
50:09this we are so sometimes as a field and
50:11I I was like this for a little bit um
50:14follow through like I was like I
50:17presented this demand all I'm worried
50:19about is following through with this
50:20demand I would like sit there for like
50:22if a kiddo was trying to escape a demand
50:24for I would sit there for an hour until
50:26they completed the I'd wait out the
50:27there so many other strategies you could
50:29use like lessening the demand thinking
50:31about the private events that just
50:33happened what other factors may be
50:35impacting them or offering compassion
50:37and like helping them regulate because
50:39when something is hard and you are
50:41escalated that's not a learning
50:42opportunity so like yeah thinking about
50:44it that way we don't need to be on our
50:45power trip nope nope and then one other
50:48thing was how to be a confident
50:50practicum supervisor this is hard no one
50:54you know a lot of I feel like people
50:56come in they just do what Their
50:57supervisor did with them yeah versus
51:00like okay let let me be better than the
51:03person I got yeah exactly and this is
51:06where you need to like look for cus to
51:08gain competence like we are not just
51:10something to keep in mind is we should
51:12always be learning you're not going to
51:14know we talked about everything right
51:15off the bat like when you pass your exam
51:17that does not mean you're done learning
51:19you should be looking into the field at
51:20like being relevant with research um and
51:23like staying on top of your CEUs to know
51:25like where to guide your practice and
51:27joining those groups like you mentioned
51:28on Facebook that's where I feel like I
51:30get a lot of like oh like this might be
51:32good and then I can save it and I'll
51:33watch it later because you should have a
51:36platform you can find this information
51:39really easily without having to Google
51:41it every night you know yeah 100% um
51:44something I wanted to note is that of
51:47all of these like a lot of these tips
51:49are similar to what we said or they're
51:51similar to each other so three I think
51:53three out of the five other bcbas
51:55mentioned that they wanted to learn as a
51:57ncba how to collaborate with other like
51:59disciplines so just keeping that in mind
52:01I wanted to reiterate how important it
52:02is um someone else said they wanted a
52:06system to keep track of their notes
52:08client goals and technician requests
52:10like I think she came in and there was
52:12just like so much to do that they were
52:14like inundated with they didn't have a
52:15system for like creating that do you
52:17have any tips for it well me I'm like
52:19the most unorganized person there is but
52:21ask everyone you know there are so many
52:23people around you ask them go on the
52:26internet and Google what other people
52:28are doing find cus about it there's like
52:31plenty of options out there you just
52:33might have to dig a little extra yeah do
52:35a little searching and it's okay and
52:37then it's okay to go to your Mentor in
52:39those situations too can you help me I'm
52:41really struggling with this yeah um
52:44something else that another bcba wanted
52:47to know as a new bcba that they didn't
52:49really expect was how to practice making
52:51programs during supervision and I know I
52:55kind of touched on this where I would
52:56just wait till my weekend morning and
52:59write them but after I got a little more
53:02practice I was able to do them with in
53:04my session yes so something I like kind
53:07of guide my students on like when I'm
53:09like a practicum supervisor to them is I
53:11had the same Challenge and I was like
53:13overworking myself like every single
53:15night updating my programs updating my
53:16bips um because I wanted to be actively
53:19involved in supervision I loved hanging
53:21out with the kids and I loved being
53:22one-on-one with the tech it's also okay
53:24to set aside the 10 minutes in the
53:26beginning the end at that yes or what I
53:28would do is I like say I supervise them
53:30twice a week I said hey right now like
53:32this is what I do is I say today is I'm
53:35going to be like kind of behind the
53:36scenes I'm here for you if you need me
53:38um but I really want to update this and
53:40this and like setting that boundary with
53:42the technician in the moment and that's
53:43okay and it's okay if it doesn't work
53:45out that way too oh my gosh if yeah if
53:47there's like three behaviors then you
53:49have to like navigate okay I'll be
53:51flexible yes being able to do that but
53:54being up front with the technician um
53:55and just not it every single day because
53:57I also don't like to be the supervisor
53:59behind a screen like I want to be
54:01involved so just having that balance
54:03okay so then going on to some more tips
54:06uh being I know we also talked about
54:09setting the boundaries with parents but
54:11it's hard it's easier in the center
54:14versus I feel like if you're in home is
54:15what a lot of people told us in home
54:18you're this person mentioned that she
54:20would always be given like food or gifts
54:23from the parents family but being having
54:25to say no every time
54:27yes and I know that the like ethics code
54:28was like slightly updated to kind of a
54:31lot for these situations whereas before
54:33we couldn't accept any you know it was
54:36really hard I had this family that I did
54:37in home like ABA Services as a
54:39technician with and um she would make
54:42like big dinners for her family and she
54:44would offer me tea and I felt so like I
54:47didn't know how to say no um and I felt
54:49like I was like kind of offending them
54:52so like I'm really glad that they kind
54:53of modified that to really consider that
54:56these might like be doing that
54:58especially around like the holidays
55:00you're
55:01like we can't can't Lally have to get
55:03everything back yeah and that I feel
55:05like makes it worse yeah it does and
55:07then you have like this poor rapport
55:08with the family um I wanted to take a
55:11quick break and note that our third ceu
55:13code word is kale k a l e and with that
55:17that's all we had for this week thank
55:20you guys for tuning in and we'll talk to
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