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0:06My name is Paul
0:08Peterson and I'm Drew Peterson's
0:13brother. Drew was quite the character
0:15growing up. He was 6 years older, but he
0:19was always there for me as I was younger
0:21when I needed
0:22him. I kind of looked up to
0:25him. He went in the service. Um he was
0:29an MP and he was a guard and a sniper
0:33guard for President Ford. It was just
0:37proud of
0:38[Music]
0:43him. That guy is my brother-in-law Drew
0:48Peterson. When I look at him here and
0:50see him as a young man, I think he looks
0:52like a good guy there, doesn't he?
0:56When he got out of the army, he got a
0:58job as a officer. Drew loved being a
1:01cop. He was very good at it. That was
1:03his ambition in life is to be a police
1:05officer.
1:06Drew was doing really well. He had
1:09gotten awards. He had gotten
1:11accommodation. He was well thought of
1:13and very successful police
1:17officer. A lot of people are married to
1:19men who have some sort of positions of
1:21authority. They're like, "Well, I mean,
1:23my husband would never do that." but
1:25he's got a problem with stability and
1:27and monogamy. He had three troubled
1:31marriages. Carol Brown was Drew
1:34Peterson's first wife. They were high
1:35school
1:36sweethearts. Vicky Connelly, uh she was
1:3923, he was 28. They were um married for
1:43about nine years. They had no
1:45children, but now all eyes are on his
1:48third wife, Kathleen Savio.
1:51Despite all of his personal issues, Drew
1:53Peterson is pretty much respected in the
1:57community. And you know, although he
1:59does have some issues with his current
2:01wife, Kathleen Savio, they do have two
2:03small boys. And people are thinking,
2:05well, maybe this one, maybe this one's
2:08the one that's really going to work.
2:11But when he met a hotel clerk one night
2:13on his rounds as Sergeant Peterson, all
2:16that was going to change because there
2:17behind the counter was 16-year-old Stacy
2:23Kales. Stacy was a beautiful young girl
2:25and had really uh big plans for herself
2:29and she worked nights at a local hotel.
2:34Drew Peterson would come by her work at
2:36night, chat with her as she worked at
2:38the front desk of the hotel and they
2:40developed a
2:43[Music]
2:46relationship. Stacy turned
2:4917 and she's like, "Hey, you want to
2:52come over?" I go to her apartment. It's
2:54fully furnished. She's like, "Oh, Drew
2:57is going to stop by. You're going to
2:58meet
3:00Drew." Oh, here comes Drew.
3:04He's older and he was
3:07married. That's what bothered
3:10me. Stacy did tell me that he was
3:13married to Kathleen Savio. There was
3:15something with them monies or whatever.
3:18That part wasn't done yet cuz obviously
3:20he wasn't
3:23divorced. I thought it was a fad, but
3:26the next thing you know she was
3:27pregnant.
3:30He was 30 years older than she was. But
3:32from Stacy's point of view, she's out on
3:33her own. She doesn't really have
3:35anything. This guy's given her a place
3:37to live. He's given her a car. He's
3:39given her financial stability. It's
3:40understandable that she would go along
3:42with this.
3:45Our childhood growing up wasn't the
3:49greatest. Stacy's mother had her own
3:51demons. She just like disappeared one
3:54day. She left the house with her Bible
3:56and never came
3:57back. Stacy was like 14 or 15 at the
4:00time.
4:02[Music]
4:03The struggle we had as kids was
4:05terrible. Me and Stacy always just stuck
4:11together. After dating Stacy for 2
4:14years, Drew Peterson finally divorces
4:17Kathleen Sabio. It's finalized. That's
4:20October 10th, 2003. 8 days later, he
4:24marries
4:26Stacy. Their son Anthony was not quite 3
4:28months old.
4:31So now Stacy is my
4:33sister-in-law. It was kind of strange at
4:36first to have her be a part of the
4:38family because here she was so young.
4:43She wanted to have a family that we
4:44never had growing up.
4:47Later on, she had Lacy. She named after
4:50a sister who had died when she was a
4:52baby. And so she had two of her own
4:54children.
4:57But Stacy had Drew Peterson's two
4:59children to raise as well. She treated
5:01them like her own two biological
5:03children. So she was just shy of her
5:0521st birthday. And she is a mother of
5:13four. He did try to make her
5:17happy. We as a family really didn't get
5:19to know Stacy until after the marriage.
5:23But what we could see in Drew's
5:25relationships, it was this pattern of
5:27behavior, abusive
5:30behavior. Stacy was starting to see this
5:37behavior. He ruined so many
5:47lives. I remember this
5:49picture. You remember being there for
5:51that picture?
5:53This picture where she is smiling and
5:56happy. This is what we all know. This is
5:59what we all
6:03loved. And in that moment, she was
6:07happy. I think she thought that she
6:09could make it work
6:11out. She told me, she says, "I see you
6:16and Paul and I keep thinking, why can't
6:20I have that with him?
6:23because they were brothers.
6:29Why? She did have a dysfunctional
6:33[Music]
6:34background. So that when my
6:36brother-in-law came around, she didn't
6:38have the wherewithal to know to be
6:41careful of
6:43him. During one of the family parties, I
6:47saw a bruise on her hip and I asked her
6:49where she got it from and she wasn't one
6:51to hide the things that he did. She
6:53says, "Drew pushed me up against the TV
6:55and gave me a
6:58bruise." There were things that we were
7:00seeing, but nothing that was
7:03so horrendous that we could, you know,
7:07say, "Oh my god, you
7:09know, you need to get out."
7:11I did see him shove my sister one
7:14time, like complete launched her across
7:16the
7:18[Music]
7:19room. It just made me afraid. One of the
7:23kids saw it and I just took the kids
7:25outside. I didn't play it off like
7:27nothing happened,
7:28but didn't want the kids to see
7:33[Music]
7:35that any kind of domestic violence is
7:37about power and
7:38control. And that's what he did. And and
7:42he did it within the realm of his job.
7:44There was some issues in his job that I
7:46believe that he got a little carried
7:48away with his power and
7:55[Music]
7:56control. My name is Pastor Neil Shory
7:59and I counseledled Drew and Stacy
8:01Peterson in 2006 and 2007.
8:06It was a large church, so I was the
8:08counseling pastor for the whole church.
8:09I probably knew both of them better than
8:12anybody else knew knew them in the
8:14church. I recall my first meeting with
8:17Stacy um after a service one day on a
8:20Sunday. We met at a coffee shop right
8:23down the street and she said that often
8:26Drew had some jealousy, but it was okay
8:29because it really just meant that he
8:31loved her a lot. But I knew that
8:33something was wrong. It didn't seem like
8:36a a healthy
8:38[Music]
8:42marriage. One of the times I met with
8:44Drew and
8:45Stacy at their kitchen table, she said,
8:48"I went to see my sister who was dying
8:50of
8:51cancer." And when she came home, Drew
8:55held her against a wall and he he forced
8:59her to take articles of clothing off and
9:02he accused her of being with another
9:06man. And she told me this in front of
9:10him. And I remember thinking, I cannot
9:12believe that I'm hearing this right now.
9:16And I glanced over at Drew and he just
9:18looked cold.
9:22There was no affect. It was like looking
9:23at a
9:25reptile. He just stared ahead. And after
9:29she said that, she started sobbing. He
9:31stands up and he said,
9:34"Well, I think that's about enough for
9:36me now. Thanks for coming." And he
9:38reached out, shook my hand, and walked
9:41out of the room. And he left me sitting
9:44there with Stacy at the table.
9:48And I remember thinking, I've got to get
9:51out of this house as fast as possible.
9:54And I remember at one point praying with
9:56Stacy at the table. And I literally kept
9:58my right eye open when I prayed, which
10:00is not anything I would ever do because
10:03I think he was trying to intimidate me
10:04in that moment.
10:13It is so incredibly rare that an abused
10:19person would describe their abuse to a
10:23third party in front of their
10:26abuser. So if Stacy Peterson was being
10:29abused by Drew, this was
10:31astounding. It just begs the question,
10:34was it a cry for help?
10:39Stacy never told me that she was
10:41planning to leave Drew, but I believe
10:44that she probably
10:46was. I remember she said, "What do you
10:49do when you're married to a police
10:51officer?" I think it's very, very
10:53understandable for someone who's married
10:55to a police officer that's 30 years
10:56older than she is that she would sort of
10:59feel hopeless and and
11:01stuck. She started to walk me towards
11:04the front door. We walked down the
11:06hallway and I I remember looking to the
11:10left and that's where Drew had a home
11:12office and he was standing behind his
11:15desk staring and both of his hands were
11:19behind his back and it was ve very
11:22odd and I walked up towards him and I
11:25slowly stuck out my hand to shake it and
11:28he left his left hand behind his back
11:30and he pulls his right hand out and he
11:32shook my hand with no emotion. and and
11:35that was the last time that I saw Drew.
11:43So, this is the situation heading into
11:45the holidays of 2007. Uh Drew and Stacy
11:48have now been married for about 4 years
11:50and she is just barely out of her teens
11:52at this point. She is feeling very
11:54stifled. He is feeling super jealous and
11:57the whole thing just looks like it's a
11:59tinder box waiting to explode.
12:01And all Stacy's sister, Cassandra, could
12:03do was sit by and watch as the only
12:06person who'd ever been there for
12:08Cassandra. Basically had the walls close
12:10in around
12:13[Applause]
12:15her. She goes, "I'll make dinner. Come
12:18over." I had went over there and Stacy
12:23asked
12:24me how I felt about her getting a
12:27divorce. I said I was scared.
12:31Drew was very
12:34controlling. I looked at her and I said,
12:37"Let's go grab the kids. Let's get the
12:41out of
12:42here." And she said she couldn't because
12:46Drew was the bread
12:48winner and he would take her
12:51kids. My heart
12:54sunk. I felt helpless.
13:00This is something that we've heard time
13:02and time again. Isolation, financial
13:05control, all of these things. Stacy must
13:08have known how hard it would have been
13:10for her to get a job and support four
13:12kids. So, she really must have felt
13:15trapped.
13:18[Music]
13:21Few days after October 28th, 2007, me
13:25and my sister had plans to paint our
13:29good friend's
13:31house. So, I had called her and um
13:35she never answered her calls from me,
13:40which
13:41is not
13:44normal. Well, I stopped by the house.
13:47There was no cars in the
13:50driveway. They knock on the
13:52door. One of the kids answers the door
13:55and he said, "Mom left. Dad's out
13:57looking for
13:58her." Didn't know what to do. I just
14:02said, "F it. I'm going to call
14:05Drew." Drew answers the phone. He's out
14:09of breath. I can hear keys jingling.
14:12He's just ranting about my sister. I
14:16just knew something was wrong.
14:19Drew didn't seem all that concerned
14:22about his missing fourth wife,
14:25Stacy. It was like she took off with
14:28another man. She took
14:30$25,000 from a safe at home and she's
14:33gone. She's on a spending spree and
14:35she's with another man. He had said she
14:38left with a boyfriend. My sister didn't
14:41have a boyfriend. She wasn't allowed to
14:43have any friends. was true.
14:51Cassandra Kale's worst nightmare is
14:54coming true. The one person who has
14:56always been there for her, her sister
14:58Stacy, has
15:00vanished. Worse yet, she believes that
15:04her husband, a police officer, is behind
15:06it. But where do you go when you suspect
15:09a cop of committing a crime?
15:14[Music]
15:18Drew was the sergeant of the Bowling
15:20Brook Police Department. I didn't know
15:22what else to do. And then I just drove
15:25to Illinois State Police District
15:305. It was a Monday morning. I just got
15:33into the office and Cassandra
15:36Kales reported that her sister Stacy
15:40Peterson was missing. I got to meet
15:43Cassandra Kales and had the opportunity
15:46to talk to her.
15:49So, I'm telling this guy Drew had did
15:51something to my sister.
15:53The fact that the family alleged that a
15:56police officer was involved in her
15:58disappearance, that made this more of a
16:01significant event. But Stacy had not
16:04been gone that long. So at the time it
16:07was decided that we would
16:11[Music]
16:16wait. For 3 days I felt law enforcement
16:20were not doing
16:22anything and I didn't know what else to
16:24do and I said call the news. 23-year-old
16:27Stacy Peterson's family reported her
16:29missing on Monday. 23-year-old Stacy
16:32Anne Peterson is the wife of a patrol
16:34sergeant here with the Bowling Brook
16:36Police Department. It blows up and
16:38becomes a national news story. State
16:40police say they're searching specific
16:41areas for the wife of a Bowling Brook
16:43Police Sergeant. So far, no new clues
16:45have been found. Every national news
16:47organization was there. People always
16:50ask, "Why was there so much attention to
16:52this particular case?" It's a
16:53million-dollar question. Stacy was
16:55beautiful. She was young, but her
16:57husband was a police officer and was
17:00much older than her. And I think that
17:02that played into the suspicion. It had a
17:06lot to do with money, greed, sex, power.
17:10I mean, all the elements are at play
17:12here.
17:19After the first three or four days, we
17:21sent investigators to Bowling Brook uh
17:24to interview Drew Peterson. He said that
17:27he had also gone out and searched for
17:28that evening to no avail. We also sent
17:32crime scene technicians along to the
17:35Peterson residence, which Drew
17:38voluntarily gave consent for us to do.
17:42But there was little to no physical
17:47evidence. At the very beginning, Drew
17:50was hiding. I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry.
17:52He taped typing paper up over all his
17:55windows and its door. He would only open
17:58it, you know, maybe an inch and peek out
18:00with one
18:01eye. But it wasn't long after that he
18:04was wallowing in the media, wallowing in
18:07the limelight. He loved it. Please go
18:08home. Please leave me alone. Please
18:10don't get involved in my little world.
18:13What's going on today? Yes, we went to
18:15McDonald's. They had Happy Meals and the
18:18Gri Sandwiches. How's that? That's
18:20what's going on today. He'd come outside
18:23with his own camera. And so while the
18:25media's filming him, he's filming them.
18:28He just like he taunted. He played games
18:30with the press. Watch this.
18:34He loved the media attention. I'm going
18:37to come camp myself in front of your
18:39house and see if you like it. We'd go on
18:42the morning talk shows on the broadcast
18:44networks. He was, you know, just loving
18:46it. I believe I was a suspect from the
18:48beginning when they first started
18:49talking to me.
18:56My name is Joel Brodzky. I'm a criminal
18:58defense attorney in Chicago, Illinois.
19:02Why did you agree to do this interview
19:04today?
19:11Um, there's a lot that's unknown about
19:15Drew Peterson and a lot that's unknown
19:18about the case and a lot that I've been
19:21silent about for the last 10 years that
19:23I I finally want to get out there. They
19:26tried to put a gag order, but I think uh
19:30enough time has gone by. I don't
19:32consider myself bound by that gag order
19:34anymore. Do you remember where you were
19:36and what you were doing when you first
19:38heard the name Drew Peterson? So I had
19:41heard about it, but what really brought
19:43it to my attention was when my wife
19:45downstairs, she yelled up says, "Joel,
19:46Drew Peterson's on the Today Show." So I
19:49think this was fabricated as a lot of
19:51things have been. My first thought was,
19:53"What an idiot." I mean, the first thing
19:55you tell your client is if he's um, you
19:58know, under suspicion for a crime is,
20:00you know, shut up. If there was anything
20:02that happened to her, you know, it
20:03should be found out. And then at the
20:04end, Drew asks for a lawyer. I come home
20:07that evening and my wife said, "You know
20:09what? I called the um the Today Show and
20:11I left your name and
20:13number." Okay. Um two days later, he
20:17called me and he gave me a a corner
20:19about two blocks from where he lives. He
20:21goes, "Just drive there and wait. I'll
20:22be
20:23there." And we talked for about 45
20:26minutes. After that, Drew said, "Yep, I
20:28I want you." And from that point on, I
20:31was Drew's lawyer.
20:35But every morning I would tell him,
20:36"Stay away from the media. Don't talk."
20:39Drew it was like a moth to a
20:41flame. He couldn't stay away. And every
20:44afternoon I would see his face on the TV
20:47talking to the media. Well, I think all
20:49the people who were kept pretending to
20:51be my friends that come out. I think
20:52they were all uh financially motivated.
20:55Drew's idea was the media to him was
20:58like a toy. He liked messing with them.
21:01Can you Can you make it simple? Sooner
21:03or later, it became, "If you can't beat
21:04them, join them." I think it's time to
21:06let it go.
21:09By this time, the search for Stacy was
21:12turning from a rescue into a recovery of
21:16potentially a body. And with Drew
21:17Peterson as the prime suspect, the
21:20investigators really started to drill
21:22down on the night of October 28th. And
21:25by using his cell phone and the pings to
21:28local towers, they were able to
21:31determine that he drove um a little less
21:33than 15 minutes away from his home late
21:35on a Sunday night to the Illinois
21:38Michigan Canal. Now, why would anybody
21:40be out at midnight driving to a desolate
21:42canal, a place where you could dump
21:43anything like a body?
21:47We believe based on phone records that
21:50Drew Peterson drove to an area near the
21:53canal
21:55We had teams that were actually doing
21:57extensive searches that were searching
22:00the forest preserves, lots that were
22:03abandoned, areas along the canal.
22:06Officers searched on land and by boat.
22:09They used dogs. They were looking for
22:11clues in areas where investigators
22:13believe Stacy's body may have been left.
22:16There was reportedly cell phone activity
22:18from Stacy's phone in this area. The
22:21canal is the most unforgiving
22:24environment in the area. It's the
22:27perfect environment to hide a body with
22:30all the debris that's located
22:33there, but there was
22:36[Music]
22:38nothing. I talked to one of the divers
22:40who told me that it was feudal. That
22:42diver told me he thinks it was really
22:44done for the publicity to show people
22:46that they were trying to do something
22:47more than anything.
22:51Investigators tackle a problem from all
22:53angles. And so, while the divers are
22:55down looking for a potential body, the
22:58investigators are actually looking at
23:00Stacy's last movements before she
23:02disappeared. And lo and behold, they
23:03discover that a few months before she
23:05vanished, she'd been in contact with a
23:08guy that she liked in high school.
23:11investigators pulled the phone records
23:13and Stacy had several phone calls and
23:17text messages uh to Scott Rosettto.
23:21Scott hadn't heard from her in a long
23:23time and then all of a sudden in the
23:25fall of 2007, he hears from Stacy. She's
23:29not happy in her marriage. They start
23:31texting a lot and they meet up a couple
23:33times.
23:34Drew suspected that there might be
23:37something more to the
23:40relationship and Drew was probably
23:44correct on that.
23:59Scott Rosettto was interviewed several
24:01times by investigators.
24:05Most of the time we were together was
24:06her just talking about, you know, like
24:08relationship type thing stuff. She said
24:10she wanted a divorce and it was going to
24:11work out.
24:14The initial theory was that Drew
24:15discovered these racy text messages
24:18between Stacy and Scott
24:24Rosetta in the fall of 2007, like
24:27August, September 2007.
24:37Scott said that Stacy reached out to him
24:39out of the blue, that she found his
24:41number and gave him a call. They went
24:43out to a Denny's for lunch
24:47together. He said Drew showed up, which
24:50was strange in itself. He was very
24:53likely tracking Stacy's movements.
24:56They really were flirtatious. But Scott
24:59never went there. He says he had a
25:01girlfriend, right? But Jaru, he's
25:04surveilling her. He's stalking
25:07her. He's in uniform and he kind of
25:10stares at
25:11Scott. He was very
25:15intimidating. He asked for some
25:17identification.
25:19So, you have to picture this from from
25:21Scott's point of view. Uh he's sitting
25:23across from this beautiful girl and sure
25:26there'd been some text flirting, you
25:28know, going going on, but but then
25:29suddenly in walks this cop service
25:33pistol and everything and he demands ID.
25:35What does he want ID for? And then he
25:38realizes, terrific, this guy's now got
25:41my
25:42address. Stacy was very upset. She
25:45walked out with Drew and then came back
25:47in very upset.
25:52The last time they texted was like 11
25:54o'clock or so that Sunday morning and uh
25:57she didn't answer any texts after
26:00that. But when Stacy disappeared, Scott
26:03Rosettto was at work. So he had an
26:06alibi. He was at work on Sunday, October
26:0928th,
26:122007. Investigators don't have much to
26:15go on. They don't have tips and and
26:17leads and this is starting to look like
26:18a dead end when out of the blue of all
26:22places they get a heads up from the
26:24Chicago field office of the FBI. It
26:27turns out a tip was called in about a
26:29guy who might know something and it
26:31turns out the guy's in the hospital
26:33after having tried to kill himself.
26:35Another person that we were interested
26:37in talking to was Drew Peterson's
26:40stepbrother Thomas Morphe. The first
26:43interview was done from a hospital room.
26:47He needed medical help and he felt very
26:52guilty about what he had done.
26:55Tom Morphe was so upset over what he
26:58believed he had assisted in that he
27:02actually tried to kill himself the next
27:04day or so. He took a lot of pills and
27:07landed in the hospital.
27:11And according to Morphe, he helped Drew
27:14Peterson remove something from the
27:18bedroom down the stairs and into the
27:20four-wheel drive
27:23[Music]
27:30SUV. How Morphe honestly knows he helped
27:33after the fact carry my sister out of
27:35that
27:39house. And that's why Tom tried killing
27:42himself.
27:44So now we might actually have something.
27:47Stacy was petite, 5'2, 100 lb soaking
27:50wet, so she easily could have fit into a
27:52container like the one Tom Morphe was
27:56describing. At the same time, the media
27:59is out there like a hungry pack of
28:01tigers, and suddenly there's this raw
28:04piece of meat. Every reporter out there
28:06wants to know more about this blue
28:09container. Drew Peterson denies reports
28:11that a relative helped him move a
28:12container that held his missing wife's
28:14body.
28:17The media laser focused in on the blue
28:19container because we had nothing else to
28:21go on. It was the only clue we had.
28:24Everybody is talking about this blue
28:25container, but Drew Peterson vehemently
28:29denies Morphy's account.
28:32Relative of yours saying you helped
28:34carry a rectangular container out of
28:35your home on October 28th. I have no
28:38idea what anybody's talking about like
28:40that. Warm to the touch? No. He says he
28:43believes that he helped you dispose of
28:44your wife's body. Can you at least
28:46respond to that?
28:48Not at all.
28:54Drew Peterson had motive to kill Stacy
28:57Peterson because of an imminent divorce
29:00where he could lose his home and he felt
29:04she was having an affair with Scott
29:08Rosettto. Stacy was a very sexy, you
29:11know, at that point 24 year old
29:14woman and Drew was jealous. I think
29:18there was just something really bizarre
29:22and dangerous about
29:28Drew. We learned after looking into the
29:32background of Drew Peterson that he had
29:35been married several times before. We
29:37learned that Drew was sometimes violent
29:41and that there was definitely marital
29:43issues.
29:44[Music]
29:50Harold Brown was Drew's first wife. She
29:53was great. I was a freshman in high
29:55school and she was a senior and she sat
29:59at the cool table. So that first
30:00freshman year of school was very cool
30:02because I was Carol's future
30:05brother-in-law. And it was sad to see
30:08them get divorced cuz she was a really
30:11good person.
30:14In
30:151974, the last thing that anyone would
30:18think is that Drew Peterson would become
30:20a household name. There are almost no
30:22photos of Drew and Carol together, but
30:25in their wedding photo, which was later
30:26published by the Chicago Sun Times, they
30:29certainly do look
30:31happy. There was no indications of any
30:34kind of domestic violence. But in my
30:36opinion, when you're speaking with
30:38someone of truce nature, a narcissist at
30:41their core, they're not going to really
30:44pay any attention to what other people
30:46think. As long as he was happy, that's
30:49truly all that
30:51mattered. With narcissists, it's almost
30:54like they can tell that someone is is is
30:58open to their
30:59manipulations, either through trauma or
31:03upbringing.
31:09Drew Peterson's second marriage was to a
31:10woman who at the time was uh Victoria
31:13Red
31:14Cavitz. She was 23. He was 28. They were
31:18married for about 9 years. They had no
31:24children. Drew was incredibly
31:26controlling with her, but she had a big
31:29personality which was a little bit
31:31different than some of the other women
31:32that he had married. So, I think that
31:34there was a lot of contention in that
31:35relationship because Vicki stood up for
31:42[Music]
31:44herself. She just wanted out. She didn't
31:47want anything from him. I think that's
31:50what allowed her to walk out of the
31:52marriage. And before he's even done with
31:55his divorce from Vicki, he meets
31:57Kathleen
31:58[Music]
32:02Savio and they're already together and
32:04he's introducing her to the family and
32:06he doesn't tell her he's married. He
32:09makes it seem like he's
32:15single. I am Nick Savio, the youngest
32:18brother of Kathleen Savio.
32:24I
32:25remember her going on dates with him and
32:28I
32:28remember the day that she told dad she
32:32was going to get married to him. And I
32:34remember dad saying, "I'm not walking
32:36you down the
32:37aisle." Dad didn't care for
32:40Drew. He said, "You never bring him
32:42around." And all of a sudden, you're
32:43marrying him. Why are we such a rush
32:46here? And uh I guess come to find out
32:48that she was pregnant.
32:52And I think she was just in a rush to
32:56have kids to start a family. And I think
32:58Drew was able to give that to
33:00her. They have two children. But
33:03Kathleen became isolated, became not the
33:07person that we
33:19[Music]
33:21knew. It's a It's a hard picture to
33:25swallow.
33:26[Music]
33:33And she would say things, "It's not that
33:36bad. It's It definitely
33:41is." She would go to parties with black
33:43eyes. Try to cover up makeup and maybe
33:46say, "I hit a
33:47curb." We all knew what was going on.
33:49You don't get a black eye from just
33:51falling down. It doesn't work that way.
33:58[Music]
34:03Drew Peterson claims that he never hit
34:06any of his four wives. U that it would
34:08have put his job as a police officer in
34:10jeopardy. But there are studies from
34:13that time period that suggest 40% of law
34:17enforcement have families or wives who
34:20actually experience domestic abuse. So
34:22it's a little hard to take that argument
34:23seriously.
34:26But that's the exact case that he brings
34:29to the media. And a perfect example of
34:31that is his appearance on CNN's Larry
34:34King in 2008. If I get involved in a
34:37domestic situation where I'm physical
34:39with a wife, I'll lose my job and I
34:42would never even care even come close to
34:44risking that. People have to think,
34:46well, what is going on with his family
34:48that they couldn't do anything? Drew had
34:51different categories of people in his
34:53life and he kept them separated. And so
34:57because we weren't all part of one
34:59group, we couldn't compare
35:01notes. And in going through all of this,
35:04we learned all of these things that had
35:05been going on that we weren't aware of.
35:13I think she lost all hope and
35:14everything.
35:17We believe that the people he worked
35:19with covered up for him for a lot of
35:20years there.
35:22[Music]
35:25Kathleen Savio and Drew Peterson's
35:27marriage uh certainly had its ups and
35:30downs like many marriages, but they had
35:32two beautiful boys. They had a nice
35:34house on a street in a safe Chicago area
35:36suburb. He had a good job. So, it's sort
35:39of odd how you could just be going about
35:41your life and then something so
35:44incredibly random just comes in and
35:47upends
35:49it. Stories came out that my sister was
35:53being cheated on.
35:55She got a letter
35:57[Music]
36:01from the anonymous letter.
36:05somebody cared enough to actually send
36:07this to
36:10her. You are probably well aware that
36:12your husband is having an affair. You
36:14may already have all this information,
36:15but if not, you will need to deem it to
36:17prevent any further embarrassment and
36:19disgrace to you and your family. This
36:21affair has been going on for several
36:22months. Because of her age, 17 and
36:25because of Drew's age and his
36:26occupation, he holds a position of
36:29authority over here. Drew could be
36:32charged criminally for this intimate
36:34involvement with this
36:39minor. My sister's worst fears come to
36:43fruition, but it had to be confirmed
36:45from an anonymous letter that her
36:48marriage is basically over falling
36:52apart. I think she was like 32, 33 and
36:55this girl's 16 years younger than her.
37:00And that was really bothersome.
37:06My name is Harry Smith and I was
37:08Kathleen Savio's prior family law
37:12attorney. That letter she received
37:14incited Kathleen to confront him. She
37:17asked me to represent her against Drew.
37:21The Savio Peterson divorce was extremely
37:25acrimonious.
37:26There would be fights every time there
37:29was a handover of the
37:31children. Once Droop began slamming on
37:34the horn and screaming for Kathleen to
37:37come out and get the boys from his
37:40truck. Stacy, very pregnant, is in the
37:43front passenger
37:45seat. Kathleen comes out. Stacy gets out
37:49and the fight begins with his children
37:51watching from car seats.
37:54Kathleen wasn't perfect. She would not
37:57back down from a fight. Kathleen
38:00attacked a pregnant woman. And mind you,
38:03Drew is a police officer during this
38:06time. So, he grabbed Kathleen, put her
38:10in an armbar, and held her face down on
38:13the front lawn of the driveway until
38:15Bowler Bowling Brook police showed up
38:17and arrested Kathleen.
38:20She was convinced that Drew Peterson was
38:23manipulating the system and that her
38:25voice wasn't being heard.
38:27Here's the thing. Sometimes divorces are
38:29so messy that judges will actually grant
38:32the divorce and allow people to move on
38:34with their lives, get married again,
38:36move across the country, etc. Um, and
38:39then deal with the financial part
38:44afterwards. And as was the case for Drew
38:47Peterson and Kathleen Savio, they were
38:49divorced. Drew married Stacy, but the
38:52finances with Kathleen weren't settled.
38:55And if things go the way many divorces
38:58go, Drew knows he's about to lose his
39:00[Music]
39:04shirt. On March 1st, 2004, Drew Peterson
39:09uh is expected to drop the children off
39:10at Kathleen Stavio's house.
39:15He arrives at the house, knocks on the
39:17door. There's no
39:20answer. The neighbors arrive as well.
39:23Drew unlocks the
39:25door. He allows the neighbors to rush
39:30in. The neighbors find Kathleen Salvio
39:33dead in the
39:38bathtub. Drew heard screams from inside
39:40the house, so he ran in, ran up the
39:42stairs.
39:44saw Kathleen dead in the tub, grabbed
39:46her, got his DNA all over, and they
39:49called the
39:51police. That evening, Illinois State
39:54Police investigators were sent to the
39:56Peterson home. There were crime scene
39:59photos taken of that
40:03scene. And her body was found laying in
40:07that bathtub.
40:10It was believed that she had slipped and
40:13hit her head on the bathtub and she died
40:16from
40:20drowning. I remember our older sister
40:22calling me at about 4 in the
40:24morning. I remember saying, "Hey, uh,
40:26your sister sister's gone." Like,
40:29"What?
40:32What? She's gone. They found her in the
40:34bathtub." I'm like, "What?
40:40I just remember sitting there
40:42like, "She's too young. Not like
40:46[Music]
40:54this." By his account, there's Drew
40:57looking down at his dead wife in the
41:00bathtub. While at the same time, let's
41:02not forget he is still in a lawsuit
41:06where he has to pay child support, pay
41:08alimony, split the house, and probably
41:11split his pension for the 11 years that
41:13they were
41:14married. Now he doesn't have to write
41:16those checks anymore.
41:18As we finally prepare for trial, which
41:21Drew has avoided on two occasions,
41:24Kathleen has an accident and is now
41:27dead.
41:29So when he told us Kathleen had died, we
41:32thought, well, isn't that convenient for
41:34[Music]
41:42you? When Stacy disappeared, law
41:46enforcement immediately took another
41:48look at Kathleen's death because two
41:52wives gone in like just like 3 4
41:57years that's like a little weird. So
42:00they took a look back at that third
42:02marriage to say hm maybe there is
42:03something here that we missed.
42:06I think that the most important document
42:08we had was the autopsy report. I went to
42:11my expert who's Dr. Michael Bodton. And
42:13I said, "Dr. Bodton, please take a look
42:15at this." The fact that she was found in
42:17a dry bathtub. There was no evidence of
42:20water. And if you look statistically at
42:22the number of people who die in
42:23bathtubs, it's almost zero. All of these
42:27factors together, this looked
42:29suspicious. He said, "Steph, this is not
42:32an accident." Dr. Bon believed that
42:35Kathleen Salvio had been
42:37murdered and literally all hell broke
42:40loose.
42:42There was pressure to exume Kathleen
42:44Safio's body and perform an additional
42:46autopsy.
42:50In consultation with the prosecutor's
42:52office, we reopened the Kathleen Savio
42:56investigation and have a second autopsy
42:59completed. During the investigation of
43:02Stacy Peterson, new information
43:05concerning the Savio death investigation
43:08came to light and that is being looked
43:11at in great detail which has caused the
43:15uh reopening of the Savio investigation
43:18by the state's attorney's office and the
43:20state
43:24police. When I heard that they reopened
43:26this case, I had my own little anxiety
43:29attack.
43:33I remember August 31st, 2007 was my last
43:37meeting with Stacy. We met at the
43:39Starbucks down the street from the
43:40church. She looked very serious and very
43:43scared and she just blurts out, "Drew
43:46killed Kathleen Savio in 2004.
43:52Stacy told me that there was one night
43:54when Drew walked in and he was wearing
43:56all black head to toe. And she looks at
44:00him and she said, "Well, where were
44:01you?" And he looked at her and he said,
44:03"You know where I
44:05was." And he didn't say anything else.
44:07He just started taking his clothes off
44:09and put him putting them in the washing
44:10machine. He sat her down and he said,
44:12"Stacy, in a few hours the police are
44:15going to come and if you tell them what
44:18I tell you to say, this will be the
44:21perfect
44:26crime." I was still pretty new in my
44:29career. I had no idea of what to do in
44:32this situation. I asked her, "What do
44:35you want me to do with this?" And she
44:36said, "I don't want you to do anything.
44:38I just want you to know." I think she
44:40was very very concerned that the same
44:43thing was going to happen to
44:46her. Drew had both a military background
44:50and then he had the police
44:53background. I think regarding Kathy, he
44:56took months to plan everything
44:59out. But how can a guy that uh
45:03meticulously plans everything out make
45:04these two mistakes? the mistake of not
45:07having Kathy cremated and not sending
45:11Stacy away for the
45:15[Music]
45:18weekend. The family clearly was
45:21concerned because the first time they
45:23had classified the death as an accident.
45:26So they came to me and said, "Well, we
45:27don't trust them. We don't trust the
45:29decision they're going to make because
45:30clearly the first time they didn't make
45:31the right decision." So I circled back
45:33around with Dr. Biden and I said, "Would
45:35you consider doing an autopsy privately
45:37on behalf of the family?" And he said,
45:40"Yes." The family agreed and that's what
45:45happened. Was my first time being at an
45:53autopsy and I
45:58remember they brought her body out. So,
46:01I stood with my back and I remember the
46:06[Music]
46:09smell. I stayed laser focused on Dr.
46:12Bond. I wouldn't even look down cuz I
46:14had a job to do.
46:19He concluded that Kathleen Salavio had
46:21been murdered based on simplistic things
46:25like there was scratches and and and uh
46:28marks on her chest, on her back, and
46:31there was a big blunt force trauma on
46:34the back of the
46:35head. Then they were forced to conduct a
46:39state authorized autopsy for their own
46:42purposes.
46:44The state had their own autopsy and came
46:47to the exact same conclusion. This
46:50became the autopsy that people really
46:52relied
46:53[Music]
46:58upon. Somebody listened. Finally,
47:01somebody cared enough to make the right
47:04decision. Finally, something went our
47:06way.
47:09Drew hasn't been charged yet with
47:11Kathleen's murder, but it's not looking
47:14good for him. He felt like he was
47:16teflon. He has committed the perfect
47:19crimes. I can kill you and make it look
47:22like an
47:23accident. Now it was a homicide.
47:27[Music]
47:39[Music]
47:44Drew Peterson was not charged yet for
47:46the murder of Kathleen Savio. We believe
47:50we had the right guy. Now we now had to
47:52prove it. We did have a body and the
47:55second autopsy determined that Kathleen
47:57Savio died by
47:59homicide and we had the records of
48:03domestic
48:05violence. If the state's attorney had
48:07what I would call wavos, he would have
48:09brought a charge on Stacy. But knowing
48:11the state's attorney, Jim Glasco, if
48:13there was going to be a charge, it was
48:15going to be with Kathy Savio because
48:18there was a body.
48:20Now, mind you, he hadn't been charged
48:22yet.
48:23Drew is appearing on these radio shows
48:26and TV shows. At the same time, a grand
48:29jury is deciding his fate and whether or
48:32not he is going to be charged with the
48:33murder of his third wife, Kathleen
48:36Savio.
48:38It was pitched to a radio station in
48:41Chicago to win a date with Drew. Can you
48:43imagine?
48:45Drew was certainly having a good time
48:47with all of this. In fact, he'd become a
48:49regular on Mancow Mueller's uh toprated
48:53Chicago radio show. It's a shock jock
48:55morning zoo show. But I don't think that
48:58Drew Peterson at any point was betting
49:00on Stacy's family listening in.
49:05I was working
49:06and I just heard him talking on the
49:10show. I got sick of it and I just I'm
49:13calling in. Cassandra. Yes. You're Stacy
49:16Peterson's sister. Correct. He was
49:19making it out to be some kind of
49:21amusement for
49:23himself. It was just disgusting. What'd
49:26you do to my sister? Not a thing. You
49:28killed her after she got off the phone
49:30between 10:15 and 10:59. You will pay
49:34your back, Drew. Drew, just keep talking
49:35cuz you keep digging yourself in a
49:37deeper hole.
49:39Well, I never heard a accused murderer
49:41going on the radio to joke about things,
49:43much less the family calling up to
49:45confront them. I I mean this was all new
49:47to everyone. I think
49:50it was very surreal.
49:52A mother of two has been missing.
49:54Friends and relatives say they're
49:55convinced she's the victim of foul play.
49:58We knew that the arrest was imminent and
50:01that we had to make sure that this was
50:04handled the right way.
50:14I had gotten tips that Drew was going to
50:15be arrested. They said be at his house
50:17early in the morning. Drew had to have
50:20known the hammer was about to
50:22fall. The police had orchestrated a very
50:26careful arrest.
50:31They pulled him over. They got him out
50:32of the car. They handcuffed him. But he
50:34knew where the cameras were. He knew
50:35where to look. as he was being taken off
50:38into the car, screaming and yelling
50:40things to the media.
50:43There's a famous video of him in a red
50:45jumpsuit and he's shackled and he's got,
50:49you know, the his wrists are also cuffed
50:51and he's like looking up. He's looking
50:53up at like some cameras and and he's
50:55like not taking it seriously.
51:00[Music]
51:08any look at this plane. It was like, "Oh
51:12my god, what's wrong with this guy? You
51:15don't take this serious yet?" I recall
51:18Drew's
51:19arrest. Happy moment. Happy. Happy. But
51:22yet, he's here smiling when he's
51:24arrested. Another shot to us. He thinks
51:28he's above the law. He's going to walk
51:29away with this. It's not not acceptable
51:32to us. It never was.
51:37[Music]
51:39I had planned to do a appearance in all
51:42three uh major morning shows in New
51:44York. The point to get across is look it
51:46whatever you think may have happened.
51:48There's no evidence. Pearsy is not
51:50evidence. It's unreliable. That's why
51:52they usually don't let it in in court.
51:53So, you know, that's it. You know, that
51:56was our that was all we were trying to
51:57get across.
51:59I got a call just as the plane was on
52:01the runway. Drew had been arrested. So I
52:04went to New York, uh, did the shows.
52:06First of all, somebody that's accused
52:07doesn't have to prove their innocence.
52:08The state has to prove their guilt
52:09beyond a reasonable doubt. And everybody
52:11that's ever been found u not guilty was
52:14initially indicted. So being indicted is
52:16not evidence of anything. Um, I think
52:18the main point in this case is going to
52:20be forensic.
52:24And then get on the plane back. He needs
52:27a lawyer.
52:30You know, I love them. You
52:31know, if you had a uh a family dog that
52:35was out biting all the neighbor kids,
52:36you may love it dearly, but you got to
52:38help put it away. Put it down. And
52:41that's kind of how I felt with Drew.
52:44Bail for Drew Peterson is set at $20
52:47million, which is effectively the judge
52:50saying, "You're not going anywhere until
52:52this thing goes to trial." And that's
52:54where the really hard part began because
52:57from the time that Drew Peterson was
52:59arrested in 2009, every single legal
53:03wrangling and complex
53:05maneuver that just ate up the next 5
53:10years. Now Drew Peterson's been charged
53:12and the state is getting ready for
53:17trial. They've got to get their evidence
53:20lined up. The question
53:22is, is it proof beyond a reasonable
53:25doubt? And will 12 jurors be
53:38convinced? It was going to be an uphill
53:40battle to prosecute Drew Peterson for
53:42Kathleen Savio's murder. At the time of
53:45her death, the state police didn't
53:47collect any evidence. At the time of his
53:49trial, there was no evidence, no
53:50physical evidence. Fingerprints, a
53:52smoking gun, I I mean, DNA, they had
53:55none of that.
53:57This was not a slam dunk case by
53:59anybody's
54:02standards. There were several challenges
54:04in the case. One was that the jury could
54:07never learn or become knowledgeable in
54:11the fact that Stacy Peterson was
54:13missing. I think it was the elephant in
54:15the room.
54:17But so much of the
54:21prosecution of Drew for Kathleen Savio's
54:24death is related to Stacy's
54:25disappearance because that's why it was
54:27reopened because she disappeared and
54:29jurors can't know that,
54:31right? The two were so intertwined that
54:34it had to have been a a huge challenge
54:37for the prosecution. You can't always
54:40get jurors who have been living under a
54:43rock and know nothing about the case
54:44when it's high-profile like
54:57this. On July 24th of 2012, a jury is
55:02actually seated for the Drew Peterson
55:05trial. And it starts to look as though
55:07this might actually be a normal trial.
55:10But this is Drew
55:12Peterson and anything can happen and the
55:16media goes hog wild.
55:26Turned into a circus again. There was
55:29this this almost carnival atmosphere.
55:32Are they trying to have expedition? How
55:34you been?
55:36Don't give a song. I remember the trial
55:39beginning and us getting there and it
55:42was like a scene out of a movie. Um, you
55:45never think you're going to be this
55:47close to cameras, all this
55:49stuff. You realize how national it
55:51really was. They were holding lottery
55:53drawings out there for people that could
55:55be at that case.
55:58One of the most anticipated witnesses at
56:01this trial was Neil Shy.
56:04He was Stacy's pastor and friend. And he
56:07was also one of the only people that
56:10Stacy had told about the night Drew came
56:12home and told her he killed Kathleen
56:15Savio.
56:17Drew Peterson's defense team did not
56:19want me to be able to testify. And it
56:21was this long drawn out thing trying to
56:23keep my testimony out. They said, "Oh,
56:25it's just hearsay. It's hearsay." But
56:27the judge at the time ruled that most of
56:30what I had to say wasn't hearsay because
56:32what he said is that based on a
56:34prepoundonderance of the evidence, it's
56:36very likely that Drew killed Stacy so
56:39that she couldn't testify about Kathleen
56:42Salvio's
56:43murder. It was extremely strange for me
56:46to be testifying on Kathleen's behalf. I
56:49think my testimony was pretty important.
56:54I believe Neil Shy's not lying, but I
56:57can't question the person that told him.
57:00So
57:03um look at
57:06uh I say trying to be careful here.
57:12Um I I believe that Pastor Shy wasn't
57:16lying. That's what Stacy told him.
57:20Right. What I'm saying is that as a
57:23lawyer, I couldn't cross-examine Stacy
57:25and what her motivation was to say that.
57:27[Music]
57:30In all, the prosecution calls 81
57:33witnesses, but then in a in a surprise
57:35move, they decide to wave their right to
57:39call the attorney who was involved in
57:42both the divorce for Kathleen and for
57:47Stacy. It's an attorney named Harry
57:49Smith.
57:52We didn't want to call Harry Smith, but
57:55Drew insisted. Drew wanted us to call
57:58him. And if we don't call a witness, the
58:01client wants us to call. I can guarantee
58:04you if he's convicted, he's going to
58:06call us out. He's going to say, "You
58:07guys didn't call a witness. I wanted to
58:09call that going to give good evidence."
58:12And that's how that happened.
58:19[Music]
58:20I testified that Stacy
58:23called me. She told me that she was
58:28considering leaving Drew and she wanted
58:30advice from me as a divorce attorney.
58:34I told Stacy Peterson that I suspected
58:39it was a conflict for me to represent
58:42her against Drew considering my
58:45representation of Kathleen Savio. She
58:48said that was okay. She just wanted to
58:50ask me a couple of questions and then I
58:53testified that Stacy told me within 2
58:57minutes of asking for a divorce consult
59:00that Drew killed Kathleen.
59:02I could see the reaction of the jury
59:04when I testified. I can't believe we got
59:07the opportunity to offer that evidence
59:09to a jury.
59:15The burden of proof is of course on the
59:17state and as their list of witnesses
59:21gets smaller and smaller, the nation is
59:23on the edge of their seat and the
59:25cameras are there to capture every
59:28moment of this drama. It was a long
59:30trial and then the judge gives the
59:32instructions to the jury. The jury goes
59:34back. So, it's just sitting and waiting
59:37and what's going through your mind is um
59:39well, if you've done enough trials, uh
59:41nothing because you realize that there's
59:43no way to predict what the jury is going
59:45to do.
59:48I remember sitting outside and there's a
59:52lot of buzz going on with the case. All
59:54of a sudden, I remember saying around
59:57after getting lunch, "We have a verdict.
1:00:00You got to get up to the
1:00:02[Music]
1:00:04courtroom." I remember that agonizing 15
1:00:08to 20 minutes just waiting for the judge
1:00:10to come. Agonizing and waiting for the
1:00:12jury to show up. You see these 12 empty
1:00:14juror seats and you're just like the
1:00:16fate is all in their hands. You're just
1:00:19sitting there with this ball of anxiety.
1:00:23One of the worst feelings I've ever had
1:00:24in the
1:00:25[Music]
1:00:37world. Jury comes back. Judge comes in,
1:00:40says, "I'll
1:00:42rise. Have you come to a verdict?" Jury
1:00:44says we the jury
1:00:48find defendant Drew
1:00:51Peterson
1:00:56guilty. Immediate
1:00:59tears. Immediate tears. It was like 8
1:01:03years. Somebody finally heard her.
1:01:09[Music]
1:01:14Justice may have been served, but again,
1:01:17it's a shame that Stacy had to disappear
1:01:18for this to
1:01:20[Music]
1:01:27happen. I don't disagree with the uh
1:01:30verdict. And not long after the guilty
1:01:34verdict, I withdrew resigned from the
1:01:36case.
1:01:37[Music]
1:01:41As if the walls weren't closing in
1:01:43enough, Drew Peterson had yet to learn
1:01:45how many years he was going to spend in
1:01:48prison for this murder. His little house
1:01:51of cards that he'd been building all his
1:01:52life certainly coming crashing
1:01:58down. So in February 2013, Drew Peterson
1:02:02is sentenced and the judge gave him 38
1:02:05years. Drew had an outburst in the
1:02:08courtroom.
1:02:12Yes, you did. This was a guy who was
1:02:15always so jocular and jovial and joking
1:02:18around. But the reality had to have sunk
1:02:21in. It's like, wow, Buster, you're going
1:02:23away for the rest of your life.
1:02:27[Music]
1:02:29The Savio family could rest easy that
1:02:32Drew Peterson was going to pay for the
1:02:34murder of Kathleen. But what about
1:02:37Stacy? She'd been missing 5 years by
1:02:40this
1:02:41time. Was anyone ever going to be
1:02:43charged in her
1:02:45case? Cassandra must know by now that
1:02:48that she's dead. But in our society,
1:02:51it's important to have a place to be
1:02:53able to mourn. And not only do they not
1:02:56know how Stacy died, they don't even
1:02:58have a place to lay a wreath or a
1:03:02flower. Drew Peterson's original trial
1:03:04attorney says this has gone on long
1:03:06enough. He says it is time for the truth
1:03:08to come out. And yes, lawyers and
1:03:11clients have a sacred bond, but so do
1:03:14humans to each other.
1:03:17I feel very bad for Cassandra. I want
1:03:20her to have closure.
1:03:23I don't want to
1:03:24um you know go too far across the line.
1:03:28I want to go as far as I think I can and
1:03:31should try to So, you know, people need
1:03:34to read between the lines to get the
1:03:36closure they need. Let them read between
1:03:38the lines. I I'm I'm doing as much as I
1:03:42feel I can.
1:03:44The big mysteries in Stacy's case have
1:03:47always been no body, no weapon. And now
1:03:51Broadsky seems to be giving us real
1:03:53clues about both of these mysteries.
1:03:59They did an interview of Drew and
1:04:01Cathy's children. Hey there phony,
1:04:03please. How you doing? And during that
1:04:05interview, one of Drew's children, Chris
1:04:08Christopher Peterson, talks about Drew
1:04:11practicing in the basement of the house
1:04:13with a firearm with a silencer. Did you
1:04:17ever hear a gun go off in your house?
1:04:23Uh, other than the time that me and my
1:04:26dad were practicing shooting downstairs,
1:04:28the basement. You were practicing
1:04:30shooting in the basement. No, he had me
1:04:32stand in my brother's room while he
1:04:34shot. What was he shooting at? Uh, this
1:04:37one like bullet thing that we wanted to
1:04:41test out this new silencer you got. The
1:04:44new silencer? Yeah. He just made it
1:04:46himself.
1:04:53[Music]
1:04:56If I'm investigating what I believe to
1:04:58be a
1:04:59homicide and then somebody who lived in
1:05:03that house talks about the person I
1:05:04think committed this homicide, firing a
1:05:07silenced pistol in the basement, target
1:05:10shooting.
1:05:13So what are you telling us about the
1:05:15relevance of the gun? Well, I mean, you
1:05:18can from that evidence, I think you can
1:05:20infer uh how if Drew killed Stacy, how
1:05:23he would have done it because their kids
1:05:26were
1:05:27home. And if he was going to do
1:05:29anything, a silenced weapon like that
1:05:32would be probably the best way to do
1:05:41it. Also, Tom Morphe was there when
1:05:45Stacy disappeared.
1:05:47[Music]
1:05:49He helped Drew carry a container out of
1:05:52Drew's house that he believed had
1:05:55Stacy's body in
1:05:56it. Morphe later on went to the
1:06:00authorities and told them what had
1:06:03happened. You know, he gave an interview
1:06:05that was
1:06:06um pretty compelling evidence
1:06:09really. And if the police would have
1:06:12done a thorough search of the house,
1:06:15they might have found um a couple of
1:06:19blue
1:06:21containers. You know, it's it's all um
1:06:25circumstantial, very
1:06:27circumstantial. Uh I don't know that
1:06:29there was enough, you know, but you
1:06:31start piling these things up, enough
1:06:33circumstantial evidence is enough to get
1:06:35a conviction.
1:06:44Following Drew Peterson's conviction,
1:06:46the usual back and forth ensues. Appeal
1:06:49after appeal. But you know, this is Drew
1:06:51Peterson. He does not give up. And he
1:06:54doesn't know when to stop. And there is
1:06:56still one major shoe to drop in this
1:07:00wild
1:07:05tale. A story and a name. You likely
1:07:08remember a former Illinois police
1:07:10officer convicted of killing his third
1:07:12wife expected to appear in court today.
1:07:14A judge agreed to hear Drew Peterson's
1:07:17motion to vacate his conviction. Drew
1:07:20tried to make the case that he had
1:07:21ineffective counsel. And that
1:07:23ineffective counsel was Joel Bradsky.
1:07:26It's almost like clockwork, the Hail
1:07:28Mary. Someone who's not winning enough
1:07:30appeals goes after the lawyer. Always
1:07:33ineffective assistance of counsel. And
1:07:35that's exactly what Drew did. and
1:07:37Brodzky was having none of it.
1:07:40I'm more afraid of my onepound dog than
1:07:42I am of Drew Peterson. He's he's a
1:07:44blowhard. You know, for all his his
1:07:46swagger, you only hurt defenseless
1:07:48women. Drew Peterson hadn't factored in
1:07:51that his one-time attorney might one day
1:07:53leave the profession of law. And in June
1:07:56of
1:07:572019, something happened that changed
1:08:00everything. The Illinois Supreme Court
1:08:03suspended Joel Broaddsky's license to
1:08:05practice law. Two years. It was about a
1:08:08bunch of unprofessional conduct charges
1:08:11that had nothing to do with Drew. I'm
1:08:14doing consulting now. I'm doing private
1:08:16investigations now. I'm doing okay. I
1:08:19really don't want to go back to that. I
1:08:21don't want to go back to that sewer as I
1:08:23called it.
1:08:26So, with this new freedom in 2022, Joel
1:08:30Broaddsky makes a surprise announcement.
1:08:33I had gotten a call from a reporter and
1:08:35then uh at the end of the interview, I
1:08:37mentioned to him, I said, you know, I've
1:08:39been thinking for a while that maybe
1:08:40it's time I end the mystery about what
1:08:43happened with with Stacy. Maybe, you
1:08:46know, revealing what happened to Stacy
1:08:49and and and where she is.
1:08:52Lawyers keep secrets. That's their job.
1:08:55And when they don't, that's news and
1:08:57that's my job. So when Drew Peterson's
1:09:00lawyer told NewsNation yesterday that he
1:09:02just might commit the biggest lawyer sin
1:09:04there is, ratting out his client, we sat
1:09:08up and took notice. Conversations
1:09:09process. There's no criminal law that
1:09:12says that you can't talk about
1:09:16it. I think I have a lot more leeway
1:09:19than I would if I was practicing law on
1:09:22one hand. On the other hand, I still
1:09:25want to be careful because I know a lot
1:09:28of secrets. I don't want people to think
1:09:29that, oh my god, now Bratzky's going to
1:09:31say everything he knows about everybody
1:09:33he's ever
1:09:35represented. Drew is never getting out
1:09:38of prison. His case has been looked at
1:09:41by 12 different judges, all who
1:09:44unanimously affirm the
1:09:49conviction. Drew is going to die in
1:09:50prison. I think he knows he's not
1:09:52getting out. It It's time for him to do
1:09:55the right thing. I think I could have a
1:09:58decent shot of uh getting him to do the
1:10:02right thing. I'd really like to try
1:10:05that. This is one thing about Drew. Just
1:10:08to do the right thing, that's not true.
1:10:11I think if it would benefit his
1:10:13children, I think he would do it.
1:10:16But if he
1:10:18won't, somebody's got to.
1:10:21After Broadsky's interview airs on WGN,
1:10:24the judge slaps him with a gag order,
1:10:27and that's at the request of Drew
1:10:29Peterson's new attorneys. But even that
1:10:31isn't permanent. So, we're going to find
1:10:33out at some point whether Brodsky is all
1:10:36bluster or if he really does know
1:10:38something that can help put Stacy's
1:10:41family at rest and give them closure.
1:10:45I have a first amendment right. The law
1:10:47is clear. I no longer consider myself
1:10:49bound by this uh gag order. So, uh I
1:10:52told Cassandra as much as I could. I
1:10:56think that she knows that her sister is
1:10:59um not
1:11:01missing. Am I willing to go to jail? I
1:11:04prefer not
1:11:05to. You know, we should put an end to
1:11:08this.
1:11:09It could be months or even years before
1:11:12the rest of the story is told. But in
1:11:14the meantime, Cassandra is more
1:11:16determined than ever to bring her sister
1:11:21home. If you think you know where my
1:11:23sister is, then let me know. Stop
1:11:27holding me
1:11:28back. He just thinks he
1:11:33knows. But I'm already way ahead of
1:11:36Joel. I already have it all. Anyways, I
1:11:39believe I found my sister.
1:11:43[Music]
1:11:47I don't know if Drew Peterson will ever
1:11:51be prosecuted for Stacy Peterson's
1:11:53murder without a body.
1:11:57You can prosecute people when there's no
1:12:00body. It's not like you can't. No body
1:12:02cases and and convictions
1:12:05occur fairly routinely, but what happens
1:12:10if Drew was charged with Stacy's
1:12:12disappearance? And the jurors are like,
1:12:14"Yeah, he probably did it, but we didn't
1:12:16feel like there was proof beyond a
1:12:17reasonable doubt, so we can't vote
1:12:19guilty." And they acquit him. And then
1:12:20she's found. You can never retry him.
1:12:26I don't think there's any doubt in
1:12:28anybody's mind
1:12:30that Stacy is deceased and is out there
1:12:36somewhere. Cassandra has put a credible
1:12:41effort into trying to locate her and
1:12:45search on her
1:12:50own. You don't understand the connection
1:12:52we had. I felt this whoosh go through my
1:12:56body. I knew Stacy was murdered. It was
1:12:59her telling me. That's when my mission
1:13:01started to go for Stacy.
1:13:03[Music]
1:13:05Going all the way back to the time when
1:13:07Stacy went missing, Cassandra was really
1:13:10instrumental in organizing all the
1:13:12ground searches for her sister. But then
1:13:14she shifted her focus to the place 14
1:13:18minutes away from Stacy and Drew's home.
1:13:21the place where police suspect Drew
1:13:22might have actually dumped Stacy's body,
1:13:25the Illinois and Michigan canal.
1:13:29It's a big canal. I mean, it's a very I
1:13:32don't know if you ever saw it. It's big.
1:13:35I don't want her spending any more money
1:13:37that she can't
1:13:38afford. You know, I'd like to be able to
1:13:40do this for her if at all possible. And
1:13:43I hope it becomes possible.
1:13:49I don't know how often I've gone up to
1:13:50the
1:13:53canal. In this past
1:13:56year, I have been on the canal searching
1:14:00approximately six times with sonar and
1:14:03divers. I believe I found my
1:14:06sister. I know it's my
1:14:10sister. after all these years. There's
1:14:13some amazing people out there that would
1:14:14show up if I needed it. That's
1:14:20very heartful and amazing to
1:14:25me. The best one I've had was a half
1:14:28million dollar
1:14:30ROV brought in. Only one in the world.
1:14:35It had all the bells and whistles and
1:14:37the sonar and high viz
1:14:39cameras, lights, all of that. But just
1:14:45being on the canal is just
1:14:48even more
1:14:50difficult. It's not easy to fight for my
1:14:54sister and keep her name alive.
1:15:00The mystery keeps a lot of people going
1:15:03because they want to find her. They're
1:15:05behind Cassandra. Like, we want you to
1:15:07find your
1:15:09sister and I hope that she is found
1:15:12someday. So, that mystery and Stacy's
1:15:15disappearance keeps the story alive if
1:15:17nothing else.
1:15:19where my sister's remains are in the
1:15:22canal. It's not
1:15:25accessible, but me and my team are
1:15:28recovering her. So, not only will I get
1:15:30my sister, I'll get the last
1:15:33left. Blackport is 35 miles
1:15:38southwest of
1:15:40Chicago. It's the INM
1:15:43canal that runs through there.
1:15:46literally sucks the life out of
1:15:49me because I know she's
1:15:52[Music]
1:16:01there. So, this is the bottom of the
1:16:03canal. We were
1:16:05searching with sonar and we got the live
1:16:10video. And if you look underneath the
1:16:14grabber
1:16:15claw, you can see a human skull upside
1:16:19down. The two eye sockets right
1:16:21underneath it filled with silt and the
1:16:23lower jawbone fell
1:16:26off. You can totally see a
1:16:29female
1:16:32bound hair
1:16:34waving full body form.
1:16:42It's
1:16:44somebody. Whether it's my sister or not,
1:16:46they need to be brought
1:16:49home. Is she at the exact place of
1:16:56this? What's that black thing? Is that
1:16:58from the camera or
1:17:06something? Wow.
1:17:09That's like right there underneath the
1:17:10whatever that black thing is
1:17:15right. It's a skull. Is it hers though?
1:17:23[Music]
1:17:25in looking at this uh
1:17:29video that potentially could be a pelvis
1:17:33with a little bit of spine spinal column
1:17:37femur bone almost look
1:17:43broken jagged edges there
1:17:46skull I'm actually shocked that they
1:17:48were able to get the photos they did of
1:17:50this because of the movement of the
1:17:52stuff down there but yeah here too See
1:17:55more
1:17:56bone. It's a pretty clear picture. It's
1:18:00a lot different than the technology back
1:18:02in uh
1:18:032007. This was not available back
1:18:06then. I would say somebody should go and
1:18:09take a look at
1:18:14this. I want everybody to remember my
1:18:17sister as the most amazing woman,
1:18:21mother, friend.
1:18:26God,
1:18:29wife,
1:18:31aunt, cousin, she's just daughter.
1:18:36Amazing. I want people to remember body
1:18:40form, not skeletal remains on the bottom
1:18:43of the canal.
1:18:48The Illinois State Police say that this
1:18:49case is far from over and that they may
1:18:52actually return to search for Stacy's
1:18:55remains. But retrieving her body would
1:18:58bring so much closure to her family and
1:19:01might even push Drew or someone
1:19:04else to confess to the murder. But in
1:19:08the meantime, friends and family of both
1:19:10Stacy and Kathleen are working to honor
1:19:13their memories with an organization that
1:19:15helps women who were in the same
1:19:17position that Stacy and Kathleen were
1:19:19in.
1:19:21Going through this with Stacy and and
1:19:24not knowing what to do has definitely
1:19:26created so many moments for me to help
1:19:29other victims all over the country.
1:19:34document the abuse came about because of
1:19:37what happened with Kathleen and with
1:19:40Stacy.
1:19:42So what it does, a victim sits down and
1:19:44they they basically they tell their
1:19:46story so that if something happens to
1:19:49the victim, their story is heard in
1:19:52their voice if they're incapacitated or
1:19:54murdered. if something happens, I can
1:19:57now come to court with everything in a
1:20:00comprehensive,
1:20:01cohesive manner and be able to work on
1:20:05their
1:20:08behalf. Projects like these allow for
1:20:11the names of Kathleen and Stacy to to
1:20:14live on, but they also help prevent
1:20:18further suffering for other families who
1:20:20may be in the same boat. And the
1:20:22families of Kathleen and Stacy have both
1:20:24said they don't want anyone to ever go
1:20:26through what they've gone through
1:20:28because there can always be another Drew
1:20:33[Music]
1:20:35Peterson. On the surface, Drew Peterson
1:20:39seemed like a very nice guy and he was
1:20:42to his children a good dad on one hand.
1:20:45On the other hand, in reality, he's a
1:20:48monster.
1:20:49He is probably one of the most evil
1:20:52people I've ever met.
1:21:03[Music]

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