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0:01i think it's time we start talking about
0:03what happened to your parents
0:04like the truthful version
0:06okay why because listen listen to me
0:09this is the only chance you're gonna
0:10have
0:11to tell us the truth
0:13this worthless pile of [ __ ] is chandler
0:15hulderson
0:16he's currently on trial for killing and
0:18dismembering his parents over the 4th of
0:20july weekend in 2021
0:22the fact that he's able to give this
0:24interview to police is nothing short of
0:26a miracle
0:27considering that mere hours before this
0:29he was suffering from a severe head
0:31injury that left him unable to use his
0:33legs
0:34gave him a brain bleed that needed to be
0:35fixed by drilling his head open
0:37left him unable to drive
0:39and required him to have a colostomy bag
0:43only problem is none of those things are
0:45true
0:47everything that comes out of this
0:48douchebag's mouth is a lie from going to
0:50college to having a job to all the
0:53medical issues stated before it was all
0:56a lie
0:57and once his parents figured that out
1:00chandler killed him
1:28what's going on
1:31all right um so we're just gonna talk to
1:33you a little bit more okay um
1:43all right just you know i'm gonna record
1:45stuff okay it just helps to remember
1:46everything and
1:48picks up everything that we talk about
1:55all right um so brian trump detective
1:58dank county sheriff's office we spoke
2:00yesterday yeah uh
2:02yep how was your middle initial jam
2:04amazon michael michael and then your
2:07birthday 3
2:0915 1998.
2:11got it and your cell phone i already
2:13have we've been talking on that
2:15um
2:18so
2:18obviously we're we're here we want to
2:20talk a little bit about uh
2:22your parents going missing right kristen
2:24bart
2:26um
2:28before we get started
2:29just because you're up here okay so i'm
2:32just going to read you your
2:33constitutional rights okay so it's a
2:35dane county issued card that they give
2:37us
2:38so i'll just read them to you right off
2:40the card okay
2:41you have the right to remain silent
2:43anything you say can and will be used
2:45against you in a court of law you have
2:46the right to consult with a lawyer
2:48before questioning and to have a lawyer
2:49present with you during questioning if
2:51you cannot afford to hire a lawyer one
2:53will be appointed to represent you at
2:55public expense before during any
2:57questioning if you so wish if you decide
2:59to answer questions now without a lawyer
3:01present you have the right to stop the
3:03question and remain silent at any time
3:04you wish and the right to ask for and
3:06have a lawyer at any time you wish
3:08including during the question
3:10okay
3:10do you understand the right set of
3:12strategies i do okay realizing that you
3:14have these rights or you're not willing
3:16to answer questions or make a statement
3:29just do the yes yeah so the second one
3:31okay so i'll just read it again
3:33realizing that you have these rights are
3:34you not willing to answer questions or
3:36make a statement oh i will make a
3:37statement okay
3:39yes you understand them
3:42could i have the card so i could read it
3:43i missed some
3:45um i'm sorry and
3:48i can still have like a little bit of
3:50problems that the third
3:51one all right i'll just i'll read it
3:53let's start all over yeah
3:55again there we go so you have the right
3:57to remain silent
3:58anything you say can and will be used
4:00against unicorn law you have the right
4:02to consult with a lawyer before
4:04questioning and to have a lawyer present
4:06with you during questioning if you
4:08cannot afford to hire a lawyer one will
4:09be appointed to represent you at public
4:11expense before or during any questioning
4:13if you so wish
4:15if you decide to answer questions now
4:17without a lawyer present you have the
4:18right to stop the question and remain
4:20silent at any time you wish and the
4:22right to ask for and have a lawyer at
4:24any time you wish including during the
4:26questioning okay so then the only two
4:28questions i asked where do you
4:29understand yeah i understand and i am
4:32willing to make a statement okay perfect
4:35all right um
4:37so like like we already said i talked to
4:39you yesterday um so today is july 8th uh
4:44it's about 5 11 now we started talking
4:46at 508
4:47so yesterday uh july 7th i
4:50came to your house where you live with
4:52your parents bart
4:54and krista
4:55helderson
4:57and um
4:58the reason i was there is is you had
5:00gone to the windsor police department
5:03and reported them missing right yes okay
5:06um i would didn't go to the department i
5:08went to the like office break room
5:11area in the same building
5:14yeah i think it's mixed in with the city
5:16hall okay
5:18but nonetheless
5:19he came and spoke to you okay
5:22um so you reported your parents missing
5:26we got some information from you
5:27yesterday
5:28um we've been following leads last night
5:31um working today to you know go through
5:33different things just trying to locate
5:36them right
5:36um
5:38so i i guess if you want to start with
5:42let's just go back to
5:44to last wednesday
5:47uh wednesday
5:49i was with my dad
5:53what time wednesday i remember it it was
5:56kind of a bad day
5:57okay why was it a bad day
6:00um
6:01well my mom had work so she was gone
6:04um
6:06my dad and i were watching something
6:08over lunch it was uh the wheel of
6:11fortune
6:13and we had
6:14we'd normally have the couch
6:16like with our back facing her at the
6:18table we sat at at the end of you coming
6:21downstairs downstairs okay in the
6:23bedroom with the tv
6:25i toss the ball
6:27and i smash the glass
6:31okay with the dog the dog so
6:34uh that
6:36yeah
6:36set my dad off and
6:39we tried to clean it up
6:42okay i don't know about him but i got
6:44injured
6:46um but he was mad
6:49he didn't really talk to me too much
6:51that day
6:54my mom got home at five i believe
6:57like
6:59that's her normal 5 20 to 5 30.
7:04what time does she work you know
7:067 30 is when she leaves i don't know her
7:08hours but when she leaves at 7 30
7:12and then
7:14all the way up till five and she
7:16she comes home 5 20 5 30.
7:20did she come home about 5 25 30 that day
7:23i believe so yeah okay
7:30so you guys are or downstairs um just to
7:34touch back in that quick so the couch so
7:36yesterday when we were down in your
7:38basement the couches were in a bed i
7:41he helped me put him in a before
7:44and thursday but they put it into a bed
7:47so i could sleep near the bathroom and
7:49the dogs sleep in that floor
7:52so okay
7:53they'll be a lot better if they're
7:55sleeping on that floor downstairs floor
7:57yeah just cooler form or something
8:00probably okay
8:03all right so you were tossing a ball
8:04what type of ball was it
8:07this gross hairy
8:09tennis ball
8:10rizzo loves all right just like a green
8:12tennis ball like a normal
8:14yeah
8:15okay go with the squeaker not like a
8:17tennis racquetball but they don't change
8:20my dog chews those out of any tennis
8:22ball they just chew the squeakers out
8:23and then they don't play with them
8:24anymore
8:26all right so you was tossing that around
8:28broke the fireplace glass uh you said
8:31you were injured what type of injury i
8:33got a pretty deep hole in my foot
8:35last night mary looked at it and she
8:37said the reason it keeps bleeding is
8:39because there's glass in it oh that's
8:41the you showed us your toes showed the
8:45lead
8:45yes yeah
8:48okay
8:49yeah so
8:52that one it could be infected is what
8:55she's thinking but neosporin's been
8:57helping okay good
8:59um keeping it clean and stuff
9:02the best you can
9:04i i know how i guess yeah
9:07okay
9:08once i oh wednesday back to wednesday
9:10yes i got all the glass out of the dog's
9:12hair
9:13um
9:14she didn't sustain any injuries good
9:18nothing even on her nose she got it with
9:20her
9:21shoulder bone i believe
9:24um
9:28so glass dog
9:29that was
9:30roughly around two
9:34and then the rest he didn't really talk
9:36to me
9:37i went back to doing
9:40like a job search kind of just
9:44[ __ ] my day away
9:45just getting games youtube
9:48maybe uh that's when i came across one
9:51of the jobs i liked
9:53um
9:54then five o'clock rolled up by and we
9:56mom came home
9:58um
9:59dinner
10:02what do you guys have ones tonight i
10:04couldn't tell you okay
10:08who made it
10:10i think it was
10:11probably just stuff from the fridge okay
10:13i don't i think we all did our own thing
10:15again sure
10:20by the way a detective at my house said
10:22something's happened
10:24and while we're leaving people were
10:25going inside is there a warrant
10:28for my house
10:30should there be
10:31no i'm just wondering it's okay
10:34as far as i know they were at your house
10:36and they were going to be there talking
10:39to you to ask if you would come up here
10:42and talk to us but um officer haley
10:46just like walked pretty much in to the
10:49gate you know the gate on the outside
10:51just kind of walked in i was wondering
10:54was that when you were getting your
10:55wallet
10:56uh no we were we were i was in the car
10:59waiting to leave i was just wondering if
11:02everything's okay because she said
11:04something's happened
11:05okay and we need to go down
11:08all right i'll find out what that's
11:09about
11:10well has anything bad happening
11:12oh not sure
11:15all right so so wednesday night mom
11:17comes home um dad was angry was was he
11:20yelling or what was
11:22how would you describe dad being angry
11:24it was
11:26if you he would yell if you said
11:30something to him i guess if you talk to
11:32him if you give him his space
11:34he'll be okay
11:36so wednesday night oh wednesday
11:40homelessness this all we did just give
11:43him his space you you won't yell or do
11:46anything okay
11:48that's all we had to do
11:50um i'm just
11:52lying i went to clean
11:53uh do some laundry
11:57uh make our beds
12:00and stuff like that
12:02who is we
12:03my night
12:04your mom okay
12:09that was wednesday night
12:10yeah that was we had an early night
12:13no tv that night
12:15yeah
12:16um
12:19what time did your parents go to bed
12:20wednesday night feeling
12:22i was in bed
12:24you were
12:25yeah okay
12:28yeah
12:29um
12:34i couldn't tell you when they went to
12:35bed
12:36okay no worries and you were down stairs
12:39that's where you've been sleeping you
12:40told me last time i was in my room
12:42wednesday upstairs okay
12:50gotcha so
12:52in the bedroom upstairs
12:54and then you you sleep downstairs
12:58why have you been sleeping downstairs
13:00again you told me that
13:01the bathroom's right i need to be close
13:03because stairs i can't see too well in
13:06the dark yeah so
13:10gotcha
13:11and just like last night i'm dotting
13:12some notes quick you know it doesn't
13:14mean one thing is more important the
13:15other just means that i need to remember
13:17stuff and sometimes yeah
13:22all right so did you sleep at their door
13:23closed that night or open oh yeah i
13:25always have a close closed door yeah it
13:27makes sense
13:29i
13:30feel like they argued a little bit after
13:32parents did
13:33what were they arguing about
13:36probably would set my dad off that day
13:37of the glass
13:39okay um
13:40us not having food already
13:44stuff like that we i mean we just
13:46microwaved whatever is in the fridge i
13:49suppose yeah
13:51who was upset about that
13:53that dad was okay he usually doesn't
13:56like that
13:57he likes uh when we cook okay
14:01okay
14:03does he ever cook
14:05i haven't seen him cook oh he grills he
14:07likes the grill he grilled on thursday
14:09nice
14:11all right
14:13i think i told one officer
14:15the green egg
14:18you got um
14:20it makes terrible food but
14:22yeah
14:24dad does yeah oh the green egg oh the
14:26green egg that's like a grill or
14:28something yeah it's insulated and makes
14:30everything smokey oh okay
14:34um
14:35it's thursday morning
14:38i wake up
14:44what time do you think
14:46six okay
14:47dogs
14:49we talked about that yesterday 6 a.m
14:50it's kind of your deal right 6 a.m yeah
14:53internal clock now
14:55yeah houston
14:57i think in a while
14:59all right
15:02i
15:03don't often eat breakfast
15:06so
15:07i kind of just stay in my room on my
15:08phone
15:11held my mom out getting ready
15:14in the morning she she left for work at
15:177 30.
15:20i found her
15:23whatever she had to do
15:30this
15:31meaningless tasks like just daily
15:35like pillowcase changes and
15:38she changes stuff like that you know in
15:40the morning
15:41before work
15:43yeah
15:44that's what we always do
15:50and
15:51she's gone
15:56uh my dad starts the grill around 8 39
16:00in the morning but yeah to get the
16:02temperature right
16:06we'll see working from home that day or
16:08yes
16:09okay
16:11we
16:13um we ate
16:15the grill nothing really happened
16:17between that we kind of either were
16:18outside with the dogs
16:20from the lighting of the grill
16:23him going in taking a couple calls
16:27and now and then or emails or something
16:29but we just kind of watched the grill
16:31and waited to get it set steady hit
16:34the hamburgers for 350-ish okay
16:38then
16:42so
16:43yeah we just kind of waited
16:45for the burgers um
16:50and then we had we ate
16:52noon noon 30.
16:59sorry 12 30 sorry sure
17:02um
17:04then we went inside and
17:06had our tv show again wheel of fortune
17:09it was on around our time for lunch
17:13or was it family feud family feud was
17:16thursday
17:18family
17:19um
17:21where'd you guys watch that downstairs
17:24okay
17:25did you guys have a tv upstairs i don't
17:27remember no no
17:29okay um
17:38sorry i'm really trying to learn the
17:40memory um
17:42then yeah
17:45we went to go do our own things i went
17:47back to
17:48a little bit more job searching this
17:50time i branched into deforest instead of
17:52just windsor
17:53okay
17:55he went back to work
17:57we planned
17:59on
18:06something's as well
18:10oh we were
18:19i don't know something went well for him
18:22so
18:22that's all
18:24um
18:28we were hanging out again
18:30in my mod texts
18:38um i i believe i texted everything's
18:41going well
18:42uh his phone died my dad
18:45he didn't
18:47he's kind of like charged it put it on
18:49the dock
18:51and left it
18:53um
18:55then we just kind of hung out and my mom
18:57gets home and i uh start the
19:01i start
19:02shrimp scampi for my dad because that's
19:04what he wanted but we didn't have shrimp
19:07so i made shrimpless scampi
19:10um
19:16that's that's where they told me while
19:18we were eating it they they were gonna
19:20go with their friends and i was like oh
19:22cool
19:25um
19:26and they said they were going
19:28cabin yeah
19:30okay we're going up north that's alright
19:34who said that mom or dad ma
19:37my dad doesn't talk about eats okay
19:39um
19:41so
19:41there we are at thursday dinner
19:43up north of the cabin my dad says i'll
19:46need a set for pipe repair
19:48and gas
19:50so i'm like all right
19:54i grabbed the pipe repair stuff
19:56from his um
19:58plumbing chest their plumbing plumbing
20:00box it's like a tote
20:03of what you need for
20:05pipe repair
20:10and two
20:13whatever jerry cans i
20:15can't remember the amount
20:18but they're red with the safety nozzles
20:23got those squared away
20:25they had most of their duffels already
20:27packed
20:28at that point
20:29and we all just started bringing them
20:31down to
20:32the mud room with the shoes yeah by the
20:34garage where he showed me him
20:39um
20:41after that we watched
20:43uh
20:51there's a netflix original um you know
20:54seven underground with a
20:56thrill seeking like
21:00it's like they they fake their deaths
21:02and they they fly airplanes and um
21:06they like fight at the evil of the world
21:10by being ghosts it's
21:12pretty cool i don't think i've seen that
21:14one yet
21:15who was watching that three of us all
21:17three of you okay
21:19all three and that put it at
21:22nine they had their drinks
21:24um
21:27went to my computer my computer was at
21:30that that black table we set it sure we
21:33saw that stuff
21:38played played a video game called tarkov
21:42for
21:43until midnight
21:46well after midnight maybe even
21:49kind of lose track of time
21:51and my parents by then were asleep
21:54we got their teeth brushing everything
21:58um
21:58[Music]
22:01then i got
22:02i got upstairs
22:05oh
22:06that was thursday yeah so i did
22:08so we got the bed all set before they
22:11before we played tarkov
22:13and that's when i crawled into bed
22:15from the
22:17black table
22:18so after our movie we set up my my couch
22:22bed
22:23and
22:24the pillows for the girls who helped to
22:26set the bed up my bad dad okay yes
22:29he knew he was leaving and i would need
22:31that
22:34um
22:36friday morning
22:39i woke up they had left with the stuff
22:42it was all set out i remember the gas
22:48um
22:49i found the
22:52the folding chairs that they wanted to
22:54bring but they never brought them i'm
22:56assuming
22:57they could fit a big
23:01so i put those away um
23:07that was friday morning i go upstairs
23:11do the dog or feed the dogs
23:14it was around six ish not 6 15 when i
23:18woke up i was a little late that day 6
23:2015 okay
23:23i guess just when i looked at my phone
23:28dogs
23:30saw my moz note
23:32the insurance for my appointment
23:37i
23:39ate whatever's on the counter i think it
23:41was cornbread
23:48where was the note from your mom that
23:50was on the kitchen like there's a
23:53peninsula yeah with the insurance
23:55stacked up but i i moved it to the table
23:59okay
24:02and then those insurance cards were
24:04there also that we saw yesterday yeah
24:06okay
24:08um
24:09she knew which one i would need
24:11but i have three now
24:14um
24:22okay friday yep
24:25morning i was cat friday night i believe
24:27would you do friday during the day
24:30oh yeah that's worked backwards um
24:37i kind of flipped it away
24:41okay
24:42parents are gone why not right yeah i
24:45didn't do anything that i should have i
24:47should have been cleaning and all of
24:49that
24:52the house seemed pretty clean
24:55when i was there you see all the dog
24:56hair that that's got to be gone it comes
24:58along with it right yeah
25:02all right so friday during the day i've
25:04just played video games kind of
25:06yeah then after work
25:08i believe
25:10that was the day cat came over after
25:12whose
25:19believe she came over
25:24um
25:28so she has done around five because the
25:30cat came at five
25:32so i don't think she went straight here
25:34after
25:35all right
25:37um
25:38it could have been later like six maybe
25:40give her time for like getting close
25:43um
25:51this is after work
25:55she works downtown middleton
25:57is a farm tech okay
26:00she um
26:01i believe she stayed with me on that
26:03couch that night
26:08so she spent the night over
26:10yeah
26:16you guys both slept on the couch
26:18downstairs yeah
26:22um
26:24what'd you do before yeah wait what's
26:26the bad that was friday night
26:31that might have been my own night i
26:33might be wrong i'm wrong okay i think i
26:35spent that night alone i just kind of
26:37gamed online
26:40with some black friends
26:42oh i said saturday night
26:44i'm so scared guys no worries man
26:47so
26:48one night
26:49i gained a loan
26:51all night
26:53one night cat spent
26:55the night on the couch
26:57oh and sunday she spent the night in my
27:00bed with me
27:01she helped me out
27:04sunday night i know that because
27:07she didn't want to spend another night
27:09on the couch bed
27:11she didn't like it
27:13and she went to work on monday morning
27:15so that was
27:17my bed
27:18night we um
27:20backtracking
27:22one night she spent on the couch
27:25with me
27:26with like the couch bed we've made
27:29but one night i
27:31gamed all night
27:33or all day and night pretty much
27:35and i'm pretty sure that was
27:40friday night and let's go with saturday
27:43was my night alone okay
27:47so friday we believe she came over
27:50yes and then saturday was the game night
27:53yes
27:54so backtracking to friday
27:58when she came by
28:00we
28:04um
28:05actually
28:07just um oh bright no not right um
28:11there's this movie or a tv series on
28:14netflix we watched pretty much the
28:16entirety of that into
28:18the morning it was um
28:23a apocalypse show okay i don't know the
28:25name
28:29what time do you guys think you went to
28:30bed
28:34i say we stayed up well until
28:3910 i would say
28:41p.m
28:42yeah okay you gotta be at least
28:47um
28:51good morning
28:58saturday we didn't do much
29:00she left um
29:04this is when i'm really starting to
29:06notice my legs
29:08okay i'm kind of having the
29:11the anxiety and all of that like
29:14getting a little frustrated with myself
29:15and all that like i it wasn't too bad
29:18until
29:21like last week tuesday when i started
29:24noticing it and
29:25saturday was like the peak
29:28and it's kind of stayed out like this
29:31okay
29:32peek things out eddie
29:34and this kind of like set me
29:36like fast for some space and i just kind
29:39of gained
29:41saturday
29:43um
29:45i couldn't tell you when i went to bed i
29:47i think i might have even stayed up till
29:49two
29:51that
29:52yeah um
30:00yeah it's just the same game escape from
30:02tarkov
30:04um
30:07all right i couldn't get a hold of any
30:08of my friends to play with unfortunately
30:11i played like some here and there
30:14from discord but none would
30:16like stick around for that late in the
30:19night
30:21then we get to sunday
30:24it's the fourth
30:25we brought my family
30:28i think i called my mom
30:31oh throughout i've called i i don't know
30:34the times though
30:37throughout the weekend i mean but i
30:38called my ma i believe
30:41in the morning there's
30:43along those lines and i get a text from
30:45her
30:47it was a text message it wasn't even my
30:50message so
30:51i assumed
30:53she said white lake today
30:56so she sent it that day
31:00um
31:02i couldn't figure out where she was
31:05because it was a text there was no
31:06imessage so i kind of just like left it
31:09at that they're safe they're alive
31:12then
31:18it's the afternoon
31:21i'm talking to dan
31:25i call him up and i ask him well what
31:28he's doing
31:31or maybe that was the morning but i i
31:33called dan that sunday asked him what he
31:36what he's up to if he wanted to hang out
31:39because i i don't like being alone i
31:41thought his favorite one
31:44dan is mom's co-worker slash friend yeah
31:46focus guy
31:49um
31:51go over there
31:52for he invited me for fireworks
31:56in his
31:57his driveway
32:04um he said or you said yesterday he
32:06lived in the forest or windsor one of
32:08them yeah close okay i couldn't i could
32:11point it at a map one or
32:17throughout the day
32:19um
32:20the dogs it's just me and the dogs the
32:22fireworks and the dogs are like
32:25running around and into things i'm
32:27trying to keep them
32:29okay all they're doing is knocking stuff
32:31over
32:33spilled their water they haven't eaten
32:36they won't go outside for me
32:38um even on a leash i couldn't get them
32:42out
32:44what was the deal with that
32:45words oh the fireworks are spooking them
32:47so much yeah all right
32:51i put them both into the
32:54fort crank the tv
33:00did that seem to help at all with him
33:03yeah
33:04the the loud tv helped rizzo doesn't
33:07like or maybe does like new girl
33:11for the tv shows so we launched that
33:14it's the theme song that gets her i
33:15think she parts
33:18um
33:20so we watched
33:22that um izzy fell asleep so
33:27izzy's the the old dog the older one yep
33:30so then it's sunday
33:32sunday evening cat comes by
33:35to help me with the girls
33:37so she wasn't there during the day no no
33:40it was just me and the dogs she left
33:43sunday morning okay from
33:46the
33:47no
33:48no she left
33:52saturday morning because i spent
33:54oh saturday night
33:56i see that and then sunday
33:58it was just me and the girls till
34:03whenever cat got there
34:06we didn't eat
34:07together i don't think
34:12no this is sunday this is sunday so i
34:14went
34:16to cat's house
34:18on sunday i actually
34:20yeah so that was sunday morning is when
34:23i left the girls
34:24so all of sunday morning i had the girls
34:27in the fort we watched new girl
34:30i went to cat's house sunday
34:32to eat but we ended up not eating there
34:35we went to
34:37um
34:38cress's house
34:41it's
34:42cottage grove
34:44or
34:45cascade no
34:47cedarburg
34:48it's a sea town
34:51area
34:53okay um so where is it here
34:56i've never
34:57crashed
34:58crest oh chris
35:00so crass is just on my phone
35:03yeah yeah i saw the calls to her she
35:05that's yours
35:06with that thing cats mom's girlfriend
35:09mom's girlfriend okay
35:12i try to talk to her as much because
35:13she's like
35:15i don't know wise and she really
35:17helps me with what's going on with me
35:19because i've
35:20been in a slump i'd say okay
35:24all right let's go into cats all sunday
35:26to eat what time do you think you went
35:28over there
35:33food at 3 30. that's what i said so
35:35about three three three three thirty you
35:38went over to cats oh i was at cats well
35:40before i was out there at noon
35:44where does cat live
35:46the east side east side of madison i
35:50yeah
35:51okay
35:52you know
35:53i'm sure i could look it up but you know
35:55the road at all or anything
35:59[Music]
36:01okay
36:02i'll look it up that's fine we're and so
36:05we went met her sunday about noon
36:08um
36:09what'd you guys do at her place well
36:13she realized my legs i won't be able to
36:15do stuff with them so her her brother
36:19and her brother's date went to a thrift
36:22store while she
36:24had me sleep just
36:28she just put me to bed and
36:30they went
36:32and then they get home around 2 30.
36:35kat and i rush back to my house let the
36:38girls out and we go back straight to the
36:42farm
36:43okay were you at the farm before you
36:45went to let the dogs out or no we were
36:47at cats
36:48like it's like a dude so cats cats house
36:52sunday around noon um you went to sleep
36:55with welsh cat
36:57her sister
36:59her brother cat's brother and his date
37:03and his date okay sorry about that
37:06went to a thrift store then
37:09then we went to cresses
37:11and we ate
37:12um
37:13after that james left after dinner
37:16leaving his date with us and we we took
37:19a swim
37:20after the swim we
37:22we left
37:23um
37:25went to cat's house to drop off his date
37:29the date stayed at kat's house
37:34i think the date
37:37is the rhodes maybe
37:39what her name was
37:42um have you ever met her before no this
37:44was a tinder match from her brother
37:47cat's brother okay
37:52um
37:57what time do you suppose you guys went
37:59to cresce's house so got the cats around
38:01noon
38:05went to my house
38:07to let the dogs out then we left
38:10oh i think we got gas
38:14and then we went to presses so i would
38:15say
38:17we got to
38:19it was maybe four when we got there
38:22we were late for dinner
38:24but it was good because they're still
38:26setting up
38:29where'd you guys get gas at do you
38:30remember that one of the quick trips in
38:33town
38:34i
38:35can't remember
38:37i'm sorry um
38:41when you say in town are we talking
38:43deforest
38:44sun prairies
38:51i'm still not super sure but i know we
38:55were doing something on the way or we
38:57didn't do something
38:59i thought we were gonna do a return
39:01but i'm jumbling it right now so just
39:04have that
39:06we went to my house and back to crest as
39:08we were late okay
39:12what were you guys driving were you in
39:14your car what's red subaru
39:17okay was she driving are you she she was
39:20that cat it's her car
39:24red subaru
39:26yeah she it's at my house right now oh
39:28okay
39:30and you rode with her
39:32yes
39:34um where'd you guys go for a swim
39:37there's like a little pool up at the
39:40crest's house oh [ __ ] she's been helping
39:42me with like my walking and everything
39:45and they get me there
39:47okay
39:48is it indoor or outdoor outdoor
39:51almost been nice with how hot it has
39:53been yeah they got something fancy to
39:55heat it from the sun okay
39:58but that was three of us yeah
40:02then we went
40:04back to
40:06round six no later
40:09maybe seven
40:11we went back to cat's apartment dropped
40:14off rose
40:16got cats
40:17dirty or
40:19wet clothes she had wet clothes
40:22because she was going to dry them
40:25and we went
40:26to my house together
40:29so rose got dropped off at cats yeah the
40:32duplex in
40:33the east side okay
40:37james what's you guys at that point
40:39no james left after dinner
40:42around 4 30. okay um
40:53was he not getting along with rose or no
40:56yeah you'd work
40:57oh okay um
41:01that sucks
41:04working on the 4th of july
41:06um something
41:09mr drop
41:10did rose get dropped off at cat's duplex
41:13yes
41:14we'll refer to cat's house as a duplex
41:17yep cress
41:18cress is the farm we grow
41:21berries yup my house is my house that's
41:25how i refer gotcha yeah
41:27um
41:31where are we sunday night about seven
41:34grand
41:36rose dropped off we get to my house
41:40and we go to my house in deforest
41:43wednesday
41:44we feed the girls
41:46we put her clothes that she brought the
41:49wet stuff in the dryer
41:51because that's what she needed to do
41:55we get her clothes dry
41:57that's after we get back actually
42:00um
42:02and then we go to dance
42:04okay
42:05um for the fireworks that he asked us to
42:08come by 8 30.
42:11um
42:12for some reason i i was trying to leave
42:14but i was making a
42:17joke about it that we were gonna be late
42:20like stuff like that
42:21goofy crap
42:23uh i drove to dance okay which car were
42:26you guys my dad's
42:28also blue the one in the grad
42:31yeah
42:33gotcha
42:35then we get there we stay for
42:3945 to an hour
42:42that's how i got the bottle rocket marks
42:44show me those
42:46that
42:47oh
42:48this sparks
42:50was a mod or something that flew back
42:53back out of it
42:55yeah that one stuck in for a little bit
42:57that's why it's so bad but these are
42:59sparks okay those are the dancehalls you
43:01got those pants
43:05i i didn't know the stick
43:07you weren't you don't hold the stick
43:09this thing flies well
43:14um
43:20so you're over at dan's house about 45
43:23minutes to an hour yeah get my hands a
43:25little bit
43:26oh we find a firework that it spins and
43:30takes off and it
43:32went straight to the bush
43:34so we were like no more of that
43:37we're done
43:38um
43:42did it light the bush on fire
43:45no no thankfully it wasn't hot enough
43:47for that good
43:49after that we cleaned
43:51i gave him a bottle of wine as a thank
43:53you for letting us
43:55come
43:58all right
43:59thankfully i still have a couple
44:02bottles at home
44:07um
44:08while we're there dan had a few beers
44:11his girlfriend was there for fiance or
44:15wife
44:16i'm not sure the relationship but she
44:19was there
44:21your name
44:23never got her name
44:25it's just dan's girlfriend she's got
44:27purple hair she's id at matc
44:30the school is on it
44:32okay
44:34anybody else there just the two of us
44:37and then the neighbors watched
44:39one to our left and one across the
44:41street
44:42one group
44:45um the one across the street had some
44:47cooler stuff than
44:49i've ever seen a person be able to own
44:51or firework-wise
44:56um
44:57but there there we are
44:59and then
45:00then someone in the distance kind of
45:02closer to our house launched a mortar
45:06artillery firework
45:08and then i was like okay we have to go
45:11home for the darks so we went
45:13and that was
45:15pushing
45:189 30 9 45
45:20we got home
45:23we
45:25got into the couch fort
45:34and
45:35put on daybreak was the apocalypse show
45:38daybreak
45:40um
45:42put on that because we're trying to
45:44finish it on netflix yes
45:47um this is cat and i still yeah spending
45:50the night
45:51um the whole time dogs are
45:53pushing me nosing me and everything
45:56and so we kind of stop and
45:59stop watching and she goes to bed
46:02um
46:04i'm trying to let the dogs out or at
46:06least go back in a little bit
46:08but the fireworks they she
46:11they
46:12couldn't um
46:14we get to bed upstairs in my room
46:17uh
46:18because she doesn't like the couch
46:21and she had work in the morning yeah
46:24and
46:25i'd say that's 10-ish 10-0 10 30.
46:30and the whole time the younger dog keeps
46:32jumping on us
46:34um
46:35so i leave cat in the bed and i go sit
46:38out out down in the
46:40the couches and chairs down by the real
46:44dinner table
46:45i go sit there and just hang out with
46:47the dogs so can't get asleep
46:50where we first started talking last
46:51night yes like the main kitchen dining
46:53room and the coaches okay i'd say down
46:55there so cat can get some sleep because
46:57i don't work tomorrow she does
47:00um then i put the ladder in front of
47:02those steps so the girls can't come up
47:06i
47:07they pee on the kitchen
47:10the tile so i clean that and like well
47:13at least they went before bed you know
47:16it wasn't the worst thing they're not
47:17gonna go outside yeah
47:20then i go to bed
47:22okay
47:24then it's monday morning
47:27cat goes to work
47:297 50
47:30ish
47:31maybe earlier
47:33but i'm left to myself so
47:37we put on new girl in the couch for it
47:39on monday morning
47:44i go back and forth through some video
47:46games and then back
47:49video games
47:58back and then
48:05those don't like to stand up very good
48:07okay i'm sorry i'm trying to stretch a
48:08little bit
48:10right um
48:13video games this is wonderful
48:19um again later i have a little bit to
48:22eat for lunch
48:28hi well at the end of the day on monday
48:32i did go
48:35for the afternoon
48:36i did go to the farm to talk to chris
48:40and cat's mom
48:42i told them what's happening with my
48:44health because i had the appointment at
48:462. did you go to the farm before or
48:49after after
48:51i told them what happened to me
48:53and i told them
48:54the legs are probably going to be
48:56permanent
48:57and the headaches should be fixed after
49:00the hemorrhage just cleared a little bit
49:04so
49:06now that i'm there
49:11i talked to their mom
49:13um
49:17and crest together
49:19and
49:21i think kent's mom is
49:24all right with me
49:26she's
49:29i don't know if she wants me to move
49:30into her
49:32the east side
49:34cat's house okay and start paying rent
49:36as an apartment because she doesn't like
49:38that i live at home does cat live with
49:40their mom or
49:41that has an apartment okay somewhere
49:45cat knows yeah it's on
49:48it's by mifflin
49:49the party avenue it's by there um
49:56okay
49:59so
49:59i'm there talking to their mom and chris
50:04then i um
50:06then i go up
50:08the half
50:10you know break down by their shed and
50:13they go
50:14swimming
50:16um
50:17right by this swimming pool is shed so
50:19they're
50:20they wanted to watch me like
50:23you
50:24know breakdown and all that so after i
50:29noticed they're just watching i
50:31just
50:32walk over to him
50:36describe your breakdown to me
50:38uh
50:39i actually cried
50:43started kicking grass
50:46just doing the toddler tantrum [ __ ]
50:49um then i
50:52hopped in the water with them okay so it
50:54was
50:55too late i was in the water and i
50:58realized crest didn't have a top
51:00um and that was uncomfortable
51:02but i talked to them more and that's
51:04what she brought up the housing
51:05situation how she doesn't like
51:08how my parents like
51:11are
51:12i guess i don't know if she knows
51:14she doesn't know them that well if she's
51:16never met them okay chris was saying
51:18that
51:19cat's mom no it's mommy's
51:25her first thought right away
51:27so that she's
51:29so they're offering me to get a job
51:33live with
51:34them work for them while i'm working
51:38and pay rent and that's kind of their
51:41their deal i would have like a month for
51:43your rent or a month or two maybe if if
51:46they're thinking um
51:49i could be able to borrow a car
51:51from crest maybe if she's nice or not
51:54using it i'd be able to go to work
51:57and she have a lot of cars or something
51:59no no okay there's an extra one probably
52:03stays at the farm okay so if she didn't
52:06need it i could use it sure to go
52:10to a job or at least interviews yeah
52:15i was hoping for a job
52:16you know near where i live so i could
52:18like
52:20keep me you know yeah these going i
52:22don't wanna i don't think they can get
52:24worse but i i could keep doing it you
52:26know
52:28um
52:37what were you having a breakdown about
52:41you ever have
52:42your legs
52:44no i haven't
52:48i don't even know if they're done eating
52:50like as bad as they they can be yet so
52:52that's a
52:54that's not fun and i think you were
52:56telling me last night it was it's a
52:57symptom of a concussion right so right
53:00that's not it that's a it's a symptom of
53:02nerve damage from the hip spine
53:05permanent okay i understand that no
53:08better yeah
53:09um so it's just legs i think it's
53:13always feeling is
53:15probably colostomy bag down the road and
53:18all of that but
53:19here we are sunday
53:24okay we're sitting in the pool we're
53:26hanging out
53:30um
53:32they're just talking to me
53:35sometimes they're being nice sometimes
53:36they're like making the offer like hey
53:38if you move in you can pay a run this is
53:40a good neighborhood
53:43it's cul-de-sac there's parking
53:48so
53:50yeah on the east side just off of
53:52milwaukee street that's andrew andrew
53:55you take a left turn onto andrew
53:58yep
54:00so that's it
54:02um so it's a good neighborhood
54:05kind of like the one by my parents
54:09i mm-hmm
54:10i live there i at least be on
54:12doing my own thing
54:15and then they're like well
54:17appreciate you stopping by so i i i head
54:20out
54:21and i go
54:23that was monday afternoon i go to dinner
54:25at
54:26cat's house on the east side okay
54:30what time do you think that was
54:35had to be 7 30 i left the farm which is
54:38presses 7 30 pm
54:43okay
54:45so
54:51all right my cat
54:55and then
54:56she's
54:59she's planning on feeding me
55:02this is monday correct yeah
55:05that's after the fine stone of the crust
55:12i think we just eat
55:14and cuddle a little bit
55:16okay
55:17i go home
55:20there's the girls um
55:22let him out
55:23and go to bed because i
55:25kind of had a date yeah
55:28what time do you think you left her
55:30place that's
55:31nine
55:36um
55:39she didn't come with you
55:40no he's alone that night
55:47i don't okay want to drag her away
55:49sure i think she stayed at her apartment
55:51or her house that night not apartment
55:53okay
55:55so
55:56there we are
56:00tuesday tuesday morning
56:03i was just
56:11i can't remember tuesday um
56:14oh dan wakes me up i believe with
56:18something or not wakes me up i i did the
56:20six again with the dogs and the food but
56:23i got back in bed i don't know if i
56:24passed out or zoned out a little bit but
56:30um
56:31dan is worried about my mom on tuesday i
56:34think
56:36did he call he said no no word my mom
56:40i don't know if he called
56:42i think
56:47then i'm like oh it's tuesday morning
56:49they should be here
56:50um
56:52a little worried i think i called my mom
56:54that day
56:59all right and then
57:02you judge her
57:06it's always the
57:09the voicemail it's a voicemail you know
57:12yeah so
57:13it's off out of range
57:16i don't know the other factors that
57:17could give you that it's like a
57:19voicemail right away it goes right to
57:21voicemail right yeah okay so whatever
57:23factors can give you that
57:25so i might have missed it so from the
57:27time like they left
57:29did you talk to them at all when they
57:31were i got it
57:33you got the one text yeah
57:35that you mentioned earlier
57:37right yeah but that was it
57:39nothing else yeah so that's
57:41that's fishy to me even the text because
57:43i realized memorial day is when the
57:45white light parade is
57:47oh sure
57:49there's no fourth of july maybe there's
57:51cheap drinks but there's no parade quite
57:54like
57:54on the fourth
57:56so
57:58well maybe there is now
58:01i realize i have i've always gone on
58:02memorial
58:04because that's that's the second night i
58:11so basically from the time that they're
58:13gone
58:14at the cabin in your home you know
58:17running around doing what you're doing
58:19you just have one communication with mom
58:22yeah that's kind of how i would be i
58:24just assumed the amount of people
58:27the where they are at and whether
58:28they're all well i understand i'm just
58:30making sure
58:32her not contacting but this is the only
58:34text was there anything with dad no i i
58:37don't even bother talking to him he he
58:39wouldn't use his phone while he's up
58:41there he loves it
58:45you know
58:46does he keep us going on him when he's
58:47up there
58:49it's usually in the car oh okay
58:52um
58:53my brother and i just text all the time
58:55while we're up there
58:57we set up
58:58wire and tires sometimes they make
59:00better connections sure
59:03um so here we are
59:05where tuesday um called mom voicemail
59:08immediately voicemail immediately
59:10tuesday
59:13where dan dan called worried about mom
59:16not coming to work you had already fed
59:18the dogs and that before ben called it
59:21or reached out to
59:40so
59:42i'm doing this part
59:47i got a coffee and a quick trip one day
59:52well i think that could have been
59:53tuesday morning
59:54okay
59:55a quick trip i got a coffee
59:58and i
1:00:00um i used my dad's number at a quick
1:00:02trip
1:00:03to get me the free one because it worked
1:00:06yeah i could have i could have afforded
1:00:08it but you know there's a free one and
1:00:10it's tuesday or it wasn't monday i could
1:00:12have gotten a dollar one but
1:00:15it was full price i believe and i
1:00:16grabbed that the coffee because it was a
1:00:18free one he hasn't used it for weeks so
1:00:21i grabbed that had a quick trip
1:00:24i couldn't tell you which one i was just
1:00:25driving at that point
1:00:27um
1:00:29when you get one user it's rewards card
1:00:31is what they call it right yeah into
1:00:32centers phone numbers
1:00:34you type it
1:00:36okay
1:00:37[Music]
1:00:40but i got coffee had to be
1:00:42i'm assuming tuesday
1:00:45and i got a free one
1:00:48sweet it's it was terrible oh what hey
1:00:51yeah i wanted to try group of gold yeah
1:00:54that wasn't bad
1:00:56um they weren't tuesday
1:00:59uh cats working up
1:01:01not
1:01:02gaming job hunt
1:01:04and then i um
1:01:06then i started trying to
1:01:08get the glass
1:01:10because i've
1:01:12been a little
1:01:13lazy on the glass i just kind of had
1:01:15chairs in front of it i just broom and
1:01:20you know a little sweeper holder you
1:01:22know you broom it into that dustpan yeah
1:01:26um
1:01:27tossing the glass
1:01:29into recycling
1:01:33um
1:01:35i get most of it there's there's a bunch
1:01:37in the cracks of the stone
1:01:39that i'm picking out by hand
1:01:42i think i didn't injure myself from that
1:01:44but
1:01:46um
1:01:47just
1:01:53okay
1:01:54i'm just down
1:01:58my blood was
1:02:00kind of on the floor so i got the
1:02:01swiffer i borrowed from cat
1:02:04from the the foot
1:02:07i borrowed a swiffer to mop
1:02:09i swiffered the the floor for like not
1:02:12the stone but the floor
1:02:14and then i got a little bit in the
1:02:16kitchen
1:02:17and then everywhere kind of i walked
1:02:19pretty much the bathroom the kitchen
1:02:23and then
1:02:24i i couldn't get the carpet so i still
1:02:26stained that up real crappy
1:02:28where was their carpet at the stairs
1:02:30between basement and kitchen carpet oh
1:02:33that's right carpet stays
1:02:36um
1:02:36i tried
1:02:38i can't get it out
1:02:41i don't know how to do that but
1:02:44um then all the way up to my
1:02:47laundry room where i found my first aid
1:02:49kit
1:02:50i just tried to stop all the bleeding
1:02:52but i you know it wouldn't stop
1:02:54so
1:02:57that blood was all coming from your left
1:02:59foot yeah left foot hole
1:03:03a foothold yeah
1:03:05i mean we're talking are we talking
1:03:07massive amounts of blood are we talking
1:03:09you know a little bit like described
1:03:12he started his traps
1:03:15until i got to the bathroom
1:03:18and then i got back to go grab my sock
1:03:21and some of the
1:03:22paper towel
1:03:24and then i see the glasses in there so i
1:03:26grab a tweezer and pull it out and then
1:03:27it starts
1:03:29squirting out like i got some
1:03:32on a little bit of the rock it wasn't
1:03:34that bad of a rock but
1:03:36it um
1:03:39i think the worst was the
1:03:41that floor
1:03:42that like
1:03:44kind of like
1:03:45you know like this lid puddles
1:03:49wasn't good without the floor down in
1:03:51the basement
1:03:52well
1:03:53that one
1:03:54um
1:03:56and then i go upstairs
1:03:58to the kitchen
1:04:00and it's still going and i'm trying to
1:04:02get my foot in the sink just to slow it
1:04:04down and pinch it maybe
1:04:09and then i waddle upstairs to
1:04:13the
1:04:15the the eye factor the
1:04:17the first stage
1:04:20and
1:04:22once i got it kind of
1:04:23bundled up
1:04:25that's stopped for
1:04:27what i know
1:04:30then i go
1:04:32i need to get some tape
1:04:35um we have a tape box in the basement i
1:04:37go there and i i opened it up again
1:04:41i bled a little bit more but the
1:04:42basement was easy to clean that's just
1:04:45cement
1:04:46a little bit of water and i would rag
1:04:48that up
1:04:49but then i grabbed the tape box and i
1:04:51wrapped it
1:04:52um after
1:04:55that that was that's tuesday
1:04:57yep
1:05:00that's tuesday
1:05:05wings i go to cats
1:05:07oh okay we had wings what time
1:05:10um
1:05:11then it could have been
1:05:13i've been doing the
1:05:15bs of first aid you know that i go to
1:05:17cat's house with her mom and her brother
1:05:20that could have been
1:05:23five or six
1:05:25i can't give you the exact
1:05:28did you guys pick up the wings and go
1:05:29there
1:05:31no i
1:05:32i drove to
1:05:34cats straight there
1:05:37um would you drive the subaru
1:05:40car choice i just
1:05:42um the with the volvo's seat
1:05:45it like
1:05:48you know i can't do it with my foot okay
1:05:50um
1:05:56so we're talking about wings
1:05:58do you guys go pick up wings or yeah so
1:06:01we get there
1:06:02and we're calling around see let's stop
1:06:05james is getting home with jimmy john's
1:06:11um
1:06:12and we're like oh you don't eat all of
1:06:15it he's like i'm hungry now do all that
1:06:21eats half of sandwich and then we go cat
1:06:24night the two of us in my car we go to
1:06:29buffalo wild wings
1:06:33do you remember which one
1:06:35i couldn't tell you okay i don't
1:06:38um
1:06:43it had to be east right that's close
1:06:45yeah it's by a mall
1:06:48room it's by mall
1:06:49there's a mall
1:06:51um
1:06:52we go in we get the wings we go out
1:06:59we go to cats we eat
1:07:03um we watch this movie
1:07:05pretty in pink or something it's about a
1:07:07girl
1:07:08that likes
1:07:09fashion and goes to harvard
1:07:13so is that on netflix or is normal tv
1:07:18they have like everything there i didn't
1:07:22i didn't know
1:07:23all right so he hit the wings at cats
1:07:25what's pretty in pink
1:07:28yeah it's what it is but um
1:07:32the four of us had did we all eat
1:07:34okay and then
1:07:36went upstairs laid down in our bed for a
1:07:38few minutes
1:07:43just letting the food settle or yeah
1:07:45hanging out
1:07:46i
1:07:47noticed she's kind of
1:07:49falling asleep
1:07:52so i'm like okay i'm ready to get out of
1:07:54here
1:07:55and i go home
1:07:58get the girls all ready for bed going
1:08:00outside
1:08:02get them water
1:08:06what time do you think you made it home
1:08:11say nine
1:08:13like the latest um
1:08:18two girls
1:08:20water well not really food they could
1:08:22eat before good water
1:08:25and play like indoor play time and yeah
1:08:28bathroom
1:08:29sure
1:08:30so
1:08:33did you guys go to
1:08:34so you were home alone then um i've been
1:08:37home alone this whole weekend really
1:08:39except when cat comes yeah yeah didn't
1:08:41come that night
1:08:44so now we're we're pushing wednesday
1:08:46aren't we um
1:08:52what time do you think you went to bed
1:08:53on tuesday night
1:08:55um probably were you getting close then
1:08:58i got home 10 at the latest
1:09:04kind of been
1:09:05tired
1:09:06lately sure
1:09:07um then the
1:09:09morning on
1:09:12sunday
1:09:13no wait where are we
1:09:15wednesday okay so wednesday
1:09:17um
1:09:19i
1:09:20try to go to the farm i keep spamming
1:09:23crests expand the crest
1:09:26i kind of need someone to talk to
1:09:27because freaking out about my parents
1:09:30um jane's calling me
1:09:32i give her the address to go to the farm
1:09:34aaron to the to the cabin
1:09:37jane jane helgendorf
1:09:43um
1:09:44never picked up from cress
1:09:47so i go home
1:09:52did you drive over to the farm or uh
1:09:54yeah yeah yeah
1:09:56because she wasn't answering her phone
1:09:58right so i got close but then i realized
1:10:00i can't just show up they'd shoot me
1:10:04i don't know when i drive or
1:10:07what they look like with a hat on they
1:10:09got guns over there or
1:10:11would they actually shoot you
1:10:12no i'm just saying
1:10:14her dad lives there he's he's 90.
1:10:18he he got a buck when he was 95 or
1:10:21something so i i know if he didn't know
1:10:24who i was he could have yeah
1:10:27so he's he's a whole
1:10:32he can use a gun that's why i wouldn't
1:10:34do that yeah
1:10:36so cress's dad lives there too yeah
1:10:39who's put is a crescent farmer
1:10:41he built it oh okay and then she lives
1:10:44there she's managing the property
1:10:46because he's in a chair yeah he's old
1:10:49um
1:10:52so then it's it's not really a farm it's
1:10:54a
1:10:55farm hobby farm yeah yeah okay
1:10:57it hasn't ever been there let
1:10:59wildflowers grow for the the beast
1:11:01that's pretty much it then their own
1:11:03berries but it's um
1:11:06then here we are
1:11:07i turn around and then
1:11:10jane calls
1:11:12i get a picture of the property at the
1:11:15cabin
1:11:17i see that
1:11:20so i'm looking at the cabin
1:11:24then it doesn't look right there's a
1:11:26birch tree
1:11:27in in front
1:11:30and i didn't like the look of it because
1:11:32that didn't
1:11:33it didn't just sit right with me a
1:11:34little bit but i it looked like tracks
1:11:37were pushed down into the grass a little
1:11:39bit i don't know in the picture
1:11:42and mike said there was like light
1:11:44tracks like someone was there
1:11:48where was the birch tree at it looked
1:11:50like it was in the middle of the drive
1:11:52and sometimes we do do that we
1:11:55find a fallen log and we put it
1:11:58like a you know a double door entrance
1:12:01so you go in from the gate
1:12:03you park you move the next
1:12:05and then you drive yeah sure so that's
1:12:08like the only security we can get up
1:12:10there
1:12:13so we have done that before
1:12:15the grass is overgrown but that's from
1:12:18the storm and the fallen trees you can't
1:12:20mow there because the flowers
1:12:28so with the birch tree i mean if you
1:12:30guys typically put stuff down like
1:12:32security why did it look weird to you
1:12:35this time
1:12:36i've never seen that log we have we have
1:12:39this log that's close to the shed
1:12:42it's
1:12:44i would say closer to petrified than
1:12:46rotten it's hard like really hard
1:12:50yeah i don't know what kind of tree but
1:12:52that's what
1:12:53my dad and i use when we go
1:12:56so we typically use the same tree this
1:12:58one just seemed out of place too yeah
1:13:00that's not the treatment
1:13:10wednesday morning uh jane sends you a
1:13:12picture of the cabin you see the birch
1:13:14street and look all right
1:13:16then i go to the police station
1:13:18because i ask her
1:13:20when should i make a thing uh point
1:13:22period
1:13:27i'm sorry
1:13:28no worries man
1:13:32wednesday morning you said you went to
1:13:34the police department yeah to make uh
1:13:38i'll
1:13:40talk to him about my parents
1:13:42and um then i met with three sheriffs
1:13:47okay
1:13:48three is a three
1:13:50there was a
1:13:52celie
1:13:53he's a bearded the guy that drove me
1:13:55here i'm not sure the name
1:13:58and then collins
1:14:03she was also doing
1:14:06canvassing
1:14:09it's canvassing
1:14:12so here we are throws three
1:14:14i get the questions answered
1:14:17then
1:14:21oh then we go to my house
1:14:23and then there's three more the same
1:14:25three shares
1:14:28uh so they talk to you at the police
1:14:30station or wherever you yeah it gets
1:14:32information and stuff and then they came
1:14:34to your house yeah
1:14:35yeah
1:14:36okay
1:14:37and that's probably about then i came a
1:14:39couple hours later they were there
1:14:41questioning you're here now questioning
1:14:44and then
1:14:45that night today
1:14:48what night are we on wednesday wednesday
1:14:50night
1:14:51i go to dan and mary's
1:14:54wednesday night wednesday night what
1:14:56time do you think they feed me
1:14:58um i had probably seven seven thirty
1:15:02and he said he went to
1:15:03dana mary's house or mary sesto and dan
1:15:08something a [ __ ]
1:15:11so mary says those houses mary says this
1:15:13house
1:15:14it's
1:15:15it's um on the same road as yours yeah
1:15:18okay just up
1:15:20around
1:15:21for dinner you went there yeah well they
1:15:23just said they didn't eat okay they just
1:15:26wanted to brainstorm
1:15:30any good ideas come out of it
1:15:33no okay so you said you only could think
1:15:36of dan and dansman here yeah
1:15:38so you said you went to the the police
1:15:40department to
1:15:42talk about your parents what just tell
1:15:44me what exactly do they talk about
1:15:46your parents with the deputies about oh
1:15:49we're making a report
1:15:50of a report that i thought i had to do
1:15:53that at station okay
1:15:56and you were reporting
1:15:58like what were you reporting exactly
1:16:00just i just want to write down and yeah
1:16:02have it on there uh
1:16:04they're missing this okay
1:16:08gotcha
1:16:11and
1:16:12as far as as far as you know
1:16:15um
1:16:18i mean were you able to tell we've gone
1:16:19into a lot of detail last night and
1:16:21tonight right
1:16:22yeah do you think that you gave them
1:16:26as much information as you've given me
1:16:28or do you think that you asked way more
1:16:30questions you even asked about my
1:16:32injuries yeah the bleeding and the
1:16:34fireplace yeah
1:16:37the sheriff's
1:16:38kind of gave what they need to make
1:16:40reports and you've just asked about like
1:16:43home life everything right
1:16:47okay oh so you you got more in depth
1:16:50yeah i think
1:16:51um
1:16:52wednesday here we are and throughout the
1:16:54weekend i've been calling
1:16:56[Music]
1:16:58okay
1:17:00all right um just kind of look at some
1:17:03things here so we started wednesday
1:17:06um
1:17:08mom had work you and your dad watched
1:17:10wheel of fortune i'm just gonna kind of
1:17:12read stuff back through a little bit
1:17:13okay
1:17:14but we kind of ended it last night
1:17:16because that's i've been talking to you
1:17:17since then you know so i don't think
1:17:19there's much else that i need you to
1:17:21tell me from last night
1:17:26so watching wheel of fortune you're on
1:17:28the couch table downstairs couch with
1:17:31the back to the table downstairs and
1:17:33tossing the the ball around for the dog
1:17:35and broke the last fireplace
1:17:38um your foot gets hurt dad gets mad
1:17:42right
1:17:43yeah
1:17:44mom left for work in the morning comes
1:17:46home later on um
1:17:49dog was fine not injured at all was it
1:17:51the dog or the ball that crashed into
1:17:52the glass both the ball bounced the dog
1:17:56hit it with the shoulder that's how it
1:17:57broke it went involved
1:18:01yeah probably not
1:18:03okay um
1:18:06all right um
1:18:08playing games watching youtube job
1:18:10search i'm just gonna instead of reading
1:18:13along just make sure i don't have any
1:18:15questions
1:18:16um
1:18:20you guys typically make your beds every
1:18:22day look like they were made yesterday
1:18:23when i was there yes okay we usually use
1:18:27sheets every few days in beds
1:18:34you change the sheets everywhere
1:18:36every few yeah they get changed
1:18:41or the dog carry it's kind of hard to
1:18:43sleep yeah they probably do have some
1:18:45pretty long hair or the heat they should
1:18:47um
1:18:48but
1:18:51oh
1:18:52yeah yeah
1:18:54i get it i got a dog he sheds too but
1:18:57you got two of them
1:18:58you know
1:19:00all right
1:19:07as far as
1:19:09as far as the blood on your foot
1:19:12um
1:19:13how did you clean that up so
1:19:15we were talking you got you had blood on
1:19:18swift or wet fat okay so for web jets
1:19:21and where did you get that from cat let
1:19:23me borrow it um where's it at now
1:19:27i returned it to a cat yeah
1:19:36i don't know where it's at now
1:19:39brought it back
1:19:42back
1:19:45did you use anything else
1:19:48hydrogen peroxide for the the tiles
1:19:52and the hard floors
1:19:57um
1:19:58just the big globs needed a little bit
1:20:02hydrogen peroxide did that seem to help
1:20:04get rid of the blood
1:20:06well it hurt my foot all that stuff um
1:20:09but it didn't really help
1:20:11okay it kind of just made a mess
1:20:13and when you save only on tiles i'm
1:20:15trying to remember your house i couldn't
1:20:16do carpet with it it would ruin the
1:20:18carpet right it would i think so
1:20:21um
1:20:22tiles are we talking kitchen because
1:20:24downstairs is just like cement well when
1:20:26i had some blood on the basement i used
1:20:28the peroxide
1:20:30okay basement floor and tiles in the
1:20:33kitchen yeah okay yeah i'm pretty
1:20:36excited there it wasn't as much like
1:20:39they were
1:20:40like this size pools in the kitchen okay
1:20:42i was pinching it pretty dang hard which
1:20:45was also cutting deeper because i had
1:20:47another might still have a piece of
1:20:49glass
1:20:50is that the biggest pool that you saw
1:20:52this was downstairs this was
1:20:56kind of on the stone
1:20:58close to the glass and then there was
1:21:01one right at the base kind of where the
1:21:03chairs i put
1:21:05like a good
1:21:08like
1:21:09two three inch
1:21:11diameter diameter diameter
1:21:16more than that
1:21:28did you do anything to
1:21:30so i wrote down on tuesday that you
1:21:31tried getting the glass cleaned up in
1:21:33the basement
1:21:34um tossed it in the glass or glass and
1:21:36recycling did you clean up at all when
1:21:38it actually happened
1:21:40no my dad was furious
1:21:42so he he did stuff
1:21:45to clean it yeah
1:21:46i don't know what he did
1:21:51but i he's sent me to my room upstairs
1:21:54and he did whatever he did but it still
1:21:56was on the floor after he was done okay
1:22:00um
1:22:03did your dad get injured at all when the
1:22:05glass broke did he step out in here and
1:22:07he sent me up
1:22:08all right
1:22:10don't doubt it when he gets mad he's not
1:22:13thinking
1:22:14so we don't know if your dad got hurt no
1:22:17okay no
1:22:19but
1:22:20my best guess is
1:22:21that guy reached in the fireplace and
1:22:23kind of his arm or something
1:22:29all right
1:22:32what's up the
1:22:34head pain do you guys have like tylenol
1:22:35or something
1:22:38i know you guys can't really offer
1:22:39anything like that
1:22:41like a headache
1:22:42yeah you're getting the migraines from
1:22:44all of the
1:22:46hits and stuff
1:22:47yeah
1:22:52so all right so cleaning up the blood we
1:22:53just got the swiffer and
1:22:55the hydrogen peroxide
1:22:57um just kind of smeared it around
1:23:00there's
1:23:04here's another
1:23:07paper toweling yeah
1:23:09just that okay and then there's
1:23:13i don't know
1:23:17where did all those paper towels go just
1:23:20in the trash yeah
1:23:22um some
1:23:26nice everywhere in my car trash
1:23:29in my
1:23:30my trash
1:23:34um they ended up in the car trash
1:23:37there's a bag in the car that i carried
1:23:39around it's a car trash oh it's like a
1:23:41gallon bag
1:23:42okay that's more portable than the
1:23:44garbage can
1:23:47so
1:23:48yeah bloody rag after bloody rag just
1:23:50trying to get it all up and mm-hmm
1:23:53i don't know
1:23:54it was a lot i
1:23:56i didn't feel sick so flint had been
1:23:58that much right yeah you didn't lose
1:24:00enough to pass over anything
1:24:02is there any reason to believe mom or
1:24:04dad's blood would be somewhere
1:24:07in the house have they been injured at
1:24:10all that you're aware of well my dad
1:24:13scratches his psoriasis until he
1:24:15like gushes blood okay gushing describe
1:24:19gushing to me enough to run down your
1:24:21leg like um
1:24:24like cover your leg i suppose like
1:24:26he has it on his knee
1:24:28so he does this it just like
1:24:32drips down
1:24:34uh i ask him to stop but he doesn't do
1:24:36it when he's stressed out yeah he just
1:24:39kind of like it's his tick he's yeah
1:24:41probably hitches
1:24:43does he um
1:24:45not like does it enough to get on the
1:24:46floor does it leave oh yeah yeah like
1:24:48how much like before we're talking the
1:24:50water bottle lid and the yeti lid is
1:24:52there i mean like are we talking puddles
1:24:54like that or just
1:24:55ribbons or it could be enough okay um i
1:25:00mean
1:25:01yeah you lit if he's there and i don't
1:25:02catch him soon enough oh geez
1:25:05my mom's blood
1:25:07um
1:25:08just from her bloody noses she gets
1:25:10sometimes when she wakes up
1:25:12that's why we've been doing the
1:25:14dehumidifier
1:25:16humidifier and dehumidifiers yeah
1:25:20probably downstairs you get that we have
1:25:22to do multiple of them but she can't be
1:25:24in the living room too long because
1:25:26that's a dehumidifier you know if she
1:25:28does
1:25:29or knows it's
1:25:31bad
1:25:33not like a regular one she gets it bad
1:25:37um
1:25:39but she either goes to the kitchen to
1:25:41fix it her vanity or
1:25:43the bathroom
1:25:48um when she has bloody noses are we
1:25:49talking and it's just spraying around
1:25:52does it describe
1:25:55[Music]
1:26:01um
1:26:01[Music]
1:26:03is there any reason to believe that in
1:26:05either one of their vehicles there would
1:26:06be any of their blood
1:26:11their vehicles yeah
1:26:13or anybody's vehicle let's say that um
1:26:16maybe car trash
1:26:18mom's car trash would definitely the
1:26:20past few days
1:26:22my dad's car trash
1:26:25um why would they have blood in their
1:26:27car trashes
1:26:30well my mom does the bloody noses with
1:26:32the air conditioning so okay and the
1:26:35would we have air conditioning my mom
1:26:37will we'll have to use um
1:26:40uh bring towels and stuff because
1:26:43in the hot days you can't have your
1:26:45windows open you'll you won't drive well
1:26:47no so air conditioning my mom will have
1:26:50nosebleeds
1:26:53um my dad hasn't had them
1:26:55as much as she does but he gets them
1:26:58okay
1:26:59um his are worse than my moths
1:27:06um mostly just with air conditioning but
1:27:09sometimes
1:27:10sometimes with a dehumidifier okay
1:27:14me personally just in air conditioning
1:27:18i get them
1:27:19but i'm not as bad as my parents
1:27:22it's
1:27:23not bad okay
1:27:27all right
1:27:58i just want to make sure that i'm asking
1:28:00everything so i don't have to keep
1:28:01calling again stuff do you know my
1:28:03brother is he okay
1:28:05mitch yeah did he make it
1:28:07i know that's a long drive he hasn't
1:28:09called dude yeah he hasn't called me at
1:28:11all so i
1:28:12know ever done a trip like that so it's
1:28:13i don't don't
1:28:16like three hours three and a half or
1:28:17later
1:28:18okay
1:28:21okay
1:28:24um as far as up at the cabin
1:28:28when do you think the last time you were
1:28:30up there
1:28:31personally last year last year memorial
1:28:34a day i believe if there wasn't a
1:28:36weekend before memorial
1:28:41i didn't make the parade
1:28:43i never got through last year
1:28:46when do you think the last time your mom
1:28:48or dad were at the cabin before my dad
1:28:50went when my brother was diagnosed with
1:28:53diabetes
1:28:55when was that
1:28:57the weekend before my concussion so
1:29:00one two three
1:29:02not including this week three
1:29:05four
1:29:07yeah four
1:29:09four weeks did you bring it up brother
1:29:11doing okay
1:29:13he wasn't born with diabetes no this was
1:29:16okay i think it's the kind you're born
1:29:18in june of this year i think three four
1:29:19weeks ago yeah okay
1:29:21he went up
1:29:22notice uh
1:29:24our plumbing's gone to crap and he
1:29:27bought a new
1:29:28set or something at a fleet farmer home
1:29:30depot or
1:29:31it's like a
1:29:34it's like a four-way converter type
1:29:36thing for the plumbing
1:29:38something for the cabin yeah for the
1:29:40cabin it's for like a toilet or yeah we
1:29:43have a toilet up there actually now nice
1:29:46um not just an outhouse no there is an
1:29:48outhouse
1:30:04thank you
1:30:05like three of them work
1:30:09appreciate it you better know what man
1:30:11i'll drop them on there thanks jim
1:30:17i stay advent
1:30:18right put them on you put them on your
1:30:20mouth already
1:30:22that's definitely there
1:30:23no i just can't
1:30:25uh so the plumbing went through them no
1:30:27no is it like uh
1:30:29was it a sink or a toilet or what was it
1:30:32with the plumbing that went bad um
1:30:35so when we have to pour water in every
1:30:37time we go up to start the pump
1:30:40okay
1:30:41so
1:30:42some reason by pouring water in the
1:30:44water never rose in the toilet pole
1:30:47apparently so you couldn't flush it you
1:30:49know
1:30:50the water didn't come to the toilet
1:30:53so
1:30:54he needed a new thing to stop
1:30:56whatever the problem was i think leaking
1:30:59i don't know i
1:31:00didn't hear everything from him sure how
1:31:03did he find out about that
1:31:05he yeah
1:31:07how did he know that there was a
1:31:08plumbing issue up there well he went up
1:31:10there just to go see the cabin oh so
1:31:13when he went up a couple weeks ago he
1:31:14realized an issue this time he wanted to
1:31:16fix it will he fix
1:31:18the major issue
1:31:20so it won't be flooding
1:31:21the house okay the cabin
1:31:25no
1:31:26he wanted the pipe set
1:31:28to redo it okay
1:31:31because we we need new pipes because
1:31:33they're lead
1:31:36and i think we might be moving to
1:31:38plastic
1:31:40because there's no water heat we can do
1:31:42plastic yeah
1:31:46um
1:31:51okay i'm trying to figure out what that
1:31:52part was
1:31:54but that was one mitch diabetes
1:31:56the number one
1:31:59did mitch go up through with him no
1:32:02my mom and i we're kind of with mitch
1:32:04all that weekend
1:32:05and stuff dad just went to walmart
1:32:08yep and then later that week i had my
1:32:10fall
1:32:12and i i just started getting my memory
1:32:15back okay so
1:32:18where did his mom been up there this
1:32:20year at all mom has not been up
1:32:24maybe they were up there before
1:32:26uh
1:32:27no
1:32:28i think dad
1:32:30dad did it all himself maybe
1:32:33i think this is first
1:32:35and mitch hasn't been in the cabinet in
1:32:36a while right
1:32:38today today yeah i couldn't say he's
1:32:41been there he didn't go last year okay
1:32:45okay does he kind of do his own thing or
1:32:47um mitch hasn't lived with us or
1:32:51you know
1:32:52like
1:32:53he's got a family now a dog a girlfriend
1:32:56no kids but
1:32:59it's kind of
1:33:00you know i'm just like you know it is
1:33:02with brothers yeah
1:33:04just who's a coop
1:33:07got a few of myself yeah all right
1:33:10i've started thinking about that myself
1:33:12and my parents are trying to
1:33:14figure that out with me mm-hmm
1:33:20okay
1:33:23we got all the background i think right
1:33:24yeah like so
1:33:26so
1:33:27i think it's time to start talking about
1:33:28what happened to your parents
1:33:30like the truthful version
1:33:32okay
1:33:33okay
1:33:34so we have like 20 pages of writing
1:33:38we're going to start with a clean white
1:33:39piece of paper if you start telling the
1:33:41truth okay because listen listen to me
1:33:44this is the only chance you're going to
1:33:45have
1:33:46to tell us the truth okay okay what we
1:33:49listen listen
1:33:50i can't tell you what we know
1:33:52but we know you're not telling us the
1:33:53truth
1:33:54we know your parents are no longer with
1:33:55us
1:33:56okay and we know the reason why
1:33:59okay you need to tell the truth there's
1:34:02listen listen you need to tell the truth
1:34:04about what happened and just tell us why
1:34:06it happened
1:34:08okay
1:34:09if something happened if you were
1:34:10defending yourself or if you just fed up
1:34:12with stuff
1:34:13you need to tell us the truth okay
1:34:16this is your chance to tell us why
1:34:19okay
1:34:20i'll not be yes on you
1:34:22okay
1:34:27so can we do that okay okay um
1:34:40what happened
1:34:42okay can
1:34:43you know what happened we're not going
1:34:45to tell you what happened you know what
1:34:46happened you were there when it happened
1:34:50we're not bs okay
1:34:56you know more
1:34:58than you think we know i actually
1:35:00but
1:35:01there's people that have pulled us
1:35:03things we have we have evidence with
1:35:05proof
1:35:06that more has happened okay
1:35:10so your parents never made it to the
1:35:11cabin and i think you know that
1:35:18instead of doing a stand up this one
1:35:20right over here for me
1:35:22getting in here pockets at all wallet
1:35:25just a wallet
1:35:40okay
1:35:42where's your coin first at
1:35:44you just took it
1:35:46oh that's a vape and a coin first
1:36:04[Music]
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