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Ep. 1 - Why Network Effects Are Mission Critical — Transcript

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  1. 0:04(upbeat music)
  2. 0:06- [James] So the world can often seem chaotic
  3. 0:08but underneath that apparent complexity,
  4. 0:10there's actually some wonderful, simple math.
  5. 0:13And once you see it and understand it, the world gets calmer
  6. 0:15and you can follow that math to your destination.
  7. 0:18If you're gonna be spending your life's energy
  8. 0:19building a startup,
  9. 0:21it's gonna take 100% of your effort.
  10. 0:22You're trying to defend the business area
  11. 0:25that you've carved out.
  12. 0:26You might as well be working on a business
  13. 0:28that has network effects
  14. 0:30because then you'll have a shot
  15. 0:31at going the distance and making a real impact in the world
  16. 0:34and creating true value for your employees,
  17. 0:37for your investors and for your whole network.
  18. 0:40(upbeat music)
  19. 0:42I'm James Currier and welcome
  20. 0:43to the Network Effects masterclass.
  21. 0:47(upbeat music)
  22. 0:52Over the last 20 years,
  23. 0:53we've built 10 companies
  24. 0:54that have exited for over 10 billion.
  25. 0:58We've also invested in hundreds of companies.
  26. 0:59Most of which also had network effects.
  27. 1:02Companies you've heard of like Lyft, and DoorDash
  28. 1:05and Patreon, and Goodreads
  29. 1:06that used network effects
  30. 1:08to grow and build their defensibility
  31. 1:10and went on to great success.
  32. 1:12So we've seen the failures and the successes.
  33. 1:14We've seen the tactics and the details
  34. 1:16of what it takes to grow these network effects.
  35. 1:19And with all of that company building,
  36. 1:21with all those investments, what we noticed
  37. 1:23was that when the companies had real network effects
  38. 1:25their success was 10, 20, 30x
  39. 1:28what companies were when they didn't have network effects.
  40. 1:31It was the most important factor
  41. 1:33in determining what would be a successful startup
  42. 1:36and what wasn't.
  43. 1:37In fact, between 2012 and 2018, we studied it.
  44. 1:40We kept track of it,
  45. 1:41and noticed the math is that 70% of all the value
  46. 1:45created in the technology sector.
  47. 1:47Is created by companies with network effects.
  48. 1:49And only 30% was created
  49. 1:51by companies without network effects.
  50. 1:53And once we saw the network effects
  51. 1:55playing out in these startups,
  52. 1:57it was clear to us that they were also playing out
  53. 1:59and how our lives went, and how the politics was going
  54. 2:01and how economics actually worked.
  55. 2:03We started seeing this everywhere.
  56. 2:05Once we saw it, once we understood it, we couldn't unsee it.
  57. 2:09And that's why we're doing this masterclass for you.
  58. 2:10Once you learn this way of seeing,
  59. 2:12you will not be able to unsee it.
  60. 2:15You will see these patterns everywhere.
  61. 2:17And the world that looks kind of chaotic
  62. 2:19on the surface is actually not as chaotic.
  63. 2:22It's actually quite understandable
  64. 2:24once you understand the network principles.
  65. 2:27And we're gonna teach you about the tactics and the nuances,
  66. 2:29all the different types of network effects.
  67. 2:31But the fundamental idea about network effects
  68. 2:34is that the more users a product has,
  69. 2:36the more value every user gets from that product.
  70. 2:40That's the kernel of the idea of network effects.
  71. 2:43Now, how that blossoms in flowers
  72. 2:45and its multiplicity of expressions,
  73. 2:48you will learn in this masterclass.
  74. 2:51Okay, so let's get started.
  75. 2:52(upbeat music)
  76. 2:58Network effects are important
  77. 3:00because they're really at the engine
  78. 3:03of what's creating economic wealth in the world today.
  79. 3:06They're at the engine of how politics works,
  80. 3:09how society works, economics works,
  81. 3:11yet so few people see them and understand them.
  82. 3:16It's like this hidden engine of the world
  83. 3:18that people aren't discussing
  84. 3:20and we hardly have the language for it.
  85. 3:22And so what we wanna do is bring out that language,
  86. 3:24bring out that understanding.
  87. 3:26I first learned about network effects in 2004.
  88. 3:29I sold my first company, Tickle, to Monster.com.
  89. 3:33And we were a fast growing user generated content site
  90. 3:37with matchmaking and social networking,
  91. 3:39and test taking a lot of user generated content.
  92. 3:42We were bought by this $7 billion company.
  93. 3:46And when we got there, after we'd been acquired,
  94. 3:48we realized that they were horribly run.
  95. 3:51The way they talked to each other,
  96. 3:53the processes they had in place,
  97. 3:55the metrics they were using
  98. 3:56were inferior to the way we were doing it
  99. 3:58yet they were buying us and not us buying them.
  100. 4:02And what we realized is the reason
  101. 4:03they were able to do that
  102. 4:04was because they had stumbled into a network effect in 1997.
  103. 4:10And that network effect allowed them
  104. 4:13to run the company horribly
  105. 4:14but still make a billion dollars in revenue a year.
  106. 4:18And they could go to sleep
  107. 4:19and they would wake up the next day
  108. 4:21and their business would still be there.
  109. 4:22And when we saw that,
  110. 4:23we realized we've gotta study this stuff.
  111. 4:26We've gotta understand what makes this work
  112. 4:28because we've discovered something important.
  113. 4:30You list out the companies you admire,
  114. 4:32you list out the companies you think have impact.
  115. 4:35I will bet you they've got network effects in them.
  116. 4:38Salesforce even developed a network effect over time
  117. 4:40even though they started without one.
  118. 4:42Very impressive.
  119. 4:43Apple started without one.
  120. 4:44Eventually, they got to iOS.
  121. 4:46Eventually, they got to their network effect businesses.
  122. 4:49And now they went from 40 billion
  123. 4:51to almost two trillion in value.
  124. 4:53Built on top of these network effects.
  125. 4:55We saw the pattern again and again,
  126. 4:58and that's why we called our firm Network Effects.
  127. 5:00And that's why we've been publishing about it
  128. 5:01for the last few years.
  129. 5:03These things are incredibly important to value creation.
  130. 5:05You're trying to defend the business area
  131. 5:08that you've carved out.
  132. 5:09And the network effects are the best way to do that
  133. 5:12in the digital age.
  134. 5:13Durable, competitive advantage.
  135. 5:15Where's that gonna come from?
  136. 5:16It's gonna come from four different defensibilities
  137. 5:18but generally it's gonna come from the greatest of those,
  138. 5:21which is network effects.
  139. 5:23(upbeat music)
  140. 5:27We wanna be very clear in this masterclass
  141. 5:30about what network effects are and what they're not.
  142. 5:33They are not viral effects.
  143. 5:35Viral effects are things like Candy Crush and whatnot,
  144. 5:38where your existing users send out the product
  145. 5:42to another user and you get a new user for free.
  146. 5:45And those are very exciting.
  147. 5:46And there are playbooks for viral effects
  148. 5:49but they aren't network effects.
  149. 5:50Network effects are about defensibility and retention.
  150. 5:54So the core idea of network effects is that
  151. 5:56every new user who joins a product
  152. 5:59increases the value of that product to every other user.
  153. 6:03Because of that value, they just won't leave.
  154. 6:06That creates stickiness.
  155. 6:07That creates defensibility.
  156. 6:08That creates longevity,
  157. 6:09which creates most value in startups in the long term.
  158. 6:13That's not virality.
  159. 6:15You're gonna learn that not all network effects
  160. 6:17are created equal,
  161. 6:18and that not all nodes on your network are created equal.
  162. 6:22And you're gonna learn to differentiate
  163. 6:23the different types of network effects
  164. 6:26and the different types of nodes
  165. 6:27that are gonna be on your network.
  166. 6:29You're gonna learn tactics for how to manage or grow
  167. 6:32each of your network effects and tactics for how to bond
  168. 6:35each of these nodes onto your network.
  169. 6:37(upbeat music)
  170. 6:41So network effects have always been important.
  171. 6:43Thousands of years ago,
  172. 6:44you would have a marketplace
  173. 6:45where buyers and sellers would come.
  174. 6:47And the more buyers that sellers that came,
  175. 6:49the more value everyone would get out of it.
  176. 6:51And so more would come.
  177. 6:53That's a basic network effects.
  178. 6:54We've always had network effects.
  179. 6:56You then move on to things like AT&T,
  180. 6:59which was the first time it was really written
  181. 7:01about in 1907, right?
  182. 7:02The chairman of AT&T says,
  183. 7:03"You should probably buy our stock
  184. 7:05because once we go into a town
  185. 7:07and we establish a network of telephones,
  186. 7:09once we get seven or eight people on that network,
  187. 7:12no one seems to be able to compete with us."
  188. 7:13Because everyone wants to join
  189. 7:16the biggest network available.
  190. 7:17The more people use in the telephone,
  191. 7:19the more valuable the telephone becomes,
  192. 7:21the more valuable AT&T.
  193. 7:23So we kind of said, you should probably invest.
  194. 7:25This was the first time it was written about.
  195. 7:26So then fast forward to 1976, when Microsoft stumbles
  196. 7:30into an operating system platform network effect
  197. 7:33what we call a two-sided platform network effect.
  198. 7:36They didn't know what it was.
  199. 7:38They'd never seen it before, but they stumbled into it.
  200. 7:40And it was incredibly durable
  201. 7:41because the more people they had using their OS,
  202. 7:45the more people wanted to build software on top of their OS
  203. 7:48so they could get access to the market
  204. 7:50of people who were already using that OS.
  205. 7:52And the more software was built on top of that OS,
  206. 7:56the more those people wanted to adopt the OS.
  207. 7:59Fast forward to 1998,
  208. 8:00when Microsoft is so powerful with this network effect
  209. 8:03and all of their competitors are screaming bloody murder
  210. 8:06that they can't compete with these guys.
  211. 8:07No one understands why.
  212. 8:09So the Department of Justice
  213. 8:11in the United States starts investigating Microsoft
  214. 8:13and looking to break them up
  215. 8:14'cause they're starting to appear
  216. 8:16like some kind of a monopoly.
  217. 8:17The academics started studying network effects.
  218. 8:19They started writing about it.
  219. 8:20People were trying to pull from the air.
  220. 8:22What is going on here?
  221. 8:24Why is this company so powerful?
  222. 8:25Now once the DOJ decided not to break up Microsoft,
  223. 8:28a lot of the investigation into network effects
  224. 8:31really died down.
  225. 8:32But starting in 94 because of the internet,
  226. 8:36it's like the tide went out
  227. 8:37and we could see the rocks and we could see the things
  228. 8:39underneath the water for the first time
  229. 8:42because the internet made it possible
  230. 8:45to measure and to see the network effects happening.
  231. 8:48And it made it possible to build lots and lots of businesses
  232. 8:51with different types of network effects.
  233. 8:53So by 2001, 2003, you do have some people
  234. 8:57starting to really study these network effects in academia,
  235. 9:00but it wasn't until the early 2010s
  236. 9:04where there were such a preponderance of companies
  237. 9:06that were dominating through these network effects,
  238. 9:08that we and others started really investigating
  239. 9:10what was going on.
  240. 9:11We're just now able to discuss them,
  241. 9:13were just now able to put language to it.
  242. 9:15We can now see them and use them
  243. 9:17as tools to actually construct these network effects,
  244. 9:20to construct these startups
  245. 9:22and direct them toward the destination
  246. 9:24we want to drive them to.
  247. 9:25That just starts happening maybe 10 years ago.
  248. 9:28Okay.
  249. 9:29Now, more recently because of Web3
  250. 9:32we are able again, to see,
  251. 9:34the tide goes out further
  252. 9:35and we can see more of these rocks,
  253. 9:38more of the things underneath the surface
  254. 9:40that were not sealable before.
  255. 9:41And we start to see the detailed construction
  256. 9:45of networks leading us to network bonding theory,
  257. 9:49which we started noticing in 2016
  258. 9:51and have been writing about only in 2021.
  259. 9:54And we'll get to that in this masterclass.
  260. 9:57But you should understand the historical context
  261. 9:59of the evolution of what we can even see
  262. 10:02and what we can discuss.
  263. 10:03That the internet, let us see stuff.
  264. 10:05We can discuss it to a certain point.
  265. 10:07And now Web3 has happened.
  266. 10:08Crypto has happened and we can see even more
  267. 10:11and see the real mechanics of it.
  268. 10:12We're just on the edge
  269. 10:14of this new discovery of network effects
  270. 10:17in the same way that people were just on the edge
  271. 10:20of understanding scale effect businesses back in the 1850s.
  272. 10:24And you had a lot of writing about capitalism
  273. 10:27and scale effect manufacturing
  274. 10:29and the laborers and the proletariat.
  275. 10:31And we had this new language that emerged back then
  276. 10:34when that new business model was discovered.
  277. 10:36We now have the same thing happening around network effects.
  278. 10:39(upbeat music)
  279. 10:43Another way of understanding
  280. 10:44how powerful network effects are
  281. 10:45is to look at the Goodreads' story.
  282. 10:47So Goodreads built a network of people
  283. 10:49who were reading and sharing their thoughts about books.
  284. 10:52Now, Amazon had owned the concept of books
  285. 10:56in the American mind for about a decade
  286. 10:58and long comes Goodreads.
  287. 10:59They got a big article in the Wall Street Journal
  288. 11:01saying they now represented book reading.
  289. 11:04At this point,
  290. 11:05Amazon could not lose their brand position to Goodreads.
  291. 11:09And so they made an offer to buy Goodreads.
  292. 11:12The day before they were supposed to close,
  293. 11:14Goodreads said, you know what?
  294. 11:16We don't really wanna sell, but if you paid twice as much
  295. 11:18as you just offered us, we'll do it.
  296. 11:21And Amazon, they yelled and they screamed
  297. 11:23but in the end they ate it.
  298. 11:25They had to eat it
  299. 11:26because they couldn't create the network effect
  300. 11:29that Goodreads had made
  301. 11:30between the millions of members of people on that.
  302. 11:34Amazon had bought the two competitors to Goodreads
  303. 11:36but they were much smaller than Goodreads.
  304. 11:37And so in order to own the jewel,
  305. 11:40they had to pay whatever it took.
  306. 11:42And this played out again with Facebook.
  307. 11:45Zuckerberg woke up one day
  308. 11:48with what we call a direct network effect around Facebook.
  309. 11:51A personal direct network effect
  310. 11:53because it was about the people
  311. 11:54on the network with their real names.
  312. 11:56A few years later,
  313. 11:57he woke up and notice that someone had gotten
  314. 11:59what we call a personal direct utility network effect,
  315. 12:03which is even more powerful
  316. 12:05than his personal direct network effect called WhatsApp.
  317. 12:09And WhatsApp only had 50 people
  318. 12:11and had very little revenue if any,
  319. 12:13but Zuckerberg was still willing to pay about 20 billion
  320. 12:17for that company because he saw
  321. 12:19that they had a stronger network effect
  322. 12:21and would eventually be able to attack him
  323. 12:24from a stronger position.
  324. 12:26And so he needed to buy them at any cost and he did.

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