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0:00I'm very excited to say hello to our
0:02next guest. We keep the train rolling
0:03along from Brandon Royville to Bruce
0:05Buffer to uh one of our favorites who
0:08we've talked to and about for so many
0:10years and uh I really appreciate him
0:12coming on on this Tuesday afternoon. A
0:14very busy man. So without further ado,
0:16let us say hello to El Diamante himself,
0:18Dustin Porier, who's kind enough to join
0:20us right here and now on the program.
0:22Hello Dustin. How are you my man?
0:24>> What's up Ariel?
0:25>> It's good to see you again. It's really
0:27good to see you. how sometimes we say
0:29how are you and that's just a a sort of
0:32throwaway but I would be long if I don't
0:34say there's there's meaning behind this
0:36particular how are you and so I think a
0:38lot of people want to know how are you
0:39Dustin
0:42>> that's a good one I like that
0:49>> uh man I'm good bro good bro constantly
0:51working on myself staying busy and first
0:54off I want to apologize for calling in
0:56with these wired headphones So, Samsung
0:59sent me these dope
1:01that work awesome uh earbuds, but I've
1:04been traveling and yesterday I got
1:05caught up in the airport. Had to drive 6
1:07and 1/2 hours home from Dallas, Texas.
1:10And I don't know where they're at.
1:11They're in my backpack or they're in my
1:12my luggage. I can't find them. But we
1:15made it.
1:16>> We did make it and I appreciate that. It
1:18I don't know if the audio is coming from
1:20the computer or the headphones, but it
1:22sounds like you're super far away for
1:23some reason.
1:26>> I don't know. It should be coming in
1:27from from this.
1:28>> Is it coming in from that, Frank?
1:32>> You might be better taking them out.
1:34Unless you don't want to take them out.
1:36>> No, I don't I don't care. I can't find
1:38my good Samsung.
1:39>> Can we try with it out in my office?
1:41Yeah. Yeah, I'll unplug.
1:42>> Okay, let's see. Let's see.
1:46We're going to work through.
1:47>> How about this?
1:48>> Oh, yeah. This is better. Can Can you
1:50keep just say hello to me?
1:52>> Hello. 1 2 3 4 5.
1:54>> Much better. infinitely better.
1:57>> All right, I'm good, man.
1:58>> Okay. All right. Um, cool. That you do
2:01the show on on Mondays uh for Paramount.
2:04Um, Deep Waters, I do believe it's
2:06called, right?
2:08>> Yeah, Deep Waters every Monday, but we
2:10do it from Fort Lauderdale, the
2:11Paramount CBS studio. They have So, I
2:14have to fly every Sunday night,
2:18sleep at a hotel on Sunday, wake up, do
2:20the show, and fly home Monday after the
2:22show. But yesterday, my flight got
2:24delayed leaving Florida.
2:26And uh actually a bunch of flights got
2:29delayed. So they switched me to a
2:31different airline and I flew to Dallas,
2:32Texas, but I was delayed just enough to
2:35miss my connection, which was the last
2:37flight coming into Lafayette, Louisiana.
2:39Oh god.
2:39>> So I just rented a car in Dallas and
2:41drove 6 and 1 half hours, dude. I made
2:43it home at 6:00 a.m. this morning.
2:45>> Oh my gosh. And you're still here. You
2:47could have canceled on me.
2:48>> Road Warrior.
2:49>> Nah, bro. Of course.
2:50>> I appreciate that. I appreciate that
2:52very much. But you have to fly there
2:54every week now. Is that sustainable? Is
2:55that not tiring?
2:58>> I mean, it's all good. Uh I love the
3:01guys who I do it with and uh No, it
3:04keeps it keeps me busy. Um
3:08but when stuff like this happens, it
3:09really sucks. You know, this is the
3:10second time that I've had travel
3:13problems uh flying in and out for the
3:16show.
3:16>> So, I think a lot of fans are are very
3:18happy to see you back in studio for the
3:20program. uh because you know when when
3:23you first came out after the incident
3:24that happened at the airport, we weren't
3:26sure like you know I think you even
3:27expressed this as well in your first bit
3:29of media um if you would still get to do
3:31that type of work and so it seems like
3:32all is okay that you're still going to
3:34be an analyst and still be able to work
3:35the events.
3:38As of right now, um, Gameamra's fighting
3:41at the apex that I was already scheduled
3:44to to work the desk, I think August 8th.
3:48You know, he's got a tough fight and
3:49Gamro's a good buddy of mine, longtime
3:51training partner, so I was supposed to
3:53work that one. We'll see, man. Yeah, it
3:54was all up in the air. I honestly, dude,
3:56after the whole incident, I was like, I
3:58just set on fire everything I've been
4:00working on, you know?
4:03And it's crazy, too, cuz Michael Tucker,
4:06who's doing him and his wife are doing
4:08my documentary coming out beginning of
4:09next year, u he called me and told me uh
4:14during a scene that he filmed when we
4:16were riding in my car driving around
4:18Lafayette, Louisiana, I said, "How am I
4:20going to sabotage myself? How am I going
4:22to get in my own way?" He's like, "I I
4:25felt it coming." And uh he called me and
4:29told me that. But everything's good,
4:30man. and I'm working on myself day in
4:33day out and it's a thing that's never
4:35fixed. You know, I've been dealing with
4:37mental stuff and for for years, you
4:39know, and I've been open on your show
4:40before in the past in the past few years
4:43about my struggles and stuff like that,
4:45but I'm doing everything I need to do. I
4:47have a great support system and I'm I'm
4:49good. Me and my family are good.
4:51Everything's everything's good on my
4:52side.
4:53>> When Michael told you that, was that was
4:56the reaction like, "Yeah, I know." Or
4:58did it hit you like a ton of bricks?
4:59Like did you did you say like, "Oh,
5:01subconsciously I've been saying this,
5:03but I didn't quite realize what I was
5:05doing."
5:07>> Yeah, subconsciously I was saying it and
5:10and I don't even remember telling him
5:11that when we're riding my car, but I
5:13said, according to him, I said, "I
5:16wonder what I'm going to do to sabotage
5:17myself now that I'm done fighting, you
5:20and
5:21partially I did. But um you know, things
5:25happen, we live, we grow,
5:28and it's something that that happened
5:29that's going to change my life. I know I
5:31said this a few times on different
5:32shows, but it's something that maybe it
5:34needed to happen. You know, now my son,
5:36my daughter is never going to see me
5:37intoxicated like I saw my father, you
5:39know, it's just they're breaking a
5:42breaking a family curse and I'm going to
5:44be the one to to to break it. It stops
5:46here. And uh it's just things happen in
5:48life and when you get past them,
5:50hindsight's always 2020. But life is
5:52good, man.
5:54>> You know, the word sabotage to me when I
5:55think of it, it's almost like a
5:56self-inflicted thing. Do you believe it
5:59was self-inflicted or do you believe
6:01that it's just like you were sort of
6:03unsure about where life would take you
6:05and that something would happen
6:06eventually and you were afraid of that?
6:10Uh,
6:12I think it it's
6:14subconsciously I knew without my full
6:18attention and my all my energy focused
6:21on something like fighting something
6:22that takes all of yourself
6:25that and I've said this a bunch of
6:27times, you know, idle hands. When I'm
6:29when I have
6:31too much time on my hands, I'm a danger.
6:33You know, I've said this for years. I
6:34drink too much. I overthink all types of
6:37things. But I got another therapy
6:39session tomorrow and things are good,
6:40bro. Life's good. I'm living learning.
6:42It's my first time living life and I
6:44take these things and and learn from
6:46them just like I did in my fighting
6:47career.
6:49>> Have you ever done therapy before?
6:52>> Yeah.
6:52>> Okay.
6:53>> Yeah. But but maybe three years ago, I
6:57was going pretty regularly and then once
7:00I started to feel better, I stopped
7:02going. But that's not how this works.
7:03you know, it's going to resurface years
7:06down the line or things will pop up and
7:09make me feel a certain way and and pull
7:10me back to that darkness. So, uh I I
7:13don't believe it's something that's ever
7:15fixed. There's no Eureka moment. There's
7:16no magic peel. There's no one day you
7:19wake up and the mental hurdles are gone.
7:22It's just it's it's something you have
7:24to live with and work on every day.
7:26every single day I have to read and
7:29write and do the things that I learned
7:31through therapy that made me feel
7:33better, that helped me control my
7:34thoughts. You know, I just got away from
7:36it once I started feeling well mentally.
7:39I thought I was good and I just continue
7:40living life. But after going through the
7:44ups and downs, you know, it's it's
7:47something I realized that it's going to
7:48be a lifelong battle. You know,
7:52>> that that's a really interesting
7:53sentiment because uh I think we've
7:55talked about this. cuz I too have done
7:56therapy twice and I always get to a
7:58point where I'm like I'm good and I stop
8:00and then I come back and then I go back
8:03to it. And so I'm wondering if now you
8:05think this is just life. Like maybe just
8:08like working out, just like breathing,
8:10it's just better off even when things
8:11seem perfect to just keep doing it,
8:15>> right? It's it's to mirror it to
8:17fighting, dude.
8:20You go to the gym every day for years.
8:22You figure out things. You know, you're
8:24dangerous in every position. You go on a
8:26on a win streak. You win five fights in
8:28a row. You don't stop going to the gym
8:30because you know how to fight. Because
8:31you you feel like you can win. You know,
8:33you have to go to the gym every day. You
8:34have to put in the work. You have to
8:35bleed. You have to sweat. You have to
8:37push yourself. Same thing with mental
8:39health, man. There's never a day where
8:40everything just clicks and you're
8:41healed. You know, you have to work on
8:43yourself every day and keep reminding
8:46yourself of the things you've learned
8:47through therapy, through whatever you're
8:49going through. You know, you have to
8:50apply it every day. So, I'm reading,
8:52writing every morning, waking up early.
8:55Uh, and my wife's holding me
8:56accountable, you know, just tightening
8:59up everything that I can do uh for
9:01myself and my family and my mental.
9:03>> Um, last week we were doing a bunch of
9:05shows in Vegas, and I wanted to ask you
9:07about something that happened last year
9:08because I spoke to John Wood, uh, the uh
9:11the head coach over at Syndicate MMA in
9:13Las Vegas, and we were talking about
9:14like retirement and life after
9:16retirement for fighters and what it's
9:18like and whatnot. And uh he said
9:20something that stuck with me and and I
9:22obviously related it to you and I'm
9:23curious what you think about it. He said
9:26that he urges his fighters never to
9:28retire, never to say the word because he
9:30feels like that becomes such an intense
9:33pressure on their shoulders and they
9:34feel like they can never go back. They
9:36can never change their mind. That's it.
9:37It's final and it becomes depressing for
9:39them. It becomes just very heavy. You
9:42had one of the most celebrated and
9:43beautiful retirements in the history of
9:44the sport. But it felt so final because
9:47everything was surrounded around you. I
9:48know you don't regret that, but in
9:50retrospect, do you feel like that became
9:52like a heavy burden because you thought
9:54to yourself, "That's it. It's over. And
9:56now what am I going to do with myself?"
10:02>> I'd have to really sit down and think
10:03about it to to give you the cleanest,
10:06clearest answer, but a bit a piece of me
10:09does. You know, I felt like we
10:13for 20 years I chased this dream and and
10:15that day in New Orleans when I was
10:17celebrated and you know, we buried we
10:19buried that man. You know, I'm not one
10:21of these guys that that probably are
10:22going to come back. You know, in mixed
10:24martial arts, we see it all the time.
10:25Guys lay the gloves down and then 3
10:26months later they're boxing or they're
10:28doing something. I don't think, you
10:30know, I'm like 90% sure, 95% sure that
10:34I'm never going to fight again. Um,
10:38no. I I appreciate the city, the the
10:40company, the the organization,
10:42everything. Everybody who came out and
10:43made that so special for me. Little
10:45Wayne walking with me to the octagon. It
10:47was a special night, you know. I think
10:49it was done done right. And uh,
10:53but yeah, I laid a piece of myself to
10:54rest that day. So you understand the
10:57sentiment that that word and and and and
10:59just saying it, announcing it,
11:02>> it's hard for fighters on the back end
11:03of that.
11:08>> Yeah. In the moment it it felt like the
11:10right thing, but as
11:12>> you know, we just hit a year since I
11:14laid the gloves down. They're like, and
11:16I prepared myself. I prepare myself
11:19with
11:23investments, with financial security for
11:27my family. I prepared that part, but I
11:29didn't prepare for the mental part. You
11:31know, that's something I wish going into
11:33my retirement fight, I paid a little bit
11:35more more attention to my mindfulness,
11:38to
11:40to that part of retiring. You know,
11:43>> what could you have done differently?
11:47kept practicing the things I learned in
11:49therapy, the things that made me feel
11:51better, you know, I got away from all
11:53that.
11:56>> You know, it's interesting that
11:57>> year years ago I was on your show
11:59talking to you about just focusing on my
12:02mindfulness and I completely got away
12:04from that, you know.
12:05>> How long ago did you get away from it?
12:07Like how long has it been? It's probably
12:10been
12:14a year and a half, maybe longer. I don't
12:16know.
12:16>> That's not that long.
12:17>> Okay. That I thought you were going to
12:18say
12:19>> completely abandoning it.
12:20>> Yeah. And what does that mean?
12:22>> Stop reading, stop writing, stop going
12:23to therapy.
12:24>> Yeah. What we were talking about
12:26earlier, like feeling like you're okay.
12:28You don't have to do it anymore.
12:30>> Right. But I don't know if I'm ever
12:33going to be okay. It's just a constant
12:34It's a constant battle.
12:37>> That It's amazing. That fight was almost
12:39exactly a year ago. Uh, Sunday was the
12:41one-y year anniversary. Did that Did
12:42that hit you? Like, did you notice that
12:44on Sunday, that date, July 19th?
12:47>> Well, I'm back on Instagram and stuff,
12:49so I'm getting tagged on a bunch of
12:50retirement stuff, but uh
12:54so traveling and seeing the retirement
12:56stuff, you know, I kind of got in my
12:57feelings a little bit. You know, I'm an
12:58emotional person.
12:59>> Yeah. No, and I appreciate and respect
13:01that. Um, you got off Instagram after
13:04the incident. Why did you feel the need
13:06to do that? better. I think all of
13:07social social media, right? Not just
13:09Instagram.
13:09>> Yeah, I still I need to redownload X or
13:12Twitter or whatever. I don't I don't
13:13Only thing I got back on was was
13:15Instagram.
13:17>> Uh yeah, just because I know how the
13:19internet is, dude. I took a a public L
13:23and uh I knew people were going to be
13:24coming at me. I just wasn't in the
13:26mindset to to see the stuff. Even if I'm
13:28not going down the comments, I'm still
13:30seeing I'm catching shrapnel from every
13:32angle, bro. So, I just knew it was it
13:34was the right thing to do. been fighting
13:35and been in the spotlight for a long
13:38time with all these big events and big
13:39fights I've been in. So, I just knew it
13:41wasn't it wasn't a healthy place for my
13:42mental to be on any social media. So, I
13:45got off for like a clean month, you
13:47know,
13:48>> and so yeah, it hasn't been that long.
13:50Why come back? Did you feel better off
13:52of it?
13:54>> Well,
13:56I did that podcast and I felt like it
13:58was a long form podcast. I got to kind
13:59of explain myself
14:01and really just open up about everything
14:04that I've been going through. So,
14:07I just felt like it was time,
14:08>> you know?
14:09>> That that was my
14:12get my word out. I didn't want to come
14:15back and get into it online with people
14:16or try to,
14:19you know, I just wanted a long form a
14:22long format where I can really talk and
14:25explain myself before I got back on. The
14:27interesting thing and I know that I'm
14:29you know very far away. I'm not living
14:31it like you. It feels you know people go
14:34through public people go through as you
14:36say L's and all that stuff all the time.
14:39Feels like you've gotten a lot of love
14:41in the aftermath of this like people are
14:43supporting you, backing you, paying
14:46homage to you, you know the the hashtag
14:48and all that stuff. Are you surprised by
14:50this? Do you feel this? Am I misreading
14:51the situation? because I feel like you
14:53are getting like you are getting a lot
14:55more love than most people in that
14:56situation.
14:58>> Oh, definitely man. A lot of so many
15:00people have reached out to me. Um,
15:04>> it's been it's been good. The support
15:06has been incredible dude and I
15:07appreciate everybody who has reached
15:08out.
15:09>> Does it surprise you?
15:13>> Um, a little bit. It just kind of
15:17reassures me the impact I've had on
15:19fighting and and
15:21my peers who I respect who are still
15:23competing, reaching out and stuff, you
15:25know, uh I just appreciate it. I
15:26appreciate it all. You know, it's
15:30I don't get the grace, you know, I said
15:32this before as well. I don't get the
15:33grace to deal with with my fumbles, with
15:36my missteps in life privately. I don't
15:39get that. So, that's part of the reason
15:42I deleted all the social media and
15:43stuff. I kind of wanted to just go
15:45through this with my family and with
15:47myself with my therapist in my right
15:49mind without getting pulled from the
15:51internet or or the trolls or you know
15:53how it is on the internet, man. I just
15:55uh
15:56>> and like I said, I don't get the grace
15:58to to recorrect things to work on myself
16:01in privacy. You know, my my life is
16:03public and I understand that. So, I'm
16:05just doing everything I can. When you
16:08see a UFC fighter kind of do your pose
16:11on the scale, when you see Tommy
16:12McMillan do the same thing, a fan comes
16:15up to you and like, how do you react to
16:17that?
16:20>> Bro, if you go out and fight the way he
16:22did after that pose, do it every time.
16:24Let's go.
16:25But isn't it amazing that something that
16:27could have been so bad is now being
16:29turned into, you know, this thing that
16:31fighters are using to say like,
16:34I'm about that life basically.
16:40>> Uh,
16:41>> does it does it make you feel weird?
16:42Like because it's not a great moment for
16:44you obviously, but it's now being used
16:46as a like this is, you know,
16:48>> when it when this first happened, I kept
16:49telling my wife, I was like, I'm going
16:51to I don't know how. I know this is bad,
16:54but I'm gonna turn this into a positive.
16:56I might even text you that when because
16:57you and thank you as well, Ariel. You're
16:59one of the people who reached out every
17:01day. Uh checked on me every day. But uh
17:06and I'm still trying to, but I I 100%
17:09believe I'm going to turn this into a
17:10positive.
17:11>> Right. Um the I want to ask you just
17:14about the Sean Strickland thing because
17:15he came out and was very very negative
17:18and then he walked it back a day later.
17:20And what bothered me, if I'm being
17:22honest about that, was I wish he would
17:23have if he was if he felt some sort of
17:25way about it, why not just reach out to
17:27you beforehand before making his opinion
17:30known and then getting your side of the
17:31story? How did you feel about how that
17:34played out?
17:36>> Like it is what it is, man. He did reach
17:37out, but he reached out after like a day
17:39or two after he he said that stuff. And
17:42I was off of social media, but one of my
17:44buddies, Kyle, who I work out with five,
17:46six days a week, he's one of the only
17:49members of the Silly Goose Fitness Club,
17:51obviously, he's still on the internet,
17:53so he's telling me, "Did Sean Strickland
17:55said this, John Jones said this." So, I
17:57was kind of getting pieces uh of what
17:59was going on through my wife, through my
18:01my friends I work out with, stuff like
18:04that. So, I kind of knew what was going
18:05on, but Sean reached out and then after
18:08we spoke, he took all this stuff down.
18:10>> Okay. So, you're okay with it?
18:14>> Dude, it is what it is. Opinions.
18:15>> Yeah,
18:16>> everybody's got one.
18:17>> Yeah,
18:17>> everybody's got one.
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19:19did the the diary of a CEO podcast and
19:21and obviously that's a huge huge deal.
19:23Could I just, you know, for this
19:24audience if possible, can I can I ask
19:26you like what did happen on that day?
19:28What led you to doing that?
19:33>> Bad decision-m on on my part. you know,
19:35I don't want to place the blame on
19:36anything or or my family or what I have
19:39going on in my personal life. It's it's
19:40at the end of the day, it's up to me and
19:43I made bad decisions. So, uh, what
19:45happened that day, I just wasn't in a
19:46good mental space and, uh,
19:51I chose to do things
19:55during that that that
19:57middle space that I was in that I
20:00shouldn't have and I knew I shouldn't
20:02have and I didn't care in the moment,
20:03you know, just a really bad day for me.
20:06>> But, uh, we live and learn, dude. It'll
20:08never happen again. I'm uh I'm a month
20:11sober from alcohol
20:13and I'm never going to pick up alcohol
20:15again. You know, this has changed my the
20:17trajectory in my life. I'm never going
20:18to drink again in my life. I made a vow,
20:22you know, and
20:24and uh when I make promises to myself
20:26like that to my family like that, I
20:28don't break them. So, maybe it was
20:30something that needed to happen. It just
20:31sucks. The whole world gets to point the
20:32finger. Um but like I said about turning
20:36it into a positive, maybe I do and maybe
20:38I help somebody. Maybe somebody hears me
20:40speak that it's going through something
20:41and it's okay, you know?
20:45>> How consistently were you drinking in
20:46the past year? Like how bad did it get?
20:49>> Uh dude, that's the thing with me and
20:51drinking that I try to explain to people
20:53like I don't drink every day, but me and
20:56Chris Wyman were just talking about this
20:57yesterday on set uh before we went live.
21:01Probably three out of four times if I do
21:03pick up alcohol, I overdrink. But I
21:06don't drink every day. But when I do
21:08drink it, we're drinking, you know, and
21:10that's a problem. That's a problem I've
21:12had
21:13>> throughout my life, but definitely since
21:15I laid the gloves down. I always drink
21:17to celebrate to
21:21at social gatherings, at parties, at,
21:25you know, events after fights. You know,
21:27I drink and have a good time. But when I
21:30laid the gloves down, I realized I was
21:31drinking to process emotion. I wasn't
21:33drinking to socialize. I wasn't drinking
21:35to
21:37to celebrate. I was drinking to
21:41to fight the feelings in my head. I was
21:43trying to process emotion with drinking
21:46to get away, to run away from it, which
21:47is a coward's move. And uh
21:52>> yeah, but I wasn't drinking every day.
21:53>> Okay.
21:54>> Every weekend, every other weekend, you
21:56know, but still, now that I'm going back
21:58to therapy, um I always said I'm not an
22:00alcoholic. Alcoholic is somebody who if
22:03they stop drinking, they start shaking.
22:04They need a drink every day. I go weeks
22:07without drinking, no problem. Uh, but it
22:10is a form of alcoholism, uh, alcohol use
22:13disorder. Once it once it gets in my
22:15body and I get that dopamine hit, I I
22:18just can't stop. I want more. I want to
22:19feel good. I want more. And, uh,
22:23that's just a problem I have. Not
22:24everybody has that. I have My wife is
22:26somebody who can drink a one glass of
22:27wine and put it down. If I open a bottle
22:30of wine and have a glass, we're
22:31finishing the bottle and I'm probably
22:32opening another one. That's my problem.
22:35Not everybody has that. I have good
22:38friends who are close to me who can have
22:40two drinks and put it down and walk away
22:42and they're good. When I start, man,
22:45we're going to the to the championship
22:47rounds.
22:48>> And and and something that we've learned
22:50in all of this is this this is in your
22:52family, right? You've talked about your
22:54your father dealing with alcoholism as
22:56well. So, uh this was something that is
22:58perhaps in your DNA.
23:01Yeah, I uh
23:04I'm not sure if alcoholism is passed
23:07down through genes. I don't know. But my
23:09father's definitely an alcoholic.
23:11>> Could you tell us how is he doing? Do
23:13you have an update on him?
23:15>> Uh he's
23:18he's homeless, man. He gets a social
23:20security check and and lives at a hotel
23:22for a couple days, gamles, goes to the
23:24bar. When the money runs out, he's back
23:26on the street until the next social
23:28security check.
23:30How long has that been the case?
23:33>> Well, months, months, months
23:36>> and and your relationship with him, how
23:38would you describe it?
23:40>> I mean, I haven't spoke to him in
23:41probably
23:45uh I don't even know, man. Maybe eight
23:47months. Seven, six, seven, eight months.
23:49I don't know.
23:50>> Okay. But but there was a time where you
23:52guys had a a pretty healthy
23:54relationship. Was there ever a time? you
23:57know, I've lived with him throughout my
23:59life at different times. And even before
24:02he was homeless, uh, you know, he
24:04doesn't have a cell, he doesn't have a
24:05phone anymore, but we would talk once a
24:08week. You know, he would call me once a
24:09week, once every other week, you know,
24:11we we talked pretty often, probably
24:13every week.
24:14>> Did your parents get divorced when you
24:15were young?
24:18>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. When I was really
24:19young.
24:20>> Okay. Um, but you maintained a
24:22relationship with him. Um, but only
24:23would you say only in the last eight or
24:25so months has it gotten, you know, bad
24:28to this point to where you don't have
24:29communication with him?
24:31>> Yeah.
24:34Only this since he's been homeless and
24:37since, you know, he's been living on the
24:39street and doing what he's doing. That's
24:41that's whenever uh communication
24:44stop. It stopped a little bit before
24:45that and then I heard from him the day
24:47he got evicted from his apartment
24:51and uh put him in a hotel for a little
24:53while, but he doesn't want to help
24:55himself, man.
24:56>> Is this I would buy him a house if he
24:59was willing to get sober. I would buy
25:00him a house, you know, and and put him
25:02up, but if he's not going to sober up,
25:03I'm not going to do it.
25:04>> Right. And I'm assuming you've told them
25:06this. He he's he's older and he's at the
25:09point where he's like ch ch ch ch ch ch
25:10ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch
25:10ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch
25:10ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch choosing alcohol
25:11over which he has done in the past, you
25:14know, ruined ruin marriages, ruined
25:16friendships, ruined relationships with
25:18his family. He has grandkids, great
25:21grandkids that he's never met uh because
25:24of alcohol. And uh it just sucks, man.
25:29And that sentiment of buying him the
25:31house, being willing to buy him the
25:32house. I'm assuming you've told him
25:33this.
25:39>> I haven't been able to speak to him.
25:40>> Okay. I I mean, I
25:41>> My my sister my sister No, my sister
25:43went out and found him
25:46and spoke to him and uh told him that we
25:50were willing to help him out, but he
25:52doesn't, you know, he doesn't want he
25:53wants to, you know, he wants to drink
25:54until he dies. That's just, you know,
25:56how alcoholics are stubborn and
26:00he that's his choice, man. But I'm not
26:03going to let it affect my family and I
26:04can't let it affect my family,
26:06>> right?
26:07>> I have to protect me and and my
26:10household and not not mimic and mirror
26:14the bad decisions he made in his life.
26:15And that's why that's what I meant when
26:16I say it stops with me. You know, my son
26:18Kingston will never
26:20remember me being intoxicated, never
26:23remember me saying things I didn't mean
26:24or do doing things I didn't mean to do
26:27or because of alcohol, you know. So, it
26:29just it stops here.
26:31>> And do do you know like how far is he
26:33from you? Is he in the same town? Is he
26:37>> No, he's uh
26:39maybe 30 30 40 minutes away from you.
26:43>> Okay. But in the same state?
26:45>> Same state. Yeah. He lives in Louisiana.
26:47>> And I'm not asking this question to try
26:49to make you give any excuses, but there
26:52does seem to be a direct correlation
26:54between that sentiment and it being
26:56Father's Day when this all happened,
26:57right?
26:59>> Yeah. It was just heavy on my mind.
27:00Yeah.
27:01>> You know, that
27:02>> that was one of the first Father's Day
27:05and I just had, you know, my son was
27:09still pretty fresh and uh not talking to
27:12my father was the first Father's Day. I
27:13haven't talked to him in in in years.
27:15you know, it just kind of and I was
27:16traveling. It just kind of hit me, you
27:17know, and I chose I made wrong
27:20decisions.
27:21>> One thing that I just wanted to get
27:22clarity on cuz it was reported, but I I
27:25feel like the reporting might have been
27:26off. You were on the flight and then
27:28they took you off the flight. Is that
27:30And was there a reason why they took you
27:32off?
27:33>> No, I got into it with the desk agents.
27:35Uh uh it's kind of blurry to me
27:37honestly, but I don't think I ever got
27:39on the flight. Oh,
27:40>> okay. Okay. that. So that's what I saw
27:42being reported that you were sitting on
27:43the flight and they took you off
27:46>> and that could that I don't remember
27:48being on the plane. I remember getting
27:50to getting, you know, it's kind of like
27:53pieces come back.
27:54>> Yeah.
27:54>> After days of it, you know, and uh I got
27:58into it with the desk agents. They
28:00called the police and then I got into it
28:02with the police. I never
28:04>> I don't remember walking down the the
28:05bridge way to the aircraft. And then,
28:07you know, there was a moment. It's a
28:09short clip, by the way. Have you seen
28:11the clip?
28:13>> I've seen
28:15the the clip since I got back on
28:17Instagram. I'm tagged and stuff. So, I
28:18I've seen a good bit of it. And even
28:20before I got back on Instagram, piecing
28:23it together between what my wife was
28:24telling me and what my buddy I work out
28:25with was telling me, uh, I pretty much
28:29could piece it together and know know
28:31the extent of the video. C. Could you
28:34describe what that feels like seeing
28:36yourself like that?
28:40>> It's It's not good, Ariel.
28:41>> Yeah,
28:42>> it's not good.
28:44>> The ending though where you give sort of
28:46props to the police officer is like a is
28:48is a wild twist from how the clip
28:50starts. And I know you say it's hazy,
28:53but why did you feel the need in that
28:55moment? Do you recall to say like, "Hey
28:56man, you did a good job in the end."
29:00Maybe
29:02my head cleared up a little bit and I
29:04realized
29:06the situation and how bad it could have
29:08been. I'm not sure.
29:10>> It did seem like a how good of a job the
29:12police officer did. You know, it could
29:14have been bad.
29:16>> It seemed like he was remarkably calm in
29:19the situation.
29:21>> For sure. Very, very I know. He did an
29:24incredible job, man.
29:25I think you said that you were trying to
29:28find him, to thank him, to talk to him.
29:30Have you ever found him?
29:33>> The the police department out there that
29:36he works for, their PR team reached out
29:39to
29:40my agent and uh yesterday I spoke to a
29:43lawyer out in Atlanta who's dealing with
29:45my case and he's getting in touch with
29:48the police officer as well. But I told
29:50him like if he doesn't want to talk on
29:52the phone, can I send him a message? Can
29:54I write him a letter, give me an
29:55address, I'll send it to the police
29:57department, something. Just I just want
29:58to thank him and and tell him how good
30:00of a job he did, man. Cuz like like I
30:02said, bro, this could have been really
30:03bad,
30:04>> right?
30:04>> In the mindset I was in,
30:06>> no telling how bad it could have been.
30:08>> And so, can you tell us where does this
30:10stand right now from a legal standpoint?
30:12What are you dealing with
30:16>> with uh
30:18a misdemeanor charge, public
30:20intoxication?
30:21>> Okay.
30:22And and what's at stake there? Like what
30:25what could you be facing?
30:28>> I mean, at worst, potential jail time. I
30:31don't think it's going to go that far.
30:32Maybe a fine. But the lawyer I'm talking
30:35to, uh, the day I got back, my wife
30:39already booked me a therapy session for
30:41the day after I got back. The first day,
30:43my first full day home, I was back in
30:46therapy and trying to pull things
30:47together. So, um, the lawyer I'm talking
30:50to says, you know, this could be
30:52completely
30:54washed if I do the right thing. So,
30:56we'll see, man. Time will tell.
30:58>> Okay.
30:58>> But I did it and whatever happens out of
31:00it, I have to walk the walk and face the
31:02consequences.
31:04>> In in Sean's uh post tweet, he he has
31:08brought to light, you know, the Bud
31:09Light situation. Um, what what could you
31:12tell us about that? Where do things
31:13stand between you and Bud Light? No,
31:16they terminated my contract immediately.
31:18Oh,
31:20>> I'm sorry to hear that.
31:22>> No, it's all good, man. I don't need
31:23that [ __ ] poison in my life.
31:26>> So, you feel you feel at peace with it?
31:29I mean, it sucks that my family loses
31:30out on the money I had left on the deal
31:32with them, which is a few hundred,000.
31:35But,
31:38but also, if I'm representing something
31:40that I'm not going to be if I'm
31:43advertising something I'm not going to
31:44be taking part in and promoting stuff
31:46that, you know, it's just it is what it
31:49is.
31:49>> Sure. You you don't want to be you don't
31:51want to be sitting here saying I don't
31:52drink and then being in a commercial for
31:54something that you're not using
31:56basically,
31:57>> right? Right. And I don't have a problem
31:58with people. There's plenty of people
32:00out there who do drink responsibly. I'm
32:02not one. I'm not one. So, if you can
32:05drink responsibly, have fun. Drink a Bud
32:07Light. Drink a whatever the hell you
32:08want. Be responsible. Have a good time.
32:10I'm not that person.
32:11>> Sure. And And what about your other
32:13sponsors?
32:16>> Um, so far everybody's been pretty
32:18supportive. Amazing.
32:19>> You know, these other companies, these
32:20other companies I work with, I've been
32:22working with for years, for years and
32:24years and years. And they know my
32:26character. They've been around me in
32:27person and it was just a really bad day,
32:30man.
32:30>> Yeah. Um, one last thing on that
32:32particular day. I I I just be remiss
32:34we're focusing on the alcohol, but you
32:36know, obviously on camera you did say a
32:38slur, sort of a you know, in in a I
32:41guess it was a banter kind of way, but
32:43now it's being used as such, but that
32:45was brought to light as well. Um,
32:48>> what what are you talking about? Say it.
32:50>> Well, I I don't I don't I don't want to
32:51say it. I don't uh I don't use that
32:53word, but uh it see
32:55>> if you don't say it, I'm not going to
32:56know what you're talking about.
32:57>> I know. I know. Um I just want to know
33:00if you've seen the reaction to that as
33:02well because again, there's a lot of
33:04videos that are being made now. You
33:06know, Bobby Green weighing in on it. DC,
33:08I don't know if you've seen any of this
33:09stuff where they're like, "Yeah, you you
33:11know, you know how the internet is.
33:12You're good. You're you're you're you're
33:14okay." You know, this type of thing. And
33:15usually that doesn't happen uh in these
33:17cases.
33:20Uh
33:22yeah, that's
33:25to find the right words to to talk about
33:27that. I'm trying to. Man,
33:29>> it's a tricky one. So am I, by the way,
33:30just for the record.
33:31>> Yeah, I know. That's that's why I
33:33pressed you to the fire just now.
33:34>> I appreciate it.
33:35>> You know, I got to keep you honest like
33:37you're keeping me like you're keeping
33:38me.
33:39>> That's fine. I'll take it.
33:41You know, I uh
33:47growing up where I grew up when I was a
33:50kid,
33:53you know, speaking like that was was a
33:55normal thing where I come from, where I
33:57grew up, the people I grew up with. Um,
33:59and I don't talk like that. My
34:00daughter's never really heard me talk
34:02like that. But just in the moment,
34:05drunk, I go back to these dark, you
34:07know, these dark times and and uh
34:11Yeah. And I I apologize, ma'am.
34:16I think that says it all.
34:18>> I shouldn't have said what I said, and I
34:21didn't mean it
34:23in a racist way at all, but that doesn't
34:26matter. That's not something that should
34:27be said ever. You know,
34:30>> when all this happened, did you think
34:31that you would be out doing shows and
34:34and and working again this quickly, or
34:37were you afraid? Oh man, you know, I'm
34:40doing I know you how much you love the
34:41TV stuff. Were you afraid that it would
34:43take six, seven, eight months to get
34:44back? Because it seems like, you know,
34:47seeing you there yesterday, that made me
34:49really happy.
34:50>> It made me happy, too, man. And it made
34:52me feel like things in my life were
34:56trending towards being normal again, you
34:58know? It made me feel good leaving the
35:00show, you know, being stuck in the
35:02airport, missing flights, driving 6 and
35:041/2 hours home. After the show, I wasn't
35:06even that mad, man. I was just happy to
35:08be back working. My immediately my
35:12immediate thought after the whole
35:14incident was, you know, I just ruined
35:17everything I've been working on post
35:19post fighting, you know, I wanted to be
35:21on the on TV. I wanted to be on the
35:23desk. I wanted to be connected to the
35:24sport that's given me everything I have.
35:27And I just threw it all away, you know,
35:30because of emotion, because of my mind
35:33frame that day. You know, it it it's
35:36scary, man. You know, you can work your
35:37whole life and then one bad day can can
35:40ruin everything. Thankfully for me, it
35:42hasn't yet. I've lost a decent amount of
35:45money with with Bud Light sponsor
35:47falling off and you know, I had to get
35:49off the desk and get off the show for a
35:51while. Um, and CBS was figuring things
35:54out.
35:57But I I hope I hope I'm back. We'll see,
35:59man. Time will tell.
36:01But
36:01>> whatever happens, I brought it on to
36:03myself. You know what I mean? like
36:06I I can face the consequences, the good
36:09and the bad for things that I do. I've
36:11always been accountable. And I'm sorry,
36:13man. You know, to the people who who
36:17had to see that, the people who
36:20I let down, you know, that's not who I
36:22am. Anybody who really knows me knows
36:24who I am. And uh it was just a really
36:27bad bad time in my life. And I think
36:30that's the the I don't know the greatest
36:32byproduct in all of this is like you
36:34have shown us maybe as much if not more
36:36than any fighter like who you are over
36:38the years. And that's why like even on
36:40this show when it happened while we were
36:42on the air I'm like I know that's that
36:44you have also told us about the past
36:46year and you were foreshadowing a little
36:49bit and that's what was heartbreaking
36:50about it. But we know that you have a
36:52heart of gold. We know what you do for
36:53the community. We know about the good
36:55fight foundation. Like you are not that
36:56guy. You are not a bad person. And so I
36:58don't I'm happy to see that the the
37:00reaction hasn't been otherwise that the
37:02you know the internet and the world
37:03hasn't turned on you even though you
37:05made a mistake.
37:06>> I'm sure some people have but I feel
37:09like majority
37:10>> I haven't felt it. I haven't seen it.
37:12>> Majority of the people who follow my
37:14career and know who I am
37:17uh they reached out and and you know
37:20like like we talked about it's a lot of
37:22support man but life goes on. you know,
37:24this this week is packing backpacks for
37:27the for the school supply pickup. Next
37:29week with the Good Fight Foundation, and
37:32life life continues, you know, um lots
37:35more good ahead of me than than bad for
37:38sure.
37:38>> I love that back to school uh drive that
37:41you guys do and and I was actually
37:42thinking about that as school is
37:43resuming soon. I remember you saying
37:46when you retired like, "Hey, you were
37:47worried a little bit about the
37:48foundation because you couldn't auction
37:49off your gloves and shorts anymore. You
37:51don't have that vehicle." And so how has
37:54it been? How have you tried to offset
37:56that now that you don't have those
37:57things, those items that you can auction
37:59off for the charity?
38:01>> Um crowdfunding, us talking about the
38:03goals, trying to raise money. Also later
38:06on this year, we have a gayla planned.
38:08Uh you're invited if you want to come.
38:10I'll send you a personal invite.
38:12>> Thank you.
38:12>> Um in in Lafayette, Louisiana, it's our
38:15first gayla. We're going to be
38:16auctioning things off,
38:18showing the community and people around
38:20here in Lafayette, other business owners
38:21what we've done in Lafayette, Louisiana,
38:24and elsewhere. Um, and we're going to
38:27raise money through that our first
38:28gayla. Hopefully, it's it's a success
38:31and we're just going to keep it moving,
38:32you know.
38:33>> Um, I'll let you go in a moment. Uh just
38:35curious, you you I think are lucky to be
38:38working for an organization that has
38:40dealt with issues like this, you know,
38:42including at the very top of the
38:43organization and said like, hey, like
38:45this shouldn't define you. And so I
38:47would assume the UFC brass have shown
38:49you support in the aftermath of this.
38:52I mean,
38:54literally one day after the
38:57arrest and all that happened, Hunter
38:59Campbell with the UFC reached out to me
39:02and and asked me what he can do that the
39:04UFC's got my back. Anything they can do,
39:06anything I need help with, let them know
39:08and they're all in. So, no, the UFC, the
39:10company immediately reached out to me
39:13and had my back.
39:14>> Okay. I'm sure that felt amazing.
39:17>> Yeah. I I believe his exact words were
39:20something on the line of I can't let
39:22somebody who fought for this company for
39:24over 15 years
39:27try to handle all this on his own or
39:28something like we we have your back. Let
39:30us know what you need from us.
39:31>> Wow, that's amazing. Um, have you heard
39:33from Dana?
39:35>> No, I haven't heard from Dana. Hunter
39:37Hunter is the one that reached out.
39:38>> Okay. Um, kudos to him for doing that.
39:41And I'm assuming you were going to be at
39:42329 just because you have a history with
39:44Max and Connor and I've heard what you
39:46said and I'm not trying to relitigate
39:47the whole history between you and
39:49Connor, but I'm I'm I'm just wondering,
39:51do you think on a fight topic?
39:54>> Go ahead.
39:54>> I was actually supposed to work the the
39:56desk um that weekend. They offered me
39:59the show, but I just spent a week in uh
40:02in Florida on vacation with my family,
40:04so I had to turn that down. So, but they
40:06did offer me that that show. But this
40:08was before the the arrest, though, so I
40:09don't know.
40:10>> Yeah. No, I mean you would have been the
40:11perfect guy uh to be on that show, but I
40:13was happy you kind of stayed away. Was
40:15it hard for you to watch it like all the
40:16hoopla? Did you want to be there or were
40:18you happy to be home?
40:20>> No, I was happy to be with my family.
40:22But yeah, you're right. Like I I fought
40:24the main event guys a total of six
40:27times. You know, I have three fights
40:28with Max, three fights with Connor. I
40:30can speak about both guys and their
40:33fighting styles and things they're good
40:34and bad at. So, I would have been a a
40:37good one on the desk for that one. But
40:39no, I got to watch with my family on
40:40vacation, so it was nice.
40:42>> That's the wild thing. And and and I'm
40:43not trying to pull you back, but like
40:45Gachi, Connor, Max, like the top dudes
40:48at 155 are all guys that you've beaten,
40:51that you have history with. And I think
40:53I don't know if that plays tricks on
40:55your minds. Like, look at these guys.
40:57They're they're they're doing
40:58incredible. I could be there. I should
41:00be there. Do you think that way?
41:03>> I think subliminally part of me does.
41:06Um,
41:09but that's just it, man. I I'm I'm that
41:11that the fighting part. I'm done. I'm
41:14done. You know, I have to let it go.
41:17>> Does Connor come back in your mind?
41:20>> Bro, if he I I was talking about it
41:22yesterday. I saw that he said it was a
41:24meniscus and ACL. He didn't say the
41:26severity the severity of it. He didn't
41:27say if it was a complete tear, the ACL,
41:30what kind of tear of the meniscus, you
41:31know, cuz I have torn meniscus. If it's
41:33a certain kind of tear, you have to have
41:34surgery or your knee keeps locking up.
41:36You know, if it's a bucket tear, the the
41:39cartilage folds over and gets caught.
41:41So, and if it's a complete ACL tear, you
41:44know, that's going to be 9 10 a 10
41:46months, a year out after just taking 5
41:49years away. Uh it's it's tough to say. I
41:51don't know the extent of the injuries,
41:53but if he has to take another complete
41:55year off, dude, at my at his age,
41:59it's going to be tough to come back and
42:00and win. I think he tries. I think he
42:03tries to come back, right? Do you get
42:05that impression as well?
42:08>> He could, man. Yeah, he could.
42:11>> Have you heard from Michael Chandler?
42:15>> No.
42:15>> That one went crazy.
42:19>> What's that?
42:19>> When you said, "Dude, what are you
42:20doing? It's time to retire."
42:22>> I mean, dude, am I the only one asking
42:24this question? I I hope he goes on a 10
42:26fight win streak, bro. Yeah,
42:28>> but I mean if if you're getting hurt and
42:30beat up by 50 fibers,
42:32>> what do you think's going to happen with
42:33these bigger guys?
42:36>> No, 100%. It's just that, you know,
42:37that's what's going to make you into a
42:39great analyst, you being able to say
42:40these things. And sometimes they're
42:42>> at at some point of somebody's fighting
42:44career, you have to look in the mirror
42:45and say, "What am I fighting for?" Is he
42:47absolutely is he head over heels in love
42:49with the fight game to where
42:52the damage the repercussions of going in
42:55there against the best guys in the world
42:57don't matter? You know, cuz cuz it's all
42:59about the fight. Is he still trying to
43:01be the world champion? Does he think he
43:03can honestly look in the mirror? You
43:05know, it's like what are you fighting
43:06for, right?
43:07>> He's been fighting a long time, taking a
43:09lot of damage.
43:11>> As we age, we don't get quicker. We
43:12don't get more athletic. Our reflexes
43:14don't get better, you know?
43:16It's just like,
43:19and this isn't like I'm not trying to
43:20poke at him or be an [ __ ] here. I
43:23just like, what's the reason?
43:26>> It could just be the paycheck.
43:28>> Well, that's not, you know,
43:32this is a job, but it's it's a different
43:33kind of job, man. If you're just showing
43:35up for a paycheck,
43:37he's got kids and a wife and people who
43:39love him, you know. Um,
43:43that's why I laid the gloves out. I
43:45didn't want to be a paycheck guy. I made
43:46enough. I'm sure Chandler has made
43:48enough money as well. I made enough
43:49money fighting. I don't want to show up
43:51to get in these wars and just collect a
43:53check. If I'm fighting, it's to be the
43:54best. And it always was that to be the
43:57absolute best, to be the world champion.
43:58Whenever I felt like that was out of my
44:01grasp or wasn't a reality, then I made
44:04the decision to lay the gloves down.
44:07>> Last one. Last fight one. What was Ben
44:09Saint thinking?
44:11you know, he's
44:14been reckless before,
44:16put himself in bad positions before, and
44:19sometimes he breaks guys just being that
44:21hard nose, overwhelming them, uh, he
44:24finds a way to to to do that and
44:27overwhelm guys and and get his hand
44:28raised. But also, when you're fighting a
44:32guy like Patty, who's a great grappler,
44:34who one mistake, it's no getting out of
44:38it. You know, it's game, set, match. Uh,
44:42you can't do that. You have to be a
44:43little bit smarter. And, uh, we we I
44:46picked Patty. I thought Patty was going
44:48to win.
44:48>> Wow. Okay. All right. You know, balls.
44:50>> I told my buddies to bet on him. He was
44:51the underdog. I was like, "Dude, Patty's
44:53probably going to win this fight."
44:54>> Wow. Okay. Interesting. Uh, and that's
44:57why you are one of the best in the game.
44:58And by the way, I like the new tattoo
45:00right there. I see it. That's new,
45:01right, Kingston?
45:03>> I've been having it I don't know how
45:04long. Maybe a few months.
45:06>> Okay. All right. Well, it's been a
45:07minute. It's been a minute. Um, uh,
45:09great to see you, Dustin. Smiling in
45:10good spirits, in good health. 28 days, I
45:13believe. We're at 28 days.
45:15>> 28 might have been yesterday. I think I
45:16might I'd have to check check my my
45:19account, my day, the sober app. Uh, 29
45:22maybe.
45:23>> Hell yeah. All right. Well, keep going,
45:25man. Uh, we're sending you all the love
45:26and support in the world. Uh, well done.
45:29And, uh, I think a lot of people are
45:30learning from you. You you you you hit
45:32a, you know, a low moment, but you're
45:34climbing back up. You're not hiding.
45:36you're taking accountability and uh
45:38you've shown us already who you are. So
45:39to me that was that was a blip on the
45:41radar. That wasn't Dustin Pier, the one
45:43that I know for so many years. So much
45:45love to you and your family and uh we're
45:47always here for you if you need
45:48anything. And maybe maybe we'll finally
45:50make our debut in Lafayette later this
45:52year. DC doesn't invite me. So at least
45:54the king of Lafayette when that's
45:57>> he'll invite you to Gilroy.
45:59>> That's right. He has done that. He has
46:00done that.
46:01>> There you go. There you go.
46:03>> Thank you, Dustin. Much love to you,
46:04man. I really appreciate you coming on
46:05and talking about this. I know it's not
46:07fun, but I really do appreciate it.
46:09>> It's all good, man. A lot of things
46:11aren't fun, but need to happen. And I
46:13appreciate you uh reaching out these
46:15past few weeks and checking in on me,
46:17bro. I'm good. My family's good. Life is
46:19good. Another lesson learned, man. Add
46:21it to the long book that I'm writing.
46:24>> Thank you, Dustin. Much love. Keep it
46:26up.
46:27>> Thank you, bro. Yes, sir.
46:28>> There he is. The great Dustin Porier. So
46:30great to see him smile. So great to see
46:32him in good spirits. uh really
46:34appreciate him coming on and uh yeah um
46:38you know those are uh those are tough
46:40questions. Those are tough things to
46:41talk about. Those are tough memories and
46:43incidents uh to relive and um I really
46:48do uh I really do appreciate him coming
46:50on. Thanks for watching this video.
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