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0:01hi how you
0:11doing I assume you want these hand CS
0:13off that would be nice I'd like to use
0:15the restro if I may I also would like to
0:18GL and drink of water quite
0:21thirsty that's
0:23possible anything is
0:28possible this is Ross with the
0:46FBI these aren't my cuffs bear with
0:51me okay all right let's go make sure you
0:55can use the facility start come on
1:00follow me je
1:04K on have a
1:21seat what's your last
1:24name Isaiah how do you spell Isaiah i s
1:28a i a h
1:30your first name
1:33Emmanuel how do you spell it I m m
1:38n u l your middle name David d a v i d
1:45what's your
1:47birthday
1:5110853 what's your
1:53address my home is heaven that's the
1:56only address I can give you
2:00okay
2:02well not to be too obvious about it but
2:05we've been looking for Elizabeth Smart
2:07for some nine months and she's with
2:11you and we're curious as to how that all
2:14came about but as far as we're concerned
2:17it's a crime I'm going to be up front
2:19with you right off the bat We Believe
2:20You' committed a crime and you have
2:23certain rights we have to advise you
2:24before we talk to you okay you have the
2:28right to remain silent you understand
2:30that anything you say can will be used
2:33against you in a court of law you
2:35understand that you have the right to
2:37have to talk to a lawyer and have him
2:39present with you while you're being
2:40questioned do you understand
2:42that if you cannot afford to hire a
2:44lawyer one will be appointed to
2:46represent you before any questioning if
2:48you wish do you understand that you can
2:51decide at any time to exercise these
2:53rights and not answer any questions or
2:54make any statements you understand
2:57that okay you understand each of these
2:59rights I just explained having your
3:01rights in mind we talk to us and answer
3:03our
3:05questions you prefer to be called
3:07man
3:09yes hey Emanuel tell us about how you
3:13came to have Elizabeth Smart with
3:15you you have in your possession the book
3:18of Emanuel do Isaiah we don't actually
3:22where where is that it's with it's with
3:24my things with your property that's
3:26right okay the book of what Emanuel D
3:29Isaiah
3:33okay all right go ahead that tells who I
3:36am and what I'm
3:43about the Lord God
3:46Almighty God through
3:49you yes through
3:52me and what's in that book that would
3:54cause you to have Elizabeth Sor with you
3:57read the book well I will but
4:00how would she how did she come to be in
4:02your
4:03custody by the power of God by the power
4:06of almighty God and how did God lead her
4:08to
4:22you he worth by the power of the Holy
4:25Ghost he upon her heart that she knew
4:29and I was the Lord's true
4:31servant so you converted her to your W I
4:34didn't convert her to anything the Holy
4:36Ghost converts the Holy Spirit converts
4:39the Holy Ghost converted her the spirit
4:41of God she was converted by the spirit
4:42of God and why was she converted to be
4:45with
4:48you when you read the book you'll
4:51understand okay well you have lived in
4:55what we would call the secular world
4:57right yes you did go by the name of
4:59Brian David Mitchell did you
5:03not to ask me what I
5:06was who I
5:08am it's like that to ask me if I'm
5:11someone other than who I am you see to
5:13place me in a in a position where I am
5:17not mhm in other words I've forsaken the
5:20world and
5:22all of the world M and I'm a new
5:25creature in Christ and the Lord and it's
5:29his IM to ask me or to answer such a
5:33question because it it's it's it's
5:35absolutely IM
5:37immaterial okay well it's not immaterial
5:39to us so please bear with us and I
5:41understand it's it's I know it's not
5:43immaterial to you because this is how
5:45you work in the world but if you were to
5:48take as the savior of the
5:50world who he was you wouldn't say I'm
5:53the son of Joseph and Mary born in
5:54Nazareth he would not mhm there's no
5:57recorded incident where he is found SA
5:59that he would say my father has sent
6:02me I came to do the will of the father
6:05but you're not Jesus Christ Jesus Christ
6:08but I you are Prophet I I his servant
6:11you're his servant I'm the Lord's
6:13servant and he had called
6:15me and he's called me out of the world
6:19and so I have no part in the world so I
6:20have no part in those questions or
6:24answers that you're seeking about
6:26anything other than who I am now okay
6:29the SC that was with you what did you
6:30call her her name is sh sh J how do you
6:34spell that s h e r e a
6:38r s h e r s h e a r
6:43Shear
6:45J J is j j a h u b j h u b j how old is
6:56she
7:02she heard once again that that question
7:07is very relevant how old is
7:09she she's 18 what would Le do you
7:12believe she's 18 because the Lord has
7:15said she she is such the Lord God
7:17Almighty told you that she's 18 years
7:23old that's a yes or no question yes yes
7:27okay did you marry but you say you say
7:3018 you say
7:3318 I'm not that's not who I am Emanuel
7:36listen did you marry
7:39her I didn't marry her but she seal to
7:42me as my wife yeah she sealed to you as
7:44your wife have you had sexual
7:45intercourse with
7:47her those are very personal private
7:50questions it's a very relevant question
7:52did you have sex with her yes or no you
7:54are you you you told me I could have an
7:57attorney pres I'm my I am my attorney
8:00you are your own attorney presently I am
8:03okay okay presently I am I'm defending
8:06myself am I not question can be used
8:08against me correct that's correct they
8:10can be
8:16okay well let's just cover the basics
8:18okay okay did you take sherard Jesu sh J
8:25Esther Isaiah is her name sh J Esther
8:28Isaiah I'm sorry I just can't pronounce
8:30that I'm just going to call her
8:31Elizabeth
8:33okay eser Isaiah eser Esther I'll call
8:37her Esther did you take Esther out of
8:39her
8:45house the Lord God delivered her into us
8:49and how did the Lord God deliver her to
8:51you was that on the street somewhere was
8:54it a the shelter did the Lord God sneak
8:56into her bedroom and take her out of her
8:58room in the middle of the night and
8:58deliver her to to
9:00you I mean this is this is I understand
9:03you know you're trying to this isn't
9:06making much sense to the two of us right
9:08so what I was hoping is maybe you could
9:10explain it in a way that we can
9:12understand it well you're you're you're
9:13you want answers that you can use
9:15against me you know you do well not only
9:17that but understand this you and you say
9:19you want to know the truth true we do
9:22okay but the truth will set us Set You
9:24Free as it will set all men free I mean
9:28and and the when Jesus Christ was
9:30questioned his answers didn't please
9:32them either they were very angry with
9:34you excuse me you were once seld yes you
9:38consider Joseph Smith to be a true
9:39prophet of God Joseph Smith is a true
9:41prophet of God and he wrote the 13
9:43articles of Faith yes he did what was
9:45the 13th Article of Faith sir we believe
9:48in being subject to the laws of the land
9:50is that not what the 13th Article of
9:52Faith says yes it is then all we want to
9:54know is if you've been faithful to your
9:56own beliefs have you been faithful to
9:58the laws of the land
10:00what was Jesus Christ accused of I'm not
10:02talking about Jesus I'm talking about
10:04you I have been absolutely faithful to
10:07the righteous laws of this land amen I
10:10have okay because all all righteous laws
10:13flow from God but not all laws of
10:15righteous and not all laws come from God
10:18and the Constitution of the United
10:21States was founded on righteous
10:24principles but when you read the book of
10:26Emanuel D Isaiah you'll come to
10:28understand that this nation has become
10:29the most corrupt and Evil Nation on the
10:31face of the Earth why because they've
10:33been given great light truth and
10:34knowledge and they've perverted the
10:36right ways of the Lord and they're
10:38filled with great idolatry and
10:39wickedness and those who have greater
10:40truth have greater evil there's greater
10:43goodness with greater truth possible but
10:45there's also greater evil because when
10:47you have greater truth you can put on
10:49all the appearances of righteousness and
10:51pervert the right ways of the Lord and
10:53this is what this land this country has
10:54done because they've had great blessings
10:56great light truth and knowledge even
10:58coming down from God through you know a
11:01Divine Constitution and and uh and
11:05Christians coming here for Religious
11:07Freedom and well let's get back to
11:09Elizabeth Smart yeah because this is
11:10this is this sounds more like a
11:12political debate than not political
11:14there's nothing polit there's nothing
11:16unpolitical well let me let me just let
11:18me just put this right on the table
11:19nothing there's nothing unpolitical so
11:21far I have no idea what you're talking
11:23about you I maybe maybe it's because I
11:26grew up outside of Utah and I'm not
11:28familiar with all this you know
11:29religious stuff but you need to bring it
11:32down to a level so that I can understand
11:34it cuz this stuff you're talking about
11:35you know and how it relates to uh
11:38Elizabeth and how she ended up being
11:40taken from her home and let me just say
11:42this for the past nine months that
11:44family has gone
11:46through hell I understand you do
11:49understand that I understand that very
11:51much I mean their whole family has been
11:53torn apart and I can tell you that since
11:55since the day that she's been taken both
11:58cord myself and hundreds of other law
12:01enforcement officers have been spending
12:03countless hours upon hours trying to
12:05find this girl and the family I mean
12:09they wake up during the middle of the
12:10night and their kid is gone and they
12:11have no they have no idea where she went
12:14they think she's dead we expected to
12:17find a
12:18corpse and so your explanation so far as
12:21her as as far
12:23as God delivering that God delivering
12:26her to you makes no sense to me because
12:28it doesn't match up with
12:30if she if she how how did how was when
12:34the children of Israel were led into the
12:35promised land let's keep it out of the
12:37Bible and pres there's no other way I
12:39can explain it I'm sorry all right well
12:41if you don't don't mind me if when you
12:43start to explain it makes no sense if I
12:45just cut into it okay well let me say
12:47you just shared with me how her family
12:49suffered right but when God's children
12:53become idolatrous and wicked they've
12:55suffered many things the whole history
12:56of mankind the scriptures is great
12:58suffering mhm they've become idolatrous
13:00and wicked they've been taken into
13:02captivity they've been torn apart
13:04they've been slain many things have
13:06happened to the Lord's children when
13:07they've been disobedient time to bring
13:09it in for a landing talking Bible stff
13:11again here it comes in for a landing
13:12when the children of Israel went in the
13:14promised land they destroyed many many
13:16peoples and in many cases they took the
13:19daughters captive and just destroyed all
13:21the men women and children except the
13:23daughters who were virgins all the all
13:25the boys were destroyed all the men and
13:26women were destroyed and the only thing
13:28they took care Ed were the Virgin
13:29daughters that was the children of
13:31Israel when they went in the promised
13:32land some cities they did the Lord
13:34command them to destroy completely so
13:36where was your promised land located
13:39well the whole earth is the promised
13:40land for all of us when the Lord when
13:42the Lord when the Lord comes in great
13:43power and mighty glory and might he's
13:47going to to destroy all the wicked and
13:50lift up the poor the sick and The
13:51Afflicted The Humble followers of Christ
13:53Lift them up and they will inherit the
13:55earth this is according to the gospel
13:57and the scriptures and the teachings
13:59that's all right are you saying that
14:00because you are a prophet of God I never
14:02said I was a prophet of God I believe
14:04you did no I didn't I said I'm a servant
14:06of the Lord because the
14:09Lord Isaiah you're talking all over me
14:12here sir please relax uel Emmanuel relax
14:16are you saying because you're a servant
14:17of the Lord that God provided you with a
14:19virgin to be your bride is that what
14:20you're
14:23saying that's a yes or no question man I
14:27didn't say that you can draw your own
14:29conclusions you said you were talking
14:30about this her how family suffered and
14:32you couldn't understand you couldn't
14:34understand why your family would have to
14:36suffer I'm saying that the
14:39Lord's much suffering so can we draw
14:42that conclusion that because you're a
14:43servant of the
14:44Lord God owed you a virgin for a while
14:47absolutely not you're making your own
14:48conclusion I'm asking you if that's he
14:50asked he asked why did her family have
14:52to suffer and I'm telling you we're
14:54beyond that let me get on to another
14:57okay
14:59we've been talking to this girl and she
15:00said some really terrible things about
15:02you and I just want to ask you some very
15:04direct questions that don't
15:08deserve a answer from theology okay did
15:12you take this girl out of her house at
15:14my point yes or
15:17no I'm not going to answer that question
15:19and why
15:27not I just want to know why you don't
15:29want to
15:31answer question you know let me explain
15:34something to you okay
15:37okay uh you're
15:40not that far off okay we've been
15:43studying you now for a couple of weeks
15:45you've been arrested for DUI for some
15:48substance abuse way back in the 70s you
15:50arrested for burglary in San Diego last
15:52month and you gave a bad name you were
15:54stopped by the Sandy Police this
15:55afternoon and you and Wanda and
15:58Elizabeth all gave bad names obviously
16:00an attempt to evade the police you are
16:02much more StreetWise you were much more
16:04StreetWise than you were letting on to
16:05us now okay you have been around more
16:08I'm not letting on to anything else but
16:09what I am I think what you're doing here
16:12is you're thinking that you're going to
16:14lay some kind of insanity defense I'm
16:16not I'm not absolutely not absolutely
16:18not so you are saying I'm saying I'm
16:21saying to you that I am who I say I am
16:24Emanuel Davi Isaiah the servant of the
16:26Lord Brian David Mitchell I am the
16:28servant of the Lord and my name is
16:30Emanuel T Isaiah well guess what we're
16:33Servants of the Lord too only in a
16:35different track here's the deal do you
16:37know what you're under arrest here
16:39for you are under arrest for aggravated
16:42kidnapping because the girl told us that
16:44you took her against her will out of her
16:47house at Ninth point you were under
16:49arrest for aggravated sexual assault on
16:51a minor both of these charges carry life
16:55imprisonment you can be David Isaiah
16:58Emmanuel in prison for the rest of your
17:00life and it's very likely this is your
17:02opportunity now to tell us what happened
17:04and why you did what you did and instead
17:07you keep sending us off on tangents that
17:09have nothing to do with the matters and
17:10the questions at hand you are very
17:12likely to spend the rest of your life in
17:14prison now that might not be important
17:16to you as a servant of the Lord and you
17:18may think it's nothing but let me tell
17:19you you will never see Wanda again you
17:22will never see Elizabeth again you will
17:24never get out of prison you're talking
17:27about you're talking about I'm talking
17:29about your future Isaiah I'm talking
17:31about your future here and now would you
17:33please understand that God have power to
17:36deliver me do you understand that you
17:38don't have an insanity defense because
17:39you've obviously lied to conceal your
17:41identity from the police it it matter if
17:43not what you're saying and what you how
17:45good you think this case is against me
17:47it matter not God hath power to deliver
17:49me out of the hands of all of my enemies
17:51well your
17:54enemies the Lord said to Peter get thee
17:56behind me sat talking bible stuff again
17:58not every read it I pretended like I did
18:00when I was in gr school but I wasn't I
18:02was reading counter books you said you
18:03were serving the lord too you the Lord
18:05too that's right I can only answer you
18:07according to the words of the Lord all
18:09he said to Peter get thee behind
18:11me now what was Satan at that was Peter
18:13at that moment his
18:14enemy because we're all subject to
18:17deception we're all subject to to to
18:20follow the wrong spirit and to follow
18:23our own bring it for Landon man you're
18:25talking in circles you're talking this
18:26biblical stuff it makes no sense to
18:28anyone
18:29the 21st century Manel it doesn't I know
18:32it doesn't that's why great destructions
18:34are prophesied upon the whole man what
18:38your name I'm my name is Cordon cord I'm
18:40a Christian I'm a Lutheran I've read the
18:43Bible right I've studied the Bible
18:46M um I'm familiar with prophets of God
18:49MH I'm familiar with the great
18:53prophets Elisha Elijah
18:58I'm unaware of any Prophet that lied to
19:03conceal their
19:04identity
19:06Abraham he well I'm not going to get
19:08into that I'm unaware of any
19:11Prophet that took a girl out of her own
19:13house at knife point and forced her Mar
19:17and then had sex with
19:20her was Joshua a prophet yes he was okay
19:24then why did the children of Israel
19:25under the command of God go into the
19:26promised land and Destroy many cities
19:28and in some cases take the daughters if
19:31I recall my Old Testament the Lord
19:33actually commanded them to destroy
19:35everybody leave only the livestock is
19:37that not true no in some instances the
19:40daughters were preserved those who were
19:41virgins in what cities I'm unaware of
19:43that the Lord command them to go into
19:45Canaan and wipe everybody out yes but
19:47there were instances where they took the
19:49daughters and sometimes the animals and
19:51I'm asking what
19:53instance you know what you say you know
19:55your Old Testament you say you know your
19:57Old Testament so where is it
19:59it's in there you find it it's in there
20:02so you don't know it's in there so maybe
20:04you haven't studied the Bible as much as
20:06you said you have so maybe this is all
20:08just [ __ ] maybe this is all just
20:11about maybe this is all just about David
20:13Mitchell trying to get a young virgin
20:15for himself you know do you know
20:17what none of the those who Christ called
20:20to be apostles were were learned men
20:22they were fishermen they none of them
20:24were kidnappers either none of them
20:26raped little children none of them were
20:28to take a girl against her will out of
20:30the house none of them threaten to kill
20:31a little 9-year-old girl if she made any
20:33noise or
20:35uh whatever you know you know I don't
20:38hate you and he doesn't hate you either
20:40but we're going to go to the judge and
20:42ask for considerations on your bail
20:45because you got to realize that your
20:47life as you have known it is I I don't
20:51expect you to be I don't expect that
20:53you're going to get out of custody until
20:55the day you die okay your future depends
20:58upon this interview right here right now
21:01you remember do you remember that Peter
21:04was in prison and an angel came and the
21:06guard and open the prison door and let
21:08him out Isaiah no Angel's going to let
21:10you out of this room hun there's nobody
21:12coming for you you know what God will
21:14deliver me was Elizabeth the first kid
21:15you ever had sex with the Lord God me
21:19was Elizabeth the first child you ever
21:20had sex
21:22with you see you see Isaiah we've been
21:27doing some studying and talking to your
21:29ex-wife Debbie she says that you had
21:31some sort of sexual
21:34relationships she's lying absolutely
21:36lying are you sure she's lying she's
21:38absolutely lying what motivate what
21:40would motivate her to lie about
21:43you what would public do that because
21:45she's very she was very
21:47disturbed but there was absolutely
21:49nothing like that that ever took
21:52place absolutely
21:56sure well
22:11we've been talking to her too and she
22:13says that you're just not really quite
22:15your standard
22:16person she says there's things that are
22:18wrong with you okay yeah and and Christ
22:22was considered that there was much wrong
22:24with him you're not Christ no but I'm
22:27his servant and all of his apost
22:28Apostles and His prophets from the
22:30beginning of time Enoch was called a
22:32wild man in the desert what we're trying
22:35to all they're all considered to be
22:36crazy nuts all of them by the
22:40world no you're not but what he just
22:44said that she was telling you what he
22:46was telling you what said exactly so I
22:48responded to that by telling you that
22:50this is often
22:51what that's neither here nor there we're
22:53trying to find out what happened with
22:55Elizabeth where you were for nine months
22:57with her how many times you had sex with
22:59her if that was the only kid you ever
23:02had sex with besides Elizabeth how would
23:04happen that you know she gets taken out
23:07of her room during the middle of night
23:08those are things we're interested in
23:10that's it we want to be able to go to
23:12Elizabeth's family and offer an
23:14explanation as to how for the past N9
23:17months she's been kept away from her
23:19friends her family her parents her
23:22brothers and sisters who have been
23:25absolutely terrified and horrified by
23:27this whole thing
23:29and for probably some months have have
23:31thought that she's not even
23:34alive I mean we want to be able to have
23:36an explanation for them and I
23:40mean you have to feel for the family in
23:43this and kind of see where they're
23:44coming from and all this thing I mean
23:45they have gone through hell I have been
23:47to their house numerous occasions Cordon
23:49has talked to them on numerous occasions
23:51and I have I have great compassion and
23:53love for them well because they are the
23:56parents of my oh hesit you took their
23:59daughter out of their house at Ninth
24:00point and now you're not even denying it
24:02you're saying I did that I'm saying you
24:04did God you're saying I did that I'm
24:06saying that you did it I'm telling you
24:08that the Lord God Almighty delivered her
24:10to us and I'm asking how cuz I don't
24:12believe you I think you're lying your
24:13ass off B if you have I've never said
24:17I've never lied about anything all I've
24:19told you and you tell me the truth how
24:20did Elizabeth wind up with you tell me
24:22the truth right now by the power of God
24:24she was delivered to us and how did God
24:27deliver her to you
24:28by the power of God how did God get you
24:30into the
24:32house how did God get you into the house
24:35by the power of God she was delivered to
24:37us he levitated you into the house you
24:41know you're not right this is this isn't
24:45working Emanual well I'll start calling
24:47you Emanual when you start giving me
24:49answers to questions that I think are
24:50reasonable because right now God
24:52delivering her from the house is
24:53ridiculous I've tried to give you the
24:55honest truth no you haven't yes I have
24:57the absolutely the honest truth would be
24:59you telling me how you got her into your
25:00control and where you kept her for the
25:02past 9 months and what you've done with
25:04her for the past 9 months and not
25:06telling me stories about people going
25:08into the promised land and killing
25:10everybody except for the Virgin
25:11daughters I don't want to hear that [ __ ]
25:13you know I'll say that for Sunday when I
25:14go to church you know what you're
25:15ashamed down deep inside you know what
25:17you did was wrong and you're ashamed
25:19that's why you won't tell us that's why
25:21you prophets do not hide what their
25:24actions they stand up for them and they
25:26answer for them if God told you to do
25:27this then you better tell us and they
25:29take responsibility for it too this is
25:31[ __ ] you're saying that I can't use
25:33the scriptures and yet both of you do
25:35I'm telling us that you're lying to us
25:37let me ask you this and you're ashamed
25:38of your actions and you will not explain
25:40your actions to us scures hey and Christ
25:43did not did Christ run from the cops did
25:46he give false names when he was arrested
25:48and CR the police many times really
25:50really when did he ever give a bad name
25:52to the police like you did today when
25:54did he ever do
25:56that Christ never did that
25:58he did didn't he kind of hand himself
26:00over are you telling me that our savior
26:02lied to the police did not he did not he
26:04never he never he did not in many
26:07instances he did not give them what they
26:09were after how many times did Christ get
26:11pulled over on a
26:12DUI or get break into someone else's
26:15house no it was no there are prophets
26:16who have drunk and been drunk how many
26:18times has Christ gone into a little
26:19girl's house and taken her out of her
26:21home during a middle of night against
26:22your
26:23will one have you ever known Christ to
26:25pick up a weapon okay is Christ the god
26:28is he God I according to my religion he
26:31is all right then all the things he
26:32commanded his people to do in the Bible
26:34Christ did did he command anyone to
26:38abduct a little girl and have sex with
26:39her I don't believe my New Testament
26:42says anything about that I think this is
26:44all about About Emanuel I think it's all
26:47about it's all about you and what you
26:49want you want your virgin you want to
26:52have a young girl to have sex with I
26:53know what you're going to accuse me even
26:55if you have to I know what you're going
26:56to accuse me with you want to accuse
26:58accuse me of being some diabolical evil
27:01criminal and and I am the servant of the
27:03Lord no and I've only done I've only
27:05done what I've been commanded to do by
27:07whom by the Lord Jesus so God commanded
27:09you to go into uh the smart home and
27:11take her I the only thing that that I'm
27:14saying to you that God commanded me to
27:16do was was was to accept her as my wife
27:20okay and so when he commanded you to
27:22accept her what did you do I accepted
27:24her how did you accept her I received
27:25her what did you how did you receive her
27:28in the bonds of marriage in the bonds of
27:29marriage okay well how did you get to
27:31that point you have to be able to you
27:32know get her somehow right can't marry
27:35someone without the being
27:37present she was delivered in in unto us
27:41by whom by God so by the Lord God God I
27:45remember seeing the the the you know
27:48description of the guy that went into
27:50the bedroom and I don't think it was
27:53anything close to you know pretty much
27:57close to you
28:01even the voice I me Mary Katherine she
28:04she recognized the voice it just took
28:06her a while to figure out who it was
28:08because she'd heard it before because
28:09you'd done work at the smart
28:13home so it wasn't God that went in
28:18there it was God that went in there
28:21through
28:24you God works through many ways and
28:26means well you're not in your head
28:28God through you I did not acknowledge
28:30that I say God not in your head I was
28:32not you're not in your head I say God
28:35Ran you're not in your head God works
28:36through with many ways and means so
28:39Brian me excuse me Emanuel we talked to
28:43the girl okay she says it was you she
28:46said that you appeared in her bedroom on
28:48June the 4th held a knife to her throat
28:51took her out of the
28:53house and raped her if she's saying that
28:55why are you asking me because you want
28:57to know why because there's a
28:5915-year-old girl who for the past 10
29:00months or 9 months has been completely
29:04horrified and the last thing you want to
29:06have to do is have to put her through
29:08all that pain Again by constantly asking
29:10her questions and have her relive it I I
29:13I used to work with kids I worked with
29:14kids who were that were horribly abused
29:17sexually physically I understand but I
29:20don't think you do okay because they
29:22asked them to relive that hang on a
29:24second I'm talking to relive what she's
29:26had she's had a glorious experience
29:28glorious experience with you are you
29:30that are you are you telling me that for
29:33the past n months that she's been with
29:34you that it's been glorious it's been
29:36are we've been had many trial all of us
29:39have had many trials and tribulations
29:41can you explain some of them to me we've
29:43all had many trial difficult trials and
29:45tribulations but we've seen God's power
29:47of Deliverance to protect provide and
29:49deliver mightily and for example and and
29:52she knows she knows who I am she knows
29:54I'm the servant of the Lord and she yes
29:56she did she does so give me some
29:59examples of some of these trials you
30:00went through over the past N9 months
30:01with
30:02Elizabeth and with
30:05Wanda do you call her Wanda or does she
30:07have another name too J eser Isaiah and
30:11heah El Isaiah I can't even pronounce
30:14that one wand is easier for me and let
30:15me tell you something else I'm not going
30:17to I'm not going to refer to her other
30:19than anything that because I can't even
30:20say she Jaan is that right is that good
30:23all
30:24right but tell us about some of the
30:27trials the past N9 months that you've
30:29had her tell us about some of the
30:31tribulations we have great opposition in
30:33the world well explain it I still give
30:35me some specific examples tell me about
30:36a time about you know how you got into
30:38the house took her out without getting
30:39caught it's no different it's no
30:41different than than all of the Lord's
30:43followers and Servants of H from time
30:46the beginning of time how does God tell
30:47you to get into the house great
30:48opposition great opposition well let's
30:51just start let's just start with some
30:53Basics how do you support
30:56yourselves it's not a tri question it's
30:58just conversation it's not we're we
31:00don't support ourselves the Lord God
31:01Almighty supports us and sustains Us in
31:04other words you handh handle and the
31:05Lord leads people to lay a dollar or two
31:07in your palm now and then is that right
31:10the Lord provides for us he sustains us
31:13how about recycling aluminum cans in San
31:18Diego the Lord mightily sustains us and
31:21provis for us so I take it through that
31:24answer that you guys were recycling
31:26aluminum cans in s that's accusation and
31:28you're you're nothing against the law of
31:30doing it that's your accusation it's not
31:32an accusation there's no crime behind
31:34Rec but that's your accusation no crime
31:37with really pain the Lord provides for
31:39us
31:40mly so where did he provide to you works
31:44it upon the hearts of his humble
31:45followers to give up their
31:49substance in every instance he works it
31:51upon the hearts of his humble followers
31:53to give it their
31:55substance that's how we're provided for
32:02well you
32:05know like I said I think that you've
32:09been around you've been arrested a
32:10couple of
32:11times I think you're trying to lay the
32:14ground Joseph Smith was arrested almost
32:1650 times yes he
32:18was well you're kind of laying the
32:20ground workor for the State Mental
32:21Hospital was opposed to prison and do
32:23you know it would have worked except for
32:24one thing you've been contacted by the
32:27police several times and each time you
32:28lied about who you were who Elizabeth
32:31was that gives more than ample evidence
32:35that you had you think I want you think
32:37I want to go to a mental hospital you
32:39think that's what I want cuz otherwise
32:41you're going to go to prison and die
32:42there I don't I a mental hospital to me
32:46is is the worst thing to have happened
32:49do I think that you have any compassion
32:50for that family right now mental
32:52hospital to me would be a worst thing to
32:54have happen to me in prison well I don't
32:58my mind but the Lord but I will I'm
32:59willing to suffer whatever the Lord God
33:01will if if neither neither one of those
33:05things will do without great suffering
33:07for me for for heah for sh J all of
33:12these things Elizabeth sh jip all of us
33:14are going to suffer greatly through
33:15through this because we've been taken
33:17and we've been separated as a family
33:18what does she JP mean a Remnant will
33:22return a Remnant where's that from what
33:24kind of word that's Isaiah Isaiah from
33:26Isaiah it means a remnant will return a
33:29return where the remnant of the Lord's
33:31children will return unto him a Remnant
33:33means that that many that's just an
33:36interesting name for a kid that's been
33:37kidnapped that's all I'm thinking Shear
33:39jaup The Remnant will
33:41return so that's an interesting name for
33:43a 15-year-old girl who was kidnapped
33:45from night she's I'm for a sign and a
33:47portent to the world and so she say what
33:49she is for a sign an a portent to the
33:52world her her be her being delivered out
33:55of the
33:56world was a sign to the world that the
33:59Lord is making bear his holy arm in the
34:00eyes of all
34:02Nations and it and it and it did stir
34:04the whole world I'm in ways that I never
34:07thought or dreamed that it would because
34:08it's God's work and not mine so that
34:10must be a pretty big Power Trip then to
34:11know that you had some part it's very
34:13humbling it's very it's very humbling
34:16because I'm nothing I'm at and it's it's
34:18a testimony you created all this I
34:20didn't create anything this is aest this
34:22is a testimony it's God's hand not mine
34:25this is a testimony to me that God is
34:28all powerful and Almighty I'm nothing
34:30I'm nothing I all I can do is obey his
34:32spir spirit and be obedient unto the to
34:35to what he asked me to do and then be
34:38and then and then be amazed God tell you
34:41to have sex with
34:43her let's back that's a really rude
34:46question let's back that one up did God
34:48tell you to take this girl for your
34:50wife he did he did he did and where did
34:53he manifest that to you by his holy
34:56spirit when did he man
35:03that would that be the day that you
35:05worked on the smart
35:12house today is immaterial no it's not it
35:15is immaterial it is
35:17immaterial what's important is that he
35:20did command me and he did deliver her
35:23out of the world and out of Babylon but
35:25we're very curious as to when he
35:28made this apparent to you through the
35:30holy spirit that you were to take Esther
35:32to be your wife it's TR that's nothing
35:34to be re receive her as my wife that's
35:36certainly nothing to be ashamed of he
35:37delivered her out of the
35:39world and commanded that I receive her
35:42as my wife and when did he make that
35:46commandment was it in the spring the
35:49fall that the date matter not it matters
35:52to me well I don't know the date I can't
35:53give you a date I think you're being
35:55really rude by not answering such a
35:56simple question it's not even a trick
35:58question it's not designed to entrap you
36:00in you know what every single one of
36:02your questions are trick questions every
36:04single one of your questions are meant
36:05to attract me and you know and you're
36:07lying okay here's a question here's a
36:09question that's very direct you just you
36:10feel very justified in your lies because
36:13you you think you're doing a good thing
36:16but yet when you and you accuse me of
36:18lying because I feel directed in what
36:20I'm doing and because you feel directed
36:21in what you're doing you feel justified
36:23in lying to me and deceiving
36:25Mees deceiving yes you are what have I
36:28like
36:30do we've asked you pretty direct
36:32questions yes I know you have but then
36:34you come back and you say things like
36:36well never mind I'm not going to I don't
36:38want to accuse and blame you either I'm
36:39just saying you know what I'm talking
36:41you know exactly you're a very
36:42interesting person to me because I've
36:44been talking to your mom to your brother
36:47Tim to your daughter to your son Travis
36:51I've been talking to a lot of people
36:53about you and you know and all the
36:54people that I've ever met in 25 years of
36:56police were you were the only person
36:59that ever actually read the Bible and
37:01then sold all of his worldly possessions
37:03and gave the money to the poor you're
37:05actually the only guy that I have ever
37:06met that has done
37:08that you're the only one you don't think
37:12I find that
37:13fascinating I think now you've changed
37:15your tactics to use flattery because a
37:18while ago you said that I was I was
37:20completely false and that and that I'm
37:22and tried to accuse me of being anything
37:24but a true servant of the Lord or doing
37:27anything but being obedient to the Lord
37:29but rather just someone who was just out
37:32to
37:33satisfy whatever caral was carnal lust
37:36you're accusing me of just wanting to
37:37satisfy carnal lust well that's because
37:40being and being and just being this is
37:42what you this is what you accus me and
37:43now that tactic hasn't worked so now
37:45you're going to use flattery and say oh
37:46you're the only me done this hear me out
37:49you got to understand you do understand
37:51that you are under arrest I do and you
37:53are not free to leave I do and that
37:55potentially these charges could keep you
37:57in custody for the rest of your natural
38:00life it matter not it doesn't matter it
38:02matter not okay well those as long as
38:05I'm being obedient to the Lord
38:07whatsoever I suffer for him it matter
38:09not okay you have chosen the prison
38:12prison or death prison or death it
38:14matter not I know that you're very the
38:16Apostle Paul spent much of his life in
38:18prison you're very committed okay you're
38:21obviously very committed you obviously
38:24strongly believe that the Holy Spirit
38:25has moved you to do the
38:28things like taking
38:30Elizabeth and God delivered her to you
38:32to be your wife we've also covered
38:35things we've covered things about how
38:36Jesus Christ does not lie the prophets
38:39of God do not lie and they're proud to
38:41stand up for their actions and answer
38:43questions you are here accused of
38:46aggravated kidnapping and aggravated
38:48sexual assault and we are here Isaiah we
38:50are here to listen to your story say
38:52you're saying that they don't lie no
38:55don't get off don't get off on that t
38:57tent right now you hear me out we are
38:59here to listen to your story and your
39:01explanation and you keep sending us off
39:03to the ozone we ask simple direct
39:05questions the question is did you enter
39:08Elizabeth Smart's house and make simple
39:11direct accusations and we want a simple
39:13direct denial or
39:15admittance that's it you know the jury
39:18is going to listen to these proceedings
39:19we're being recorded right now the
39:22jury's going to listen and they're going
39:23to say to themselves if he had nothing
39:25to hide and if he he really believed he
39:27was a prophet why wouldn't he answer the
39:29most basic and simple of questions okay
39:31why didn't Jesus we're not talking about
39:34Jesus you are not Jesus we're talking
39:36about Emanuel I I'm his servant and I
39:38pattern my life after him Jesus didn't
39:41take any kids out of their homes to the
39:43God he is the god of the Old Testament
39:45uh excuse me Jesus didn't take a wife he
39:47is the god that's what you say that's
39:50what I say that's what the scriptures
39:51say the Bible says no are you telling me
39:55Jesus you if you know Mormon theology ol
39:58exaltation is is is is having is is the
40:01highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom
40:03is having more than one wife and no one
40:05and this is what the Prophet Joseph
40:07Smith taught very clearly and it's
40:08throughout the doctrines of the church
40:10that no man can receive the highest
40:12degree of the Celestial Kingdom except
40:14he received the law of of celestial
40:17marriage which is which is a plurality
40:19of wives therefore Christ had to have
40:21more than one had to have a wife and
40:23more than one wife it's not contemporary
40:26theology it's it's very contemporary
40:29it's it's throughout the church never
40:31heard that it's throughout it's
40:33throughout the Mormon church I believe
40:35that all marriages had to be consensual
40:37is that not true I and it was consensual
40:40did Christ take any it was consens wives
40:42by holding a knife to their throat
40:43during the middle night in the throat in
40:46the middle of the night with threats
40:47against her family was cons Christ is
40:49God of the Old Testament and see you won
40:50will let don't want to let me talk about
40:52the scriptures but then you come right
40:54back with them you don't want to talk
40:55about the SCP scriptures
40:58you come right back at me we ask you a
41:00question like how did you get in the
41:02Smart House God delivered him to me I
41:04can't answer you any I can't answer you
41:06any other way than what the Lord God
41:08Almighty puts into my heart to say
41:09that's all I can do so he's telling you
41:11to play games with us he's telling me to
41:14to give you the truth well the truth
41:15would be when we ask a question like
41:18where have you been for the past nine
41:19months with Elizabeth Smart well I've
41:21been to this Canyon where I lived in
41:24this camp or I went to San Diego that I
41:27can answer that truth I can answer that
41:29very truthfully to say that the Lord
41:32that she's been with us and that the
41:35Lord God Almighty has been with us mly
41:37where have you been with her throughout
41:40the land can you give us like be more
41:44specific we the Lord takes us from place
41:47to place where has the Lord taken you so
41:49far in the past nine months with her and
41:51I mean when I say where I don't need a
41:53general answer I mean I'm looking for
41:54something you know like the name of a
41:56city or a state or you know location or
42:00you know what Canyon I can only answer I
42:02can only answer according to what the
42:03Lord God Almighty puts into my heart to
42:05say and that's and that's being truthful
42:08that's being truthful that he's taken us
42:10Po Girl he's taken us with a mighty hand
42:12throughout was it was it the Lord God
42:16Almighty that had to tether Elizabeth in
42:18the camp to keep her from running away
42:20was that the Lord's idea or is that your
42:22idea or is that something that Christ
42:24does when he wants to take a life you
42:26have to tie your wife to a tether to
42:29keep her there is that your idea or was
42:32that the holy
42:36spirit's the whole world is in bonds and
42:39chains the bonds and chains of iniquity
42:41great
42:44wickedness
42:46to whole world the whole world is in the
42:48bonds of chains idolatry and great
42:50wickedness you had to process that
42:52question it's only it's only you know
42:54what it is it's taking resp for it's
42:58taking time to listen to God it's you
43:01trying trying to evade the question as
43:04what it is it's the Lord God is giving
43:05the Lord the Lord tell you did the Lord
43:07tell you to tire up the campsite it's
43:09giving the Lord God Almighty time to
43:11speak to us to take to pause and let him
43:14speak did the is did the Lord tell you
43:16to tire up in the camp the whole world
43:18the whole world is in the bonds and CH
43:20Idol and great wickedness this is the
43:23reality and because of that great the
43:25reality of it is is that for the
43:29great destructions are coming upon the
43:30Earth this is worse than Christmas Mass
43:33great destructions are coming upon the
43:34Earth great destructions are be coming
43:36upon you you know this is a obviously
43:39word solid defense mechanism that you
43:41throw up whenever the questions get
43:42really really tough okay you just start
43:46wandering on about the scriptures and
43:48stuff but it's obvious to me you talk
43:49about tactics and
43:51interrogation when the questions get too
43:53tough and uncomfortable you just start
43:55wandering off I've never w I've stuck
43:57right straight straight you take
43:59Elizabeth Smart out of her house at
44:01night Point straight As the gate and
44:03narrow is the way and I have stayed on
44:04that straight and narrow path and you
44:06talk about wandering you guys are
44:07wandering all over the place trying
44:09everything and anything to to to to get
44:12me to say something false to say
44:16something false and I will only speak
44:19the
44:20truth all right only speak the truth do
44:23you take a little smart out of her house
44:24at KN Point your accusations are false
44:28then you did not and you are denying
44:30teach in the teachings of uni who's a
44:33great scholar in the church he says that
44:35Satan will always accuse with the truth
44:37you know what I think I think you're
44:38getting awfully uncomfortable now
44:40because you keep talking over the top of
44:41this this is getting a little too
44:43intense for isn't it Emanuel we're
44:45getting to the real hard questions and
44:47you keep retreating into your still and
44:49your diet tribe did you take Elizabeth
44:51out of the house at Ninth Point yes or
44:53no what did Christ do he didn't take
44:55Elizabeth out of the house at Ninth
44:56point he didn't marry women by holding
44:58knives to the throats he didn't have sex
45:00with 15-year-old girls he didn't tether
45:02girls to a campsite to keep them from
45:04running away he didn't lie to police
45:07when they asked him who he
45:08was it's it's closing in he didn't break
45:11into people's houses and he wasn't a
45:13drunk driver I'm afraid that you know
45:15little of of who Christ is and what he
45:16did because he is God and he's done talk
45:19about Christ we're talking Brian David
45:22Mitchell AKA Emanuel David Isaiah his
45:25true servants
45:27have done and do many things and still
45:29do many things that the world will will
45:32kill them for um I hate I think we just
45:36have to get to the core of the problem
45:37here and the core of the problem is is
45:41Isaiah imprison them no listen to me
45:43okay we're getting to the real core of
45:45the problem is is you and the real core
45:49is you are not a prophet and you are not
45:53a servant of Jesus Christ you are indeed
45:56Bri David Mitchell and you have done a
45:59really terrible terrible thing that you
46:03need to get to you have done something
46:05awful I'll tell you the both of you you
46:08talk about shame the great shame that
46:10will be upon you both hey for treat for
46:13for for talking the way this way to the
46:16Lord servant accusing accusing accusing
46:19me in this way you are not the Lord not
46:21the Lord servant and I don't feel
46:23shameful in saying it I don't have I
46:25don't have I don't feel any shame in
46:26saying I say you will you know what you
46:29will reap great shame and If Heaven's
46:31filled with people like you I'd be more
46:33comfortable in Hell your story is
46:34[ __ ] you took that 15-year-old girl
46:36out of her room at KN Point HED her up
46:38into a canyon you raped her you kept her
46:41tied up at the campsite you traveled
46:43around the country with her for nine
46:44months telling her that her name was
46:46some [ __ ] sheer job Esther Isaiah
46:49crap saying that she was your wife
46:51sealed unto God and then when you caught
46:53for it oh my God then all of a sudden
46:55it's she's been delivered to you by
46:57Christ and and and then they nashed
46:59their teeth on him on Christ and their
47:01anger and their accusation against the
47:02Lord they Nash their teeth on you are
47:05not of Jesus you're not the servant of
47:08Jesus you are not Jesus's servants do
47:10not take little girls out of their house
47:13you're a child and have sex with them
47:15let's face it you are Brian David
47:17Mitchell and you are a child molester a
47:20criminal a criminal who has done
47:22criminal acts who cannot pass off his
47:25story by talking about
47:27Jesus you are a fraud you are a fraud
47:31sir you're a hypocrite you are a
47:33hypocrite and a fraud and this is
47:35[ __ ] you are not a servant of Jesus
47:39Christ and you need to get over
47:41that you can take that little simple
47:43smile off your face like you're some you
47:45know servant of the Lord [ __ ] and
47:48stuff it because we know the truth the
47:49truth is that you went into her bedroom
47:51during the middle of the night held a
47:53knife to her throat and here's another
47:54thing Christ probably never did I don't
47:56think he ever th threaten to kill
47:57children suddenly you're someone
47:59suddenly someone who never read the
48:00scriptures knows all about scures and
48:02the Lord you what I went to church
48:03enough times to know that I never heard
48:05any uh sermons from my from my priest
48:08saying that and then Jesus snuck into
48:10the bedroom at 2:00 in the morning and
48:12held life to her Thro that's [ __ ]
48:15most churches and and sermons and
48:17leaders seek for popularity for power
48:20for gain for popularity and success
48:22we're off the subject again we're off
48:24the subject again you're talking about
48:25the church we're talking about churches
48:27do Brian full [ __ ] you're talking about
48:30you gain po we're not talking I don't
48:32care about the church right now I want I
48:34want to be able to explain oh wait a
48:35minute I think we just hit a nerve there
48:37let's talk about lust of the flesh the
48:39lust of the flesh are all all of those
48:42things that you set your hearts upon
48:44other than Jesus Christ you know what my
48:45heart's not upon screwing a 14-year-old
48:47girl NE I've never wanted to have sex I
48:50never have either and my heart's not
48:52still on either you did I my heart is
48:54not I did not you did I did not did I
48:57did not did not what do what you just
48:59said I did not do a 14-year-old virgin
49:03to your campsite and you had sex with
49:06her against her will you went Wanda
49:09showed her how to do it and then you
49:10made her do it and you had entire up at
49:13the camp what you're accusing me of I'm
49:15accusing you look at me look at me in
49:17the eye I'm accusing you of being a
49:19child molester rapist and your
49:21accusation is false [ __ ] [ __ ]
49:23the truth say [ __ ] all you want
49:25accusation guess what but I can say that
49:27and I'm not I'm not going to feel any
49:29shame over it like you said I'm going to
49:30feel shame you're lifted up in the pride
49:32of your heart you know what I'm not
49:34going to feel any shame at all but
49:35you're going to feel great shame and
49:36great sorrow no I don't think so you
49:38know the sorrow I feel the sorrow I feel
49:39is for the smart family distru the
49:41sorrow I feel is for the smart family
49:43and a 14-year-old girl who was taken out
49:45of more comp I have more compassion for
49:48that family then prove it and tell us
49:49the truth don't give me this God
49:51[ __ ] I have more compassion for that
49:54family it tell us the TRU Isaiah tell us
49:57the truth I've told you tell us the
49:59truth no you you haven't told us
50:01anything if you want to show compassion
50:03for that family you can explain it this
50:06is me telling you that I think you're
50:07full of [ __ ] yeah and and what's that
50:10going to Le you know I think you're full
50:12of [ __ ] Brian listen hear me out you
50:15know what Jesus said about little
50:17children he said that it is better for a
50:21man to tie a millstone around his neck
50:25and jump in the lake and drown himself
50:27and that's why rather than harm one hair
50:29on that's why I feel so sorry for all of
50:32you that are doing this to your J has it
50:34doesn't matter doesn't matter what we do
50:36here what you're doing to her what
50:38you're do what you're what you're doing
50:39to her I really struck a nerve there
50:41didn't I what you're doing to
50:43her you have hared you have harmed a
50:46girl you have harmed a child you have
50:48gone against Jesus Christ's written
50:50orders you're harming her no we didn't
50:52have sex brought her home to her family
50:55you took a girl and you harmed her I
50:58saw to scripture I don't doubt but what
51:01she was crying why would she be crying
51:03she must be you know somewhat distraught
51:05after after past nine months of living
51:07with you Jesus Christ having having to
51:09have sex with you I mean how often do
51:11you
51:13shower I mean you've done a horrible
51:15thing and you're justifying it in your
51:17own mind by saying the Holy Spirit did
51:19it what the two of you were doing the
51:21scriptures say that you have sinned what
51:23you're doing what you are doing is sin
51:25and what you are doing sin and great sin
51:28I have been obedient unto God
51:31God I have been obedient to God almighty
51:34God told you to have sex with her you
51:35have you're trying to put words in my
51:37mouth did God tell you to have sex with
51:39your accusations against that's a simple
51:41question yes or no did God tell you to
51:42have sex with her I told you your
51:43accusations against I'm not accusing you
51:45I'm asking you a question your
51:46accusations are false it's a question
51:48did God tell you to have sex with her
51:49your questions are false did God tell
51:51you to have sex with her your questions
51:52are false is she the only child that
51:54God's ever told you to have sex with
51:57your questions are immaterial it's it's
51:59something sense give me an answer yes I
52:01never because I never said God told me
52:03to do any such thing and he never did oh
52:06wait a minute Sex God told you to take
52:09her is your wife you told us that just a
52:11little while ago exactly and that's all
52:12I told you so you decided to have sex
52:15with her I told you I told you told I
52:19told you that I was obedient unto the
52:21Lord God and look at us when he talked
52:22to us receiving her why you shutting
52:24your eyes when you talk to us I told you
52:26that I was obedient unto the Lord God
52:27Almighty in receiving her okay and to my
52:32as my wife so God didn't tell you to
52:33have sex with her you told you to
52:35receive her as her wife as your wife
52:38that's all I told you that God told me
52:39so then you took it upon yourself to
52:41have sex with
52:42her your accusations are false I'm I'm
52:46I'm asking your accusations so you've
52:47never had sex with him your accusations
52:49are false in the in in what you're
52:52accusing me of there's no truth so you
52:55have not had sex words and your words
52:57and what you're accusing me of there is
52:58no truth you know you're just so foolish
53:00yet you can't even look me in the eye
53:01when you talk to me look at me in the
53:02eye like a man when you tell me your
53:04lies okay you're you're not looking at
53:06him you're not looking at me did you
53:08have sex with Esther yes or no as your
53:12wife that God said was okay to do did
53:15you or did you not yes or no what are
53:17you how are you determining look me in
53:19the eye don't answer like Bill Clinton
53:21answered the question did you have sex
53:22with her you can't even look me in the
53:24eye now you're looking look look up here
53:26give
53:27question why why should I submit to your
53:30control over me well you know what
53:32Elizabeth had to submit to your control
53:34for month why why should I submit to
53:36your accusations why should Elizabeth
53:38submit to your control in your eyes are
53:40your accusations why should
53:42Elizabeth your contempt why Elizabeth to
53:45your control your ridicule your
53:47condemnation you're damn right we
53:49condemn guys who have sex with 15y old
53:51so I'm supposed and I'm supposed to look
53:52in your eyes and receive that that hate
53:55that condemnation you you know you know
53:57I've been looking into both of your eyes
53:59no you haven't I have oh yeah now when
54:01you're Tom now you are okay so let me
54:03ask you this why should I submit to your
54:04control and look in your eyes when you
54:06why should Elizabeth submit to your
54:07control why Elizabeth submit to your
54:10control just look you want to talk about
54:12control why should Elizabeth submit to
54:14your control why should she leave her
54:16house I never control her you never had
54:18a seor yes or no what was your name
54:20again Parks question you have sex with
54:23Elizabeth all I have done has been out
54:25of obedience to the Lord God Almighty so
54:28did you have sex with her yes or no
54:30according to your question no I did not
54:32you did not she says that you did I did
54:35not your your question is false I you
54:37need to defend yourself you did not have
54:40sex with Esther look me in the eye I'm
54:42looking Parks I'm looking you in the eye
54:44and I say to your question no you did
54:46not have sex I say I say to your
54:48question no good now we're finally
54:51getting somewhere did you enter Ed
54:54Smart's house on June the 4th yes or no
54:57look me in the eye don't go away even if
55:00it's if you want to deny it that's okay
55:01we want your story but you keep closing
55:03your eyes and refusing to answer did you
55:05enter at Smart's house your question yes
55:07or no yes or no simple look me in the
55:09eye did you or did you not I wanted
55:11denial or I wanted admission either one
55:13is fine with me did you enter Ed Smart's
55:15house on June the 4th in the night yes
55:18or no
55:19Brian my name is Emanuel emuel DAV
55:22Isaiah open your eyes and look at me did
55:24you enter Ed Smart's house June the
55:26forth yes or
55:30no yes or
55:32no says yes or no question you know you
55:35want to answer yes or no if you want to
55:36stand for your actions as a prophet of
55:38God it's time to answer yes or no you
55:40don't respect me as such I do not no you
55:43do because you lie to me you won't even
55:45look me in the eye when you lie to me
55:46and I've never said that I was a prophet
55:48of God no you said you were a servant of
55:50the Lord I said I was a servant of the
55:51Lord so as a servant of the Lord did you
55:53enter Ed Smart's house on the night of
55:55June 4th
55:57and take Elizabeth from her bedroom at
55:58knin Point yes or yes or no you just
56:03want to answer the question and then we
56:05can move
56:07on what it's a yes or no answer yes or
56:13no thinking Brian you're not answering
56:16truthful answers don't need to be
56:18thought out ahead of time every looked
56:20down do you know what do you know what
56:22I've already answered that question and
56:24over you have not you've never once
56:26answered the question yes I have you've
56:28been evasive and You' gone off onk I
56:30said that your that your question
56:32question your eyes are shut again I say
56:33that your question is an accusation no
56:36the question is did you on the night of
56:38June 4th go into the Smart House your
56:41question take Elizabeth Smart your
56:43question is an accusation the question
56:45is a question nothing more it deserves a
56:47yes or no answer told you I told you I
56:49already answered you according to the
56:51spirit of the Lord no you didn't you did
56:53not answer you didn't answer the
56:54question I told you you didn't answer
56:55the question question I told you I did I
56:57did answer the question you didn't you
56:59tell me that you answer it but you
57:00didn't answer answer the question
57:01according to what the Lord God Almighty
57:03put into my heart did did you just say
57:05that you did I said I answered your
57:07question according to what the Lord God
57:09Almighty put in my heart to say well the
57:12Lord God Almighty put into your heart
57:14nothing because your answer was evasive
57:17you that's that's your accusation that I
57:19was being evasive I know I'm being
57:21truthful no sir my accusation is that
57:23you are a burglar and child rapist
57:27are my accusations and I'm waiting to
57:29hear your explanation and I'm telling
57:31you and testifying to you that I am a
57:32servant of the Lord Jesus
57:35Christ all
57:39that we are giving you every opportunity
57:41in the world tell us what Happ I never
57:44raped anybody so she consented to it I
57:46never raped anybody did she consent to
57:48have I just telling you I've never raped
57:50anybody okay so did she consent to have
57:52sexual I'm telling you I've never raped
57:53anybody you're accusing me of rape I'm
57:55telling you I've never raped any did you
57:57Tire to tether her somewhere so that she
57:59wouldn't be able to leave your
58:02campsite I've already answered your
58:04question no you didn't answer that I've
58:06already answered your question the Lord
58:08God Almighty put into my heart to say
58:10did the Lord put it into your heart to
58:11tie that girl so that she wouldn't be
58:13able to run away from
58:15you it's a yes or no question no it's
58:18not no a yes or no question is not
58:21you're you're saying you're saying
58:23you're saying to tie her down so that
58:26she wouldn't run away from you you're
58:28saying it's a yes or no question but
58:30that's what you're saying that's a yes
58:32or no question you know your words are
58:33now getting into gibberish because
58:37Brian I think we're getting to you H
58:40we're getting to the very corter of of
58:42Brian Mitchell who is not who is not
58:46David Isaiah Emmanuel you know you're
58:50really Brian
58:51Mitchell you like this is like this is
58:54like Jo no it's not like
58:56you're nothing like him this is like
58:58this is like when his best friends and
59:01you're not my best friends didn't kidnap
59:03you'd like me to thinking job didn't
59:05kidnap 14-year-old girls in have sex job
59:08job had his best friends come to him to
59:10convince him that he had
59:13sinned if you when you do that you see
59:16you're assaulting me I want you to look
59:18you're assaulting me he assaulted me now
59:19you this isting you yes there's no
59:23intent there's just intent to give you
59:24look to my eyes no the both of were
59:26assaults Brian you you grabbed my chin
59:29you know what else is assault you know
59:30what else is assault put a knife to a
59:3214-year-old girl's throat you poke me
59:35and he took and you took a knife and
59:37held it to Elizabeth's throat and took
59:39her out of the house and raped her and
59:41kept her for 9 months you tied her down
59:44so that she couldn't run away from you
59:45ACC it's that's not an accusation that's
59:47a truth that's fact that's a fact that's
59:50a fact and you want to talk about me
59:51doing this when you're taking your dick
59:53out and having sex with a 14-year-old
59:55girl against her consent your
59:57accusations are false so she consented
59:58to it I have only done what the Lord God
1:00:00Almighty commanded me to do Lord
1:00:02commanded you to have sex with a
1:00:0314-year-old girl me to receive what does
1:00:06that mean to receive a girl receive what
1:00:08does it mean to receive her what does
1:00:10that
1:00:11entail Brian you're hid CL eyes I can't
1:00:14I can't talk about I can't talk anything
1:00:16to you about what it
1:00:18entails about what anything entails
1:00:20beyond what the Lord God puts in my
1:00:22heart to say so when he says receiver
1:00:24what do you do God tells you to receive
1:00:26her as your wife what do you do what do
1:00:27you do you're asking me you're asking me
1:00:29to talk about things which are sacred
1:00:31and holy what did God tell you to you're
1:00:34asking me let's call let's call [ __ ]
1:00:37on that right away Brian let's call
1:00:39[ __ ] on that emuel
1:00:42Isaiah you're
1:00:45asking you're asking me to talk about
1:00:47things which are sacred and holy so it
1:00:49was holy to have sex with her sacred and
1:00:52holy sacred and holy to have sex with a
1:00:5514y old what you asked was what does it
1:00:57mean to receive her yeah that's all
1:00:59that's all you asked give an explanation
1:01:02all and all I did is say when you asked
1:01:04me the question what does it mean to
1:01:07receive her all I then I my answer was
1:01:10you're asking me to speak about things
1:01:12which are sacred and holy which I cannot
1:01:14talk about and I'm calling [ __ ] on
1:01:16so am I I call that a call [ __ ] you
1:01:19know you're cing out call it whatever
1:01:20you want you're pretty cocky that's what
1:01:23I see I see you sitting back there and
1:01:25you know
1:01:26spending all this theological [ __ ]
1:01:28to cover up the fact that you
1:01:30are wanting to take that 14-year-old
1:01:33girl as your own she snuck into the
1:01:34bedroom during the middle of the night
1:01:36while she's laying there with her
1:01:379-year-old sister in bed you hold a
1:01:38knife to her throat and say you're
1:01:40coming with me this is not sacred and
1:01:42holy this is much more simple than that
1:01:44this is about what you
1:01:46wanted this is about Wanda is a faithful
1:01:49follower and she's been with you for
1:01:50thick or thin but she's getting a little
1:01:52old and she's getting a little
1:01:54overweight probably not as good
1:01:56little unattractive you know older than
1:01:58you but Elizabeth's a beautiful girl you
1:02:00see Elizabeth and she's beautiful and
1:02:02she's thin and she's compant and she's
1:02:06obedient she's everything that anyone
1:02:09could ever want from a woman and if she
1:02:13could just listen and be with you you
1:02:14can you can talk to her and she'll obey
1:02:17you and she'll believe you and She'll
1:02:19follow you and she would make you a
1:02:22wonderful wife be you children and there
1:02:26you go and if that's your story we're
1:02:28here to hear that but yes we that's not
1:02:32my story that's your accusation and it's
1:02:35false it's my accusation so if my
1:02:37accusation is false what what we to be
1:02:40with 14y old I told you the truth God
1:02:43called her to you you
1:02:45said God called her to be your wife is
1:02:48that right yes you did to be a wife
1:02:51means to have sex with the husband so
1:02:54the two can be as one man and woman
1:02:55joined together is that not
1:02:59right
1:03:01yes what God has put together and what
1:03:03man put us under all that kind of
1:03:05stuff so God called Elizabeth to be your
1:03:09sexual partner and to be a good D wife
1:03:12you blasphemed God I do not scripture
1:03:16you blasphemed God the devil the devil
1:03:18can quote scripture too so but this is
1:03:21what happened God called Elizabeth to
1:03:23you to be your obedient wife your
1:03:2614-year-old virgin pure beautiful blonde
1:03:31I called to you for
1:03:33your I told you in God's eyes she was
1:03:36she's 18 in God's eyes she's 18 in God's
1:03:39eyes she's 18 in God's eyes she's 18 in
1:03:41the in the real world in our eyes she's
1:03:4414 in God's eyes she's 18 and she chose
1:03:48and she willingly
1:03:49chose to be sealed to me as my wife she
1:03:53chose to be sealed to me absolutely you
1:03:54know this is what call a breakthrough we
1:03:57want you to talk about your relationship
1:03:59with her if your relationship with
1:04:01Elizabeth is good and holy and ordained
1:04:06by God we want to hear that that's all
1:04:09you need to know about it you said it we
1:04:11need to know you though you though you
1:04:12don't believe it that's all that's all
1:04:14there that you need to know so did
1:04:17Elizabeth show up in your Camp one day
1:04:19whether go the Lord how did you two mean
1:04:23if you have nothing to be ashamed of in
1:04:24this relationship we really want to hear
1:04:27how it came to
1:04:29be you're both working very hard we are
1:04:33working hard because we we want your
1:04:35story you have a story you're working
1:04:37very hard both of you working very
1:04:40hard do you want to know why we want to
1:04:42why we work I already know why you work
1:04:45that
1:04:46why because you believe in what you're
1:04:50doing and you you like to do a good job
1:04:53both of you and what you believe is all
1:04:56the things you accused me of so you're
1:04:59working really hard Elizabeth's accused
1:05:01you of it too you're working really hard
1:05:03Elizabeth's accused you other you're
1:05:04working you're working really hard how
1:05:06come when we ask Elizabeth what happened
1:05:08she didn't say that she was delivered
1:05:10to Emanuel D David Isaiah by the Lord
1:05:14and then accepted I can just imagine why
1:05:18she would say the things you want her to
1:05:20say no no no we just simply asked her
1:05:22where have you been she's she she I can
1:05:24just imagine why she would say the
1:05:26things we don't want you know Brian I
1:05:29talked to Elizabeth out at the Sandy
1:05:30Police Station I have a little short
1:05:33interview with her out there she told me
1:05:36that
1:05:37you not anyone else not an angel but you
1:05:41appeared in her bedroom and held a knife
1:05:44on
1:05:45her and took her out of the house under
1:05:48threat of harming her
1:05:51family and that you walked her to a
1:05:53campsite where Wanda was and that you
1:05:56tethered her and kept her for days that
1:06:00you and Wanda demonstrated to her how to
1:06:02perform sex and then she was forced to
1:06:05have sex with you um Brian are
1:06:10not and here it again is you're not
1:06:14you're changing the subject I'm not
1:06:16honey to you I'm not you're not you're
1:06:18not being a friend to intimidation hone
1:06:21to you he h to me that's what I said let
1:06:25me ask this Manel you're putting and
1:06:28you're putting around your arm around me
1:06:29is not that of a the arm of a friend is
1:06:32this is this anything worse though than
1:06:33what you did to Elizabeth are you just
1:06:35are what are you what are you uh I'm
1:06:37asking you a question all I'm saying is
1:06:39what I did what I did I
1:06:42did and you you did what you almost did
1:06:45you almost answered a question you know
1:06:47Brian whenever we get too close to the
1:06:50truth how comes the Bible comes the
1:06:52Bible I told you that all that I've done
1:06:54has been out of a to the Lord okay yeah
1:06:57now you're back to the bible stuff
1:06:58you're back under your defense mechanism
1:07:00because we got a little too close to the
1:07:01truth there you you're talking to him
1:07:03about putting his arm around you I said
1:07:05is that anything worse than what you did
1:07:06to Elizabeth and then all a sudden the
1:07:07Bible comes out so let's go back again I
1:07:10haven't done anything I haven't done
1:07:12anything to Elizabeth what about except
1:07:14what the Lord
1:07:15God okay so except so you did do
1:07:18something to her but God told you to do
1:07:19it I received her I received her as my
1:07:22wife according to the Commandment of the
1:07:23Lord Okay so somehow she had to get to
1:07:26your
1:07:27campsite she says you got into the
1:07:29bedroom and took her there she said she
1:07:32was forced to
1:07:33go this wasn't something that was
1:07:35pre-planned that she knew about it ahead
1:07:36of time and had her bags back God didn't
1:07:39deliver her to you got her you can get
1:07:42her to believe many lies and accusations
1:07:45like the lie that you know you're a
1:07:46servant of the Lord you you can get her
1:07:48to believe many lies and accusations did
1:07:49you get her to believe any did you get
1:07:52her to believe any I did not get her to
1:07:54believe anything the Lord brought her to
1:07:56a knowledge of the truth so you got her
1:07:58to believe that she was your wife I
1:08:00didn't get her to believe anything the
1:08:02Lord brought her to a knowledge of the
1:08:03truth so her knowledge of the truth is
1:08:05what that you're the servant of the Lord
1:08:06and that she should have sex with you
1:08:08and that she should be your wife and
1:08:11that she should bear your children that
1:08:13she should be sealed to you this is this
1:08:15isn't going anywhere I didn't say that
1:08:17well we agree because you keep sending
1:08:19us off on tangent when we get to the
1:08:21very when we get real close to stuff
1:08:23then it's it gets interesting because
1:08:24then you know all these theological
1:08:27stuff starts spewing out of your mouth
1:08:29that makes no sense to anybody sitting
1:08:30in the room no and it didn't when Christ
1:08:32spoke anywhere you're not you're not
1:08:34Christ not you may have a resemblance to
1:08:36him with the beard and the long brown
1:08:38hair I've never I've never said that I
1:08:40was and I need to use the rest again if
1:08:42that's
1:08:44possible and get another drink of water
1:08:46if that's
1:08:47possible yes that's possible let's just
1:08:50check and make sure that uh everything's
1:08:53clear wait right
1:09:02there all right it's
1:09:12[Music]
1:09:20clearon we appreciate that we could all
1:09:22use a little break now and then yeah
1:09:25[Music]
1:09:31[Music]
1:09:35most
1:09:38gra no
1:09:41tend
1:09:43life
1:09:48can I need thee Oh I need thee
1:09:56I know the
1:09:58song I know the
1:10:02song
1:10:05My I
1:10:08[Music]
1:10:11come I need the
1:10:16every
1:10:19in did you sing this to Elizabeth no we
1:10:22sing it in
1:10:23church I've never however sang at a
1:10:25campsite where I had a 14-year-old girl
1:10:27tethered up right before you had sex
1:10:29with her right before I raped her I you
1:10:33ever you ever sing it before you held a
1:10:35knife to a 14-year-old girl's throat
1:10:40need you're going to need
1:10:50[Music]
1:10:52something you going to come to the
1:10:57the Emanuel it's time to
1:11:07talk how many more verses is it to this
1:11:10song cuz I grew up cat like we don't
1:11:11have this four so this is what we've
1:11:14been through
1:11:15two Manel we're going to wait right here
1:11:18while you hide in your song but when
1:11:20you're done singing you're going to have
1:11:21to come out and talk to us you can't
1:11:23sing forever all right you can't sing
1:11:34forever to
1:11:38the
1:11:40Emmanuel because I have been given much
1:11:45I too must give how about giving us the
1:11:48truth because I have thy great love dear
1:11:51Lord each day I live
1:11:55I shall divide my gifts from thee with
1:11:59every brother that I
1:12:02see
1:12:04who
1:12:06[Music]
1:12:11of because I have been sheltered F by
1:12:16thy good
1:12:18care I can I'm actually waiting
1:12:22for w for Jason got I thought you were
1:12:26waiting for Amazing Grace
1:12:28no we can wait for that too I'm just
1:12:31waiting for Jason to get here and do
1:12:32this or Swing Low Sweet
1:12:35Chariot in fact you doesn't know the
1:12:37rest of the
1:12:39words that's the problem with Brian is
1:12:42he puts on the Hees of being a great
1:12:44Christian but when it comes down to real
1:12:46substance I'm afraid there's no
1:12:48substance to
1:12:50him I'm going to go see where Jason is
1:12:53all right
1:12:55I'll share Thy word again according
1:13:00to I'll share
1:13:02th get hung up on that one that's a
1:13:05tough
1:13:19note Brian would like to take a couple
1:13:21of your pictures would you mind standing
1:13:23up
1:13:24[Applause]
1:13:26okay that's sweet you tell me which
1:13:28pictures were you want I'll just do a
1:13:31bunch do a couple of close in head face
1:13:35shots I may not need
1:13:37it does he have any TS or anything I
1:13:41don't believe he does he doesn't own the
1:13:43record that I have of
1:13:49him sliding that way just a little bit
1:13:51and we'll just get the whole thing of
1:13:54you step back just a little bit because
1:13:56I'm trying to get some distance here
1:14:04and you have any
1:14:06tatto oh yeah take a bunch take some
1:14:08profile too okay how about looking at
1:14:11this handsome gentleman right
1:14:18there okay well do it
1:14:26all right how about looking at the wall
1:14:28for me fact why don't you step this way
1:14:29a little bit so we can get a little more
1:14:31light on
1:14:41you any scars or anything oh full I get
1:14:45another disc so I'm not aware of any hey
1:14:49Emanuel do you have any tattoos on your
1:14:52any scars or anything like that no any
1:14:55wounds or
1:14:58anything okay let me I'll go give this
1:15:00to Ron and we'll make sure there's
1:15:03worked sit down let's we've been awfully
1:15:06confrontational don't really like to do
1:15:08that but honest to goodness can I
1:15:10explain some things
1:15:11to you
1:15:15were are you going to hide in your songs
1:15:18I'm going hide in the Lord Jesus Christ
1:15:20hide in him yeah because quoting the
1:15:23Bible can't work anymore we're on so we
1:15:25got to find a way to crack this new
1:15:28[Music]
1:15:33defense I've read the
1:15:36Bible and when I've read the Bible I
1:15:38remember the scriptures about little
1:15:41children and how you're not to harm
1:15:44them and Brian I'm just wondering are
1:15:47you going to tie a millstone around your
1:15:48neck and jump in a
1:15:50lake like the Lord commanded that you
1:15:53should do if you are servant of the Lord
1:15:57you should obey his
1:15:59Commandments soul and Brian you have not
1:16:02obey the Lord's
1:16:08[Music]
1:16:09command in fact you been you've been
1:16:12rather bad
1:16:14Brian you've sinned against a child
1:16:17Brian God forgive siners God will not
1:16:20forgive some sins any
1:16:23know Haring children is one of the sins
1:16:26that will not be forgiven
1:16:29right
1:16:32[Music]
1:16:33myself you know this is a great
1:16:35mechanism that you come up with here but
1:16:37it's only going to go
1:16:39on you need to talk to us in honest to
1:16:42goodness let's take a new time we are
1:16:44here get thee
1:16:46behind on your sight get thee behind me
1:16:49Satan no get thee behind me Satan I'm
1:16:53not Satan and I'm right here uning part
1:16:56get thee behind me Satan and I wanted
1:16:58rational explanation for get thee behind
1:17:01me Satan if you're a prophet of God get
1:17:05thee behind me Satan you have no power
1:17:08get thee behind me Satan you have no
1:17:10power Brian get thee behind me Satan you
1:17:14have no power thee behind me Satan you
1:17:18do not speak for Jesus Brian this is his
1:17:20new defense you do not speak for Jesus
1:17:22you have no power over me you have no
1:17:25power over anybody you are not a servant
1:17:28of the Lord because you have sinned you
1:17:31have harmed a child in direct
1:17:33contradiction to Jesus Christ's
1:17:36Commandments you need to evaluate your
1:17:38life here Brian we want your explanation
1:17:41of what happened that's all we want and
1:17:44then we're out of your hair and then
1:17:45we're out of your hair but you have to
1:17:47come back to the secular world for a few
1:17:49minutes and you have to explain your
1:17:51actions because we need to explain your
1:17:53actions dark so I turn flash up going
1:17:55take another disc and which other ones
1:17:58they go away Craig go away oh
1:18:02sorry okay we have to get down to the
1:18:06real core of Brian and we have to give
1:18:10us a secular explanation of what
1:18:12happened you don't have any power here
1:18:14you don't speak for Jesus Christ you
1:18:17have done things that are sins and then
1:18:20direct contradiction to
1:18:22scriptures you know we actually don't
1:18:25hate you we really don't we just want an
1:18:28explanation for what happen so we can
1:18:30bring it back to the family you know
1:18:31honest to God you do have to set up
1:18:33straight and you do have to take some
1:18:35responsibility for your actions and if
1:18:37you don't think that you were doing
1:18:39anything wrong then we're going to hear
1:18:40that too okay yeah we have been bad we
1:18:44have belittle you and we have called you
1:18:45a fraud and we've done all kinds of
1:18:47things because you haven't been truthful
1:18:48with us and you haven't given us
1:18:51explanations we really ready to listen
1:18:55we have to hear your story to go tell
1:18:56the judge okay so we talk to
1:19:01us Brian com out of here will you talk
1:19:04to
1:19:07us listen we're going to have a lot more
1:19:09patience we've we've waited nine months
1:19:11and we're going to we cannot wait you on
1:19:14this so we're not going away and you're
1:19:16not leaving
1:19:18here all it takes is a couple minutes to
1:19:20explain what
1:19:22happened in a way that we can understand
1:19:26that's it yeah you don't live in the
1:19:28world but you got to come back to us to
1:19:30the secular world and just make your
1:19:31explanations okay if you never would
1:19:34have taken her we never would have had
1:19:37to have this conversation you could
1:19:38still be living wherever you wanted to
1:19:40live see right now all we have is
1:19:42Elizabeth's explanations of events of
1:19:45what happened and quite frankly they
1:19:47make you look really really
1:19:49bad they do I mean there's no question
1:19:52about who did it and there's really no
1:19:55question about the motive for it and
1:19:58there's just no question about what
1:20:01happened you got to stand tall for some
1:20:04pretty serious accusations and crimes
1:20:06and we've given you every opportunity to
1:20:08give us a rational explanation of what
1:20:11transpired and give us your sight of the
1:20:13story and we are very confused by your
1:20:16actions you Proclaim that you have done
1:20:18nothing wrong even though what you have
1:20:21done is directly in contradiction to
1:20:23state laws federal laws and God's
1:20:27laws and whenever we get close to asking
1:20:30you what happened uh you just go off on
1:20:33irrational diet tribes and start quoting
1:20:35scriptures and singing it's obvious to
1:20:38me that you are very uncomfortable with
1:20:40your own actions and that you have no
1:20:43explanation and un like a true servant
1:20:46of Jesus Christ who can stand up and
1:20:48tell the truth and answer forther
1:20:51actions you
1:20:53cannot you cannot
1:20:55tell us what happened which of course
1:20:58leads us to know that Brian you're a
1:21:02fraud deep down in the core of your
1:21:04being you know that you are just a
1:21:07loser you're just a loser you can't make
1:21:10it in the
1:21:12world who does fancy young
1:21:15girls go take a virgin out of her own
1:21:18bed at knif point and force her to have
1:21:20sex with your smelly disgusting
1:21:24self a girl younger than your own
1:21:27daughters for God's sakes you know
1:21:31you're no servant of Jesus Christ Ryan
1:21:34you are what you are which is
1:21:37unfortunately just a
1:21:39real life street
1:21:42beggar child
1:21:45rapist fraud sinner I love you I don't
1:21:50love you love you don't tell me don't
1:21:53tell me the truth love you oh please
1:21:55don't I got enough I love you seriously
1:21:57I love you you don't love you I know you
1:22:01don't I know you hate me I don't hate
1:22:03you I hate what you did and I and I
1:22:05forgive you Hey listen I don't forgive
1:22:07you Brian you have no power to forgive
1:22:10me Brian you have no power to forgive
1:22:12sins on Earth that power only belongs to
1:22:15God don't forgive me I don't want your
1:22:17forgiveness you don't have the power to
1:22:19Grant it you think that you are morally
1:22:21Superior because you've convinced
1:22:23yourself that the Holy Ghost speaks to
1:22:25you and only to you and Brian that's
1:22:26just a
1:22:27fraud that's a
1:22:29lie you have deceived yourself let's
1:22:33face it you had a losing job at OC
1:22:35Tanner you had a string of losing
1:22:39marriages you haven't been able to hold
1:22:41a
1:22:42job you destroyed your relationship with
1:22:45your own children by having sex with
1:22:47them you have just you're just a loser
1:22:51you are not set up on a pedestal by
1:22:54anybody
1:22:55any better than anyone else if this you
1:22:58had to keep this girl in your Camp by
1:23:00tying her down that's right that's what
1:23:03she told us you have to take her at
1:23:05night point and why would anybody want
1:23:07anyone like that a young girl
1:23:11virgin unless he's a child rapist I mean
1:23:14actually you think of yourself as the
1:23:16highest of the high set apart by God but
1:23:19the truth of the matter is is your name
1:23:21is Brian Mitchell
1:23:25and you're attracted to young girls and
1:23:27you're just a loser who can't hold a job
1:23:30or keep a marriage together or stay in a
1:23:34church you're just or raise a child or
1:23:37raise a child or be a responsible
1:23:40father you're just nothing Brian you're
1:23:43just a loser or find attracted wom
1:23:45that's the first thing true thing you
1:23:46said in all that I am nothing where
1:23:49Jesus Christ is here we go again that's
1:23:52right we're all Sinners nothing
1:23:55we all nothing and you least of all you
1:23:58have done something that if you were
1:23:59really a true believer of Jesus Christ
1:24:01and a follower of his will you would
1:24:03have killed yourself for harming a
1:24:06child so don't don't tell me that you're
1:24:09a servant of God because Servants of God
1:24:12obey his will and obey his Commandments
1:24:14you know that that's right in the Bible
1:24:16and they don't and they don't and they
1:24:17don't deny what they've done and
1:24:20Prophets stand up and answer questions
1:24:22directly they're willing to stand up and
1:24:23say hey I did this and uh they're
1:24:25willing to take responsibility and and
1:24:27and have whatever happened Christ gave
1:24:29himself up and knew he was going to die
1:24:32and he was
1:24:33executed so I know that much about the
1:24:35Bible so the real core values of Brian
1:24:38to us seem that Brian is just a loser
1:24:40who can't make it anytime someone asks
1:24:43you a really difficult question spot off
1:24:45the Bible quit your job move somewhere
1:24:48else change your
1:24:50name you want to talk to your mom about
1:24:53you quite a bit
1:24:56talk to your own children about
1:24:58you you know I feel bad for you actually
1:25:02you had a pretty tough life you know
1:25:04career-wise certainly marriage wise
1:25:07Debbie's a very mean and vindictive
1:25:09person you know you've been through a
1:25:11lot of
1:25:12hell but don't tell us that you're a
1:25:15servant of Jesus Christ when your
1:25:17actions speak louder than your
1:25:20words
1:25:22okay so this is it we're getting down to
1:25:25like your last opportunities here we'd
1:25:28want to hear you
1:25:30talk how about
1:25:35it could you open your eyes for a second
1:25:40here come on just for a little
1:25:43bit don't open up and say I love you
1:25:46because you know it's all too gushy for
1:25:48me
1:25:50uh maybe you could explain could you be
1:25:52willing to explain that to her family I
1:25:54mean do you want us to walk out of here
1:25:57and tell Elizabeth's parents who have
1:25:59gone through absolute hell since June
1:26:025th and tell them that you
1:26:06know God God delivered your daughter
1:26:10Elizabeth your beautiful 14-year-old
1:26:11daughter Elizabeth delivered her her to
1:26:15uh homeless transient that smells bad
1:26:18and lives in a tend of the
1:26:20mountains is that what you want us to
1:26:22tell her tell them
1:26:26you know the reason that we know that
1:26:28you're full of [ __ ] is because your
1:26:29actions speak louder than your words the
1:26:31burglary in San Diego you gave a bad
1:26:35name you told him your name was Johnson
1:26:37Michael Johnson the date of birth he
1:26:40told him was one digit off from every
1:26:41digit in your real
1:26:43birthday does a servant of God break
1:26:45into a what was that a church what was
1:26:48that all
1:26:49about did Jesus when he was ever
1:26:52confronted by the Romans did he ever
1:26:53said his name was was uh Mike
1:26:56Johnson and not only that what about the
1:26:59shoplift from the 7-Eleven across the
1:27:01street stealing beer beer I mean what's
1:27:05that all
1:27:06about you
1:27:09know you're just full of [ __ ]
1:27:11Brian you're full of
1:27:14[ __ ] and we want to get to the basics
1:27:17here we really do want to get into your
1:27:18head and have you tell us what you were
1:27:19thinking and what happened and why you
1:27:21did what you did it's your story to tell
1:27:24and I got to tell you right now it's not
1:27:25looking good for you you were really
1:27:27looking at the rest of your life in
1:27:28prison and I know right now that doesn't
1:27:30seem like much to you but you're never
1:27:32going to see Wanda again you're never
1:27:34going to walk around and pan handle
1:27:36you're never going to eat decent food
1:27:38you got to wonder what's going on in
1:27:40that interview
1:27:41too think Wanda wants to spend the rest
1:27:43of her life in prison you think she's
1:27:46going to fall for this H Clin and
1:27:49sinker or thinks she's going to start
1:27:51talking about everything that happened
1:27:52during the past nine months and how you
1:27:54engineered this whole thing and planned
1:27:56it just cuz you wanted a young girl
1:27:59women are women hell have no fury like a
1:28:01woman scorned and I guarantee you
1:28:02there's probably some point in time
1:28:04where your wife was probably jealous
1:28:06that you were paying more attention to a
1:28:08beautiful 14-year-old blond-headed girl
1:28:10than
1:28:13her you know we see what happened here
1:28:16Brian what happened is wand is getting a
1:28:18little older she's getting a little
1:28:19dumpy
1:28:20looking and you go work on a house and
1:28:23there is an absolute
1:28:25beautiful obedient Angel
1:28:28virgin playing the harp and oh my
1:28:32goodness why would God have her even
1:28:34born on this Earth unless it was to
1:28:36deliver her to you for you to do as you
1:28:40will with
1:28:41her you know it's pretty ugly scenario
1:28:45here we're thinking very ugly thoughts
1:28:47about you
1:28:48Brian and your response is to try and
1:28:51hide behind your closed eyes
1:28:56well you can't okay you just can't
1:29:01you're a fraud you're no servant of God
1:29:05God doesn't talk to you the Holy Spirit
1:29:07hasn't told you to do anything you took
1:29:10this girl because of your own lust and
1:29:12your own desires you committed a
1:29:14horrible crime against God and against
1:29:18the laws of the state of Utah and the
1:29:20United States you know you've done
1:29:21terrible things and the only thing you
1:29:23can do is hyp behind your closed
1:29:25eyes you know we're just not getting
1:29:27through to
1:29:28you if you want to go down like this
1:29:32you're going to go down but let me tell
1:29:34you you're not going down as a servant
1:29:35of God going down as a child rapist
1:29:38you're just going down as a child rapist
1:29:40you're going down as the lowest of the
1:29:42low and when you get into that prison
1:29:43with all those other people oh you're
1:29:46going they're going to think even uglier
1:29:47thoughts than we are you're going to be
1:29:51famous and maybe you think the Lord will
1:29:53protect you in prison but I guarantee
1:29:55just as you cannot order me to get
1:29:57behind you and get out of your your hair
1:29:59and drop dead you sure as can't order
1:30:02them to do anything either because Brian
1:30:04you have no Authority from God the Holy
1:30:07Spirit has granted you nothing nothing
1:30:11for must have been pretty powerful to
1:30:14have that power over Elizabeth that
1:30:15whole time that whole nine months any
1:30:18other child would have absolutely just
1:30:19run away at the first
1:30:22opportunity okay but you just latched on
1:30:24to one that because of her good LDS
1:30:26upbringing was very obedient and easy to
1:30:29brainwash well your luck has run out
1:30:32it's time to
1:30:35answer so how about it you going to tell
1:30:38us anything or you just going to hide
1:30:39there behind your closed eyes and be
1:30:42mar martyr
1:30:46a know it's too good of a term for Brian
1:30:49Brian's no martyr I'm thinking of martyr
1:30:51is like you know
1:30:55he's definitely not one of them well I
1:30:58guess we're getting to things that are
1:31:00just too painful to talk about here
1:31:01because you're just hiding in there and
1:31:03you're not being responsive we're
1:31:06answering this tell me this o Brian you
1:31:08do realize that your life is different
1:31:10from this moment on
1:31:11right you
1:31:14do maybe he's trying to impress upon us
1:31:16that he's already been delivered he's
1:31:18not available anymore I hate to tell you
1:31:20this Brian but the Rapture has not
1:31:21happened God has not taken you to Heaven
1:31:24you're still in this room with me and
1:31:25and Jeff here you cannot
1:31:29Escape God is not going to save you
1:31:31because you have not been subservient to
1:31:34God not the true
1:31:36God you're just a lowlife child molester
1:31:39God is not going to protect you from
1:31:40this there's no protection from
1:31:45us you need to come out of there Brian
1:31:48come
1:31:49on do you know how many people have been
1:31:51hurt in addition to Elizabeth and her
1:31:53family how many people have been dragged
1:31:54in here because they worked at the Smart
1:31:56house and have had their lives
1:31:57completely disrupted because of
1:31:59something that you did to satisfy your
1:32:02own sexual lust for a 14-year-old girl
1:32:06and do you know that a man was taken
1:32:07into custody named Richard
1:32:09reesei a totally innocent man innocent
1:32:13and you knew about it and you failed to
1:32:16tell us you failed to come forward and
1:32:19Richard reesei died because of your
1:32:22actions he died because of your refusal
1:32:25to come forward die because of the
1:32:26stress of being held in prison you are
1:32:29willing to let another man take your
1:32:32place Christ wouldn't have done that
1:32:34doesn't Christ take our place for our
1:32:36sins and instead you send an innocent
1:32:38man to death because you weren't man
1:32:40enough to step forward and admit your
1:32:42actions you could have saved Richard REI
1:32:44at any time at any moment you could have
1:32:47saved an innocent man just by coming
1:32:48forward and saying here she is alive and
1:32:51little but no you let him die you let an
1:32:56innocent man go down and die for your
1:32:58actions and for what and for what Brian
1:33:03because of your sexual desires for a
1:33:04young
1:33:07virgin oh
1:33:09man I don't love you Brian you are a
1:33:13fraud you are a fraud sir you let people
1:33:16take the blame and you pissed me off
1:33:19because you try to hide behind Jesus
1:33:21Christ to justify your own actions and
1:33:23your own mind
1:33:24which isn't that uncommon with
1:33:25pedophiles it's not that's absolutely
1:33:28not child molesters always you know
1:33:31usually the ones that sing the loudest
1:33:33that's right the loudest in church yeah
1:33:36priests youth counselors LS Bishops yep
1:33:39and here we have another one right here
1:33:42servant of the Lord servant of the Lord
1:33:44that let an innocent man go to his death
1:33:46because he would refuse to come forward
1:33:49a man who harmed a child a mere
1:33:52child you know no we don't have any
1:33:54respect for you Brian and I don't think
1:33:57that your name is Emmanuel I think
1:33:59that's all part of the grand fraud that
1:34:01is your
1:34:03life I've been waiting to hear rational
1:34:05explanations for your actions
1:34:17Brian got nothing else going on to you I
1:34:19can sit
1:34:21here make a phone call will to sit here
1:34:24and wait you out that's dinner
1:34:48time what's the smile
1:34:51for I was just enjoying the Tor playing
1:34:54over there
1:34:58really
1:35:02why you think I'm
1:35:05frustrated do you take joy in
1:35:08frustrating our efforts this must be
1:35:11kind of a Power Play here's a homeless
1:35:14transient guy who can't keep a job
1:35:17who's
1:35:20got the whole Salt Lake City Police
1:35:22Department the FBI
1:35:24just waiting to what you have to say
1:35:25that's pretty
1:35:27powerful that's pretty powerful and
1:35:30that's what it all comes down to it's
1:35:32not consent it's not you know oh I'm in
1:35:37love with this you know this is
1:35:38Elizabeth girl she's in love with me
1:35:39she's going to she's going to be sealed
1:35:42as my wife and I live out in the woods
1:35:44with her it's not that it was all about
1:35:48power otherwise you could have just
1:35:49knocked on the door and say excuse me Mr
1:35:51smart but uh think your daughter wants
1:35:53to come come with
1:36:00me power it's all about power now you
1:36:03now you must be feeling pretty powerful
1:36:07now has nothing to do with Christ or the
1:36:10Bible or Old Testament New
1:36:14Testament none of that all it comes down
1:36:17to Brian David Mitchell homeless
1:36:21transient
1:36:23keep a job can't keep a wife can't keep
1:36:27his dick out of his kid
1:36:32hands and uh you know complete loser at
1:36:35everything but boy for that nine months
1:36:36You Were King you had a 14-year-old girl
1:36:38at your becking call but you know she
1:36:40need come willingly so she had to tie
1:36:41her down hold a knife to her throat
1:36:42threaten her little
1:36:44sister and now this is your chance to
1:36:46take responsibility for your stuff for
1:36:48your actions you just sit there you sing
1:36:51church hymns you quote scripture
1:36:54shut your eyes it's pretty
1:36:57powerful only problem is is you don't
1:37:00seem to know your scriptures as well as
1:37:01you think you do I as well as
1:37:04cordon and I've only read the Bible
1:37:06three times in my lifetime I can
1:37:08honestly say I only read it when they
1:37:09told me to you don't know your hymns you
1:37:12run out of you run out of the verses
1:37:14after this second verse you don't know
1:37:16the words for them then you start
1:37:17humming then you start
1:37:20humming can't answer the truth you know
1:37:23the truth is such a simple thing it
1:37:25never changes never changes so the new
1:37:28move is just keep quiet and sit there
1:37:30with your eyes shut pretend that we're
1:37:32not
1:37:34here you know you talk about our tactics
1:37:36being bad yours are worse you think
1:37:38you're the only guy that we've ever
1:37:40talked to in this room you think you're
1:37:42the only pedophile that we've ever had
1:37:44to sit down with and have a long chat
1:37:47with that we've had to ask them about
1:37:49how many kids they've had sex with how
1:37:51many children they forced no you're
1:37:53really not not that different you
1:37:55know you're not that different than
1:37:57anybody else you're
1:38:00not you're just not you're not special
1:38:05right and this [ __ ] about the Holy
1:38:07Spirit talking to you and commanding you
1:38:09to do this and command need to do that
1:38:11that's just one big ego defense
1:38:14mechanism to cover up the failures of
1:38:16your
1:38:18life it's a it's a it's a thinking error
1:38:23failure to take responsibility for your
1:38:25own actions so you put it on the Holy
1:38:27Spirit that's a
1:38:29that's but we know deep down inside you
1:38:32know that the Holy Spirit doesn't talk
1:38:33to you Brian you know that deep down
1:38:36inside you know you
1:38:38feel horrible about yourself and that
1:38:40you think you're a horrible person
1:38:42because you like having sex with young
1:38:46girls but the only way that you can
1:38:48defend it and kind of move on without
1:38:51tying a millstone around your neck and
1:38:52throwing yourself in the like is if you
1:38:54trick yourself into some thinking
1:38:58Distortion that the Holy Spirit told you
1:39:01to do it you know you stand convicted by
1:39:03your own actions Brian you are
1:39:07convicted you're very convicted because
1:39:10Jesus said by the fruits you shall know
1:39:13them and know what they
1:39:14are good trees bring forth good fruit
1:39:18bad trees bring forth bad fruit we've
1:39:21seen what you've brought forth what you
1:39:23have brought forth are two rather large
1:39:26felonies under the state of EA statutes
1:39:29forcible sex with a A young underage
1:39:32girl an abduction out of her safe
1:39:34bedroom in the middle of the night um
1:39:38you know your arguments are absurd on
1:39:41their face as far as uh you being a
1:39:43servant of Jesus Christ your actions
1:39:46speak much louder than your
1:39:48words you know you're you're just a
1:39:51fraud and do you think you're seriously
1:39:54going to go to court and sit in front of
1:39:56a jury of your
1:39:57peers and try and say that you are
1:40:00deluded into thinking you were doing the
1:40:02right thing and and maybe that'll get
1:40:04you off somehow I need to point out to
1:40:07that you were contacted by a policeman
1:40:09that by Wild Oats and you gave a bad
1:40:12name you were contact you were arrested
1:40:15for burglary in San Diego you gave a bad
1:40:18name and a bad date of birth the Sandy
1:40:20Police Stopped you on State Street out
1:40:22by the graveyard and again you gave a
1:40:24false name and a false date of birth
1:40:27trying to fool them and thinking you're
1:40:29somebody else but when you get stopped
1:40:31today you're Emanuel D David Isaiah and
1:40:35once you're arrested by me and we bring
1:40:37your ass down here then you're then you
1:40:40climb up on your high horse and try to
1:40:42hide behind Jesus Christ in scripture
1:40:44but you don't know your scriptures that
1:40:46goddamn well and you don't know your
1:40:48hyns you're just you're not you're just
1:40:52read ting to me okay you think you're
1:40:55something special but you're just
1:40:57another criminal criminal
1:41:01boy you've committed criminal acts and
1:41:03you got to stand for it when we even
1:41:05want you to express your opinions about
1:41:10you know about why you are who you are
1:41:13and why you did what you did you won't
1:41:15answer the most direct and easiest of
1:41:18answer questions not even a yes or no
1:41:20answer oh you're a fraud
1:41:24you're a frog
1:41:27right and you stand convicted in the
1:41:30eyes of God and in the eyes of the law
1:41:33and you don't have any
1:41:35that you just don't have any explanation
1:41:38and that's why you're hiding behind your
1:41:40closed eyes and your Stony silence
1:41:42you're just you have no explanation and
1:41:45we are not going away and you have no
1:41:50inspiration and God is not going to SA
1:41:53from this and you ordered me in the name
1:41:55of God to get behind you and here I am
1:41:58in your face and you know now that you
1:42:00don't have any Authority from God you're
1:42:03just a man like anyone else and not a
1:42:06very good one at bad I think there's a
1:42:08reasonable argument to suggest that God
1:42:10delivered you to
1:42:13us you're here we saw through your lies
1:42:17and we arrested
1:42:19you and we brought you here why' you
1:42:22come back to Salt Lake
1:42:26City I'm I just answering that Brian
1:42:29why'd you come back to Salt
1:42:31Lake this had to be the hottest place of
1:42:33all places to come
1:42:35to everyone knows Elizabeth's face it's
1:42:38still posted on every single storefront
1:42:40that I've ever been into since June
1:42:435th why'd you come back here was she get
1:42:46to be a pain in the
1:42:50ass huh two women too much of a pain P
1:42:53too much
1:42:57nagging is that it you got a little
1:42:59smile on your face when I said
1:43:01that women can be tough to live
1:43:05with two were you dying of estrogen
1:43:08poisoning it getting to you come on
1:43:12man hum remember an answer to that one
1:43:14why'd you come back to Salt Lake
1:43:20City come on
1:43:23why'd you come back to Sal
1:43:28Lake
1:43:32huh did you come back to Salt Lake
1:43:36because you wanted her to go back
1:43:40[Music]
1:43:42home was it getting too much of a pain
1:43:45to try supporting three people on
1:43:48the panhandling and recycling cans
1:43:53was she starting to hope that she was
1:43:54back home with her parents at
1:43:57school with the boyfriend her
1:44:00age with their sister Mary
1:44:03Katherine huh you know you might think
1:44:07that you're special in all that but as
1:44:09soon as we separated Elizabeth from you
1:44:11I mean the very second I sat down with
1:44:14her in sanity she started to give you up
1:44:18she gave you up she didn't even hesitate
1:44:23and you know what she thinks of
1:44:25you she thinks you are a child rapist
1:44:29you took her virginity from her he took
1:44:32her out of her own house house away from
1:44:34her own family and did the most vile and
1:44:37unspeakable act a grown man can never do
1:44:40to a
1:44:41child Elizabeth doesn't like
1:44:44you she doesn't like you she's talking
1:44:47about you right now okay so is your wife
1:44:51Wanda nothing
1:44:53special Elizabeth doesn't like you at
1:44:55all she found you actually rather smelly
1:44:58and
1:44:59disgusting you know that
1:45:03Brian your family for all eternity Wanda
1:45:07and
1:45:08Elizabeth they don't even like you
1:45:10that's got to be
1:45:12tough oh yes Elizabeth is Elizabeth she
1:45:15ain't
1:45:16Jesu she J she
1:45:19jip that's what a bunch of worship that
1:45:22is
1:45:26did you actually think that this uh
1:45:28biblical explanation was going to work
1:45:30because I mean soon as we walked in it
1:45:31was almost like it was scripted I'm sure
1:45:34that Brian has been thinking about what
1:45:35would happen when the gravy train came
1:45:37to an end and the police finally got on
1:45:40to him because I'm sure that even in
1:45:42your thinking Brian you know that the
1:45:44good times wouldn't last forever you had
1:45:46to have an exit strategy and it's not
1:45:48like and this is it only problem is is
1:45:51we've debunked your life about being a
1:45:54prophet of God about it would have
1:45:56worked had he stood up and sto told the
1:45:58truth whenever you were contacted by the
1:46:00police you know a jury would have
1:46:01believed you but since you deliberately
1:46:03lied three times I'm aware of now to
1:46:05cover your identity I don't think any
1:46:07jury is going to believe that you're
1:46:08really all that crazy early
1:46:16Brian your whole life is crashing down
1:46:19around you right now all I would say
1:46:21it's over it's done
1:46:24Wanda's giving you up she obviously
1:46:26didn't like the fact that for n months
1:46:28you know you found someone new beautiful
1:46:3214-year-old blonde girl I brought
1:46:34Elizabeth down with her dad they wrote
1:46:36in the back of my police car all the way
1:46:37down here you know they said there and
1:46:39they cried together all the way back
1:46:41they were so happy to be back together
1:46:42again and Elizabeth is so happy that she
1:46:45no longer ever has to see you again as
1:46:48long as she lives she never has to touch
1:46:52you again she never has to smell your
1:46:54foul body OD she never has to lie with
1:46:58you she never has to sleep out on the
1:47:00streets again sleep out in the camp with
1:47:02a tethered down to a so that she can't
1:47:05run away she's free she's free of you
1:47:09and if you think anybody's going to lie
1:47:11to protect you yes again she's already
1:47:15been in there telling us everything that
1:47:17happen and guess what Wanda doesn't want
1:47:18to spend the rest of her life in prison
1:47:23you're finished my friend you're going
1:47:25to jail from here and you are never ever
1:47:28ever going to get out you were going to
1:47:31die in prison does that mean anything to
1:47:34you no one's going to listen to you
1:47:37prophesy out there no one's going to
1:47:39give a [ __ ] if you say that you're
1:47:40inspired by God you're going to die a
1:47:43very miserable and lonely old man in a
1:47:47jail cell with nobody to come Vis visit
1:47:50you nobody caring about you
1:47:53is that what you want and all your stuff
1:47:56about being a prophet soon as this hits
1:47:59the news they're not going to look at
1:48:01you that way they're going to look at
1:48:03you as homeless jobless Drifter loser
1:48:08child Lester
1:48:10kidnapper it's not going to say servant
1:48:13of the Lord arrested in the kidnapping
1:48:16of Elizabeth Smart they're going to say
1:48:18homeless Drifter who worked at De
1:48:19Smart's house arrested for kidnapping
1:48:22Elizabeth smart some child rape and and
1:48:25and raping
1:48:26her and all your stuff about marriage
1:48:29sealed by she was re you were re you
1:48:32received her from the
1:48:34Lord is is going to be laughed
1:48:45at maybe sometime you want to tell us
1:48:47exactly what
1:48:50happened I'm not leaving
1:48:55no you have no explanations you have to
1:48:58hide in your Stony silence because the
1:49:00truth is just too difficult for you to
1:49:02say the truth is too difficult to face
1:49:05instead of being I mean just think of
1:49:07how that sounds if you were to say I
1:49:09like to have sex with 14-year-old girls
1:49:12I mean just to admit that that's got to
1:49:14be the lowest of low especially when you
1:49:17know that it's wrong and especially when
1:49:19you have to do it by force I mean
1:49:22there's for 14year olds out there
1:49:23that'll lay down for you if you approach
1:49:25them right consensually they'd be glad
1:49:27to oh no what did you not a beautiful
1:49:30angel like Elizabeth you got to take a
1:49:32knife sneak into her bedroom threaten to
1:49:34kill her threaten to kill her little
1:49:35sister then drag her out and Hike her up
1:49:38to a camp and you need a tired down
1:49:40she's got to be a virgin and pure and
1:49:43that doesn't make you any more pure
1:49:44Brian that just makes you that much more
1:49:47sick sick
1:49:49Brian you got to have a virgin so you
1:49:52against your will now we're calling
1:49:55[ __ ] on you in your life and all you
1:49:57can do is sit there behind your Stony
1:49:59silence CU we know we both know you got
1:50:02no explanation you got nowh to go you're
1:50:05a
1:50:06[ __ ] you're a
1:50:08loser you just can't
1:50:15answer you know
1:50:17what I feel comfortable knowing that
1:50:20Elizabeth Smart from here on out out is
1:50:23where she
1:50:25belongs I feel comfortable knowing that
1:50:28you will never be able to put your hands
1:50:30on her again and you'll spend the rest
1:50:32of your life in prison and I'll feel no
1:50:35shame for it I don't think I'll burn in
1:50:37hell for
1:50:39it I think uh my Patron St St
1:50:43Michaels just going to you know look
1:50:46down upon this and say good job it's not
1:50:49going to look upon me with any shame or
1:50:51anything like that
1:51:00it's got to be difficult when you you
1:51:02know to face up to the fact on that one
1:51:04day probably weren't expecting it to be
1:51:05today I don't think you probably ever
1:51:07knew what day it was going to be but did
1:51:09you actually have to face up to the fact
1:51:11that your whole make believe world was
1:51:13just all a bunch of Lies based on a
1:51:15bunch of lies and based upon lust yeah
1:51:19that's what it all comes down to you
1:51:20want to have sex with Elizabeth smart
1:51:22that beautiful blond haired Angel who
1:51:26played the
1:51:27harp lived in a nice house that you
1:51:29worked
1:51:31at and you said remove her from
1:51:35Babylon what a laugh why would you say
1:51:40that
1:51:44H why is why is why is a smart family
1:51:48why is their household considered
1:51:50Babylon why did you feel the need to
1:51:52remove her from there you know if you
1:51:55would have chosen an unrighteous girl
1:51:56that would even be some sort of an
1:51:58explanation but these guys were devout
1:51:59LDS they prayed to

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