Elizabeth Holmes Trial Update #19 (Why HOLMES Is In BIG TROUBLE) — Transcript
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- 0:00i was standing on the 26th floor of the
- 0:03jones day office in san francisco
- 0:06looking out to alcatraz
- 0:08and i knew at that moment that i was in
- 0:11really big trouble trouble because about
- 0:14six minutes before i was looking out
- 0:16into alcatraz
- 0:17i had received word that i had failed a
- 0:20lie detector test i chose to take this
- 0:22lie detector test for a number of
- 0:24reasons including that i was delusional
- 0:26somewhat insane i think in trying to
- 0:28convince everyone my lawyers myself my
- 0:30family that i was innocent of these
- 0:33charges so i paid for this lie detector
- 0:35test
- 0:36i tried to cheat my way through the exam
- 0:38and i failed
- 0:40miserably and at that moment i knew that
- 0:42i was in really
- 0:43big trouble well all defendants at some
- 0:46point of the journey recognized they are
- 0:48here they're in really big
- 0:51trouble in this video the first one in
- 0:53nearly two weeks i'm going to cover
- 0:56why elizabeth holmes is in really big
- 0:59trouble as we go through her specific
- 1:01testimony what she is saying how is she
- 1:04responding
- 1:05i actually had an interest in flying up
- 1:07to san jose to try to film this video
- 1:10from in and around the courthouse then i
- 1:12recognized there's no way they were
- 1:14going to let me into the courthouse but
- 1:15that's okay because i've been to prison
- 1:17and everyone on our team has experienced
- 1:20this system i don't need to be in the
- 1:21courthouse to provide
- 1:23insight that i think our team can
- 1:24provide because we've been through it
- 1:26and we know the consequences that follow
- 1:28making bad decisions and continuing to
- 1:30double down on bad decisions so we're
- 1:32going to transition into her testimony
- 1:34in a moment before i do
- 1:36thank you so much for your incredible
- 1:38engagement our last video crossed over
- 1:40forty thousand views forty thousand
- 1:43views just in that one video so thank
- 1:45you please like and subscribe and
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- 1:48us to do better and i know some of you
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- 1:52they're both good and bad with the hopes
- 1:54that it provides incredible value to you
- 1:56so thank you again and let's dive in
- 1:59with elizabeth holmes testimony and why
- 2:01i think she's in very big trouble all
- 2:04right so let's dive right in with the
- 2:06blog our team wrote at prison professors
- 2:09as we cover her testimony but before i
- 2:11begin i'm aware that she's already in
- 2:13big trouble my goodness she's been
- 2:14indicted she's looking up to 20 years in
- 2:16federal prison my point i'll cover in
- 2:18this video is specific things she is
- 2:20saying in doing i think prove how
- 2:22desperate their case is and how unlikely
- 2:25it is that that she prevails and that's
- 2:27why i think that the defense has thrown
- 2:30a hail mary hail mary hail mary by
- 2:32having her testify because all it takes
- 2:34is one juror to be sympathetic as a
- 2:36reminder one juror alternate was
- 2:38dismissed because she said it would be
- 2:41hard to send a young mother to prison so
- 2:43they're rolling the dice so to speak but
- 2:45they're also leveraging off her
- 2:47strengths as executives you got to play
- 2:48to your strengths well what is the
- 2:50strength of elizabeth holmes well some
- 2:52people would argue she was only able to
- 2:54raise money by
- 2:56deceit and fraud and treachery
- 2:58essentially lying to people there are a
- 3:00number of people that would say she was
- 3:02magnetic she was smart and she had a
- 3:05magnetic ability and she connected with
- 3:08people so if that is a strength of hers
- 3:10at least according to some
- 3:12and if they know the odds of prevailing
- 3:14at trial are so low because the lion's
- 3:16share of defendants that go to trial
- 3:18lose it
- 3:19you can now see why she's testifying
- 3:22because all she needs is one sympathetic
- 3:24juror to believe
- 3:25that it was balwani or she didn't have
- 3:27bad intent her manipulations and puffery
- 3:30are very common in silicon valley so
- 3:33given her history of raising money at
- 3:35such large levels and convincing people
- 3:37to work alongside her
- 3:39very powerful and rich influential
- 3:41people her lawyers probably deduced
- 3:44you might as well testify because all we
- 3:45need is one quickly for some background
- 3:47if you've been living under a rock or
- 3:49unfortunately some of my friends who are
- 3:50in prison who don't have access to
- 3:51iphones or the internet let me give a
- 3:53quick summary of where we are in this
- 3:55case as we know elizabeth holmes is on
- 3:58trial accused of multiple instances of
- 4:00fraud against doctors patients and
- 4:02investors in connection with her role as
- 4:04founder and ceo of theranos that she
- 4:07started no3 after dropping out of
- 4:08stanford
- 4:10interesting in her testimony
- 4:12she mentioned that she dropped out of
- 4:14stanford in part
- 4:16because because she had she had been
- 4:17raped and that contributed to her
- 4:19dropping out of stanford a criminal uh
- 4:22defendant taking the witness stand will
- 4:24first testify on direct examination
- 4:26meaning the witness is responding to
- 4:29questions from their own lawyers i can
- 4:31assure you
- 4:33having been in this space for 13 years
- 4:35including having clients gone to trial
- 4:38she spent hundreds of hours going
- 4:39through every possible scenario with
- 4:41with her lawyers every possible
- 4:44response it was manufactured it was well
- 4:46thought through nothing caught her off
- 4:49guard so that's how it starts with her
- 4:51defense team asking her questions once
- 4:53holmes direct examination concludes
- 4:56prosecutors will have ample opportunity
- 4:58to question homes in front of the jury
- 5:00the cross-examination to challenge her
- 5:02testimony and present her with
- 5:04contradicting evidence then there will
- 5:06be a chance for redirect examination of
- 5:08holmes again by her team the purpose of
- 5:10the redirect is typically to give the
- 5:12witness another chance to explain their
- 5:14position on relevant matters under less
- 5:16pressure and more friendly
- 5:18reporting reportedly during her time on
- 5:21the witness stand elizabeth holmes has
- 5:22been making eye contact with the jurors
- 5:25this can be very important for the
- 5:26defendant to connect with with jurors
- 5:29the goal for the defense is for the jury
- 5:31to see her as a human being they're
- 5:33trying to shift the narrative the
- 5:34government's narrative from the u.s
- 5:36attorney is she's a thief she's a crook
- 5:37she's a fraud everything she did was
- 5:39under deceit there's no way she could
- 5:40have built this business she didn't have
- 5:41the skill set to do it
- 5:43that's the government's narrative that
- 5:45is their position the defense certainly
- 5:47has a different narrative which is she
- 5:49didn't have bad intent it's not a fraud
- 5:51if a business goes belly up these things
- 5:52happen every single day and by the way
- 5:54it wasn't even her fault anyway it was
- 5:56somebody else's so they're seeking
- 5:58sympathy looking they're looking to
- 5:59portray her as an executive as someone
- 6:02who's overcome a great deal of heart
- 6:04hardship who was and i know for many of
- 6:06you you hear hardship and laugh but i'm
- 6:08talking about hardship by way of balwani
- 6:10and how difficult it is to thrive and
- 6:12succeed as a female entrepreneur in
- 6:13silicon valley again this is her
- 6:16lawyer's
- 6:17narrative trying to counter the
- 6:18government saying she is nothing more
- 6:20than than a fraudster continuing
- 6:23as i mentioned holmes will use this
- 6:25opportunity to show her charm hoping
- 6:27jurors will see her
- 6:28as someone who just tried and she failed
- 6:31and we all try in life sometimes
- 6:32unfortunately some of us fail but that
- 6:34ain't fraud and that shouldn't send you
- 6:37to prison how are yours going to respond
- 6:38to the testimony well we we're going to
- 6:40see we're going to see soon enough with
- 6:43that said let's get into some of the
- 6:44specific things she said while on the
- 6:46stand and i'll offer my insights on
- 6:48those on those specific statements
- 6:51so let's address some of the things she
- 6:52specifically said naturally the defense
- 6:54has opened up her testimony by
- 6:56discussing how she was a true believer
- 6:59in this company and they claim that it
- 7:00was within her right
- 7:02to rely on the doctors the scientists
- 7:05and people in charge of the lab she
- 7:07relied on them and therefore because she
- 7:09relied on them even though she was the
- 7:10ceo because she relied on them she
- 7:12shouldn't bear any criminal
- 7:14responsibility i've said this previously
- 7:16the reason so few ceos in the mortgage
- 7:18meltdown of eight nine ten and eleven
- 7:20went to prison is because they would say
- 7:22i'm running a huge company here i can't
- 7:23be responsible responsible for what
- 7:25everyone is doing beneath me regardless
- 7:28if she's on tv saying i'm the ceo
- 7:30responsibility and the buck stops with
- 7:32me she's on trial now fighting for her
- 7:34life and they're going to throw out all
- 7:36angles holm said on the stand that her
- 7:38team was always working to fix these
- 7:39bugs or so she was told and in the end
- 7:42of the day the technology didn't work
- 7:44and that's because she relied on the
- 7:45wrong people and they were unable to fix
- 7:47it specifically she was asked who was
- 7:50responsible for the operational
- 7:52management of the lab and she responded
- 7:54sonny belwani
- 7:55the clinical scientific decision making
- 7:58meanwhile was the job of the laboratory
- 8:00director and laboratory leadership
- 8:02then the defense tried to go on the
- 8:04positive and talk about how how could
- 8:06she have had any criminal intent how
- 8:08could she have had any intentions to
- 8:10defraud if she didn't sell one share in
- 8:12her company she said i didn't want to i
- 8:15believed in the company and wanted to
- 8:16put everything i had into it so here's
- 8:21here's a big problem and why she's in
- 8:22such trouble
- 8:24think about some instances in your own
- 8:26life where you've had arguments or
- 8:28fights or things have gone awry and you
- 8:29have a you know you have an issue with
- 8:31someone things begin to heal and you
- 8:33begin to make amends once you can
- 8:34finally say i'm sorry i could have done
- 8:36this differently except responsibility
- 8:39for some bad decisions that i made
- 8:42elizabeth holmes is unwilling to accept
- 8:44responsibility
- 8:46for anything if she were to at least
- 8:48acknowledge on the stand yes i knew
- 8:51yes that rests with me
- 8:53yes i should have been more informed and
- 8:55paid more attention to what was taking
- 8:57place she would actually
- 8:59she would get more credibility from the
- 9:01jury because then at least they could
- 9:03say
- 9:04finally she's accepted responsibility
- 9:06for something instead it's easier to
- 9:09blame everybody else but then take
- 9:11credit if there's something positive for
- 9:13existence
- 9:14for instance not selling any of her
- 9:16shares but that doesn't necessarily mean
- 9:18that she wasn't committing fraud why a
- 9:20big sales part of her sales shtick could
- 9:24have been i am such a believer in this
- 9:25company
- 9:27and have a billions of dollars in this
- 9:29company i'm such a believer that i'm not
- 9:31even selling any of my own stock so it's
- 9:34easy for her to say if i was intending
- 9:36to commit fraud why would i not sell any
- 9:38of my stock that's her defense
- 9:39attorney's job to sell
- 9:41well to the flip side i know having been
- 9:44in this space for 13 years
- 9:46that it was a big part of her sales
- 9:48process to raise more money by saying
- 9:50i'm not selling you should invest and
- 9:53we'll do this and grow together
- 9:55testimony continued with elizabeth
- 9:57holmes talking about the relationship
- 9:59that theranos had with
- 10:01the big pharmaceutical companies
- 10:02including glaxosmithkline bristol myers
- 10:05merck pfizer and she gave the impression
- 10:09that these pharmaceutical companies
- 10:11validated theranos's
- 10:13technology
- 10:14there is one moment where she
- 10:16acknowledged wrongdoing frankly she had
- 10:18to because there wasn't gray
- 10:21it was as black as white as can be and
- 10:22that was her putting the pfizer logo and
- 10:25then sending it out to walgreens and of
- 10:27course putting the pfizer logo on that
- 10:30that piece of paper gave the impression
- 10:31that pfizer validated their technology
- 10:34when they did not she specifically said
- 10:36i wish i had done it differently in this
- 10:37respect i think this is a very big deal
- 10:40because you need intent for a conviction
- 10:43and when her lawyers say she did not
- 10:44have that intent how could you not have
- 10:46bad intent when you put a logo on a
- 10:49piece of paper which would then compel
- 10:50someone to do business with your company
- 10:53in that case she had to own it and
- 10:54accept it because there was so much
- 10:56evidence you know placing her at the
- 10:59wrong doing there she frankly had had no
- 11:01other choice she should be doing more of
- 11:03that frankly she should be doing more of
- 11:05i did this wrong i could have done this
- 11:06differently i'm sorry then her lawyers
- 11:08can say see she admits wrongdoing here
- 11:11but not there instead she continues to
- 11:12go down this path of blaming others for
- 11:14example they got into discussions with
- 11:17her lead lab scientist daniel young and
- 11:20she just simply said yeah it went bad
- 11:22but it wasn't my fault daniel young was
- 11:24responsible for the whole
- 11:26project and again and again and again
- 11:28there's this great quote from george
- 11:30santiana a philosopher who said
- 11:31something akin to those who don't
- 11:33understand the past are doomed to repeat
- 11:35it she is continuing down this path of
- 11:38excusing of blaming others it isn't her
- 11:40fault she's continuing to put herself
- 11:42in that situation that's frankly why
- 11:44she's on trial it's why she's looking at
- 11:4720 years in prison if i may stay
- 11:48philosophical it was nietzsche in 1851
- 11:50who said the value of something is not
- 11:52what you attain with it for what it
- 11:54costs you well maybe she attains an
- 11:56acquittal or maybe she gets some
- 11:58benefits from this who knows but what is
- 12:00it costing or her dignity
- 12:02any semblance of responsibility of doing
- 12:04the right thing of acknowledging some
- 12:07wrong doing
- 12:09what is it costing her by continuing to
- 12:12blame other people and to not learn
- 12:14anything from bad decisions of her past
- 12:16it's hurting others those that love and
- 12:18support her and it could lead to a very
- 12:19long time in federal prison she had an
- 12:21opportunity to do things differently
- 12:24because instead she just does what she's
- 12:26always done hence santa anna's you know
- 12:28doomed to make the same decisions from
- 12:30the past when she spoke specifically
- 12:32about trade secrets trade secret secrets
- 12:35i had a tough time saying that one
- 12:37specifically she said because they were
- 12:39considered trade secrets in intellectual
- 12:42property information she couldn't
- 12:43disclose it she couldn't discuss it
- 12:45because of counsel and the use of
- 12:47third-party analyzers in that way was an
- 12:49invention as we understood from our
- 12:51council we had to protect it as a trade
- 12:53secret if we disclose that information
- 12:55we could lose our trade secret potential
- 12:58it's just
- 12:59it's utter nonsense as i transition into
- 13:01the final testimony from elizabeth
- 13:03holmes as she gets specifically into
- 13:05statements about sunny belwani and their
- 13:07relationship so let's keep let's keep it
- 13:10going without question the most
- 13:12impactful part of the testimony was when
- 13:14she discussed her relationship with
- 13:16sonny balwani her former lover in 20
- 13:18years her senior she did address on the
- 13:21stand as i mentioned in the opening that
- 13:22she dropped out of stanford in part
- 13:24because she was she was raped she then
- 13:27addressed how following getting raped
- 13:29and then she met belwani the
- 13:31abuse continued bows verbally and
- 13:34sexually balwani's lawyers adamantly
- 13:36deny this they think it's sickening and
- 13:37tragic that she's going down this road
- 13:40and blaming
- 13:41balwani a number of experts see this
- 13:43testimony is laying the groundwork for
- 13:45this bengali defense svengali has come
- 13:48to refer to someone who tried to
- 13:49dominate manipulate and control another
- 13:52with evil intent in court this bengali
- 13:54defense is a legal strategy that
- 13:56portrays the defendant as a victim upon
- 13:59in the scheme of a greater and more
- 14:00influential criminal
- 14:02mastermind again they're going with
- 14:05they're going with all they got here
- 14:07specifically holmes testified that
- 14:09belwani tried to take credit for
- 14:10theranos's success and her skills as a
- 14:13leader she said belwani would say that
- 14:15he built me into who i was after
- 14:17speaking with young women inspired by
- 14:19homes in may 2015
- 14:21balwani texted her i have molded you
- 14:24balwani meant that he was responsible
- 14:25for people's admiration of her the
- 14:28testimony delved into the personal and
- 14:29physical abuse holmes said she suffered
- 14:31in her relationship with balboa
- 14:33including being told i was a monkey
- 14:35trying to fly a spaceship holmes made
- 14:38notes of insults from belwani and she
- 14:39recalled the time belwani said to her i
- 14:42don't enjoy being in a company that's
- 14:43not going to win
- 14:45so angry at myself for coming
- 14:48let's just
- 14:48say all of these things are true and
- 14:50it's sort of a he said she said let's
- 14:52just say they're true
- 14:54none of it excuses
- 14:57her role in deceiving and lying to
- 14:59people to raise money there are people
- 15:01unfortunately in this country who are
- 15:02addicted to drugs and have had have
- 15:05severe mental health issues our prisons
- 15:07are full of people with mental health
- 15:09issues you probably shouldn't be in
- 15:10prison they should be getting treatment
- 15:11there's somebody who robbed a bank
- 15:13because they were high on drugs
- 15:16and sick and drunk and mental health
- 15:18issues and
- 15:19tons of problems yet they broke the law
- 15:22they committed a crime
- 15:24and they're in prison the a big part of
- 15:27what she's doing incorrectly another big
- 15:29problem that she has she's essentially
- 15:31mitigating on the stand she's not really
- 15:34articulating why she's innocent because
- 15:36she's the ceo and there's so much
- 15:37evidence where she says that you know
- 15:40the buck stops with me i'm the ceo what
- 15:42she's doing here is essentially she's
- 15:44mitigating these things are relevant if
- 15:46she's convicted if she's convicted at
- 15:49trial and as she prepares for sentencing
- 15:52she attempts to mitigate all of these
- 15:54things are mitigating factors if she was
- 15:55raped if she was abused if she felt she
- 15:58was exploited these are all mitigating
- 16:01factors to try to get a shorter sentence
- 16:05but they're not going to result in my
- 16:07opinion or experience and her getting
- 16:10acquitted she's addressing mitigating
- 16:12factors but nothing that she is saying
- 16:14excuses her role in raising money and
- 16:18having people lose money and saying
- 16:19things that aren't true regardless of
- 16:22what balwani did if he did it it's wrong
- 16:24again it will be a mitigating factor but
- 16:26it does not excuse her conduct just like
- 16:29a judge would tell a person who robbed a
- 16:30bank who was on drugs or had mental
- 16:32health issues that yes i empathize with
- 16:35you that you've had health issues you're
- 16:36a drug addict i empathize with you but
- 16:38you still broke the law you still robbed
- 16:40a bank i have to send you to prison
- 16:42they're mitigating factors but they
- 16:44don't excuse someone from getting
- 16:46convicted
- 16:48the testimony uh continued holmes
- 16:50continued to try to distance herself
- 16:52from the day-to-day
- 16:53i get a little worked up on these sorts
- 16:55of things because there are prisons are
- 16:57full of people who did not have bad
- 16:59intent who have mental health issues who
- 17:01are still there for long periods of time
- 17:04but many of them come to say i'm sorry
- 17:05regardless of having mental health
- 17:07issues i'm sorry regardless of being an
- 17:10act i want to do better i want to become
- 17:12stronger learning from their past those
- 17:14are the people that that i admire
- 17:17and i just i don't know let me continue
- 17:19here holmes continued to try to distance
- 17:21herself from the day-to-day management
- 17:23of the these laboratories claiming she
- 17:25was not aware of any of the problems
- 17:27with their noses technology she
- 17:29testified of course that she did not run
- 17:31the lab operations others were
- 17:33responsible for oversight of the
- 17:35scientific and lab issues her lawyer
- 17:37asked her who was responsible for
- 17:39operational management sunny belwani
- 17:41again balwani was in charge of the
- 17:43business parts of the lab according to
- 17:45holmes belwani tried to control her
- 17:47actions and personal life once they
- 17:49became involved he told me that he
- 17:51didn't know what i was doing in business
- 17:53that my convictions were wrong i wanna
- 17:55even told her what foods to eat to make
- 17:57her pure and have the disciplined
- 17:58lifestyle necessary for success i'm
- 18:01fortunate that my wife does not tell me
- 18:02what to eat nor do i tell her what to
- 18:04eat that would be weird and odd they
- 18:06appeared to have a weird and odd
- 18:08relationship and frankly i'm glad that i
- 18:10uh that i don't know them that why
- 18:12criticized her personality and would get
- 18:14angry at her for being mediocre telling
- 18:16her she would never be successful he
- 18:18felt i came across as a little girl and
- 18:20needed to be more serious and pointed
- 18:23and not giddy in my interactions again
- 18:25does an excuse for breaking the law
- 18:27these are all mitigating factors what
- 18:29she's doing on the stand is trying to
- 18:30mitigate the sentence if convicted i
- 18:32don't find it compelling or if a jury
- 18:34were to acquit her because
- 18:36her former boss and lover told her what
- 18:38to eat
- 18:40god help us ultimately uh holmes lost
- 18:43face in belwani she told the jury he
- 18:45taught me everything that i thought
- 18:47uh i knew about business and i thought
- 18:49he was the best business person that i
- 18:51knew i think i didn't question him in
- 18:52that way that i otherwise
- 18:55would have continuing on holmes
- 18:56testified that she
- 18:58had thought theranose had one of the
- 18:59best labs in the world before that he
- 19:02wasn't who i thought i was she said
- 19:04referring specifically to belwani as to
- 19:07what impact belwani had on her work at
- 19:09their nose holmes answered i don't know
- 19:11he impacted everything about who i was
- 19:13and i don't fully understand that again
- 19:15this is just another golden opportunity
- 19:18for her to talk about perhaps how she
- 19:20was naive and even when she
- 19:22thought he was doing things that were
- 19:24incorrect or wrong or manipulating her
- 19:26as the ceo of a billion dollar company a
- 19:28billionaire herself
- 19:29she should have been able to find these
- 19:31things
- 19:32find out if he was lying to her
- 19:34manipulating her after all that's why
- 19:35you're the ceo if not you shouldn't have
- 19:37been in that position you shouldn't have
- 19:39been you shouldn't have been a ceo it's
- 19:41just so troubling for
- 19:43for me to read and hear that she could
- 19:45even say
- 19:46you know i i don't know and i don't
- 19:48understand that she's had years of
- 19:50lawsuits and settlements and pain and
- 19:52time alone to think about the impact
- 19:54that he had that was a golden
- 19:56opportunity for her to share a very
- 19:57insightful and thoughtful answer with
- 20:00with the jury in fact she simply said i
- 20:03don't know
- 20:04holmes is trial testimony we learned
- 20:06conflicts with what holmes told the
- 20:07securities exchange commission in 2017.
- 20:10of course there now settled i think for
- 20:11700 million dollars with the securities
- 20:13and exchange commission
- 20:15during the sec deposition she said i'm
- 20:17the ceo i'm the ultimate decision maker
- 20:19for the company of course it's in her
- 20:21interest
- 20:22to say that to the fcc it's civil
- 20:25toothless they're civil regulators not
- 20:27criminal and not responsible for putting
- 20:28her in prison so it makes sense that she
- 20:30would give a different message to civil
- 20:33regulators than she would on stand when
- 20:34she's fighting
- 20:36for her life holmes's testimony
- 20:38concluded by reinforcing her vision for
- 20:41theranos and her belief in the company
- 20:42for the jury i believed in the company i
- 20:45wanted to put everything i had into it
- 20:47as to the vision sold investors for
- 20:49theranos's future homesteader goal was
- 20:51to improve access to testing and medical
- 20:53data to catch diseases earlier and treat
- 20:56them more effectively
- 20:58lastly when asked why she never sold her
- 20:5950 stake i touched on this earlier
- 21:02valued at uh four and a half billion
- 21:04despite board members urging her not to
- 21:06she said she didn't want to she
- 21:08confirmed that her shares and theranos
- 21:10are worthless today
- 21:12i'll close essentially with how i open
- 21:15defendants are in a lot of trouble and
- 21:17many of them double down and make
- 21:18matters worse i'm of the opinion
- 21:20elizabeth holmes would have positioned
- 21:22herself
- 21:23to
- 21:24a higher chance of getting
- 21:26acquitted if she were to at least
- 21:28acknowledge some wrongdoing something
- 21:30that she did irresponsibly or even
- 21:32criminal because then a jury could say
- 21:34okay she acknowledged doing this yet do
- 21:36we want to send her to prison has she
- 21:38suffered enough has she been through
- 21:40enough has she endured enough instead
- 21:42when you issue nothing but blanket
- 21:44denials and excuse
- 21:45it upsets people and angers them
- 21:48because in this country you can earn a
- 21:50second chance we do forgive but not if
- 21:53we blame not if we blame other people
- 21:55and that's the path and the road that
- 21:56she's continuing to go down and it's the
- 21:58reason where if she were to get
- 22:00acquitted people would be apoplectic
- 22:01they'll be angry they don't feel as if
- 22:03justice will be served and if she is
- 22:05acquitted to her credit she rolled the
- 22:06dice takes a lot of courage to go to
- 22:08trial despite the odds
- 22:10though from the evidence that we're
- 22:11seeing in acquittal seems
- 22:14unlikely thank you very much for
- 22:15following this uh new video i hope you
- 22:18found value in it and i look forward to
- 22:19returning uh soon with more videos on
- 22:21the elizabeth holmes trial be well be
- 22:23safe happy holidays bye-bye
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