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  1. 0:00To start off, it is important to
  2. 0:02understand what elections are. And an
  3. 0:05election is nothing more than a
  4. 0:07selection process where you, along with
  5. 0:10all other people who have the right to
  6. 0:13choose (called voters), actually go to
  7. 0:15the polls to vote for your
  8. 0:17representatives, who are simply
  9. 0:19candidates intended to represent the
  10. 0:22popular will. Elections can happen
  11. 0:25anywhere, from a student council or a
  12. 0:27condo board, to the presidency of the
  13. 0:30Republic of Brazil. And that is what we
  14. 0:32are discussing here, because we are on
  15. 0:34the eve of an election and we need to
  16. 0:36understand how this process works. In
  17. 0:39the case of Brazil, which is a
  18. 0:41presidential republic, we have the
  19. 0:44highest executive office as the
  20. 0:46President of the Republic, who is not
  21. 0:48only head of state, but also head of
  22. 0:50government. This is different, for
  23. 0:54example, from another country that
  24. 0:56might be a parliamentary republic, that
  25. 0:59is, where the head of state is the
  26. 1:01president, but the head of government
  27. 1:03is the chancellor, the speaker of the
  28. 1:05house, or even the prime minister. In
  29. 1:09the case of Brazil, we have been a
  30. 1:11presidential republic since 1889, when
  31. 1:13the monarchy ended. And we are also a
  32. 1:16republic because we have three clearly
  33. 1:18separated branches of power. We have
  34. 1:21the executive branch, the legislative
  35. 1:23branch, and the judicial branch. As
  36. 1:26voters, we only have the right to
  37. 1:28choose the first two branches, that is,
  38. 1:31the executive and the legislative,
  39. 1:33directly. The judiciary is chosen
  40. 1:36indirectly. Why? Because the
  41. 1:38representatives of the judiciary are
  42. 1:40chosen by those we ourselves elected in
  43. 1:43the legislative or the executive
  44. 1:45branches. Elections, it is important to
  45. 1:48emphasize, are the most beautiful and
  46. 1:50pure form of exercising democracy.
  47. 1:53Remembering that in a democracy there
  48. 1:55are elections, meaning there is the
  49. 1:57popular choice of your representatives,
  50. 1:59the representatives of the people. In
  51. 2:02flawed democracies or autocracies,
  52. 2:04there are either no elections, or the
  53. 2:07elections are conducted in a less than
  54. 2:09transparent way. I guarantee you that
  55. 2:11this is not the case in Brazil,
  56. 2:13fortunately, at least for now. And we
  57. 2:15also have direct elections in Brazil.
  58. 2:18Why? Because they can also be indirect,
  59. 2:21as is the case in the United States,
  60. 2:22right? In the case of Brazil, we choose
  61. 2:25our candidates and our representatives
  62. 2:27directly, while in the United States,
  63. 2:28it is not quite like that. Since the
  64. 2:31case of the United States is much more
  65. 2:33complex than ours, we won't talk about
  66. 2:35it, but if you want to know more about
  67. 2:37it, just leave a little comment there
  68. 2:38and we can make a video about it. Yes.
  69. 2:42In Brazil, voting is mandatory. This is
  70. 2:45to ensure the greatest possible popular
  71. 2:47participation. And it is mandatory from
  72. 2:50age 18 to 70. If a person is 17, they
  73. 2:54may or may not vote; in other words,
  74. 2:56they can choose if they want to vote.
  75. 3:01But to vote, you must always be
  76. 3:03registered with the Electoral Court;
  77. 3:05that is, you must have a document, the
  78. 3:08voter registration card, without which
  79. 3:10you cannot vote. It is important to
  80. 3:14emphasize that Brazil is a huge country
  81. 3:17, both in terms of territory, with over
  82. 3:208.5 million square kilometers, and
  83. 3:22population, with over 210 million
  84. 3:24inhabitants. So, it is to be expected
  85. 3:27that the elections are as robust as
  86. 3:30this enormous, wonderful country. To
  87. 3:33give you an idea, there are over 156
  88. 3:36million registered voters for the 2022
  89. 3:39elections, who will use over 577,000
  90. 3:42electronic ballot boxes to exercise
  91. 3:45their popular will. After all, there
  92. 3:50are over 28,000 candidates for
  93. 3:52president, senator, state deputy,
  94. 3:54federal deputy, and governor. And all
  95. 3:58of this is not free. After all, it
  96. 4:00involves a lot of people, a lot of
  97. 4:02infrastructure, and a lot of money. To
  98. 4:05give you an idea, there is nearly 5
  99. 4:07billion Brazilian reais just in public
  100. 4:09funding, not counting private funding
  101. 4:12from individuals who help finance the
  102. 4:14campaigns of all these candidates. And
  103. 4:18all this money, the nearly 5 billion
  104. 4:20reais in public funding, is divided
  105. 4:22among no less than 32 political parties
  106. 4:25. As you can see, it is a large volume
  107. 4:28of money used to fund the electoral
  108. 4:30process in Brazil. And this process is
  109. 4:33financed with both public and private
  110. 4:35money. Why does public money come in,
  111. 4:38and it's not a small amount of public
  112. 4:39money? This public money comes in
  113. 4:42precisely because that way we can
  114. 4:44better exercise democracy. After all,
  115. 4:47democracy costs money, and therefore,
  116. 4:49it gives candidates a better chance to
  117. 4:52share their proposals with as many
  118. 4:54people as possible. If we didn't have
  119. 4:57public funding, we would rely solely on
  120. 4:59private funding, which would favor the
  121. 5:01candidates who have the most money.
  122. 5:04Imagine, we would cease to be a
  123. 5:06democracy and become a plutocracy,
  124. 5:08which is when the wealthiest are the
  125. 5:10ones in charge. That's right.
  126. 5:13Furthermore, we must remember that this
  127. 5:15electoral process also relies on
  128. 5:17private money, but that private money
  129. 5:19can only come from the pockets of
  130. 5:21individuals, although in the recent
  131. 5:24past, corporations could also
  132. 5:25contribute. The problem is that legal
  133. 5:28entities, companies, don't vote, and
  134. 5:30therefore, if they contribute, they
  135. 5:32will contribute with some interest. And
  136. 5:34this interest can be illicit, meaning
  137. 5:37it can be contrary to the popular will.
  138. 5:39That is why it was recently prohibited,
  139. 5:42meaning companies can no longer
  140. 5:44contribute to the electoral process. In
  141. 5:47the legislative branch, you will vote
  142. 5:50for candidates for state deputy,
  143. 5:52federal deputy, and senator. Terms of
  144. 5:55office, except for senator, last 4
  145. 5:57years. In other words, you choose these
  146. 6:00state and federal deputies every 4
  147. 6:02years and you choose one or two
  148. 6:05senators every 4 years, because their
  149. 6:07term is 8 years and, therefore, every 4
  150. 6:10years you have the rotation of one or
  151. 6:12two senators. This year, only one
  152. 6:14senator is being chosen by the voters
  153. 6:17in each state. By the way, there are a
  154. 6:20total of 513 federal deputies who will
  155. 6:23be chosen proportionally to the
  156. 6:25population of each state, with a
  157. 6:27minimum of eight deputies for the least
  158. 6:30populous states and 70 for the most
  159. 6:32populous. In the case of senators, we
  160. 6:36have 81 senators, 81 seats in total,
  161. 6:38and each state has the right to a fixed
  162. 6:41number, which is three senators.
  163. 6:45Federal deputies will represent the
  164. 6:47will of their state from a popular
  165. 6:49perspective, while senators will
  166. 6:51represent the will of the state from a
  167. 6:53territorial perspective. And then you
  168. 6:57also have the state deputies. This
  169. 7:00varies for each of the states, but is
  170. 7:02always a number proportional to the
  171. 7:04population of those states as well. In
  172. 7:07other words, state legislative
  173. 7:09assemblies will have varying numbers of
  174. 7:12seats for state deputies. That depends
  175. 7:14on each of the states. Therefore, it is
  176. 7:17also important to remember that votes
  177. 7:19for the legislature, the elections for
  178. 7:21the legislature, are calculated
  179. 7:23proportionally. All this to make
  180. 7:25elections more transparent, fairer. And
  181. 7:28more representative of the popular will
  182. 7:31. We manage to conduct this
  183. 7:33proportional election by calculating an
  184. 7:35electoral quotient, which is nothing
  185. 7:38more than dividing the total number of
  186. 7:40valid votes by the number of seats for
  187. 7:42that specific office. For example, if
  188. 7:46we are calculating the electoral
  189. 7:48quotient for federal deputies, we will
  190. 7:50take the total number of valid votes
  191. 7:52for all federal deputies and divide it
  192. 7:54by 513, which is the number of seats
  193. 7:56that the office of federal deputy has.
  194. 7:59Then we will arrive at a number X that
  195. 8:01changes every election. Taking this
  196. 8:03number, we will divide the total number
  197. 8:06of votes that a party or coalition has
  198. 8:08by this number, which is the electoral
  199. 8:11quotient. With this division, we arrive
  200. 8:14at the party quotient, that is, the
  201. 8:16minimum number of votes a party needs
  202. 8:18to have to hold a seat in the office
  203. 8:20being analyzed. For example, that of a
  204. 8:23federal deputy. If we have a number X
  205. 8:26of votes as the party quotient and the
  206. 8:28specific party we are analyzing has 4x
  207. 8:31votes, it will be entitled to four
  208. 8:33seats in that office. In this office,
  209. 8:36in this case, the office of federal
  210. 8:38deputy. And then it will distribute
  211. 8:40these four seats among the four
  212. 8:42candidates with the most votes. It is
  213. 8:45also important to say that this applies
  214. 8:47to state and federal deputies, but it
  215. 8:48does not apply to senators, especially
  216. 8:50because the number of senators is fixed
  217. 8:52per state. It is a number of three
  218. 8:55senators. In this case, for this
  219. 8:57election, we will only choose one of
  220. 8:58these three senators. And, therefore,
  221. 9:00the elections will not be proportional
  222. 9:02for the Senate, but rather for state
  223. 9:04and federal deputies. One of the
  224. 9:07problems of the proportional system is
  225. 9:09that of vote pullers, who are very
  226. 9:11popular people who tend to receive many
  227. 9:14more votes than the party quotient
  228. 9:16requires. Since all votes for a party's
  229. 9:20candidate go to the party, it then
  230. 9:22divides the number of seats it will
  231. 9:24have among the most voted candidates.
  232. 9:28If one candidate receives many votes
  233. 9:30and the runner-up receives few votes,
  234. 9:33but in total the party is entitled to
  235. 9:35two or three seats, it may end up
  236. 9:37electing two or three people who are
  237. 9:39not very popular and did not receive
  238. 9:41many votes. All because one person from
  239. 9:45the party received so many votes that
  240. 9:47they can be distributed to less voted
  241. 9:50people. This is a distortion of the
  242. 9:52system that ends up attracting many
  243. 9:54popular people to some specific parties
  244. 9:56. A state or federal deputy basically
  245. 10:00has the same functions. They are a
  246. 10:02legislator and an overseer. They
  247. 10:06legislate when they create law
  248. 10:08proposals or vote on law proposals that
  249. 10:10can become part of the state or
  250. 10:12country's legal system. And they will
  251. 10:17also oversee the application of the
  252. 10:19federal or state budget. It is
  253. 10:22important for us to understand that no
  254. 10:24decision is taken individually in the
  255. 10:26legislature, that is, they are
  256. 10:27negotiations that sometimes drag on for
  257. 10:30months so that a bill or a budget
  258. 10:31proposal is approved. Furthermore, we
  259. 10:35have to understand that as they are
  260. 10:37voting on laws or overseeing the budget
  261. 10:39, they are representing the popular
  262. 10:41will, because it was the popular will
  263. 10:43that put them there. Another important
  264. 10:48role of state or federal deputies is
  265. 10:50the oversight of the governor or the
  266. 10:52president, respectively. Look at how
  267. 10:55many important things a legislator has
  268. 10:57to do. And at the end of the day, we
  269. 10:59end up voting and don't even remember
  270. 11:01who we voted for in a legislative
  271. 11:02position, right? Senators, on the other
  272. 11:05hand, act as reviewers for the Chamber.
  273. 11:08The Chamber and the Senate together
  274. 11:11form the Congress and work in synergy.
  275. 11:15Beyond their role in reviewing what the
  276. 11:18Chamber decides, senators also
  277. 11:20represent not the popular will itself,
  278. 11:23but the interests of the states they
  279. 11:26represent. Remember I mentioned there
  280. 11:29are three senators for each state? Well
  281. 11:31, it's a fixed number, and each of
  282. 11:32those three senators from each state
  283. 11:34represents the state's interests
  284. 11:36collectively, rather than the interests
  285. 11:38of their own voters. In other words,
  286. 11:42while federal or state deputies may
  287. 11:44defend the agendas of the group of
  288. 11:46individuals who voted for them,
  289. 11:48senators must defend the collective
  290. 11:50interest of the state they represent.
  291. 11:53Furthermore, the Senate is considered
  292. 11:55the upper house of Congress, while the
  293. 11:57Chamber is considered the lower house
  294. 11:59of Congress. Since the Chamber of
  295. 12:02Deputies represents the popular will,
  296. 12:05the Speaker of the Chamber is third in
  297. 12:07the presidential line of succession.
  298. 12:11That is, if the president and
  299. 12:13vice-president cannot govern, even
  300. 12:15temporarily, the Speaker of the Chamber
  301. 12:17is the first to take over. The
  302. 12:20Brazilian electoral system is quite
  303. 12:22complex and has a number of distortions
  304. 12:24. Perhaps the main one is the huge
  305. 12:27number of blank and null votes, that is
  306. 12:29, invalid votes. This is because, let's
  307. 12:32remember, voting is mandatory for those
  308. 12:34between 18 and 70 years old. Many
  309. 12:38individuals have no desire to vote, but
  310. 12:40are forced to because if they don't,
  311. 12:42they have to justify it, pay fines, and
  312. 12:44fulfill a series of rituals required by
  313. 12:47the electoral justice, so they end up
  314. 12:49nullifying their vote or leaving it
  315. 12:51blank. This makes predicting the number
  316. 12:55of voters very difficult, precisely
  317. 12:57because we have over 150 million voters
  318. 12:59, but we don't know how many will
  319. 13:01actually result in valid votes. For
  320. 13:04that very reason, the party quotient is
  321. 13:07different in every election. Another
  322. 13:09issue is the lack of motivation to vote
  323. 13:11. One reason is that it is mandatory.
  324. 13:13And two, because people understand very
  325. 13:15little of the whole process. They do
  326. 13:17not properly understand how voting is
  327. 13:20proportional, how that proportionality
  328. 13:23is calculated, and therefore, they feel
  329. 13:25no desire to fulfill their obligation
  330. 13:28and their right to vote. And a third
  331. 13:31important issue is people's lack of
  332. 13:33partisan political identity, precisely
  333. 13:36because they perceive that we have too
  334. 13:38many parties—32 in total—and they
  335. 13:41are very similar in their ideologies,
  336. 13:43therefore they end up not adequately
  337. 13:46representing the popular will. Yeah,
  338. 13:49it's a system as complex as this
  339. 13:51country itself. We also cannot forget
  340. 13:54the executive elections, which in this
  341. 13:57year of 2022 will choose
  342. 13:58representatives for president and state
  343. 14:01governor. These elections also happen
  344. 14:05every 4 years, which is the term length
  345. 14:07for executive representatives, and they
  346. 14:10are decided by majority vote, meaning,
  347. 14:12obviously, whoever gets the most votes
  348. 14:15wins. By the way, it's important to say
  349. 14:19that for almost all executive positions
  350. 14:21, we will always have two rounds,
  351. 14:23meaning there are two rounds of voting.
  352. 14:27In one, all candidates compete, and in
  353. 14:29the second round, that is, the runoff,
  354. 14:31only the two most voted candidates will
  355. 14:34compete for the popular vote. And then
  356. 14:37we will have the definitive choice at
  357. 14:39the end of the second round. It is also
  358. 14:42important to say that for executive
  359. 14:45office, it is always possible to run
  360. 14:47for reelection, meaning the individual
  361. 14:50who is governing can run for a new 4-
  362. 14:53year term in office. After being
  363. 14:56reelected, they cannot run for a third
  364. 14:59consecutive term, but if they wait for
  365. 15:01one term, they can run for two more
  366. 15:03consecutive terms, if that's the case.
  367. 15:06The office of President of the Republic
  368. 15:08is the highest position in Brazilian
  369. 15:10politics. This is because they will be
  370. 15:12the head of the executive branch. And
  371. 15:14in the case of a presidential republic
  372. 15:16like Brazil's, they will occupy two
  373. 15:18important roles: head of government and
  374. 15:20head of state. As head of government,
  375. 15:25they will be responsible for
  376. 15:27implementing public policies, whether
  377. 15:29directly by themselves, presenting
  378. 15:31bills, or through their ministers, who
  379. 15:33are nothing less than representatives
  380. 15:35of their own will in each of the
  381. 15:37respective areas where the ministries
  382. 15:40operate, for example: health or
  383. 15:42education. Furthermore, the president
  384. 15:45also has the power to veto or sanction
  385. 15:47laws. In practice, it is the
  386. 15:49tie-breaking vote. When Congress passes
  387. 15:51a law, the final say is always with the
  388. 15:54President of the Republic. And so they
  389. 15:56can approve or reject this law
  390. 15:58partially. Of course, if they reject a
  391. 16:02law, it goes back to Congress, and if
  392. 16:04Congress really wants to pass that law,
  393. 16:06they can pass it again, and the second
  394. 16:08time it doesn't go through the
  395. 16:09president's hands; it's approved
  396. 16:11immediately. But that is a very
  397. 16:13difficult situation. Including as head
  398. 16:16of state, however, the president has
  399. 16:18the role of representing the nation
  400. 16:20before the international community. And
  401. 16:24here I include the nation's visits to
  402. 16:26other heads of state, the visits of
  403. 16:28other heads of state to the nation—
  404. 16:30meaning the president acts as host to
  405. 16:32other heads of state—or even
  406. 16:34representation at the United Nations.
  407. 16:37In fact, it is the president who gives
  408. 16:39the speech at the United Nations
  409. 16:41General Assembly. Look at how many
  410. 16:43important things. That is why it is
  411. 16:46important that we choose wisely who
  412. 16:48will represent us in all these matters.
  413. 16:51Presidents and governors may run for
  414. 16:53reelection, always with a maximum of
  415. 16:56two consecutive terms, unlike
  416. 16:58legislative candidates, who can be
  417. 17:01reelected indefinitely as long as they
  418. 17:04have popular support. Now, this all
  419. 17:07leads us to think about the advantage
  420. 17:10that someone who holds a current office
  421. 17:13has over someone who does not hold that
  422. 17:16office. This advantage is what we call
  423. 17:18the advantage of using the public
  424. 17:20machinery. Why? Because those in an
  425. 17:23elected office have access to the
  426. 17:25budget, and with access to the public
  427. 17:27budget, they can direct it to please as
  428. 17:29many voters as possible. In other words
  429. 17:32, they will have more of an advantage
  430. 17:34than those who are not yet in an
  431. 17:36elected office and, therefore, can also
  432. 17:38distort the electoral process. It is
  433. 17:41important for us to note this because
  434. 17:43many candidates currently holding
  435. 17:46elected offices will make use of this
  436. 17:48mechanism precisely to temporarily
  437. 17:50please their potential voters. In
  438. 17:54Brazil, we know, we cast our votes
  439. 17:56using electronic voting machines, which
  440. 17:59shouldn't have all the controversy that
  441. 18:01they carry. After all, this controversy
  442. 18:04is not justified by logic. Electronic
  443. 18:07voting machines are just an electronic
  444. 18:09way of counting votes, and that is why
  445. 18:11they are perfectly secure. After all,
  446. 18:14it is not just Brazil that uses
  447. 18:16electronic voting machines. In fact, we
  448. 18:18have more than 20 countries, including
  449. 18:20Canada, the United States, India, and
  450. 18:23even France, using electronic voting
  451. 18:25machines as well. In the case of Brazil
  452. 18:28, electronic voting machines have been
  453. 18:30used since 1996, and today practically
  454. 18:31every election will always use
  455. 18:33electronic voting machines. Except in
  456. 18:36the event of some failure. Remembering
  457. 18:38that it is much harder to rig votes in
  458. 18:40an electronic voting machine than in a
  459. 18:42paper ballot box. After all, anyone can
  460. 18:44put extra votes into a ballot box if
  461. 18:46they have access to it, in a paper
  462. 18:48ballot box. Now, with an electronic
  463. 18:50voting machine, you would need enormous
  464. 18:52sophistication. This sophistication is
  465. 18:54increased when you consider that all
  466. 18:56Brazilian electronic voting machines
  467. 18:58are disconnected from each other and
  468. 19:00also disconnected from the internet. In
  469. 19:02other words, it is not possible for you
  470. 19:04to carry out a collective hack of the
  471. 19:06machines. If it were possible to hack
  472. 19:08the ballot boxes, you would have to
  473. 19:10hack them one by one, which would be
  474. 19:12humanly impossible to rig an election
  475. 19:15on a large scale. Another important
  476. 19:17thing is that the votes are indeed
  477. 19:19auditable; in other words, you can get
  478. 19:21the individual result of each ballot
  479. 19:23box without having to do anything,
  480. 19:24without needing to go to a dark room at
  481. 19:26the TSE or anything like that. All
  482. 19:29ballot boxes have their individual
  483. 19:31results published on the TSE website
  484. 19:34itself after the election. And you can
  485. 19:37go there and, if you want, add up all
  486. 19:39of the more than 577,000 ballot boxes
  487. 19:42to reach the final vote tally.
  488. 19:44Therefore, electronic ballot boxes are
  489. 19:46perfectly secure, and it is not by
  490. 19:47chance that we have been using them for
  491. 19:49so long with such success. All this
  492. 19:51hearsay and false information about
  493. 19:53electronic ballot boxes is part of a
  494. 19:56larger package that we call fake news.
  495. 19:59Fake news is not a problem exclusive to
  496. 20:01Brazil. In fact, it doesn't even start
  497. 20:03here. It starts abroad, probably in the
  498. 20:06United States, and today it plagues a
  499. 20:07large part of the democratic process
  500. 20:09around the world. It wouldn't be any
  501. 20:11different here in the case of Brazil.
  502. 20:12And it's not just in these elections
  503. 20:14that we have been facing fake news. For
  504. 20:16some years now, we have seen fake news
  505. 20:18spreading, especially now that many
  506. 20:20people have access to mobile internet
  507. 20:22and, therefore, to information in real
  508. 20:25time, in a fast way. And, therefore, we
  509. 20:28will have much more exposure to this
  510. 20:30fake news. Fake news can be used to
  511. 20:34damage a candidate's image or to
  512. 20:36enhance a candidate's image, but always
  513. 20:38with lies. And it is important that we
  514. 20:41try to understand what is and what is
  515. 20:44not fake news. For this, it is
  516. 20:45important that you research, that you
  517. 20:47never trust information that comes from
  518. 20:50people, from individuals who may have
  519. 20:52an interest in changing your vote.
  520. 20:54Therefore, always double-check the
  521. 20:56information; in other words, receive
  522. 20:58the information, yes, but check it
  523. 21:01later on websites or even in specific
  524. 21:03places dedicated to debunking fake news
  525. 21:05. One of the easiest ways to do this is
  526. 21:09to verify suspicious news using Google.
  527. 21:12You type a snippet of the news into
  528. 21:14Google and check if there is already
  529. 21:16any fake news debunking site trying to
  530. 21:18identify it as a rumor, as a false
  531. 21:20story. It is important for you to
  532. 21:23understand that this is part of the
  533. 21:25process of exercising democracy and
  534. 21:26citizenship. In other words, fighting
  535. 21:28fake news is also an obligation for all
  536. 21:30of us. In fact, if you fight fake news,
  537. 21:34you are not only exercising your
  538. 21:36citizenship and exercising democracy,
  539. 21:38but you are also making life easier for
  540. 21:39the electoral justice system, which is
  541. 21:41responsible for organizing the entire
  542. 21:43electoral process in Brazil. It is
  543. 21:46responsible for everything from voter
  544. 21:48registration to the certification of
  545. 21:51election results. And it is also, as
  546. 21:53could be expected, under attack from
  547. 21:55fake news. Therefore, combating fake
  548. 21:58news is not only about making life
  549. 22:00easier for the electoral justice system
  550. 22:02, but also exercising democracy and
  551. 22:04citizenship, so we can have peaceful,
  552. 22:06secure, reliable, and transparent
  553. 22:08elections. That's it. I hope you used
  554. 22:11this lesson to better understand how
  555. 22:13Brazil's electoral system works, which
  556. 22:15is certainly not easy, it is quite
  557. 22:17complex. And if you are going to vote,
  558. 22:20I hope you do so with a clear
  559. 22:21conscience, especially since we learned
  560. 22:23the hard way that things can always get
  561. 22:25worse than they already are. Hmm. M.

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