English Podcast 1: Learning Languages — Transcript
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- 0:00Hello. Today I thought we could do a
- 0:02longer
- 0:03um speaking video like a podcast in
- 0:06English to practice listening to natural
- 0:08English. Um
- 0:10so I'm going to speak at the normal pace
- 0:12that I would speak if I was speaking to
- 0:13a friend or somebody I know well. Um
- 0:16often I find myself slowing down the
- 0:19pace at which I talk so that people can
- 0:22understand me. And this is because in my
- 0:24own experience um when I've been
- 0:26learning a language, often I don't
- 0:28understand the first time somebody tells
- 0:31me something. So I do appreciate it when
- 0:34people slow down there
- 0:35the pace and the rhythm with which
- 0:37they're speaking so that I can
- 0:38understand.
- 0:40But I know as well that for more
- 0:42advanced or intermediate learners that
- 0:45this becomes a little bit of futile
- 0:47after a while because you want to speak
- 0:49natural English, right? So if somebody
- 0:51is always slowing down what they're
- 0:53saying, then it's not natural. And um it
- 0:56can be infuriating if people continue to
- 0:58speak to you um
- 1:01like a child almost. So today I'm just
- 1:03going to speak at the normal pace that I
- 1:05would speak, like I said. Um and I
- 1:07thought that would be an appropriate
- 1:08topic to talk about learning languages
- 1:10in general. So as I say, it's helpful to
- 1:13hear the natural rhythm with which
- 1:15people speak. And another thing that I
- 1:17think is always very helpful is to hear
- 1:19multiple different voices, to hear
- 1:20different accents so that you become
- 1:22used to different voices and how the
- 1:25language actually sounds when people are
- 1:27really speaking it and you're not just
- 1:28listening to a book designed for
- 1:30beginners, for example. So um
- 1:34to talk about my experiences
- 1:37learning languages, I've always liked
- 1:39listening to audiobooks. Um when I first
- 1:43start learning a language, I'll
- 1:44obviously look for A1 or A2 content.
- 1:47Um
- 1:48and if I need to I'll listen to it a
- 1:50couple of times or maybe I will slow
- 1:52down the pace with which people are
- 1:54speaking. It depends on the book, it
- 1:56depends on the language, it It on how
- 1:58challenging I find it. If it's easy then
- 2:00obviously I don't want to listen to it
- 2:01on repeat. This goes with films as well.
- 2:05I recently read that one of the best
- 2:07ways to really learn from watching films
- 2:09is to watch it about three times. One
- 2:12time with no subtitles, just the audio
- 2:15in your target language, then try with
- 2:18the subtitles in the target language as
- 2:20well.
- 2:22And then finally, if you still don't
- 2:23understand, to use the subtitles of your
- 2:27mother tongue, of your natural language.
- 2:29Um apparently, this is a more effective
- 2:31way of learning than just watching it
- 2:34with the audio in your target language
- 2:36and reading the subtitles. Apparently,
- 2:38this is not very effective.
- 2:40I don't know. I'm just repeating what
- 2:42I've heard, but I can believe it. I do
- 2:44see why that might be the case. Um
- 2:48For example, like
- 2:50if I'm watching a foreign movie like a
- 2:54Korean film, I don't know any Korean.
- 2:56So, if I'm just reading the
- 2:59the subtitles in English, I start to
- 3:01just
- 3:02tune out the real audio. Like I it
- 3:04doesn't go in. I'm purely reading, if
- 3:07that makes sense. So, I do think it's
- 3:09better
- 3:10maybe it activates your brain a bit
- 3:12more, it engages your brain so that you
- 3:14really understand and you take the time
- 3:16to process what you're both listening to
- 3:18and reading at the same time.
- 3:21Anyway, I think that movies can be a
- 3:23really effective way to learn a
- 3:24language, for sure.
- 3:26Ultimately, I think the best way to
- 3:28learn a language is to
- 3:31choose the method that works well for
- 3:33you.
- 3:34People have all different kinds of
- 3:35learning styles. For example, I
- 3:38um
- 3:39I think I learn best when I hear
- 3:41something. If somebody explains it to me
- 3:44and I listen to it, or if I listen to a
- 3:46podcast, this helps me a lot more than
- 3:50uh than visual cues. But, for some
- 3:53people, visual cues are really
- 3:54important. They they uh won't learn the
- 3:57vocab. They don't learn from flashcards
- 4:00unless there's a picture and something
- 4:02you can associate it with in your mind.
- 4:04Um so it depends on the person and
- 4:06depends on your language style
- 4:09or your your learning style, sorry.
- 4:11Um
- 4:13So everybody has their own method. And
- 4:15if you don't know yet, then you need to
- 4:17just experiment with different things.
- 4:19Maybe one thing is really helpful for
- 4:21you and another thing is not helpful.
- 4:23And that's okay. You just need to go
- 4:25through trial and error and see what
- 4:27works well for you.
- 4:29That being said,
- 4:31as a teacher,
- 4:32I think that it's important to kind of
- 4:35hit all aspects of a language, to spend
- 4:38some time on grammar, spend some time on
- 4:40vocabulary, do reading, listening,
- 4:43writing, speaking, hit all four of them.
- 4:46Um maybe if you prefer to read, dedicate
- 4:48more time to reading and less time to
- 4:50writing. Whatever works well for you.
- 4:53But I do think it's important to hit all
- 4:55four skills at some point in the week.
- 4:58Which brings me on to another thing I
- 5:00want to talk about. Um and that's how
- 5:02much time should you spend learning a
- 5:04language?
- 5:06I think again, this is highly
- 5:08individual. Some people have a lot of
- 5:10free time. Some people can maybe spend 3
- 5:12hours a day learning a language. Some
- 5:14people have a full-time job. Some people
- 5:16have a family and they can't commit to
- 5:19an hour a day. And in this case, I
- 5:21think, you know, 15 minutes a day is
- 5:23perfect. It's progress. It's the same
- 5:26with anything in life, like any sport,
- 5:29any hobby. If you spend 15 minutes a day
- 5:33doing something proactively, then of
- 5:37course over time it builds up and it
- 5:39amounts to something and you will see
- 5:41progress even if you're maybe frustrated
- 5:44in the beginning that you can't dedicate
- 5:46more time to this pursuit.
- 5:49Ultimately, doing something is always
- 5:51better than doing nothing. So if you
- 5:53only have 5 minutes a day to learn
- 5:55vocab, then do it because 5 minutes is
- 5:58better than 0 minutes.
- 6:00For me, I have obviously noticed a
- 6:02bigger change if I've dedicated um 3
- 6:06hours to learning a language a day.
- 6:08I've noticed bigger progress.
- 6:10For example, the first language I
- 6:12learned after my mother tongue was
- 6:15Italian.
- 6:17And for a long time I didn't have
- 6:21I was studying so I didn't have a lot of
- 6:22time to dedicate to learning
- 6:24Italian and I was frustrated because it
- 6:27felt like so much time was passing and
- 6:28every year I had the same goal to
- 6:31improve my Italian. And every year I was
- 6:33always so disappointed because I didn't
- 6:36feel or notice a big difference. And
- 6:39then one summer I
- 6:41spent 3 or 4 hours a day studying
- 6:43Italian and it was great. I noticed a
- 6:45really big amount of progress in a
- 6:48relatively small amount of time.
- 6:50However, I burnt out because it wasn't
- 6:53really sustainable. As soon as I started
- 6:56I went back to my job, as soon as I went
- 6:57back to my studies and I had a full
- 7:00schedule, I didn't have time for 3 or 4
- 7:03hours a day of studying a language. You
- 7:05know, as educational and beneficial as
- 7:08it is it's a hobby and you still have to
- 7:10work, you still have responsibilities.
- 7:13So in the long run it wasn't um
- 7:16maintainable for me.
- 7:18And so what actually happened was I
- 7:21crashed out for a month. For a month I
- 7:23did no Italian. So overall my progress
- 7:26in 2 months was the same as it was in 1
- 7:28month because I yeah, I spent a really
- 7:31long amount of time working on it for 1
- 7:33month and then I did nothing. And in
- 7:36this case I think it would have been
- 7:37better to have spent maybe an hour a day
- 7:40or 30 minutes a day every single day
- 7:44doing something instead of having this
- 7:46one period where I did a lot and then
- 7:48followed by another period where I did
- 7:50nothing, like I say.
- 7:52So ultimately, as of everything,
- 7:55discipline is really crucial when it
- 7:57comes to learning a language.
- 7:59Because learning a language can be fun.
- 8:02I I find it fun. That's now why I like
- 8:04to learn languages
- 8:06because it's very rewarding. I I feel
- 8:08very proud of myself when I make
- 8:10progress in a language. I love to be
- 8:12able to communicate with people in
- 8:13different languages, and I think you
- 8:15discover so much about yourself. Your
- 8:18personality changes, or
- 8:21if you talk about a topic in one
- 8:24language and talk about the same topic
- 8:26in another language, sometimes you
- 8:28realize things that you didn't realize
- 8:29the first time round. Like you can
- 8:32almost see it from a different
- 8:33perspective.
- 8:34I [snorts]
- 8:36I don't know if this is real or not.
- 8:37This is just my experience, but
- 8:39sometimes if I talk to myself about a
- 8:41situation in English in my head,
- 8:44sometimes I feel very emotionally
- 8:47about the issue, and I'm not really able
- 8:49to look at it logically. I'm too
- 8:52emotionally invested. But if I start to
- 8:55explain the situation in its bare bones
- 8:58in another language,
- 9:00um
- 9:01like Italian, for example, then maybe
- 9:04I'll become less emotionally attached,
- 9:06and I can start to see it more
- 9:08rationally, see the situation as it is
- 9:11without the embellishments of emotion or
- 9:14attachment.
- 9:16Um and that's really helpful. That's an
- 9:17important skill. To be able to think
- 9:19critically, to be able to think
- 9:20rationally is so important, and I think
- 9:23it's something that language learning
- 9:24really
- 9:25um permits you to do. So,
- 9:27I think it's important for this reason.
- 9:30Um
- 9:31which is kind of in itself as well a
- 9:34good way of learning a language, I
- 9:35think. By speaking to yourself, by
- 9:38um
- 9:38cooking and explaining what you're doing
- 9:40in your target language, or if you're in
- 9:42the shower, talk about your day in your
- 9:45target language, and you'll process
- 9:48um
- 9:49you'll process everything that you've
- 9:51been thinking about all day, which is
- 9:53good for you anyway, but also is great
- 9:55practice because you'll be using the
- 9:57words that you need in your target
- 10:00language. And if there's a word that
- 10:02doesn't come to your mind, you can't
- 10:04think of something, or you don't know
- 10:05how to explain something, then that's
- 10:07the thing you need to learn. Now you
- 10:09know what specifically, what vocab you
- 10:12need to learn. Because it's all very
- 10:14well learning like 1,000 most common
- 10:16words or
- 10:173,000 words to get you to level B2.
- 10:20That's fine, but if you're not using
- 10:23those words often, I guarantee you you
- 10:25will not remember them in the long term.
- 10:27So it's better to, I think, better to
- 10:32learn the words that you will use to
- 10:35talk about your day, to talk about
- 10:36subjects that are interesting for you,
- 10:38than to learn a lot of a lot of
- 10:40vocabulary that you're not actually
- 10:42going to use and you're not actually
- 10:43going to remember. So that's my opinion
- 10:46on that. Realistically, I think that
- 10:49learning languages has so many benefits
- 10:51and very little cons. I think the cons
- 10:55you could really just call challenges.
- 10:56Like time commitment is a big
- 10:59is a big challenge because like I say,
- 11:01everybody has commitments, everybody has
- 11:03work. So sometimes it's difficult to put
- 11:06time aside for a hobby.
- 11:09And also another challenge is that it's
- 11:12not always easy to learn another
- 11:13language. For example, with grammar,
- 11:16grammar can be so boring and if you're
- 11:19not somebody that likes grammar, to
- 11:21force yourself to learn these grammar
- 11:23rules about another language can be
- 11:25really demotivating. It makes you think,
- 11:27I don't want to continue with this
- 11:28anymore. It's not interesting for me.
- 11:30And especially if you couple with this
- 11:33if you couple this with the idea that
- 11:34you've not been feeling like you're
- 11:36making progress recently, then it can be
- 11:38really
- 11:39really difficult, quite like
- 11:41it puts you down. It makes you feel like
- 11:44you are not clever enough to learn a
- 11:47language, which of course is silly
- 11:48because
- 11:50learning a language is not about how
- 11:51intelligent you are. Anyone can learn a
- 11:53language. Babies learn languages. It's
- 11:56nothing to do with intelligence. I think
- 11:57it's purely about exposure, how often
- 12:00you hear this language, how often you
- 12:02use this language. That's why
- 12:05I think people that
- 12:07people that live
- 12:11in a country that speaks their target
- 12:13language will learn the language more
- 12:16quickly than somebody who is learning
- 12:18the language um but are not surrounded
- 12:22by the language on a daily basis. Um
- 12:26I always think of it as like if you live
- 12:28in a country where your target language
- 12:30is spoken, you've really been thrown in
- 12:32the deep end. Like baptism by fire is a
- 12:35difficult situation in first to adapt to
- 12:38for sure, but ultimately I think the
- 12:40most rewarding and the best method for
- 12:43learning.
- 12:45I also think language courses can be
- 12:47really um
- 12:48helpful as well
- 12:50because you have the incentive that
- 12:52you've paid money to do it. So
- 12:54um not only have you dedicated your
- 12:56time, but you've also now dedicated your
- 12:58finances to learning something. And I
- 13:00think that when you have that kind of
- 13:02commitment, it makes you more motivated
- 13:04to learn and um more dedicated to the
- 13:07task at hand. So I do think that those
- 13:09are two really good methods.
- 13:11In the future, for me personally, I
- 13:13would love to to maybe save up and then
- 13:15spend three or four months in a country
- 13:18where I'm learning the language um
- 13:20maybe working online or maybe go to a
- 13:22language center there and learn the
- 13:25language as an experiment for myself.
- 13:27See how much progress I can make in that
- 13:28time. That's really a goal of mine for
- 13:31sure. Um
- 13:33in terms of other ways of learning
- 13:35languages like uh language learning apps
- 13:37are very popular now.
- 13:39I don't know how effective these really
- 13:41are.
- 13:42I think something is better than
- 13:43nothing. If you spend five minutes on
- 13:44Duolingo, that's better than zero
- 13:46minutes doing anything. So obviously I
- 13:50can support that.
- 13:53But uh for me for me
- 13:57I don't think they're the best. I think
- 13:58I spend too much time on my phone anyway
- 14:00to to excuse using
- 14:03um language apps. I
- 14:05It's really boring, but books are the
- 14:08are a really good way to learn.
- 14:10I'd either just reading a book or
- 14:11studying grammar from a book or
- 14:14making vocab lists from a language
- 14:17coursebook is boring, but it's the
- 14:20traditional method and it's been used
- 14:22for centuries and there's a reason why,
- 14:24because it works.
- 14:26So, I think that this is a good way of
- 14:28learning as well. Some apps, I think,
- 14:30can be useful. I used to use Busuu, uh
- 14:33which was essentially like a language
- 14:36course in app form. So, for the same
- 14:39reason, it would teach you like a
- 14:40grammar lesson, then it would give you a
- 14:42vocabulary lesson, the same as if you
- 14:44were doing it with a a grammar book. So,
- 14:46I think that that was quite effective,
- 14:48but there were gaps. I don't think that
- 14:50it explained the grammar rules very
- 14:52well. Like, I kind of could memorize the
- 14:55um
- 14:56memorize the answers to the questions it
- 14:58gave me or memorize some structures, but
- 15:01not really understand how it works or
- 15:03why it works or anything like that. So,
- 15:06it was good. It was good, but it wasn't
- 15:08great.
- 15:09Um
- 15:10yeah, and I'm not sure that
- 15:12same with things like AI, AI makes
- 15:14mistakes. Now, maybe in the future it
- 15:16will be better, but AI does make
- 15:18mistakes, so it's difficult to know um
- 15:22if what you have done is actually
- 15:23correct or if uh if it's
- 15:26has more mistakes in it and AI just
- 15:27isn't showing you yet, so
- 15:30it's a little bit problematic. I think
- 15:32some of the traditional methods, as
- 15:33boring as they are,
- 15:35do work and they have stood the test of
- 15:37time for a reason. I also think that
- 15:40communication, real talk
- 15:42with a native speaker can be so
- 15:45insightful and so helpful for for
- 15:47language learning.
- 15:48I think it can be daunting at first. The
- 15:51first time I spoke in another language
- 15:53with um native speakers of that language
- 15:56was terrifying because I know that I'm
- 15:57making mistakes and I feel embarrassed
- 15:59because I sound like a child and I don't
- 16:01want to sound like a child. I want to
- 16:02sound like me. I want to be able to
- 16:04express myself
- 16:07and say what I want to say without not
- 16:09knowing the word, but it's natural. It's
- 16:12part of the program. Nobody um speaks a
- 16:15language fluently from day one. It's
- 16:17impossible. I think it's so revealing of
- 16:21your character if you can spend the time
- 16:24and have the motivation and discipline
- 16:26to learn a language by yourself and then
- 16:29have the confidence to talk to people to
- 16:31to native speakers knowing that maybe
- 16:34your grammar's not perfect or maybe you
- 16:36want to use a better word than big, but
- 16:38you don't know the word. It's It's
- 16:41daunting. It's makes you feel very
- 16:43vulnerable. So, I think you have to have
- 16:45a lot of bravery and a lot of confidence
- 16:47to do it and I feel very
- 16:50proud, I guess, or I admire people that
- 16:53learn languages
- 16:55because I think it's a really good skill
- 16:56to have and I think it like I said,
- 16:59it reveals somebody's true colors if
- 17:01they can do a challenge like that by
- 17:03themselves.
- 17:04So,
- 17:06with that being said, I hope that this
- 17:08has been useful to practice listening to
- 17:11real
- 17:12real English being spoken at my natural
- 17:15pace. I've not trying to alter anything.
- 17:19Maybe some of it is a bit challenging.
- 17:21Maybe you need to listen to it twice,
- 17:23but hey, that's part of the process. I
- 17:25would need to do exactly the same thing
- 17:26too in a different language. It's
- 17:28completely normal, completely human.
- 17:31Um
- 17:32if you would like to see more videos
- 17:34like this, please let me know.
- 17:35I will try to make some more longer
- 17:38videos to practice comprehensible input
- 17:41because I think this style is really
- 17:43useful for learners. It's useful for me
- 17:45when I'm learning.
- 17:46Um but that's everything. So, I hope you
- 17:49have an amazing day.
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