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0:00Our research shows that your thoughts
0:01can make you sick. The question is if
0:03your thoughts can make you sick, can
0:04your thoughts make you well? That's
0:06absolutely possible and it's easy to
0:07learn. So, when you wake up in the
0:09morning Dr. Joe Dispenza Researcher and
0:13best-selling author One of the most
0:14sought-after speakers in the world
0:16All with the aim of helping people
0:17better understand and unlock the power
0:19of their mind.
0:21I'm concerned about human species. Why?
0:2375 to 90% of every person that goes to a
0:26healthcare facility goes because of
0:28psychological or emotional stress and it
0:30gets addictive to people. They need the
0:32bad relationship, the bad job in order
0:34to feel and there's so much research to
0:35show that when they analyze their life
0:37within some disturbing emotion, we saw
0:39that they were actually making the brain
0:41worse. But 50% of that story isn't even
0:43the truth. People are reliving a
0:45miserable life they never even had just
0:48to excuse themselves from changing. You
0:50can't wait for your wealth to feel
0:52success. You can't wait for your new
0:53relationship to feel love. But 95% of
0:56who we are by the age of 35 is
0:59programmed. Yeah, but there is a way to
1:01change. And so the model of change is
1:03breaking the habit of the old self and
1:05reinventing a new self. And if you teach
1:07people how to do that, in 7 days you can
1:09see very significant changes. So, try
1:11this out as an experiment. First thing
1:13you have to do is
1:15Dr. Joe, you're someone that's
1:16constantly doing research and developing
1:18new ideas about where humans are and the
1:20way the universe is. What are the
1:21beliefs in your head that you're too
1:22scared to share? Oh boy, I have I have a
1:25very strong belief that
1:28Before this episode starts, I have a
1:29small favor to ask from you. 2 months
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1:51Thank you and enjoy this episode.
1:59to Joe.
2:0395% of who we are by the age of 35 is
2:06programmed.
2:08When I read that in your work, kind of
2:10hit me like a
2:11ton of bricks because I just turned 30.
2:15And if what you're saying there is true,
2:18without realizing it, there's a puppet
2:19master that sits above me that's calling
2:22the shots in a way that I don't think
2:23I've realized.
2:25Is that true?
2:27I think if we define a habit is a
2:30redundant set of automatic unconscious
2:33thoughts, behaviors, and emotions that's
2:36acquired through repetition. A habit is
2:39when you've done something so many times
2:41that your body now knows how to do it
2:43better than your conscious mind.
2:45Then it's programmed subconsciously.
2:48So, then when the body knows how to do
2:49it better than the conscious mind, then
2:52for the most part, the greatest habit we
2:53have to break is the habit of being
2:55ourselves, right? So, there's a
2:57principle in neuroscience that says that
2:59nerve cells that fire together wire
3:01together.
3:02If you keep thinking the same way, uh
3:05if you keep making the same choices, if
3:07you keep doing the same things, if you
3:09keep reproducing the same experiences
3:11and feeling the same emotions,
3:14your biology begins to become hardwired
3:17in a sense. It
3:19it becomes programmed.
3:21So, in order to change uh something, to
3:24arrive at a new vision of your future,
3:26if you were wanted to arrive at a new
3:28goal or new vision of your future,
3:31you'd have to change something about
3:32yourself in order to get there.
3:35And you'd have to change the way you
3:36think, the way you act, and the way you
3:38feel.
3:39When you begin to become conscious
3:42of those unconscious thoughts, so
3:44conscious that you don't let them slip
3:46by your awareness unnoticed or unchecked
3:48by you.
3:49If you catch yourself speaking in a
3:51limited way or
3:53um you're you become conscious that
3:56you're behaving in a certain way, in a
3:57habit,
3:59and if you can notice or pay attention
4:01to how you're feeling, then you're no
4:03longer the program. Now your
4:04consciousness observing the program.
4:06You're only unconscious when you're in
4:08the program and so to change then
4:11is to become so conscious that you don't
4:13don't go unconscious again. And in a
4:15sense, that is consciousness that is
4:18really the puppet master that really
4:20decides who we want to be.
4:23I think the biggest problem
4:25uh is that people lose their free will
4:28uh to a set of programs. And so their
4:30body is basically um programmed into a
4:33predictable future based on what they've
4:35done in the past. So, to change then, to
4:37change that habituation takes an
4:40enormous amount of energy
4:42and an enormous amount of awareness.
4:45Why is this
4:47operating system, this program,
4:49useful? Cuz I look at everything that I
4:51the way that I do and from doing this
4:53podcast and speaking to experts, I've
4:54stopped thinking that my body is against
4:56me. And I've stopped realize I've
4:58started to realize that there's a reason
4:59for these things. There's a reason for
5:01the habits and patterns and
5:04So, why is this useful? Because it seems
5:05to be working against me in so many
5:07ways.
5:08Well, um first of all,
5:10um
5:11when we
5:13when we look closely at uh certain
5:15habits, whether you um
5:18can ride a bicycle,
5:20whether you can speak a language,
5:22whether you can snowboard, when you
5:24first learn any of those things, it
5:26takes an enormous amount of conscious
5:29awareness to get your body to do what
5:31your mind is intending.
5:33But if you keep doing it over and over
5:35again, then the body begins to economize
5:38it in some way. And so, we have a lot of
5:41things that we can do automatically
5:43or unconsciously or subconsciously that
5:46allows us to multitask, to drive your
5:48car, to talk on the phone, to do several
5:51different things at the same time. So, a
5:53habit isn't a bad thing. They can work
5:56for you or they can work against you.
5:58The problem is is if you're
6:00as an example, complaining
6:02and blaming and making excuses and
6:04feeling sorry for yourself and judging
6:06other people and you practice that and
6:09you get really good at whatever you
6:10practice.
6:11You practice that enough times that
6:13you're unconscious to the fact that
6:15you're doing it.
6:16Um
6:18the moment you become conscious that you
6:19want to change that, uh you're going to
6:21be uncomfortable.
6:23Uh it's going to feel unfamiliar. It's
6:26going to feel some degree of
6:27uncertainty.
6:29You're leaving kind of familiar known
6:30territory and you're stepping into the
6:32unknown. And so, uh many people when
6:35they want to change a habit, um
6:38they have to be willing to be
6:39uncomfortable to do it. But habits can
6:41work for us. There's a lot of great
6:43habits that you and I both have that I
6:45would never want to change
6:47uh or would want to evolve in some way.
6:49But then there's a lot of habits that
6:51don't serve us and and so, a person
6:53really wants to set a vision of the
6:55future, whatever that is, and they just
6:58have to agree that in order to arrive at
6:59that vision, they have to change in
7:01order to get there.
7:02Someone said to me that there's a
7:03certain type of behavior pattern that we
7:06can't change. They said when we get
7:08trauma under the age of 10, things that
7:10happen at a very early age, some of
7:12those things cannot be changed. And then
7:14there's things that happen later in life
7:15that can be rewired and changed.
7:19Is that true? Are there some traumas,
7:22behavior patterns that just appear to be
7:23too stubborn and too resistant to
7:25change?
7:27If you ask me that question just a few
7:29years ago, I probably would have a
7:31different answer than I do today because
7:34if you look at a lot of the work uh
7:38that we're studying in terms of human
7:40change and human transformation,
7:42um
7:43we've seen people with really difficult
7:45pasts, really brutal pasts that
7:48were abused and traumatized at a very
7:50early age um and then
7:53repeated traumas that took place in
7:55people's lives
7:57and they had night terrors and uh
8:01they couldn't be in relationships. They
8:03had social anxiety. Uh they had a lot of
8:06health conditions.
8:07We've seen them completely change. Uh
8:10completely changed to be happy people
8:12again, to
8:13to free themselves from the past. And
8:16so,
8:18I would never put a limitation
8:21on change because I just don't think uh
8:24you can really predict that. I think
8:26many people that are learning how to
8:28change, uh they understand what they're
8:30doing and why they're doing it.
8:33And the how gets easier. I think
8:35for the most part, people can change all
8:37kinds of things. And when they do
8:38change,
8:39uh our research shows that their brain
8:41changes, their heart rate changes, their
8:44gene expression changes, there's
8:46thousands of metabolites that are being
8:48released into their
8:50bloodstream that weren't there prior. Uh
8:53there's a host of different changes that
8:55take place biologically that kind of
8:56support the person's transformation.
9:00Is there a specific transformation
9:03that sticks in your mind
9:06as being the most as the clearest
9:08evidence that you should never write off
9:11um someone's ability to transform?
9:14Wow. Um
9:17I'm so pleased to tell you that uh my
9:20beliefs have been challenged
9:23uh just in the last 2 years in
9:25witnessing
9:27so many different changes in people's
9:29health that I I never knew was even
9:31possible.
9:33Uh
9:34you know, everything from
9:36stage four cancers that were
9:39in a very progressed state that
9:41metastasized to
9:43organs and tissues and bones in the
9:44body, a complete reversal
9:47in uh that
9:49in that health condition. Not once, not
9:50twice, not three times.
9:52Uh we've seen it many times.
9:55Uh we've seen people that were blind, uh
9:57that have been deaf, that
10:00that have ALS, that have lupus, that
10:04have MS, that have Parkinson's disease,
10:07that have spinal cord injuries, that
10:09have strokes,
10:11PTSD,
10:13myasthenia gravis, cystic fibrosis,
10:15muscular dystrophy.
10:17Uh, we had a woman that had her thyroid
10:20removed, surgically removed, and I know
10:24this is difficult even for me to accept.
10:27Uh, and grew a new thyroid back. You
10:29know, we have the medical evidence for
10:31that. So, I don't know any longer what
10:34the limit is. I think there's something
10:37really cool happening in the world when
10:40uh, people believe in themselves.
10:42And when you believe in yourself, you
10:43have to believe in possibility.
10:46When you believe in possibility, you
10:47have to believe in yourself. So,
10:49uh, when somebody
10:52uh, has the opportunity, and I think a
10:54story
10:55is
10:57uh, and there's no there's everybody
10:58loves a story. There's nothing better
11:00than a story, and
11:01when someone stands on a stage in front
11:03of 2,000 people
11:05and talks about their
11:08um, journey to heal themselves from a
11:11chronic health condition,
11:13and they it's not
11:16um, always pretty. They lose things.
11:20They lose family. They sometimes lose
11:23their careers. They get sick before they
11:24get better. And And you see this
11:27person's persistence, and you see that
11:29they were not doing the work, uh, their
11:32inward work to heal. They were doing the
11:34work to change.
11:36And if they understood, if they truly
11:37changed that their biology should
11:39change, and they were
11:41um, uncompromising every day in showing
11:44up for themselves and staying conscious
11:46of their unconscious self, and and then
11:49reprogrammed themselves in some way.
11:51When they tell that story, it's the
11:53four-minute mile. It's somebody breaking
11:56through a level of consciousness or
11:58unconsciousness in the collective
12:00that's observing
12:03the example of truth.
12:06They're actually relating with that
12:08person
12:09in a way that causes them to examine
12:12possibility differently.
12:14And when you become conscious of a new
12:16possibility, a change in consciousness
12:18is a change in awareness, right? So, now
12:21it's in the collective, and lo and
12:23behold, it's not uncommon. We just had
12:25this happen
12:27in our week-long event in Denver just a
12:29little over a week ago, 2 weeks ago.
12:33And we had six people stand up out of a
12:35wheelchair at by the end of the event.
12:37Now, I wasn't expecting that, but one
12:41uh,
12:42person that had MS in the middle of the
12:44week had a very profound experience,
12:46very profound experience.
12:48And a professional athlete, NFL football
12:51player, and um,
12:52stood up, and he stood up for the
12:55audience. And
12:56when he stood up, he said, "I thought I
12:58was going to a yoga retreat. I thought
13:00my brother was taking me to a yoga
13:01retreat. I had no idea what we were
13:03doing here."
13:04And then he said, "I just I just never
13:07loved myself."
13:08And it was his act of change that
13:12somehow
13:14changed his health condition. He somehow
13:16up-regulated
13:17genes in different ways, suppressed the
13:20genes for MS, and somehow he was more
13:22mobile, he was walking
13:24by the end of the event, and he was the
13:28magic number one. And when everybody saw
13:32that, and they crowd the audience was
13:34excited, we started seeing other people
13:37have a similar experience. Now, that
13:39possibility is becoming more of a
13:40reality for people.
13:42So, I would always I never limit what
13:45could actually happen, but I can tell
13:47you that what an amazing time right now
13:50uh, to witness people really doing the
13:53uncommon.
13:55When you recited that story, I could see
13:56the emotion in your face as you say it.
13:59And I can only imagine with the
14:01information that you have and the
14:02beliefs you have about healing, change,
14:04transformation,
14:06the sense of urgency you must carry, and
14:08the sense of like responsibility almost,
14:11I guess you must carry.
14:12Knowing knowing what's possible. Yeah,
14:14well, um, um,
14:16it I I do feel responsible for always
14:19keeping the information based in science
14:22and as pure as possible.
14:24I feel it's really important to do the
14:26research that we're doing. I mean, we've
14:28we've studied so much from a scientific
14:31standpoint the process of change and the
14:33process of transformation and what
14:36meditation actually
14:37can do for a person in terms of their
14:40biology and and some of the changes that
14:42we're seeing just in 7 days. Um, my
14:45responsibility really is to give people
14:47my greatest understanding of the truth
14:50and numerous opportunities to experience
14:52it, nothing more. You know, there's a
14:55way to inspire people into possibility.
14:59And so, they we combine different models
15:03of science, whether it's quantum physics
15:05or neuroscience or neuroendocrinology or
15:08psychoneuroimmunology, the mind-body
15:10connection, epigenetics,
15:12electromagnetism,
15:13all of these sciences allow people to
15:16understand themselves better. And if
15:18knowledge is power, knowledge about
15:20yourself is self-empowerment, and you
15:21can empower people to do something with
15:23it.
15:24So, the more you understand what you're
15:27doing in the process of change, the more
15:29you understand why you're doing it, as I
15:31said, the how gets easier.
15:33So,
15:34we now know that if you give people
15:36sound scientific information, and that
15:38is the contemporary language of
15:39mysticism,
15:41and they can learn that information,
15:42they're basically making new circuits in
15:44their brain. That's what learning is.
15:45Learning is forging new synaptic
15:47connections. But if you don't review
15:49what you learn, if you don't repeat it,
15:51it's so much easier to forget it than to
15:52remember it. So, you got to repeat it
15:54over and over again. So,
15:55we allow people in our workshops to then
15:57begin to turn and teach it back to
16:00somebody. They have to really explain
16:02it. If they can't explain it, it's not
16:04wired in their brain, and they're going
16:05to
16:06something's going to be left to
16:07conjecture, to superstition, to dogma,
16:09to spirituality, and and that's not
16:12that's not the result we want. We want
16:14them to use science as that model, and
16:17if they can explain that model and
16:19remind themselves what they've learned,
16:22reproduce the same level of mind, nerve
16:24cells that fire together wire together.
16:26So, they begin to install the
16:27neurological hardware in their brain
16:30by teaching others. Yeah, exactly. So,
16:33that they are prepared for an
16:34experience.
16:35So then, if that information is
16:38installed in their brain, that
16:39philosophy, that theory,
16:41uh, that knowledge and information, and
16:43now they can remember it, and they have
16:45that model of understanding,
16:48and they understand what they're doing
16:49and why they're doing it. If we can set
16:51up the conditions in the environment and
16:53give them the proper instruction,
16:56if they can get their behaviors to match
16:57their intentions,
16:59they get their actions equal to their
17:01thoughts. If they can get their mind and
17:02body working together,
17:04they're going to have a new experience.
17:05Now, experience enriches circuitry in
17:08the brain. That's what experiences does.
17:10The moment those neurons begin to string
17:12in the place, though, another part of
17:14the brain makes a chemical, and that
17:16chemical is called a feeling or an
17:18emotion. And the moment you feel
17:20unlimited, the moment you feel grateful,
17:22the moment you feel empowered, the
17:23moment you feel whole,
17:26now you're teaching your body chemically
17:29to understand what your mind has
17:30intellectually understood. The
17:32information is just not in the brain
17:33now. The information now is literally in
17:35the body. And now you're embodying the
17:37truth
17:38of that knowledge, of that philosophy,
17:40of that theory.
17:42So then, you're teaching your body and
17:44and instructing your body chemically to
17:46understand what your mind has
17:47intellectually understood. Okay? So
17:50then, that information that's coming as
17:52a new experience is changing your
17:54biology in some way, and we've actually
17:56shown this.
17:58So then, if you've done it once,
18:00then it means you should be able to do
18:02it again.
18:03And the idea is to be able to repeat an
18:05experience. And if you can repeat it
18:08over and over again, both neurologically
18:10and chemically, neurochemically, you can
18:13condition your mind and body to begin to
18:15work as one. And when you can do it so
18:17many times that your body now knows how
18:19to do it better than your conscious
18:20mind, it's innate in you. So, I want to
18:22map out this process so that I make sure
18:25I understand it.
18:27Starts with the neurology,
18:29which I I I I heard is uh,
18:32a thought which you then ingrain in your
18:34mind by teaching it to someone else. Is
18:36that accurate?
18:37Well, first thing you have to do is you
18:38got to give people information.
18:40Yeah, interesting.
18:40And science is probably the closest to
18:43the truth in terms of information.
18:45And so, when your brain is exposed to
18:47information and you're present and
18:50you're paying attention, that neurons
18:52begin to connect. That's what learning
18:54is. Learning is forging new synaptic
18:56connections.
18:58The Nobel Prize research, Kandel in the
19:00year 2000, his the researcher said that
19:03if you learned one bit of information
19:06and you paid attention that information
19:08for about an hour,
19:10he would double the number of
19:11connections in your brain as a result of
19:14your interaction with that information.
19:16But if you don't review it, if you don't
19:18repeat it, if you don't think about it,
19:20the circuits prune apart, right? So, if
19:22learning is making new synaptic
19:24connections, then remembering is
19:25maintaining and sustaining them. So,
19:27it's so much easier to forget this
19:29information than to remember it. So, you
19:30learn it. Once I got a person's head
19:33nodding, then they turn the person next
19:35to them and say, "Let me try this out.
19:36Let me try this out. Let me see if I can
19:37repeat it." And so, between the two of
19:39them, they exchange that information,
19:41and they start to build the model of
19:43understanding. "Ah, I understand. I got
19:44that. Okay." Then we advance the
19:46information a bit more, and they they're
19:48adding new stitches into the
19:49three-dimensional tapestry of their gray
19:51matter, and they have to remind
19:53themselves what they've learned,
19:55reproduce that same level of mind. Mind
19:57is the brain in action.
19:59As you install those neurological
20:00circuits in your brain then, now you're
20:02prepared.
20:03It's the forerunner to the experience.
20:05You're prepared for the experience. So,
20:07give the proper instruction, get your
20:08body involved, get involved in the
20:10process.
20:11The experience then causes the circuits
20:13to become more enriched. That's what
20:14experience does.
20:16And then it makes a chemical, and that
20:17chemical's called a feeling or an
20:19emotion. And the stronger the emotion
20:21you feel from the experience, the more
20:22you remember it. And what is that
20:23experience?
20:25What can
20:25Abundance, health, wholeness, a mystical
20:28experience, success, a new relationship,
20:32a new career.
20:34Um
20:35a new life.
20:37Whatever the person's Whatever Whatever
20:38that vision
20:40that person wants to arrive at in the
20:42future.
20:43And to actually go from the thought of
20:46that vision to the actual experience of
20:48it. And the distance between that
20:50thought and that experience is called
20:51time.
20:53So, if we can teach people to shorten
20:54the distance between the thought of what
20:56they want and the experience of having
20:58it,
20:59um then they they start believing more
21:00that they're the creator of their life.
21:03What would you say to somebody that
21:04doesn't think thoughts matter that much?
21:06I would say 95%
21:08of the world plus, or maybe more, 99% of
21:11the world plus, sees thoughts as
21:12something that we are
21:15you know, it's my head talking.
21:16It's me talking in my head.
21:18And as long as I don't act on those
21:20thoughts, they're inconsequential.
21:22I would I would say then that's their
21:24truth.
21:25Is it their truth? I don't know.
21:28But for me, my thoughts do matter. I
21:30think every thought that you have makes
21:31a chemical.
21:33And you can have thoughts that make you
21:34feel good and thoughts that make you
21:36feel bad.
21:37And and I think that if 90%
21:41of the thoughts that we think are the
21:43same thoughts as the day before,
21:46the same thoughts lead to the same
21:47choices. The same choices lead to the
21:50same behaviors, the same behaviors will
21:52create the same experiences.
21:54And the same experiences produce the
21:56very same emotions, and those same
21:57emotions influence a person's very same
21:59thoughts and their biology, their
22:01neuro-circuitry, their neurochemistry,
22:03their hormones, and even their gene
22:05expression stays the same because
22:06they're staying the same. There's
22:08nothing wrong with that.
22:10But I do think that if you think
22:12differently and you learn new
22:13information and you have new thoughts,
22:15if you can make new choices and
22:18demonstrate new behaviors and create new
22:20experiences and arrive at new goals and
22:22feel new emotions, I would say that's
22:23evolution.
22:25And I think that people really really
22:27secretly believe in themselves on some
22:29level. And and I think
22:31being defined by a vision of the future
22:33or really always always dreaming of
22:36another great experience,
22:38I think is a great reason to wake up in
22:40the morning.
22:41I've had lots of conversations with very
22:42smart people on this podcast from
22:44multiple disciplines, you know,
22:45psychiatrists, psychologists, athletes,
22:47health practitioners. And they've given
22:49me such great advice on, which is
22:52irrefutable scientific advice from so
22:53many areas of my life. And for some
22:55reason, there's still areas of my life
22:57that I still can't act upon that advice.
22:59And I think probably for most of my
23:00listeners who've had great advice on
23:02this podcast, and they think, yes,
23:03that's who I want to be. I have an
23:05intention to stop eating sugar at 1:00
23:071:00 a.m. at night, or I have an
23:08intention to become organized or to be
23:10this kind of friend or partner.
23:12They have the information.
23:14Right.
23:15What There's something stood in the way
23:16of me doing something about that
23:17information on a regular basis. Yeah.
23:20Well, I can give you a few answers for
23:22that. Unfortunately,
23:24it normally takes a crisis, Yeah.
23:26trauma, disease, diagnosis, betrayal,
23:30loss. A person has to reach that lowest
23:34denominator
23:36where nothing's making that feeling go
23:38away. Has to. Well, not they don't have
23:41to, but this is human This is the human
23:42condition. This is the moment where they
23:45don't feel like returning the texts.
23:47They don't feel like going to dinner and
23:49seeing the same people. They don't feel
23:51like um
23:53watching the same television show any
23:55longer. The sports car, the wardrobe,
23:58the None of that is making this feeling
24:00go away. This is
24:02a moment of reckoning for the soul.
24:05And this is really when you could
24:06actually see yourself
24:09through the eyes of someone else cuz you
24:11don't feel like yourself anymore. And
24:13that's the moment where people begin to
24:15change. They can see how they've been
24:17thinking. They can notice how they've
24:18been acting. They can pay attention or
24:21become aware of how they've been feeling
24:23for the last 20 years.
24:25And that that idea in in neuroscience is
24:27called metacognition. That's the moment
24:30you're no longer the program. Now,
24:32what we believe and what we've seen and
24:35what I think is much better approach is
24:39um being defined by a vision of the
24:40future. And if you understood
24:43that you could actually elevate your
24:45state without anyone or anything every
24:49single day,
24:50and hold whatever that intention of your
24:52future is. And it takes a coherent brain
24:55to do that.
24:57And feel the emotion of your future
25:01before it happens.
25:03That is, you know, you can't wait for
25:04your wealth to feel success. You can't
25:07or abundance. You can't wait for your
25:09new relationship to feel love. You can't
25:11wait for the mystical experience to feel
25:13whole or your healing to feel whole or
25:15grateful. That's kind of
25:17the old model of reality of cause and
25:19effect, waiting for something out there
25:22to change, to take away this emptiness,
25:24this lack that I feel in here.
25:26If you teach people then they could
25:27elevate their state, and we teach that
25:29model through meditation.
25:31And they can combine that clear
25:33intention with an elevated emotion and
25:34teach them how to make that heart of
25:36theirs more coherent.
25:40If they do that properly then, they'll
25:42live their life feeling like
25:45their future has already happened. Now,
25:47from that elevated state, instead of
25:50that self-limited state, they can become
25:52as conscious
25:54of that unconscious self as they could
25:56if they were at that limited state. And
25:58and being defined by that vision of the
26:00future,
26:02getting up every day inspired by it, and
26:04not letting any person, any
26:06circumstance, anything in our life
26:09remove us from that vision, that would
26:11be a day well lived. So then,
26:13most people then they have that vision
26:15of the future,
26:17but they give up on that vision because
26:19in order for them to arrive at that
26:21vision, they have to do something. They
26:23have to think differently. They have to
26:24act differently. They have to feel
26:26differently.
26:27And it's so much easier to make the same
26:29choice every single day. And the hardest
26:31part
26:32about change is not making the same
26:35choice as you did the day before.
26:37And the moment you decide to make a
26:39different choice,
26:40you're going to feel uncomfortable cuz
26:43you're stepping from the known into the
26:45unknown.
26:46So, some people would rather cling to
26:48their self-pity
26:50than take a chance and possibility.
26:52They'd rather tell the story of their
26:54past
26:55instead of telling the story of their
26:57future. They'd rather believe in their
26:59past instead of believe in their future.
27:02Uh it's so much more important though to
27:03romance your future instead of romance
27:06your past. And I think if people
27:07understood that they could actually
27:10arrive at it.
27:12I think many people have done this
27:14already in their life. I think everybody
27:16at least once in their life has done
27:18something great. And when they
27:21did something great, they just made up
27:22their mind.
27:23And they made a decision in that moment
27:26to do something or to change with such
27:28firm intention
27:30that the amplitude of energy in making
27:33that choice
27:34caused their body to respond to their
27:36mind.
27:37That the choice that they were making to
27:39change became a moment in time that they
27:41would never forget.
27:43And the stronger the emotion they felt
27:45in order to change, the more they
27:46remembered the choice.
27:48And we could say then that they're
27:49giving their body a taste
27:52of the future emotionally. And they're
27:54literally aligning to that destiny.
27:57We discovered that if you keep doing
27:59that every day,
28:01somehow you arrive at that destiny, and
28:02your biology will literally begin to
28:05change to look like you're living in a
28:06different life.
28:08What are some of the biggest myths
28:09relating to
28:11behavior change and
28:13I guess character and personality
28:14change, um
28:16that hold people back?
28:21Our probably belief.
28:23I think in so many ways that a belief is
28:25a
28:26unconscious process. A belief is a
28:28thought you keep thinking over and over
28:30again
28:31until it's hardwired in your brain.
28:34And most beliefs are based on past
28:36experiences.
28:38And so, many people have a belief about
28:41something that has to change
28:43in order for them to arrive at a new
28:46place in their life.
28:48And what we discovered a lot of times
28:50with people in this work is that
28:53they they
28:54when they Say for example, they were
28:56healing themselves of a health
28:57condition.
29:00Sometimes they would
29:02do their meditations three times in one
29:04day. And I asked them, "Why three
29:06times?" And they said, "Because I
29:08stopped believing.
29:10Uh and when I caught myself no longer
29:12believing in it, I had to sit down and
29:14change my belief again."
29:16In other words, they had to get up
29:17believing more in their future instead
29:19of believing less in it. And they have
29:21to change their state of being to do
29:22that.
29:24So, I think that
29:25that's a limitation. I also think that
29:27unconsciously we're always waiting for
29:30something out there in our life to
29:32change so that we can change or feel the
29:34relief of the lack of what we don't
29:36have.
29:38And I do think that's kind of a limited
29:40model of reality. I think when you start
29:42changing inside of you and you start
29:44seeing the changes happening outside of
29:46you, you go from being a victim in your
29:48life to being a creator of your life.
29:50And And I think that when that occurs,
29:53then all of a sudden it's no longer a
29:54have to.
29:56It's something that you want to do. You
29:58don't You actually don't want the magic
29:59to end in your life. So now you become a
30:02work in progress by investing in
30:04yourself.
30:05And when you invest in yourself, you
30:06invest in your future. So there is
30:09probably a chronic disbelief
30:12that many of us have that we're not
30:15creators of our life. Uh And the only
30:18when we get the parking space or
30:20something good happens to us, do we
30:22believe that we're the creator of our
30:24life? But imagine a world where
30:26everybody actually took responsibility
30:29in being the creator of their life and
30:30no longer the victim of their life. I
30:32think we would see a dramatic shift in
30:34consciousness. That makes people feel
30:36uncomfortable. This idea of personal
30:38responsibility. It's quite a It's almost
30:40become quite a controversial
30:42controversial idea.
30:43The idea that we are the creator of our
30:45lives because then I have to accept
30:47responsibility for all the bad things
30:48that happened. Dave dumped me. I got
30:49fired from work.
30:51Uh someone bumped into my car and it
30:53hurt my neck.
30:54Well, maybe maybe that happened by
30:57default.
30:59Maybe that happened by not creating.
31:02Maybe you were just left to the
31:03randomness
31:05of reality that
31:07that maybe you're not creating.
31:10And the fact that you're not creating,
31:11you're you're left to the effects of
31:14your environment actually controlling
31:17you, controlling your feelings and
31:19thoughts. And By creating, what do you
31:21mean by creating? Is it Well, well, if
31:23you
31:24If you woke up every morning and you
31:26truly made time to think like this,
31:29okay.
31:30If my personality creates my personal
31:33reality,
31:34and my personality is made of how I
31:36think,
31:37how I act, and how I feel.
31:39If I want to create a new personal
31:41reality, a new life,
31:44I'm going to have to change my
31:45personality. And most people try to
31:47create a new reality, a new personal
31:49reality, as the same personality, and it
31:51doesn't work. We literally have to
31:53become someone else. So if you said,
31:55okay,
31:57let me not default
31:59and go unconscious to that 95% of who I
32:02am that's programmed. Let me become so
32:04conscious of the way I think. Let me
32:07become so aware of how I'm going to act
32:08today. Let me decide what emotions keep
32:11me connected to my past and bring me to
32:13a lower level of lower level of energy.
32:15Let me not
32:17go unconscious.
32:19And then if you said, okay,
32:21if a belief is just a thought I keep
32:22thinking over and over again, what
32:24thoughts do I want to fire and wire in
32:26my brain? And with attention and with
32:29intention
32:30to begin to familiarize yourself with a
32:33new way of thinking. Meditation means to
32:35become familiar with.
32:38If you keep firing and wiring those
32:40circuits, you're going to begin to
32:41install the hardware. Repeat it enough
32:43times and it becomes a software program.
32:45That could be the new voice in your head
32:47that says, "I can. It is possible."
32:50If you said, okay,
32:52when did I fall from grace yesterday?
32:54When did I When did I lose it? Oh my
32:55gosh, it was with at work, with my
32:58co-workers, with my ex, with my enemy,
33:00with the news, with traffic.
33:04Acting this way is not going to make me
33:06happy.
33:07If I had another opportunity, another
33:09opportunity, how would I do it?
33:12If you could close your eyes and
33:14rehearse in your mind mentally how you
33:17were going to behave in certain
33:18situations,
33:19I'll give you a specific one.
33:21Anyone. So I'll give you the specific
33:23one where
33:24late late at night, on occasion, I've
33:27eaten things that I really regret
33:29eating. Al- Also, another one that I'm
33:30I'm trying to work hard on is I can be
33:32very messy
33:34with when I travel. So my my hotel room
33:36can look like a mess, and I don't like
33:38that about myself. And I don't know why
33:39I do it, but it's almost like you talk
33:41about being unconscious. I'm clearly not
33:43thinking about it. But that's part of
33:45the problem. And it's the same with the
33:46bloody sugar at midnight.
33:49Eating ordering things that are
33:51and then feeling instant guilt 10
33:53seconds after I've put it in my mouth.
33:55Well, that Well,
33:56it may be that on some level
34:01Well, you could actually be addicted to
34:03the guilt and not to the sugar.
34:07And so you you return to the same
34:10emotional state
34:12that allows that action to reoccur. So
34:16if you said, let me decide
34:19how I am going to act, what I'm not
34:21going to do, and you rehearsed it, the
34:23research on mental rehearsal says your
34:26brain will look like you already did it.
34:28That you'll be so present, the brain
34:30won't know the difference between what
34:32you're imagining and what is real. The
34:34brain will begin to change to look like
34:36the experience has already happened.
34:37Now, you're priming your brain for that
34:40behavior. Keep rehearsing it. Rehearsing
34:42it how? So give me Well,
34:45So I play
34:45Mentally Mentally rehearsing Mental
34:47rehearsal is one of these great ideas in
34:49neuroscience where you can actually
34:51install circuits in your brain, right?
34:52So everybody has done this.
34:55Musicians do it. They're playing a song
34:57in their mind all the time. Athletes do
34:59it. They're always going over their
35:01moves. Uh dancers do it. Actors do it.
35:04Uh so many people rehearse mentally what
35:07they're about to do. And when they do
35:09that, they actually prime their brain.
35:11They actually can change their brain
35:13and change their body just by thought
35:15alone.
35:15Physiologically changes.
35:17Physiologically change. You can take a
35:18group of people
35:20that never played the piano before
35:22and divide them into two different
35:24groups and do functional brain scans on
35:26both groups. One group,
35:28they'll come for 2 hours a day for 5
35:30days and they'll practice these
35:32one-handed scales and chords. Now, you
35:35learn something new, you make new
35:36connections in your brain. You get some
35:38instruction, you get your body involved.
35:40When you get your body involved, you're
35:41going to have an experience. You pay
35:43attention to what you're doing and you
35:44repeat it over and over again. Nerve
35:46cells that fire together wire together.
35:48You're going to begin to install new
35:49circuits in the opposite side of your
35:51brain. That's That's common.
35:54You do the scan at the end, you see
35:55those actual physical changes. You take
35:57those people the other group and you ask
35:59them to close their eyes without lifting
36:01a finger.
36:02Have them mentally rehearse those scales
36:04and chords, and at the end of 5 days,
36:07they grow the same amount of circuits in
36:08their brain as the people who actually
36:10physically demonstrated the act. In
36:12other words, they were so present with
36:14what they were doing, the brain did not
36:16know the difference between the real
36:18life experience and what they were
36:19imagining. The brain was physically
36:21changing to look like they already
36:23experienced it. They already did it.
36:25So now, you take those people
36:28never played the piano before, they've
36:29just been mentally rehearsing for 2
36:31hours a day for 5 days. You set them in
36:32front of a piano, and they could
36:34actually play those scales and chords.
36:36Why? Cuz they primed their brain for
36:38that behavior.
36:39So then if you're going to prime your
36:41brain for a new behavior, whether you're
36:43the CEO of a company,
36:45whether you're a parent,
36:47uh whether you're learning something,
36:50the more you rehearse it mentally, the
36:52more you prime your brain and body for
36:54the act. So you could actually practice
36:57rehearsing how you're going to change in
36:59your life. And if you keep doing it
37:01enough times, your behaviors will match
37:03your intentions automatically because
37:05you have the mind installed to do it. If
37:06you don't have the mind installed to do
37:08it, you'll go back to the same past
37:09behavior. So I play through that
37:11scenario of making the decision
37:15differently. Exactly. And rehearse it in
37:17your mind until it feels right. Do you
37:19feel like I could actually do that? And
37:21go from start to finish without losing
37:23your attention.
37:24And so that it gets easier each time you
37:26do it. It makes sense then you're you'll
37:28you'll actually do it. And then then if
37:29you said, okay,
37:32enough of this guilt.
37:34I've I've felt enough of it. I don't
37:36like feeling that way. I could actually
37:39break the conditioning of that emotion
37:41in my body. Can I
37:43condition my body? Can I teach my body
37:45to feel something differently? What
37:47would be the feeling that I want to feel
37:49if I was able to do it? Would it be
37:51worth? Would it be self-love? Would it
37:53be freedom? Would it be joy? Let me
37:56teach my body emotionally
37:58what a future could actually feel like
38:00before it happens.
38:02If you keep doing it over and over
38:03again, you're going to start making more
38:04of those chemicals, and it's become
38:06easier for you to do it. It's going to
38:07become familiar to you. And that's
38:09exactly what meditation is, to become
38:12familiar with an old self, to know
38:13thyself. Become so conscious of that
38:16unconscious self that you don't go
38:17unconscious to that self. And how many
38:20times do we have to forget
38:22until we stop forgetting and start
38:23remembering? That's the moment of
38:24change.
38:26What thoughts do I want to fire and wire
38:28in my brain? Let me become familiar with
38:29those. What behaviors do I want to
38:31demonstrate? What would greatness do?
38:33What would love do?
38:35And actually rehearse a greater a
38:37greater way. Rehearse it enough times so
38:39that you could actually step into that
38:41footprint. Teach your body emotionally
38:43that there's another way to feel and do
38:45it over and over again. It'll become
38:46familiar to you. And so the model of
38:49change is unlearning and relearning.
38:51It's breaking the habit of the old self
38:53and reinventing a new self. It's pruning
38:55synaptic connections and sprouting new
38:57connections. It's unfiring and unwiring,
38:59refiring and rewiring, deprogramming and
39:02reprogramming, losing your mind and
39:04creating a new one, unmemorizing
39:06emotions that have been stored in the
39:08body and then reconditioning the body to
39:09a new mind, to a new emotion. Turns out
39:12if you teach people how to do that,
39:14in 7 days you can see very profound
39:16biological changes if they immerse
39:18themselves into the experience. And what
39:20do these biological changes look like?
39:23Well, um so we run week-long events um
39:27around the world. And I think it's so
39:30important to do events uh in person with
39:33community.
39:35Uh because it's a flock. It's a herd.
39:37It's a school. Um
39:38it's a collective.
39:40And so uh that exact process in 7 days,
39:44uh we take people through a very
39:46immersive experience. And we do
39:49functional brain scans or fMRIs or
39:52quantitative EEGs before they start the
39:54event and then we at the end of 7 days
39:57we look at their brains
39:58at the end of 7 days and there are
40:00dramatic changes
40:01in the way their brain works, very
40:03significant changes.
40:05Some of them are really outstanding
40:06changes.
40:08We
40:08put teach people how to create more
40:11heart coherence. When you feel anger,
40:12when you feel frustration, when you feel
40:14impatience, when you feel resentment,
40:17your heart beats out of order. When you
40:18feel gratitude, when you have kindness
40:20and care,
40:22when you feel love for life, your heart
40:23beats in more orderly fashion. You can
40:25actually train somebody to get good at
40:27feeling that way and we we use that and
40:30we see people at the end of 7 days be
40:32able to regulate their heart much better
40:34and it's a function of really how soon
40:37or how slow we age.
40:39We take a blood and we measure 2,882
40:43different metabolites in in a person's
40:46blood.
40:47And at the end of 7 days we measure
40:49again and
40:51I can tell you that if you're a novice
40:53meditator,
40:55really never meditated before, kind of
40:57your first event,
40:59and you go through that 7-day process,
41:01at the end of 7 days, there's so many
41:04biological changes that are taking place
41:06in the
41:07collective, in the community, not just
41:09one, not just to the majority of people
41:11and I mean a significant majority of
41:13people
41:14suggesting that their body literally is
41:16living in a new environment and in a new
41:18life. And there are chemicals
41:20in their bloodstream in terms of
41:22information
41:24that wasn't there prior to the event. In
41:26other words,
41:28some way without taking any drug,
41:31without any taking any exogenous
41:32substance,
41:34um,
41:35without changing their diet, without
41:37changing their lifestyle in any other
41:38way except going through this process,
41:40eating the same foods that they
41:41typically eat,
41:43that at the end of 7 days there's
41:45chemistry, there's biology that suggests
41:48that somehow their biology is changing
41:50significantly.
41:52Um, we measure gene expression.
41:55Uh, I can tell you that you can change
41:56your gene expression in 7 days.
41:59Um, we measure microbiome and um, once
42:02again, 7 days there are dramatic changes
42:05in the microbiome uh, and the mind
42:07somehow is making significant and and
42:10effective changes in our in our body.
42:12So, um, our research is pretty
42:15outstanding because
42:16um,
42:17a 7-day
42:19uh, intervention uh,
42:21that's producing these effects. Uh,
42:23there's there's not a whole lot of drugs
42:25that that are as effective.
42:27And we've discovered that
42:30the nervous system makes a pharmacy of
42:32chemicals right now that works better
42:34than any drug. That's what we've
42:35discovered and it's all within you.
42:40I am a fixer
42:43in my friendship groups. And what I mean
42:45by that is I'm someone who probably
42:46over-involves them themselves in trying
42:49to help friends change stuff. Which
42:51gift and a curse.
42:53Often times a curse.
42:55But um, I often get because I love
42:57someone and they're close to me and I
42:59want the best for them,
43:00when when I see that they are
43:02experiencing a recurring pattern of
43:04behavior or habit um, that is causing
43:07them unhappiness, loneliness, to miss
43:10the goals they have in their life of
43:11becoming a, you know, a husband or a
43:13wife or a partner, whatever it might be,
43:15I have a growing sense of um,
43:17frustration.
43:18Cuz and I and then that sometimes exerts
43:20it it's
43:22that sometimes manifests itself as
43:23trying to, you know, fix and help and
43:25give advice and change them. You must
43:27experience
43:29that in a different way. You're much
43:30smarter than me. You must experience
43:32that in a different way when you meet
43:33people that you can see are having these
43:35recurring patterns of behavior.
43:37And when you see that in them,
43:39has there any has there any ever been
43:41frustration on your part? Have you ever
43:44been frustrated that change hasn't
43:45happened in someone that you loved? God,
43:47you know, I think it's I think it's such
43:50a noble act to change and I and I
43:53understand how hard it is to change.
43:55Uh, I understand that process. So,
43:59I think the greatest thing that I could
44:00ever do for someone is to show them what
44:02change looks like. It's so much more
44:04profound than anything that I could ever
44:06say.
44:07Um,
44:09and I would never offer my opinion to
44:12them. I would love them unconditionally
44:14because I would maybe see a part of
44:15myself
44:17uh, that I've changed and I understand
44:19how hard it is to change or or I
44:22understand that they'll they're going to
44:23have their moment uh, when they're ready
44:25to change. And so I think it's I think
44:28it's really interesting because what
44:30I've learned over the years is that no
44:32new information
44:34can enter the nervous system that's not
44:36equal to the person's emotional state.
44:38You can give them
44:40the answer, the right answer to the
44:42problem and they won't hear it cuz it's
44:45not relevant equal to the emotion that
44:48they're experiencing.
44:50What we've learned is that
44:52you take people and just say 7 days,
44:54just cross the river of change. Go from
44:56the old self to the new self, immerse
44:58yourself fully into it,
45:00break free from the chains of those
45:02emotions that keep you anchored to the
45:03past, overcome those habits and
45:05behaviors that keep you programmed into
45:07a predictable future,
45:09um, overcome um,
45:12all those aspects of your beliefs that
45:14keep you stuck in a certain state in
45:16terms of how you're thinking and those
45:17hardwired perceptions.
45:197 days, break free and and normally the
45:23person has the answer
45:24uh, to their own question. I think
45:26that's when it becomes really relevant,
45:29when you have your own insight, your own
45:30epiphany, when it's your own truth cuz
45:32you've you've worked to get beyond it.
45:36People when they analyze themselves or
45:38analyze their life within some
45:40disturbing emotion, when we looked at
45:42the real-time brain scans, we saw that
45:44they were actually making their brain
45:46worse.
45:47They were driving their brain further
45:48out of balance, overthinking,
45:50over-analyzing.
45:52Uh, and so,
45:54when you analyze something within an
45:56emotion, an emotion is a is a record of
45:58the past. So, you're thinking in the
46:00past, the solution could never be there.
46:02Free the person from that emotion and of
46:04course they they see they they see it
46:07from a greater level of consciousness.
46:12For all those people listening right now
46:13that are like me that try and fix
46:17because of through I mean through what
46:18they think of as love, I may maybe be
46:20doing it for other reasons, but
46:23what what could they do to be a better
46:25ally or friend or partner to that
46:27individual? But based on everything
46:29you've said that maybe they need their
46:31own moment or, you know,
46:33their emotional system isn't in
46:34regulation with their information.
46:36God, anytime we we're going to do
46:38anybody a great service is to help them
46:41out of their emotional state. I mean,
46:42it's not a lecture that's going to help
46:44them. Come on, let's go do something.
46:45Come on, let's go. Just get them doing
46:47something, just breaking themselves out
46:49of that state. It's not like the answer,
46:51it's they you they have to change their
46:53state to get the answer. So,
46:55if I were to do anything,
46:57I would want to help them shorten their
46:59emotional reaction to get them get
47:00beyond the emotion. Whatever that is and
47:02I wouldn't be a lecture, it would be
47:04something fun that we did or something
47:05unusual that we did or just trying
47:07something. Just let's just do something.
47:11And I think I think showing people what
47:13what what love looks like, show them
47:15what joy looks like, show them what
47:16happiness looks like. I think I think
47:19people notice that. I think I think they
47:21pay attention to that. It gives them
47:22permission
47:24uh, to do the same.
47:26So,
47:27um,
47:28maybe just show up as um,
47:31the person you would want to be around
47:33if you were feeling that way.
47:37When you look at the state of the world
47:38at the moment and the direction of
47:40travel, the trajectory of,
47:42you know, technology and the way we're
47:43living our lives and the decisions we're
47:45making at a collective level,
47:47what are the things that most concern
47:49you?
47:51What I always ask myself is it getting
47:52better or is it getting worse, you know?
47:55And I I think um,
47:57in my lifetime I don't think I've ever
48:00experienced the world
48:02as it is today, just with so many
48:04variations of so many things.
48:07Uh,
48:08and I question the information that I'm
48:11receiving.
48:13Uh, and I think that we need some type
48:15of intervention as a species. We need we
48:19we need a change.
48:20We need an intervention in some way.
48:24You question the information you're
48:25receiving from where and what kind of
48:26interven- intervention are you
48:28suggesting? I just don't know that the
48:30information that I that I am exposed to
48:32or information that people are exposed
48:34to is the truth. Uh, I just question
48:37that these days. And and there because
48:39you can you can get so many you can get
48:41so many degrees of it and so many
48:43and I and I don't know if it's
48:46uh, based in altruism, you know, for the
48:48for the goodness of human beings or or
48:51for self-interests and I and I think
48:53that's a I think people are waking up
48:56more to the understanding that something
48:59has to change, you know, for us to
49:01really survive as a species.
49:03And what are the symptoms of
49:06the cultural disease that you're talking
49:09about? What are they?
49:10A lack of connection.
49:13Uh, you know,
49:14you know, we're in 3D reality, you know,
49:16connecting, communing, cooperating, uh,
49:20uh,
49:21uh, creating. I think those are things
49:23that um,
49:25I think if you keep people in survival
49:27and you keep them in fear and you keep
49:28them at war and you keep them angry and
49:30you keep them in pain and you keep them
49:33confused and you can control their
49:35attention um,
49:36by controlling their emotions.
49:39Um
49:40I think I think
49:42we're going to you know
49:44we may not make it you know as as a
49:46species.
49:47But I think that when people truly come
49:50together in in in an elevated state, I
49:55think it's collective networks of
49:57observers that determine reality.
50:00And I don't think it's the number of
50:01people. I think it's the most coherent
50:03in heart and brain that begin to produce
50:06effects.
50:07So the coming of
50:09a new consciousness has to be a
50:12collective. It's not one person.
50:15It's a collective group of people and
50:17and I believe that you get enough people
50:20collectively coming together that we can
50:22hopefully uh
50:24uh steer it in a different direction.
50:25Hopefully. Yeah.
50:28How about you?
50:29Are you optimistic?
50:31I am. I'm optimistic because I think
50:33people by nature
50:36are good.
50:37I think there's goodness in human beings
50:38and
50:39I have the privilege of traveling around
50:41the world and I see that and it
50:43transcends countries and cultures and
50:46races and gender. It transcends diet. It
50:48transcends all that stuff.
50:50Uh it's just when people are happy with
50:52themselves and in love with life. Um I
50:55think I think their natural tendency is
50:57to give and I think we're wired to do
50:59that when we're not in survival.
51:02When we're not in survival. When you use
51:03this word survival
51:05are you talking about the the fight or
51:07flight state that we um
51:10many of us live in? Yeah. I would say I
51:12would say that living in stress is
51:14living in survival and stress is when
51:16your brain and body are knocked out of
51:17homeostasis.
51:19Stress is when your brain and body are
51:21knocked out of balance. The stress
51:22response is what the body innately does
51:24to return itself back to balance.
51:27The problem is is that if you keep
51:29turning on that fight or flight system,
51:31you keep turning on that emergency
51:32system
51:34um it will actually cause people to stay
51:36out of balance and that imbalance
51:37becomes the new balance.
51:39And they're headed for some type of
51:40disease, some type of breakdown. No
51:42organism can tolerate emergency mode for
51:45an extended period of time and when
51:47you're in survival and that primitive
51:48system is switched on
51:50it's really about the self.
51:52Uh when you're in survival, you have to
51:53take care of yourself. So
51:55um the emotions of anger and hostility
51:59and aggression and competition and
52:01frustration and resentment
52:03and envy and jealousy and insecurity and
52:05fear and anxiety and hopelessness and
52:07powerlessness and depression and pain
52:09and suffering guilt and shame are all
52:11derived
52:12from the hormones of stress and
52:13psychology calls them normal human
52:15states of consciousness. Those are
52:17altered states of consciousness. And
52:19when we're in that state, when we're
52:21living in survival
52:23we experience separation. We we divide
52:26in in in a lot of ways.
52:28And so there's biology that goes along
52:31with that and
52:32that the hormones of stress heighten the
52:34senses and cause us to become
52:36materialists and and now when we're in
52:38lack or separation, we force outcomes.
52:41We control outcomes. We fight for
52:42outcomes. We compete for outcomes. We
52:45manipulate outcomes. In a lot of ways we
52:48we turn into a more of a primitive self.
52:49So
52:51it's hard
52:52um
52:53to change that especially when you don't
52:56have enough money
52:58or you just lost your job or you just
53:00ended a relationship or
53:04your best friend passed, uh it's really
53:06hard um to move beyond those emotional
53:09states.
53:10Um and so I think that that teaching
53:13people um
53:15how to change those emotional states and
53:16move out of those are really important
53:18and and
53:19um
53:2075 to 90% of every person that goes to a
53:23healthcare facility in the western world
53:25goes in because of psychological or
53:28emotional stress. That's eight or nine
53:29out of 10.
53:31And and emotional stress and
53:32psychological stress are the ones that
53:33tend to be the most harmful.
53:35Because if it's not T-Rex that's chasing
53:37you, but it's your coworker in the next
53:39cubicle, what was once very adaptive
53:42becomes very maladaptive.
53:44And and the rush of those adrenal
53:47hormones
53:49become kind of addictive to people.
53:52And they use the problems, they use the
53:54conditions in their life to reaffirm
53:56their addiction to that emotion. They
53:57need their enemy to feel hatred. And and
54:00if their enemy died, they'd they'd still
54:02feel hatred or they'd find another one.
54:05Uh they need the bad relationship. They
54:08need the bad job in order to feel and
54:10that's why it's hard to change and
54:12people become addicted to the life they
54:14don't even like.
54:16And so if you can turn on the stress
54:18response just by thought alone, by
54:20thinking about your problems, then
54:21that's the truth
54:22you can become addicted to your own
54:23thoughts.
54:25And if the long-term effects of the
54:26hormones of stress push the genetic
54:28buttons that create disease your
54:30thoughts can make you sick.
54:33And then the question is if your
54:34thoughts can make you sick, can your
54:35thoughts make you well? And we're
54:36actually discovering that that's
54:38absolutely possible.
54:40So then
54:41teaching people then a little bit about
54:43how to manage their emotional state and
54:45to self-regulate I think is a great gift
54:47for people because when they begin to
54:51break an addiction to any emotion or the
54:54conditioning of any emotion, there's
54:56going to be cravings that go on just
54:57like just like any addict there, you
54:59know, and and you've many people
55:01overdose and many people have bad trips
55:04and
55:05and so when they start changing and the
55:08body's craving uh those familiar
55:10emotions, the body starts signaling the
55:13brain, you know, of memories or to think
55:16certain ways and to make certain
55:17choices, do certain things, crave
55:19certain experiences just to feel that
55:21same emotion. And people say, well
55:24this feels right.
55:25No, that feels familiar. That really
55:27feels familiar. And and many people will
55:30tell the story
55:32of why they feel that way based on some
55:34past experience and it's usually not in
55:37the recent past. It's usually many years
55:39ago. Like a toxic relationship Whatever
55:41that is. And so
55:44they're basically saying I had an event
55:46in my life and since that event I'm
55:48still living by the same emotion and I
55:49haven't been able to change.
55:52And they'll tell the story of that past
55:54and in psychology, the latest research
55:56on memory shows that 50% of that story
55:59isn't even the truth.
56:01They're they're they're making it up
56:03because they don't have the same brain
56:04as they had then. And so then people
56:07people are reliving a miserable life
56:09they never even had just to excuse
56:11themselves from changing.
56:14And they embellish the stories so that
56:16it sounds really hard to change.
56:18So what is it what is that point then
56:21for a person when they say
56:23the only person
56:26that this emotion of hatred or anger
56:28frustration or resentment, the only
56:30person that this is hurting is me.
56:34Because those those chemicals are down
56:36regulating genes and creating disease
56:39and a person finally really realizes
56:41that and they really decide to change.
56:44When they overcome the emotion
56:47the memory without the emotion is called
56:48wisdom and that's the name of the game
56:50in three-dimensional reality. Now
56:52they're ready for a new experience.
56:54It's not it's not reliving the past. You
56:56don't need to. You don't need to talk
56:57about it. All you need to do is overcome
56:59the emotion. When you overcome the
57:00emotion, you're free from the past.
57:02You can see it from a greater level of
57:04consciousness and that's when a person
57:05so many times in when they truly change,
57:08they'll say this. We've seen it over and
57:09over again.
57:11They reach that point where they finally
57:12break through and they and some of them
57:14have had some really difficult past.
57:16They'll say, I would not want to change
57:18one thing in my past because it brought
57:21me to this moment. That's the moment the
57:24past no longer exists. And they can look
57:26at their betrayers
57:28and see it with all had to happen for
57:30that moment and now they're they're
57:32free. They they no longer belong to the
57:34past. They belong to the future.
57:37I've never heard the concept or idea of
57:38being addicted to a negative emotion.
57:40People talk to me about being addicted
57:42to dopamine and pleasure and
57:44sh you know, and all those things and
57:46you know, like masturbation and
57:48sugar and but the thought of being
57:50addicted to a negative emotion is what
57:52you said to me earlier about the guilt.
57:53Well, well, think about this.
57:57What do people do when they when they
57:59feel an emotion?
58:01What do they do? They rely on something
58:04outside of them
58:06to make that emotion go away. So whether
58:08it's
58:09the masturbation or the pornography or
58:12the gambling or the shopping or the
58:14sugar or the whatever, it's all because
58:16they're trying to make that feeling go
58:18away and they're using something outside
58:20of them. So then
58:21there is some emotion that the person is
58:24regulating. That's why they're doing
58:26that. They're doing that, right? So
58:28so change the emotional state and it
58:30makes sense then the need to do it
58:32diminishes.
58:35Which is not
58:37doesn't seem to be very easy to do.
58:39Change my emotional state. Well, again,
58:41I think um
58:45if you if you understood
58:47what you were doing and why you were
58:48doing it, just like learning anything,
58:50if you if you understood a formula
58:52I think it wouldn't be as hard as you
58:54think it is.
58:55I mean because there is a way to change.
58:59And step one in that process of change
59:01is new information. Always.
59:03It's the forerunner to any experience.
59:07Without the information, we doubt
59:10that it's possible.
59:12And again, that the information and the
59:15science removes the doubt.
59:20I've I was doing some research recently
59:22about um why people change their beliefs
59:25and why they don't change their beliefs
59:26and some beliefs they're more
59:27susceptible to take on some information
59:29they're more they're susceptible to take
59:31on. One of the things I read about was
59:33when they believe the source. Yeah.
59:35Another thing I read about was when they
59:36when it's good news. So, if in studies
59:38where they say to someone you're more
59:40attractive according to the public than
59:41you believed, they're likely to shift
59:44rather than finding out they're less
59:45attractive. And also things like health,
59:46you're more healthy than you thought you
59:47were genetically, they're more likely to
59:49shift a belief. The nature of our
59:51beliefs and the nature of belief change,
59:53um
59:53I I was writing in in in my book about
59:56how um
59:58looking in the mirror and telling
1:00:00yourself something, like some of the
1:00:02sort of modern-day manifestation
1:00:04community belief, doesn't seem to work.
1:00:06Just looking in the mirror and telling
1:00:07myself that I'm beautiful and rich and
1:00:10successful and powerful doesn't seem to
1:00:12be an effective way to cause actual
1:00:14belief change.
1:00:16Do you agree or disagree with this idea
1:00:18that you can look in the mirror and say
1:00:19something to yourself?
1:00:21When when we study belief and the change
1:00:25in belief,
1:00:27uh I want I'll answer it on two levels,
1:00:29Stephen. The first level is that in
1:00:31order for a person to change a belief or
1:00:33perception about themselves and their
1:00:35life,
1:00:37majority of those people made a decision
1:00:39with such firm intention that the
1:00:41amplitude of that decision carried a
1:00:44level of energy that was greater than
1:00:46the hardwired programs in their brain
1:00:48and the emotional conditioning their
1:00:49body. As I said earlier, their body
1:00:51literally responded to their mind. The
1:00:54choice that they were making
1:00:56became a moment in time they would never
1:00:58forget. They'll tell you where they
1:00:59were, what time of day it was, who they
1:01:01were with when they made up their mind
1:01:03to change. It became a long-term memory.
1:01:05And the stronger the emotion we feel,
1:01:07the more altered we are inside of us,
1:01:09the more we remember that choice.
1:01:10That's why we need pain sometimes.
1:01:12That's when you said when you painted
1:01:14yourself into a corner and you said,
1:01:15"This is it.
1:01:17I don't care how I feel, body.
1:01:21I don't care how long it takes, time. I
1:01:23don't care what people think. I don't
1:01:25care what's going on in my life,
1:01:26environment. I'm going to do this." And
1:01:29you made up your mind the moment you
1:01:30felt that emotion, you were aligning to
1:01:32a new future and to change
1:01:34is to be greater than your body, to be
1:01:36greater than your environment, and to be
1:01:37greater than time.
1:01:39And so,
1:01:41when a person comes out of their resting
1:01:42state,
1:01:43because your body is trillions of cells,
1:01:4770 trillion cells, and they're all
1:01:48spying on your brain.
1:01:50And if you were sitting there and and
1:01:51you said, "Nine out of 10 times, I'm
1:01:55going to fake standing up. One time, I'm
1:01:57actually going to stand up." Before you
1:01:59ever made that conscious decision, your
1:02:01body is so precognitive, it already
1:02:03knows when you're going to stand up cuz
1:02:05it's got to release a certain amount of
1:02:07adrenaline so the same volume of your
1:02:09blood goes to your brain.
1:02:11So, if you're sitting on the couch with
1:02:12the remote control and you got your cell
1:02:15phone here and your iPad here and your
1:02:17computer here and your dog here and your
1:02:19beer here and the big TV there
1:02:21and you're eating your popcorn and and
1:02:23you say, "You know, I I think um
1:02:27I'm going to change tomorrow."
1:02:29You What do you think your precognitive
1:02:30body's going to say? Relax, he's lying
1:02:33again. He's not He's not willing to He's
1:02:36not willing to signal the body it's time
1:02:38to ride, you know, it's not There's no
1:02:40signal to the body.
1:02:42And so, making that choice to change
1:02:46your state of being with a clear
1:02:47intention and elevated emotion actually
1:02:50changes your state to believe in that
1:02:52future more than you believe in your
1:02:54past. Keep it up. Keep doing it. That's
1:02:56a big explosion in the field. That's
1:02:58important. That's a change in energy.
1:03:00And nobody changes until they change
1:03:02their energy. And when they change their
1:03:03energy, they change their life. So, then
1:03:05you make up your mind to do that and all
1:03:07of a sudden, you have that
1:03:08synchronicity. You have that
1:03:10serendipity. You have that coincidence.
1:03:11And all of a sudden, you're saying,
1:03:13"Hey, that worked. Something I did
1:03:14inside of me produced an effect outside
1:03:17of me. I'm going to pay attention to
1:03:18what I did. I'm going to do it again.
1:03:19I'll try it again. Let's the experiment
1:03:21continue." You do it again and then you
1:03:23say, "Well, when did I stop
1:03:24disbelieving? Oh my god, I was stopped
1:03:26disbelieving when I ran into that
1:03:27person. We had that conversation and I'm
1:03:29like, "God,
1:03:30I returned back to my old belief again.
1:03:32Okay. Next time that happens, that I'm
1:03:34going to This is what I'll do." And you
1:03:35rehearse it in. So, your evolution
1:03:39in your belief in self it changes as
1:03:41well. So, then
1:03:43so many people, second point, will
1:03:46actually say this, "You know, I read the
1:03:49philosophy. I understand the knowledge.
1:03:51I understand what it means to change. I
1:03:52understand the power of meditation. I
1:03:54saw the testimonials. I saw people heal.
1:03:57I believe it's the truth.
1:03:58I just didn't believe it could work for
1:04:00me. This is a big moment. This is a
1:04:03moment where you step out of the
1:04:04bleachers and you got to get on the
1:04:05playing field.
1:04:07That's the person who says, "If this
1:04:09works and I believe it it works, I got
1:04:11to prove it to myself. I got to actually
1:04:14I got to actually prove it to myself
1:04:16that I believe that it could work for
1:04:17me."
1:04:19And some of them show up every day for a
1:04:21year and never miss their work. Never
1:04:23miss their meditation. A whole year in
1:04:26changing from the old self to the new
1:04:27self. They were doing their meditations
1:04:29to change, not to heal.
1:04:31They were doing their meditations to
1:04:32change and when they changed, they
1:04:34healed. They did their meditations
1:04:35sometimes three times a day because they
1:04:37stopped believing. They start
1:04:39disbelieving and they were like, "I
1:04:40defaulted. Why? Cuz I'm feeling the
1:04:43emotion of my past. Some stray thought,
1:04:45some response to someone or something
1:04:47caused me to feel it and I forgot. I'm
1:04:49back to the emotion that's familiar and
1:04:51I can't believe in that future. I'm
1:04:53believing in my past. Let me sit down
1:04:55and change my state of being again and
1:04:57get up believing in my future again."
1:04:59And sometimes they had to do it
1:05:01three times in one day. And when they
1:05:03understood
1:05:05that's the environment that signals the
1:05:07gene, that's epigenetics,
1:05:09and the end product of an experience in
1:05:10the environment is an emotion and it is,
1:05:14you could actually signal genes ahead of
1:05:16the environment by changing your
1:05:17emotional state. They were doing it with
1:05:19that intention.
1:05:21And when you assign meaning to the act,
1:05:23you get a greater outcome and you turn
1:05:24on the prefrontal cortex and now your
1:05:26biology literally begins to change. And
1:05:28we have data that suggests by just
1:05:31having the intention to make certain
1:05:33genes,
1:05:34to make certain proteins or uh signal
1:05:36certain genes and make certain proteins.
1:05:38Just having the intention literally
1:05:40begins to cause the body to make those
1:05:42chemicals.
1:05:45And what causes relapse in those
1:05:47moments?
1:05:48Cuz I've had multiple moments of where I
1:05:50thought behavior change had been
1:05:51established and I managed to conduct a
1:05:53new habit cycle and new behavior,
1:05:56favorable and you know, intended
1:05:58behavior for a period. And then
1:05:59something happens in my life
1:06:02almost subconsciously,
1:06:04seamlessly.
1:06:05Seamlessly, and I'm back Yeah.
1:06:07to all the old circuitry.
1:06:08You went unconscious. You went
1:06:10unconscious and normally
1:06:12it's unconscious to some thought
1:06:15or some response
1:06:18in your environment. You see someone or
1:06:20you do something or you have some
1:06:22interaction in your outer world and the
1:06:24moment you have that interaction, you
1:06:26you causes you to feel a certain way and
1:06:28you return back to to the past,
1:06:31basically. The the emotion is the past.
1:06:33And that the body is actually living in
1:06:36the past. It's so objective, it doesn't
1:06:38know the difference.
1:06:40It doesn't know the difference between
1:06:41the real-life experience that's creating
1:06:42that emotion and the emotion that
1:06:44person's living by every day. It's
1:06:46believing it's in the same past
1:06:47experience again. And it will behave in
1:06:50the past and it will think in the past.
1:06:51Subconsciously. Subconsciously.
1:06:53Seamlessly. So, I could for for example,
1:06:56if going to
1:06:57I don't know, let's say France. I had a
1:07:00traumatic experience in France when I
1:07:01was 10 years old, let's just say. And
1:07:03then I go to France when I'm 30 years
1:07:04old and I get back to I just start
1:07:06eating junk food,
1:07:08for example.
1:07:10And I don't know why. I've like fallen
1:07:11out of my gym habit and I'm eating junk
1:07:12food. That
1:07:14Theoretically, that could be my
1:07:15subconscious that
1:07:16um
1:07:18falling back into a is experiencing that
1:07:20survival without me knowing knowing it?
1:07:22Yes. So, so if to change is to be
1:07:25greater than your environment, to be
1:07:27greater than your body, and to be
1:07:28greater than time,
1:07:30then your neocortex, your thinking
1:07:32brain, is a reflection of everything you
1:07:34know in your life. It's an artifact of
1:07:36the past. It's a record repository of
1:07:39everything you've learned and
1:07:40experienced to this date. And you have a
1:07:42neurological network for everything
1:07:44known in your environment. Your parents,
1:07:47your friends, your car, your computer,
1:07:49every object, every person, everything
1:07:50you have a neurological network for your
1:07:52identity as your body, from your past,
1:07:55for your ambitions in your future. Your
1:07:57brain is reflection of everything that's
1:07:59known.
1:08:00And because you've experienced all these
1:08:02elements in your environment, there's an
1:08:03emotion associated with it. So, you have
1:08:05an emotion associated with certain
1:08:06people, different emotions associated
1:08:08with other people, different emotions
1:08:10associated with other objects and things
1:08:12and other places and time.
1:08:14So, then
1:08:16there's so much research to show that
1:08:18when you put a person in the same
1:08:20environment and they see the same people
1:08:22and they go to the same places and they
1:08:23do the same things at the exact same
1:08:25time, it's no longer their personality
1:08:27is creating their personal reality.
1:08:29Their personal reality is creating their
1:08:31personality. Their environment is
1:08:33controlling unconsciously or
1:08:36subconsciously the way they're thinking
1:08:38and the way they're feeling. So, when
1:08:40they see their co-worker, when they see
1:08:42their friend, when they see their
1:08:43parents, they're seeing their parents,
1:08:45their friends, their co-workers in their
1:08:47neurological network as a memory of the
1:08:50past. And because every one of those
1:08:52people has an emotion associated with
1:08:54it, they start feeling the emotion
1:08:56that's connected to them and now their
1:08:58state of being then is returning back to
1:09:00the past. So, then to change then is to
1:09:02be greater
1:09:04than your environment, to think, act,
1:09:07and feel differently in the same
1:09:09conditions in your life. That's called
1:09:10change.
1:09:12And how does How would I do that wake
1:09:15from you know,
1:09:17I walk in and I see my parents,
1:09:19mom, dad, dog, house where I grew up in.
1:09:22Is there something that I do in that
1:09:24moment before that moment, when I woke
1:09:26up that morning, to make sure that I
1:09:27didn't slip off into the unconscious
1:09:29um memory and then for and therefore get
1:09:31the sort of unconscious feelings about
1:09:34that experience. Well, whatever it is
1:09:36that you want. If it's If it's
1:09:38overeating, I don't know. I'm making
1:09:39stuff up. If it's
1:09:41some emotional button that you have with
1:09:43your family
1:09:44and and you don't want to feel that way.
1:09:46Yeah, I would rehearse that. If I If I
1:09:48didn't want to have that. If If you have
1:09:49a great If you're in I mean, I go to
1:09:51when I would go to my parents' home when
1:09:53I when I got older
1:09:55it was all most of the associations were
1:09:57so fond for me. Just being at home and
1:09:59being with my parents and remembering
1:10:01where I grew up. It was always fun for
1:10:02me. And and coming back and seeing how
1:10:04much I changed in coming back and seeing
1:10:07the the life that I lived at one point
1:10:08you know, one point in in my timeline.
1:10:11So, if it's something that you truly
1:10:13want to change, you're going to remind
1:10:14yourself
1:10:16how you're not going to think. You're
1:10:18going to You're going to remind yourself
1:10:20how you're not going to act. You're
1:10:22going to remind yourself how you're not
1:10:23going to feel and you got to remind
1:10:25yourself enough times so you don't
1:10:27forget cuz the moment you forget, you go
1:10:28unconscious. Then you're going to remind
1:10:30yourself how you are going to think.
1:10:32You're going to remind yourself what
1:10:33you're going to do and rehearse it in
1:10:35your mind. And you're going to remind
1:10:36yourself what feeling you want to stay
1:10:39in the entire time so you don't default
1:10:41back to the old self. If you practice
1:10:43that, I guarantee you'll make some
1:10:45progress. If you lose it nothing wrong.
1:10:48Tomorrow's another day. You got another
1:10:50You got another chance and we just get
1:10:52really good at whatever we practice.
1:10:54So, then when you return back into your
1:10:56life and you say, "Okay
1:10:59no person
1:11:01no place
1:11:02no thing, no object, no circumstance, no
1:11:05pain, no craving
1:11:08is going to cause me to move from this
1:11:09state today. I guarantee you
1:11:12if you're able to maintain that modified
1:11:14state of mind and body your entire day
1:11:16something unusual happen and will come
1:11:19in a way that you least expect.
1:11:22That surprises you and leaves no doubt
1:11:24that what you're doing inside of you is
1:11:27producing some effect outside of you.
1:11:29And the moment you see the feedback in
1:11:31your environment as a result of your
1:11:32internal change you're going to pay
1:11:34attention and do it again and you're
1:11:35going to start believing, "God, did I
1:11:37really create that? Did that really
1:11:39happen because of how I changed?" That's
1:11:41when the game really begins to become
1:11:43exciting.
1:11:44Practice.
1:11:45Practice. I've been at it a long time.
1:11:49I can tell.
1:11:50Practice. Yeah. Um people hear that they
1:11:53go
1:11:54Joe, how long?
1:11:55How much practice?
1:11:57You know, are you talking about a
1:11:58I've got to I've got to do this for
1:11:59three, four, five years or
1:12:01you know, and and that practice, what
1:12:03does that look like practically
1:12:06for someone like me who hears everything
1:12:08you've just said and wants to make
1:12:09changes in key areas of my life?
1:12:11Okay, so
1:12:14there's two times when the door to the
1:12:15subconscious mind opens up. When you
1:12:17wake up in the morning cuz your brain
1:12:19waves are going from delta to theta to
1:12:21alpha to beta
1:12:22and when you go to bed at night, you go
1:12:23from beta to alpha to theta to delta and
1:12:26you slip through that scale pretty
1:12:27quickly in the morning and the evening.
1:12:30But your brain waves start to change
1:12:31during those times and and one of the
1:12:33features, one of the important elements
1:12:35of meditation is to get beyond the
1:12:37analytical mind.
1:12:39And what separates the conscious mind
1:12:40from the subconscious mind is the
1:12:42analytical mind. So, 5% as we said is
1:12:45our conscious mind, 95% is programmed
1:12:47subconsciously. And if you're going to
1:12:49try to change yourself with your
1:12:51conscious mind, you're outside the
1:12:52operating system.
1:12:54So, then you got to learn how to change
1:12:55your brain waves, slow them down
1:12:58get beyond the analytical mind and enter
1:13:01the operating system where you can
1:13:02rewrite a program, where you can make
1:13:04those changes. And so
1:13:06learn how to do that, practice learn how
1:13:09to do that.
1:13:10And again, it's not a big deal. It's
1:13:12easy to learn.
1:13:14And then once you can slow your brain
1:13:16waves down and you're more suggestible
1:13:18to what you're thinking, now you can
1:13:19reprogram. You can't do with your
1:13:21conscious mind. You can say, "I'm
1:13:22healthy. I'm healthy. I'm wealthy. I'm
1:13:23wealthy. I'm unlimited. I'm unlimited.
1:13:26I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm whole. I'm
1:13:27whole." And your body's saying, "No,
1:13:29you're not, dude. You're miserable.
1:13:31You're unhappy." That thought never
1:13:32makes it past the brain stem to reach
1:13:34the body, right? So
1:13:37it's important for us to in the morning
1:13:39or the evening
1:13:40instead of reaching for our cell phone
1:13:42as the first thing as a habit that we do
1:13:45and checking our texts and our WhatsApp
1:13:47and our Telegram and our social media
1:13:49and our Instagram and our Twitter and
1:13:51and Facebook and whatever else people
1:13:54do, their emails, they get connected to
1:13:56everything known in their life. Before
1:13:57you start that try this out as an
1:13:59experiment. Before you start your day,
1:14:02instead of falling into that redundant
1:14:04habit
1:14:05you know, go on autopilot, just say,
1:14:06"Okay if the change is to be greater
1:14:08than my body, to be greater than my
1:14:10environment, be greater than time
1:14:12and and the environment's so seductive
1:14:15and my body's craving certain emotions
1:14:17and it's programmed to get up and do
1:14:19things, I'm going to sit my body down.
1:14:21I'm going to
1:14:21tame the animal here. And when I'm ready
1:14:24to get up, we're going to get up, not
1:14:26when it's tired or when it wants to go.
1:14:29You could literally go inward and forget
1:14:32about your outer world. No longer think
1:14:34about anything out there.
1:14:36If you could lose track of the familiar
1:14:40past or the predictable future and fall
1:14:42into the present moment. And if you were
1:14:44sitting there in silence aware of
1:14:46nothing but you
1:14:48and you said, "Okay, what is
1:14:50the greatest expression of myself I can
1:14:52be today?"
1:14:54And do that exact process. Let me write
1:14:56down two thoughts that are not going to
1:14:58slip by my awareness unnoticed by me
1:15:01today. Two memories, whatever it is.
1:15:03What are two behaviors I want to change
1:15:05today? Let me stay conscious of them and
1:15:07not go unconscious to them today.
1:15:10Even if it means how I speak.
1:15:13What are two emotions
1:15:15that I live by every day that I can
1:15:16literally change. I want to become
1:15:18conscious of what they feel like in my
1:15:19body. I want to catch them the moment I
1:15:21start feeling them. Let me review them
1:15:23over and over again
1:15:24enough times so I don't go unconscious.
1:15:26Okay, now I'm conscious of my
1:15:28unconscious, that 95%.
1:15:30How do I want to think? How would
1:15:32greatness think today? Let me review it.
1:15:33Let me repeat it. Let me remember how I
1:15:36am going to think. Let me remember how I
1:15:37am going to think.
1:15:39Let me remember how I'm going to behave
1:15:41here when I'm How am I going to act
1:15:43here? Let me rehearse a change I want to
1:15:45make in the certain circumstance.
1:15:48Let me think about how I do want to feel
1:15:50today. Let me open my heart to life
1:15:51again. Let me feel kindness and care and
1:15:54love and gratitude and appreciation. Let
1:15:56me Let me just bring up that feeling.
1:15:58Let me feel it with my heart. Let me
1:15:59keep bringing it up so I can bring it up
1:16:02enough times. I want to get so good
1:16:04at bringing up this feeling with my eyes
1:16:05closed I can do it with my eyes open.
1:16:08You practice that and you not make a
1:16:10decision to not get up until you feel
1:16:12that emotion.
1:16:14And then ask yourself, "Can I stay in
1:16:15this state my entire day?"
1:16:18And if you can't and you go unconscious,
1:16:20ask yourself at the end of the day,
1:16:22"How'd I do?
1:16:23Where'd I go unconscious? Okay, tomorrow
1:16:25morning, new day, new lifetime. Let me
1:16:27go again. Let me try again." And it's
1:16:29the practice, it's the repetition that
1:16:32causes the change. Now, here's
1:16:34the beauty behind this because all of a
1:16:35sudden when those synchronicities start
1:16:37to happen, when the coincidences start
1:16:39to happen, it's no longer a have to.
1:16:42It's no longer, "Oh jeez, I got to go
1:16:43create my life." It's not like that.
1:16:45It's like the magic is happening you
1:16:47don't want it to end. Like you you you
1:16:49realize that you are actually creating
1:16:51outcomes in your life and now you're not
1:16:53you're you're you're you're you're
1:16:54wanting to do the work because you want
1:16:57the magic to continue in your life and
1:16:58that's kind of what I'm super proud of
1:17:00it with our community. We're doers, you
1:17:02know, we they do the work not because
1:17:04they have to, because they love all the
1:17:06changes that happen in their life as a
1:17:08result of it, whether it's a mystical
1:17:09experience, a transcendental moment, you
1:17:11know, a great opportunity in their life.
1:17:14They're like, "Wow, I I I somehow had a
1:17:17hand in creating this." And so the
1:17:20so the excitement of life, the adventure
1:17:22of life, the unknown becomes the becomes
1:17:25the quest.
1:17:28I'm so so I got to admit, I'm one of
1:17:30those people that wakes up in the
1:17:31morning and then just gets dragged
1:17:33dragged off
1:17:35out of the bed
1:17:36by my phone and notifications and off
1:17:38into my day totally unconscious.
1:17:41And there's been so many things that I
1:17:43reflect on in my life and go, "Man, I
1:17:45just really want to
1:17:47I'll get home at the end of the day and
1:17:48I'll look at certain instances where I
1:17:50responded in certain ways and go, "Man,
1:17:51I hate that about myself."
1:17:53And I really want to change that.
1:17:55And it happens again the next day and I
1:17:58go come home and I think, "Man, I hate
1:17:59that about myself and I really want to
1:18:00change that." And it happens the next
1:18:03day. And it's been happening for 2
1:18:04years.
1:18:09When do you want to change that?
1:18:12When you're ready to change that, you
1:18:13will.
1:18:14When you're when it's becomes boring and
1:18:15it becomes predictable. I don't want to
1:18:17have to wait for a crisis or you know,
1:18:19cuz
1:18:20Well, now that you know, you can't not
1:18:22know. Yeah, I know. Yeah.
1:18:24Now that you know, you can't not know.
1:18:25And on some level
1:18:28you may have a belief that you think
1:18:30this is hard.
1:18:32Yeah, I do. Yeah, yeah. Cuz I've
1:18:33struggled with it. Yeah, yeah. And it's
1:18:34just like
1:18:36uh
1:18:36what
1:18:37you going learning snowboarding and
1:18:39never taking a lesson, right? It's going
1:18:41to be like it's going to be tenuous.
1:18:43It's going to be challenging. It's going
1:18:44to be difficult.
1:18:46Put your time in learn how to do it and
1:18:48it gets easier as you do it. It's just
1:18:50like you just you just have to learn the
1:18:52formula. There's a formula that we've
1:18:53discovered that it it's it's actually
1:18:56enjoyable when you do it right.
1:18:58And you actually like it. People want to
1:19:00do more of it because it feels so good
1:19:02and
1:19:03I mean, we see you look at the
1:19:05the HRV measurements with our community,
1:19:07look at our brain scans. These are
1:19:09people that they're not faking ecstasy.
1:19:12They're not faking it. Their brain is at
1:19:13such a a level of arousal.
1:19:16And the arousal's not pain. The
1:19:18arousal's not
1:19:19fear. The arousal's not aggression or
1:19:22anger. the arousal is ecstasy. The brain
1:19:24is going in this heightened state.
1:19:26They're making a connection to something
1:19:28really big. And that feels really good.
1:19:30And when they realize that they've hit
1:19:32something really big and it's not coming
1:19:34from anyone or anything outside of them,
1:19:37they stop looking for it out there and
1:19:38they realize it's been within them the
1:19:40whole time. I think I think
1:19:42so many people
1:19:43want so many things in their life, but
1:19:45what we really want is wholeness.
1:19:47Cuz when you have wholeness, you can't
1:19:49want. How could you want when you're
1:19:50whole? You only want when you're in
1:19:52lack.
1:19:53When there's brain and heart coherence,
1:19:55um
1:19:55there's a level of wholeness that takes
1:19:57place
1:19:58where a person is no longer interested
1:20:00in separation or lack. They feel like
1:20:02they have everything they want. That's a
1:20:03great place to be in.
1:20:05And we've discovered that the more
1:20:07relaxed you are in your heart,
1:20:09the more awake you are in your brain.
1:20:11It's relaxed in the heart and awake in
1:20:13the brain, and we teach that. People
1:20:15actually can get good at doing that.
1:20:17I really want to talk to you about this
1:20:18brain coherence and this heart
1:20:19coherence. Um I have to
1:20:22close off on that morning
1:20:24routine thing by asking you exactly what
1:20:26did you do this morning? Ooh.
1:20:29This morning.
1:20:31Uh I was up probably around uh
1:20:354:30.
1:20:36Yeah.
1:20:37Why? Because there's nobody that can
1:20:39bother me at that time.
1:20:41There's no
1:20:44emails, there's no texts, there's
1:20:46there's no there's my it's my time. What
1:20:48time were you in bed?
1:20:50Um probably between uh 10:00 and 11:00.
1:20:54Okay.
1:20:55So that's not enough sleep for you, huh?
1:20:58Well,
1:20:59no, that is. I think I I actually
1:21:00measure my sleep, so I
1:21:02and I look at it every day. That's part
1:21:03of the reason I'm dragging out of bed,
1:21:04but Yeah, for me 4:00 in the morning,
1:21:065:00 in the morning is a really great
1:21:07time. I just I I've just conditioned my
1:21:09body that way.
1:21:11Um that's the time. And and I I spend a
1:21:14little time
1:21:15uh remembering what I'm doing. What am I
1:21:17doing? What are you doing
1:21:19in this meditation? Why are you doing
1:21:20this meditation? What are you about to
1:21:22do? I like to
1:21:24just get myself
1:21:25in my think box. Organizing what am I
1:21:27not going to think about, what am I
1:21:29going to stay away from, what am I not
1:21:30going to do uh in my meditation. Let me
1:21:32review that. What I am what am I going
1:21:33to do?
1:21:35When I get that all worked out, then I
1:21:36get in my play box. In my play box,
1:21:38there's no thinking. I've got all the
1:21:39thinking done in my think box. In my
1:21:41play box, it's really about me changing
1:21:43my state.
1:21:44And so um I allow for 2 hours every
1:21:47morning. Doesn't mean I always take it
1:21:49uh or need it, let me say that, but I
1:21:51allow for 2 hours. Sometimes I like to
1:21:53just get my mind
1:21:54straight, and then
1:21:56uh I do the work. And I do the work and
1:21:58and
1:21:59uh I like to get to that point where
1:22:02when I'm done, I feel
1:22:03like something changed. Do the work.
1:22:05Yeah.
1:22:07What does the work look like?
1:22:09It's meditation. Yeah.
1:22:11It's finding the present moment. It's
1:22:13getting into the unknown. It's getting
1:22:15beyond myself, disconnecting from my
1:22:17body, getting beyond
1:22:19any thought of anyone or anything,
1:22:21getting beyond time, moving beyond space
1:22:23and time.
1:22:25Turns out when you focus on nothing,
1:22:27there are so many amazing things that
1:22:28happen to your brain. I've seen the
1:22:30scans over and over again.
1:22:33What have you seen in the scans?
1:22:36Well, there's this thing in the brain
1:22:37called modularity.
1:22:40And when we're living uh by the hormones
1:22:42of stress, and stress is when you can't
1:22:45predict something,
1:22:46when you can't control something, or you
1:22:48have the perception that something's
1:22:49going to get worse. You switch on that
1:22:51fight or flight nervous system, and the
1:22:53rush of those chemicals
1:22:55causes us to become alert, to become
1:22:57aroused. And we narrow our focus
1:23:00on the material world. And so when
1:23:02you're not able to control everything in
1:23:04your life and you can't predict
1:23:05everything in your life,
1:23:06you start shifting your attention to
1:23:08everyone and everything, every person,
1:23:09every object, every place. We've all had
1:23:11that experience when we're under stress.
1:23:13And
1:23:14every one of those people, those
1:23:15objects, those things, those places has
1:23:17a neurological network in the brain. So
1:23:19like a lightning storm in the clouds,
1:23:21the brain begins to fire out of order,
1:23:23very incoherently. It becomes modulated
1:23:26or compartmentalized.
1:23:28It's a house divided against itself, and
1:23:30those individual compartments don't talk
1:23:32to the rest of the brain. And we tend to
1:23:34get overfocused. You never notice when
1:23:37you're under stress, you're obsessing
1:23:38about something, you're overfocusing
1:23:40about something, you're overthinking
1:23:41something, you're overanalyzing. You're
1:23:43driving your brain higher and higher
1:23:45into higher states of arousal, high beta
1:23:47brain wave patterns.
1:23:50We discovered that if you teach a person
1:23:51to go from a narrow focus on something
1:23:53physical, something material,
1:23:55and broaden their focus, open their
1:23:58awareness, and put their attention on
1:23:59space, on nothing,
1:24:01and create what's called a divergent
1:24:03focus,
1:24:04the act of sensing and no longer
1:24:06analyzing, thinking, begins to slow the
1:24:09brain waves down from that beta brain
1:24:12wave state to a low level beta, and then
1:24:14all of a sudden to alpha.
1:24:15If they keep doing it, sensing space
1:24:18tends to cause those different
1:24:20compartments that were modulated or
1:24:22divided to begin to synchronize.
1:24:25And what syncs in the brain actually
1:24:26links in the brain. So the brain starts
1:24:28firing in a more holistic state. In
1:24:30other words, every single area of the
1:24:32brain is resonating at the same
1:24:35frequency. And now the brain is
1:24:36functioning as one neurological network
1:24:39instead of individuals. That kind of
1:24:41holism, that kind of
1:24:43order feels really good. It feels really
1:24:46good.
1:24:47And so people practice slowing the brain
1:24:50waves down not only to get beyond the
1:24:51analytical mind,
1:24:53but to cause the brain to fire in a more
1:24:55coherent way. And if we're going to have
1:24:57a clear intention
1:24:59about what we want, the more coherent
1:25:00the brain, the clearer the intention. So
1:25:03we've seen in 7 days, even in 4 days,
1:25:06these dramatic changes in the levels of
1:25:09coherence and order that take place in
1:25:11the brain. The brain's firing in a more
1:25:13holistic state. That's when the person
1:25:15notices
1:25:16a change in their anxiety, in their
1:25:17depression, in their PS PTSD, whatever
1:25:20it is. There's more order in the brain.
1:25:22And and
1:25:23uh the act of focusing on nothing and
1:25:25opening your awareness to space
1:25:27creates that kind of amazing change. Did
1:25:30you set an intention this morning? I
1:25:31did.
1:25:33Can you tell me what it is? Ooh.
1:25:36Um I want to be relaxed and awake. I
1:25:38want to be present with everything that
1:25:39I do.
1:25:40Um I want to stay in my heart the entire
1:25:43day.
1:25:44And um I want to be inspired by, you
1:25:46know, the idea of helping people change.
1:25:50Do you struggle? I do. Yeah. What do you
1:25:52struggle with?
1:25:54Wow. Um I run a lot of different
1:25:58aspects of my company. I have
1:26:01uh events side. Uh we have a product
1:26:03side. We have corporate consulting. We
1:26:05have 250 corporate trainers.
1:26:08Uh we have a vitamin uh company uh
1:26:11called BioCentropy. We work with uh
1:26:13remote coherence healers uh that
1:26:16actually are we do research and they're
1:26:18remotely changing people's health. We
1:26:21have a huge research team with
1:26:22University of California, San Diego.
1:26:25Uh we have a lot of players on the team.
1:26:27We have um
1:26:28uh nonprofits.
1:26:30Uh
1:26:31What else we have? Um
1:26:33We have a Inner Health Coalition for
1:26:35physicians and and doctors and health
1:26:37care practitioners around the world that
1:26:39want to teach a different model. So I
1:26:40have a lot of different things that I
1:26:42have my hand in.
1:26:44Um
1:26:45And I think you know, I'm creative by
1:26:47nature.
1:26:48And I like to be creative. And sometimes
1:26:51I have a lot of obligations
1:26:53in terms of making decisions for 2026,
1:26:57uh decisions about things that I need to
1:26:58do,
1:26:59uh documentaries, whatever it is. And
1:27:02and I think I struggle with not having
1:27:05wanting more time for being creative.
1:27:08Uh and that's kind of the fun part of my
1:27:09job, whether
1:27:11I look at the data, I see the research,
1:27:13and then I go, "Oh my god, I want to do
1:27:14a meditation. Now I understand how to do
1:27:16this meditation or teach this better."
1:27:19All the information that we're gathering
1:27:21in our research is to teach
1:27:22transformation better. That's why I want
1:27:24to close the gap between knowledge and
1:27:25experience.
1:27:27So it's we have billions of data points,
1:27:30and it's a lot of time to look through
1:27:33all that and to learn about it. Uh but
1:27:35if I would if I would choose to do
1:27:37something, I would love to study the
1:27:39research more, love to
1:27:41uh do more teach um
1:27:43um
1:27:44create more meditations, you know, uh
1:27:46teach some more unique courses. Uh and
1:27:49so I I think I I think one of my
1:27:50challenges really is to is to be able to
1:27:54stay creative with everything I have
1:27:56going on in my life. I think everyone
1:27:58that's a high achiever
1:28:00always wishes they could pause time.
1:28:03I think um
1:28:05we're we're at such a level of growth
1:28:07right now to just
1:28:09uh
1:28:10uh globally.
1:28:12I mean, our events sell out in 10
1:28:13minutes, you know,
1:28:14uh 5, 10 minutes. And and we have a
1:28:17waiting list of
1:28:18sometimes 10,000 people. Well, that's a
1:28:20problem. You know, that's a
1:28:22And and I won't give up doing um live
1:28:24events, you know, I think it's I won't
1:28:27do it online. I think it's there's
1:28:29something special that happens
1:28:31uh in community.
1:28:33And so I've never met someone who is
1:28:37so mission driven and doing so well in
1:28:39this department that also
1:28:43isn't paying a personal cost
1:28:45for the mission in some regard or
1:28:47capacity.
1:28:48Well, I I think I've learned a few
1:28:49things over the years about that.
1:28:53And I think one of the great things,
1:28:55number one, is I have an amazing team. I
1:28:58mean, I'm nothing
1:28:59without my team.
1:29:01Uh and they're creatives, and they're
1:29:03cool, and they're
1:29:05emotionally intelligent, and they
1:29:07they're not nine-to-fivers. They share
1:29:09the same mission
1:29:10with me. They they see the same vision.
1:29:12They they do it for the same reason.
1:29:14Somehow they're part of that that change
1:29:16and transformation.
1:29:18Um
1:29:19So, my team um
1:29:21is able to allow me to do something
1:29:22really really unique and that is to
1:29:25focus on focus on what I love to do more
1:29:27than anything else. So, uh my team is
1:29:31super super huge help for me. So, I I I
1:29:33think that it's an important element.
1:29:35The other thing that I work on, I think
1:29:37every day of my life, is
1:29:40uh to be the example of everything that
1:29:41I teach. I I mean, that's important for
1:29:43me because
1:29:45uh uh
1:29:46I want to be I want to be in the game
1:29:48with everybody. So, when I see
1:29:50transformation, when I see miracles,
1:29:52when I see healings, when I see change,
1:29:54when I see
1:29:55poor people become rich, whatever that
1:29:57is,
1:29:58and I'm a part of that, I think it's
1:30:00really it humbles me. Yeah, it really
1:30:02makes me more humble in seeing what's
1:30:05possible for human beings. And And so, I
1:30:07never want this work to be about me. I
1:30:09want it to be about you. I want it to be
1:30:11I want to celebrate your story. Uh you
1:30:13know, I
1:30:15I want I want to I want to be there for
1:30:17that person when they open their eyes
1:30:18and were blind and they're seeing for
1:30:19the first time. I want to be right
1:30:21there.
1:30:21I want to be there. I want to remember
1:30:23that moment and the and and her joy.
1:30:26Um so,
1:30:29for me I I work on on being the example
1:30:32in every way that I can. And and and it
1:30:35sometimes it requires um
1:30:37a lot you know, extra time to do that.
1:30:39Yeah.
1:30:42What is What is the What is the um And
1:30:44then this is an interesting use of
1:30:46phrase cuz I'm saying the word cost as
1:30:47if as if as if it's a negative, but I
1:30:50just I think everyone that's leading a
1:30:52mission, whatever that might be, and
1:30:53they're really dedicated to that mission
1:30:55in the way that you are flying around
1:30:56the world,
1:30:57continuing to do it in person where most
1:30:59people you know, everyone knows you
1:31:00could just do it online and you'd
1:31:01probably make more money, to be honest.
1:31:03You know, there's people that just have
1:31:04moved online post-pandemic. You're
1:31:08you're giving a level of dedication and
1:31:09personal investment into this mission
1:31:12that must
1:31:13Well, I assume it must come at a
1:31:15personal cost to some degree.
1:31:18Um you make sacrifices. Um you have to
1:31:21sacrifice uh relationships at time, you
1:31:24know, sometimes you can't be where you
1:31:25want to be. Um
1:31:27but I think that the people in my life
1:31:29that love me understand my mission
1:31:32uh and and they respect that.
1:31:34Uh sometimes I'm on six different time
1:31:37zones in 4 weeks and and that's a lot
1:31:39for my body, you know, but
1:31:42um
1:31:43God, watching somebody on the stage just
1:31:45the other day tell the story of how she
1:31:48overcame trigeminal neuralgia in one
1:31:50moment in the event. She wanted someone
1:31:51to chop her head off. That's how much
1:31:53pain she had in her face for years.
1:31:55One moment. She said, "I have no pain.
1:31:58That's the first time I've not had pain
1:31:59in years."
1:32:01Uh to me, like
1:32:03that's worth all the lost luggage,
1:32:05the missed flights, uh
1:32:07uh the jet lag. That to me is worth more
1:32:10than all the gold in the world. I mean,
1:32:12I don't know. It's just so so uncommon
1:32:14and yet something in me didn't us
1:32:16wakes up. Something wakes up in us
1:32:19uh when we see that. We We We forgot.
1:32:22We forgot and somehow we remember. So,
1:32:26um you ask my staff, what is the
1:32:27greatest part of their job, they'll tell
1:32:29you being a part of transformation.
1:32:31Being a part of it.
1:32:32Being a part of that. So,
1:32:34there is a cost um
1:32:37always uh
1:32:39uh and at the same time I really I
1:32:41really work on
1:32:42uh figuring out ways to do things
1:32:44better. I mean,
1:32:45uh I think that's one of the things I
1:32:46love about myself is just learning
1:32:49learning from my experience, learning
1:32:51from my past, and the experience is the
1:32:53greatest professor. And And just saying,
1:32:55"Okay, if I had another opportunity, how
1:32:57could we do it differently? How could we
1:32:59serve better? You know, how can we make
1:33:01it easier? What can we do differently?"
1:33:03And And again, I just have a great team
1:33:05that's super committed to whether
1:33:07they're running events, whether they're
1:33:09creating logos, whether they're doing a
1:33:11brand, whether they're managing the
1:33:12website, whatever they're you know,
1:33:14running the composing music with me for
1:33:16meditations,
1:33:18uh or doing research. We just have a
1:33:20really people that share that same
1:33:22mission. And And I think um
1:33:25changing individuals one by one to
1:33:27somehow make a change in the world.
1:33:29Being a part of that's pretty cool.
1:33:31Was there a conscious moment in your
1:33:32life that sent you
1:33:34more so in this direction?
1:33:36Um sure. I I mean, I got run over by a
1:33:38truck in a triathlon in 1986 in Palm
1:33:41Springs,
1:33:43uh California. And um
1:33:46I broke six vertebrae in my spine. And I
1:33:48had uh bone fragments on my spinal cord
1:33:50and I had the neural arch of T8 uh
1:33:53compressing on the cord. So,
1:33:55uh typical
1:33:57uh
1:33:58prognosis for that, you know, is is uh
1:34:02Harrington rod surgery. They They put
1:34:03these long stainless steel rods in your
1:34:05spine. So, in my case, it would be from
1:34:07the base of my neck to the base of my
1:34:09spine. Stabilize the entire spine.
1:34:12And um
1:34:14I just had four opinions from four of
1:34:16the leading surgeons in Southern
1:34:17California and I was
1:34:19in my 20s and I just I just couldn't
1:34:22imagine myself living
1:34:24on you know, addictive medications or
1:34:26not being able to do
1:34:28whatever I love to do physically.
1:34:30So, I decided not to have the surgery. I
1:34:32just went against the the the opinions
1:34:34of
1:34:35the experts and I just thought maybe
1:34:37there's a way that my my mind could heal
1:34:39my body.
1:34:40And so, um
1:34:42that started my journey and it somehow
1:34:43it worked. So, I've been spending the
1:34:45rest of my life studying that.
1:34:47Had that not happened, do you think you
1:34:48would have gone in a in a different
1:34:50direction in life?
1:34:50Sure, absolutely.
1:34:52Absolutely. Yeah.
1:34:54What if the worst thing that happened to
1:34:55you was the best thing that happened to
1:34:56you?
1:34:57I don't know.
1:35:00And that starts this this you create
1:35:02this belief in your mind that you can
1:35:03heal yourself using your mind.
1:35:05Well, it was kind of crazy because um I
1:35:07think when you're faced with crisis,
1:35:09like I in the situation like this, we
1:35:12tend to focus on the worst thing that
1:35:13could happen instead of the best thing
1:35:14that could happen.
1:35:15And that's cuz of the hormones of stress
1:35:17and emergency. You always prepare for
1:35:19the worst. Better chances of survival if
1:35:21you think about the worst. So,
1:35:23it took an enormous amount of energy for
1:35:26me to stop that. To stop thinking that
1:35:29way and stop feeling that way. 6 and 1/2
1:35:31weeks of
1:35:32a dark night of the soul, I would say.
1:35:34Cuz I couldn't get my brain to do what I
1:35:36wanted it to do. Even though I
1:35:37theoretically and understood it, I just
1:35:40kept defaulting. And uh
1:35:42I spent hours and finally I was able to
1:35:45to kind of get control over it. And then
1:35:47as soon as I started noticing
1:35:49uh some changes in my body, that's when
1:35:51I That's when I just the moment I
1:35:53started feeling my limbs again, the
1:35:55moment I started noticing I was moving a
1:35:57little better,
1:35:59I knew somehow I was having an effect
1:36:01and that's that's the moment it all
1:36:02changed for me.
1:36:06Running all these businesses, Joe, and
1:36:08you have such an empire of businesses
1:36:10and projects and people and teams all
1:36:11over the world.
1:36:13How have you managed your relationship
1:36:15with technology? Cuz technology's
1:36:17omnipresent in my life. Yeah. And that's
1:36:19why I say I get dragged out of bed by
1:36:20it. Steven, I never planned on doing any
1:36:23of this. I never I never planned on
1:36:25doing any of this. I mean, all the
1:36:28corporate stuff just came out of a few
1:36:30lectures because
1:36:32there were CEOs and presidents of
1:36:33companies that urged me to create a
1:36:35model for change for companies and
1:36:37organizations. I never wanted to do
1:36:38that. I never wanted to do
1:36:41Inner Health Coalition with doctors.
1:36:42Just our community. There's an emergent
1:36:44consciousness that says, "Please do
1:36:46that." You know, so we're we're working
1:36:49on
1:36:50uh in the same vein of the same mission,
1:36:54giving people our community, listening
1:36:56to our community, and creating, you
1:36:58know, more of that for people. I don't
1:37:00have I don't have any difficulty if it's
1:37:03part of the mission to do any of those
1:37:05things. I think it's uh
1:37:08I think it
1:37:09if I were just doing my events,
1:37:12uh and and that's it. And we could just
1:37:14do that. My life would be
1:37:16a whole lot simpler. But all these other
1:37:19things that we're doing now in terms of
1:37:21They They also bear a lot of fruit. I
1:37:22mean, the research that we're doing
1:37:24right now is is
1:37:27I can say right now, Steven, that
1:37:30what we're doing is no longer
1:37:31pseudoscience. I can say that now. It's
1:37:33no longer pseudoscience.
1:37:35I can say that in 7 days,
1:37:38your body can make a
1:37:40pharmacy of chemicals that work better
1:37:42than any drug. I can tell you that one
1:37:44intervention
1:37:46called meditation can change a host of
1:37:47different health conditions. There's no
1:37:49drug that does that.
1:37:51So, if I weigh those
1:37:54all those different things that I have
1:37:55to
1:37:56evolve uh
1:37:58in some way against the effects it's
1:38:01producing, it's always for me worth the
1:38:02effort.
1:38:03Are you happy? Yeah. What does that
1:38:06mean?
1:38:07Um that I don't need anyone or anything
1:38:09to make me happy.
1:38:13That's your definition of happiness.
1:38:15I think yeah. I mean, if you have a kind
1:38:16of a freedom of expression without any
1:38:19real limitation in your in your
1:38:21comfortable with you and your and you
1:38:22love what you're doing and
1:38:25you feel good about it, and sure. I
1:38:26mean, I'm always in the river of change.
1:38:28I'm always looking for blind spots. I'm
1:38:29always working
1:38:31on evolving who I am. I always want to
1:38:33be I always want to evolve my
1:38:35experience. I always want to look to see
1:38:36if it serves me.
1:38:38Uh so,
1:38:39um
1:38:41Do you have sad days?
1:38:43I have I have days where I'm
1:38:44overwhelmed.
1:38:46By just just everything.
1:38:48And what's what are the symptoms of that
1:38:49overwhelm?
1:38:50Um it takes me a little bit to focus my
1:38:52attention again. Just too many things I
1:38:54have to think about. So, I have to
1:38:56take a little time and get get centered
1:38:58and organized.
1:39:00But do I have sad days? I don't know.
1:39:01Sad, I don't really
1:39:04know sad, but
1:39:05uh kind of uh days where I'm
1:39:08um
1:39:12kind of kind of introspective
1:39:14uh
1:39:16needing much emotion. Yeah, I I have
1:39:18those days. Yeah.
1:39:20If this were to be your last day on
1:39:21earth, Joe.
1:39:22Wow.
1:39:24And there was
1:39:26just a central message
1:39:28that the millions of people that could
1:39:30be listening right now
1:39:32you felt that they needed to hear.
1:39:34That would serve them the best and serve
1:39:36us collectively the best.
1:39:39What might that central message be?
1:39:41It's important for people to believe in
1:39:43themselves. I think it's
1:39:45really important for people to remember
1:39:47that they're the creators on some level.
1:39:49And they have a hand in creating in
1:39:51their life.
1:39:52And that
1:39:54uh
1:39:55possibility is something that they
1:39:58should always keep their mind open to. I
1:40:00think
1:40:01that we're greater than we think. We're
1:40:03more powerful than we know, more
1:40:04unlimited
1:40:05than we could ever dream.
1:40:09Do you realize how many people you've
1:40:10helped?
1:40:12Um gosh, I don't know. I don't know.
1:40:14Maybe.
1:40:17You must be moved by the feedback you
1:40:19get because I was reading through
1:40:21testimonials and messages and all the
1:40:23top comments and stuff and it's really
1:40:25really profound stuff.
1:40:27You know, and I it's hard to imagine a
1:40:29world where that
1:40:31that doesn't touch, you know.
1:40:33It it it
1:40:34Sit with you. For better or for worse,
1:40:35you know. You know, people stop me a lot
1:40:36of times and I'll be somewhere and
1:40:38they'll say, "Hey, I I know you hear
1:40:40this a lot but
1:40:41um you you really helped me or you
1:40:42really changed my life." And I always
1:40:44say to them, "I never I never get tired
1:40:46of of the story."
1:40:47Uh it's the feedback for me that uh
1:40:50uh inspires me to keep doing what I'm
1:40:52doing. So, I love the stories. I I love
1:40:55those I love to hear them and it uh it
1:40:58challenges many times my own belief
1:41:00about what's possible. So, um
1:41:03yeah, I think I I I'm I love to
1:41:06celebrate that with people. If this next
1:41:08chapter of your life is successful,
1:41:11if we sit here 10 years from now and you
1:41:12say, "Steve, that was a
1:41:14fantastic decade
1:41:16for you."
1:41:17What would have happened in that decade
1:41:18for you to say that? Gosh.
1:41:20Um we would publish a lot of papers that
1:41:23show um how powerful people really are.
1:41:26Um we would have our own research center
1:41:29where we could do even further studies
1:41:31on cancer, on uh all different chronic
1:41:34health conditions.
1:41:36Uh we we're studying the effects of
1:41:38healing on others and we have really
1:41:40profound data on that as well.
1:41:43Um
1:41:44I think that the conversation in in
1:41:47health care and medicine could change on
1:41:50some level. I mean, the conversations
1:41:53that I'm having with researchers and
1:41:55physicians are not the same
1:41:56conversations I was having just 2 years
1:41:58ago, especially when they look at our
1:42:00data, they they kind of fall out of
1:42:02their chair. I mean, it's
1:42:04I mean, as an example, a drug study
1:42:07is about 25% causality. One in four
1:42:09responds and it's usually
1:42:12you know,
1:42:1360 days, 90 days, a year before you see
1:42:15a change.
1:42:17Our data is between 75 and 85%
1:42:21causality. That means
1:42:22uh eight out of 10 people are getting a
1:42:24response and they're not taking
1:42:26anything, no exogenous substance. In
1:42:28other words,
1:42:30their their nervous system is producing
1:42:32a pharmacy of chemicals that works
1:42:33better than any drug, right? So, I think
1:42:36the conversation around emotional
1:42:39regulation
1:42:40and emotional health uh could change.
1:42:43That's something that I'm interested in.
1:42:46I think meditation could be something
1:42:47that is a a way of life for more people
1:42:50to
1:42:51to be healthier and to be happier and to
1:42:54be more whole.
1:42:55Uh
1:42:56I mean, when I started this journey,
1:42:58even you couldn't even say meditation in
1:43:00public. You couldn't even couldn't say
1:43:01it in certain organizations,
1:43:03corporations, government agencies. It
1:43:05was not allowed, right? Now it's sexy.
1:43:07Now it's cool, right?
1:43:09Um so,
1:43:11demystifying
1:43:14uh that process because there's so many
1:43:17colloquialisms and slangs and idioms
1:43:20that have to do with meditation.
1:43:22Demystifying that process, you know, we
1:43:23don't teach any traditional
1:43:26meditation. We don't teach anything
1:43:28that's based on culture or religion. We
1:43:30we teach meditation based on the data we
1:43:32see, based on the brain scans, based on
1:43:34the HRVs, based on the data that we're
1:43:36collecting. We know the we know the
1:43:38words now. We know the music. We know
1:43:40the timing. We know a lot of things
1:43:43uh
1:43:44in terms of transformation that has
1:43:45helped us
1:43:46in so many ways. So,
1:43:48What do you think's going to become sexy
1:43:50in 10 years from now that's not sexy
1:43:51now, like meditation?
1:43:52God, I hope it's not AI.
1:43:55I hope it's not I hope it's not AI. I
1:43:57hope it's
1:43:58uh something that has to do with hu- the
1:44:00human spirit.
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1:46:19Much of your work is now trying to bring
1:46:20bring people together in 3D.
1:46:23And I saw this um as I was on your
1:46:25website earlier on today. I was looking
1:46:27at some of your upcoming initiatives.
1:46:29One in particular was this walk that
1:46:31you're doing,
1:46:33which I found really really interesting.
1:46:35Um this is the first ever global walk
1:46:37that will take place on Saturday,
1:46:38September the 23rd, 2023
1:46:42this year.
1:46:43Um all the details are at
1:46:44walkforthe.world.
1:46:45So, www.walkforthe.world.
1:46:50And I was reading about why you're doing
1:46:52this. And the words community came up.
1:46:55The words illusion of separation came
1:46:57up.
1:46:57Yeah. I think, you know, if you study
1:47:00the peace gathering projects that have
1:47:02been done, peer-reviewed articles
1:47:04of peace gathering projects, when people
1:47:06come into a community, they meditate on
1:47:08peace, a city, the crime rates go down,
1:47:11violence goes down, car crashes, car
1:47:13accidents go down, economic growth goes
1:47:15up. Somehow there's a change in the in
1:47:18the collective.
1:47:19But when the meditation ends and the
1:47:22peace gathering project ends, the crime
1:47:24rate returns back to the same that you
1:47:26know, the car accidents and the violence
1:47:28return back to the same ceiling value as
1:47:30it was before.
1:47:33It's not enough to just
1:47:35uh pray. It's time to be the prayer,
1:47:37right? So, walking meditation we do in
1:47:40our community and we do a lot of them
1:47:41because you got to be able to walk as
1:47:43it. You got to be able to do it with
1:47:44your eyes open. Doing it with your eyes
1:47:46closed is a practice so you can do it
1:47:48with your eyes open so you can
1:47:48demonstrate it. Demonstrate peace.
1:47:50Demonstrate love. Demonstrate um
1:47:53change for the world.
1:47:55And so, uh the walking meditation is
1:47:57four types of meditations. There's
1:47:59seated meditation. We do a lot of that
1:48:01and that's traditional.
1:48:02There's a standing and a walking
1:48:04meditation and there's a lying down
1:48:05meditation and we teach all of those.
1:48:07But the standing and walking meditation
1:48:08is a great way to stand up for the
1:48:10world.
1:48:12And decide if I change and enough of us
1:48:14change, we could actually change the
1:48:16world. So,
1:48:17the meditation starts with our eyes
1:48:19closed, standing up with our eyes closed
1:48:21and getting into an altered state.
1:48:23Music changes, we open our eyes and we
1:48:25walk as that change. We embody that
1:48:27change. We live that change. We think
1:48:29about what we're going to leave behind
1:48:31for a new world. What what what if I
1:48:33change? What would be Could I Am I part
1:48:36of the whole? Could I affect the whole?
1:48:38And so, person walks for a period of
1:48:40time, they stop again, they close their
1:48:42eyes, they recalibrate, they get back in
1:48:44that feeling, they open their eyes and
1:48:45they walk again. And so,
1:48:47walking meditation is a great way for
1:48:49uh thousands and thousands of people
1:48:51from around the world to walk for change
1:48:54in the world. And and and
1:48:57we have such compelling data about
1:48:59collective networks of observers with
1:49:01brain and heart coherence that somehow
1:49:04when you have a random event generator
1:49:05in our
1:49:07in our ballrooms.
1:49:08And people
1:49:10change their state and they have an
1:49:11intention.
1:49:14That random events become less random
1:49:15and more intentional. In other words,
1:49:17a machine that's programmed to
1:49:20toss a coin a thousand times a second,
1:49:23multiple times a second.
1:49:24The more you toss a coin, the more
1:49:26you're going to get 50/50, right? So, if
1:49:28you if you have a machine in the room
1:49:30and and nobody's in the room, you see
1:49:32just kind of this line stay right around
1:49:33the 50/50 mark. But, when you fill that
1:49:35room with people
1:49:37and they change their state and they
1:49:38have an intention, all of a sudden you
1:49:40see that line break way out of normal.
1:49:42And a programmed machine that's normally
1:49:45flipping zeros and ones starts behaving
1:49:47very differently. It tells us that
1:49:49collective networks begin to determine
1:49:51reality. And it's not the number of
1:49:53people, it's not the amount of energy.
1:49:55You got to have entropic energy. It's
1:49:56the most most coherent group of people.
1:49:59So, if we come together on one day, and
1:50:02this will be one of many walks,
1:50:05you leave everything behind.
1:50:08Bring your family, bring your friends,
1:50:10bring your coworkers, bring your
1:50:11neighbors. You never have to have done a
1:50:13meditation before. We'll We'll guide
1:50:16people through it.
1:50:18Uh we'll give them the MP3 file.
1:50:20And um we have just over 800 or 900
1:50:25cities now from around the world uh that
1:50:28are have from people from around the
1:50:29world that are participating. And the
1:50:31numbers are growing. So, we don't know
1:50:33where it'll go, but it's our first uh
1:50:35attempt to just say if we just can move
1:50:37the needle 1°,
1:50:40and off that trajectory, off that
1:50:42timeline, just in another timeline,
1:50:44uh then it served its purpose. So, so um
1:50:47yeah, we're excited about it. It's the
1:50:48first one, and hopefully we'll do uh
1:50:50some more. I'll put all the details
1:50:52below, wherever you're listening to
1:50:53this, so you can check it out. Is it I
1:50:55was wondering as you were speaking, Joe,
1:50:56I was asking myself,
1:50:58you're someone that's constantly doing
1:50:59research and developing new ideas and
1:51:01hypotheses about the world and the way
1:51:03humans are and the way the universe is.
1:51:05Do there exist beliefs in your head
1:51:08that you're too scared to share?
1:51:11You mean beliefs that I have that that
1:51:14are from experience?
1:51:16Or beliefs that I have that I'm that are
1:51:18conjecturous?
1:51:20Either.
1:51:21Both.
1:51:22Yeah, I I I have a very strong belief
1:51:24that that um
1:51:26the probability of us seeing the truth
1:51:28in reality is zero.
1:51:30I think that we perceive less than 1% of
1:51:33reality. The
1:51:35brain is missing out on a lot of data.
1:51:39And I think that we should never exclude
1:51:41ourselves
1:51:43from the unknown. You know, I think
1:51:44there's a whole part of the unknown self
1:51:46that that we're unaware of that that I
1:51:48that I think exists beyond linear uh
1:51:51time and space.
1:51:53And I and I do believe that that it's
1:51:55real. And you don't know what that is?
1:51:58Oh, I do, yeah. Yeah, I think it's a
1:52:00realm beyond space and time that that I
1:52:02think
1:52:03uh you know, your eye right now is
1:52:06perceiving a very small spectrum of
1:52:08frequency. The visible light is a very
1:52:11tiny slice in the electromagnetic uh
1:52:14spectrum.
1:52:15And that visible light, red, orange,
1:52:17yellow, uh blue, green, indigo, violet,
1:52:20is is actually
1:52:22uh bouncing off of the slowest and most
1:52:24stable form of energy called matter. And
1:52:27that gives us this perception of
1:52:29separation, right?
1:52:31Well, that small spectrum is less than
1:52:331% of what we actually can perceive. So,
1:52:36I think that our senses plug us into
1:52:39reality, into three-dimensional reality,
1:52:41but I think there are realities that
1:52:43exist beyond space and time that we're
1:52:46unaware of.
1:52:47That we can tap into? Yeah. Yeah, I do.
1:52:49And I think there are latent systems in
1:52:51the brain
1:52:52that once activated allows the brain to
1:52:55transduce that energy, that frequency
1:52:57into profound uh information. Do
1:53:00psychedelics drug drugs work in in that
1:53:03in that way? I think psychedelics uh
1:53:05give a person a perception of reality
1:53:08that's beyond three-dimensional reality.
1:53:11We're discovering that the
1:53:13nervous system makes its own pharmacy
1:53:15of psychedelics. In fact, we have really
1:53:19recent data that shows that
1:53:21um
1:53:22many people that have a mystical
1:53:23experience in our work that have fMRIs
1:53:27uh look like they're on psilocybin.
1:53:29Mhm.
1:53:30Yeah.
1:53:31And yet your nervous system's making
1:53:33that that that uh
1:53:35natural chemical
1:53:37endogenously.
1:53:40And how are those mystical ex-
1:53:41experiences triggered? I'll give you the
1:53:44short version. Mhm.
1:53:45Um
1:53:46there's a tiny little gland in the back
1:53:48of your brain called the pineal gland.
1:53:50And the pineal gland has tiny little
1:53:52crystals inside of it that are stacked
1:53:54up on top of each other, rhombohedron in
1:53:56shape.
1:53:57And that little tiny uh gland acts like
1:54:00a radio receiver for electromagnetic
1:54:02frequencies. And when those crystals
1:54:05become
1:54:06can become activated, uh like a radio
1:54:09receiver, they can pick up frequencies
1:54:12that are beyond your senses, the
1:54:13quantum.
1:54:14And they can transduce It's called a
1:54:16transducer. It can transduce that
1:54:18frequency, like a TV antenna,
1:54:21into profound imagery.
1:54:23A very full-on sensory experience
1:54:25without your senses.
1:54:27Interesting.
1:54:29Explains a lot.
1:54:32Explains a lot. My girlfriend always
1:54:33talks to me about the pineal gland and
1:54:34DMT and
1:54:36you know, and the power of everything
1:54:37you've just described.
1:54:41I just want to remain open-minded
1:54:43because being closed-minded at any point
1:54:46in my life is not conducive with
1:54:48progress and growth.
1:54:50So, my my um desire in doing this
1:54:53podcast generally is just to learn from
1:54:55people that have new perspectives on the
1:54:57nature of the world and to remain
1:55:01humble in the fact that I know very
1:55:02little.
1:55:04So, what you said at the end there about
1:55:05us knowing almost knowing zero about the
1:55:07nature of true reality, whatever that
1:55:08might mean,
1:55:09I do believe.
1:55:11I do believe that I know very little
1:55:12about the true nature of reality, and my
1:55:13senses have deceived me, whether it's in
1:55:15psychedelic states or other states. So,
1:55:17I'm very aware how the fragility of this
1:55:19experience or
1:55:21you know, whether truth is what I think
1:55:22it is.
1:55:24Yeah. Well, um
1:55:26I think it only takes one mystical
1:55:28moment, one transcendental moment, uh
1:55:30for us to realize that um
1:55:32we're missing out on a little bit of
1:55:34reality.
1:55:36We have a closing tradition on this
1:55:37podcast where the last guest leaves a
1:55:38question for the next guest without
1:55:40knowing who they're leaving a question
1:55:42for.
1:55:44If you were made
1:55:45president
1:55:46Oh, boy. of this country
1:55:49and you had to implement laws that would
1:55:51make our lives better,
1:55:54Wow.
1:55:55what would you do and why?
1:56:02Wow, where do we start?
1:56:08Oh, boy. Um
1:56:11well, um
1:56:13I would consider education uh to be a
1:56:16much bigger priority
1:56:17for
1:56:18uh both people that teach,
1:56:21uh that they're rewarded in a in a
1:56:23better way, and the educational system
1:56:26to be uh
1:56:27more Socratic and more stimulating for
1:56:30uh people to question and and and to
1:56:33have healthy debates, I think.
1:56:35That's great. Um
1:56:37I would consider looking at the medical
1:56:39model a little bit more and really look
1:56:41to see if health care is really
1:56:43uh
1:56:44helping people in this country. Uh uh
1:56:47I would find ways to
1:56:49uh
1:56:50unify
1:56:52uh
1:56:53uh different
1:56:55uh
1:56:55sex or or different uh
1:56:58uh organizations or bring them together,
1:57:01bring them to the middle in some way. I
1:57:02I I think
1:57:05uh
1:57:06standing up for principles
1:57:08uh instead of politics is is a really
1:57:11healthy thing to do.
1:57:13Uh I'd probably try to figure out a way
1:57:16to reduce the debt,
1:57:18to end war, uh to find ways that we
1:57:20could coexist with other countries. Um
1:57:24I'd certainly think a lot about uh
1:57:25artificial intelligence and decide if it
1:57:27was uh really really healthy for human
1:57:30beings.
1:57:32Um
1:57:33I I would uh encourage in many ways uh
1:57:37different religions to come together and
1:57:38and find ways to to um to get along.
1:57:42Um
1:57:44I would
1:57:45spend a lot of time with regenerative
1:57:46agriculture and bringing life back to
1:57:49the soil and back to the earth
1:57:51uh
1:57:52and figure out ways to help the
1:57:55the oceans and species that are passing
1:57:59uh and and to address uh healthy food.
1:58:02Uh food that is good for people that
1:58:04that is medicine for people.
1:58:06Joe, thank you for your work, and thank
1:58:08you on behalf of all the people, the
1:58:09millions of people who are all around
1:58:10the world that you're clearly helping
1:58:12without really even knowing it. Um
1:58:15I've never seen such profound
1:58:16testimonials in any, you know, in
1:58:18anything I've ever seen. And also, the
1:58:20reason why I actually have this on the
1:58:21table isn't because you asked to promote
1:58:23me. I think your team actually said I
1:58:24didn't need to put it on the table, but
1:58:25it's because one of our members of our
1:58:27team um
1:58:28their elderly relative has been going
1:58:30through a lot of a lot of pain and
1:58:32struggle in their lives.
1:58:33Um and they read your book and it really
1:58:36really helped them this week. Ah, that's
1:58:37great.
1:58:38So, they asked if they could you could
1:58:39get if I could get it signed on behalf
1:58:40of them.
1:58:41Absolutely. Which I think is a testament
1:58:43to
1:58:44to the impact you're having on people.
1:58:45So, thank you so much, Joe. It's an
1:58:47honor. No, thank you, Steven, for all
1:58:48the work you do, also. I appreciate it.
1:58:53It's funny, every year around this time
1:58:55of year, for whatever reason, I go on a
1:58:56little bit of a psychological shift. And
1:58:58that psychological shift, I think, is
1:58:59somewhat inspired by summer, but it's
1:59:01also inspired by the fact that I want to
1:59:05feel strong in this season of life. And
1:59:07as I age, strength training is my number
1:59:09one form of training. And the question
1:59:10becomes, how do you build muscle and how
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