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ELITE Agentic Engineers Are LEAVING THE LOOP... Here’s why — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Look, AI agents make fewer mistakes than
  2. 0:02you or I on our best days as engineers.
  3. 0:05Don't take my word for it. Give Opus 5.5
  4. 0:07a hard task and read the trace.
  5. 0:09Seriously, read the trace. It now looks
  6. 0:11like an alien engineer running the most
  7. 0:14obscene bash commands and tool call
  8. 0:16combinations, and it's not a one-off.
  9. 0:19Opus and Astra do this
  10. 0:20back-to-back-to-back. You and I are
  11. 0:22smart, so let's ask smart questions. If
  12. 0:25the agent is a better programmer inside
  13. 0:27the loop, why are you still sitting in
  14. 0:30it? Recent intelligence has unlocked a
  15. 0:32new level of capability that the best
  16. 0:35engineers are obsessing over. If you
  17. 0:37want to know what this new level is that
  18. 0:39you can unlock, you're watching the
  19. 0:41right video. I've been working with
  20. 0:43language models and agents since it was
  21. 0:45first possible. Before that, I trained
  22. 0:47classic scikit-learn models. I have 15
  23. 0:50plus years of software engineering
  24. 0:52experience underneath all of it, and
  25. 0:54that's exactly why I'm telling you this.
  26. 0:56Experience doesn't auto unlock this new
  27. 0:59level in the age of AI. Your experience
  28. 1:01pays off if you change how you operate.
  29. 1:05Not all of us will make this leap. Why?
  30. 1:07Because we're doing things the way they
  31. 1:09were done yesterday. What are Opus,
  32. 1:11Astra, and DeepSeek? These are new
  33. 1:13tools, nothing more, nothing less. But
  34. 1:15stack enough of them in the right
  35. 1:17architecture, and you can change what's
  36. 1:19possible by changing how you operate.
  37. 1:22And you've been doing this. Instead of
  38. 1:24writing the skill yourself, you taught
  39. 1:25your agent how to write your skill. Meta
  40. 1:27skills, check. Instead of running 10
  41. 1:29agents yourself, you ran [music] one
  42. 1:31agent to prompt nine. Orchestration,
  43. 1:33check. Instead of being stuck in the
  44. 1:35loop, realizing you can build [music]
  45. 1:37the system that builds the system. And
  46. 1:39this begins the critical journey from
  47. 1:41human in the loop to near the loop to
  48. 1:44finally out the loop. [music] That's the
  49. 1:46central topic for this video. I'll show
  50. 1:48you three of many near-loop agents I'm
  51. 1:50running [music] right now that do real
  52. 1:52work before I sit down. And by the end
  53. 1:54of this video, you'll know exactly how
  54. 1:56to level up your agentic [music]
  55. 1:58engineering. Stick around and let's
  56. 2:00understand in loop, near loop, out loop.
  57. 2:07What if your agents never stopped?
  58. 2:14The big question is, what can run
  59. 2:17without you next? This is the guiding
  60. 2:18question. This moves us from in loop to
  61. 2:20near the loop to out the loop. We are
  62. 2:22constantly building the system that
  63. 2:24builds the system. That's the theme
  64. 2:25here. Prompt, click, cron. What do I
  65. 2:27mean by this? Let's break it down. When
  66. 2:29you're in the loop, it's you and the
  67. 2:30terminal. You're constantly applying
  68. 2:32your attention to write prompts. When
  69. 2:34you're near the loop, you're clicking,
  70. 2:36you're responding, you're giving advice,
  71. 2:38you're giving feedback. When you're out
  72. 2:39the loop, it's full cron. You have
  73. 2:41stepped away. You are not a requirement
  74. 2:43anymore. And this is the new mental
  75. 2:46model for understanding your agentic
  76. 2:48engineering skill by the results you can
  77. 2:50achieve. If you're improving, you're
  78. 2:52building more systems that don't need
  79. 2:54you in the loop. You're building more
  80. 2:56near the loop systems and more out the
  81. 2:57loop systems. So, why is in the loop
  82. 3:00such a problem? Let's talk about it.
  83. 3:02What's wrong with being in the loop? The
  84. 3:03problem with being in the loop is that
  85. 3:04you and I, as you know, are the
  86. 3:06limitation. You and I are now the
  87. 3:09bottleneck. Our agents can do so much
  88. 3:11more if we have the right skills, if we
  89. 3:13have the right tools, technology, and if
  90. 3:14we're operating the right way. This
  91. 3:17threshold, this new level of capability,
  92. 3:19requires you to change how you're
  93. 3:21operating because you and I are the
  94. 3:23bottleneck. And the hard truth here is
  95. 3:2580% or more of all the work we're doing
  96. 3:28right now can run without you, can run
  97. 3:30without me with the right system in
  98. 3:32place. So, the next question is, what is
  99. 3:34this system? And what is this way of
  100. 3:36thinking? And as you know, you know,
  101. 3:37based on the title,
  102. 3:39it's out loop. But then another problem
  103. 3:41arises very quickly. Jumping right from
  104. 3:43in loop to out loop is hard. So, what do
  105. 3:45we do? We create this middle step, this
  106. 3:47transition in between fully required
  107. 3:51butts and seats, you using all your
  108. 3:53attention on the next prompt, you
  109. 3:54watching your agent, jumping straight to
  110. 3:56out loop is hard and challenging. So,
  111. 3:58what do we do? We move near the loop. We
  112. 4:00incrementally work toward the future we
  113. 4:02want to create where our systems can
  114. 4:04operate for us without us by first
  115. 4:06stepping away and then stepping in when
  116. 4:09we're required. So, the big difference
  117. 4:11is are you being proactive or are you
  118. 4:13being reactive? You want to be
  119. 4:15proactive. You want to build systems
  120. 4:16that start working for you before you
  121. 4:19sit down. And we've been covering these
  122. 4:21on the channel week after week, but it
  123. 4:22looks like this. Instead of you being
  124. 4:24the trigger, you have a concrete event.
  125. 4:27Think webhook. Think cron. Think user
  126. 4:30action near interface. Think Jev
  127. 4:32classifying an event from your log
  128. 4:34stream. There are a million other ways
  129. 4:37to kick off your agent. Why are you
  130. 4:38still the main one? That's phase one and
  131. 4:41phase two agentic coding. That's in
  132. 4:44loop. That's yesterday's advantage.
  133. 4:46That's fully saturated. You want to
  134. 4:48switch to thinking about pro- active
  135. 4:50agents, proactive agent systems. The
  136. 4:53thing that they need kicks them off. If
  137. 4:55you haven't figured it out yet, the
  138. 4:56thing they need isn't you. It's
  139. 4:58information. And it's the right
  140. 5:00information. And that's the job now of
  141. 5:02agentic engineers. Get the right agent
  142. 5:04the right information.
  143. 5:11Why do this? Who cares about proactive
  144. 5:13agents? Why am I bringing this up on the
  145. 5:14channel for the third time in a row?
  146. 5:15It's because work happens before and
  147. 5:18after you check in. This is the result
  148. 5:19of investing, putting time in, and
  149. 5:21creating a system that only requires you
  150. 5:23to be near the loop, okay, which is
  151. 5:25substantially different than in the
  152. 5:27loop. But it's still close enough that
  153. 5:29it doesn't feel super disconnected.
  154. 5:30Let's walk through a real use case. The
  155. 5:31classic one we'll be looking at is some
  156. 5:33event comes in to your event stream, to
  157. 5:34your log stream. Triage happens. You'll
  158. 5:37use Jev to classify the event. You
  159. 5:38prepare the patch. And then your agents
  160. 5:40present it to you. This is where you
  161. 5:42check in. You make a concrete decision.
  162. 5:44And then guess what? You can walk away
  163. 5:45because you've already built it into the
  164. 5:47system what happens next, right? You
  165. 5:48have an AI developer workflow executing
  166. 5:50on your behalf. Detect event, triage,
  167. 5:52patch, ask, apply the change, verify the
  168. 5:55change, results saved. This is human
  169. 5:57near the loop. Work happens before and
  170. 5:59after you check in. Very, very valuable.
  171. 6:01So, what are the core elements you need
  172. 6:03to understand to build these near loop
  173. 6:05systems? Again, themes on the channel.
  174. 6:07We've been talking about these week
  175. 6:08after week after week, because they
  176. 6:09matter so much right now. This is high
  177. 6:11signal information. Durable agents is
  178. 6:13the first item. Why do we need durable
  179. 6:15agents? Why can't we just throw classic
  180. 6:17pie, classic cloud code, classic code X
  181. 6:19at this problem? It's because we need to
  182. 6:20survive crashes, restarts, closed
  183. 6:22laptops. Speaking of closed laptops, the
  184. 6:24big up level here is a classic theme
  185. 6:27that's permeating throughout the
  186. 6:28software industry. You want to put your
  187. 6:30agent in their own sandbox. You want to
  188. 6:32give them their own CPU compute. And for
  189. 6:34the labs, also GPU compute. Why is this?
  190. 6:37It's because they're always on. It's
  191. 6:39isolated. It's safe, if you're
  192. 6:40sandboxing properly. And most
  193. 6:42importantly, it's autonomous. You're
  194. 6:44scaling your agents into their own
  195. 6:45environments where they can perform like
  196. 6:47you, because they have all the tools you
  197. 6:49have. And the most important tool is a
  198. 6:51full computer. So, that's not it. This
  199. 6:53doesn't make a near loop agent. You need
  200. 6:55something else. You need a clear API
  201. 6:58layer, so that you can connect a variety
  202. 7:00of triggers to actually activate the
  203. 7:02system. Again, there are a million ways
  204. 7:05to kick off your agent. Why are you
  205. 7:06still the main one? Asking yourself that
  206. 7:09question, it lets you design the system
  207. 7:11where you can move from in the loop to
  208. 7:13near the loop. And they're all exactly
  209. 7:15what you would expect. Cron triggers,
  210. 7:16log events, tickets, right? User
  211. 7:18interfaces, drag and drop image events.
  212. 7:21And then of course, CLI agents working
  213. 7:23on their own time, doing their own
  214. 7:25thing, kicking off your near loop
  215. 7:26system. So, this is what it takes. These
  216. 7:28are the core elements of a near loop
  217. 7:31system. This creates something really
  218. 7:32powerful once you build it out. The
  219. 7:34thing that really makes it a step
  220. 7:36change, a level up in your capacity, is
  221. 7:38that a durable agent plus a trigger in a
  222. 7:40sandbox gives you a proactive agent.
  223. 7:43This agent does not wait for you to
  224. 7:45work, it works for you then waits. This
  225. 7:47is a massively different level of
  226. 7:50engineering results you can achieve now
  227. 7:52with this architecture. Try to have a
  228. 7:54vibe coder vibe code this, they won't be
  229. 7:55able to. That's why GrokBot, that's why
  230. 7:58dots, that's why Claud's co-work and all
  231. 8:00their infrastructure exists is because
  232. 8:02they're trying to commoditize this for
  233. 8:04the average user and frankly for some
  234. 8:06lazy engineers. That's okay if you're
  235. 8:08one of them. I will say though this is
  236. 8:10technology I highly recommend you own
  237. 8:11because this is going to be a key part
  238. 8:13of what it means to engineer massively
  239. 8:16leveraged results in your favor. Again,
  240. 8:18durable agents persist. This is what
  241. 8:20makes them so powerful. They persist and
  242. 8:22that means that they can ask you things,
  243. 8:24they can survive restarts, and then they
  244. 8:26can get the job done fully. But they
  245. 8:28need to be keeping track of everything
  246. 8:30in a repeat basis. Durable agents
  247. 8:32require memory. Your normal in-the-loop
  248. 8:34agents will not cut it for systems like
  249. 8:36this. Hope that's clear.
  250. 8:42Once you get these up and running they
  251. 8:43become really powerful. So incident
  252. 8:45response agent, this is something we
  253. 8:46covered on the channel. An incident
  254. 8:48comes in, your agents then run a
  255. 8:50clear-cut and available workflow, a
  256. 8:52workflow that you used to run yourself,
  257. 8:54a developer workflow. If you're the
  258. 8:56incident response engineer on call, you
  259. 8:58detect, you investigate, you root cause
  260. 9:00analysis, you fix it, and then you prep
  261. 9:02for review. The difference is now you
  262. 9:04can build a proactive agent inside a
  263. 9:06near-loop system to do this on your
  264. 9:07behalf. And then guess what? You are
  265. 9:09then just the reviewer, you review the
  266. 9:11fix, and then you deploy it. This is not
  267. 9:13pie-in-the-sky information. This is what
  268. 9:15we cover on the channel week after week.
  269. 9:17Here is the real UI that we looked at
  270. 9:19for a mock example of what this system
  271. 9:21looks like. It's a disconnected client
  272. 9:23with streaming events. We're using Jev
  273. 9:25to classify the events, and then our
  274. 9:27on-call agent found the issue, and now
  275. 9:29all you have to do is understand and
  276. 9:30click deploy. I've been talking with
  277. 9:32main engineers. They are actively
  278. 9:34rolling this out right now because the
  279. 9:35value prop is there. Proactive agents
  280. 9:38can give you value right now. This is
  281. 9:40real. This is tangible. Agent work
  282. 9:42through, the AI developer workflow, it
  283. 9:44waits for your approval, and it is using
  284. 9:46Jev to judge every single row. There are
  285. 9:49improvements to be made here. If you're
  286. 9:50not getting 4xx or 5xx HTTP error codes,
  287. 9:54you don't need Jev for that. What you do
  288. 9:55need Jev for is to classify the
  289. 9:57information very, very quickly to
  290. 9:59understand, based on your system, if
  291. 10:01it's an issue or not. Okay, so that's a
  292. 10:02real example. What else? How else can
  293. 10:04you use proactive agents? Last week, we
  294. 10:06covered using Jev to filter out hype, to
  295. 10:09analyze facts, and then to filter in
  296. 10:11signal that we actually care about,
  297. 10:13information you can act on. Many
  298. 10:16engineers, you know, many content
  299. 10:18creators, YouTubers, posters, media,
  300. 10:21they just hand wave and talk about this
  301. 10:23stuff.
  302. 10:24>> [snorts]
  303. 10:24>> I like to hand wave, literally,
  304. 10:26>> [laughter]
  305. 10:26>> and talk about this stuff, but I also
  306. 10:27like to prove it so you can better
  307. 10:29understand what's happening and what's
  308. 10:31possible, so you can go beyond what your
  309. 10:33competition can do, so you can actually
  310. 10:35act on this information. We have done
  311. 10:37this. This UI is real, and I can pull it
  312. 10:39up right now. This is on a sandbox, and
  313. 10:41this was actually on my M-core Mac mini
  314. 10:43right here. If I go to IDD agents, there
  315. 10:45we go. Hit enter here. You can see that
  316. 10:47this is a durable agent that's on all
  317. 10:49the time. It's working for me, and then
  318. 10:51it waits for me. This has been on for a
  319. 10:53week and a half now. I keep it on all
  320. 10:54the time. I'm not going to turn it off
  321. 10:56because it's constantly providing me
  322. 10:57value. I can hop in here, ingest the
  323. 10:59news at light speed. Information is
  324. 11:01getting pulled to me. I'm not getting
  325. 11:02clickbaited into anything because I'm
  326. 11:04normalizing how I want to see the
  327. 11:06information in a non-biased way. Again,
  328. 11:08check out last week's video where we
  329. 11:09covered the durable news agent, but you
  330. 11:11can see, you know, real concrete
  331. 11:12example. This is stuff I'm building
  332. 11:14against right now. This is stuff I am
  333. 11:16working with engineers to build all the
  334. 11:18time. You can see here, Loom cycle
  335. 11:20decision model scores 40 out of 40 on
  336. 11:22prompt injections. Interesting. I'm
  337. 11:24going to upvote that. I'm going to give
  338. 11:25signal to my proactive agent so that it
  339. 11:27continues to prompt me with questions it
  340. 11:30has, and continue to reinforce the data
  341. 11:33flywheel I'm building with this kind of
  342. 11:35micro product. This is a key
  343. 11:36distinction. The best engineers are
  344. 11:38moving from building individual
  345. 11:40engineering agents to really product
  346. 11:42agents that focus on a specific use case
  347. 11:44that outperform the default by miles.
  348. 11:47So, this is one of many near loop
  349. 11:49systems that I'm building aggressively
  350. 11:50right now because again, it's going to
  351. 11:52work for me without me and then I'll
  352. 11:54come in, I'll extract value, I'll give
  353. 11:56feedback and it's going to improve. Real
  354. 11:58concrete result. Let me show you another
  355. 12:00one that I haven't revealed on the
  356. 12:01channel yet. This is new since the Jev
  357. 12:031.14 was released. I'm dropping in UI
  358. 12:07designs, I'm dropping in mock designs
  359. 12:09and then a primitive RSI loop is
  360. 12:11running. It's going to build against the
  361. 12:13mock and compare over and over and over
  362. 12:16until the UI matches the mock design I
  363. 12:18passed in. It looks just like this. Fix
  364. 12:20build screenshot Jev. It uses two or
  365. 12:22more agents optionally. We're just
  366. 12:24looking to pass a similarity threshold
  367. 12:26for the UI, okay? And you know, I can
  368. 12:28show this to you.
  369. 12:30Right? This is real. Called the deep Jev
  370. 12:32UI replicator and you can see here I
  371. 12:34dropped in a screenshot of the phase
  372. 12:36three agentic engineering product I'll
  373. 12:38talk about at the end. You can see it's
  374. 12:40looping, it's hill climbing on this
  375. 12:42objective that I gave it and it's just
  376. 12:44working and working and working. I can
  377. 12:46change the model, I can change the
  378. 12:47comparison agent, I can tweak the core
  379. 12:48four of the system. You can't build
  380. 12:51these systems without understanding the
  381. 12:52core four context model prompt tools.
  382. 12:54We'll talk about that in a second. Key
  383. 12:55skills to know and to learn. Again, a
  384. 12:57lot of channels they just try to
  385. 12:59newsjack. This is real content, real
  386. 13:02ideas that we talk about every week on
  387. 13:03the channel. We are putting these ideas
  388. 13:05into action to generate real value, real
  389. 13:08alpha. Let me show you exactly what I
  390. 13:09mean. Bam, here it is. This is on a
  391. 13:11cloud sandbox, so this is not local
  392. 13:14anywhere, this is in the cloud. You can
  393. 13:15see here I had Astra mirror this UI, it
  394. 13:18got a 86.1 match. I just drag and
  395. 13:21dropped an image in and it looped over
  396. 13:23this. You can see I have another one
  397. 13:24here. Let's go to another example here
  398. 13:26mirroring the phase three landing page.
  399. 13:28You can see slowly he'll climb toward
  400. 13:30this. Got a decent result here after
  401. 13:32iteration three, and then it failed to
  402. 13:34mirror even further. Okay, this was the
  403. 13:36Sonic 5.5, so not bad. But you can see
  404. 13:38here, you know, again, it's a system
  405. 13:40that delivers me concrete results. I can
  406. 13:42come in, ask for something, and then
  407. 13:43leave. I walk away while it works. It
  408. 13:46takes, you know, some 30 minutes for all
  409. 13:48these iterations to run, to basically
  410. 13:50recursively work toward an example.
  411. 13:52These are all big ideas, big themes
  412. 13:54we're talking about on the channel all
  413. 13:56the time, week after week. The next leap
  414. 13:58is here, and I'm going to do my best to
  415. 14:00communicate it to you, the mid senior
  416. 14:02plus level cracked engineer. This is
  417. 14:04where it all leads, these powerful
  418. 14:06systems. Let me make it super clear,
  419. 14:08once again, that these are just clients.
  420. 14:10Like when I connect to the browser, I
  421. 14:11can connect to some of these via my
  422. 14:12terminal or my phone, and they're all
  423. 14:14backed by some sandbox. Because, again,
  424. 14:18proactive agents are always on, they
  425. 14:19don't turn off. Just like when you walk
  426. 14:22away from a session, at the end of the
  427. 14:23day, you close your clo- your code, you
  428. 14:25close your codex, you close your pie,
  429. 14:26it's done. The value you can get when
  430. 14:29you build a system like this is immense.
  431. 14:32There are other new, next level
  432. 14:33problems, you know, next generation, but
  433. 14:36all next emerge, but right now the goal
  434. 14:38is to move from in loop to near loop to
  435. 14:41out loop. And so the sandbox
  436. 14:42architecture is really, really
  437. 14:44important. You do not want your agents
  438. 14:45to be limited [music] by your device.
  439. 14:52Why do we build these durable agents?
  440. 14:54These agents persist on the device. Why
  441. 14:56do we need them? First off, they can be
  442. 14:58proactive. They can start working before
  443. 15:00you show up, before you wake up. They're
  444. 15:01multi-client. Again, browser, terminal,
  445. 15:04phone, anyone, anywhere can connect to
  446. 15:06it. This is really important for
  447. 15:07products. And then, of course,
  448. 15:08multiplayer. You, product, design,
  449. 15:10support, if you build and you give them
  450. 15:12the right tool, they can hop into the
  451. 15:14right agent to get the work done much,
  452. 15:16much faster than they would otherwise.
  453. 15:18Long-running. Durable agents survive
  454. 15:20crashes, they survive restarts, and they
  455. 15:21have to. They have to have this
  456. 15:23property. And then finally, all this
  457. 15:25builds up to the fact that this lets you
  458. 15:27move near the loop. It removes the seat
  459. 15:29from underneath your butt. Okay? You
  460. 15:31don't have to be sitting in the dev
  461. 15:33chair. And this is a big unlock. I hope
  462. 15:36that's clear. So, what are the essential
  463. 15:38skills to learn? It's the essentials.
  464. 15:39Again, this is like our bread and butter
  465. 15:41on the channel. Context model prompt
  466. 15:43tool. This is the measure of how far you
  467. 15:45can move out. You know, we've been
  468. 15:46talking about this for literally years
  469. 15:49on the channel. Context model prompt
  470. 15:50tools. It all comes back to this. The
  471. 15:52agent is made of these four. And you've
  472. 15:54heard of all these skills, you've
  473. 15:55learned and expanded on your abilities.
  474. 15:58Most engineers, most content creators,
  475. 16:00most people talking about agents,
  476. 16:02they're just focused on this. This is a
  477. 16:04lot of the earlier channel videos. We've
  478. 16:06moved up a lot from this stuff.
  479. 16:08Sometimes we jump back in and cover, you
  480. 16:10know, some system prompt engineering or
  481. 16:11some context engineering trick, or maybe
  482. 16:13we'll cover a model if it's interesting
  483. 16:15enough. But really, these are the new
  484. 16:16lower-level primitives. The one that's
  485. 16:18really worth a lot of attention and time
  486. 16:20when you move to the mid and advanced
  487. 16:22levels is really harness engineering.
  488. 16:23Because it starts to move and wrap this
  489. 16:26powerful intelligence in a system that
  490. 16:28can outperform the baseline and do
  491. 16:30really unique things. It's why I
  492. 16:32constantly talk about the Pi coding
  493. 16:33agent and Pi durable. It's because there
  494. 16:36you can really expand and give your
  495. 16:38agents more actions and customize the
  496. 16:41results they can get. Specialization is
  497. 16:44the advantage, and a lot of engineers
  498. 16:46are really noticing this as everyone,
  499. 16:48their mom, their brother, their sister,
  500. 16:49their dad can prompt and build a air
  501. 16:51quote application, right? Or reverse
  502. 16:53engineer anything. The advantage then
  503. 16:55becomes how can you specialize your
  504. 16:57results? How can you build a system that
  505. 17:00can do what others could not do? This is
  506. 17:02where software engineers have a huge
  507. 17:04advantage. That's the big idea.
  508. 17:05Mastering your context engineering, your
  509. 17:07tokenomics for the model you're
  510. 17:08selecting. It needs to be performant
  511. 17:10enough to get the job done, but not so
  512. 17:12expensive that it breaks the bank. These
  513. 17:14insanely subsidized subscriptions will
  514. 17:16not last forever, so understand
  515. 17:18tokenomics. Shout out deep seek. Then of
  516. 17:20course, prompt engineering is how you
  517. 17:23instruct your agent in the first place.
  518. 17:25If you can't write a great system
  519. 17:26prompt, if you're stuck relying on the
  520. 17:28defaults, it's going to be really hard
  521. 17:29for you to move near loop and out loop.
  522. 17:31You must understand both the user prompt
  523. 17:33you pass in all the time and the system
  524. 17:35prompt to change the law for your agent.
  525. 17:37And then of course, the tools, the
  526. 17:38harness. This is a big one and these all
  527. 17:40make up the core four. You must learn
  528. 17:43these skills to transition out the loop.
  529. 17:45Otherwise, you'll be stuck at the lowest
  530. 17:46level because you'll be relying on
  531. 17:48whatever the out of the box cloud code,
  532. 17:50the out of the box codex, the out of the
  533. 17:52box experience of the agent harness, the
  534. 17:54out of the box results that everyone
  535. 17:56else is now receiving. Again, the
  536. 17:58advantage of a single agent in the
  537. 18:00default configuration is completely
  538. 18:02saturated. It's been that way for a
  539. 18:04while now. Everyone's relying on the
  540. 18:05models to improve this. That is just one
  541. 18:08dimension of four that you, the
  542. 18:10engineer, can tap into to multiply your
  543. 18:13leverage. Agentic engineering is
  544. 18:15understanding these four. Your context,
  545. 18:17your tokenomics, your prompt and your
  546. 18:19harness engineering. And the big thing
  547. 18:21that I think the industry is really
  548. 18:23losing their brains over right now and
  549. 18:24viewers of this channel understand
  550. 18:26deeply is that all this is multiplied by
  551. 18:28your software engineering because this
  552. 18:30is what you know. These are the
  553. 18:31questions you can ask. These are the
  554. 18:33architectures you can build. This is the
  555. 18:35expertise you have in your domain that
  556. 18:37you've been building up year after year.
  557. 18:39The value of this cannot be overstated
  558. 18:41now because you can now use the rest of
  559. 18:43these items. You can now use these new
  560. 18:45paradigms to multiply, and I really mean
  561. 18:47multiply what you can do. I know it's so
  562. 18:49cringey just throwing out phrases like
  563. 18:51multiply, exponential, parabolic, but
  564. 18:54it's true. It's factually true. And this
  565. 18:56is available to you because you can use
  566. 18:58these powerful new intelligent tools and
  567. 19:01then apply your knowledge in the context
  568. 19:03and the tokenomics and the prompt and
  569. 19:04the instructions and in your harnesses.
  570. 19:06The gap for engineers truly upskilling
  571. 19:09their agentic engineering has never been
  572. 19:11higher. As I always say, vibe coding is
  573. 19:13the floor, agentic engineering is the
  574. 19:15ceiling. So, what do I mean by this?
  575. 19:17Let's be super concrete. So, you select
  576. 19:19a specific model at the right cost
  577. 19:21performance speed trade-off. You then
  578. 19:23build a custom agent harness using
  579. 19:25whatever SDK you want. I recommend Pi.
  580. 19:27This enables you to start harness
  581. 19:28engineering specific tools to generate
  582. 19:31specific results for your product or
  583. 19:32application. You then realize that your
  584. 19:34agent could start firing off some
  585. 19:36negative commands. So, what do you do?
  586. 19:38You add a Jeff damage control. Maybe you
  587. 19:40get rid of the bash tool entirely
  588. 19:42because you realize how dangerous it is,
  589. 19:44and you just give your agent the exact
  590. 19:45results it wants. This is agentic
  591. 19:48engineering. This is a concrete example
  592. 19:49of you applying your expertise, your
  593. 19:51awareness, your understanding of
  594. 19:52security, of your product, right? What
  595. 19:55your product needs, your understanding
  596. 19:56of model selection, tokenomics, harness
  597. 19:59engineering, you passing in the right
  598. 20:00prompts to this system. These are skills
  599. 20:03that make up agentic engineering. This
  600. 20:05is how you move from in to near to out.
  601. 20:08You build these systems so well, you
  602. 20:10don't have to look at what they're
  603. 20:11doing. That's the key. Again, not to
  604. 20:13flame or rip on all my vibe coders that
  605. 20:15show up, you know, shout out to you
  606. 20:16guys, but vibe coding is not knowing
  607. 20:18what your system does, and it's not
  608. 20:20looking. Agentic engineering is knowing
  609. 20:22what your system does so well, you don't
  610. 20:24have to look. The The difference is
  611. 20:26massive. This is what it looks like. You
  612. 20:28are building the application layer. You
  613. 20:29are prompting your agent. We want to
  614. 20:31move to this new paradigm where you
  615. 20:32build a system that then builds the
  616. 20:34system on your behalf. That's the
  617. 20:36target. This is what it looks like.
  618. 20:37Build a system that builds the system.
  619. 20:39This is the guiding phrase I used for
  620. 20:41tactical agentic coding, the phase two
  621. 20:43product I put out a year ago now, which
  622. 20:45is still relevant, by the way, but the
  623. 20:47third phase is coming, and this single
  624. 20:50phrase still holds true. And so, here's
  625. 20:53the measure of your success now. You can
  626. 20:54use this as a concrete model, a concrete
  627. 20:56framework I'm recommending for
  628. 20:57engineers. This is something I'm
  629. 20:58obsessing over right now. Your measure
  630. 21:00of success is how many agents are
  631. 21:02working for you right now. Right now. In
  632. 21:05this very second.
  633. 21:07Now, obviously, I'm not talking about
  634. 21:09token maxing. Anyone can spin up a while
  635. 21:11loop and have an agent just do random
  636. 21:13I'm talking about useful work that
  637. 21:15you need to get done, and this stuff is
  638. 21:17happening. Right? I'm talking about
  639. 21:18useful work that can multiply your
  640. 21:19abilities in ways that you understand,
  641. 21:21and ways that you might not have
  642. 21:22foreseen yet. I'm talking about products
  643. 21:24that you've built with agents inside
  644. 21:26running for you without you. I'm talking
  645. 21:28about Near Loop and Out Loop. The
  646. 21:30advantage is very clear. You can only
  647. 21:32focus on so much. You can only split
  648. 21:34your attention across so many terminals
  649. 21:36before you lose your mind and lose
  650. 21:38focus, and now all these three threads
  651. 21:40have turned into three threads where you
  652. 21:42have no idea what's going on. And you're
  653. 21:43just trusting the model more and more.
  654. 21:45That is not engineering. Engineering is
  655. 21:47building systems that you reliably know
  656. 21:49what they'll do to get the results
  657. 21:51you're looking for. This is the measure
  658. 21:53now. This is the move from low-leverage
  659. 21:55agentic engineering to more-leverage
  660. 21:57agentic engineering to high-leverage
  661. 22:00agentic engineering. You build the
  662. 22:01system that is built so well, you step
  663. 22:03away because you realize you are the
  664. 22:07bottleneck. The next leap is here. If
  665. 22:08you've been with the channel week after
  666. 22:10week, month after month, you know what's
  667. 22:11coming next. Phase three is the
  668. 22:13deprecation phase. Augment, automate,
  669. 22:15deprecate. This is the three-stage cycle
  670. 22:17of every technological revolution. This
  671. 22:19is where we employ ZTE zero-touch
  672. 22:22engineering. If you've been with the
  673. 22:23channel, you know what I'm going to do
  674. 22:24next. I'm going to pitch
  675. 22:26the next phase three product that I'm
  676. 22:27building right now for advanced
  677. 22:30engineers using agents every single day.
  678. 22:32Link's going to be in the description
  679. 22:33for you. In [music] phase three, we
  680. 22:35focus purely on Out Loop agentic
  681. 22:38engineering. This is the next leap.
  682. 22:40[music] The thing to master is going to
  683. 22:42be all the fundamentals so that you can
  684. 22:43deploy them into these systems that,
  685. 22:45again, work for you without you. Link in
  686. 22:48the description for that. Pre-sale
  687. 22:49starts soon, and throughout pre-sale,
  688. 22:51I'm going to be offering a huge discount
  689. 22:53on the product. And if you are a phase
  690. 22:54two tactical agentic coding member,
  691. 22:56you'll also receive a large discount on
  692. 22:58the product. I'm so, so excited to share
  693. 23:00this with you. It's coming along really,
  694. 23:02really well. What is this transition?
  695. 23:04Why is it so important? We're moving
  696. 23:05from in loop where you prompt to near
  697. 23:07loop where you approve to out loop where
  698. 23:10you observe. This is the key flow. This
  699. 23:12is the progression for agentic engineers
  700. 23:15now. So, how do you actually do it? How
  701. 23:17do you move out the loop? You master the
  702. 23:19core four. You master what makes up the
  703. 23:21agent. You use durable agent to solve
  704. 23:23real problems. This agent keeps running.
  705. 23:25It's looking for triggers. You build
  706. 23:27systems that build systems. This is the
  707. 23:30key thing that software engineers can do
  708. 23:32that no one else can. It's always been
  709. 23:34this way. But now it's clearer than ever
  710. 23:36because the leverage is higher than
  711. 23:37ever. And then, like and subscribe.
  712. 23:40>> [laughter]
  713. 23:40>> Stay connected to valuable information
  714. 23:42to engineers actually doing the thing,
  715. 23:45not just covering the news, not just
  716. 23:46covering the new model release with the
  717. 23:48shock Mr. Beast O face thumbnail.
  718. 23:51>> [laughter and gasps]
  719. 23:51>> Right? Like this is our bread and butter
  720. 23:52on this channel. I've been here 4 years
  721. 23:55covering this week after week every
  722. 23:57single Monday for years now. And guess
  723. 23:59what? I'm going to do it until the end
  724. 24:01with you because this is the most
  725. 24:03incredible opportunity that has ever
  726. 24:05existed for us engineers. Maybe you
  727. 24:07missed the internet revolution. Maybe
  728. 24:08you missed the mobile revolution. Maybe
  729. 24:10you missed social. Maybe you missed
  730. 24:12crypto. You and I are here right now in
  731. 24:14the age of agents. Let's capitalize on
  732. 24:17this. This is what we focus on every
  733. 24:18single week here. Again, like and
  734. 24:20subscribe. Join the journey. Tell the
  735. 24:21algorithm this is signal for you. I've
  736. 24:23got three really important links for you
  737. 24:25in the description. Pre-sign up for the
  738. 24:27phase three product. If you use agents
  739. 24:29every single day, if you understand this
  740. 24:31advantage, if you're an advanced user of
  741. 24:33agents, that's going to be for you. If
  742. 24:35you don't fall into that bucket, I'm
  743. 24:36sorry, this product is not for you. This
  744. 24:38is going to be the most complex course,
  745. 24:40the most complex product for engineers I
  746. 24:41have ever created and the most valuable.
  747. 24:43So, that's linked in the description.
  748. 24:44And then I have previous week's video
  749. 24:45where we talk about and break down two
  750. 24:47real durable agent use cases. You saw us
  751. 24:49cover here, the durable news agent and
  752. 24:51the on-call agent. Over the next month
  753. 24:54leading up to the the
  754. 24:55of the phase three product, I'm going to
  755. 24:57be sharing content directly from the
  756. 24:59phase three products to give you a
  757. 25:00teaser of what's coming next to really
  758. 25:02paint the picture of what you can do and
  759. 25:04what's inside the product so you can
  760. 25:06know what you're getting so that you can
  761. 25:07hop on the discount. I want [music] to
  762. 25:09reward engineers that move fast and
  763. 25:11invest in themselves. So again, link in
  764. 25:14the description for that. It's going to
  765. 25:15be you or your competitors [music] that
  766. 25:17make this leap and I want it to be you.
  767. 25:19Whenever you sit down in the terminal,
  768. 25:20when you put your butt in the seat, I
  769. 25:22want you to really stop and [music] ask
  770. 25:23yourself, "Is there reason I'm still in
  771. 25:26the loop for this work?" And the answer
  772. 25:28should truly only be yes if you are
  773. 25:31building the system that builds the
  774. 25:32[music] system. Comment down below if
  775. 25:34this all makes sense to you. Thanks for
  776. 25:35watching till the end. I'm going to be
  777. 25:36with you here till the end. You know
  778. 25:38where to find me every single Monday.
  779. 25:41Stay focused and keep building.

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