Ep. 1 - Why Network Effects Are Mission Critical — Transcript
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- 0:04(upbeat music)
- 0:06- [James] So the world can often seem chaotic
- 0:08but underneath that apparent complexity,
- 0:10there's actually some wonderful, simple math.
- 0:13And once you see it and understand it, the world gets calmer
- 0:15and you can follow that math to your destination.
- 0:18If you're gonna be spending your life's energy
- 0:19building a startup,
- 0:21it's gonna take 100% of your effort.
- 0:22You're trying to defend the business area
- 0:25that you've carved out.
- 0:26You might as well be working on a business
- 0:28that has network effects
- 0:30because then you'll have a shot
- 0:31at going the distance and making a real impact in the world
- 0:34and creating true value for your employees,
- 0:37for your investors and for your whole network.
- 0:40(upbeat music)
- 0:42I'm James Currier and welcome
- 0:43to the Network Effects masterclass.
- 0:47(upbeat music)
- 0:52Over the last 20 years,
- 0:53we've built 10 companies
- 0:54that have exited for over 10 billion.
- 0:58We've also invested in hundreds of companies.
- 0:59Most of which also had network effects.
- 1:02Companies you've heard of like Lyft, and DoorDash
- 1:05and Patreon, and Goodreads
- 1:06that used network effects
- 1:08to grow and build their defensibility
- 1:10and went on to great success.
- 1:12So we've seen the failures and the successes.
- 1:14We've seen the tactics and the details
- 1:16of what it takes to grow these network effects.
- 1:19And with all of that company building,
- 1:21with all those investments, what we noticed
- 1:23was that when the companies had real network effects
- 1:25their success was 10, 20, 30x
- 1:28what companies were when they didn't have network effects.
- 1:31It was the most important factor
- 1:33in determining what would be a successful startup
- 1:36and what wasn't.
- 1:37In fact, between 2012 and 2018, we studied it.
- 1:40We kept track of it,
- 1:41and noticed the math is that 70% of all the value
- 1:45created in the technology sector.
- 1:47Is created by companies with network effects.
- 1:49And only 30% was created
- 1:51by companies without network effects.
- 1:53And once we saw the network effects
- 1:55playing out in these startups,
- 1:57it was clear to us that they were also playing out
- 1:59and how our lives went, and how the politics was going
- 2:01and how economics actually worked.
- 2:03We started seeing this everywhere.
- 2:05Once we saw it, once we understood it, we couldn't unsee it.
- 2:09And that's why we're doing this masterclass for you.
- 2:10Once you learn this way of seeing,
- 2:12you will not be able to unsee it.
- 2:15You will see these patterns everywhere.
- 2:17And the world that looks kind of chaotic
- 2:19on the surface is actually not as chaotic.
- 2:22It's actually quite understandable
- 2:24once you understand the network principles.
- 2:27And we're gonna teach you about the tactics and the nuances,
- 2:29all the different types of network effects.
- 2:31But the fundamental idea about network effects
- 2:34is that the more users a product has,
- 2:36the more value every user gets from that product.
- 2:40That's the kernel of the idea of network effects.
- 2:43Now, how that blossoms in flowers
- 2:45and its multiplicity of expressions,
- 2:48you will learn in this masterclass.
- 2:51Okay, so let's get started.
- 2:52(upbeat music)
- 2:58Network effects are important
- 3:00because they're really at the engine
- 3:03of what's creating economic wealth in the world today.
- 3:06They're at the engine of how politics works,
- 3:09how society works, economics works,
- 3:11yet so few people see them and understand them.
- 3:16It's like this hidden engine of the world
- 3:18that people aren't discussing
- 3:20and we hardly have the language for it.
- 3:22And so what we wanna do is bring out that language,
- 3:24bring out that understanding.
- 3:26I first learned about network effects in 2004.
- 3:29I sold my first company, Tickle, to Monster.com.
- 3:33And we were a fast growing user generated content site
- 3:37with matchmaking and social networking,
- 3:39and test taking a lot of user generated content.
- 3:42We were bought by this $7 billion company.
- 3:46And when we got there, after we'd been acquired,
- 3:48we realized that they were horribly run.
- 3:51The way they talked to each other,
- 3:53the processes they had in place,
- 3:55the metrics they were using
- 3:56were inferior to the way we were doing it
- 3:58yet they were buying us and not us buying them.
- 4:02And what we realized is the reason
- 4:03they were able to do that
- 4:04was because they had stumbled into a network effect in 1997.
- 4:10And that network effect allowed them
- 4:13to run the company horribly
- 4:14but still make a billion dollars in revenue a year.
- 4:18And they could go to sleep
- 4:19and they would wake up the next day
- 4:21and their business would still be there.
- 4:22And when we saw that,
- 4:23we realized we've gotta study this stuff.
- 4:26We've gotta understand what makes this work
- 4:28because we've discovered something important.
- 4:30You list out the companies you admire,
- 4:32you list out the companies you think have impact.
- 4:35I will bet you they've got network effects in them.
- 4:38Salesforce even developed a network effect over time
- 4:40even though they started without one.
- 4:42Very impressive.
- 4:43Apple started without one.
- 4:44Eventually, they got to iOS.
- 4:46Eventually, they got to their network effect businesses.
- 4:49And now they went from 40 billion
- 4:51to almost two trillion in value.
- 4:53Built on top of these network effects.
- 4:55We saw the pattern again and again,
- 4:58and that's why we called our firm Network Effects.
- 5:00And that's why we've been publishing about it
- 5:01for the last few years.
- 5:03These things are incredibly important to value creation.
- 5:05You're trying to defend the business area
- 5:08that you've carved out.
- 5:09And the network effects are the best way to do that
- 5:12in the digital age.
- 5:13Durable, competitive advantage.
- 5:15Where's that gonna come from?
- 5:16It's gonna come from four different defensibilities
- 5:18but generally it's gonna come from the greatest of those,
- 5:21which is network effects.
- 5:23(upbeat music)
- 5:27We wanna be very clear in this masterclass
- 5:30about what network effects are and what they're not.
- 5:33They are not viral effects.
- 5:35Viral effects are things like Candy Crush and whatnot,
- 5:38where your existing users send out the product
- 5:42to another user and you get a new user for free.
- 5:45And those are very exciting.
- 5:46And there are playbooks for viral effects
- 5:49but they aren't network effects.
- 5:50Network effects are about defensibility and retention.
- 5:54So the core idea of network effects is that
- 5:56every new user who joins a product
- 5:59increases the value of that product to every other user.
- 6:03Because of that value, they just won't leave.
- 6:06That creates stickiness.
- 6:07That creates defensibility.
- 6:08That creates longevity,
- 6:09which creates most value in startups in the long term.
- 6:13That's not virality.
- 6:15You're gonna learn that not all network effects
- 6:17are created equal,
- 6:18and that not all nodes on your network are created equal.
- 6:22And you're gonna learn to differentiate
- 6:23the different types of network effects
- 6:26and the different types of nodes
- 6:27that are gonna be on your network.
- 6:29You're gonna learn tactics for how to manage or grow
- 6:32each of your network effects and tactics for how to bond
- 6:35each of these nodes onto your network.
- 6:37(upbeat music)
- 6:41So network effects have always been important.
- 6:43Thousands of years ago,
- 6:44you would have a marketplace
- 6:45where buyers and sellers would come.
- 6:47And the more buyers that sellers that came,
- 6:49the more value everyone would get out of it.
- 6:51And so more would come.
- 6:53That's a basic network effects.
- 6:54We've always had network effects.
- 6:56You then move on to things like AT&T,
- 6:59which was the first time it was really written
- 7:01about in 1907, right?
- 7:02The chairman of AT&T says,
- 7:03"You should probably buy our stock
- 7:05because once we go into a town
- 7:07and we establish a network of telephones,
- 7:09once we get seven or eight people on that network,
- 7:12no one seems to be able to compete with us."
- 7:13Because everyone wants to join
- 7:16the biggest network available.
- 7:17The more people use in the telephone,
- 7:19the more valuable the telephone becomes,
- 7:21the more valuable AT&T.
- 7:23So we kind of said, you should probably invest.
- 7:25This was the first time it was written about.
- 7:26So then fast forward to 1976, when Microsoft stumbles
- 7:30into an operating system platform network effect
- 7:33what we call a two-sided platform network effect.
- 7:36They didn't know what it was.
- 7:38They'd never seen it before, but they stumbled into it.
- 7:40And it was incredibly durable
- 7:41because the more people they had using their OS,
- 7:45the more people wanted to build software on top of their OS
- 7:48so they could get access to the market
- 7:50of people who were already using that OS.
- 7:52And the more software was built on top of that OS,
- 7:56the more those people wanted to adopt the OS.
- 7:59Fast forward to 1998,
- 8:00when Microsoft is so powerful with this network effect
- 8:03and all of their competitors are screaming bloody murder
- 8:06that they can't compete with these guys.
- 8:07No one understands why.
- 8:09So the Department of Justice
- 8:11in the United States starts investigating Microsoft
- 8:13and looking to break them up
- 8:14'cause they're starting to appear
- 8:16like some kind of a monopoly.
- 8:17The academics started studying network effects.
- 8:19They started writing about it.
- 8:20People were trying to pull from the air.
- 8:22What is going on here?
- 8:24Why is this company so powerful?
- 8:25Now once the DOJ decided not to break up Microsoft,
- 8:28a lot of the investigation into network effects
- 8:31really died down.
- 8:32But starting in 94 because of the internet,
- 8:36it's like the tide went out
- 8:37and we could see the rocks and we could see the things
- 8:39underneath the water for the first time
- 8:42because the internet made it possible
- 8:45to measure and to see the network effects happening.
- 8:48And it made it possible to build lots and lots of businesses
- 8:51with different types of network effects.
- 8:53So by 2001, 2003, you do have some people
- 8:57starting to really study these network effects in academia,
- 9:00but it wasn't until the early 2010s
- 9:04where there were such a preponderance of companies
- 9:06that were dominating through these network effects,
- 9:08that we and others started really investigating
- 9:10what was going on.
- 9:11We're just now able to discuss them,
- 9:13were just now able to put language to it.
- 9:15We can now see them and use them
- 9:17as tools to actually construct these network effects,
- 9:20to construct these startups
- 9:22and direct them toward the destination
- 9:24we want to drive them to.
- 9:25That just starts happening maybe 10 years ago.
- 9:28Okay.
- 9:29Now, more recently because of Web3
- 9:32we are able again, to see,
- 9:34the tide goes out further
- 9:35and we can see more of these rocks,
- 9:38more of the things underneath the surface
- 9:40that were not sealable before.
- 9:41And we start to see the detailed construction
- 9:45of networks leading us to network bonding theory,
- 9:49which we started noticing in 2016
- 9:51and have been writing about only in 2021.
- 9:54And we'll get to that in this masterclass.
- 9:57But you should understand the historical context
- 9:59of the evolution of what we can even see
- 10:02and what we can discuss.
- 10:03That the internet, let us see stuff.
- 10:05We can discuss it to a certain point.
- 10:07And now Web3 has happened.
- 10:08Crypto has happened and we can see even more
- 10:11and see the real mechanics of it.
- 10:12We're just on the edge
- 10:14of this new discovery of network effects
- 10:17in the same way that people were just on the edge
- 10:20of understanding scale effect businesses back in the 1850s.
- 10:24And you had a lot of writing about capitalism
- 10:27and scale effect manufacturing
- 10:29and the laborers and the proletariat.
- 10:31And we had this new language that emerged back then
- 10:34when that new business model was discovered.
- 10:36We now have the same thing happening around network effects.
- 10:39(upbeat music)
- 10:43Another way of understanding
- 10:44how powerful network effects are
- 10:45is to look at the Goodreads' story.
- 10:47So Goodreads built a network of people
- 10:49who were reading and sharing their thoughts about books.
- 10:52Now, Amazon had owned the concept of books
- 10:56in the American mind for about a decade
- 10:58and long comes Goodreads.
- 10:59They got a big article in the Wall Street Journal
- 11:01saying they now represented book reading.
- 11:04At this point,
- 11:05Amazon could not lose their brand position to Goodreads.
- 11:09And so they made an offer to buy Goodreads.
- 11:12The day before they were supposed to close,
- 11:14Goodreads said, you know what?
- 11:16We don't really wanna sell, but if you paid twice as much
- 11:18as you just offered us, we'll do it.
- 11:21And Amazon, they yelled and they screamed
- 11:23but in the end they ate it.
- 11:25They had to eat it
- 11:26because they couldn't create the network effect
- 11:29that Goodreads had made
- 11:30between the millions of members of people on that.
- 11:34Amazon had bought the two competitors to Goodreads
- 11:36but they were much smaller than Goodreads.
- 11:37And so in order to own the jewel,
- 11:40they had to pay whatever it took.
- 11:42And this played out again with Facebook.
- 11:45Zuckerberg woke up one day
- 11:48with what we call a direct network effect around Facebook.
- 11:51A personal direct network effect
- 11:53because it was about the people
- 11:54on the network with their real names.
- 11:56A few years later,
- 11:57he woke up and notice that someone had gotten
- 11:59what we call a personal direct utility network effect,
- 12:03which is even more powerful
- 12:05than his personal direct network effect called WhatsApp.
- 12:09And WhatsApp only had 50 people
- 12:11and had very little revenue if any,
- 12:13but Zuckerberg was still willing to pay about 20 billion
- 12:17for that company because he saw
- 12:19that they had a stronger network effect
- 12:21and would eventually be able to attack him
- 12:24from a stronger position.
- 12:26And so he needed to buy them at any cost and he did.
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