Emergency Discussion #3: Xi Visits Trump — Transcript
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- 0:01Okay, good afternoon. I am we are I'm
- 0:04currently um
- 0:07>> Hi guys.
- 0:08>> Hi. Could you please mute yourself?
- 0:11Okay,
- 0:12>> let um I I I need to mute everyone
- 0:14first. Okay, we have
- 0:19>> Yeah, just please everyone just mute
- 0:22yourself. Okay. So, what I'm going to do
- 0:24first is I will do a presentation and
- 0:27today it's a meeting uh it's a
- 0:29discussion on
- 0:33um President Ciding Ping's visit to the
- 0:37United States and that's all we will
- 0:39discuss. All right. So for an hour I
- 0:42will go over what I think happened,
- 0:45provide some background, some context,
- 0:48some analysis, and then um you'll be
- 0:51invited to ask questions, make comments
- 0:55or observations. But I want this um
- 1:00discussion to be centered only on the
- 1:04topic today. So, I would really
- 1:07appreciate it if we stick to the rules
- 1:10and um I will be very harsh today. So,
- 1:13if you are getting off topic or you're
- 1:15asking a question that's not really
- 1:16relevant
- 1:17um to the discussion and I will cut you
- 1:21off. All right? I apologize for that.
- 1:23But um you know these meetings uh zoom
- 1:27discussions is really an opportunity for
- 1:28us to go deep into a topic um and you
- 1:34know USChina relations obviously is a
- 1:37very very um important topic and I want
- 1:41to make sure that everyone um today has
- 1:46a pretty good understanding
- 1:49of what's going on.
- 1:53Okay. Um so first of all um I want to
- 1:58thank everyone for your support. So I am
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- 2:29it's just been wonderful. Um, and this
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- 2:46can't I can't express enough gratitude.
- 2:49This entire trip uh back to North
- 2:51America has been um fantastic. Uh we've
- 2:55met so many wonderful people. Um there's
- 2:59um a good friend Reza who hosted us in
- 3:01Los Angeles and uh when we went back to
- 3:05Toronto um some friends helped look
- 3:08after my son Chris. So I could spend
- 3:10about 8 10 hours a day in the library
- 3:12really uh grinding away doing some
- 3:15really deep research into the occult
- 3:17series that I will present. Um now we
- 3:20are staying with some friends near
- 3:22Ottawa and um um so this is really the
- 3:27life I've I've always wanted and uh you
- 3:30guys have made this possible. So thank
- 3:33you so much everyone. Okay. So I am
- 3:36going to
- 3:38um start my presentation. So I'm going
- 3:41to share the screen and please um if you
- 3:43are if you are
- 3:46um
- 3:48new if you just come in please remember
- 3:50to mute yourself. Um and and again um we
- 3:55Fritz did you have a question?
- 3:58Uh I'm about to start.
- 4:00>> Yes. Uh, I just wanted to make sure that
- 4:02you were aware this is being recorded by
- 4:04some by a third-party AI notetaker. And
- 4:07if you're not aware of that, I think it
- 4:09should be shut off.
- 4:11>> Oh, okay. Um, who who is using a third
- 4:16party AI
- 4:18recorder?
- 4:21Um Um, and how do I shut it off? I'm
- 4:26recording this myself and this will be
- 4:28uploaded to YouTube.
- 4:30Um, and why I don't understand why this
- 4:34is being recorded by by a third party.
- 4:36Um,
- 4:38and I I I don't even know how to
- 4:41>> I think the moderator could probably
- 4:42kick the fireflies.ai note.
- 4:46>> Okay. All right. Yeah, let me look for
- 4:48it. Okay. But thanks so much, Fritz. Um,
- 4:51>> and while you're at it, I'll say that
- 4:53the moderator can also mute everybody.
- 4:57>> Yes, I am the muter. Okay, I I'll I'll
- 4:59just mute everyone. Thank you. All
- 5:00right, so I'm going to meet everyone and
- 5:03I'm going to figure out Okay.
- 5:16Okay. All right. So, I' I've turned off
- 5:18the third party. Um again the entire
- 5:22point um all this conversation
- 5:25um is to really go deep into China and
- 5:29I'll be doing so over the next few
- 5:30months um because as you know um this is
- 5:34only the second of four meetings that
- 5:36are scheduled between Trump and CE this
- 5:38year. So uh um Trump first visited China
- 5:43in May and that went well but didn't
- 5:47really produce anything. This visit went
- 5:49okay but again he didn't produce
- 5:51anything. There are two more visits
- 5:52scheduled.
- 5:54>> Uh there are two more v uh uh v visit
- 5:58scheduled. One will be in Apac in China
- 6:01in Shenzhen in November and Putin is
- 6:03scheduled be to be there as well and
- 6:06presidenc has invited Trump to China and
- 6:09Trump has said yes. So I think it's very
- 6:11likely all three leaders will be there
- 6:13for the first time in a long time. Putin
- 6:17of Russia, CE of China, and Trump of the
- 6:19United States. And that'll be very
- 6:20interesting. And then, um, in December,
- 6:25uh, there will be a one more meeting in
- 6:28Florida at Trump's National Golf Course.
- 6:30Um, and Presidency will will will
- 6:33probably be there for the G20 summit.
- 6:34Okay. All right. So, um, we will be
- 6:38discussing more of China
- 6:40um, as this year progresses. And so what
- 6:45I'm going to do now is I'm going to
- 6:46provide some background on what's
- 6:48happening and then we can um
- 6:52um
- 6:54um go try to make predictions about what
- 6:59might happen. Okay. All right. So I'm
- 7:00going to share my screen. Okay. So
- 7:02again, I apologize if I um
- 7:06if um you guys have problems with this.
- 7:11I um I'm terrible with technology. All
- 7:13right. So, I'm going to play this one
- 7:14from the start. Okay. All right, guys.
- 7:16Okay.
- 7:18So, um before the meeting, there was a
- 7:23meeting between Treasury Secretary Scott
- 7:25Bessant and his counterpart uh Hul Hifan
- 7:29in uh New York at the JP Morgan offices
- 7:32and they were trying to figure out uh a
- 7:35trade deal.
- 7:37And as you know there is a pause to the
- 7:41trade war between United States and
- 7:42China and um they basically extended by
- 7:47by a few months. So it didn't seem as
- 7:49though there was some major results out
- 7:55of these meetings. They were supposed to
- 7:57discuss the possibility of establishing
- 8:00an AI committee global committee to
- 8:03discuss uh guard rails and all that. I I
- 8:06mean that happened either. So these
- 8:09meetings they are happening but for
- 8:11whatever reason they are extremely
- 8:14lackluster. Now you can make the
- 8:17argument and it's a very legitimate
- 8:18argument that right now US China
- 8:21relations are under tremendous strain.
- 8:24Right? So remember there is another US
- 8:26citizen um I forgot his name but he was
- 8:30in South China doing some research and
- 8:32he was apprehended by the Chinese
- 8:34authorities and detained and arrested
- 8:37and um on the suspicion of spying u and
- 8:42that has caused a lot lot of tension
- 8:44between um China and the United States
- 8:48also um the United States have accused
- 8:51China of providing targeting information
- 8:54um for the Iranians which has allowed
- 8:58the Iranians to kill Americans. And so
- 9:01there's a lot of conflict between China,
- 9:05United States. And what I will say is
- 9:10um my intuition is that a lot of this
- 9:15isn't really conflict between the United
- 9:17States and China. A lot of it is given
- 9:20factions within both United States and
- 9:22within China who are trying to uh
- 9:26railroad each other who are trying to
- 9:28embarrass each other's factions. Okay.
- 9:31So another thing this is right now
- 9:34United States there are certain factions
- 9:36that want reproachment with China. There
- 9:38are also many different factions that
- 9:41want um to
- 9:44um increase belligerance to increase
- 9:49this conflict between China and United
- 9:50States and that's what's really driving
- 9:53um a lot of these news leaks. Um so uh
- 9:59that is um um okay.
- 10:05All right. This is the schedule of the
- 10:09meeting. And something to remember to to
- 10:11note is how President President Trump
- 10:14went directly to the Air Force Joint
- 10:18Base Andrews to greet uh President C.
- 10:22And this was a very big deal. Uh the
- 10:23last time this happened was when Obama
- 10:26went and greeted uh the Pope. Um, and
- 10:29this is Trump showing the greatest
- 10:32hospitality to President C. There was
- 10:36also a flyover and um um the two first
- 10:43ladies also spent a lot of time
- 10:46together. There there was this big state
- 10:49dinner um and this is only the second
- 10:51state dinner that Trump has hosted in
- 10:54his second term. The first was uh for
- 10:56King Charles. Uh and so again, Trump
- 10:59thinks very highly of Presidency of
- 11:02China, and he's he's gone really all out
- 11:05to welcome uh his friend.
- 11:09I want to show you this list of CEOs who
- 11:13attended the um White House banquet.
- 11:18Now, um sort of things to note about
- 11:21this list. Number one is it's unusual.
- 11:25Uh, sorry JL, did you did you have a
- 11:28question?
- 11:30Yeah. Could you unmute yourself, JL?
- 11:34All right. [snorts] All right.
- 11:37Um, yeah. So, certain things to note
- 11:40about this list. Number one is these are
- 11:42all CEOs. There are no cultural figures.
- 11:46Uh this is unusual because uh
- 11:49traditionally when there are these um
- 11:52white house banquetss, cultural figures
- 11:55are invited. So um you know someone like
- 11:58Lang Lang who is a Chinese pianist, he
- 12:00would have been invited maybe maybe uh
- 12:03uh Khloe Dao who is an Oscarinning
- 12:06Chinese director. Um she would have she
- 12:09would have been invited in the past. Um
- 12:11an actor like Jackie Chan or Michelle
- 12:13Yao would have been invited in in the
- 12:15past. So clearly the emphasis is purely
- 12:19on business. Uh that's point number one.
- 12:22Point number two is um as you can see
- 12:25from this list most of these people
- 12:28happen to work in the AI high-tech
- 12:31sector and that uh really highlights
- 12:34Trump's priority. Um, as I've mentioned
- 12:37many times in previous lectures,
- 12:40right now there's civil war going on in
- 12:42the United States between the Wall
- 12:43Street people as well as the Silicon
- 12:45Valley oligarchs. And it's really a war
- 12:48between finance and technology. And this
- 12:51list shows how um um Trump is being
- 12:57supported by the Silicon Valley
- 12:59oligarchs. Now you will see there are uh
- 13:02financial people on this list including
- 13:04Larry Frink and Stephen Schwarzman. I
- 13:07think it's because they sort of straddle
- 13:09these two worlds between finance and AI.
- 13:11Larry Fink and Steven Schwarzman are
- 13:14heavy heavy investors in AI databases
- 13:17especially Larry Fink. Another thing I
- 13:19will point out is that Stephen
- 13:20Schwarzman is very very close with both
- 13:22the White House and with Jonah High. um
- 13:24he's he's been in um a very effective
- 13:27middleman between China and the United
- 13:29States for the long longest time. So it
- 13:33shows the priority. So this list of
- 13:35CACOs shows the list so shows you the
- 13:38priorities of the White House. Another
- 13:39thing that I will point out is there
- 13:42were no Chinese entrepreneurs at the
- 13:46White House banquet. This is extremely
- 13:49unusual. Okay. um in May when Trump
- 13:54visited China, he brought with him most
- 13:56of these people. Um and China um invited
- 14:02a lot of their own entrepreneurs. Um so
- 14:06for example, one of the most famous
- 14:07pictures taken during that time was
- 14:10between Le Jun and Elm Mus. El Mus of
- 14:12course is the world's wealthiest man and
- 14:14Lelay Jun was at one point uh China's
- 14:17wealthiest man. I'm not sure if he's
- 14:18still number one, but for some time he
- 14:21was number one. And he's considered like
- 14:22the uh best entrepreneur China has right
- 14:26now. So, I was extremely taken aback. I
- 14:29was extremely surprised when um um they
- 14:33they were not invited to the dinner. And
- 14:36then you ask yourself, what's going on?
- 14:38I mean, a lot of things that you would
- 14:39expect to happen um um are not
- 14:42happening. So something to appreciate
- 14:45about Chinese politics is it's
- 14:48everything in China. It's always
- 14:50politics number one. Everything else is
- 14:52second including um economics.
- 14:56Um so I think that what's really going
- 14:59on is Trump has been very clear and
- 15:05direct in his demands. Uh he basically
- 15:08wants China to open up its financial
- 15:09sector. He wants um more Chinese
- 15:13students to come to United States.
- 15:15Basically, he wants China to invest more
- 15:17in the United States and allow American
- 15:20companies make more money in China.
- 15:22That's what Trump wants. He's he's a
- 15:23business person, right? And China has
- 15:25been very very reluctant to do so. And I
- 15:29don't think it's because China is trying
- 15:30to protect its own sovereignty. Um I
- 15:34think it's because no one is in charge
- 15:37of China right now. No one person has
- 15:40the authority to make any controvers
- 15:42controversial concessions. I know this
- 15:44is a very provocative statement, okay?
- 15:46But so like let me slowly explain to you
- 15:48my logic. Okay, my argument to you today
- 15:51is that China there's no there's really
- 15:55no one in charge. Um it's rule by
- 15:57committee. Okay. So there are three
- 16:01paradoxes that I've seen that I I I saw
- 16:05during uh uh this summit. Okay. The big
- 16:10paradox is there were no Chinese
- 16:12entrepreneurs present. What what this is
- 16:14important is it violates two important
- 16:16Chinese principles. The principle of
- 16:19reciprocity and equality. Okay. So if
- 16:23you come to my house and um um I invite
- 16:29these Chinese entrepreneurs then when I
- 16:31go to your house then then you know it's
- 16:35expected that I bring Chinese
- 16:36entrepreneurs to as well. This is the
- 16:38idea of reciprocity. Um it's like giving
- 16:40gifts right if I give you a nice gift
- 16:42you have to return you have to give me a
- 16:43nice gift back in return. Um it also
- 16:46violates the principle of equality
- 16:48right. Um so China sees itself as a peer
- 16:52to the United States. So the question
- 16:53then is why is it that all these U you
- 16:57American um titans of industry were
- 17:01present but these um uh Chinese titans
- 17:05of industry were not present. That does
- 17:07that mean to say that China does not
- 17:09have any titans? Does it mean to say
- 17:10that Chinese economy is not important?
- 17:12It's it's a really weird thing. Okay,
- 17:15remember in in China um these things
- 17:18happen for political purposes. So
- 17:21clearly
- 17:22um um you know the things were arranged
- 17:27in order to deliver a certain political
- 17:29message to the Chinese people. And so
- 17:31what we're trying to figure out is what
- 17:32is this message? Okay, that's f that's
- 17:35the first paradox. The second paradox is
- 17:40so there was a rumor this year in May
- 17:43that China would invest $1 trillion
- 17:46in the United States primarily setting
- 17:48up these EV factories, right? So China
- 17:51has these EV cars that are very uh uh
- 17:56popular, very cheap um and they dominate
- 17:59the global market. So, there was this
- 18:02rumor that China would announce a
- 18:04trillion dollars in um investment in the
- 18:07United States. It it may still happen.
- 18:08Remember, there's still three uh months
- 18:12to go um before the year ends. Um and
- 18:16they might save it for the G20. Okay? It
- 18:19may still happen, but it has not
- 18:20happened yet. And this is very strange
- 18:23because usually you know when you are u
- 18:26a Chinese president you come to China
- 18:28and you come to United States well you
- 18:30want to show how powerful you are by
- 18:32offering a major gift and the only thing
- 18:35that you know presidency has offered so
- 18:37far is like two pandas right uh that's
- 18:40kind of strange okay and like the third
- 18:42paradox is there have been no major
- 18:45announcements during this summit um in
- 18:49fact you can argue that um uh things
- 18:54have regressed since the May summit. Uh
- 18:56usually they would want to create a
- 18:58create a narrative where things are
- 19:00progressing, but it seems as though
- 19:03there's there's there are these major
- 19:05setbacks um this um this time around.
- 19:08Okay. All right. So, this is what Donald
- 19:12Trump said. Um one major major uh
- 19:17agreement is China and United States
- 19:20have agreed to rename artificial
- 19:21intelligence into super intelligence.
- 19:24Yippee we did it. Okay. Yay. This is a
- 19:29major accomplishment guys. We changed
- 19:31the name. Um again usually a Chinese
- 19:35president when he visits United States
- 19:39um he tries to offer a gesture of
- 19:42goodwill. The judge of goodwill is he
- 19:44wants to invite 100,000 young Americans
- 19:46to study in China um over the next five
- 19:49years. Okay. Sure. Um
- 19:54Ellen Mus telegraphed this a few days
- 19:57before the actual announcement which
- 19:59says that you know um they are in
- 20:03coronation.
- 20:05Um, okay. So, to understand what's going
- 20:09on, uh, you need to understand three
- 20:11things about China. And I I I know this
- 20:13is going to be hard. Okay. Once you
- 20:15accept these three things, then
- 20:17everything starts to make more sense.
- 20:19So, when you read, when you consume
- 20:21media, New York Times, BBC, CNN,
- 20:24um, you are misled into believing
- 20:28certain things. And I think that's why
- 20:31the expectations were so high for the
- 20:33summit. But I will but living in China,
- 20:37knowing China very well. Um in fact I
- 20:39know China better than uh any any other
- 20:41country in the world. Right? Um I will
- 20:43say there are three major
- 20:44misunderstandings about China. The first
- 20:46and what people don't appreciate is the
- 20:48Chinese economy is in decline. Okay. It
- 20:51peaked back in uh 2014 2015 and now it
- 20:55is in steady
- 20:57>> decline. Um that's point one. Point two
- 21:02is Cin is not really in charge of China.
- 21:07This is I I I I I know this is going to
- 21:09shock everyone uh in this room, but he's
- 21:14not in charge. If he were really in
- 21:16charge, if anyone were in charge, China
- 21:19would not be behaving the way it's
- 21:21behaving. China um has been extremely
- 21:24passive these past uh two years. It's
- 21:28done really nothing. And this this is
- 21:31while the world is burning. Um so China
- 21:34has been extremely quiet and passive.
- 21:37And a lot of people are saying well this
- 21:38is just China's strategic long-term
- 21:43patient thinking. It's that's not true.
- 21:46It's because no one's in charge. That's
- 21:48a real reason. Um and so this gets my
- 21:51third point which is like China does not
- 21:53is not able to think strategically
- 21:55because no one's in charge. it can only
- 21:57respond to crisis like the US invasion
- 22:00or the US attack on uh Iran. Okay, so
- 22:03that's my central central um argument to
- 22:07you today. Okay.
- 22:11Um so let's get to the first question
- 22:15which is like why is it like no Chinese
- 22:17entrepreneurs showed up at the same bank
- 22:20and a lot of reason why is Chinese
- 22:23entrepreneurs have been under a lot of
- 22:25pressure lately. Okay. It started with
- 22:27um like two three years ago with Jack Ma
- 22:30falling from grace. But now it's even
- 22:32extend to uh Ren Jangf who is the
- 22:35founder of Huawei. Now if you know
- 22:37China, you know that Huawei, it is a
- 22:40Chinese military company and it is
- 22:42probably the most powerful company in
- 22:43China right now. It receives billions uh
- 22:47possibly hundreds of billions of dollars
- 22:49in state subsidies mainly to create its
- 22:52own semiconductor
- 22:54uh ecosystem.
- 22:56And for the past couple of weeks,
- 23:01um, both Renjan Fate, the founder of
- 23:04Huawei and his daughter, Mwen Jo have
- 23:08disappeared.
- 23:09It is impossible for people to get in
- 23:12touch with them, including
- 23:15um the the the executives who work under
- 23:17them. And this is extremely extremely
- 23:20unusual. Uh Huawei, it is a public
- 23:24company
- 23:26um and it has a massive PR operation in
- 23:32order to squash any rumors and it has
- 23:36not done so. So this is extremely uh
- 23:39unusual and there are certain rumors.
- 23:42Okay. Uh there are rumors that uh he has
- 23:46fled the country. I don't know where he
- 23:48would go to but there are rumors that
- 23:49he's fled the country. There are rumors
- 23:52that um he is under investigation.
- 23:56Um so why would he be under
- 23:58investigation? Well, it turns out that
- 24:02um Huawei has been promoting the fact
- 24:05that it's developed its own
- 24:06semiconductors that are high-tech and
- 24:09it's been able to circumvent the US
- 24:12dominant global supply chain. Right? So
- 24:14it doesn't need uh fargo machines from
- 24:18ASML. doesn't need to buy chips from
- 24:20Nvidia. And it turns out that um
- 24:26um the rumor is it turns out that uh
- 24:31this is all BS. It turns out that
- 24:33whatever innovations Huawei has made um
- 24:37in these past few years, it's because
- 24:38they've smuggled in N invidia chips uh
- 24:41through other sources. And quite
- 24:44honestly, living in China, being
- 24:46Chinese, knowing China very well, I
- 24:48would say it is far more plausible that
- 24:51Huawei was smuggling in chips than um
- 24:56Huawei developed its own innovative
- 24:58semiconductors. Okay, just being being
- 25:00Chinese and knowing how China works,
- 25:02Chinese are much more likely to cheat
- 25:04than to innovate. Okay. So, um
- 25:08regardless, I think, uh the Huawei first
- 25:12family is in a lot of trouble and um the
- 25:17reason why they they haven't announced
- 25:18this yet is it's completely
- 25:20embarrassing. It's entirely possible
- 25:22that um Random Fay will return
- 25:26um and everyone will pretend nothing
- 25:28happened. Okay? Uh and the reason why is
- 25:31it's would be too embarrassing for China
- 25:34to admit that Huawei was lying to
- 25:36everyone all along. Okay. Uh but as as
- 25:40you can see uh because because of this
- 25:43topic because of of this um um issue the
- 25:48Chinese would be reluctant to showcase
- 25:49entrepreneurs at the White House because
- 25:53it really doesn't know who it can trust.
- 25:56Okay. All right. Um,
- 25:59some other news is there are rumors that
- 26:03the Chinese are investigating Deepseek
- 26:06and Kim.
- 26:08Okay, this is huge because Deepseek um
- 26:12has been a source of tremendous national
- 26:14pride these past few years. So remember
- 26:15what happened was that um open AI
- 26:17released chat GPT and then using a
- 26:21fraction of the resources of the time of
- 26:25the personnel of open AI deepseek was
- 26:28able to create a much more efficient
- 26:31large language model than chat uh than
- 26:34than open AI and again this was a source
- 26:37of tremendous pride. It seems like um
- 26:41it's not like Deep Seek said that was
- 26:44because they created more efficient
- 26:46algorithms um that was able to parse the
- 26:49internet [clears throat] much more fast
- 26:51than um um OpenAI. It seems that it
- 26:55seems like that's not what happened. It
- 26:56seems what happened was that deepseek
- 26:57basically created like thousands um
- 27:02possibly millions of accounts and
- 27:04basically mirrored or stole the beta
- 27:07database of um of open AI and just used
- 27:11it for um itself. It's a practice that
- 27:15these Chinese um AI companies are
- 27:18continuing to use. And the problem with
- 27:20that is
- 27:22um what's been happening is that Chinese
- 27:24military personnel have been asking AI
- 27:26some really sensitive questions and
- 27:28providing some really sensitive um
- 27:30Chinese military intelligence to the AI
- 27:34and and this is going back to um the US
- 27:39companies. And so basically these US AI
- 27:42companies are now able to
- 27:45um have their own um Chinese military
- 27:50database, have access to the Chinese
- 27:52military personnel database. And um as a
- 27:55as a result, this has compromised uh
- 27:58Chinese national security interests. And
- 28:02again, guys, I live in China. Chinese
- 28:05people do not innovate. They just cheat
- 28:06and they steal. And this is what
- 28:08happens. Um this this is this is what
- 28:10happens when when when we you we pull
- 28:12this crap. Huawei thought it was being
- 28:14really smart by um smuggling these
- 28:17Nvidia chips. But these immediate chips
- 28:19probably had some back door that allowed
- 28:22um national US um the US NSA to create
- 28:27back doors to access Huawei secrets.
- 28:31Okay? Like look look think about this.
- 28:33Okay? Just just just use just a thought
- 28:34experiment. For years and years, you
- 28:38know that Huawei engineers have been
- 28:40stealing IP left and right from Western
- 28:44companies. Okay, there are videos of uh
- 28:47Huawei engineers going into
- 28:51um you know telecom firms in the United
- 28:53States and then stealing the hardware.
- 28:56Okay, there videos like that. If you
- 28:58know that they're going to do that and
- 29:01you know that all they're going to do is
- 29:03reverse engineer what you have and they
- 29:05don't really know what the source code
- 29:07is, then um why aren't you going to
- 29:11create these back doors? Sorry, Liquid
- 29:13Monk, did you have a question or
- 29:16comment?
- 29:20>> Yeah. Could you unmute yourself?
- 29:22>> Hello. Good afternoon. Uh I have
- 29:26something to support what you're saying
- 29:28about the extending the technology. Uh
- 29:31in 2013 I was in BMW Munish in Germany
- 29:37and I was having a tour and the tour
- 29:40guide said that um because of uh by then
- 29:44German model X6 was being sold very well
- 29:49in China. So the BMW management decided
- 29:54to open a factory in China and ship
- 30:04only
- 30:11and
- 30:14from German they investigated the fact
- 30:18that why is is it happening? that we
- 30:21don't have any accidents in Germany and
- 30:24we have a lot of accidents in China. And
- 30:26if it it popped up that those employees
- 30:30who were working in in that factory
- 30:33after 8 hours shift, they were going 60
- 30:36kilometers away and there was another
- 30:38factory which was exactly the copy paste
- 30:42of what the the Germans did in in there
- 30:45in China. and and uh the reason for that
- 30:48was just to copy the the whole concept
- 30:51of the car. So that resulted that the
- 30:54management pull out everything from from
- 30:57China and started to shape the cars uh
- 31:00back as as they were up to the 2012.
- 31:05But the technology was lost and uh we
- 31:08have a result that now that the cars
- 31:11that Chinese are producing are much
- 31:14better than the cars that we produce
- 31:16Europe
- 31:18>> right
- 31:18>> in in a sense technology is is
- 31:21everything is power based. So just to
- 31:25support your your idea because I believe
- 31:27it's
- 31:28>> okay thank you. Okay. Um Robert Lee
- 31:31>> that's true.
- 31:33>> Oh yes. uh professor song something I
- 31:36don't agree with you because I work in
- 31:38semiconductor for over 10 years in 2010
- 31:43movie AI good connection with Huawei CU
- 31:46and all these guys but Huawei in fact
- 31:50before half of their employers is is
- 31:53foreigners okay but but after 2018
- 31:57especially Israel okay because Huawei
- 32:01have a strong team in Israel to dur
- 32:03semiconductor but after 2018 Huawei shut
- 32:08a lot why because the USA government see
- 32:11that if you work in Huawei it's
- 32:14impossible for you to get to get into
- 32:16USA that is the biggest problem okay you
- 32:19should understand that Huawei is is is
- 32:22facing much much challenges than anybody
- 32:25can see because the US government use
- 32:27all their power to against one company
- 32:30while equipped to be all the technology
- 32:33all the high-tech gent of the USA it's
- 32:37it is it's it's the factor and all the
- 32:40all the chipset suit in China have the
- 32:44bad have the um have had the bad uh bad
- 32:47door okay
- 32:49>> yeah thank you no that's absolutely
- 32:51right the the United States is intent on
- 32:54destroying Huawei the reason why is
- 32:56Huawei has been very successful at
- 32:57penetrating foreign markets which is a
- 32:59direct threat to US companies such as
- 33:02Intel Nvidia and and Apple. And that's
- 33:05why um US is intent on destroying Huawei
- 33:08and any companies that are trying to
- 33:11penetrate into the global market. If
- 33:13Huawei just stayed in China, then the
- 33:16United States would obviously no problem
- 33:18with Huawei stealing every uh American
- 33:21IP. Um because
- 33:24>> the US government also
- 33:26>> Yeah, go ahead. also also in the world
- 33:29only Huawei can compete with the Silicon
- 33:32Valley value okay plus Israel okay but
- 33:36in in fact now the the is the S value
- 33:39don't have any advantage of the of the
- 33:41innovation why they don't have the new
- 33:44technology I totally agree that the A
- 33:46comp company okay and and as is a
- 33:49semicconnected innovation why I work in
- 33:52I'm the guy very deeply work in in in
- 33:56Israel Okay, I know that for example I
- 33:58give you a practice example $1 million
- 34:01US. Okay, if you have some technical
- 34:04engineers to make some project
- 34:07you the engineer cannot deliver in in
- 34:10timely and quality high quality but I
- 34:14only use one of the budget okay and one
- 34:18of the 1 million US dollars okay high
- 34:20engineered in Israel okay the Israel
- 34:22engineer can deliver in high quality and
- 34:24timely okay in fact the Israel is is a
- 34:27core is is a is a center of the semic
- 34:31innovation
- 34:32Silicon Valley is gone.
- 34:33>> Yeah. No, I I Yeah, thank you for
- 34:35pointing that out. Yes, it's very true
- 34:37that Silicon Valley has become extremely
- 34:39corrupt, inefficient, and all they're
- 34:42interested in is rent syncing. Okay,
- 34:45they want to control Washington DC and
- 34:47they want to prevent innovation from
- 34:50happening. That's why um you know they
- 34:53are banning these open Chinese open AI
- 34:57models. Um that No, that's exactly
- 35:00correct. and and you know that that's
- 35:01exactly the issue facing um the United
- 35:05States right now. Okay. All right. So so
- 35:06let me continue. All right. Let let me
- 35:09finish this presentation and then then
- 35:10we can ask questions. But thank you so
- 35:12much for that Robert Lee um and Liquid
- 35:15Monk. Okay. So again the Chinese having
- 35:19problems with their entrepreneurs. Um it
- 35:23seems as though that these Chinese
- 35:25technologists have not been transparent
- 35:28about what's really going on and in fact
- 35:30a lot of these Chinese technology
- 35:32companies
- 35:33um they are cutting corners in order to
- 35:36please state officials because as
- 35:39because remember in maybe in the United
- 35:41States these entrepreneurs like Elmas
- 35:43they have all the power but in China
- 35:46these these entrepreneurs no matter how
- 35:48wealthy they become they are still
- 35:49servants to the date. Okay. All right.
- 35:54Um, so another thing that's been
- 35:56happening and this is really important
- 35:58is on September 15th, China announced
- 36:01um, uh, changes to its exit and entry
- 36:05administration. And basically the thing
- 36:07to uh remember is now China has the
- 36:12authority to ban any entrepreneurial and
- 36:17technological and scientific talent from
- 36:19leaving the country for no reason
- 36:21whatsoever. They can just say national
- 36:23security and they can prevent you from
- 36:26leaving the the country. And so um I
- 36:30think this is a response of the fact
- 36:32that there are a lot of wealthy
- 36:34entrepreneurs who are trying to flee the
- 36:37country. So it's really interesting
- 36:39what's happened these past 30 years
- 36:41because um you know in 2000 from 2000 to
- 36:442020
- 36:46if you were a Silicon Valley engineer
- 36:48who was of Chinese descent what you
- 36:50would do is you would take your
- 36:52knowledge and the code that you create
- 36:55and maybe you would steal some some IP
- 36:57as well. you fly back to China to create
- 37:00a company and you get a lot of financing
- 37:03and state support in order to do so and
- 37:05you create a lot of and you made a lot
- 37:07of money that that way
- 37:09um and that's what was happening from
- 37:112000 to about 2020. Okay, these
- 37:14thousands of these Chinese engineers
- 37:17coming back from Silicon Valley and then
- 37:19using their knowledge and knowhow to
- 37:21create Chinese versions of American
- 37:24companies and this minted lots of
- 37:27millionaires and billionaires. But now
- 37:29what they want to do is take this money
- 37:31and go to the west because unlike China
- 37:35there's respect for private property
- 37:37rights in the western world and China
- 37:41has been trying very hard to stop this
- 37:44trend and now it just made the decision
- 37:47you know what we don't care if you want
- 37:49to leave uh but you made a lot of money
- 37:51in this country we won't let you leave
- 37:54okay um and this is scaring a lot of
- 37:58very wealthy people. But it just shows
- 38:00you the tumultuous state um of the
- 38:03Chinese economy and of the Chinese um
- 38:06middle class right now. Okay. Um this is
- 38:12a new book called Broken China by Logan
- 38:15Wright. I've actually not read the book,
- 38:18but his central argument, okay, is
- 38:21something that I've been arguing my
- 38:22entire life, um my entire time in China,
- 38:26which is that um in 2008,
- 38:31um after the subcomm
- 38:37uh the United States, the Chinese
- 38:38leadership freaked out uh because they
- 38:41were afraid that the global economy
- 38:42would collapse and China would lose its
- 38:44export market And so the response of the
- 38:47Chinese government was to invest heavily
- 38:49in infrastructure spending. This is this
- 38:51is not because the Chinese think long
- 38:53term, okay guys? It's not because they
- 38:55have this great grand vision for how to
- 38:58foster innovation in China. They do not.
- 39:01It was a response to the subprime crisis
- 39:04in the United States. And um this bubble
- 39:11uh was great for the entrepreneurial
- 39:15elite, but it's led to lots and lots of
- 39:17debt. It's it led to a lot lot of
- 39:18corruption. And now we're living in a
- 39:20time when they're trying to unwind this
- 39:22debt, unwind this this corruption. Okay.
- 39:25So you think that well China, you know,
- 39:27United States has $40 trillion in debt.
- 39:29That's really bad. Actually, the Chinese
- 39:31debt situation is much much worse than
- 39:33the United States. And people people
- 39:35don't appreciate this. So if you don't
- 39:37believe me, then I suggest picking up
- 39:38this book uh Broken China by Logan
- 39:41Wright. I'm not going to read it because
- 39:42this the system I've known uh for a long
- 39:45long time and people are now slowly
- 39:47waking up to the fact that um China the
- 39:51Chinese are not these brilliant
- 39:54Machavelian strategists. They're just
- 39:56corrupt as hell. Okay? It's it's that
- 39:59simple, guys. There's no there's no
- 40:00magic here. They're just corrupt.
- 40:04All right, let's continue. All right,
- 40:07another thing that has been happening in
- 40:09China that um has gotten a lot of
- 40:11international attention is the political
- 40:14struggle within China. So this is the
- 40:18highest military body in China. You can
- 40:21say it's really the most powerful body
- 40:22of China of China. seven people, the
- 40:25military commission which controls the
- 40:27military. And
- 40:30there are supposed to be seven members
- 40:32and after like three years of purchase,
- 40:34we are now left with two.
- 40:37And there are some who say, well, it
- 40:39just shows the consolidation of power
- 40:42under sea. Look, if you are a dictator,
- 40:46you don't want this crap to happen. It
- 40:47makes you look really, really bad. Okay?
- 40:50It makes you look like a fool because
- 40:54think about this, okay? What happened? I
- 40:56mean, if you're a dictator, what
- 40:57happened here? Why are you um
- 41:02why is a seven member commission only
- 41:04staffed by two people? Well, there are
- 41:06different possibilities. One is you're
- 41:08just stupid and you appointed people you
- 41:09can't trust and you had to fire them.
- 41:11Which case, why you dictator? Okay,
- 41:13that's number one. Number two is well
- 41:15they were corrupt and that's what the
- 41:16trans media reported but why do you
- 41:19again why do you appoint corrupt people
- 41:22to this position okay what this really
- 41:25shows us is the intense um um u
- 41:31political struggles within China where
- 41:33different factions are trying to like
- 41:35knock off different different people and
- 41:37because of the intense political
- 41:38struggle China is in stalemate right now
- 41:41again this looks China look really
- 41:43really bad. Seven, there's a seven
- 41:45member commission. What you should be
- 41:47doing is replacing these people as you
- 41:50go. Okay. The fact that this is so open
- 41:54and it's so blatant and so transparent
- 41:56shows you like really no one's in charge
- 41:59and it's just like these different
- 42:00political factions going after um each
- 42:04other.
- 42:06All right. So um having gone through
- 42:09that I want to explain to you a quick
- 42:11history of the people's republic of
- 42:13China so you understand the context in
- 42:15which all all this political struggle is
- 42:18happening. And once you understand the
- 42:19history I think it's pretty fairly
- 42:21pretty easy to project into the future
- 42:24and see where China is is heading. The
- 42:26year is 1949 and America happens. this
- 42:30gorilla army that has was basically
- 42:33fighting a gorilla uh insurgency for the
- 42:37past 20 years is now ruler of China
- 42:41under mudon and mudon and people don't
- 42:44appreciate this right they think of him
- 42:45as this communist ideologue he was not a
- 42:49communist ideologue he was first and
- 42:50foremost a mezzanic figure
- 42:53um who believe that he was god's
- 42:59champion
- 43:00who would help Chinese China stand up
- 43:02and be a dominant power in the world.
- 43:06And that's why they ushered in something
- 43:08called the greatly forward. The great
- 43:10leap forward was a plan with to within
- 43:12five years to change China from an
- 43:15agricultural
- 43:17nation into an industrial powerhouse.
- 43:19That basically meant just shifting
- 43:21farmers from the fields to the
- 43:25factories. Okay? And if you know any
- 43:28Chinese history, you you will know that
- 43:30this was a disaster
- 43:32for China. Uh it led to a great famine
- 43:36where millions of people cherish. And
- 43:38the reason why is they focus so much on
- 43:40industrial production that they forgot
- 43:43to grow food and because at this time
- 43:46China was an archy meaning to really
- 43:49trade with the rest of the world. China
- 43:52refused to ask for help from the rest of
- 43:53the world. Rather than just say to the
- 43:56world, you know what? Um, socialism
- 43:57doesn't really work guys and we we need
- 44:00to buy some food from you. Um, they
- 44:02rather just let their people starve.
- 44:05Um, eventually the greatly forward, the
- 44:08famine caused by the greatly fort will
- 44:09will lead to something called the
- 44:10cultural revolution which happened
- 44:11between 1966
- 44:13um and 1976.
- 44:15What people don't appreciate about the
- 44:18cultural revolution is it happened
- 44:20actually in different phases. Okay. So
- 44:23because of the great lead forward um
- 44:26Ma's leadership was challenged by the
- 44:29rest of the communist party and so the
- 44:31communist party elite got together and
- 44:34says listen Mao um you were a great
- 44:37leader but maybe you're too old and
- 44:38maybe it's time to transfer power to
- 44:40younger technocrats who know how to
- 44:42manage the affairs of the state. and
- 44:46Maong went with it went along with this
- 44:48for a few years but then he decided that
- 44:52you know what I'm the messiah uh people
- 44:55follow me and these technocrats will
- 44:59just turn China into a corrupt olararchy
- 45:03which was the case for thousand years
- 45:06and why so why do we fight the
- 45:07revolution so Mosone uh promoted the
- 45:10cultural revolution where he encouraged
- 45:12the people to rise up against the
- 45:15bureaucrats, against the bureaucratic
- 45:17elite and overthrow them. And for about
- 45:20two three years, there were these
- 45:22massive purges of the bureaucratic
- 45:25elite. But then uh Ma was like, you know
- 45:28what? Uh these kids, these teenagers,
- 45:30the red guards are kind of out of
- 45:32control. So he called in the military to
- 45:34purge these revolutionaries. Okay, that
- 45:37that was the second phase of the cult
- 45:38revolution. And now the military is in
- 45:41in charge. and Mongon appointed a
- 45:43successor called Ling Bao who was
- 45:45basically head of the military but then
- 45:47they had a falling out and then Ling
- 45:49Bella uh tried to escape to Russia and
- 45:51he was killed when his plane crashed and
- 45:55um that created the third phase of the
- 45:57cult revolution which is basically China
- 45:58became a theocracy under Ma Sudon and it
- 46:02it remained so until 1976 when Mao died.
- 46:05When Mal died, he appointed a successor
- 46:08who will continue his legacy. But the
- 46:12Chinese bureaucratic elite, the the
- 46:14communist old guard, they got together
- 46:16and said, "No, we don't want any any
- 46:19more of this crap. We want be we want to
- 46:21restore our own power base." And so
- 46:24under Danoping, they came back. Okay.
- 46:28Now what's really important for us to
- 46:30appreciate is from their perspective
- 46:33from the perspective of the communist o
- 46:36guard the worst thing that happened to
- 46:39China was not capitalism it was not um
- 46:43the sinoviet split it was
- 46:47ma mez mezzianism okay so they were
- 46:51afraid of two things one they were
- 46:55really afraid that a dictator would
- 46:57arise and um basically restore Ma's
- 47:02legacy. They were afraid of Maism. They
- 47:04were also really afraid of people's
- 47:06religious tendencies because the cult
- 47:08revolution was a theocracy. Um they were
- 47:11really afraid of the power of religion.
- 47:14And so under Danoping they created all
- 47:16sorts of policies in order to ensure
- 47:19that these two things maism and
- 47:21messianism would never ever arise in
- 47:26China. And to make and then to
- 47:27facilitate this process the Dona Ping
- 47:30visited the United States. This is uh
- 47:33Donoping in Texas putting on a 10gon
- 47:36hat. And this was of course a diplomatic
- 47:40breakthrough because it endeared the
- 47:42American population to you know this old
- 47:47communist um zealot. And uh this allowed
- 47:51for uh if China and United States to
- 47:54eventually establish um a very strong
- 47:57trading relationship which became the
- 47:59basis for modern day uh globalization.
- 48:02But the key for us to remember is that
- 48:04under Da under Danoping they created
- 48:07policies to move away from both mauism
- 48:10and messianism. Okay. And they had
- 48:12certain rules that they all obeyed.
- 48:17Okay. Rule number one is the
- 48:22uh party elite, the revolutionary
- 48:25vanguard and their children are
- 48:26untouchable. The princlings are not
- 48:29touchable. Okay? You can go after other
- 48:32political opponents, but you cannot go
- 48:34after the families of the red nobility.
- 48:39Okay? The red nobility would cheer in
- 48:42the spoils. They would split up China
- 48:45and div up the spoils and they would not
- 48:47go after each other like they did during
- 48:49the course revolution. Okay? They would
- 48:51rem maintain unity. That's rule number
- 48:54one. Um rule number two is never again
- 48:59will one person be allowed to have all
- 49:02the power
- 49:04in China. It will be
- 49:07consensus. It will be committee
- 49:09decision- making. um it it it'll be a
- 49:12very tenocratic tenocratic process.
- 49:15That's number two. Uh number three is um
- 49:20from now on the focus will be on
- 49:24economics.
- 49:25Okay.
- 49:27Rule number four is the military will
- 49:30stay out of political affairs. This is
- 49:33really important. All right. there's be
- 49:36a clear democration between the military
- 49:38and pol the politics. Uh the military
- 49:42will enjoy the spoils economic reform,
- 49:46right? To keep them happy, but they will
- 49:48not engage in political
- 49:52um affairs. All four rules are important
- 49:55for us to remember. Okay? Why? Because
- 49:57they broke broken all four rules today.
- 50:00And that this is why it's led to this
- 50:03political stalemate that we have in
- 50:05China. So to summarize the four rules,
- 50:07okay, number one is red nobility is
- 50:09untouchable. Rule number two is there
- 50:11will never again be a supreme leader
- 50:13like Maong. Rule number three is just
- 50:16focus on on economics. Uh and that's
- 50:19good. And then number four is the
- 50:21military must stay out of political
- 50:23affairs. All right. Okay. And I'll show
- 50:26you that what's happened under Cinping
- 50:29is they broken all four rule four rules
- 50:31and that's why China today is a dumpster
- 50:32fire. Okay. So um Dong did usher in a
- 50:38time of like a new consensus but there
- 50:43were certain people who felt left out
- 50:45and this this was the intellectual class
- 50:47the universe students and so yeah the
- 50:51military the red nobility they benefited
- 50:53from all of those reforms but the
- 50:56intellectual class felt they wanted to
- 50:58get involved as well and that's what led
- 50:59to the tenants square protest and that's
- 51:01what also led to the crackdown. out and
- 51:04of course this really damaged China's
- 51:07international standing and so um when
- 51:11Dung died and Jung and Jim came to power
- 51:16they were intent on instit
- 51:18institutionalizing all four of these
- 51:21major consensus okay and um under Jung
- 51:25and they start this process but then
- 51:28what will h what will happen is that uh
- 51:30huge will then cement this process
- 51:33process and one major
- 51:36um result of this process is massive
- 51:40spending on infrastructure and a lot of
- 51:43people are like well this just shows you
- 51:44how farsighted
- 51:46uh China is problem is China didn't have
- 51:48the money to spend on this
- 51:50infrastructure why they spent money on
- 51:52this infrastructure again was a response
- 51:54to a crisis which is 2008 uh great
- 51:57financial crisis in United States
- 51:58remember at this time in history China's
- 52:01main driver of e of economic reform was
- 52:03its export industry. But once it
- 52:06recognized that you know what the rest
- 52:08of the world could go bankrupt and
- 52:10renegade on um on on trade promises then
- 52:14China realized it need to spend more
- 52:15money on infrastructure. And the best
- 52:18way to understand this infrastructure
- 52:19spending
- 52:20like the best way to understand this is
- 52:22it was not
- 52:24about building an a modern nation. It
- 52:27was about trying to appease as many
- 52:30different political factions as possible
- 52:32within China. And the best way to do
- 52:33that is to bribe everyone. Okay? like
- 52:36like that's how Huin went about were
- 52:38able to um basically calm things down
- 52:42while global markets were in turmoil
- 52:44turmoil like let this rob local elites
- 52:47let let you know let let these bankers
- 52:49these real estate developers these
- 52:50government officials steal together from
- 52:53the nation and then the the world like
- 52:56China will be very peaceful and stable
- 52:58and for the longest time it worked right
- 53:01until Ping came into power and the
- 53:05problem with Sidin Ping is he is not of
- 53:08the tenocratic mode. Okay, he didn't
- 53:10rise in in the technocracy like the way
- 53:12that gentleman Jongi Huentau did. He
- 53:16rose as part of the red nobility. His
- 53:18father is considered one of the um eight
- 53:21immortals. Okay. Uh one of the eight
- 53:24families that rule China and as part of
- 53:28Danoping's basically giving up all of
- 53:30spoils, right? They got Shinjzhen. Um
- 53:32and as you know Shinjzhin is is one of
- 53:34the wealthiest parts of China today.
- 53:38What's really so um
- 53:43when Cing rose to power he was
- 53:46considered the
- 53:48uh he was considered a compromised
- 53:50candidate. Uh um so the red nobility and
- 53:54the technocratic elite all saw him as
- 53:58the least likely to rock the boat. Now,
- 54:01now we can understand how ironic that is
- 54:04today. Back back back in 20 2012, 2013
- 54:06when they anointed him, um he was
- 54:10considered the most stable, the least
- 54:13likely to rock the boat, the most
- 54:15consensus candidate. Okay. Um and the
- 54:18reason why is his opponent was Porsche.
- 54:21All right. So you had two candidates.
- 54:23You had Ping, you had Borcheli. Borchai
- 54:26was charismatic. He was ambitious
- 54:29and he was a proven leader. Okay. He was
- 54:33uh when he was mayor of Dalian
- 54:38um Dalian was one of the fastest growing
- 54:40cities in the world in China and then he
- 54:43went over to Chongqing and he basically
- 54:47promoted cult revolution policies and he
- 54:50got a lot of state subsidies for
- 54:52Chongqing. He went out when he went
- 54:53after the mafia. And so a lot of of
- 54:57Chinese people thought this is a great
- 54:59leader, but a lot of Chinese leaders
- 55:01leaders like, "Oh my god, if he comes to
- 55:04power, he'll probably end up like Ma
- 55:06Zone." And so of these two, Sin Ping,
- 55:10who at that time had absolutely no major
- 55:12accomplishments and Bilai, a very
- 55:14charismatic, ambitious person, you
- 55:16always pick the other guy. Okay? You
- 55:18pick the guy who is less likely to rock
- 55:20the boat. But then what happened is a
- 55:24series of events that um no one really
- 55:27expected and which allowed Cinping to
- 55:31cement power in a way that was
- 55:33unprecedented
- 55:35um in modern Chinese politics. Okay,
- 55:38remember Dano Ping created all these
- 55:40institutional systems to ensure no one
- 55:43like Maong would arise again and then
- 55:45slowly
- 55:47uh Singping broke down all these
- 55:49systems. All right. So the first thing
- 55:52that happened is that after the party
- 55:56elders after the Chinese picked Borilai
- 56:00sorry picked Singi Ping to be leader
- 56:02Borilai states a coup. Okay. He tried to
- 56:06wrestle power from uh Xiinping and that
- 56:10and this made the party leadership um um
- 56:16HH did do you have a question or
- 56:18comment?
- 56:21>> Oh J uh yeah uh just just like a really
- 56:24quick question. Um can you I think that
- 56:26slide you had was like Tenement Square,
- 56:28wasn't it? Can you just comment on
- 56:29Tenement Square and do you think it was
- 56:31a like a genuine democracy protest or
- 56:34like a CIA color revolution thing? Sorry
- 56:36for interrupting. I just like a quick
- 56:38question. Yeah.
- 56:40>> Yeah. So um I what I said was tenon
- 56:42square was a response by the
- 56:45intellectual class to what they what
- 56:48they felt was being left behind by these
- 56:51reforms. Okay. So the reforms that the
- 56:53party was instit was was in instituting
- 56:57benefit primarily the military as well
- 56:59as well as the red nobility and the
- 57:02intellectual class felt that um they
- 57:06were being left left behind. One thing
- 57:07that they really protested uh one demand
- 57:10that they had was at this time um like
- 57:13China was still a socialist country. So
- 57:15you went to a university in China and
- 57:17you graduated. They sent you off to like
- 57:19a farway place in the middle of nowhere
- 57:21to work as a bureaucrat and you were
- 57:23like screw that I want to be in Beijing
- 57:24or Shanghai. Okay. So I I wouldn't say
- 57:27it was a color revolution. I wouldn't
- 57:28even say it was a dem democracy protest.
- 57:30It was really about um a privileged
- 57:34group group in society university
- 57:36students who wanted more power and more
- 57:38rights. And honestly after after 10
- 57:40minutes square they got what they got
- 57:42everything that they wanted. Okay. Um,
- 57:45that's what I that's what I think
- 57:46happened. All right. Okay. So, back to
- 57:49Borilai. He stages his coup d'eta and so
- 57:53the partip party leadership had no
- 57:55choice but to rally around Siing Ping
- 57:56and give him more power in order to
- 57:58stamp out the threat of Borilai because
- 58:01remember um under Dou Ping different
- 58:04families control different regions in
- 58:06China. So this one guy was able to
- 58:09summon an ar could possibly summon an
- 58:10army of millions. And so the only way to
- 58:13stamp out this threat was for everyone
- 58:15to unify under Sing Ping. Okay. Um and
- 58:21so uh but there's a rule like the red no
- 58:24is not is not touchable. He can't
- 58:25actually kill this guy. So he's not
- 58:27under house arrest even though he did
- 58:29try to uh launch a coup d'eta against
- 58:31the communist party. Okay. So that's one
- 58:33major event that helped to solify and
- 58:35consolidate seiz.
- 58:38Another major event was a trade war,
- 58:39right? because um after Donald Trump and
- 58:44C's being met, Donald Trump basically
- 58:48launched a trade war against China and
- 58:51that really helped to solidify C's power
- 58:55because um previously a lot of the power
- 58:59was centered in the entrepreneurial
- 59:01middle class but because they were under
- 59:03threat from this trade war that allow
- 59:06the political system to consolidate more
- 59:09power. Okay, so that's number two.
- 59:11Number three, of course, and the most
- 59:12important is CO. Um, I was in China
- 59:15during CO and when CO first happened, I
- 59:19was like, oh, you know, this will last a
- 59:22like maybe two days and it'll go away.
- 59:24And I know this because in 2003, I also
- 59:26experienced SARS. And what happened was
- 59:28that for like during SARS, there was no
- 59:31government mandate. There was no
- 59:32government order. People just decided to
- 59:34lock themselves in the in apartments for
- 59:36two weeks and then SARS went away.
- 59:38That's how diseases work. That's how
- 59:40these viruses work. There has to be like
- 59:42these um like uh infection points,
- 59:45contagion points for it to spread. And
- 59:47people are just in their apartments.
- 59:48Then this thing goes away really
- 59:50quickly. And if you know about viruses,
- 59:52you know, like their uh malicious
- 59:55nature, their mealinity,
- 59:58it decreases over time. Um but instead,
- 1:00:02China chose to lock down the country for
- 1:00:04four years, which is really weird. But
- 1:00:06what it but why that happened is it
- 1:00:09allowed Ciinping to consolidate power
- 1:00:12onto himself. He created this huge
- 1:00:14bureaucracy around him um to in order to
- 1:00:19uh deal with COVID. Now to be fair,
- 1:00:22okay, what I do know is when the virus
- 1:00:25first broke out in Wuhan, it was a
- 1:00:28boweapon. It was killing a lot of
- 1:00:30people. The reporting back then was that
- 1:00:32when you first got the virus in Wuhan,
- 1:00:35your lungs burned. They're like a
- 1:00:37furnace, right? So, it was a real
- 1:00:39serious threat. And that's what gave C
- 1:00:41the authority to lock down the entire
- 1:00:43country for four years uh and create
- 1:00:46this really absurd authoritarian regime.
- 1:00:50Look, look, look. This is a picture of
- 1:00:53um guys getting swabs.
- 1:00:56If you're a medical professional, you
- 1:00:59know for a fact these swab tests are not
- 1:01:01very accurate. Okay? Don't tell me that
- 1:01:06like just by swabbing your your mouth,
- 1:01:08I'm able to diagnose effectively whether
- 1:01:11or not you have COVID. It was all just
- 1:01:13theater. Okay. But but if you got
- 1:01:17unlucky, okay, if you got if you tested
- 1:01:18positive, well, you were sent to the
- 1:01:21detention center for a month. It this is
- 1:01:23what's worse in the cultural revolution.
- 1:01:25Okay? And why they did this was it
- 1:01:26allowed CDP to consolidate power uh
- 1:01:31under himself.
- 1:01:33And um the other thing that he did that
- 1:01:35was really important was he collapsed
- 1:01:37the real estate bubble. Now to be fair
- 1:01:41a lot of things he did I actually agree
- 1:01:42with because remember I said that during
- 1:01:44the huena wbal period it was just
- 1:01:47blatant corruption um and it was just
- 1:01:49too much debt and he inherited this mess
- 1:01:52and he had he had to take certain steps
- 1:01:54in order to address these issues or or
- 1:01:57they would just blow up. Um um and I I
- 1:02:01agree with what he did with in the real
- 1:02:03estate market, which is he basically
- 1:02:05caused the real estate bubble to
- 1:02:08collapse by refusing to bail out
- 1:02:12companies uh that were in default. Okay,
- 1:02:15so Everrand was the classic example
- 1:02:17where it was basically a Ponzi scheme
- 1:02:19and they thought they were too big to
- 1:02:21fail. they could always secure funding
- 1:02:23from the local government and uh see put
- 1:02:26an end to that and that has caused this
- 1:02:29um cascading effect it's just chain
- 1:02:32reaction where China's real estate
- 1:02:34market has collapsed and and again I
- 1:02:36think this is a very positive thing um
- 1:02:39because the real estate market was
- 1:02:40completely unsustainable
- 1:02:42um but uh that's also allowed him to
- 1:02:44consolidate power
- 1:02:47um so these are things that he was not
- 1:02:49really in control of but there are
- 1:02:50things that that were happening and it
- 1:02:53was clear
- 1:02:55that um he might have had some part in
- 1:02:59them. Okay. So remember how high said in
- 1:03:011980s basically the bureaucratic elite
- 1:03:04got together and says like you know we
- 1:03:05agree not to kill each other the way
- 1:03:09that that we were killing each other
- 1:03:10during the cult revolution. Okay like we
- 1:03:12agree to play by certain rules and
- 1:03:15conventions. We agree to play nice. And
- 1:03:17Stephen Ping broke all these rules. So
- 1:03:19one example is um so um this is Ling Jin
- 1:03:24Hua and Ling Xin Hua is actually the
- 1:03:27secretary to President Huenta. If you
- 1:03:30know anything about the Chinese system,
- 1:03:32you know that these people are extremely
- 1:03:34powerful people because they are the
- 1:03:36gatekeepers, right? So if you want to
- 1:03:37meet uh Huenta, you have to go through
- 1:03:40this guy. Also, um he's basically Huaw's
- 1:03:43backman. Okay? So if you want to bribe
- 1:03:45Huenta for anything, you have to bribe
- 1:03:47this guy. Um, early on in Singin Ping's
- 1:03:51tenure,
- 1:03:52Ling Hua's son died in a Ferrari car
- 1:03:55crash and it was pretty morbid. Okay.
- 1:03:59Um, the details have have not been um
- 1:04:03have not been confirmed, but there were
- 1:04:05rumors that like like the guy was naked
- 1:04:08with like two other girls and they were
- 1:04:10both drunk when they had this horrific
- 1:04:13car crash. because of this horic
- 1:04:16horrific car crash. There's a massive
- 1:04:18investigation into uh Ling Jingua the
- 1:04:21father, Linguis's son, and they found
- 1:04:24out of course he was corrupt and so they
- 1:04:26jailed him and this did a lot in
- 1:04:28destroying Huenta's power base.
- 1:04:32There are rumors that this is complete
- 1:04:34setup that um um basically they some
- 1:04:40secret police um create c create a
- 1:04:44situation in order to implicate the
- 1:04:46father. Okay. Um and you know lingua
- 1:04:48himself believes that his son is
- 1:04:51innocent and his son was basically
- 1:04:53murdered in order to frame him. Okay.
- 1:04:56But this uh event and and again I can't
- 1:04:59confirm the veracity of what happened.
- 1:05:02Okay. The Chinese authorities say was
- 1:05:03say it was an accident. I can't say it
- 1:05:05was accident or not. But this did um uh
- 1:05:08weaken
- 1:05:10power base and allow she to further
- 1:05:13consolidate power. Another thing is
- 1:05:17the New York Times got hold of W Java's
- 1:05:20financial records which is by the way
- 1:05:23impossible
- 1:05:25to do. I actually know the reporter who
- 1:05:27broke the story. Okay. So, in 2012,
- 1:05:30there was a New York Times reporter,
- 1:05:31David Barbar Roa, who broke the story of
- 1:05:35the Wal family's corruption.
- 1:05:38And to do break to break the story, he
- 1:05:41went through thousands and thousands of
- 1:05:44SEC filings.
- 1:05:47And honestly, um, maybe if you had a
- 1:05:50staff of 10,000, you had like 10,000
- 1:05:52years, you could pull this off. He was a
- 1:05:54he was able to pull this off in a matter
- 1:05:56of days which tells me like someone was
- 1:05:58feeding him this information. Yes, I
- 1:06:00understand you did go for the filings
- 1:06:02and yes you did prove that these
- 1:06:05companies tie back to the WA family. I
- 1:06:08understand that. Okay. But someone had
- 1:06:09to point you put you in the right
- 1:06:10direction. It was like trying to find a
- 1:06:11needle in the haststack. Someone had to
- 1:06:13tell you exactly where to look for you
- 1:06:15to find that. All right. So uh and then
- 1:06:18you we can speculate as to who might
- 1:06:20have pointed this reporter for the New
- 1:06:22York Times in the right direction. Okay.
- 1:06:25And we can also say like because of the
- 1:06:28scandal wal power base was severely
- 1:06:31depleted that allow C to further
- 1:06:33consolidate power. Again you're not
- 1:06:35supposed to do this crap there. There's
- 1:06:36a consensus where the top leadership
- 1:06:39would not engage in these political
- 1:06:40struggles against each other because
- 1:06:42they did this during the cultural
- 1:06:43revolution. They know exactly what what
- 1:06:44happened during the cultural revolution.
- 1:06:46Um, so you can see Dungeon Ping's
- 1:06:48consensus uh breaking down.
- 1:06:52Um, you would also have like these
- 1:06:55really silly leaks where somehow US
- 1:06:58intel got news that the US Army had
- 1:07:01missiles filled with water instead of
- 1:07:03fuel. Okay. And this
- 1:07:08>> Sorry guys. Um, could you please mute
- 1:07:10yourself? Okay.
- 1:07:13And um the the big um um thing is in 20
- 1:07:202022
- 1:07:22Xinping was able to get a third term. So
- 1:07:26the constitution says that a president
- 1:07:28should only be in power for two terms.
- 1:07:30He's he broke that convention uh
- 1:07:32established by Dja Ping and and his
- 1:07:35people. and now and he got a third term
- 1:07:38and the peak of his power was um getting
- 1:07:42a third term but also having hua
- 1:07:45escorted out of the great hall of the
- 1:07:48people and there's a lot of uh
- 1:07:50speculation as to what happened
- 1:07:53um why hujint was es escorted out um the
- 1:07:57thing to remember is whenever something
- 1:07:59is televised in China it's a highly
- 1:08:02choreographed event they spend days with
- 1:08:06thousand people figuring out the camera
- 1:08:07angle, the lighting,
- 1:08:10the um clothes leader uh the clothes
- 1:08:13that that the leaders wear, the um um
- 1:08:17how the leaders are depicted. Okay, they
- 1:08:20spent a lot of time on this. They have
- 1:08:23like each of these guys uh even a uh
- 1:08:27provincial leader will have thousands in
- 1:08:29in a PR office just going coming over
- 1:08:32how this person is portrayed on the
- 1:08:34internet and in the uh media. Okay, this
- 1:08:38is really important uh for these people.
- 1:08:40So So the idea like okay well Huin
- 1:08:44shouldn't have been there and they have
- 1:08:45to remove him because you know he got
- 1:08:47lost somewhere that's absurd. This is
- 1:08:49this is a highly choreographed event
- 1:08:50meant to embarrass Hujin Tao uh to show
- 1:08:54that Sidin Ping was in the ascendency.
- 1:08:58Okay. So 2022 basically the consensus
- 1:09:02that Trump sorry the consens consensus
- 1:09:05that Donoping had established was now
- 1:09:07completely broken and now you have one
- 1:09:10man in charge. The problem is, okay, and
- 1:09:15and and this is hard for this is really
- 1:09:17important for you guys to remember is
- 1:09:19China's much too big for one person to
- 1:09:24control. Also, Mao was a messiah who
- 1:09:28proved himself the Messiah by obtaining
- 1:09:31power through the will of God. Um, this
- 1:09:34guy, he inherited his throne. Okay. So
- 1:09:39because he saw himself as ma basically
- 1:09:43all these different political factions
- 1:09:45decided they needed to get rid of this
- 1:09:47guy and the and the best way to do that
- 1:09:49is you destroy
- 1:09:51the people who who who who was who who
- 1:09:53who he put into power. Okay. So in
- 1:09:58China, personnel is politics, politics
- 1:10:01is personnel. That the way you um
- 1:10:04basically uh struggle against each other
- 1:10:06for power is by going after each
- 1:10:09person's associates. Okay? So the first
- 1:10:11person to fall was foreign minister
- 1:10:13Ching Gang. And this is a huge scandal
- 1:10:15in China where Chingang was personally
- 1:10:17appointed by President Xiinping. And
- 1:10:20then um news got out that he had a
- 1:10:23concubine
- 1:10:25uh who being a decided to have a
- 1:10:29child in the United States. So this
- 1:10:32child was a US citizen. The child's
- 1:10:34father was Ching Gang. Okay. And so um
- 1:10:39this this got out. We can speculate as
- 1:10:41to how they got the news. I I I would
- 1:10:43imagine that they got the news from the
- 1:10:44Americans. Um so so uh one thing to
- 1:10:49appreciate is these US spies work very
- 1:10:51very closely with these Chinese spies
- 1:10:52because ultimately um um what they're
- 1:10:56interested in are these domestic
- 1:10:58political struggles as opposed to these
- 1:11:00international um political struggles and
- 1:11:02so he was forced to resign. Then the
- 1:11:06defense minister very shortly was forced
- 1:11:08to resign because of corruption and it
- 1:11:12and again people struggle as to like how
- 1:11:14this happened.
- 1:11:16Then
- 1:11:18um you have two generals who are forced
- 1:11:21to resign because of corruption. Okay.
- 1:11:24So all these rules that Dung had
- 1:11:27established in 1980s to to make to
- 1:11:29ensure that Malism would never arise
- 1:11:31again. Okay. Number one
- 1:11:34um
- 1:11:36um um never allow someone to consult all
- 1:11:39power. Number two, um avoid
- 1:11:44um like don't allow the military to
- 1:11:47engage in politics. Uh number three,
- 1:11:50make sure everything is consensus. Um
- 1:11:54number four, focus on economy. It's all
- 1:11:56being destroyed now. Okay, the military
- 1:11:58is now forced into all these these
- 1:12:00political factions, uh factionalism,
- 1:12:02which is destroying the military's
- 1:12:04capacity to maintain order. And in fact,
- 1:12:07you can now argue like the military is a
- 1:12:08source of a lot disorder in China today.
- 1:12:12And you have like again seven members
- 1:12:16in this military commission and now you
- 1:12:19only have two. Everyone else has been
- 1:12:22replaced. The most important has been
- 1:12:25Junga. Jongosa was considered the
- 1:12:29military equivalent to Xiinping. Xinping
- 1:12:32was in control of politics but was in
- 1:12:35control of the gun. Okay. So again
- 1:12:39remember in the Chinese system these two
- 1:12:41forces are meant to be parallel with
- 1:12:44each other. In theory the politics
- 1:12:46controls the gun but in reality they're
- 1:12:48supposed to be equal. And Jang Xiao's
- 1:12:51father is also another major general. So
- 1:12:53he has the pedigree the credibility to
- 1:12:56counter uh singing pinging. And um
- 1:13:00there's a lot of rumors, there's a lot
- 1:13:02of speculation that Jung Sha was behind
- 1:13:05a lot of the purges against Cian Ping's
- 1:13:08people and uh Jao was trying to
- 1:13:11constrain Cing's power. But because um
- 1:13:15Cinping is a president and they didn't
- 1:13:18want things to blow out of control, they
- 1:13:21agreed to let him stay in power. In
- 1:13:24response, Cinping decided that he would
- 1:13:28basically
- 1:13:29um cross Rubicon and he ordered the
- 1:13:33arrest of Jung Yosha. Um and there are
- 1:13:36rumors that actually Junga is dead but
- 1:13:39um January this year Jung Sha was
- 1:13:42arrested
- 1:13:43and a couple weeks ago he has been
- 1:13:46expelled uh by the party for
- 1:13:49factionalism. Okay. for engaging in
- 1:13:51fascism and um
- 1:13:55um and so
- 1:14:00China right now it's just a dumpster
- 1:14:01fire. No one's in control and they're
- 1:14:04all trying to destroy each other which
- 1:14:08basically means that Shining Ping
- 1:14:11himself has absolutely no power. Um, one
- 1:14:14thing that that is really strange is um
- 1:14:18for so this is this is all the list of
- 1:14:21his foreign trips in 2023
- 1:14:24and as you can see it's really not that
- 1:14:25much. He doesn't really go out that
- 1:14:27much. 2025 he look look at all these
- 1:14:30countries Vietnam, Malaysia, Cambodia,
- 1:14:33Russia Kazakhstan, South Korea. What the
- 1:14:36thing that distinguishes these places is
- 1:14:38they're really close to China. So this
- 1:14:40guy when he leaves he doesn't go that
- 1:14:43far and the reason why is because of so
- 1:14:45much political struggles within the
- 1:14:47country you need to make sure that
- 1:14:49you're around to make sure you know the
- 1:14:52different factions don't conspire
- 1:14:53against you. Um this is even more
- 1:14:55blatant in 2026 where for the first half
- 1:14:58of the year he really didn't go out but
- 1:15:00then we see forever reason August se
- 1:15:03September he's going to a lot of places
- 1:15:06and we can speculate as to why. Okay,
- 1:15:08one speculation again, we can only
- 1:15:10speculate because the Chinese system
- 1:15:12it's a it's a political blackbox. Um, we
- 1:15:15can speculate that
- 1:15:17um he's consolidated power and so he's
- 1:15:20invincible and so he he can do whatever
- 1:15:22he wants. Okay, that's one possibility.
- 1:15:25Another possibility is he's stripped of
- 1:15:27all power because his personnel, the
- 1:15:29people loyal to him are have been
- 1:15:30stripped of their power and so he's he's
- 1:15:33lame president. uh next year uh he'll be
- 1:15:37replaced and so
- 1:15:40uh his job is now to go out and
- 1:15:42represent China and
- 1:15:45um and one piece of evidence to support
- 1:15:49this. Okay, I I'll show you guys this is
- 1:15:53he does not look healthy. All right, if
- 1:15:55you're a Supreme dictator, you you tend
- 1:15:57to have a certain confidence to you. You
- 1:15:58have a certain swagger to you. If you
- 1:16:01just look at um how he's been behaving
- 1:16:05um
- 1:16:07um
- 1:16:09then
- 1:16:10uh you'll you'll see he is not um sorry
- 1:16:14I need to um so
- 1:16:24okay all right
- 1:16:26>> professor you're only sharing the
- 1:16:29Okay. All right. So, I want to show you
- 1:16:31guys this. Okay.
- 1:16:34All right. I want I'll show you guys
- 1:16:35this. Okay. This is in 2023 when he's um
- 1:16:40visiting Watch San Francisco.
- 1:16:54And by 2023, he looks pretty tired.
- 1:17:02I mean, he does not look like a supreme
- 1:17:03leader.
- 1:17:06I mean, compare him like Putin or Modi
- 1:17:09or Trump really,
- 1:17:14right? Okay. But
- 1:17:18I want to show you guys another video.
- 1:17:21All right.
- 1:17:34Okay,
- 1:17:44this is um
- 1:17:46two days ago when she came to
- 1:17:53uh the United states. And look, look at
- 1:17:56this. Okay, he's holding he look the way
- 1:17:59he holds on to his wife's hand and look
- 1:18:02at the way like he
- 1:18:06is walking down the stairs.
- 1:18:11He does not look healthy.
- 1:18:14Okay.
- 1:18:22Okay. So that is it. I have finished my
- 1:18:28presentation.
- 1:18:30Uh I'm sure you guys have lots of
- 1:18:32questions.
- 1:18:34So let's uh let's get started again
- 1:18:38guys. Um we let's just focus
- 1:18:42on this topic, okay? because it's really
- 1:18:44important that we understand what's
- 1:18:46going on because US China relations uh
- 1:18:49are will be really important and well
- 1:18:52China's China is really important. Okay.
- 1:18:53So um let's uh let's start with uh
- 1:18:56Baron.
- 1:18:58>> Okay. Uh yes. So uh actually I also
- 1:19:02noticed the same thing you did um about
- 1:19:05like he had to hold Pang's hand as he
- 1:19:09walked down the airplane steps. Um, and
- 1:19:12then he also uh when he was on the
- 1:19:14ground, he also seemed kind of nervous
- 1:19:17or agitated. He kept uh she kept um
- 1:19:21having to like look left and right in
- 1:19:23order I don't know what he was trying to
- 1:19:25see but
- 1:19:26>> he looked surprisingly nervous and then
- 1:19:29like the expressions of the other uh
- 1:19:32like security members and the Chinese uh
- 1:19:36governors who are like with him um they
- 1:19:39also seem to have different reactions
- 1:19:42when they were meeting with President
- 1:19:44Trump. She just seemed kind of normal,
- 1:19:47but the other people were like excited
- 1:19:49and then some of the people seem
- 1:19:51indifferent. It just seems very
- 1:19:52scattered. Um, but the actual thing I
- 1:19:56wanted to focus on was the uh is about
- 1:20:01uh something I think you kind of skipped
- 1:20:04over in Canada, but I think someone
- 1:20:06mentioned it during a question uh about
- 1:20:08potach fertilizer which is uh potassium
- 1:20:12fertilizer
- 1:20:13um which is mined uh from Canada which a
- 1:20:18big portion of it uh like the world
- 1:20:20global supply of pesh fertilizer. Uh
- 1:20:24some of it is mined in can uh Canada and
- 1:20:28you uh the other two countries you get
- 1:20:30it from are from Bellarus and Russia. Um
- 1:20:34but in this case uh for Canada uh if you
- 1:20:40uh if you run sorry I'm going to sorry I
- 1:20:43need to organize my thoughts better.
- 1:20:45>> No worries. No worries. Um, so for
- 1:20:47fertilizer, you basically you don't have
- 1:20:49a good substitute for pot ash
- 1:20:52fertilizer. You can try to burn wood ash
- 1:20:54and like try to reactivate with salt or
- 1:20:56whatever, but you need like a ton ton of
- 1:20:58industrial process that you can't set up
- 1:21:00immediately. Um, so, uh, in the
- 1:21:04situation that the United States does
- 1:21:07attempt some sort of invasion of Canada
- 1:21:10and that pawn fertilizer supply trade is
- 1:21:13disrupted, uh, what would happen or like
- 1:21:16what would China try to do about that?
- 1:21:19Um,
- 1:21:21>> yeah. Okay. So,
- 1:21:25um, look, there there will be no US
- 1:21:27invasion of Canada. It's not going to
- 1:21:29happen. I I know that Mark Carney has
- 1:21:31been talking about it. I know that Mark
- 1:21:33Carney is like, "Well, you know, we'll
- 1:21:34just do a guerilla warfare and we're
- 1:21:37ready for the US." It's just politics. I
- 1:21:40mean, it's just optics. There's no way
- 1:21:41the United States will actually launch a
- 1:21:43ground invasion of Canada. Um, look look
- 1:21:47at what what happened uh in Greenland,
- 1:21:50right? where okay for a few months Trump
- 1:21:53was talking about invading Greenland but
- 1:21:56ultimately they signed a deal where uh
- 1:21:58United States has this access to
- 1:22:00Greenland and um basically it just
- 1:22:05Denmark recognizing that the United
- 1:22:06States is too powerful militarily and
- 1:22:08there's actually no point in trying to
- 1:22:09resist so let's just save face and sign
- 1:22:11a treaty I think the same thing will
- 1:22:13happen in Canada and you're absolutely
- 1:22:16right Baron in that what Trump really
- 1:22:18wants is to control over Canadian
- 1:22:20resources.
- 1:22:22And um why he wants that is to be able
- 1:22:26to pressure China into making lots and
- 1:22:29lots of trade concessions and fertilizer
- 1:22:32is a very important uh part of that. So
- 1:22:36um I think this thing will resolve
- 1:22:38itself naturally where the Chinese are
- 1:22:41extremely problematic, the Canon people
- 1:22:42are extremely problematic and Trump is a
- 1:22:45business person and they'll come to an
- 1:22:47agreement at some point. But the bigger
- 1:22:51issue is not fertilizer. You can always
- 1:22:54access fertilizer. The problem is just a
- 1:22:57breakdown in global supply chains. We
- 1:22:59have absolutely no idea how
- 1:23:02consequential
- 1:23:03um things will be if you break down
- 1:23:06global supply chains. Okay. So, it's not
- 1:23:08just that fertilizers are part of the
- 1:23:10global supply chain. It's everything is
- 1:23:13part of the glob global supply chain.
- 1:23:15And so, um we haven't really gone up
- 1:23:20into we haven't really game out or war
- 1:23:23game out what a breakdown in global
- 1:23:25supply chain looks like. No one's done
- 1:23:27it. And the reason why is it is
- 1:23:29horrifying to even contemplate the
- 1:23:32possibility that global trade stops.
- 1:23:35Okay. Did you are are you okay with that
- 1:23:38answer, Baron? Or or or
- 1:23:40>> Yeah. Uh yes, I think that's fine. Um
- 1:23:44Okay. And then Yeah, because I was later
- 1:23:46going to ask about soybeans and uh corn
- 1:23:49being used for animal feed. Yeah, it's
- 1:23:52the same thing where yeah, China China's
- 1:23:54getting a lot of beans from Brazil right
- 1:23:56now and Trump will eventually pressure
- 1:23:58pressure pressure pressure Brazil uh
- 1:24:00into signing a western hemisphere trade
- 1:24:03pack. So like you know when when you so
- 1:24:05China's not negotiating with these
- 1:24:07countries individually but negotiating
- 1:24:10with um all these countries via the
- 1:24:13United States. That's what Trump really
- 1:24:14wants.
- 1:24:16>> Okay. Thank you.
- 1:24:17>> All right. Uh JD, you're next.
- 1:24:20Uh hi professor. Uh so I wanted to ask
- 1:24:23like what is the macro impact of this
- 1:24:26USChina relationship because as you have
- 1:24:28said that the world is moving towards a
- 1:24:30multipolar world. So China and US cannot
- 1:24:32be a dual polar power. So is this just a
- 1:24:35win effort to try to save the supply
- 1:24:37chain and economy which will eventually
- 1:24:39collapse?
- 1:24:40>> Yeah. So really, China and United States
- 1:24:44are the two main beneficiaries of
- 1:24:47globalization.
- 1:24:49And so both are status quo powers. And
- 1:24:52so both are stuck working together to
- 1:24:55try to save the global economy in a time
- 1:24:58of war. And unfortunately,
- 1:25:02I don't think either really wants to do
- 1:25:05this. They're kind of stuck doing it. Uh
- 1:25:08they don't have a choice in the matter.
- 1:25:10And if they don't do it, then they'll
- 1:25:11suff suffer even more. So they're
- 1:25:13reluctant partners basically.
- 1:25:17>> Okay. And what is the role of tech
- 1:25:20oligarchs like Elon Musk and this like
- 1:25:21as an actor in the game? What is the
- 1:25:23incentive they're working towards
- 1:25:25specifically to collaborate with China
- 1:25:27or associations?
- 1:25:28>> Excuse me.
- 1:25:30>> What was what is their role?
- 1:25:34>> What is their role as an actor in the
- 1:25:35game? Can you hear me?
- 1:25:37>> Which country?
- 1:25:39>> No. I was asking what is the role of
- 1:25:41tech oligarchs like Elon Musk as an
- 1:25:43actor in the game? Like what are they
- 1:25:44buying as an incentive in the game?
- 1:25:46>> Yeah, they they just want to get more
- 1:25:48money for themselves. They they want
- 1:25:49access to the China market. They want
- 1:25:51more subsidies from the Chinese
- 1:25:53government. Okay. So, for example, um
- 1:25:55you guys have may may know about, you
- 1:25:58know, China and United States
- 1:26:00collaborating together on like an AI
- 1:26:02governance board, right? To prevent AI
- 1:26:04from kill killing humanity. What this
- 1:26:07really is, it's an attempt on the part
- 1:26:09of oligarchs, these technies
- 1:26:13from the government, right? Because um
- 1:26:17how do you ensure these tech companies
- 1:26:19don't go go out of control? Well, you
- 1:26:21you nationalize them. You you you and so
- 1:26:24um when you nationalize them, what
- 1:26:26happens is like these tech argued
- 1:26:28the gains and socialize the losses. And
- 1:26:31that's like like like we're living in a
- 1:26:33time when everyone's trying to steal as
- 1:26:34much as possible.
- 1:26:37Right. Uh, professor, something I've
- 1:26:39noticed in your thinking is you seem
- 1:26:41reluctant to attribute major outcomes to
- 1:26:44randomness or coincidence. So, what
- 1:26:46makes you lean towards a purposeful
- 1:26:48explanation rather than just accepting
- 1:26:50that things may be random?
- 1:26:52>> Okay. Um, that that's a good point. But,
- 1:26:55uh, during my presentation, I did say
- 1:26:57certain things were random. Okay. So,
- 1:26:58for example, number one, the co thing, I
- 1:27:00think there's certain randomness into
- 1:27:02it. I don't think uh they purposely plan
- 1:27:05out the lab league. If they did, I'd be
- 1:27:08very impressed, but I don't think China
- 1:27:09has actually had has a capacity to
- 1:27:11actually execute something like that to
- 1:27:14the extent. Okay. Um I think the co lab
- 1:27:16league was just was just a u u an
- 1:27:19accident. That's random. Um I also said
- 1:27:23that Borchai trying to stage a coup
- 1:27:25d'eta um that was pretty random as well.
- 1:27:28and seating ping is just a major
- 1:27:30beneficiary of these events. But then I
- 1:27:33also point out there are certain things
- 1:27:34that happen that were probably not
- 1:27:36random. For example, the car crash. So
- 1:27:39um I'm trying I'm not saying like you
- 1:27:41know one random event. I'm just saying
- 1:27:43like you know if you look at a pattern
- 1:27:44of things um Okay.
- 1:27:47>> Right. Uh thank you professor. It's
- 1:27:49speaking to
- 1:27:50>> Okay. Uh Erin you're next.
- 1:27:53>> So who is the main opposition of she?
- 1:27:57who is his rifle and do you have any
- 1:27:59prediction for the 2027 turn supreme
- 1:28:03leader?
- 1:28:05>> So I think
- 1:28:07>> yeah no that that that's a great point.
- 1:28:08So so one thing I didn't do was go into
- 1:28:10the different political factions. Okay.
- 1:28:13So here's the best way to understand or
- 1:28:16in a very simple way. Okay. China has a
- 1:28:19lot of provinces. Each of these
- 1:28:21provinces is controlled by a political
- 1:28:23click. All right. Um and these political
- 1:28:27clicks can choose to align with each
- 1:28:30other. Um so that's the best way to
- 1:28:32understand it. So basically uh President
- 1:28:34C has control over Beijing and is the
- 1:28:37best in the best interest of these
- 1:28:38provinces to go along with um orders
- 1:28:43from Beijing in order to project
- 1:28:45stability. But if things get really bad,
- 1:28:48then what will happen is these promises
- 1:28:49will break away. And I think this is
- 1:28:51something that that will happen in the
- 1:28:52next 10 years. Um I I I think um look at
- 1:28:56all empires. It's basically these
- 1:28:58different warlords or these different
- 1:28:59provincial governors who basically make
- 1:29:02the decision it's probably better for
- 1:29:03them to get along than to fight fight
- 1:29:05each other because you know fighting
- 1:29:06each other there's too much cost. But
- 1:29:08you always reach a point when well you
- 1:29:11know uh we can't settle anything
- 1:29:13politically so so so we're forced to
- 1:29:16fight things out and I think that China
- 1:29:18is heading in that direction. I mean the
- 1:29:20fact that you have only two members of
- 1:29:22the seven member military commission
- 1:29:24still active tells you a lot about how
- 1:29:27bad things have deteriorated in China.
- 1:29:30Okay.
- 1:29:32>> Thank you.
- 1:29:33>> All right. Um Mele
- 1:29:39um can you hear me?
- 1:29:40>> Yeah. Go ahead.
- 1:29:41>> Yes. I have a question on the US
- 1:29:43treasuries holdings from China. Um I
- 1:29:46think they went down from like 1.2 2
- 1:29:49trillion to right now like 600 billion.
- 1:29:52Do you think there could be um like a
- 1:29:54deal between the US and China to say
- 1:29:57China has to buy a lot of more
- 1:29:59treasuries but get like Taiwan in maybe
- 1:30:0210 years because the yields are really
- 1:30:04hurting um the US um like economy. What
- 1:30:08do you think?
- 1:30:09>> Yeah, that's a good question. Yeah. So,
- 1:30:10this is something that I've been
- 1:30:11thinking a lot about. Okay. So, so let
- 1:30:13me explain what's going on. All right.
- 1:30:15So, what is what are US treasuries? US
- 1:30:18treasuries um um um are just debt right
- 1:30:22so why does China have so much US debt
- 1:30:25it's because of the trade imbalance
- 1:30:26where Chinese makes make a lot of goods
- 1:30:30and then um sell it to United States and
- 1:30:34China doesn't really buy things from the
- 1:30:36United States okay and that creates a
- 1:30:38trade imbalance and this trade balance
- 1:30:40shows up in US treasuries right because
- 1:30:42when you sell things to the United
- 1:30:46States they pay you in US You can take
- 1:30:48the US dollars and buy US treasuries.
- 1:30:50Okay. So, basically another way of
- 1:30:54saying this is US treasuries
- 1:30:57is a way for China to bribe the United
- 1:31:01States to let China export its goods to
- 1:31:06the United States. All right. Now, why
- 1:31:09would China want this? Well, first of
- 1:31:11all, it's because China is a plantation
- 1:31:13economy. It's a slave economy where all
- 1:31:16that matters is the elite. The people
- 1:31:17don't the people are just energy to be
- 1:31:19extracted, right? So from the
- 1:31:21perspective of the elite, this is a
- 1:31:23great deal because you're just taking um
- 1:31:27Chinese labor in your you are then um
- 1:31:33selling it for US dollars which they
- 1:31:34which they can use to go to the United
- 1:31:36States and uh spend money on. Okay,
- 1:31:39that's one real advantage to China.
- 1:31:41Another advantage for China is it keeps
- 1:31:43people busy. It keeps people employed.
- 1:31:45Right. Right. So, um uh even though
- 1:31:48Chinese workers aren't paid that much,
- 1:31:50they at least have something to do. It's
- 1:31:52a lot better than working in the fields.
- 1:31:53Right. So, uh even though we say it's a
- 1:31:57slave system, it's still better than the
- 1:32:00system they had before, which was this
- 1:32:01feudal system. Okay. Um that's number
- 1:32:05two. Number three is
- 1:32:08um even though US debt, US treasuries is
- 1:32:11not really worth that much, it's still
- 1:32:13the main basis of the global economy. So
- 1:32:15China, China can take this US the US
- 1:32:18treasuries and then use as collateral to
- 1:32:20go um and buy other things like soy
- 1:32:24beans, soy beans from Brazil. Okay. So
- 1:32:27the current system for many years
- 1:32:31benefited both the Chinese elite and the
- 1:32:34American elite. Okay? And I mean the
- 1:32:36people suffered, right? The the US uh
- 1:32:40people lost a lot of manufacturing jobs
- 1:32:41to China. The Chinese people are working
- 1:32:44for slave wages, but they don't matter.
- 1:32:46All right? So So why is the system
- 1:32:48breaking down? The system is breaking
- 1:32:51down because United States has proven
- 1:32:54that it can it can choose to weaponize
- 1:32:57its financial system in order to
- 1:32:59maintain its hijgemony. The classic
- 1:33:01example of course is Russia where Russia
- 1:33:03has about $300 billion of its assets
- 1:33:06frozen by Western financial institutions
- 1:33:08mainly Europe. Okay, so about Europe
- 1:33:09throws about $200 billion in Russian
- 1:33:12assets and that and starting then
- 1:33:14China's like uhoh
- 1:33:16um what do we do now? So what what they
- 1:33:20started to do was basically
- 1:33:24um
- 1:33:26um use US treasuries
- 1:33:29sell sell US treasuries to buy more
- 1:33:31gold. And we have to remember something.
- 1:33:33This is really important. Okay? It's not
- 1:33:35one government that controls all these
- 1:33:38US treasuries. A lot of these are
- 1:33:40Chinese corporations who are trying to
- 1:33:43um better hedge hedge risk. Okay. So the
- 1:33:49idea is okay right now there are three
- 1:33:54major buyers of US treasuries. Japan,
- 1:33:57the GCC and China. Some of you were
- 1:34:00saying it's the UK. No guys the UK if
- 1:34:03you live the UK you know the UK is not
- 1:34:05buying US treasuries because the UK has
- 1:34:06no money. It is the GCC buying US
- 1:34:09treasuries with citizen as the
- 1:34:13middleman. Okay. That's why UK appears
- 1:34:15number two when it's really the GCC.
- 1:34:16Okay. Okay, number one is Japan, number
- 1:34:18two is GCC, number three is China.
- 1:34:22You're absolutely right in that right
- 1:34:24now if these three countries stop buying
- 1:34:27US treasuries, then the United States
- 1:34:30could not finance its debt. Right now
- 1:34:33it's at is at $40 trillion.
- 1:34:36if it's forced to raise u interest rates
- 1:34:39to five 6%. It's it it it it has to pay
- 1:34:43$2 trillion a year in uh interest
- 1:34:46payments alone. Okay. So this will
- 1:34:48create huge problems for the US economy.
- 1:34:51And so therefore what uh the United
- 1:34:54States wants is for Japan, the GCC and
- 1:34:58China to continue to buy US treasuries.
- 1:35:01The GC and Japan aren't a problem
- 1:35:03because they're essentially US vessels.
- 1:35:04And so the United States can force them
- 1:35:06to buy US weapons. So the United States
- 1:35:08wants the GC to go to go to war against
- 1:35:10the Houthis and the Iranians. Um the
- 1:35:13United States wants Japan to go to war
- 1:35:15against China. Okay. China is a much
- 1:35:18bigger problem because China is
- 1:35:19independent. It's sovereign. It doesn't
- 1:35:22need to buy um US treasuries. And um you
- 1:35:28can actually make China buy US
- 1:35:30treasuries. So they're trying to think
- 1:35:31think of a workaround and the workaround
- 1:35:33um are something called stable coins. So
- 1:35:35I'm not sure how much you know about
- 1:35:37stable coin but stable coins are are
- 1:35:39essentally digital currency that is
- 1:35:40backed by US treasuries. Right? So if uh
- 1:35:45China agrees
- 1:35:47uh to allow stable coins into the
- 1:35:49country, this is a backdoor where
- 1:35:51Chinese citizens can privately buy US
- 1:35:55treasuries uh for stable coins. And
- 1:35:58that's the workaround that they want to
- 1:36:00do. But the problem is right now there's
- 1:36:04no one in charge of China. And like I I
- 1:36:06keep on going back to this point where
- 1:36:08no one can make this decision
- 1:36:11um because it's too controversial. Um
- 1:36:14and uh she doesn't want to make this
- 1:36:17make make this decision because he's
- 1:36:19still hoping that next year during party
- 1:36:22congress somehow he'll get a fourth
- 1:36:24term. But the only way you can do that
- 1:36:26is by not making a mistake. And I think
- 1:36:27like letting um US corporations into the
- 1:36:31country to sell stable coins. Uh
- 1:36:33different factions will pounce on that.
- 1:36:35So
- 1:36:37uh it seems like the entire world is in
- 1:36:39a stalemate right now. It seems like
- 1:36:41like things aren't progressing. Look,
- 1:36:44look, I made a prediction that there'll
- 1:36:46be a grand bargain between China and
- 1:36:48United States where basically China
- 1:36:51agrees to open up its financial markets
- 1:36:54and u United States get like tells China
- 1:36:58we won't deal with Taiwan. Okay, we
- 1:37:00won't support Taiwanese independence and
- 1:37:02basically creates a pathway for Taiwan
- 1:37:04and China to unify in the next 10 years.
- 1:37:07Um I I think like like as things unfold,
- 1:37:10it seems I'm I'm wrong about this
- 1:37:12prediction. It's possible, you know, in
- 1:37:14two, three months time things will
- 1:37:15change, but it seems right now that I'm
- 1:37:18on on track to be wrong. And if I'm
- 1:37:20wrong, I'm I'm always asking myself, why
- 1:37:23am I wrong? I think I'm wrong because
- 1:37:24like um no one's in charge of China
- 1:37:27right now. So no decision can can be
- 1:37:30made and and and and that's why you you
- 1:37:32have this slow death. Okay.
- 1:37:37>> Hi, Malay. Okay. All right. Uh
- 1:37:40>> yes, thank you so much. Thank you.
- 1:37:42>> Okay. Okay, Robert Lee, did did you have
- 1:37:44a question? [snorts]
- 1:37:45>> Yes. Um, professor, you are very smart.
- 1:37:48Okay, because advice know that
- 1:37:51the people who who would born who would
- 1:37:55adequate in the mode period they are
- 1:37:58they are not corrupted. But the people
- 1:38:01who were born in in the 1970s and 1980s
- 1:38:04are very corrupted. Why? Because for
- 1:38:07them money is God. Money and money is
- 1:38:10God. power is God they exchange each
- 1:38:12each other but you are right that she
- 1:38:15don't want to make she's why he can't
- 1:38:18win because he don't want to take a risk
- 1:38:21I don't think any bargaining will be
- 1:38:23happened between China USA okay as at
- 1:38:26any time I'm not see is that okay the
- 1:38:29coming mega earthquake in Tokyo will end
- 1:38:33everything will end the collapse of the
- 1:38:35semiconductor the collapse of the AI the
- 1:38:38collapse of the material world that is
- 1:38:39the big The people don't understand that
- 1:38:42the two cube will will have the mega
- 1:38:45earthquake will end everything the AI
- 1:38:48bubble some mechanic bubble material
- 1:38:50water so you professor read more about
- 1:38:55the document about the the mega
- 1:38:57earthquake in in Tokyo I think the this
- 1:39:01scene will be changed total totally but
- 1:39:04another thing professor I want to ask
- 1:39:07you if the end if the Indian and China
- 1:39:11is Gog and Moga and what will happen?
- 1:39:17Um, okay. So, on your point about the
- 1:39:19earthquake, look, um, I don't know if an
- 1:39:22earthquake will happen in Tokyo, but I
- 1:39:24think you're right in like we've we have
- 1:39:26been really lucky in that there have
- 1:39:27been no real major natural disasters
- 1:39:30so far. And if if if a natural disaster
- 1:39:33were to happen somewhere
- 1:39:35um then the world would be really badly
- 1:39:38affected because right now the world is
- 1:39:40not very resilient. In fact, the world
- 1:39:42is much more um unstable than ever ever
- 1:39:46before.
- 1:39:47Um I am of the opinion that India and
- 1:39:50China do not matter in geopolitics.
- 1:39:54Um I I don't think what happens in
- 1:39:56China, what happens in India actually
- 1:39:58impacts uh geopolitics.
- 1:40:01I think it matters more what happens to
- 1:40:03United States and or or in Russia or
- 1:40:06Europe. Um and the reason why is
- 1:40:10um if things happen in these nations
- 1:40:14they are much more likely to
- 1:40:17um [snorts] go to war overseas. I think
- 1:40:20if um there's a war civil war in China
- 1:40:24then China will just turtle up. If
- 1:40:26things break down in India then India
- 1:40:27will will just uh turtle up as well. And
- 1:40:31I think that because of these inter
- 1:40:33internal domestic structural
- 1:40:36contradictions both India and China are
- 1:40:38very weak countries. Okay. All right.
- 1:40:41Thank you. Uh Leandrew.
- 1:40:46>> Yes. Hello professor.
- 1:40:47>> Hi to be back. So my question I've been
- 1:40:51thinking about this week is why because
- 1:40:55I've also gone through like your
- 1:40:56civilization series and at the end you
- 1:40:58talked a bit I think about how China has
- 1:41:03kind of been industrialized by the US.
- 1:41:06So like why like why would China have
- 1:41:11agreed to [snorts] be basically
- 1:41:13industrialized by the US after the
- 1:41:16financial crisis? Like I've kind of I've
- 1:41:19been struggling with that idea like why
- 1:41:21would China just agree to that? Like is
- 1:41:23it was it really that powerless against
- 1:41:26the US at that point or how was it at
- 1:41:30that time?
- 1:41:31>> So look I mean at the end of the day uh
- 1:41:35it has to do with the way the Chinese
- 1:41:37society is structured. Okay, you have an
- 1:41:39elite
- 1:41:41um which controls 1 billion peasants.
- 1:41:44these 1 billion peasants is basically
- 1:41:45free labor. And if you're the elite,
- 1:41:48what you want to do is basically try to
- 1:41:50monetize this labor as cheaply as
- 1:41:53possible. United States comes on and
- 1:41:54says, "Listen, we'll give you the
- 1:41:56technology. We'll give them market
- 1:41:58access. Uh we'll even help you set up
- 1:42:01these factories and all you have to do
- 1:42:04is agree to make this trade in US
- 1:42:08dollars, right? For the elite, it's
- 1:42:10no-brainer."
- 1:42:12Okay? Does that make sense? I mean, like
- 1:42:15they're basically being offered free
- 1:42:16money because otherwise they would do
- 1:42:19they weren't doing much with with this
- 1:42:20um with this energy anyway, right? In
- 1:42:23the United States is like we'll come in
- 1:42:24and we'll buy it from you. Well, if
- 1:42:26you're elite, right, uh you're basically
- 1:42:28a parasite. Yeah. You you would take
- 1:42:30this deal.
- 1:42:32>> Okay. So because the elite they just
- 1:42:36didn't care about all their billion
- 1:42:38people and they thought well this is a
- 1:42:40good way to to to use them because we
- 1:42:43don't know what to do with them besides
- 1:42:45that.
- 1:42:46>> Exactly. Uh I mean like and this has
- 1:42:48been true in China for the past 5,000
- 1:42:50years. The peasants are considered
- 1:42:52property and they're considered real
- 1:42:54people. you came to China and like you
- 1:42:56actually met Chinese people, uh
- 1:43:00you would recognize that China is a very
- 1:43:04anti-human society. Um it's quite it's
- 1:43:07no different than like like India or
- 1:43:11other countries. Yeah.
- 1:43:13>> And so and so the elites have also
- 1:43:16basically gotten their like what they've
- 1:43:19gotten promised that also came true. So
- 1:43:21it's paid off for them.
- 1:43:23Look, if if you're the Chinese elite,
- 1:43:25okay, what do you want? You want to have
- 1:43:28your children go to elite US
- 1:43:30universities to become part of the
- 1:43:32American elite. You want to make a lot
- 1:43:34of money and then transfer this money to
- 1:43:35United States so they can buy
- 1:43:37residential property and retire. And
- 1:43:40it's worked out great for them. I mean,
- 1:43:43like, listen, I I lived in China most of
- 1:43:45my life. I I finally made some money
- 1:43:47thanks to you guys on Substack. And um I
- 1:43:51am now renting a room um in Ottawa in
- 1:43:56the woods. And every morning and every
- 1:43:59evening I go out for these long walks
- 1:44:02out in nature and I'm like, "Wow." First
- 1:44:06of all, the air is clean. Oh my god, I
- 1:44:09finally have clean air. Number two is
- 1:44:12it's quiet. It's quiet. There's no
- 1:44:14noise. There's no people going around.
- 1:44:19um making a lot of noise and um I I'm
- 1:44:24I'm just really really happy. Okay, if
- 1:44:26you're the Chinese lead, you you this is
- 1:44:28a life you want to live. You don't want
- 1:44:29to deal with Chinese people. You want to
- 1:44:32come to United States, buy buy some
- 1:44:33property out in the woods and just
- 1:44:35retire and and en enjoy your wealth. But
- 1:44:37for that to happen, you need to
- 1:44:40basically ensure the Chinese people are
- 1:44:42still working for you.
- 1:44:45>> Okay, got it. It's all about the the
- 1:44:47elite once again.
- 1:44:48>> Yep.
- 1:44:49>> Okay. Thank you very much.
- 1:44:50>> Okay. Uh Niko,
- 1:44:53>> hello professor. So my question to you
- 1:44:57is that you have been both to China as
- 1:45:00well as US. So which country's
- 1:45:02population you of the youth take
- 1:45:05interest in politics more? Who is more
- 1:45:08politically educated and aware? Which
- 1:45:11country? US or China? Well, I mean
- 1:45:13obviously United States because United
- 1:45:15States it's a democracy. I mean you can
- 1:45:17say it's a fake democracy but it's still
- 1:45:20democracy
- 1:45:22in which case you know you are allowed
- 1:45:23to discuss political opinions and you
- 1:45:25you are asked to engage in politics and
- 1:45:29so therefore you need to keep aware of
- 1:45:31the news. Um
- 1:45:34in China it's the opposite where if you
- 1:45:37engage in politics where if you try to
- 1:45:39read too much too many political news
- 1:45:40you can only get into trouble. Um so um
- 1:45:44there there's really no doubt about
- 1:45:46this.
- 1:45:48>> Okay. So let me put it in another way.
- 1:45:51Which country's population aspire to
- 1:45:54become politician in future? More
- 1:45:57aspiration for becoming a politician. So
- 1:46:00um Chinese aspire to become bureaucrats,
- 1:46:03not politicians. There's a difference.
- 1:46:05Being a bureaucrat just means that
- 1:46:07you're a pencil pusher and for them they
- 1:46:09consider that that to be a very safe and
- 1:46:11stable job. The Chinese like stability.
- 1:46:14Um whereas United States people here are
- 1:46:17very ambitious.
- 1:46:20>> All right. Thank you. That was it.
- 1:46:22>> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Lyel.
- 1:46:26Uh you're next. Lyel.
- 1:46:32Hello, Lyel.
- 1:46:35>> Okay. Hello.
- 1:46:37>> Oh, yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead.
- 1:46:39>> Yeah. Sorry. Just figuring out how to
- 1:46:40get uh unmuted. Um nice to talk to you.
- 1:46:44Um I wanted to know what is the goal of
- 1:46:48G and Trump meeting three times this
- 1:46:50year if um it's hard to even get a deal
- 1:46:54or even attempt a deal if no one is in
- 1:46:56charge.
- 1:46:56>> Yeah, that's a great question. Exactly.
- 1:46:58Yeah. And this is something I didn't
- 1:46:59touch on. Okay. So, if you look at
- 1:47:02things from a nation state perspective,
- 1:47:05it's very hard for a deal to happen.
- 1:47:08Okay. So, then the question is like
- 1:47:09what's the point of uh C and Trump
- 1:47:13meeting like four times this year. Um,
- 1:47:18so a as we discussed earlier, C doesn't
- 1:47:21look that healthy, but he made a point
- 1:47:23of coming all the way to the United
- 1:47:26States to spend some time with uh with
- 1:47:30Trump. And so I would say the simple
- 1:47:32explanation is what C is trying to do is
- 1:47:35trying to stabilize USChina relations.
- 1:47:38Okay. So what what what what he's afraid
- 1:47:41of is the USChina trade war erupting
- 1:47:44again. Right now there's sort of it's a
- 1:47:45ceasefire
- 1:47:47um uh between the two and
- 1:47:51China does not want this ceasefire
- 1:47:56to um end. Okay. So that's something
- 1:47:59that all factions can agree on. Okay.
- 1:48:00all political factions within China can
- 1:48:02agree we need this guy presidency to go
- 1:48:06to go to United States and based on his
- 1:48:09personal rapport with Trump
- 1:48:12um make sure Trump doesn't go wacky
- 1:48:16again and declare war on us economically
- 1:48:19okay so that's something that they can
- 1:48:20all agree on and that's why I think um
- 1:48:23they wanted presidency to go to the
- 1:48:26United States that's from the nation
- 1:48:28state perspective but we also need to
- 1:48:30look at things from a personal
- 1:48:32perspective. And what is it that both
- 1:48:35people want? Okay, Donald Trump
- 1:48:38obviously wants a third term. I mean,
- 1:48:40like the guy is like 80 years old. Uh
- 1:48:44theoretically, this is his last term in
- 1:48:46office. Why is he working so hard? I
- 1:48:49mean, um and and you you be like, well,
- 1:48:53it's to have his legacy. I know it's but
- 1:48:57I mean like if if he really cared about
- 1:48:58his legacy would he have declared war on
- 1:49:00Iran? Would he have stolen like millions
- 1:49:03of dollars uh from these crypto barons?
- 1:49:06Um so I think Trump wants a third term
- 1:49:08but the same applies to C. He wants to
- 1:49:10continue to maintain power. So I think
- 1:49:12for these two people the purpose of
- 1:49:14meeting is how can we work together to
- 1:49:19extend our power right because for from
- 1:49:22Trump perspect from Trump's perspective
- 1:49:24he wants presidency to be in power um
- 1:49:28for another four or five years he wants
- 1:49:30Putin to be in power for another four or
- 1:49:32five years and so my argument is at the
- 1:49:36end of the year what we'll see is the
- 1:49:39rise of the triumphirate okay a secret
- 1:49:41alliance between among three people,
- 1:49:43Putin of Russia, CE of China, Trump of
- 1:49:46the United States where the three agree
- 1:49:49to help each other maintain power. Very
- 1:49:51similar to what happened in Rome uh in
- 1:49:54the first triumpvirant and the second
- 1:49:55triant, right? The first triant of
- 1:49:57course was Pompei, Cassis and Caesar and
- 1:50:01they agreed to secretly help each other
- 1:50:03uh win political positions. I think the
- 1:50:05same thing will will transpire. Okay,
- 1:50:07that's why President C went to meet with
- 1:50:10Trump. Okay, if you are going to create
- 1:50:13this alliance, you need to create trust
- 1:50:15and rapport um among these different
- 1:50:18players and and and that's why I think
- 1:50:19he ultimately went. Okay. All right. Um
- 1:50:23>> thank you.
- 1:50:24>> Okay, JL.
- 1:50:26>> Uh good afternoon. Thank you so much for
- 1:50:29your wisdom. Uh I just want to ask about
- 1:50:32um I'm not sure if you heard 15minute or
- 1:50:35urban planning both in China and around
- 1:50:38>> Shanghai cities. Yes. Yes.
- 1:50:40>> Yes. I just want to I mean the basis of
- 1:50:43it from my [snorts] understanding from
- 1:50:45my readings as a child I've read about
- 1:50:47Jacqu Fresco. I'm not sure if you're
- 1:50:49familiar with his work and Venus Project
- 1:50:52is a resource-based economy as an
- 1:50:54alternative to a monetary system. uh but
- 1:50:57increasingly I'm noticing that it's
- 1:50:59turning into actually AI civilian cities
- 1:51:02pretty much. So I just want to know your
- 1:51:04opinion on that and how um actually this
- 1:51:07technology u can be used for betterment
- 1:51:11of humanity if is in right hands not in
- 1:51:14hands of these secret societies and
- 1:51:17government. What do you think about
- 1:51:18that?
- 1:51:20>> Okay. Um so China has a lot of these
- 1:51:2350-minute cities. Okay. and um China has
- 1:51:28been very successful
- 1:51:30in um being very authoritarian. So the
- 1:51:34example is COVID lockdowns, right? These
- 1:51:36co co lockdowns were completely
- 1:51:37ineffectual in the western world because
- 1:51:40people live in houses and you can't
- 1:51:42actually monitor every single house. But
- 1:51:44in China, everyone lives in a
- 1:51:45residential building and it's very easy
- 1:51:47to lock down a res residential building.
- 1:51:50So, um, China's lockdowns were
- 1:51:53extremely, uh, effective. I know because
- 1:51:56I was locked down. It really, really
- 1:51:58sucks. Um, so I think that the idea that
- 1:52:06people will use AI for the common good
- 1:52:09is just ridiculous, right? And the logic
- 1:52:11is very, very, very, very simple. For AI
- 1:52:14to be effective, you need economies of
- 1:52:17scale. um you need to concentrate power
- 1:52:20and we what we know is like in an
- 1:52:23institution the more power you give it
- 1:52:26the less empathy it has the more um the
- 1:52:29more or the more um top down it becomes
- 1:52:33okay and the classic example is city
- 1:52:35planning okay I'm not sure if you've
- 1:52:38read about Jane Jacobs if you read Jane
- 1:52:40Jacobs her book um the fall and decline
- 1:52:43of the great American cities it's a
- 1:52:45wonderful book it shows how usually
- 1:52:47alone they will develop these organic
- 1:52:50diverse
- 1:52:52um communities with lots of cross
- 1:52:54purposes and I highly re recommend
- 1:52:56everyone read that book. Okay. So why is
- 1:52:59it like her ideas never like never
- 1:53:03became popular. Okay. Instead you have
- 1:53:05someone like Robert Moses who who was
- 1:53:08probably the most famous urban planner
- 1:53:09of the 20th century. Um why did he
- 1:53:12become so dominant? And and the answer
- 1:53:14is that's how power works. You put
- 1:53:17powerful people together and you give
- 1:53:18them a blueprint, they understand what a
- 1:53:20blueprint is and they understand how to
- 1:53:22implement the blueprint. But if you talk
- 1:53:24to them about human creativity and human
- 1:53:26diversity and human spirituality,
- 1:53:29they're like, "What the man? Get
- 1:53:31out of here." Okay. Um, people in power
- 1:53:34are psychopaths. People in power are not
- 1:53:36very imaginative. They see the world in
- 1:53:38a very top down way. So, the idea that
- 1:53:40we will use AI for the common good is
- 1:53:42just complete nonsense. If you if you
- 1:53:44have access to AI, it means you're a
- 1:53:46really powerful p person. And then if
- 1:53:48you're a very powerful person, you're
- 1:53:49going to see the world in a very
- 1:53:51limited, very simplistic uh very narrow
- 1:53:54manner. Okay.
- 1:53:57>> Thank you.
- 1:53:58>> All right, Tyler.
- 1:54:00Hi, Tyler. You're next.
- 1:54:07Hi, Tyler. Could you unmute yourself,
- 1:54:09please?
- 1:54:19Uh, hi Tyler. Are you here? Okay. Well,
- 1:54:22we'll come back to you. Okay, Tyler. Uh,
- 1:54:23Salivat.
- 1:54:26>> Hi, Salivat.
- 1:54:28>> Hey, professor.
- 1:54:29>> Hi.
- 1:54:29>> Uh, so we covered uh AI, we covered
- 1:54:33China, we covered the United States, and
- 1:54:35it's uh northern neighbor, right? Uh
- 1:54:38Canada. How about Russia? So we also a
- 1:54:40little bit covered the vessel states
- 1:54:42like Japan and others. What's the role
- 1:54:44of Russia because Russia uh in a war
- 1:54:48it's they're kind of losing not winning
- 1:54:50for for sure. Economy is declining right
- 1:54:52and then
- 1:54:53>> you ask your question related to to
- 1:54:55today's topic like like like I I don't
- 1:54:58want to like go off topic. Okay. We're
- 1:55:01talking about Russia later on but like
- 1:55:03today I I just want to focus on China
- 1:55:05and the United States.
- 1:55:06>> Yeah. It's it's it's a more relation of
- 1:55:08China and Russia,
- 1:55:11>> right? Okay. Yeah. So, um as you know,
- 1:55:16President C and President Putin have a
- 1:55:18very strong personal relationship and
- 1:55:22for the past 10 years, they've been
- 1:55:24trying very hard to strengthen the
- 1:55:27relationship between uh Moscow and
- 1:55:29Beijing. There are lots of flights
- 1:55:32between Moscow and Beijing. The problem
- 1:55:36is that if you're a middle- class
- 1:55:38Chinese, you would much prefer to be
- 1:55:41United States than in Russia. You know,
- 1:55:44like when you go United States, um
- 1:55:47United States is a very tolerant, very
- 1:55:48open society.
- 1:55:51And when Chinese go to Russia, they're
- 1:55:53al all these horror stories of being,
- 1:55:56you know, being shook down by the
- 1:55:58police. You know, you're driving a car
- 1:55:59and the police stop you and uh demand a
- 1:56:01bribe. You say, "No, I did nothing
- 1:56:03wrong." they put you in prison until
- 1:56:05someone comes and pays a bribe off. Um,
- 1:56:09and Russia is still a pretty racist
- 1:56:12society as compared to the United
- 1:56:15States. So even though at the top level
- 1:56:17there's a lot of cooperation between the
- 1:56:19United States uh between Russia and
- 1:56:21China at the peopleto people level which
- 1:56:24is what really matters um the
- 1:56:26interactions are much more limited than
- 1:56:29um between Chinese and United States.
- 1:56:32People don't appreciate that. Yeah. Even
- 1:56:35though there's a trade war going on,
- 1:56:36there's still a lot of interactions
- 1:56:37between China and the United States. So,
- 1:56:40300,000 Chinese students are not are
- 1:56:41still studying in the United States. and
- 1:56:44like more and more wanting of the United
- 1:56:46States. uh even though Trump h is not
- 1:56:48very nice to Chinese students and even
- 1:56:50though China has been trying to to warn
- 1:56:54um um to warn uh Chinese students
- 1:56:59against going United States like so um I
- 1:57:02think in the long term United States and
- 1:57:04and China will still be very strong
- 1:57:07friends and strong partners and I'm not
- 1:57:10really sure about Russia and China like
- 1:57:12the reality is like the United States
- 1:57:14and China they do not have any real
- 1:57:17geopolitical conflicts. Whereas if you
- 1:57:19look at Russia and China, there could
- 1:57:22there could potentially be a lot of
- 1:57:24geopolitical conflicts. Okay, one area
- 1:57:27conflict is of course Central Asia where
- 1:57:30you know China is trying to create its
- 1:57:33um belt and road initiative and Russia
- 1:57:35is trying to create its north south
- 1:57:36corridor. Uh Kazakhstan uh has always
- 1:57:40been a source of tension between these
- 1:57:42two countries.
- 1:57:44um the Russian Chinese border is still
- 1:57:48heavily defended. Okay. So there's lots
- 1:57:50of um the Russian far east that China
- 1:57:54considers it to be historically part of
- 1:57:56part of China. So um if I were a betting
- 1:57:59man I would just say it is much more
- 1:58:01likely for China to have a reproachment
- 1:58:04with United States and I think in the
- 1:58:07long term China will see Russia as a
- 1:58:09greater threat than the United States.
- 1:58:12Thank you.
- 1:58:13>> Okay. All right. Um,
- 1:58:17uh, Tyler. Okay. Sorry. Sorry.
- 1:58:20>> Hey, sorry about that.
- 1:58:21>> Yeah, no worries.
- 1:58:21>> Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I just had to change
- 1:58:22a setting in my browser. Um, so I do
- 1:58:24have a couple of questions. I'll start
- 1:58:26with the one that I would look most like
- 1:58:28an answer to and then if you have time,
- 1:58:29I'd like to get to another one.
- 1:58:31Um so something that I found interesting
- 1:58:34about the summit between Trump and Gi is
- 1:58:36that Gi once again uh invoked the
- 1:58:40Thusidities trap. Yeah. Which you know
- 1:58:43basically for those who don't know it's
- 1:58:45basically just the concept that when
- 1:58:47there's a established power and a rising
- 1:58:50power [snorts] um war tends to break out
- 1:58:53between those two. Um so
- 1:58:57let me collect my thoughts here real
- 1:58:59quick.
- 1:59:00Um
- 1:59:01my my reading of that is that um you
- 1:59:05that that's a concept that's a bit too
- 1:59:10far-sighted to just be like a sound bite
- 1:59:12to present to media
- 1:59:14>> or to an American audience for politics
- 1:59:17sake. So I do wonder what you think is
- 1:59:19the significance of his repeated
- 1:59:21invocation of the Thusidities trap. Um,
- 1:59:25and you know, from from where I see it,
- 1:59:28I think that it has a lot to do with the
- 1:59:30Belt and Road initiative.
- 1:59:31>> Yeah.
- 1:59:32>> Uh, I think I think that that's the
- 1:59:33fundamental conflict between uh, China
- 1:59:36and the US because that's something that
- 1:59:39China obviously, you know, they they've
- 1:59:42spent a lot of resources in building the
- 1:59:44belt and road uh, corridor and from the
- 1:59:48US perspective, that's something that
- 1:59:49absolutely cannot happen. Uh so I think
- 1:59:52that there is [snorts]
- 1:59:54um you know a pretty big legitimate
- 1:59:57conflict over that. So [snorts] uh yeah
- 2:00:01we'll just leave it at that for now.
- 2:00:02>> Okay. All right. So um all right. So
- 2:00:04certain things to appreciate is
- 2:00:07>> the facilities trap is a book written by
- 2:00:09a his a Harvard historian called Graham
- 2:00:12Allison. Graham Allison is king's
- 2:00:16favorite historian. Graham Allison
- 2:00:18visits China a lot, maybe once a year
- 2:00:20and uh he's very close to the Chinese
- 2:00:23leadership and it's flattering for the
- 2:00:26Chinese to think that they could
- 2:00:28potentially replace United States one
- 2:00:30day. Okay. So, uh there are certain
- 2:00:33historians uh Graham Allison is one of
- 2:00:35them. Martin Jax is another person.
- 2:00:38Martin Jax wrote a book I think that's a
- 2:00:40book called like China's number one or
- 2:00:42China will become the like the global
- 2:00:44superpower. Okay. So if you're a
- 2:00:46historian, you're will you're willing to
- 2:00:47say like China has these imperial
- 2:00:49ambitions and like China is dominant
- 2:00:52power, then the Chinese love you. Um and
- 2:00:55again it's because in China politics is
- 2:00:58everything. Optics is just politics. And
- 2:01:01you know if a western historian is
- 2:01:02willing to say that you know China is
- 2:01:04rising and rising then you'll be whine
- 2:01:07and dime by the Chinese leadership. So,
- 2:01:09Cin Ping knows Graham Allison very well
- 2:01:12and so Cen Ping has a personal
- 2:01:16um affinity for the term the fidilities
- 2:01:19trap and that's why he mentions a lot
- 2:01:22you know it's it's it's paying homage to
- 2:01:24his friend Graham Ellison but when he
- 2:01:27mentions the term fusid trap okay what
- 2:01:30he's really saying is we and he says and
- 2:01:34like so he did this in May and he did
- 2:01:36this this time time around okay what
- 2:01:38he's really saying to is we need to
- 2:01:40avoid the fidity strap. The best way to
- 2:01:42do that is to transition from from a
- 2:01:44relationship based on strategic
- 2:01:46competition to one based on strategic
- 2:01:49stability. Okay, the status quo. Um so
- 2:01:52that's what he's really saying. He's not
- 2:01:54really saying that, you know, we the
- 2:01:56file trap is inedible and we China are
- 2:01:59on the rise. What he's really saying is
- 2:02:02we should both work hard to avoid the
- 2:02:04file strap. It's not something that that
- 2:02:06either either of us want. Okay. [snorts]
- 2:02:08Um, uh, rhetorically, what's really
- 2:02:11interesting is like
- 2:02:15both in May and in in in this recent
- 2:02:19summit, both leaders Trump and C are
- 2:02:23using very similar rhetoric. The
- 2:02:25speeches are almost identical to to the
- 2:02:28ones they gave back in May, where Trump
- 2:02:30is trying to invoke the historical
- 2:02:33friendship between the Chinese people
- 2:02:35and the American people. and she is
- 2:02:37trying to invoke the same friendship. Um
- 2:02:42so I I think that there's a lot of
- 2:02:45coordination
- 2:02:46uh between the both of them and I think
- 2:02:48that um um eventually both will come to
- 2:02:54a compromise of some some some sort. not
- 2:02:57necessarily a grand bargain, right,
- 2:02:58where they settle the Taiwan issue once
- 2:03:00and for all, but basically a compromise
- 2:03:02where they agree to get along.
- 2:03:07>> Great. Thank you for that. Um, and do
- 2:03:08you have time for one more question? I
- 2:03:10just have one more quick one
- 2:03:11>> if you ask a quick one. Okay.
- 2:03:13>> Yeah. So, so again, again referring to
- 2:03:16the recent uh the ongoing uh summit
- 2:03:19between Jay and Trump. Uh I'm not sure
- 2:03:21if it's still going on or not. Um but
- 2:03:23there was an interesting disagreement.
- 2:03:26um regarding AI. Uh so Trump made a
- 2:03:29statement that he also projected upon
- 2:03:32um China, you know, insisting that China
- 2:03:34also shares this view that uh AI should
- 2:03:37be left alone without new regulation. Um
- 2:03:40and then Xi
- 2:03:42>> uh completely contradicted that with his
- 2:03:44own statement saying that um the two
- 2:03:47powers have a responsibility to ensure
- 2:03:50that AI remains under human control and
- 2:03:52is managed and regulated for human
- 2:03:54welfare. So, I'm wondering if you make
- 2:03:56anything about that that split.
- 2:03:59>> Um, well, I think Trump is definitely
- 2:04:03being controlled by the tech argu. Okay.
- 2:04:05So, people like Elm Mas, Peter Theo,
- 2:04:07Senator Alman, uh, they do have Trump's
- 2:04:10ear and Trump is defending their their
- 2:04:12interests. Um, Siding Ping just has a
- 2:04:17very authoritarian perspective when it
- 2:04:19comes to AI where he sees AI as solving
- 2:04:22all of China's economic economic
- 2:04:24problems, but he also sees AI as first
- 2:04:27and foremost a political tool used to
- 2:04:29cement the power of the Communist Party.
- 2:04:32Okay. And and and that's why I don't
- 2:04:34really see eye to eye on that. But like
- 2:04:35it's not really an issue for the two.
- 2:04:39Okay.
- 2:04:40>> Okay. Helen, you're next.
- 2:04:43>> Hi, Professor Jang. It's an honor to
- 2:04:45meet you. Love your work. Um, I'm just
- 2:04:48curious about uh potential civil war in
- 2:04:53the US as well as I've heard from um,
- 2:04:58you know, following other thinkers as
- 2:05:00well that there's a potential for civil
- 2:05:02war in China as well. So, I mean, we're
- 2:05:06looking at a fight between these two
- 2:05:09powers and yet we're looking at the
- 2:05:11potential collapse of both powers. So,
- 2:05:14just wondering what you think about
- 2:05:16that.
- 2:05:17>> Yeah, I mean I I actually agree with
- 2:05:19this analysis where I think the real
- 2:05:21danger is not conflict between the
- 2:05:24United States and China. The real
- 2:05:25conflict is civil discord and civil war
- 2:05:29within these two countries. Um, first of
- 2:05:33all, I think these two countries are too
- 2:05:35far apart. Uh, they're separated by a
- 2:05:37huge ocean to actually engage in a war.
- 2:05:42Second, second law, I I I don't know
- 2:05:43what what they would fight over. If
- 2:05:44China wants to take Taiwan, United
- 2:05:46States is not going to go defend Taiwan.
- 2:05:47Like, why why the United States go do
- 2:05:49that? It's like, who cares? Um, so I
- 2:05:52don't really see the United States and
- 2:05:54China ever going to war against each
- 2:05:57other. the same time uh what what I do
- 2:06:00see is a lot of discontent within these
- 2:06:05countries. Uh the economies of both
- 2:06:08countries are not doing very well. You
- 2:06:10have an aging crisis um where basically
- 2:06:13this is an aging elite are able to
- 2:06:15control all the resources leaving
- 2:06:17nothing for young people. So the
- 2:06:19similarities between these two nations,
- 2:06:21it's so stark that I think it's very
- 2:06:24hard for both these nations to avoid
- 2:06:27civil war at some point.
- 2:06:31>> Thank you.
- 2:06:33>> Okay. All right. All right. Thanks,
- 2:06:35Alan. All right. Um Baron,
- 2:06:39>> uh yes. Okay. So, I've been thinking
- 2:06:42about the uh supply chain the total
- 2:06:45supply chain uh collapse issue a lot. Um
- 2:06:49and then I've been just uh thinking that
- 2:06:52so China is currently an export economy,
- 2:06:55right? So they take resources, they
- 2:06:56manufacture into something and export it
- 2:06:58to another nation and then they get
- 2:07:00money back. So um so if a supply chain
- 2:07:05uh collapse were to happen, uh China
- 2:07:08would only be able to trade regionally.
- 2:07:10So let's say with Russia, Japan and
- 2:07:12these Southeast Asian countries, but
- 2:07:15they don't really have good relations
- 2:07:18with any of those countries. So
- 2:07:21uh so in this and then the US is way is
- 2:07:25too far away uh for any decent amount of
- 2:07:29trading to happen because if the supply
- 2:07:31chain collapsed there would be piracy
- 2:07:33everywhere. So a lot of that would get
- 2:07:35lost. So um so what uh so what could
- 2:07:39China do in this sit uh in a situation
- 2:07:42like that because or else their
- 2:07:44factories are going to close and then
- 2:07:46end up like the rust belts and US
- 2:07:48automobile companies.
- 2:07:50>> So I don't know how much you've thought
- 2:07:52about the breakdown of supply chains.
- 2:07:54Okay. But um I think if you actually war
- 2:07:57game it out um you would recognize
- 2:08:01there's no bottom to the chaos that
- 2:08:04would be unleashed. Okay. So you you
- 2:08:08would think like okay well worst case
- 2:08:10scenario you have these regional
- 2:08:11training blocks. That's not that's not
- 2:08:13what's going to happen. What's going to
- 2:08:15happen is civil war and conflict
- 2:08:18throughout the entire world. You have
- 2:08:19political revolutions and there's really
- 2:08:21no bottom to this. And I I think the
- 2:08:23best analogy you can use is the bronze
- 2:08:25age collapse. And because like once you
- 2:08:28set off this chain
- 2:08:31um I think like the second order third
- 2:08:33order effects is something that's very
- 2:08:35hard for us to imagine because
- 2:08:38globalization is not something that
- 2:08:41happens just at the um state-to-state
- 2:08:44level. It happens it's embedded
- 2:08:47throughout all of society. Okay. Um, so
- 2:08:51I I I mean I I if the once the global
- 2:08:55chain supply chain starts breaking down,
- 2:08:57then it's complete another utter chaos
- 2:08:59and something that we'll probably see in
- 2:09:01a year or two. Okay. So um so I mean
- 2:09:05like I don't be I don't mean like well
- 2:09:07okay once the global supply chain breaks
- 2:09:09down then um there will be a new world
- 2:09:12order. No, I think we complete chaos.
- 2:09:14Okay.
- 2:09:14>> Yeah.
- 2:09:16I've seen so far is like basically uh
- 2:09:19all progress during and after the
- 2:09:22industrial age that started in the UK is
- 2:09:25going to basically get wiped out because
- 2:09:29>> yeah that's right
- 2:09:32>> um okay uh and then uh I think that's it
- 2:09:35but I wanted to ask a question about how
- 2:09:38do small communities survive in
- 2:09:41>> Yeah yeah yeah so let's just focus on
- 2:09:42China okay
- 2:09:45Uh you're next.
- 2:09:49>> Hello sir, how are you? Uh so you I have
- 2:09:52a quick question. Um so you've mentioned
- 2:09:55in the past uh the concept of the u of
- 2:09:58the US a technate how essentially um how
- 2:10:03America has this concept of of
- 2:10:07withdrawing inwards at at the time of
- 2:10:10the collapse or something along the
- 2:10:13those lines. So my question is
- 2:10:17does China have a similar kind of
- 2:10:21philosophy and and that's ties into um a
- 2:10:26certain geopolitical incident if you
- 2:10:28recall when there was that small spat
- 2:10:31between um India and Pakistan how
- 2:10:35Pakistan's
- 2:10:37Chinese um military technology
- 2:10:40overpowered India's um westester western
- 2:10:44technology. So, you know, you know, so
- 2:10:47in my mind, why doesn't China kind of um
- 2:10:53um just use that technology to
- 2:10:56to to kind of have its own
- 2:10:59technate of Asia? Okay, so um that's a
- 2:11:04good question. So, in East Asia, it's
- 2:11:08not China that wants to create a
- 2:11:10technate, it's Japan. Okay. So,
- 2:11:11historically, Japan has something called
- 2:11:13a Japanese co- uh prosperity sphere
- 2:11:17where it controls all of East Asia.
- 2:11:19Okay. But China doesn't do that. Why?
- 2:11:22Because culturally,
- 2:11:24China and Japan are very different.
- 2:11:26Japan, it's a very cohesive
- 2:11:29society. Uh that is also very
- 2:11:33homogeneous. Okay. There's a lot of
- 2:11:35equality in Japan. So, they stick
- 2:11:37together because historically they've
- 2:11:39been very poor. China is a plantation
- 2:11:41economy. It's a slave system. Meaning
- 2:11:44like the elite sees its people as
- 2:11:47peasants to be exploited. So it's not
- 2:11:49interested in conquer territory. It's
- 2:11:51what what it's interested in is
- 2:11:53maintaining stability and harmony and
- 2:11:55balance in China itself. Okay. All
- 2:11:57right. Um we're running out of time. Uh
- 2:12:00c can you ask your question, please,
- 2:12:04Stephen?
- 2:12:08>> Yeah. Can you hear me?
- 2:12:09>> Yeah. Go ahead.
- 2:12:10>> Um, so you've talked before about
- 2:12:15transnational capital being basically
- 2:12:17infesting the world, uh, and their
- 2:12:20relationship to the occult. So I was
- 2:12:21just wondering what China's what's the
- 2:12:24relationship between China, the occult,
- 2:12:26and their relationship to the United
- 2:12:28States.
- 2:12:29>> Yeah, that's a great question. Um, so
- 2:12:31China doesn't have
- 2:12:33um Chinese capital. The reason why is
- 2:12:36it's controlled by families. Okay. So
- 2:12:38China is controlled by the re
- 2:12:40revolutionary families, the red nobility
- 2:12:42and they interact with transnational
- 2:12:44capital. Um and but at the same time
- 2:12:49they're trying to prevent transational
- 2:12:50capital from monopolizing China because
- 2:12:52if if that were the case then they would
- 2:12:55cease to have any power. Um and China
- 2:13:00the Chinese don't practice the occult.
- 2:13:03And I think that's one of the
- 2:13:04fundamental weaknesses of China. The
- 2:13:07Chinese are extremely pragmatic, very
- 2:13:11practical, very
- 2:13:13utilitarian. Um they don't really have
- 2:13:15conception of the occult. They used to,
- 2:13:17but over time what the emperor did was
- 2:13:21um degrade the influence of the occult
- 2:13:23because they because the emperor saw the
- 2:13:24occult as
- 2:13:26um basically
- 2:13:29um another power center that could
- 2:13:32challenge the emperor, right? Because
- 2:13:33the occult is run by priests and the
- 2:13:37emperor would not want a priesthood um
- 2:13:40like India or
- 2:13:43um in Israel. Okay. So the thing about
- 2:13:46the Jews is the power base isn't a
- 2:13:48rabbis. It's decentralized. There's no
- 2:13:51one emperor. Um same thing with the
- 2:13:54Indian people. The Chinese are very
- 2:13:56different. The Chinese are very top down
- 2:13:58authorit authoritarian system. And quite
- 2:14:00honestly that's why the Chinese are not
- 2:14:02very imaginative. Okay? I hate to say
- 2:14:03this guys go to university, go to
- 2:14:04Harvard, go to Yale. Smartest people are
- 2:14:06who? Jews, Indians, and Persians. Not
- 2:14:09the Chinese people. Uh, and and that's
- 2:14:11that's something that um and I think a
- 2:14:13lot of it is because uh the Chinese
- 2:14:15don't engage in the cult the way that
- 2:14:16the Jews and the Indians do. Okay,
- 2:14:18Plato, you're next.
- 2:14:23Plato. Okay. All right, Dan.
- 2:14:25>> No, no, no.
- 2:14:26>> Oh, sorry. Go, go, go ahead. Go ahead,
- 2:14:27Plato.
- 2:14:30>> No, no. I had my hand raised.
- 2:14:33I just leave someone else.
- 2:14:35>> Okay. Okay. Uh, Dad.
- 2:14:39Hi. Can you hear me? Yeah. I got here.
- 2:14:41>> Hi, thank you for your um lessons,
- 2:14:42Professor Jang. I was wondering um with
- 2:14:45um with the Chinese population because
- 2:14:48there's such a lack of spirituality. Uh
- 2:14:51is it possible that next decades that
- 2:14:53there's going to be a reawakening of the
- 2:14:55Chinese population because of how you
- 2:14:57know how empty the lives are as you said
- 2:14:58like how how much the young people are
- 2:15:00suffering? Uh and what do you think
- 2:15:01would it would take for for that to
- 2:15:03happen?
- 2:15:03>> Yeah. Yeah. No, that's a great question
- 2:15:05and I'm seeing the same thing where as
- 2:15:08times get bad
- 2:15:10um Chinese revert back to a
- 2:15:14superstitious messianic
- 2:15:17um uh personality. And we saw that um
- 2:15:21during the u 19th century when after the
- 2:15:25open war you had something called the uh
- 2:15:28Taiping
- 2:15:30um Tango rebellions. Okay. And it was
- 2:15:34started by this guy who thought he was
- 2:15:35the long-lost brother of of Jesus. So
- 2:15:38what's been happening in China is yes
- 2:15:40you do have e economic collapse but you
- 2:15:43another issue that's been arising in
- 2:15:45China is these natural disasters a lot
- 2:15:47of flooding and that's always a source
- 2:15:50of um um creating that all this mess
- 2:15:54messianic energy. Okay. Almost a sort of
- 2:15:56like anxiety and desperation. And it's
- 2:15:59very in in these situations of poverty,
- 2:16:02of suffering,
- 2:16:04of natural calamity, it's very easy for
- 2:16:07people to come out and say like I'm the
- 2:16:09Messiah.
- 2:16:11Follow me. Um and so so I I think over
- 2:16:14the next 5 10 years, you will see a lot
- 2:16:17of this behavior. And once it starts,
- 2:16:20it's almost impossible to stamp out uh
- 2:16:23because the elite sees these messianic
- 2:16:25tendencies as a tool as political tool
- 2:16:28they can use to further their own uh
- 2:16:31power. Okay. Um Sultan
- 2:16:36>> Mr. Mr. Hello, it's is it's I'm watching
- 2:16:39your videos for two years and it's
- 2:16:43quite surprising for me to watch you man
- 2:16:46become very popular in these two years.
- 2:16:49So I have a question with Trump and she
- 2:16:51meeting
- 2:16:53um are we just watching the political
- 2:16:56theater when um US just forcing China to
- 2:17:01do some action to pressure Iran or we're
- 2:17:05just watching the Beijing Yeah. I mean
- 2:17:08it it appears that Beijing uh playing
- 2:17:10classic judo defense buying time for
- 2:17:13themsel and from game uh theory
- 2:17:16perspective is uh US China grand bargain
- 2:17:21fundamentally is illusion or does
- 2:17:25Washington really have uh leverage left
- 2:17:28to force China into structural deal?
- 2:17:32Thank you.
- 2:17:33So I think one assumption that you make
- 2:17:35that is erroneous is you think the
- 2:17:38nation state is the basis of geopolitics
- 2:17:40and that's not true. Like the United
- 2:17:42States actually doesn't care if it wins
- 2:17:45or loses this war in Iran. Um United
- 2:17:48States doesn't care if China is helping
- 2:17:50Iran or not. What Trump wants is to
- 2:17:53further his own political interest. And
- 2:17:55there are different political factions
- 2:17:56in the United States. The AI oligarchs
- 2:17:58for example who want to further their
- 2:18:00own political interests. and uh focusing
- 2:18:04on geopolitics, focusing on uh the
- 2:18:07nation state rivalry sort of distracts
- 2:18:09us from the the grander game being
- 2:18:12played. Okay. So again, as I mentioned,
- 2:18:16um Trump is just interested in
- 2:18:20um a third term and that means
- 2:18:21destroying his political opponents and
- 2:18:23who who are who are his political
- 2:18:25opponents? The globalists, right? Um, so
- 2:18:28he wants to work with China and Russia
- 2:18:30in order to destroy the power of Europe
- 2:18:34and the British Empire. Okay, that's
- 2:18:36that's the game you want you want to
- 2:18:37watch. The um game between the
- 2:18:39nationalist and the globalist. This Iran
- 2:18:41thing, it's almost a distraction. Okay,
- 2:18:44Sam, uh you're next.
- 2:18:47>> Hi, professor. So, I'm speaking to you
- 2:18:49from Hifa and I'm looking at the Hifa
- 2:18:52port which is uh owned by Chinese. Okay.
- 2:18:56[snorts] Well, Hifi is beautiful. I've
- 2:18:58actually been to Hifa.
- 2:18:59>> Oh, it's a beautiful city. I love it.
- 2:19:02>> And yes, so Chinese also own other
- 2:19:07companies such as Nova. There is Huawei
- 2:19:10here. I used to work there. And
- 2:19:14the China US relation as you pointed
- 2:19:16out, they're basically friends.
- 2:19:19>> Yeah.
- 2:19:20>> So, and Israel is friends with both.
- 2:19:23>> Yeah.
- 2:19:24So after the global breakdown, how do
- 2:19:29you see like past Judea rising and the
- 2:19:33US, China, Israel relationship going on?
- 2:19:38>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean um so I think what's
- 2:19:42happening today is the nation state is a
- 2:19:44cover for these multinationals. Okay.
- 2:19:47It's really these multinationals that
- 2:19:48have all the power. So like the the port
- 2:19:50in in Hi, it's not owned by the Chinese.
- 2:19:52is owned by a Chinese corporation that
- 2:19:55is independent or of the Chinese
- 2:19:58government. Okay, it acts its own
- 2:19:59interest and these companies are going
- 2:20:02to go to places where they can in where
- 2:20:05they can have the best return on
- 2:20:07investment and that's often Israel. Um
- 2:20:10so so I think like Pax Judea will become
- 2:20:15dominant is as the world breaks down
- 2:20:18these nation states become less
- 2:20:19relevant. these corporations, these
- 2:20:21multinationals become even more uh
- 2:20:25salient. They become even more obvious
- 2:20:27and they're looking for places to
- 2:20:31uh invest, places where they can find
- 2:20:33safe harbor. So what happens? What
- 2:20:36happens is you have a lot of
- 2:20:37corporations, both Chinese and American
- 2:20:40and European moving their headquarters
- 2:20:42to Israel. Uh because in Israel they
- 2:20:46have lots of human capital. Um, Israelis
- 2:20:49are really hardworking, really smart,
- 2:20:51really well educated and um, I
- 2:20:54understand there are there's been lots
- 2:20:56of Israelis who are like, "No, where
- 2:20:58that's not true, dude. I understand it's
- 2:21:00not I'm talking about things in relative
- 2:21:02terms. If I'm a if I'm a US corporation,
- 2:21:05I'm like, okay, where can I go in order
- 2:21:08to find talent that's that's cheap and
- 2:21:11effective?" Not the United States, not
- 2:21:13China. Well, I mean, it's Israel. Um and
- 2:21:17and Israel is still in a very strategic
- 2:21:20location in the uh Middle East. And one
- 2:21:25um one one example that I like I like to
- 2:21:29think about is the military. Okay. So
- 2:21:32yes, you can complain all you want about
- 2:21:34the IDF. Yeah. And like they're and like
- 2:21:37you know they're getting their asses
- 2:21:38kicked in Lebanon, whatever. Okay. But
- 2:21:40like you compare the IDF to like Sencom,
- 2:21:42which is just completely incompetent.
- 2:21:45Okay. And what we're seeing is SNCOM
- 2:21:47transferring a lot of its assets and
- 2:21:48resources to Israel uh because of its
- 2:21:51incompetence. Um right now Sangom is
- 2:21:54losing all its bases in the Middle East
- 2:21:55and therefore it's shifting all its
- 2:21:58assets over to Israel for protection. So
- 2:22:01I mean you know things aren't absolute.
- 2:22:04Yes, in absolute terms Israel has a lot
- 2:22:05of issues but I'm saying you compare
- 2:22:07Israel to other places and it seems
- 2:22:09right now that uh Israel will probably
- 2:22:11emerge as a dominant power in the Middle
- 2:22:14East. uh after this war in Iran is done
- 2:22:16with. Okay.
- 2:22:18>> All right. Uh Julius,
- 2:22:21>> Julius, you're next.
- 2:22:23>> Yes. Hello. Um just quick question. Um
- 2:22:26so I mean you probably talked about it,
- 2:22:29but still could you just briefly explain
- 2:22:32um so many media portray China as the US
- 2:22:37main rival. So I mean who who benefits
- 2:22:40from the narrative and and why? Yeah,
- 2:22:43that's that's a great question. Um, it's
- 2:22:46really the Americans who benefit from
- 2:22:48the narrative that China is um the main
- 2:22:51rival. Okay. Uh, specifically US tech
- 2:22:56companies, right? Because you're like s
- 2:22:59Alman or you're an AI company and
- 2:23:02everyone's asking you like why are we
- 2:23:05investing so much in data centers when
- 2:23:08um we're not actually deriving much
- 2:23:10value from your AI services. Okay. If I
- 2:23:12had a choice whether to have water
- 2:23:14electricity for free or chachi pity for
- 2:23:17free, I'm always going to pick water
- 2:23:18electricity. Okay? Because I need water
- 2:23:20electricity to survive and to live a
- 2:23:22good life. Whereas I don't actually need
- 2:23:23Chachi PT. And so the only response
- 2:23:26these companies have is well, if we
- 2:23:28don't do it, then China will do it. Do
- 2:23:29you want China to get AGI first? Because
- 2:23:32China will get AGI first if we don't
- 2:23:34actually invest in um data centers.
- 2:23:37Meanwhile, I think the United States has
- 2:23:3910 times as as many data centers as uh
- 2:23:42as uh China. So, it's it's it's absurd.
- 2:23:46But, you know, the media, the function
- 2:23:48of the media is to cause fairing anxiety
- 2:23:52in the United States. So, like, you
- 2:23:54know, fair because fair anxiety causes
- 2:23:56uh obedience. And so, they're always
- 2:23:59coming up with like these um uh
- 2:24:01narratives to scare people. And right
- 2:24:05now, honestly, they're focusing a lot on
- 2:24:07the China narrative, but like honestly,
- 2:24:09no one's scared of China because I mean,
- 2:24:13okay, back in the cold war, yeah, Russia
- 2:24:16was scary. Uh because, you know, Russ
- 2:24:20Russians are not afraid to die and uh
- 2:24:24Russia will kick your ass will kick your
- 2:24:26ass in a fight. China, Chinese people,
- 2:24:29no no. I mean you you there are you
- 2:24:33you've gone to school of Chinese kids.
- 2:24:34Okay. You you know what they're like.
- 2:24:36They are not a threat. Okay.
- 2:24:38>> Yeah. Okay. Thank you.
- 2:24:40>> Thank you. Uh Rang.
- 2:24:44>> Hi Jan. Can you hear me?
- 2:24:45>> Yeah. Go ahead.
- 2:24:46>> I have a I have a question that's only
- 2:24:48tangentially related to uh the US China
- 2:24:51relations. I'm wondering do we have
- 2:24:53enough time to to get into it?
- 2:24:55>> No. No we don't. I I I want to focus on
- 2:24:57China right now. Uh
- 2:24:59>> all right. Understood.
- 2:25:00>> Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Uh Tyler.
- 2:25:07>> Hey, professor. Can you hear me?
- 2:25:08>> Yep. Go ahead.
- 2:25:09>> Yep.
- 2:25:09>> Hi. Thank you. Uh long time listener,
- 2:25:12big fan. Um quick question just
- 2:25:14basically I know you believe that AGI is
- 2:25:17not something that will come about
- 2:25:20within the next couple of years. But if
- 2:25:21you're wrong in that regard, how do you
- 2:25:23think that will affect the USChina
- 2:25:25relationship moving forward once that is
- 2:25:28created?
- 2:25:29>> Yeah. Yeah, that's a great question. Um,
- 2:25:31okay. So, let's game theory this out.
- 2:25:33Okay, let's just say for example,
- 2:25:35they're able to achieve AGI.
- 2:25:38Um, well, whichever nation um is able to
- 2:25:43achieve AGI first will obviously
- 2:25:48dominate. Okay, but but here's my
- 2:25:50question. Yeah, I'm just using game
- 2:25:52theory. [snorts]
- 2:25:54Why would other nations be hostile
- 2:25:56towards this AGI? Right? Because like
- 2:26:00United States achieves AGI and China's
- 2:26:02like okay does that mean like we shut we
- 2:26:04shut our borders and not allow our
- 2:26:06people to access this AGI or do we allow
- 2:26:09our people to access this AGI because we
- 2:26:11know that it will bring much more e
- 2:26:12economic benefits to us right
- 2:26:16um if if I am a politician in China do I
- 2:26:19care who actually controls this AGI all
- 2:26:21I care about is staying in power more um
- 2:26:24and and so the example I use is well
- 2:26:27there there is an analogy which is um
- 2:26:31the US dollar right so so so the United
- 2:26:34States controls the world's currency and
- 2:26:37that's an absurd power it's it's almost
- 2:26:39as powerful even more powerful than the
- 2:26:41idea of AGI right and China could have
- 2:26:43been like screw this we're not we're not
- 2:26:45going to um uh trade with the US dollar
- 2:26:49because that would destroy our national
- 2:26:51sovereignty which would be a legitimate
- 2:26:53argument but what happened China did
- 2:26:55trade in the US dollar okay and China
- 2:26:57became very wealthy because of its trade
- 2:26:59with the US dollar. Um its people became
- 2:27:02much more productive. Um they were able
- 2:27:04to build better infrastructure that
- 2:27:05people were able to travel around the
- 2:27:06world and learn learn more knowledge.
- 2:27:08Okay. So my question then is if the
- 2:27:10United States were the first to achieve
- 2:27:12AGI, why would China actually be hostile
- 2:27:16towards this AGI, right? Why would China
- 2:27:18be like no, we had to create our own
- 2:27:19AGI? They wouldn't care. They'd be like
- 2:27:21no. If AGI means like our economy
- 2:27:24becomes stronger, if AGI means that our
- 2:27:26political system becomes much stronger,
- 2:27:28then then we will adopt it. And I think
- 2:27:30this would be true for like every
- 2:27:32country. All right. Now, let's just say
- 2:27:33China were were
- 2:27:36to be the first to achieve AGI, right?
- 2:27:40Um this would be a problem for the
- 2:27:43United States because United States
- 2:27:44would would not surrender
- 2:27:46uh it sovereignty over to this Chinese
- 2:27:50um uh AGI. Um so
- 2:27:56um so I mean it it would benefit China
- 2:27:59to achieve this AGI and honestly this is
- 2:28:02why if you look at Chinese policym these
- 2:28:05past five years China has gone all in in
- 2:28:09to AGI but again I'm not really sure if
- 2:28:13China were to achieve AGI if that would
- 2:28:16be a good thing for China because United
- 2:28:18States still controls the US dollar and
- 2:28:21United States could in theory choose to
- 2:28:24embargo China, right? So, China has this
- 2:28:26AGI, but Japan, India, Southeast Asia,
- 2:28:31Australia have chosen to
- 2:28:34embargo China. Um, how would the AGI
- 2:28:38respond to that? Well, it couldn't
- 2:28:39respond to that, right? Because nuclear
- 2:28:41weapons. Then how about Russia? Would
- 2:28:44would Russia surrender its sovereignty
- 2:28:46to this Chinese AGI? Probably not. Okay.
- 2:28:48So, so it's a really upsett situation
- 2:28:50where if America were to achieve Agi
- 2:28:52first, then the world would basically
- 2:28:55follow the American lead, especially
- 2:28:57China. But if China were to achieve AGI
- 2:28:59first, then uh the United States would
- 2:29:01basically declare war declare war on
- 2:29:03China. All right.
- 2:29:07>> Very interesting stuff. Thank you for
- 2:29:08answering.
- 2:29:09>> Okay. All right. Uh FH.
- 2:29:14>> Um hello. So
- 2:29:17um the regarding the analysis about she
- 2:29:21looking a little frail um a little
- 2:29:24unhealthy
- 2:29:26you know ever since he he came to power
- 2:29:28in 2012 there've been you know it's like
- 2:29:31a seasonal thing where if he disappears
- 2:29:33for a week or two and people um start
- 2:29:36talking about oh is you know did
- 2:29:37something happen and he always reappears
- 2:29:39it's you there's been so many false
- 2:29:42alarms and you know I just uh personally
- 2:29:46just um [snorts] have an attitude of uh
- 2:29:50whenever something happens to him like
- 2:29:52uh it's going to happen but you can't
- 2:29:55you can't read the tea leaves or
- 2:29:57anticipate it because it's you know he's
- 2:29:59he always comes back every time so far.
- 2:30:01So um what makes you know the these
- 2:30:06recent uh signals he's giving or people
- 2:30:10observations that people are making like
- 2:30:12is there anything different about them
- 2:30:14or is this just another false alarm so
- 2:30:16to speak and also um regarding something
- 2:30:19you said in um your Substack about
- 2:30:22Chinese whispers you said that there's a
- 2:30:25rumor about
- 2:30:27um you know potentially being freed uh
- 2:30:29from prison
- 2:30:31um and you know somehow staging some
- 2:30:36political action uh possibly you know
- 2:30:39himself is already 77 years old you know
- 2:30:43is that really does that how how would
- 2:30:45that rumor have any wings when um
- 2:30:48somebody's been been in prison himself
- 2:30:50since 2012 is already 77 years old I
- 2:30:53mean how how how would something like
- 2:30:55that possibly work
- 2:30:58>> yeah Um yeah, no no you make a great
- 2:31:02point which is yeah throughout the years
- 2:31:04there's been always been rumors about
- 2:31:07she's health and the most um serious
- 2:31:10rumor is he actually suff suffered a
- 2:31:12stroke uh a couple years ago and this
- 2:31:15explains the paralysis in the Chinese
- 2:31:18system. So um I did say throughout this
- 2:31:21presentation that through a series of
- 2:31:25events he was able to consolidate power
- 2:31:28and install his friends, his cronies,
- 2:31:32his associates into very important
- 2:31:34position of power, especially in the
- 2:31:36military. But over time they've been
- 2:31:38purged. So the question then is like how
- 2:31:41like like how did he lose so much power?
- 2:31:43And the answer is uh apparently the
- 2:31:46rumor is again this this is all rumors.
- 2:31:48We have absolutely no idea. During a
- 2:31:50very important meeting, he had a stroke
- 2:31:52and he was hospitalized for a few days
- 2:31:54and while he's away that um allowed uh
- 2:31:59different political factions to get
- 2:32:00together and go after all his associates
- 2:32:04and that's why we have this paralysis
- 2:32:06right now in the Chinese system. Again,
- 2:32:08this is only a rumor. I have absolutely
- 2:32:10no idea um if this is true. If it if it
- 2:32:13were true, it would actually help help
- 2:32:15us explain a lot. My main question, my
- 2:32:19main problem with uh what's going on in
- 2:32:23China right now is a sense of deep
- 2:32:25paralysis where it doesn't like I'm
- 2:32:28again I live and work in China. It
- 2:32:29doesn't feel as though someone is in
- 2:32:33control. Now, um all the reporting about
- 2:32:36C is that he's a very authoritarian
- 2:32:38person. He's a very strong willed. He's
- 2:32:40very doineering. But in China, it
- 2:32:44doesn't again it doesn't feel as though
- 2:32:46the country is moving in towards a
- 2:32:49certain direction. Okay. So let's just
- 2:32:52game the insistence. Okay. Well, if
- 2:32:54someone were in charge, what would be
- 2:32:56happening? Okay. Well, first of all, I
- 2:32:58think what would be happening is
- 2:32:59basically
- 2:33:01uh the beginnings of preparation for war
- 2:33:04against Taiwan to reclaim Taiwan, right?
- 2:33:06And you would see that in the Chinese
- 2:33:08media. Um you would see that in schools.
- 2:33:12you you would just basically see a rally
- 2:33:14around the flag. Okay, that's number
- 2:33:16one. Number two is you will you would
- 2:33:19see the emergence of some national
- 2:33:23champions
- 2:33:24um maybe um um that are heavily
- 2:33:28supported by by the state. And yeah, you
- 2:33:32do have some some some of these AI
- 2:33:33companies, but it seems very much like
- 2:33:37um a lot of these companies are,
- 2:33:40you know, they're they're not as
- 2:33:42energetic as you would think they are.
- 2:33:44Number three is you would see a much
- 2:33:47more strong Chinese voice on the
- 2:33:52geopolitical stage. Okay, so remember
- 2:33:53back um 10 years ago, there was this
- 2:33:56huge trend of this wolf warrior
- 2:33:58diplomacy, right? where you have like
- 2:34:00these very outspoken Chinese diplomats
- 2:34:03speaking the Chinese narrative in
- 2:34:05different places. They were very
- 2:34:06aggressive, but it was clear they're
- 2:34:08being supported by by a very strong
- 2:34:11central authority. And nowadays, you
- 2:34:13don't have these people. You don't have
- 2:34:16any real spokesperson for the Chinese
- 2:34:20interest on the geopolitical stage. It's
- 2:34:23very weird how you have this one
- 2:34:24Ukraine, you have this war in Iran, and
- 2:34:27there's no real spokesperson who
- 2:34:30representing the Chinese interest. You
- 2:34:31have like someone like Professor Morandi
- 2:34:33representing the um Iranian interest,
- 2:34:36but you don't have a designated figure
- 2:34:38going on like Piers Morgan or CNN or BBC
- 2:34:41just speaking out the Chinese interest.
- 2:34:43That to me is really weird and that
- 2:34:45suggests like they don't really have a
- 2:34:47narrative they want to present. Um, so,
- 2:34:50so all of this is really weird to me and
- 2:34:52my my only explanation is the country is
- 2:34:54in paralysis. Why is the country in
- 2:34:55paralysis? There's no leader in charge.
- 2:34:58Um, but again, I mean like like like I
- 2:35:00could be wrong. Um, but I do see some
- 2:35:04stark contrast between C's first five
- 2:35:07years in office and like these past two
- 2:35:10years. um especially in terms like wolf
- 2:35:13warrior diplomacy especially in terms of
- 2:35:16um you know presenting an international
- 2:35:18agenda like you know like like remember
- 2:35:21in his first uh five-year term he
- 2:35:23emphasized the Chinese dream a lot right
- 2:35:26the idea of an emergent China on the
- 2:35:28world stage now he doesn't even talk
- 2:35:31about the Chinese dream anymore that
- 2:35:32that that is his singular and you know
- 2:35:35um idea and he doesn't really talk about
- 2:35:38it in fact he doesn't talk about any
- 2:35:39ideas and that's weird Because
- 2:35:41traditionally these Chinese leaders,
- 2:35:42they do have a slogan or a theme that
- 2:35:46captures the essence of what they're
- 2:35:48trying to achieve. And I'm I don't know
- 2:35:50what he's trying to achieve. Okay. Maybe
- 2:35:52Taiwanese uh re reunification, but like
- 2:35:56that's not really discussed anymore in
- 2:35:58in China, which is really weird.
- 2:36:02>> Okay.
- 2:36:03>> Thank you. Um if do I have time for a
- 2:36:06quick follow?
- 2:36:06>> Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Go ahead.
- 2:36:08>> Yeah. So, um I I also remember that last
- 2:36:12year um at the um the commemoration for
- 2:36:17uh World War II, Putin and she were
- 2:36:20caught talking on the hot mic about you
- 2:36:22know possibly um extending lifespan with
- 2:36:25with new technologies. Um, I mean, is is
- 2:36:28that just idle talk or is that a real
- 2:36:31possibility for people with that kind of
- 2:36:34power to, you know, live at functioning
- 2:36:38um healthy uh age um long term that that
- 2:36:42normal people don't have access to. And
- 2:36:44I know that um in a recent talk um in
- 2:36:47the US that you said, you know, there's
- 2:36:50no guarantee that that the leaders would
- 2:36:52die at any normal timeline.
- 2:36:55No, I mean um he looks like Putin who is
- 2:37:00again his 70s and he looks extremely
- 2:37:02alert. Um he looks pretty healthy. U
- 2:37:05Modi um is also someone who looks pretty
- 2:37:08alert, pretty healthy. So um I do think
- 2:37:12they have access to to the best
- 2:37:15technology and um you know like let's
- 2:37:18just assume that there is this factional
- 2:37:20struggle within China right now. Well,
- 2:37:24actually it it would be in the best
- 2:37:25interest of presidency to look sick and
- 2:37:28unwell in order to throw his opponents
- 2:37:31off, okay? Because remember the like
- 2:37:34like it's not hard for these guys to get
- 2:37:36together and overthrow him, okay? But
- 2:37:39like the problem is like what happens
- 2:37:40afterwards? They don't actually trust
- 2:37:42each other, okay? They're they're always
- 2:37:44like scrambling to figure out. They're
- 2:37:46opportunistic. They're they're
- 2:37:47speculative. They're trying to they're
- 2:37:48trying to like position themselves into
- 2:37:51uh power and and in China like the
- 2:37:55general rule is like whoever is the
- 2:37:56first to act is is the first to die.
- 2:37:59Okay. All right. Uh let's continue. Um
- 2:38:02sorry. Uh SM, you're next.
- 2:38:06SM.
- 2:38:10>> Hello, professor. Can you hear me?
- 2:38:11>> Yes. Yes, I can. Go ahead.
- 2:38:13>> Yes. Uh my question is with the coming
- 2:38:15Bronze Age like collapse and civil wars
- 2:38:18what would happen to countries which are
- 2:38:20which have nuclear weapons like China
- 2:38:22which I recently read was increasing its
- 2:38:25nuclear arsenal.
- 2:38:27>> Yeah that's that's a great question. Um
- 2:38:29basically what happens u if if there's a
- 2:38:32branch collapse then a lot of the
- 2:38:34struggle is is domestic and internal
- 2:38:36which just basically means you're not
- 2:38:38you just can't use these nuclear
- 2:38:39weapons. Um and over time what happens
- 2:38:42is the state's capacity to deploy these
- 2:38:45nuclear weapons becomes degraded right
- 2:38:48so you need a lot of upkeep and
- 2:38:51maintenance to maintain these nuclear
- 2:38:52weapons if you don't have the resources
- 2:38:54then they get ignored and then um
- 2:38:58they're just they're just like not used.
- 2:39:00Okay.
- 2:39:01>> All right. Uh but thank you for the
- 2:39:03question. Yeah. Uh Elena, you're you're
- 2:39:05next.
- 2:39:10Sorry, I just figured out how to unmute
- 2:39:11here. Can you hear me?
- 2:39:12>> Yes. Yes, I can. Yes, I can.
- 2:39:14>> Okay. Um, one thing that hasn't been
- 2:39:16mentioned, and I don't know if you saw
- 2:39:18this, but I find it really intriguing,
- 2:39:21the um, beatification of Archbishop
- 2:39:24Fulton Sheen
- 2:39:26happened yesterday, which is the same
- 2:39:29day Trump hosted she for the state
- 2:39:32dinner and everything at the White
- 2:39:33House. And what I find so ironic is
- 2:39:37Fulton Sheen was an incredibly popular
- 2:39:41American
- 2:39:43advocate against communism.
- 2:39:46Super super um famous story in the
- 2:39:481950s. It was actually the story of a
- 2:39:5110-year-old Chinese girl named Little
- 2:39:54Lee that um was martyed in in China
- 2:39:58during the Communist Revolution. um that
- 2:40:02inspired his big devotion to a daily
- 2:40:04holy hour. And um I don't know if you
- 2:40:07know that story, but anyway, I just find
- 2:40:09it so odd that this date of Fton Sheen's
- 2:40:13um beatification, which 50,000 people
- 2:40:16filled a football stadium for in um St.
- 2:40:19Louis and it had all this media
- 2:40:21coverage, it kind of really overshadowed
- 2:40:24she's visit. And um this date for Fton
- 2:40:29Sheen's beatification was picked 6
- 2:40:32months ago by the Vatican which is
- 2:40:34probably before China and the US made
- 2:40:37their their arrangement. So, do you
- 2:40:40think that that is just pure coincidence
- 2:40:43or do you think that it was maybe um
- 2:40:48kind of an insult to she especially
- 2:40:50since Trump was complaining that the
- 2:40:52media didn't cover his event cuz I guess
- 2:40:54there's all the White House media ban
- 2:40:57all that drama going on. But meanwhile,
- 2:40:59all these grassroots news agencies were
- 2:41:02covering this feel-good, happy
- 2:41:05grassroots, you know, we love America,
- 2:41:08we are so not communist. So, I just
- 2:41:11wanted to know if if you saw the the
- 2:41:14alignment of those two events
- 2:41:17and how, you know, Fulton Sheen, he he
- 2:41:20was inspired by a martyrdom of a
- 2:41:2310-year-old Chinese girl. Um, so I just
- 2:41:26I just want to know your thoughts on um
- 2:41:29on perhaps the religious
- 2:41:33>> uh vein in all of this.
- 2:41:36>> Yeah. Um so thank you for drawing for
- 2:41:39for bringing this up. I actually have
- 2:41:41absolutely no idea about um about who
- 2:41:44who he is um and his relationship to to
- 2:41:48China. Um so I I think it's a
- 2:41:52coincidence. I I I it's very hard for me
- 2:41:54to imagine they actually planned this
- 2:41:56out and they picked a date when um
- 2:41:59President C would be in uh the United
- 2:42:02States because remember something really
- 2:42:03important is they only confirm that
- 2:42:05President C would visit United States
- 2:42:09two days prior to his actual visit. Um
- 2:42:12and there was actually a health scare um
- 2:42:15where he was in India and he had to he
- 2:42:17had he skipped the the state dinner and
- 2:42:20he had he had to go back to China. So um
- 2:42:24I don't know how much u planning goes
- 2:42:28into these things. What I will say
- 2:42:30though is the I think people are just
- 2:42:34underwhelmed by this visit where maybe
- 2:42:39um
- 2:42:40I had some expectations that there would
- 2:42:42be some some surprises
- 2:42:44um and it's been very underwhelming. It
- 2:42:47it almost seems like a rehash of the May
- 2:42:50visit of the May visit, but but not as
- 2:42:53interesting. Um I I think there's just
- 2:42:56not that much media coverage of um of of
- 2:43:01the visit, and there's been very little
- 2:43:03commentary. I I I don't think I don't
- 2:43:04think people are that interested in the
- 2:43:07uh in the in the China visit. So So
- 2:43:10that's what I find really interesting,
- 2:43:11how there just doesn't seem that much
- 2:43:14interest out there.
- 2:43:16Okay. Well, um, thank you for your
- 2:43:18thoughts and if you don't know who
- 2:43:20Fulton Sheen is, uh, look him up on
- 2:43:22YouTube sometime. He, uh, was a very
- 2:43:24entertaining TV star back in his day.
- 2:43:26>> Okay. Okay. Thanks. Okay. Um, uh, Sam,
- 2:43:31you're next.
- 2:43:34>> Yeah. Hey, professor again. So, um, you
- 2:43:37talked about the US dollar crashing
- 2:43:41and coming to an end, but before it's
- 2:43:44going to come to an end, you said after
- 2:43:47the Chinese visit,
- 2:43:49it's going to probably return uh back to
- 2:43:53normal levels somehow. We've already
- 2:43:56seen it like reviving but do you see it
- 2:44:00uh
- 2:44:01this is like happening for the one next
- 2:44:04one two years or like is it like for the
- 2:44:06couple of months until the war returns?
- 2:44:10How do you see the dollar hanging
- 2:44:13around?
- 2:44:14>> Yeah, I I think it's very hard to
- 2:44:16replace the US dollar. Um I think in the
- 2:44:20worst case scenario there'll be other um
- 2:44:23currencies that challenge the dominance
- 2:44:26of the US dollar but like um and it's
- 2:44:29possible you will have these different
- 2:44:31uh trading blocks emerge but um honestly
- 2:44:36and this is not financial advice
- 2:44:37honestly if if I had um wealth I would
- 2:44:41just keep it in in US treasuries the
- 2:44:43most the most the most liquid. And I'm
- 2:44:45not saying this because I think US
- 2:44:48treasuries um are the best investment.
- 2:44:50There are probably some some um other uh
- 2:44:54more uh there's probably some other
- 2:44:57investments that give better or return
- 2:44:59on investment. I'm just saying like the
- 2:45:01US treasuries are just the most
- 2:45:02convenient, right? You can do the most
- 2:45:05with with with US treasuries. And I
- 2:45:07think that in just a time of
- 2:45:08uncertainty, then I think that you want
- 2:45:11the most flexibility. Okay. Uh Roberto,
- 2:45:13uh you're next.
- 2:45:18Roberto, is he here?
- 2:45:24Uh, Roberto, you you you have your hand
- 2:45:26raised?
- 2:45:28>> Hi. Um, hey, just big fan, professor.
- 2:45:32Can you hear me?
- 2:45:33>> Yes. Yes, I can. Yeah.
- 2:45:36>> Okay. Okay. So, at the moment, I'm
- 2:45:39living in the US as an immigrant. I've
- 2:45:42been here for four years.
- 2:45:45And my question is, how do you see the
- 2:45:49ice
- 2:45:50uh situation all around the US? You
- 2:45:53think it's safe for me? Uh I've seen
- 2:45:56locally ice it's around. So I'm always
- 2:46:01careful where I'm going. So I I try to
- 2:46:04stay at home most of the time I go to
- 2:46:06work, but I'm just afraid that they will
- 2:46:09close the borders and I end up trapped.
- 2:46:12I'm originally from Mexico and
- 2:46:16yeah, that's pretty much it.
- 2:46:19>> What do you think?
- 2:46:20>> Yeah, I mean, you know, it's hard for me
- 2:46:22to comment on this because I mean, I'm
- 2:46:26not American. Um, and um I'm not I like
- 2:46:33um yeah, it it's really hard for for for
- 2:46:37me to make a judgment. I I think ISIS's
- 2:46:39power will only grow, but I think it's
- 2:46:43possible ICE shifts its focus from
- 2:46:46dealing with illegal immigrants to
- 2:46:47dealing with um cities that don't
- 2:46:50cooperate. Um I think ICE is slowly
- 2:46:52becoming a police force, a personal
- 2:46:54police force for Donald Trump.
- 2:46:57>> Okay. But I mean it's very hard for for
- 2:47:00comment and and like I I I hope like we
- 2:47:02have 10 more minutes left, but I I want
- 2:47:03to keep focused on China. Okay. So,
- 2:47:07um, we've done one round. Okay. And I I
- 2:47:10see some hands up. Um,
- 2:47:16um,
- 2:47:18uh, you know what? I have a good
- 2:47:19question. Um, and let me respond to this
- 2:47:23question. Okay. So, if you have a
- 2:47:24question, you can also send me a private
- 2:47:25message. Do you think so this question
- 2:47:28is do you think C is supporting Trump to
- 2:47:30get his third term by mediating between
- 2:47:32Iran and US to make a good Nobel Peace
- 2:47:34Prize theater? Yeah. Um I think this is
- 2:47:38much too clever.
- 2:47:40Um I think Trump doesn't need she and
- 2:47:44Putin's help to get a third term. Okay.
- 2:47:47Uh but what I do think is
- 2:47:51that uh the three Trump, C and Putin,
- 2:47:54they do benefit from global chaos in
- 2:47:58order to
- 2:48:00um degrade the power of the globalists,
- 2:48:04especially the Europeans and the
- 2:48:05Canadians, uh the city of London
- 2:48:07basically. And I think that at some
- 2:48:09point um the three will get together and
- 2:48:12propose maybe a new world order where
- 2:48:16the where the three countries and
- 2:48:17possibly Iran get together and they
- 2:48:20agree on a new global uh order of
- 2:48:25stability and that will get Trump the um
- 2:48:27Nobel Peace Prize. So I think that's
- 2:48:30what what what might happen. All right.
- 2:48:33Um
- 2:48:35okay. So, we have 10 more minutes and
- 2:48:40let us do another round. Okay. But like
- 2:48:43please ask your question really quick.
- 2:48:44Okay. JL, did did you have a question? A
- 2:48:47really quick question.
- 2:48:52Uh JL.
- 2:48:55Okay.
- 2:48:56Uh Stephen Stefan.
- 2:49:00Okay. Sorry. All right. We have two two
- 2:49:02two. Okay. And and we'll end the
- 2:49:04session. Okay. Baron, did you have a
- 2:49:07>> Yes, I have a China related question.
- 2:49:09So, uh, lastly, just I wanted to ask
- 2:49:12about this while we stop. So, the, uh,
- 2:49:15currently the US AI companies, I assume
- 2:49:18they're trying to pressure Trump into
- 2:49:21releasing new AI regulations in order to
- 2:49:25prevent competition so they can
- 2:49:26monopolize it themselves. Y,
- 2:49:28>> but they're also in a situation where
- 2:49:31they're treating uh Chinese AI companies
- 2:49:34as like, oh, we're the they're the main
- 2:49:36threat. We have to make sure we out
- 2:49:38compete these guys. So, uh will they
- 2:49:42will the US eventually try to release
- 2:49:45regulations that prevent open-source AI
- 2:49:48models from being uh run by smaller
- 2:49:52companies or individuals and then just
- 2:49:55only allow like the big companies like
- 2:49:58Claude or Open AI or whatever.
- 2:50:00>> Yeah. Um yeah, that's a really good
- 2:50:02question. So I I don't know enough about
- 2:50:04the industry to uh comment um but but
- 2:50:09but I I will make two guesses. Okay,
- 2:50:11guess number one is they will definitely
- 2:50:13block Chinese opensource models from
- 2:50:16entering the United States. That's
- 2:50:18pretty obvious. Um and my prediction
- 2:50:22number two is they're actually much more
- 2:50:25interested in securing government
- 2:50:28funding for their projects. Okay. And so
- 2:50:31what that might mean is a
- 2:50:34nationalization of data of data centers
- 2:50:37um where the government ass like assumes
- 2:50:40the cost of running these data centers
- 2:50:43and then uh these air companies can can
- 2:50:45just run run run their their models.
- 2:50:48Okay.
- 2:50:49>> Uh but I I I don't know know enough
- 2:50:51about the industry but but but those are
- 2:50:53my two guesses.
- 2:50:54>> Okay.
- 2:50:55>> Right now big thing used to compare the
- 2:50:57different models is like benchmarks. So
- 2:50:59how would if Chinese AI open source AIS
- 2:51:02get cut off from the United States, how
- 2:51:04would people compare the performances
- 2:51:07between the two and say, "Oh, the
- 2:51:09Chinese is still right on US's tail."
- 2:51:13Uh, so we need to keep doing more
- 2:51:14funding.
- 2:51:15>> Yeah. I I don't think they care. I mean,
- 2:51:17like like I I I think you're right. I
- 2:51:19think all they're interested in is is
- 2:51:21creating a monopoly. Um, and that means
- 2:51:24controlling the levers of of of policym
- 2:51:26in Washington DC. Okay.
- 2:51:28um uh Robert and then Helen. Okay. And
- 2:51:32and and [clears throat]
- 2:51:34we'll we'll close the session.
- 2:51:36>> Professor, I just share from the the AI
- 2:51:39industry. Okay. All the investor in
- 2:51:42China AI
- 2:51:43like Hill House Capital like the the
- 2:51:47co-founder of the Alibaba group all the
- 2:51:49guy they graduated from same university
- 2:51:51like you like yours from GR from GR from
- 2:51:54Yo through the AI competition among USC
- 2:51:58and China is theater okay so the in fact
- 2:52:02the investor of the China AI robotics is
- 2:52:06the ch is USC fund venture capital okay
- 2:52:09They are agent they are transnational
- 2:52:11agents. Okay. They are graded from same
- 2:52:14university the Yale university. Okay.
- 2:52:16Also professor S master go I got a I
- 2:52:20find a reason why you why you are
- 2:52:23admitted by the year because they have
- 2:52:26the guy who name is he lose his fun of
- 2:52:29the of the time magazine fortune
- 2:52:31magazine. Every single US read and
- 2:52:35educated is funded BY THIS GUY. THIS guy
- 2:52:38is the founder of the of the USC
- 2:52:40century. This guy was born in the 70s.
- 2:52:44>> Sorry. Do you have a question? Like like
- 2:52:45like we're running out of time.
- 2:52:46>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean I mean I mean that so
- 2:52:49since the the the it's a theater. Okay.
- 2:52:53The competition between USA and China.
- 2:52:57What will happen?
- 2:53:00>> As you point out I I I think you're
- 2:53:02right. I think a lot of this is theater.
- 2:53:04I I think I think that um um what's
- 2:53:07going to happen is an AI AI takeover of
- 2:53:10government in both places. Okay. Uh
- 2:53:13Helen, your your question.
- 2:53:15>> I'm just wondering about the bricks uh
- 2:53:18goldback system that China launched out
- 2:53:20of Hong Kong. What's your take on that
- 2:53:22and the petro dollar?
- 2:53:25>> Yeah, that's a great question. Um so the
- 2:53:27difference between the petro dollar and
- 2:53:28the brick system is in the petro dollar
- 2:53:31you have a hegeimon. Okay. What a
- 2:53:33hedgeimon is a resolution sorry a
- 2:53:36dispute resolution mechanism okay like a
- 2:53:39godfather you don't have that in breaks
- 2:53:41uh and so what's what's been happening
- 2:53:43is no one can actually agree on on
- 2:53:45anything unless China's willing to
- 2:53:48employ or deploy military force to
- 2:53:51resolve conflicts then no one's going to
- 2:53:53take China seriously um I mean the idea
- 2:53:56like you know we all sit together and we
- 2:53:57all get along never works I mean like
- 2:54:01like if you actually have people coming
- 2:54:03together and sitting around and trying
- 2:54:05to come to a like a you know like like
- 2:54:07like a decision it will never ever work
- 2:54:10you always need someone in charge and
- 2:54:12unfortunately China is not willing to do
- 2:54:14this okay so for China to be in in
- 2:54:16charge it either needs to deploy its
- 2:54:18military which is it doesn't want to do
- 2:54:20and it also or it needs to be the global
- 2:54:23reserve currency but the global reserve
- 2:54:24currency just means like you have open
- 2:54:27capital markets right and China doesn't
- 2:54:29want to do that either so so it's it's a
- 2:54:31ridiculous situation where China doesn't
- 2:54:34want want to assume any of the risks and
- 2:54:36liabilities but it wants everyone to get
- 2:54:38along which never happens. Okay. Um so I
- 2:54:41have a question uh about this about the
- 2:54:44cabala. Again this is an interesting
- 2:54:45question. Question is do you think there
- 2:54:48are some Chinese elites who are trying
- 2:54:49to study the cabala? And the answer is
- 2:54:51they're not because it's too hard. Uh
- 2:54:54the cabala is u a very complex uh
- 2:54:58tradition. Uh, it's pretty simple if
- 2:55:00you're Jewish because you need to both
- 2:55:02access the Bible as well as the occult.
- 2:55:05And the Chinese, I mean, like the
- 2:55:07Chinese elite, my god, you know, they're
- 2:55:10they're not that bright. Um, and they're
- 2:55:12kind of lazy, too. Okay. Uh, FH, did did
- 2:55:17you have a question? FH.
- 2:55:19>> Um, yeah. So, you touched on this
- 2:55:21briefly um I think in your Los Angeles
- 2:55:25talk where where you were always
- 2:55:27confused about your American friends
- 2:55:29coming to China and and sort of you know
- 2:55:31being enamored with everything and then
- 2:55:33when you step into LA you you you felt
- 2:55:35like um you understood their perspective
- 2:55:38much more. suggest, you know, now that
- 2:55:41um you've had a little time away from
- 2:55:44the the states, I mean, can you speak on
- 2:55:47um how your perspective might have
- 2:55:49shifted whether um you look at China
- 2:55:52differently or whether you look at um
- 2:55:54the US differently um after um you know,
- 2:55:57not being there for several years.
- 2:55:59>> Yeah, that's a great question. Um, so
- 2:56:01you're absolutely right in that when I
- 2:56:03was in China for too long, I tend to
- 2:56:06maybe judge China too harshly and I tend
- 2:56:10to
- 2:56:11um perceive the US in a more positive
- 2:56:14light and uh um uh that's just human
- 2:56:19nature and you know it's a great
- 2:56:21question like you know so after spending
- 2:56:23a month in United States how do I feel
- 2:56:24about the US? How do I feel about China?
- 2:56:27Well, I I I mean like I I don't think
- 2:56:31the United States is heading in the
- 2:56:33right direction. I don't think China is
- 2:56:35heading in in the right direction. Um
- 2:56:38and my uh my my my desire is to explore
- 2:56:42more of the world so I can get a more
- 2:56:44global perspective. But I am not
- 2:56:46optimistic about either the United
- 2:56:48States or um or China. I think both
- 2:56:52countries have a lot of of issues. I
- 2:56:56think uh these issues will become much
- 2:56:58more clear um in a year or two. Uh I
- 2:57:02will also say that regardless of the
- 2:57:07issues in United States, United States
- 2:57:09is still a nicer place to live than than
- 2:57:11China. I mean um one main takeaway I've
- 2:57:15had uh these two months of traveling
- 2:57:18North America is I really don't want to
- 2:57:20go back to China, man. I really hate
- 2:57:23China. I I don't like people spitting on
- 2:57:26the streets everywhere. I don't like
- 2:57:28people bubbing each other, pushing each
- 2:57:30other around. I don't like people like
- 2:57:32just cursing each other out for like the
- 2:57:34most minor things. I I don't like the
- 2:57:37pollution in China. Um you know, I mean
- 2:57:40like like I'm spend I'm spending some
- 2:57:42time in the woods in Canada. I love the
- 2:57:44fact that my kids can just explore the
- 2:57:46woods by himself with his friends. I I I
- 2:57:49I think that's how kids should just grow
- 2:57:50up and you can't do that in China. So um
- 2:57:55I'm looking to get out of China as soon
- 2:57:56as possible. Um but I I do understand
- 2:58:00the limitations and problems in um North
- 2:58:03America as well. Okay. So Shadur, you
- 2:58:06have do do you want to ask your question
- 2:58:08and and then that'll be it. Okay. We're
- 2:58:10we're four o'clock. Yeah.
- 2:58:12>> Thanks, Professor. Professor, I have a a
- 2:58:15very transparent and open question. This
- 2:58:17is uh my my cousin and I have been
- 2:58:19listening to you for a while now and
- 2:58:21really the things you talk about are
- 2:58:22really enlightening. You go very deep on
- 2:58:24a lot of things that I think are not
- 2:58:27said. One one criticism of you that
- 2:58:30constantly come up with me and my
- 2:58:31cousins when we talk about these things
- 2:58:33is um you know a lot of I feel like a
- 2:58:37lot of podcasters and just people in
- 2:58:39general nowadays they they say things
- 2:58:42that kind of stir up a lot of anxiety in
- 2:58:44people. um you know obviously times are
- 2:58:46bad and it it causes people to you know
- 2:58:48worry about the future and one Christian
- 2:58:51that's come up of you a lot and it's
- 2:58:53it's that you know you have some sort of
- 2:58:55ulterior motive whether people are
- 2:58:57saying that you know because you're from
- 2:58:59China that might have something to do
- 2:59:00with it where you're trying to stir up
- 2:59:02something or whatever it is some
- 2:59:03ulterior motive and you know my cousin
- 2:59:05and me we're on the side of no like
- 2:59:07you're we truly believe you're doing it
- 2:59:09because you want to better the world you
- 2:59:12want to you know what I mean you you
- 2:59:13have a you have a mission that that you
- 2:59:15want to just expose truth basically. So
- 2:59:19I I guess kind of what what I I always
- 2:59:23we always kind of defend you but what
- 2:59:25would you say to that if if that came up
- 2:59:27to you that question?
- 2:59:29>> Yeah. No no it's a great question and
- 2:59:30something I struggle with every day.
- 2:59:32Okay. So my main response it's very
- 2:59:34simple is I try to make predictions. But
- 2:59:37the reason why I try to make make
- 2:59:38predictions is like I think that we as
- 2:59:40humans we have the capacity to control
- 2:59:43our own fate for our own analysis. So
- 2:59:46what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to
- 2:59:50teach people how to think for themselves
- 2:59:52and to validate my uh model is I make
- 2:59:56predictions. Okay. So how do you know if
- 2:59:58my analysis is correct? Well, if my
- 3:00:00prediction turn up to correct. So, um,
- 3:00:04you know, I blew up because of the Iran
- 3:00:06war. So, if you go back two years, okay,
- 3:00:09um, when I was making these predictions,
- 3:00:11everyone on online would call me crazy
- 3:00:13for saying that the United States would
- 3:00:15attack Iran because they'll be like, why
- 3:00:17would we do that? That's that that's
- 3:00:18insane. But it happened and, you know,
- 3:00:20that's why um, I blew up online. But
- 3:00:22just because I became popular online
- 3:00:24doesn't mean I'm I'm going sit back and
- 3:00:26just, you know, make money. What my my
- 3:00:28mission is to educate people. So now I'm
- 3:00:31making new predictions and I'm
- 3:00:32presenting um but but it's all based on
- 3:00:35my game theory uh model of of of the
- 3:00:39world. And that's what I'm trying to do.
- 3:00:40I'm trying to teach people. You don't
- 3:00:42have to like listen to what I say. Um if
- 3:00:45you listen to to what I say, what what I
- 3:00:47hope you you're doing is you're
- 3:00:49listening carefully as to how I'm making
- 3:00:51my analysis. But that's actually more
- 3:00:53more important than my predictions. And
- 3:00:55and what you also
- 3:00:57>> find uh is like I'm willing to admit
- 3:00:59when I'm wrong and then go back and
- 3:01:01analyze my model and figure out where
- 3:01:03where I went went wrong. Okay, so that
- 3:01:05that that's my memory response. Okay,
- 3:01:07guys. Uh it's been great, but it's way
- 3:01:09past it's it's past 4:00 and um I I need
- 3:01:13to look look after my my kid. Okay, so
- 3:01:15I'll see you guys next time. Thank
- 3:01:16Thanks for coming.
- 3:01:18>> Thank you so much.
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