🚨 ENGENHARIA REVERSA COM IA | QUANTO TEMPO ATÉ HACKEAREM SEU BANCO? — Transcript
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- 0:00But first, let me ask you something: do
- 0:02you know what your bank app, a card
- 0:04reader, and a hard wallet—the one you
- 0:06bought to keep your cryptos safe—all
- 0:09have in common? What does each one of
- 0:11them run? An embedded system that was
- 0:14written about 5, 10, 15, or 20 years
- 0:17ago. Back in a time when, if we were
- 0:20talking about reverse engineering, it
- 0:22would take days, weeks, months, or
- 0:23years. And the cost to find a
- 0:27vulnerability, my friend, was so high
- 0:29that nobody really bothered to try and
- 0:31fix what was going on, man. But in
- 0:33October 2026, all that changed, my
- 0:37player. There's a guy on YouTube called
- 0:39Low Level. The guy is basically an
- 0:41expert in reverse engineering. This guy
- 0:43went there and did an "Illuminati"
- 0:44experiment, man, that was quite
- 0:46interesting. He took a Dell monitor, he
- 0:48threw the monitor's firmware into the
- 0:50AI. In 15 minutes, it managed to
- 0:52extract the encryption key, decrypted
- 0:54the binary, verified the MD5, and
- 0:56proved that it, my friend, that it was
- 0:58correct. Man, do you have any idea that
- 1:01it did that in 15 minutes? Dude, 15
- 1:03minutes? No, not 15, actually, it was
- 1:0516 minutes. And he even admitted in a
- 1:07video there that he rounded it off, my
- 1:08friend, it was 16 minutes, man. Think
- 1:11with me: something that took, I don't
- 1:13know, a week for you to break, to
- 1:14reverse engineer, man, that thing, damn
- 1:16, in 16 minutes, man. Now think with me
- 1:19, if the AI can do that with Dell
- 1:21monitor software, how long do you think
- 1:23it would take to do the same thing?
- 1:27Maybe with that old internet banking
- 1:29from that bank, that chip in those card
- 1:31readers, or, I don't know, a hard
- 1:33wallet, because if we stop to think,
- 1:35everything made here in Brazil, my
- 1:37friend, wasn't built to withstand an AI
- 1:39that scans firmware; in 15, 16 minutes
- 1:41it can solve it. They didn't think
- 1:44about that back in the day, man. And
- 1:46that's going to be our topic for today.
- 1:47So subscribe to the channel, leave a
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- 1:54please, because this is the biggest
- 1:56tech pub around. There's no mentorship
- 1:58or course selling here. Now grab your
- 2:02coffee because I'm going to explain to
- 2:04you, man, why I thought what this guy
- 2:05did was a complete absurdity, which
- 2:07people even sent me a ton during the
- 2:08live stream. I said, "Man, what a
- 2:09boring topic." But, man, hold on, hold
- 2:11on, because today we're going to talk
- 2:12about it, man. If you have a Dell
- 2:13monitor, for example, Dell goes and
- 2:15publishes an EXE firmware update, and
- 2:17inside that EXE, it usually has the
- 2:19real firmware, already decrypted. And
- 2:21nobody, man, who publishes this stuff,
- 2:23they don't want anyone messing with it,
- 2:24because, damn, it's in an EXE, it's
- 2:26locked. The normal reverse engineering
- 2:27process, man, was basically the
- 2:29following. You'd take that EXE and
- 2:31extract it with that binwalk tool. In
- 2:33the normal reverse engineering process,
- 2:35man, how did that work? Basically, you
- 2:38could take that EXE and perform an
- 2:40extraction on it using binwalk. Then
- 2:42what would happen? You'd find the DLL
- 2:45for that thing and you'd open it with
- 2:47Ghidra, which is a framework from the
- 2:48NSA, man. Then you'd, man, you'd go
- 2:52there, find, for example, the
- 2:53encryption function, try to understand
- 2:55the algorithm, guess more or less where
- 2:57the key is, then, man, you'd test,
- 2:59you'd fail, test again until that thing
- 3:00worked, man. And usually the people who
- 3:04work with this, guys, they take, I
- 3:05don't know, an average of one to two
- 3:07days, sometimes even a few weeks, man,
- 3:08or months or years, it really depends
- 3:10on the challenge, man. The low-level
- 3:12guy says that for him it would take
- 3:14more or less a week to be able to get
- 3:16this done, man, because it varies a lot
- 3:18from professional to professional. The
- 3:20more experienced guys, man, are quick
- 3:21on their feet. And what did the AI do
- 3:23in this case, big guy? In 15 minutes,
- 3:25it went there, basically it extracted
- 3:27the container from inside the firmware,
- 3:28it opened Ghidra and it didn't open it
- 3:30the usual way, it opened it how? Via
- 3:32MCP, man. It identified the function
- 3:34that created it, big guy. Man, this was
- 3:36wonderful. It identified the function
- 3:38that created the blob of the the the
- 3:40key itself, you know? It identified the
- 3:42decrypt function inside that thing. And
- 3:44the craziest part, man, it wrote a
- 3:46Python script to be able to decrypt
- 3:48that stuff, man. Man, he ran the script
- 3:51and it simply, what? It worked, man.
- 3:53But then it didn't just work, it did
- 3:56something that, man, it was just
- 3:59mind-blowing, man. After decrypting
- 4:02this thing, it basically verified it,
- 4:05grabbed the MD5 stored at the offset,
- 4:07the 0x1CD of the binary, cleared the
- 4:10field, computed its own MD5, and
- 4:12compared the two, man. Dude, the crazy
- 4:15thing is that it matched, it actually
- 4:17worked, man. After that, it went and
- 4:20performed an entropy analysis, hell,
- 4:22understood the byte patterns, the reset
- 4:24vector, checking if it was in the right
- 4:26place, if the code was consistent with
- 4:28the Dell monitor chip he was using,
- 4:30even an MStar 8051 microcontroller. Man
- 4:34, everything was lining up, dude.
- 4:36Everything matching, everything, damn,
- 4:37working perfectly. And if we stop to
- 4:40think about it, man, it did the work
- 4:42and proved to the guy it was right, in
- 4:4316 minutes, just like he said in the
- 4:45video. Then, buddy, you might think: "
- 4:49Well, fine, the AI helped a hacker hack
- 4:51a monitor, that's what happened, all
- 4:53good, time to leave the video." Nothing
- 4:56new. That's where you're wrong, my
- 4:58cloud code pro player. Forget the
- 5:00monitor, man. Forget this monitor talk.
- 5:02Let's bring this to a real-world
- 5:04example, for our daily lives. What's
- 5:06happening is that this reverse
- 5:07engineering thing has become accessible
- 5:09, it's become easy, man. Over on X, I
- 5:11started seeing Yuri Dev himself. He
- 5:13managed to reverse engineer his air
- 5:15conditioner, made this thing where he
- 5:17could control his AC directly from his
- 5:19computer, man, directly from his Mac.
- 5:21Put a little bar there and everything,
- 5:23man, it looked beautiful. I'm seeing
- 5:24several projects today on X popping up
- 5:26because of this reverse engineering
- 5:28thing that guys are doing on everything
- 5:30, man. But there's another side to it,
- 5:32because what people used to need was
- 5:34maybe a top-tier expert, a guy with, I
- 5:35don't know, 5 years of experience in
- 5:37Ghidra, in Assembly, whatever, someone
- 5:39who really knew their stuff about
- 5:40cryptography. Now, buddy, hell, anyone
- 5:43can do this stuff, man. And they do it,
- 5:45hell, with prompts, with libs, it's
- 5:46already got a bunch of stuff, a bunch
- 5:47of projects, a GitHub already showing
- 5:49this off, man. And do you know what
- 5:51that means in practice, my player? The
- 5:53guy from the low-level channel actually
- 5:56ends his video saying exactly that, man
- 5:58, that it's going to generate way more
- 6:00bugs, because anyone can do reverse
- 6:02engineering now, and by doing that,
- 6:03they can find a bug, find a little
- 6:05vulnerability that, man, people didn't
- 6:07count on being this accessible, you
- 6:09know? Because before, buddy, to find a
- 6:11bug in firmware, man, it was impossible
- 6:13, nobody explored it, very few people
- 6:14were interested in that, man. I mean,
- 6:17you needed tons of time, for example,
- 6:18you needed a group with knowledge,
- 6:20really sharp people, but now it's cheap
- 6:22, man. It’s accessible, damn it. 15
- 6:23minutes, 16 minutes, the guy can
- 6:25explore the thing, man. And for us, the
- 6:29old-school programmers who are now
- 6:30current vibe coders, you, me, any dev,
- 6:33man, especially my friends who are now
- 6:35firmware programmers, these guys are
- 6:37going to feel it firsthand, because the
- 6:39software we publish, the firmware we,
- 6:41for example, end up embedding in
- 6:43something, man. The API we manage to
- 6:46expose, all of that now gets scanned by
- 6:48artificial intelligence. And what’s
- 6:51most bizarre is that, man, we know the
- 6:53number of people who are exploring the
- 6:55web applications we have, the ones we
- 6:57create, man, it's absurd. Now, damn,
- 6:58people are going to be exploring the
- 7:00hell out of firmware, man. And the same
- 7:02low-level guy, who is a hacker and all,
- 7:04he's on the side of the attackers, he
- 7:06said a phrase that was quite
- 7:07interesting, quote. The ability to
- 7:09dismantle poorly designed things and
- 7:11find flaws is now what? It's a
- 7:13commodity. It’s literally something
- 7:15anyone can do, man. You don't even need
- 7:16to have the free time. You leave that
- 7:18agent running there, and that thing
- 7:19will find some crap and just throw it
- 7:20out like this. Take it, there’s your
- 7:22crap, man. Anyone can do that. This put
- 7:25a bug in my ear, man, I was like: "Man,
- 7:27look at the point we might reach,
- 7:29because over in the United States, a
- 7:31guy went there, gave an example of a
- 7:32Dell monitor, for instance." We are
- 7:35seeing people, man, taking over the
- 7:37firmware of air conditioners and such,
- 7:38and controlling them. But here in
- 7:41Brazil, man, we have much worse
- 7:42problems, and, damn, if you use an AI
- 7:44like this, something focused on reverse
- 7:46engineering, man, it could destroy
- 7:48everything in 15 minutes. There’s a
- 7:51lot of absurd stuff that, man, is
- 7:52basically served on a silver platter
- 7:54for you to do. Let’s bring up a
- 7:55practical example. Think about banks
- 7:57now. Think about the banks. Today we
- 7:59know that banks have apps and such,
- 8:01it’s okay, it’s working. But we
- 8:03know that many banks, especially when
- 8:05we talk about corporate accounts, they
- 8:07still run some, man, incredibly legacy
- 8:09stuff. Like that old Java applet, that
- 8:12thing just running there. Man, there
- 8:14were even recent cases of one that only
- 8:15opened in Internet Explorer, dude.
- 8:16I’ve had reports of that, man. So
- 8:18think with me, man, it’s still there.
- 8:21There are many banks today that run, I
- 8:22don't know, a Java servlet on an old
- 8:24Tomcat server, with that .war file that
- 8:26, I don't know, nobody has touched in
- 8:2810 years because they’re thinking, "
- 8:30man, it's working, I'm not touching
- 8:32that, dude." And if we stop to think,
- 8:35the people who built that, man, they
- 8:36might not even be alive, there
- 8:38shouldn't be any documentation, there
- 8:39shouldn't be anything. Because you ask
- 8:41yourself, man, if a bank hasn't updated
- 8:43or modernized that system to this day,
- 8:44man, why didn't they? Because if you
- 8:46touch that crap, the whole thing stops,
- 8:47man. But now there’s simply an AI
- 8:49that can, for example, open this binary
- 8:51and find weak points. And this is a
- 8:53major risk, in my view. I might be
- 8:55talking total nonsense. So, if you work
- 8:56at a bank, man, and you see the, man,
- 8:58the risk this could pose, damn, comment
- 8:59down below. Because now, for example,
- 9:01if you're on the other side, if you,
- 9:04man, use one of these legacy bank
- 9:05systems to pay bills, make transfers,
- 9:08all that banking stuff, man, you now
- 9:10have to start worrying about: "man, did
- 9:12these guys audit this?" Is this really
- 9:14secure? Could someone come along and
- 9:16pull off some Illuminati scheme to
- 9:17cause a disaster? No, man, I don't know
- 9:19, man. I think it's just one more
- 9:20problem for us to think about, man. And
- 9:21there’s another side to it, too.
- 9:22Think about credit card machines. That
- 9:24one, man, you swipe on those CELO ones
- 9:27from Rede, Getnet, PagBank. Every one
- 9:29of those little machines has firmware.
- 9:31You know there’s firmware in there.
- 9:32And, bro, every firmware today can have
- 9:34vulnerabilities. And there’s, we can
- 9:36take, man, a lot of content from Penny
- 9:37Gu where he shows, man, so many
- 9:39vulnerabilities in that stuff. But that
- 9:40wasn't as explored, it was more of a
- 9:42hardware hacking crowd, you know? To be
- 9:44able to find keys and such. But, man,
- 9:46now pretty much anyone can find
- 9:48vulnerabilities inside these things,
- 9:49bro. And it gets worse, man. Think
- 9:51about the hardware wallet guys, man.
- 9:53That Ledger, that Trezor. And we had a
- 9:56recent problem in one of those where,
- 9:57damn, a huge vulnerability that ended
- 9:59up leaking people’s keys and such,
- 10:00and they made a killing off that thing.
- 10:03Trezor, just so you have an idea, man,
- 10:05they still publish their firmware to
- 10:06this day, and the firmware is open on
- 10:08GitHub, so anyone can access their
- 10:09repository today and manage to read
- 10:11that stuff. So its security sort of
- 10:13already starts from the principle that
- 10:15the code there is public. So if someone
- 10:17is clever enough to reverse engineer it
- 10:19, understand how it's generating that
- 10:20key, man, everything today is
- 10:21vulnerable, bro. It can go south, you
- 10:23know? And there's a lot of stuff, man.
- 10:25Damn, there are so many applications,
- 10:26so many things you run, for example, ah
- 10:28, I have a device here of mine, there
- 10:29are basic things like that, and you say
- 10:31: "Ah, man, I never updated this crap,
- 10:32I never updated the firmware of
- 10:33anything, man." It’s all there, man,
- 10:35full of vulnerabilities. If you have
- 10:36something really important, man, the
- 10:38chance of it going south is huge. Then
- 10:39you’ll say: "Ah, man, Devin, come on,
- 10:41that’s paranoia, dude." That's
- 10:42paranoia, damn it. Stop with that.
- 10:44Usually there’s a team focused on
- 10:46that. The systems are super secure and
- 10:48such. The guys are already looking at
- 10:49this, they’re already fixing it, man.
- 10:50Then, my friend, I throw this question
- 10:52back at you, man. Are are these guys
- 10:55really prepared for did they even see
- 10:57this coming, man? Because, for example,
- 10:59if something was created back in 2008
- 11:01and maybe it was built by an outsourced
- 11:03company or an outsourced dev who might
- 11:05have already left the company, man; or
- 11:07maybe, I don't know, it’s using a
- 11:09Servlet version that is, man, already
- 11:11super legacy, full of bugs, man. How
- 11:12much software do you think is on the
- 11:14market today with these characteristics
- 11:16, man? I don't know anything. I only
- 11:18know that looking from the dev side,
- 11:19looking inside our dev bubble, that man
- 11:21, I don't think we're very prepared for
- 11:23this, man. That is exactly what ends up
- 11:25worrying me. And in that low level
- 11:26video, which I'll even leave here in
- 11:28the description, it must be hitting
- 11:29almost 1 million views already, man. I
- 11:31think it’s a mandatory thing for you
- 11:32to watch. Watch this video, I’ll
- 11:34leave it in the description here for
- 11:35you to watch easily, because I think
- 11:36the part where he talks about the hack
- 11:37in this movie, man, well, that's the
- 11:38least of it. I think that's silly and
- 11:40all, everyone is already exploring this
- 11:42and that. But the thing that, man, that
- 11:45really makes you suspicious, is that he
- 11:46doesn't end, for example, with an
- 11:48answer to this problem, he ends with a
- 11:49question. I want to leave this question
- 11:52for you now who are watching this video
- 11:54, man. If the AI can currently reverse
- 11:57engineer proprietary software in about
- 11:5915 minutes, man, how long does it take
- 12:02to find a flaw, for example, in your
- 12:04bank's legacy internet banking, in the
- 12:06app you use to invest, in the card
- 12:08machine you swipe every day on the
- 12:10street, or in that Hardware Wallet you
- 12:12bought to store your crypto keys? I
- 12:15don't know the answer, I don't know
- 12:16anything. I'll leave it for you to
- 12:18answer here in the comments if it's my
- 12:19paranoia or not. Not subscribed to the
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- 12:26this together. Big hug. See you in the
- 12:27next video.
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