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Dr Wilfred Reilly -- Is there Systemic Racism in the United States..? — Transcript

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  1. 0:00is there systemic racism in our police
  2. 0:03departments in the aggregate
  3. 0:05well systemic or institutional racism as
  4. 0:08an academic is a phrase that I'm always
  5. 0:11a bit skeptical of now obviously if we
  6. 0:14want to be honest about some of this
  7. 0:16country's history there have been
  8. 0:17systems like criminal sentencing in the
  9. 0:19past where until quite recently you did
  10. 0:22see discrimination at kind of a broad
  11. 0:24group targeted level but very often this
  12. 0:27phrase simply means there's a difference
  13. 0:30in performance between two groups and
  14. 0:32we're going to attribute that to racism
  15. 0:33and to give an example of why that
  16. 0:35doesn't necessarily work I mean my
  17. 0:37favorite sports league the NBA the
  18. 0:39National Basketball Association is more
  19. 0:41than 65% black and I don't think any
  20. 0:44serious person would believe that that's
  21. 0:46because white jocks just don't get a
  22. 0:48fair shake in American society the
  23. 0:50reason is that there's what you might
  24. 0:52call a cultural variable
  25. 0:53african-americans play basketball more
  26. 0:56and so on average at the median with all
  27. 0:58due respect to the hick from French Lick
  28. 1:00we're better at it
  29. 1:01white guys play more baseball and if you
  30. 1:03look at MLB that is a very heavily
  31. 1:05Caucasian and Hispanic Athletic League
  32. 1:07and you see this same thing in more what
  33. 1:11you might call serious situations all
  34. 1:13the time so in 1995 the government
  35. 1:17economist June O'Neill who's a liberal
  36. 1:18as I understand and the conservative
  37. 1:20researcher Dinesh D'Souza was fairly
  38. 1:22nonpartisan at the time looked at the
  39. 1:25troubling fact that there is a gap
  40. 1:26between black and white incomes as I
  41. 1:28recall African Americans made 82% of
  42. 1:31what park Asians did and this was just
  43. 1:33universally attributed to racism and
  44. 1:36what they found out was that that wasn't
  45. 1:37the case there were a lot of
  46. 1:39quote-unquote variables involved African
  47. 1:42Americans are a younger population the
  48. 1:44most common age for a black man is 27
  49. 1:46the most common age for a white man is
  50. 1:4858 obviously people earn more later in
  51. 1:51life when they've had the chance to move
  52. 1:52into executive roles African Americans
  53. 1:55are much more concentrated in the south
  54. 1:57where wages are lower for everyone if
  55. 1:59you adjust for these factors in just a
  56. 2:01couple of others I mean years not even
  57. 2:03quality of schooling just staying in
  58. 2:05school average performance on a test
  59. 2:07like the SAT the gap almost disappeared
  60. 2:10and you could argue that some of those
  61. 2:12things are tied into
  62. 2:13class and whatnot but there's no pattern
  63. 2:15of businesses paying an absolutely
  64. 2:18equally qualified black guy and an
  65. 2:20absolutely equally qualified white guy
  66. 2:22different amounts in general and I think
  67. 2:25that's a valuable lesson to take into
  68. 2:26life so when people argue that policing
  69. 2:29is institutionally racist almost always
  70. 2:31what they are saying is African
  71. 2:33Americans are arrested at a higher rate
  72. 2:36or they encounter police at a higher
  73. 2:37rate then the black percentage of
  74. 2:39society would predict but the obvious
  75. 2:42intermediary variable there is crime
  76. 2:45rate if you look at the borough of
  77. 2:47Justice Statistics crime report the
  78. 2:49African American crime rate for violent
  79. 2:51crimes where you encounter the police
  80. 2:53White's dominate corporate crime is two
  81. 2:55point four times the white rate so you
  82. 2:57would expect there unfortunately to be
  83. 2:59more encounters between African
  84. 3:01Americans and the police and when you
  85. 3:03look at this narrative about black
  86. 3:05people and the police being in constant
  87. 3:07conflict not only does a lot of the
  88. 3:09structural element perhaps not all of it
  89. 3:11but a great deal disappear if you adjust
  90. 3:13for crime rate the figures themselves
  91. 3:16that are often used are strike me is
  92. 3:18very very inflated in terms of police
  93. 3:21violence so there's a there's a
  94. 3:23comprehensive database of police
  95. 3:25shootings and police killings maintained
  96. 3:27by The Washington Post newspaper there's
  97. 3:29another one that's kept online and live
  98. 3:31at www.acefitness.org killed by police
  99. 3:59and only 229 of those were African
  100. 4:02American and there's a lot of serious
  101. 4:04research that looks at types of violence
  102. 4:07other than just shooting other than
  103. 4:09killing so Roland fryer who is one of
  104. 4:12the youngest individuals ever to gain
  105. 4:14tenure at Harvard and like me as a black
  106. 4:15man took a comprehensive look at every
  107. 4:18type of police violence in a paper that
  108. 4:20came out and I believe 2016 and what he
  109. 4:23found is that there were some small gaps
  110. 4:27african-americans were a bit more likely
  111. 4:29to be for example cursed at or lightly
  112. 4:31shoved but when it came to extreme
  113. 4:34beatings or police shootings
  114. 4:36african-americans in the case of
  115. 4:38shootings were actually 24.2 less likely
  116. 4:41with everything along with race adjusted
  117. 4:43for to be shot by the police then
  118. 4:45White's were so I don't think you see a
  119. 4:48pattern of broad systemic targeting
  120. 4:51specifically of black people by the
  121. 4:53police today that doesn't mean there
  122. 4:56aren't individual bad officers I mean we
  123. 4:58saw the horrifying George Floyd tape I
  124. 5:01mean my position is that charges should
  125. 5:03be filed against every one of the
  126. 5:04officers involved in that situation but
  127. 5:07even there the facts are a little more
  128. 5:08complex than they originally seem to be
  129. 5:11two of the officers on the scene as it
  130. 5:13turns out
  131. 5:14thow and kuhn if I have the names
  132. 5:16correct are not Caucasian men Floyd and
  133. 5:20Shelvin the officer primarily
  134. 5:23responsible for the killing had
  135. 5:24previously known one another from a
  136. 5:26nightlife security position so I don't
  137. 5:28think we can just look at interactions
  138. 5:30between african-americans and the police
  139. 5:31and say what we have here is an epidemic
  140. 5:34pattern of racism a genocide as attorney
  141. 5:37Crump called it in a recent book all
  142. 5:39right we'll be right back

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