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0:00We cannot attract anything in our life
0:02that we feel separate from. The moment
0:04you feel the lack and the separation,
0:06you're holding yourself hostage to the
0:08past.
0:09Best-selling author, he's lectured and
0:11given advanced workshops in more than 30
0:13countries.
0:13Dr. Joe Dispenza. How do I want to be?
0:16This is about conditioning my body
0:17emotionally into the future. As long as
0:20I'm feeling this emotion, I'm going to
0:21believe in that future. What is blocking
0:24us from manifesting love?
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1:27Jay Shetty. Jay Shetty. The one, the
1:30only Jay Shetty.
1:33What is blocking us from manifesting
1:36love? I really think that the majority
1:39of people spend most of their time in a
1:42state of readiness in their life.
1:44They're always ready for whatever is
1:46going to take place.
1:48And it's like an idle. So, the hormones
1:51that are associated with getting up and
1:54going and reacting stressfully,
1:58those hormones are hormones that create
2:00a primitive mechanism as where we go
2:02into survival, right?
2:04And living in stress and living in
2:05survival is not a time for us to open
2:08our hearts, right? So,
2:10get bruised, get damaged, get injured in
2:13your life,
2:14the stronger the emotion you feel
2:16towards that event in your life, the
2:18more altered you feel from that
2:20experience.
2:21Uh the brain freezes a frame and takes a
2:23snapshot, and that's called the
2:24long-term memory.
2:26So, people
2:27think about the problems that happened
2:29in the past, and they produce the same
2:31chemistry
2:33in their brain and body as if the event
2:34was happening. So,
2:36what happens is the body gets
2:38conditioned emotionally uh into the
2:40past. So,
2:42now the trauma or the the the betrayal
2:44is not just in the brain now, it's in
2:46the body. So, the body in a sense gets
2:48programmed or conditioned to stay in
2:50survival.
2:52And when you're in survival, it's not a
2:53time to be vulnerable, and it's not a
2:55time to open our hearts, it's not a time
2:57to create.
2:59It's in a state of arousal where we have
3:01to keep our attention on things that
3:04matter, the
3:05the things in our environment, the way
3:07our body is feeling, and how we're
3:09managing ourselves,
3:10and in time in and of itself. So, to
3:13change is to be greater than your body,
3:15to be greater than your environment, and
3:17to be greater than time. And so, when
3:19we're stressed, it's really hard to
3:22change. Uh when we're stressed, it's
3:23really not a time to change, it's not a
3:25time to create, and it's not a time to
3:27learn.
3:28So then, this is a mechanism that's
3:30primitive in our biology.
3:32And to be able to
3:35tame the animal so that it the animal
3:37self, so it's no longer in a state of
3:40readiness trying to always predict the
3:43worst-case scenario just so you could be
3:46ready if it happens.
3:49Turns out that that's that's the
3:51conversion of those survival states into
3:56a state of creation. We've discovered
3:58some really important things about it.
4:00And if you teach people
4:02how to convert from that sympathetic
4:05nervous system to the parasympathetic
4:06nervous system, if you teach them how to
4:09trade resentment
4:11and impatience and frustration,
4:14justified or not, that's doing no good
4:16for you,
4:18for an elevated emotion and practice uh
4:22actually practice making the chemistry
4:25that is associated with love. And in the
4:27beginning, it's difficult. And so,
4:30if you place your attention on your
4:31heart, we discovered that there's a very
4:34low frequency that you can measure that
4:36actually goes up that's indigenous
4:39to what the heart needs in terms of a
4:40life force to beat. So,
4:43where you place your attention is where
4:44you place your energy. And
4:46of all the things you can place your
4:47attention on, place it on your heart.
4:50Now, slow your breathing down. And if
4:52you can slow your breathing down,
4:54you can take your body out of that state
4:57of readiness. And when you slow your
4:58breathing down,
4:59you slow your brain waves down and your
5:01body starts move out of that state of
5:03sympathetic arousal.
5:05Practice feeling elevated emotions with
5:08your heart, kindness, care, love, uh
5:11appreciation, gratitude,
5:13and you'll get good at feeling that way
5:15if you keep doing it.
5:17So, then
5:19when a person's in that state, the heart
5:21in and of itself, when it's activated
5:22like that, gets super organized. It gets
5:25coherent and it sends a signal to the
5:28brain,
5:29literally in the form of information to
5:31tell the brain, the survival system, to
5:34shut down. That the amygdala, literally,
5:36the lights go out. It resets to the
5:37baseline
5:39for the trauma in the brain, and the
5:41body moves out of survival.
5:43And now it wants to create. And the
5:44heart informs the brain to get creative.
5:46and the brain goes into these beautiful
5:49organized alpha brainwave patterns. In
5:51in alpha, we tend to imagine, we tend to
5:53create, we tend to dream. So, the heart
5:56informs the brain it's time to create.
5:59That's I think when we're in that state
6:00of inspiration where
6:02we're actually falling in love with what
6:04we're creating, we're bonding to that
6:07creation. The stronger the emotion we
6:08feel,
6:10the more we remember that future. And I
6:12think that's how people really begin to
6:14make those changes. Now,
6:16Now, getting there is a daily practice.
6:20Getting there is something that you have
6:21to keep doing. So, the block for us to
6:24feel love is that if we're living in
6:27survival,
6:28you have to make up your mind that that
6:31that state
6:33is not a state to create in and break
6:35away from the people in your life and
6:37your, you know, your schedule and your
6:39phone and all the obligations you have
6:41long enough to reset.
6:43Just for a little period of time and to
6:45remember. Yeah.
6:47you don't forget. I think that's where
6:48it becomes super valuable. Yeah, I think
6:51you hit on a really important nerve
6:52there, this idea that we're living in a
6:54constant state of stress.
6:56And when I think about our community who
6:58are thinking about dating, and I think
7:00about friends in my life that are trying
7:01to find romantic love especially in
7:04their life. And their feeling around
7:07dating, mentally, physically,
7:09emotionally is stressful.
7:11The idea of dating is stressful. The
7:14idea of being on a date is stressful.
7:16The idea of talking to someone is
7:18stressful. And it's so interesting,
7:20you're so right that how are you going
7:22to create when all of your emotions
7:24around this is stress? You've got the
7:25stress of a timeline. Gosh, I'm in my
7:27mid-30s, I should have found someone by
7:29now, is things I hear. Oh, I'm in the
7:31stress of I've been out on seven dates
7:34in the last couple of months and none of
7:37them were good enough. And so, I'm in
7:39the stress of scarcity. And so, you're
7:40so right, that's what feeling. How do we
7:44get out of that system and that cycle?
7:47Because a lot of the time we've
7:48developed that feeling towards finding
7:51romantic love for like weeks, months,
7:53years.
7:54Yeah.
7:55you break that cycle?
7:57There's nothing wrong with doing any of
7:59those things.
8:01But when we're stressed, we're altered.
8:04That stress is when we're out of
8:05balance, we're not ourselves, right?
8:07We we can't relax and be authentic. And
8:11so
8:12typically it usually takes a crisis
8:16or a disease or a diagnosis or a trauma
8:19or a loss or a betrayal
8:21uh for a person to really decide is this
8:24really who I want to continue to be. So
8:27my message is why wait for that, right?
8:29So so
8:31there's nothing wrong with saying I want
8:32to be in a relationship. I want the
8:35following things in a relationship uh
8:37from this person or what what might what
8:40might be my ideal relationship. How I
8:44How detailed should you get on something
8:45like that? Like should you be talking
8:47about physical things or is it mainly
8:48emotional and connectedness? Like I
8:50think people have an image in their mind
8:53of what they like or what their
8:56type is or whatever. There I don't think
8:57there's anything wrong with that.
9:00But I think what people are really
9:01looking for is connection and and and
9:05and joy. Like people should be in a
9:07relationship. The reason they should be
9:09in a relationship
9:10is to be overjoyed to be with a person
9:12that you're with, right? You want joy in
9:14your life.
9:15For me it would make sense then if the
9:17person got very clear on what they
9:19wanted.
9:20Uh then they should start on the journey
9:22to become that very person.
9:25They should really work on being that
9:27very person that they want. So there
9:29would have to be
9:31some change that they would have to make
9:34in order to be worthy enough to create a
9:36person that they would attract in their
9:38life and we cannot
9:40attract anything in our life that we
9:42feel separate from.
9:44Trusting
9:45in a future that you can't see or
9:47experience, you have to lay down the
9:49very thing you used your whole life to
9:50get what you want
9:52to trust that something greater could
9:54happen and that's not something that's
9:55very easy. So, I like the idea that it
9:58that it wouldn't happen
10:00uh in a in an um
10:03on a date that was from a app. It could
10:06happen in a bank, it could happen at a
10:08seminar, it could happen in the grocery
10:10store, you know, all in a way that you
10:13least expect, right? And I think that
10:16when we get to a point where we're so
10:18happy with ourselves, we're no longer
10:21looking
10:22uh cuz we feel like we already have it.
10:24I think
10:25that's the state where um
10:28people attract an equal. Mhm.
10:30Getting to that place feels like a
10:32challenge for people because
10:34it feels like I'm doing this so that I
10:36can get someone. Yeah.
10:37Right? It's always like connected that
10:39way as a Well, well, we're conditioned
10:41that way. We're conditioned in a way to
10:43like okay, I need something out there. I
10:46need the experience, the proof. I need
10:48the event to occur
10:50and the end product of that event or
10:52experience is called an emotion. The
10:54emotion takes away the lack or
10:55separation
10:57from not having it. So, we're waiting
10:59for the event to occur to take away the
11:02the feeling of separation or lack. And
11:04actually, that's not that's not the
11:06healthiest way to create and act
11:08actually, we should feel the emotion
11:11of the experience before it happens
11:14so that if you're feeling the emotion of
11:16that future before it happens, truly
11:18feeling it, you wouldn't be looking for
11:20it. You would only be looking for it
11:22when you felt separate from it, right?
11:24So, can you maintain that state because
11:27the only way you're going to believe
11:30in that future is you have to feel the
11:32emotion associated with it.
11:34So good. The moment you feel the lack
11:36and the separation, you're going to
11:37believe in the past. And there's a story
11:39that goes along with the past that has
11:42everything to do with the dating is hard
11:43or finding a person or whatever that is.
11:45The story that we tell ourselves that we
11:48actually accept, believe, and surrender
11:50to as if it's the truth, right? So,
11:53that's a exactly what programs the
11:54subconscious mind in into a belief,
11:57right?
11:58So,
12:00the default
12:02is so seamless
12:04to lose that vision or that belief in
12:08the future the moment we start feeling
12:10the emotions of lack or survival in the
12:12past, right? That's the moment we can't
12:14see that future any longer
12:16because we would be looking at that
12:18future for the through the lens of the
12:19past, and we would doubt that that
12:22future could actually exist. So, it's
12:24really an interesting thing that I
12:26learned just in the last um few years.
12:30Because I interview
12:31hundreds of people backstage that
12:34have had a dramatic change in their
12:37health.
12:38I'm talking about significant chronic
12:41diseases where they have no blood values
12:44that are abnormal, have no scans that
12:46show any signs of the disease any
12:48longer.
12:49And and I ask them like,
12:52"How did you do that? Like, what what
12:53did you do?"
12:55And some of them say like, "I was doing
12:57my meditation sometimes three times a
12:59day uh because the drugs weren't work
13:04working, the chemo wasn't working, the
13:06the drug trials weren't working, the
13:07surgeries weren't working, the radiation
13:08wasn't working,
13:10the diet wasn't working, nothing was
13:12working, right?"
13:13And so, the only thing that they were
13:14left with was the belief in themselves.
13:18And when you believe in yourself, you
13:19got to believe in possibility.
13:21And when you believe in possibility, you
13:22have to believe in yourself. So,
13:24they were doing their meditations three
13:26times a day because they lost their
13:29belief that they could heal. They lost
13:32their belief.
13:33And so they were doing their meditation
13:35again to change their emotional state so
13:38that they could believe in that future
13:40again instead of believe in their past.
13:42If you keep doing that, it's that
13:44thought and that feeling is that image,
13:46that's emotion, that stimulus and
13:48response that's conditioning the body
13:50emotionally into the future.
13:52And and that's really how you change a
13:54belief. So the people were doing the
13:55work
13:57to change their belief because they
13:58defaulted back to the self-doubt and you
14:01know, that that that of course is
14:03disbelief and that's chronic, right? So
14:07So then how many times do we have to do
14:08that until we stop doing that and start
14:11doing something else? I think that's
14:13when our reality begins to change. We
14:15have a lot of beliefs about things that
14:17we're not even conscious of. And they've
14:19not been tested, we don't know if
14:21they're true.
14:22You don't know if they're true. We've
14:23actually in fact made them up.
14:25when someone's been catfished, when
14:27they've been heartbroken, when they've
14:29been cheated on? The stronger the
14:31emotion you feel
14:32from some event in your life, the more
14:34altered you are inside of you, the more
14:36you remember the event. You're holding
14:38yourself hostage to the past. What's
14:42the challenge when someone's
14:44lost their belief because they've had a
14:46heartbreak? Let's say what happens when
14:48someone's been catfished, when they've
14:50been betrayed, when they've been
14:52heartbroken, when they've been cheated
14:54on,
14:55when they've been lied to, manipulated,
14:58gaslit, like they've had a moment that
15:01has
15:02made them lose belief because they've
15:04been hurt and broken so many times in
15:06love. Yeah. And now, you're right, on a
15:09belief level, they don't believe they're
15:11lovable, they don't believe love exists
15:14for them, they don't believe good people
15:16exist, right? These are all beliefs. And
15:18so, what do you do when you've actually
15:21gone through quite a you could call it a
15:23traumatic toxic event or experience that
15:26someone's been through.
15:28Yeah, I think everybody's had those. I
15:30think once again, the stronger the
15:32emotion you feel from some event in your
15:34life, the more altered you are inside of
15:36you, the more you remember the event.
15:38The brain actually freezes that frame,
15:40right?
15:41So, the person thinks neurologically
15:44within the circuitry of that experience.
15:47And they feel chemically within the
15:48boundaries of that emotion. And And
15:51how we think and how we feel becomes our
15:53state of being. So, every time they
15:54remember the event,
15:57they're producing that same chemistry,
15:59as I said, over and over again. And
16:00you're conditioning the body into a
16:02belief, right? And the moment we draw
16:05conclusion
16:07about that experience, that's the
16:09belief, right? That becomes the belief
16:11that we accept to believe and surrender
16:14to.
16:15So, then beliefs are subconscious states
16:19of being, right? So,
16:21And And it tends to be 95% of who we are
16:24by the time we get to the middle of our
16:26life. So, it's those subconscious
16:28beliefs that really run our life and run
16:31our reality. So,
16:33it would make sense, then, to the
16:34person, unless I can heal
16:37from the experience
16:39and overcome the emotion, because the
16:42memory without the emotional charge is
16:44called wisdom, and you never have to do
16:46it again cuz you know now that that you
16:49know.
16:51If that's the truth, then, then, okay,
16:53I'll do this for a period of time, but
16:57this state is not loving to me.
17:00Living in this state is not loving to
17:03me. What's loving to me is that I
17:05actually overcome the emotion of the
17:07past. And when I overcome the emotion of
17:09the past,
17:11now the body's no longer believing in
17:13that any longer, right? So, that's
17:15theoretically is easier said than done.
17:20So, the survival emotions tend to become
17:22very addictive.
17:24Um so, the rush of just remembering the
17:27event
17:29um is an arousal for the body and people
17:32become very addicted to to their
17:34beliefs, right? And so,
17:36but if you tell the person like, "Okay,
17:38your subconscious mind is going to keep
17:40replaying the same experience in your
17:42life unless you heal." Okay, that could
17:45make sense to certain people.
17:47If you If you can't overcome that
17:49emotion, then you'll never be able to
17:51open your heart.
17:53So, do you want love in your life or
17:54not? Okay, so okay, forgiveness then,
17:57and we've discovered this.
17:59Forgiveness is when you overcome the
18:01emotion of your past and you no longer
18:04have your attention on that person or
18:06that experience any longer, right? And
18:08so, you feel so good
18:11that you
18:12that you no longer want to feel bad,
18:14right? And so, you free yourself
18:17from that belief and you free that
18:18person as well or the experience.
18:21And literally, that's that's energy
18:24that's liberated as information that the
18:27body can actually use to create with,
18:29right? So, I think there's information
18:32and knowledge that just has to be given
18:34to people for them to understand, okay,
18:36uh justified or not.
18:39Uh you know, valid or not.
18:42The only person that this really is
18:43affecting is me. They They went on with
18:46their life. They They're They're you
18:48know, they started a new career. They're
18:50They're living in a new place. They're
18:51writing a book, you know, they're
18:53they're on their way and you're holding
18:56yourself hostage to the past, right? So,
18:59then you got to trust that love is
19:01available or love is real in in in in
19:04order for you to create someone in your
19:06life that is loving,
19:08um you would have to be worthy of love
19:10and that means you would have to feel
19:11love, too. So,
19:13I think people make their way out of
19:14this all the time, and we we deal with
19:16with severe PTSD, you know, with with
19:19veterans.
19:21And those are the There's some pretty
19:22brutal memories there, and there's a lot
19:25of trauma that's stored in the body as
19:27well.
19:28And and they deal with a lot of
19:29difficulties.
19:31And when you tell them,
19:34it's the heart that resets the baseline
19:36for the trauma in the brain. All you
19:37have to do is have the courage to open
19:39that thing again.
19:41And they may come up against themselves
19:42for a few days, but once it happens,
19:46uh and they understand the process,
19:49their past is wisdom. They don't have to
19:50ever go back there again, right? They
19:52they they understand it all,
19:54but there's no charge associated with it
19:57any longer. And that's when we belong to
19:58the future, right? That's when the
20:00synchronicities and the coincidences and
20:03the miracles and the opportunities begin
20:05to show up in our life that prove to us
20:07that we are the creators of our life.
20:09What's the anatomy of belief?
20:11Because I feel like we know that beliefs
20:14are repeated patterns, they're repeated
20:17conditioned ideas, they've they're so
20:20hardwired.
20:21And if we were to start picking up Is it
20:23that we're picking apart our beliefs or
20:25we're purifying them or we're renewing
20:27them? Like, what's what's the process?
20:30So, I believe
20:33that all beliefs are created from past
20:35experiences.
20:37And a belief is just a thought you keep
20:41thinking over and over again
20:42Yes. until you hardwired in your brain.
20:45And a hardwired set of circuits
20:47is an automatic
20:49unconscious program. So, we have a lot
20:51of beliefs about things
20:54that we're not even conscious of. And
20:56they've not been tested, we don't know
20:58if they're true.
20:59You don't know if they're true. We've
21:00actually, in fact, made them up.
21:01Yeah.
21:02And this happens quite a bit in the work
21:04that we do.
21:05People see the testimonials, they see
21:07the science, they see the data.
21:09And they say, "Oh my god, I actually
21:11believe
21:13that this this stuff works."
21:15And they're facing a chronic health
21:17condition or serious health condition,
21:18and they they come to the realization
21:21that they just became conscious that
21:24they
21:25didn't believe it would work for them.
21:27It would work for It looks like it
21:28works, but I never thought it could work
21:30for me. Now, this is a This is a big
21:31moment because this is the moment where
21:34you're stepping out of the bleachers
21:35onto the playing field, right? This is
21:37now where you got to show up for
21:38yourself, right?
21:40The person, when they sit down, and they
21:42decide to make a different choice, and
21:44this is the hardest part about change.
21:46The moment you decide to make a
21:48different choice, you're going to feel
21:49uncomfortable. You're going to leave the
21:51familiar known, right? And the body,
21:53which has been conditioned into the
21:54past, into the known, which has been
21:56conditioned to be the mind, the
21:57servant's the master, and it's going to
21:59try to talk you out
22:02of that future that is unfamiliar,
22:04unknown, or unpredictable.
22:07And so, that's that
22:08that's the moment where the beliefs
22:10start coming up, you know, you're not
22:11good enough, it's This is too hard,
22:14you'll never change, you can't create
22:16anything, it's this person's fault,
22:19there's something wrong with me,
22:21I want to quit.
22:23And then people say, like, "Oh, well, I
22:25I I have ADD, you know, I can't focus my
22:28mind."
22:29And it turns out they say, "I'm not a
22:30good meditator, or I don't I don't um
22:34I can't control my mind and in and um
22:38meditation's not for me."
22:40But really, I'm doing it wrong, they'll
22:41say. But in in fact, they're actually
22:43doing it right.
22:44Because sitting with yourself and
22:46becoming conscious
22:49of all of those unconscious thoughts
22:51means now you're no longer the program.
22:53You're only the program when you're
22:55unconscious to that belief. The moment
22:58you become conscious of that unconscious
23:01belief,
23:03the the greater the probability
23:06that you won't go unconscious to it
23:07again. And that's how you become more
23:09conscious
23:11is catching yourself going unconscious,
23:13and it becomes a skill.
23:15The more you practice it, the better you
23:17get at going, like, I'm just not going
23:19to believe that any longer. And nerve
23:21cells that no longer fire together no
23:24longer wire together. So, as you attend
23:26to that thought and notice it and
23:28observe it without actually believing
23:30it, it weakens the connections
23:33neurologically in the brain.
23:35And there's there's a neurological death
23:39or a separation that's taking place.
23:42Okay, so the person then who blames and
23:45complains and makes excuses and feels
23:47sorry for themselves and behaves a
23:49certain way,
23:51well, those are habits, right? And those
23:54are unconscious programmed behaviors.
23:57The only way you're going to change is
23:59become conscious that you complain all
24:01day long or you blame somebody for your
24:04life.
24:05A happy person
24:08would would never want to be that would
24:10have behave that way and would never
24:12want to be in a relationship
24:14with a person who complains all the
24:16time. Why would you, right? So, then
24:19that person says, "Okay,
24:21how many times do I have to forget
24:24until I stop forgetting and start
24:25remembering? That is my moment of
24:27change." So, today
24:29I'm going to behave in a different way
24:31and make a different choice. I'm going
24:32to just stay conscious to not do these
24:34things.
24:36Okay, and then the person says, "Well, I
24:37feel unworthy, I feel stressed, I feel
24:40unhappy, I feel sad, I feel
24:44victimized, I feel grief, whatever."
24:47Is this the emotion that I want to have
24:48in my future? Well, no, these are
24:50emotions that are connected to
24:52experiences of the past. If I truly you
24:55love in my life, I I can't feel
24:58resentment. Okay, am I willing to trade
25:00resentment
25:02for this elevated emotion? Okay, let me
25:04just remember all the times in my day,
25:07if I start noticing I feel feeling this
25:09emotion, I'm just going to become
25:11conscious and not go unconscious to it
25:13and and just temper it and work with it.
25:15Okay. So, that is that overcoming
25:18process.
25:20That is the becoming process. Now,
25:23it would make sense then you would have
25:24to ask yourself,
25:26what do I want to believe?
25:28What is a thought do I that I do want to
25:30fire and wire in my brain?
25:33So, with intention and with attention,
25:36if you have the person remember what
25:38they wanted to believe and keep
25:39remembering what they want to believe
25:41and keep remembering what they want to
25:43believe,
25:44they begin to install the hardware. If
25:46you keep attending to it, the hardware
25:48becomes like a software program and now
25:50that's the new belief. I can heal. I can
25:53find the relationship. And belief is
25:55like pregnancy, either you are or you're
25:56not. I mean, there's no in between. So,
25:59it's you want to install the circuitry
26:01to such a degree that that's the new
26:04voice in your head Yeah. that's saying,
26:06"You come on, Jay, get up. Come on, Jay,
26:08let's go. Come on, you can do this. Come
26:09on, make the time for it. Come on, this
26:11is your vision. Come on."
26:12coach in your own head.
26:13It's It's a voice.
26:14Yeah, a voice.
26:14It's a voice that's no longer the
26:16disbelief. The The voice is
26:19basically your future self talking to
26:22you is what it is. It's your future. All
26:24right, so Okay, so what am I If I start
26:27behaving in the old way, I know I'm
26:29going to I'm going to disbelieve. So,
26:30how do I want to behave? How am I going
26:32to behave
26:33on my next date? How am I going to
26:35behave in my next Zoom meeting with my
26:38team? How am I going to behave uh with
26:40my children or in my family or with my
26:41partner? Uh with my ex. Uh how how what
26:46uh what do I How do I want to be? And
26:48the act of rehearsing mentally in your
26:51mind who you want to be. The act of just
26:54closing your eyes and mentally
26:56rehearsing that scene
26:58literally causes the brain to look like
27:00you already did it. It looks like it's
27:02already happened, right? So now you're
27:04priming the brain neurologically. Keep
27:06doing it over and over again, the
27:08hardware becomes more automatic like a
27:10software program.
27:11You naturally get your behaviors to
27:13match your intentions and because you
27:14installed the circuitry.
27:16Practice feeling the elevated emotion.
27:19If you feel that emotion and you say,
27:21"When I feel this emotion I can believe
27:23in that future, then let me just keep
27:25remembering to feel this way in every
27:27part of my day. Just let me let me just
27:29not This is not about positive thinking.
27:31This is about conditioning my body
27:33emotionally into the future. So I got to
27:36keep my energy up
27:37Yeah. the entire day and I can't default
27:39back to the old person. As long as I'm
27:42feeling this emotion, I'm going to
27:44behave that way. As long as I'm feeling
27:46this emotion, I'm going to believe in
27:47that future.
27:49If I maintain
27:51this modified state of mind and body my
27:54entire day as an experiment,
27:57should there be some evidence in my life
27:59as a result of my change in state of
28:01being, a synchronicity, a coincidence?
28:03And if there is, then I'm going to do it
28:05again. I'm going to actually do it again
28:07and I think that's Yes.
28:09stepping into that future. Stress is
28:12consumes enormous amounts of energy for
28:15the body. So the the repetition of that
28:17begins to down regulate genes and create
28:20disease. So the question is, can your
28:23thoughts make you well? I've seen people
28:25with all kinds of health conditions from
28:28muscular dystrophy to uh spinal cord
28:31injuries, that's Parkinson's disease to
28:34stage four cancers go into complete
28:36remission. The person changed and when
28:38they changed, their health changed. What
28:40are some practices and what are
28:42milestones in the day that people can
28:45use to hardwire
28:47those thoughts and beliefs. Like what
28:49are some mechanism, what are some
28:50tactics that can make a day feel like,
28:53"Okay, that's my game plan for how I'm
28:55going to do this." Because as you
28:56rightly said,
28:58you think about it in the morning,
29:00"Okay, I'm going to try and do this."
29:01And then you're late for that meeting,
29:03you know, you spill coffee over
29:05yourself, something happened, the kids
29:07aren't, you know, and then you're
29:08stressed. And now all of a sudden you've
29:10gone from being a this and a that. And
29:11what are what are some
29:12Yeah. key checkpoints throughout a
29:1324-hour
29:14think it's bad to react. I mean,
29:16everybody reacts. I react. The question
29:18is
29:19how long are you going to react? That's
29:21the real question. Like how long you can
29:22keep that going?
29:24Because surely if you're feeling that
29:26emotion,
29:28you're going to behave as if you're in
29:29your past.
29:30And you're going to believe in that
29:32past. You're going to you're actually
29:33going to believe that it's valid to
29:35behave that way, okay?
29:37So, if people just
29:40set the intention in the beginning of
29:42their day, and we've all done this,
29:44and gone unconscious within the first
29:46hour. Yep.
29:48Whatever it takes for that person with
29:51the if if it is before they sit down and
29:53eat lunch that they check in with
29:55themselves and see if they're if they've
29:57fallen from grace, or if they're still
30:00in that state or where they're at.
30:02If what they do it on their break, a
30:04person who's possessed in a good way,
30:08when they understand like when I change,
30:11my life changes,
30:13and nothing changes in my life until I
30:15change. A person who's really really
30:18committed
30:19to that,
30:21they will constantly be checking in with
30:23themselves because it they're paying
30:25more attention
30:27to their inner world, they're paying
30:28more attention to themselves and less
30:30attention to everybody else. They're
30:31really regulating their state. So,
30:35So, any reminder a person has, and I do
30:37this sometimes three times a day.
30:41I have to break away and remember like
30:44I'm losing it. Like I'm my energy's
30:46dropping.
30:49And in the light of all eternity, this
30:50moment matters more than anything else
30:52cuz it's never going to be the right
30:53time. It's never going to be the right
30:55time when you feel that emotion.
30:57If I could convert right now and when
30:59it's the hardest it matters the most. If
31:01I can just get back into my heart and
31:04change my state,
31:05synchronize my heart to my brain. If I
31:07can do that in 15 minutes and come back
31:09out,
31:10will I see
31:12reality differently? Okay.
31:14Let me practice that.
31:16I tend to
31:18be more patient. I tend to be more
31:20aware. I think the heart is a different
31:22consciousness.
31:24I I tend to be more considerate, uh more
31:26present. I think that's the side effect
31:28of doing it.
31:30So, change is about reminding yourself
31:33over and over again. Change is about
31:35the overcoming process. The The
31:38overcoming process
31:40is actually the becoming and people all
31:43the time that heal in this work,
31:46they're doing their meditations, they're
31:48not doing their meditations to heal.
31:51They're doing their meditations to
31:53change.
31:54And they discover that when they change,
31:57they heal.
31:59So, now if you accept that as a new
32:01belief that when I change, my life will
32:04change. And you got to keep reminding
32:05yourself of that belief. You got to keep
32:08reminding yourself if I change cuz this
32:10goes against the program. Like, when my
32:12life changes, then I'll change. That's
32:14the program. No, no, no. When you
32:16change, the experiment is will your life
32:18change? Okay, so then now you attack the
32:21belief.
32:21Yes. It's not like, "Oh my god, this is
32:24something that's bigger than me." You
32:25attack the belief like, "This is no
32:28longer serving me. Mhm.
32:30Being complaining is making me unhappy.
32:33Yeah. Living by this emotion, justified
32:36or not, is not loving to me. This is
32:39Absolutely.
32:39down-regulating genes. My body's
32:41believing it's living in the same event
32:4324 hours a day if I feel the same
32:45emotion.
32:46Okay, well, let's change that. So, when
32:49the person is taking on that belief,
32:52like like if I change, my life changes.
32:54And I think most people try to create a
32:56a new person or reality as the same
32:58personality. It doesn't work. We got to
33:00become somebody else.
33:02So, if you took that on as the truth,
33:03okay, I got to remember that. If I
33:04change, change, my my health could
33:06change. If I change, my life could
33:08change. Okay, now it's a different game
33:11now. It's not like I have to.
33:13This is like I want to change to see my
33:15life change, right? It's more of a want
33:17to. What are some of the
33:19changes that you've seen people make in
33:21their life that have had the biggest
33:23changes in their life? Oh my god. God,
33:25I've seen I've seen the most amazing
33:27things in the last
33:30um in just in the last few years. I
33:31mean, the Joe Dispenza that's sitting
33:33here today has had a dramatic change in
33:36his belief system,
33:38in witnessing human transformation to
33:41the scale that I've witnessed it,
33:43that has that's literally changed my
33:45belief in what's possible, right? I
33:47mean,
33:48and and and it's coming from the data
33:51that we're gathering, but it's also
33:53coming from the stories of
33:55transformation, testimonials.
33:57And and this I have to be careful about
33:59this because this is a stretch for a lot
34:01of people.
34:02I'm not talking about,
34:04you know, just
34:0650 people. I'm talking about hundreds,
34:08if not thousands, of people
34:11who have who have broken the 4-minute
34:12mile.
34:14That they went from absolute bankruptcy,
34:18uh in severe debt,
34:21to
34:22uh you know, super abundance, whole new
34:25life,
34:26by changing.
34:28I've seen people with all kinds of
34:29health conditions,
34:31from muscular dystrophy to uh spinal
34:34cord injuries, that's Parkinson's
34:37disease to stage four cancers
34:39to all kinds of crazy serious health
34:42conditions to go into complete
34:44remission. The person changed and when
34:47they changed
34:48their health changed. I've I've seen
34:51people's
34:52brain scans
34:54when they're in that place of a
34:56transcendental
34:58experience. I've seen what the brain
34:59looks like. That arousal that's taking
35:01place in that moment where they're
35:03connecting
35:05is not fear.
35:07It's not anger.
35:08It's not pain. That's what typically
35:10creates arousal of survival. This
35:13arousal is ecstasy. This arousal is
35:16bliss. They're having a transcendental
35:18moment where they're interacting with
35:20something that's beyond their senses
35:24that's causing their body to be lifted
35:27and and aroused. How much work does it
35:30take? That's the crazy thing about what
35:33we're discovering.
35:35Get a group of people together.
35:37Give them information that's based on
35:39science. Have them understand the
35:40information. Have it teach it back to
35:42somebody. Have them understand what
35:44they're doing and why they're doing it.
35:46You know, combine quantum physics with
35:47neuroscience and neuroendocrinology and
35:49psychoneuroimmunology and epigenetics
35:52and electromagnetism and Newtonian
35:53physics and all that stuff. But make it
35:55really simple that makes sense to them
35:57so they can understand it. Leave nothing
35:59to conjecture, nothing to superstition,
36:01nothing to dogma. Have it wired in their
36:04brain so they can teach it back to
36:05somebody. They understand it. Set up the
36:07conditions in the environment to apply
36:09that information, that philosophy, that
36:11theory. Personalize it. Demonstrate. Do
36:13something with it.
36:15Get your behaviors to match your
36:16intentions. Get your actions equal to
36:18your thoughts. Get your mind and body
36:19working together. You're going to have a
36:20new experience.
36:21Experience enriches circuitry in the
36:23brain and it makes a chemical and that
36:25chemical's is a feeling or an emotion.
36:27And now,
36:28you're teaching your body chemically
36:30to understand what your mind has
36:32intellectually understood. Now, the
36:34knowledge isn't just in the mind, the
36:35knowledge is the information and the
36:37experience is now in the body. And
36:39that's what emotion does, it works
36:40chemically instructing our body to
36:42understand what our mind has
36:43intellectually understood. So,
36:46you get a group of people together
36:48and have them
36:50understand information and then go to
36:52the application.
36:54You can see that in 7 days, uh people
36:57have these very profound uh
37:00transcendental experiences.
37:01At your progress workshops?
37:03Yeah, and the the week-long retreats.
37:06And and so, when we look at the data,
37:08and people who hit these aroused states,
37:11uh sometimes it's more than 50%
37:15of the subjects that are that we're
37:17measuring in terms of their brain scan.
37:19So, it's it's not like one person or two
37:21people, it happens more and more. Um
37:24as people get better at doing it. Yeah.
37:27Have you seen any key traits that people
37:30who accelerate that process have?
37:33People who really apply themselves
37:35effectively to the process, what kind of
37:37traits and characteristics can people
37:38develop in order to
37:40really see that shift and see that
37:42change for themselves? Yeah, well, I
37:44think people have to be present with
37:46information, and I think paying
37:48attention is being present.
37:50And I think it's a skill, and the more
37:51you practice it, you bet the better you
37:53get at it. But, if you're not present,
37:56then you can't you can't hear the
37:58information because your mind is in the
38:00predictable future or the familiar past,
38:02right? So,
38:03that's why online courses for me are
38:05just something that I never would ever
38:07do, because I I don't want to compete
38:08with a person's attention, cuz it's so
38:11much easier to forget this information
38:13than to remember it, right? But but if
38:15you can get a community of people
38:17together,
38:18have them understand the information,
38:20and then in 7 days immerse themselves
38:24fully into transformation and change.
38:28Sooner or later, there's an emergent
38:30consciousness that takes place in the
38:32collective, and this is what we
38:33discovered.
38:35One of the things that was so amazing in
38:37just looking at the data is you get
38:40people from all over the world that come
38:41to these events, you know, sometimes the
38:4490 different countries.
38:46And you have everybody with their own
38:48very specific genotype. Genes make
38:50proteins, right? So,
38:52everybody has their own unique gene
38:54expression
38:56and their own genotype.
38:58But at the end of 7 days,
39:00about 80% of the population
39:04is expressing
39:07the same genes and making the same
39:08proteins. That means that that the
39:10tribe,
39:12the flock, the herd, the collective,
39:13there's an emergent consciousness
39:16where people are biologically evolving
39:19together, right? So,
39:22something happens that's intangible when
39:24you get a group of people together and
39:26they start overcoming themselves.
39:28And they sit with themselves long enough
39:30to be curious about what's on the other
39:32side of that belief. Instead of saying I
39:33quit and get up and get my cell phone or
39:35call somebody or go eat something or go
39:37do something, if that you're going to
39:39sit there and you're going to just
39:41become really conscious that there's
39:43you're not going to give up on you.
39:44You're going to go past that point, and
39:46I think
39:48giving up on ourselves becomes a habit,
39:50right?
39:51So, so allow the person to get beyond,
39:54sit long enough that they come up
39:56against that emptiness or that pain or
39:59that that sadness, and instead of
40:01getting up and saying I'm doing my
40:02meditation wrong, I understand I'm
40:03actually doing it right. This is part of
40:05the transformation process. Okay, now
40:08that I'm feeling this emotion, let me
40:09just lower the volume to this emotion,
40:11get back into the present moment. And
40:13now you're taming the animal, right?
40:15Yeah. taming the animal self, and and it
40:18and it takes an enormous amount
40:21of energy
40:22and an enormous amount of awareness to
40:24do that. So,
40:26so if you give people the information
40:28and you give them numerous opportunities
40:31to overcome themselves and numerous
40:33opportunities to connect, sooner or
40:35later this emergent consciousness will
40:37begin to form. And just like
40:39infection spreads amongst the community
40:42and creates disease, all of a sudden you
40:44see health and wealth and abundance and
40:47freedom becomes infectious as disease.
40:49And and then and then
40:51that's what we see at the end of 7 days.
40:53There is an emergent consciousness
40:55that's reflected in people's biology.
40:57And genetically they look like they're
40:59living in a new life.
41:01Thousands and thousands of metabolites
41:03are being released into their blood to
41:05suggest they're in a new environment and
41:07they're in a ballroom. And there's
41:09nothing really special happening in
41:12ballroom.
41:13But their body's looking like they're
41:15living in a new life and they're making
41:18thousands of new chemicals.
41:20You know, endogenous opioids,
41:23uh
41:24chemicals for neurogenesis, chemicals
41:26that suppress cancer growth, chemicals
41:29that down regulate
41:30genes for Alzheimer's, chemicals that
41:33that created a resistance to a spike
41:36virus.
41:37These are
41:38chemicals that the body innately is
41:40secreting
41:42when it's living in the environment of
41:44love. Mhm. When when it's living, the
41:47body is can be relaxed
41:50in the present moment
41:52and not be preoccupied with the next
41:54moment. We discovered when you're
41:55relaxed in your heart
41:57and you're awakened your brain, you're
41:58in the perfect state uh to create
42:01heart, awakened your brain.
42:03Yeah, that's the formula. Yeah.
42:04How long does it take scientifically to
42:06rewire a belief?
42:08I don't think I don't think um you could
42:11actually measure that. Um I think
42:13there's too many variables.
42:14The comprehension of the information,
42:17how long the person meditates, how
42:19present they are when they are
42:21meditating,
42:22what their past was like, and and
42:24there's a lot of
42:26variables. I've seen it happen
42:28uh instantaneously. What what appears
42:31instantaneous to be instantaneous, but
42:33that curse person could have been
42:34grappling with that belief,
42:36you know, for a long period of time. So,
42:40it turns out when we're relaxed in our
42:42heart,
42:44the body is believing it's living in a
42:45nurturing environment, and it begins to
42:48express new genes, and that's exactly uh
42:50how we change.
42:51Mhm. Because yeah, I we always hear
42:53that, you know, the famous 30 to 90 days
42:56for a habit, like 60 days for a habit,
42:58that kind of
42:59thing to change a habit, but a belief is
43:01so much more deeper than that. Yeah.
43:03Well, a belief is a habit of thinking.
43:05Yeah. It's just a really unconscious
43:06habit of thinking.
43:08I think it I everybody's belief should
43:10always be challenged. My belief
43:12in what's possible is being challenged
43:14today. I think that's fun. Like I I I
43:16watch the scientists that are doing the
43:18studies, the empirical studies. I'm
43:20watching them run the same experiment
43:23five times in a row because they're
43:25really expecting a different outcome. I
43:26know right in that moment they're
43:28changing their belief. I know right in
43:30that moment they're discovering
43:31something new. I know in that moment
43:34they're going, "Oh my god, this is
43:34unbelievable." Right? So,
43:37so I think the greatest belief that we
43:38could ever have is our belief in
43:40ourselves
43:42and our belief in possibility, and I
43:43think that has to be earned.
43:46That's that has to be earned. You got to
43:48show up for you
43:50enough times where you have that belief,
43:53you earned it. It's not like you do
43:55something in one day. You The person who
43:57heals from a health condition who
43:58finally says, "Oh my god, I thought this
44:00could work for me."
44:02They they show up every day. They're
44:04showing up every single day because
44:07if they don't show up, then they don't
44:08believe it's possible. And and they have
44:11to show up to prove to themselves that
44:13it is. And
44:14some of those people
44:16did their meditation for a year. Mhm.
44:19And they earned that belief in that
44:21future. And of course, the effect was
44:23they they they had that moment that
44:24looked like "Oh my god, that person just
44:26healed." Well, well, they've been
44:28they've been walking the yellow brick
44:29road for the last
44:31year and they never missed a day. And
44:33they'll tell you
44:34"The meditations I remember the most
44:36were the hard ones. Not the easy ones.
44:38The ones where I had to sit with myself
44:40and I would not give up. Those are the
44:42ones that mattered the most because
44:44that's what got them to that point,
44:46right? It was the overcoming process.
44:48Nobody wants to overcome.
44:49And Amazon Prime just spoiled us, you
44:51know, they you just want it, right? And
44:53but it's the overcoming process, that
44:5595% that's programmed.
44:58That's what you got to dig deep in and
45:00and you got to become really conscious
45:02of it. And that overcoming process
45:04the side effect of that is the actual
45:06becoming process. The body's liberated
45:08energy naturally moves to the heart.
45:10It's not like something that you have to
45:11do.
45:12The body's no longer tormented
45:14emotionally by the past. It's no longer
45:17habituated into the past. It's no longer
45:19believing in the past.
45:20Energy naturally moves into the heart
45:22when it's not in survival. That's where
45:24it should be going. And now we're we're
45:26we're ready to create. So, it's im-
45:28important for people to understand that
45:30that that you always have to give
45:33something up from your past in order to
45:35create a new future. Yeah, we're just so
45:38obsessed with the person at the top of
45:40the mountain that we don't look at the
45:42journey they took to get there.
45:43Sure. And no matter how many times we
45:46know that there is no such thing as an
45:47overnight success
45:49in any way in healing or whatever it may
45:51be,
45:52we constantly feel like, "Oh, but look
45:53at that person. They figured it out and
45:55they're enlightened. Maybe they always
45:56had it." We're we're good at ascribing
45:59enlightenment to people without thinking
46:01that they had a purification journey to
46:04get there.
46:05Yeah. And therefore we kind of believe
46:06like we either have it or we don't. We
46:08don't believe that journey is possible
46:10for us. Yeah, I think that I think we
46:11were told the the wrong story. Mhm.
46:14Yeah. Yeah, we've just kept telling
46:16ourselves the wrong story. I I saw in
46:19Source you talked about how protein and
46:21meditation
46:22that creates immunity. I wanted you to
46:24talk about that. That's
46:26That just sounds
46:28mind-blowing. As I said, genes make
46:30proteins and proteins responsible for
46:32the structure and function of your body.
46:33The expression of proteins is the
46:36expression of life.
46:37So, react and respond to conditions that
46:41cause you to feel the emotions of
46:42survival.
46:44Your reaction
46:46or your response to that condition, to
46:49that challenge will actually weaken your
46:51body if you keep doing it over and over
46:53again. Stress is consumes enormous
46:56amounts of energy for the body.
46:58So, the the repetition of that begins to
47:01down regulate genes and create disease.
47:05And so,
47:07if you can turn on the stress response
47:10just by thinking about that problem,
47:13uh your thoughts could make you sick.
47:15So, the question is, can your thoughts
47:18make you well? And so, we said to
47:20people, "Okay,
47:22trade resentment and impatience and
47:25frustration for an elevated emotion like
47:28gratitude or appreciation and kindness
47:30and care. We'll hook you up
47:32to a heart rate monitor. We want to make
47:34sure that your heart is coherent so we
47:36know that you're actually feeling these
47:38emotions.
47:40And we're going to we're going to
47:41measure an an immunoglobulin called
47:44immunoglobulin A, which is really the
47:46primary
47:48defense against bacteria and virus in
47:50your body. It's the body's natural flu
47:51shot.
47:53And it it goes it's suppressed when
47:55cortisol levels go up because
47:58stress hormones shut down the immune
48:00system.
48:01So could a person then create an
48:03elevated emotion and the body is so
48:06objective
48:07that it does not know the difference
48:09between a real-life experience that's
48:11creating that emotion
48:13and the emotion that that person is
48:15fabricating by thought alone. To the
48:16body, it's the unconscious mind, it's
48:18the same.
48:20So if the person feels the elevated
48:22emotion
48:24will they begin to signal new genes
48:28that will make new proteins and we
48:29discovered that that particular
48:32immunoglobulin A went up by 50%
48:35in in the subjects that we measured. So
48:39feeling elevated emotions causes the
48:42body to upregulate genes and and allow
48:45the immune system to repair and
48:47regenerate. Now that study was our first
48:50study, but when we when we started
48:53looking at the plasma of advanced
48:56meditators right around the time COVID
48:58happened in one of some of our first
49:00experiments that we did with the
49:02University of California, San Diego
49:04we had all this plasma and they closed
49:06the lab down.
49:07And closed the university down and the
49:09lab was was was minimized.
49:12But we had all this great plasma from
49:14advanced meditators so there was a
49:15little bit of time so we just started
49:17messing around with
49:20creating a pseudo virus like a
49:21SARS-CoV-2 virus.
49:23And we picked the first subject and we
49:27did what's called an adoptive transfer.
49:28We used his plasma
49:31and put the pseudo virus near an ACE2
49:33receptor which would you know what what
49:36the spike virus attaches to.
49:39And we discovered
49:41that there was an immunity in the plasma
49:44of the advanced meditator where the
49:46virus did not could not enter the cell
49:49like it was like like stuck on the
49:51outside of the cell.
49:53We saw that in novice meditators, there
49:55were some that were stuck to the outside
49:57of the cell and and others that made it
50:00into the cell. And then we saw
50:02with the controls that they all were in
50:04the cell.
50:05And so, we went through a series of
50:08scientific experiments and we isolated
50:10that it was a protein.
50:13And then we isolated the exact protein
50:16that the body in advanced meditators
50:18make and it's called serpin A5.
50:21And if you look online for serpin A5,
50:23it'll tell you that it has a profound
50:25effect
50:27against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. And so,
50:29the plasma of advanced meditators
50:32were naturally creating an elevated
50:35level of serpin A5
50:37that inhibited
50:39the virus from entering the cells. In
50:41other words, the body is greater than
50:44the environment. And and so, we've
50:46replicated the study a few times and we
50:48see the same outcomes. We published the
50:50paper on it and yeah, it's out there.
50:52Wow, that's I mean, that's pretty
50:54remarkable. Yeah, we were super
50:56surprised. We were really surprised when
50:57we saw the results.
50:58surprising. Yeah. It's It's mind-blowing
51:00to think about that being possible, but
51:03I guess it shouldn't be. It's just uh we
51:05haven't
51:07we haven't really accessed the true
51:08powers of the body and the mind and
51:11we're we're almost unaware. You know, we
51:12always hear that quote of like
51:14you only use 10% of your brain or
51:16whatever it is.
51:18What have you What has your research
51:20found of like how much we're not tapping
51:21into the ability that we have? Well,
51:24they used to call this pseudoscience and
51:26I can tell you now you can't call it
51:28pseudoscience.
51:29This is what our data suggests.
51:32Our data suggests that your autonomic
51:34nervous system
51:36manufactures a pharmacy of chemicals
51:38that works better than any drug.
51:40That's what our data shows. The drug
51:42study at its best is about 25%. One out
51:46of four people have a response and it
51:47usually takes
51:493 months or more to have an effect.
51:53We're seeing that the at the end of
51:567 days
51:58the 75%
52:0084%
52:02100%
52:05of the people
52:06that are in that are being tested
52:08are having the same outcome. So their
52:12plasma, their blood, their brains
52:15in 7 days look like advanced meditators.
52:18People who just have never meditated
52:19before.
52:21Every time we've done a study
52:24we have been
52:25completely blown away
52:28by the power of human potential.
52:31We're greater than we think.
52:33We're more powerful than we know. We're
52:35more unlimited than we can ever dream.
52:37And when you have this incredible
52:39evidence
52:41uh in science and you have the
52:44incredible evidence in human testimony
52:47uh I think evidence is allowed us voice,
52:49right? So
52:50so I my as again, my belief has been
52:53absolutely blown away because the data
52:57is telling us that we're in in
52:59incredibly powerful. And and
53:01as an example, we took just as a fun
53:03experiment, we took young people between
53:05the ages of 18 and 25
53:08and we paired them
53:10with elders that were at least 30 years
53:13or more older in their 60s, 70s or 80s.
53:17And we did brain scans on them and did
53:20cognitive tests on them and did some
53:21other uh studies.
53:24And the the job was that
53:27they had to spend the entire 7 days
53:30together.
53:32They had to eat together. They had to
53:33sit next to each other. They had to
53:34teach the information back to each
53:36other. Uh they had to meditate next to
53:38each other. They had to
53:40have a huddle at 5:30 in the morning and
53:42take these cognitive tests and it's
53:44hilarious because at the beginning of
53:46the study
53:48the the the elders were like, "I'm
53:50sorry. I can't have another kid. This
53:52kid is not going to work for me." And
53:53the young kids were like, "Oh my god,
53:54that person is there's no way. They're
53:56so mean. I'm never going to make it."
53:58And and we said, "No, no, no, that's
54:00part of the study." And turns out that
54:02they became incredibly connected.
54:06And we we used people going through a
54:087-day
54:10retreat as the control.
54:12Which every just about 100% of the
54:15people's brains changed for the better.
54:17So, these people we knew their brains
54:19were going to change for the better. But
54:20when we paired the young with the old,
54:23their brains were
54:25comparatively way better.
54:27Way better than anybody in the in the in
54:30the
54:31community that was going through the
54:33event. In other words,
54:34the wisdom of the elders somehow was
54:37transferred to the youth and the
54:38plasticity of the youth somehow was
54:41given to the elder. And we look at the
54:42post scans of the brain, their four
54:44brains were in beautiful gamma. Like
54:47super conscious, super present, super
54:49aware. And the rest of the brain was
54:51elegant patterns of alpha, creative and
54:54and relaxed and awake.
54:56When we did the cognitive tests, you
54:59know, we
55:00we expected that we were expecting or
55:03hoping that
55:04the elders would perform better by
55:07hanging out with the youth. But we
55:10discovered the youth actually performed
55:12better by hanging out with the elders.
55:15And again, we just never
55:16Yeah. anticipated that. It's so
55:18important for you to hang out with your
55:20grandparents.
55:21Yeah. It's so important to hang out with
55:23people that are older than you because
55:25there's an exchange
55:27of information both locally and
55:30non-locally
55:31that transforms each other. And we
55:33discovered that people
55:36change people. That's what community is
55:39about. So,
55:39get a collective network together of
55:422,000 people or 2,500 people from all
55:44over the world.
55:46And at the end of 7 days, they're all
55:47expressing the same genes, making the
55:49same proteins. Their microbiome is
55:51dramatically changed. Their microbiome
55:54looks like they're a completely
55:55different person. They're making
55:5713, 14 different probiotic
56:01microbes that would take them months to
56:04make.
56:05And they're making those in 7 days,
56:07right? So, so
56:08the emergent consciousness is being
56:10reflected on every level from brain
56:14to heart, to microbiome, to gene
56:16expression, to immune system, to breast
56:20milk. I mean, we're seeing great
56:22studies. The breast milk studies we're
56:24doing with women that go through a 7-day
56:27event.
56:28There's information in their breast milk
56:32that could heal a wound in 48 hours that
56:35would normally take 2 weeks. Where
56:36there's information in there that's
56:38pro-life
56:39and pro-growth. So, we've never been
56:41disappointed, Jay, in any of the studies
56:43we've done. We've always sat there and
56:46shook our heads. And every now and then
56:48a new scientist joins the
56:51you know, joins the the team. And
56:53someone will be presenting on the
56:55microbiome as an example. And you see
56:57these I mean, dramatic changes where
56:59people's microbiomes actually look the
57:01same, right? So,
57:03they're not changing their diet. They're
57:04not taking a probiotic. They're not
57:06staying away from You know, there's no
57:08You know, no abstinence from sugar. You
57:10know, they're just living their
57:11Everything's the same. But their
57:13microbiomes are completely different to
57:15reflect a different person. There's a
57:16neuroscientist in the in the kind of
57:18joined. And she's like,
57:20I'm sorry. Like,
57:22how is this all working? Like, how is
57:25the mind
57:27producing such dramatic effects
57:30on the microbiome in 7 days. So, we're
57:33never disappointed in the studies we do.
57:35So, I do think we have a really great
57:38potential, human potential. I just I
57:41just think that we have to reframe
57:43certain beliefs about health
57:46and certain certain beliefs around
57:48lifestyle. Before I get to my last
57:50question, there's one thing I wanted to
57:51ask you, which is you've talked about
57:52the power of, you know, you're doing
57:54these retreats right now with You just
57:56told me one's coming up with like 8,000
57:58people, 2,500 people, and you're talking
57:59about the power of collective
58:02consciousness.
58:03And I think
58:05the world at large is experiencing what
58:08seems to be a dividing collective
58:10consciousness.
58:11And I think even if you look at it on a
58:12micro level,
58:14let's give an example of like a bunch of
58:16friends who like to get together and
58:17they like to like talk about their
58:19challenges and the problems and the
58:20issues they're having
58:22with whatever it may be.
58:25What's kind of collective consciousness
58:26is that creating and how can people
58:28elevate each other together as friends?
58:31Because
58:32in the same way as you said, until we
58:34change nothing changes,
58:36we keep seeing the same people, we're
58:38all in the same position, and things are
58:39not changing. So, obviously, something
58:41hasn't changed. First thing is that
58:44reality is a memory.
58:46We see reality through the lens of the
58:48past. That's just the way it is. So, so
58:51I have a memory of you, and as long as I
58:53have a memory of you, I you show up
58:55equal to my memory of you, then I'm
58:57like, oh, I can recognize Jay.
59:00The moment a person starts to change in
59:02a small collective community, they don't
59:05show up as the memory that people have
59:07of them. Like, something's different,
59:08something's out of phase, right? And so
59:10then the question is like, what is it?
59:12What is it about you? And if the
59:13person's happier, then you suspect, oh,
59:15they they are in love, or they must have
59:18got a new job, or they're taking a new
59:20drug, a new medication, or whatever it
59:22is, right? But but they're genuinely
59:24just different or happy. So, if that
59:27consciousness of that small collective
59:30is all about evolution, is all about
59:32love, is all about growth,
59:34you're going to say to that person, "So,
59:36what happened?" And that person's going
59:38to say, "I changed." Like, "Well, how
59:39did you change?" "I just decided that I
59:42was holding on to this emotion
59:43resentment, and I've just been working
59:45for the last 2 weeks, and I feel better.
59:47Like, I genuinely
59:48feel better now that I'm not addicted to
59:51that emotion of resentment." Now, the
59:53person is naturally going to say, "What?
59:55Well, how did you do that?"
59:58Well, I I Okay, and then you get in the
59:59conversation about change, right? Now,
1:00:02the person's inspired by
1:00:05someone in the flock
1:00:07who's breaking out and and changing
1:00:09their consciousness, changing their
1:00:11awareness, changing their energy,
1:00:12changing their emotional state, and it's
1:00:14evident. They're the example.
1:00:17And mirror neurons switch on in the
1:00:19brain, and mirror neurons emulate
1:00:21behavior.
1:00:22So, if that person is kind and present
1:00:25and considerate and caring, all of a
1:00:27sudden you're like, "Wow.
1:00:29Wow, Jay is like really present and
1:00:32really cool." And you're going to begin
1:00:34to think about that more and more, and
1:00:37mirror neurons will be like encouraging
1:00:39you to behave like that tribe, that
1:00:41person in the tribe.
1:00:43You get enough people doing that, and
1:00:45then, you know, the collective changes
1:00:47naturally. And of course, it's not a
1:00:49linear process,
1:00:51but that's how people change. Now, on a
1:00:53macroscopic level,
1:00:56like the world,
1:00:59in the all the time that I've lived on
1:01:01this planet, I've never seen the world
1:01:04personally in the state that it
1:01:05currently is in, and
1:01:08there's a lot of separation, there's a
1:01:09lot of division, there's a lot of
1:01:11extremes,
1:01:13uh there's a lot of uncertainty, you
1:01:15know, this is a a crazy time.
1:01:17And so, our curiosity
1:01:20is
1:01:22there's a collective consciousness in
1:01:23the world.
1:01:25And that collective consciousness is
1:01:27based on the information
1:01:29that the consciousness is being fed
1:01:32because information causes you to become
1:01:34conscious of whatever you were
1:01:36unconscious to. And you can't have
1:01:38consciousness without energy. You can't
1:01:40have a thought without a frequency. So,
1:01:43the division that's taking place
1:01:46collectively is a lot of chaos and a lot
1:01:48of disorder. Okay, so
1:01:51if the energy is chaotic and entropic
1:01:54and disorderly, but there's an enormous
1:01:56amount of it,
1:01:58is is there a way to change that energy
1:02:02collectively? And is it
1:02:05the number of people?
1:02:07Is it the amount of energy?
1:02:09Or is it the most coherent
1:02:12signature? And it doesn't have to be a
1:02:14large group, it could be a small
1:02:16collective group
1:02:18with coherent hearts
1:02:20and coherent brains,
1:02:22could they begin to collectively
1:02:26begin to change the field? And that's
1:02:28what we're looking at. We're looking to
1:02:30see like in in an event that we do
1:02:33with 2,000 people as an example,
1:02:35we have random event generators that are
1:02:38placed all throughout the room and
1:02:39they're sophisticated coin tosses. And
1:02:42the more you toss a coin, the more it's
1:02:44going to be 50/50. So, these machines
1:02:47are tossing thousands of tosses per
1:02:49second. So,
1:02:51in the random, it wouldn't be 010101
1:02:53maybe 11100010100011100
1:02:58like that back and forth, but but
1:02:59overall it's 50/50. And if there's
1:03:01nobody in the room,
1:03:02it's always 50/50.
1:03:04Get a collective network of observers
1:03:06together with brain and heart coherence
1:03:08and set an intention for whatever it is.
1:03:11Let's just to say heal others.
1:03:13And all of a sudden that machine goes
1:03:160101111111111111
1:03:19just moves right outside of the norm,
1:03:21like outside. So, this is a machine
1:03:25that's programmed to flip a coin
1:03:28randomly, and all of a sudden the
1:03:30effects of a collective network of
1:03:32observers is causing a random event
1:03:35generator to become more orderly.
1:03:37There's an effect that's taking place.
1:03:39Okay.
1:03:40We see it over and over again.
1:03:43We take one of those random event
1:03:45generators and we wrap them in a Faraday
1:03:47cage, you know, like copper and nickel,
1:03:50and heavy metals insulate
1:03:52electromagnetism, and they they insulate
1:03:55frequency. You go to the dentist, he
1:03:56puts the lead apron on you, it's to
1:03:59block the radiation from the x-ray,
1:04:01right? So, that's frequency.
1:04:03So, build a build a Faraday cage around
1:04:06one of them
1:04:07and insulate them, and all the others
1:04:09are moving outside of normal, but the
1:04:11one that's insulated is behaving as if
1:04:13nobody's in the room. So, now we're
1:04:16starting to wonder, is it an
1:04:17electromagnetic energy
1:04:20that actually is having this effect,
1:04:22right? So, then
1:04:24how is that important? Well, okay, if
1:04:26you're in survival, you're not going to
1:04:28trust. If you're in survival, it's all
1:04:30about the self. If it's in survival,
1:04:32you're not at your best, you're going to
1:04:33act very primitive primitively.
1:04:36Okay, so
1:04:37coherent heart, magnetic field, coherent
1:04:40brain, electric field. Now, you got a
1:04:42Wi-Fi signal.
1:04:45What is the number of people
1:04:47that it would take to begin to produce
1:04:50changes that could be globally? So, we
1:04:53did this event in September last year
1:04:55called Walk for the World,
1:04:57and we invited the entire world to walk
1:05:00to become the very change they want to
1:05:01see in the world.
1:05:03We estimated we had probably about 300
1:05:06and plus 350,000 people from
1:05:10all over the world in 160
1:05:13two different countries gather together
1:05:16and do this walk. And we were partnering
1:05:19with the HeartMath Institute, and they
1:05:20have these gigantic sensors
1:05:23that measures the Earth's
1:05:24electromagnetic field. Okay, so the
1:05:27hypothesis was if we could change the
1:05:29Earth's field,
1:05:31will it have an effect on human
1:05:33behavior? Like will it produce some type
1:05:35of change in collect in the collective
1:05:38consciousness?
1:05:39So when we did that walk, we saw the
1:05:41same thing happen
1:05:44that happened uh in the room with the
1:05:46random event generator. The same exact
1:05:48pattern that just went and all of a
1:05:50sudden about at 45 minutes into the
1:05:52walk, you see this dramatic shift in the
1:05:55field of the Earth. So
1:05:57So
1:05:59I don't know what it takes,
1:06:02but I do know that an emergent
1:06:05consciousness that could form for
1:06:09humanity is going to have to be a
1:06:11collective consciousness. It's not one
1:06:13soul. It's it's a collective network.
1:06:16And so just like that flock of birds,
1:06:18just like that school of fish, you study
1:06:21that phenomenon in in biology and and
1:06:24you think there's some leader
1:06:26that everybody's following, but it's a
1:06:27not a top-down from it's a bottom-up
1:06:29from it. Everybody's leading.
1:06:31Everybody is behaving in the same way
1:06:34in synchrony. And and when that happens,
1:06:37the appearance of a larger organism
1:06:40always takes place and and the tribe
1:06:42comes together. Pro-social networks
1:06:45switch on in the brain. We move closer.
1:06:47We bond. We don't see we don't see any
1:06:49differences. We come together. We only
1:06:51see the divine in each other. And and
1:06:53our appreciation for life
1:06:56our appreciation for the moment is
1:06:57enhanced from the experience as well. So
1:07:00powerful. I mean that that resonates so
1:07:02strongly and
1:07:04yeah, it's definitely something to
1:07:05aspire to and work towards, uh,
1:07:08something something to
1:07:11something to kind of lock into creating
1:07:14in our small communities and not
1:07:16underestimating the value of
1:07:20our ordinariness and how powerful that
1:07:23can be and how extraordinary it can be
1:07:25when we're
1:07:26connected together. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1:07:28And I think I think love is the glue,
1:07:30right? You know that. It's what bonds
1:07:31us. It's It's the magnetic force that
1:07:34draws things
1:07:36together. It's a It's a very limbic
1:07:38brain thing and and and, uh,
1:07:41falling in love with yourself,
1:07:43falling in love with life,
1:07:45falling in love with a future,
1:07:47you know,
1:07:48falling in love with the moment is what
1:07:51what what why we're here, right? I mean,
1:07:52that's what makes life,
1:07:54you know, beautiful.
1:07:55So so in the world right now, the world
1:07:58needs everybody. The world needs you.
1:08:00The world needs me. The world needs
1:08:01everybody to actually show up
1:08:05as the very change they want to see in
1:08:06the world. That means then you're going
1:08:07to have to do things that feel
1:08:09unnatural. That means when everybody
1:08:11else is angry and resentful, you're
1:08:12showing forgiveness. When everybody else
1:08:15is fearful and and
1:08:17anxious, that's time to show courage.
1:08:20You know, when people are racing and
1:08:22rushing and competing to get to the top,
1:08:24that's when you stand still and draw the
1:08:25experience to you.
1:08:27And I think I think
1:08:29when you do that in the beginning, it
1:08:30feels unnatural, but that that's how we
1:08:32become supernatural, right? That's how
1:08:34That's how
1:08:36an emergent consciousness can actually
1:08:37form. Yeah, and the thing that's really
1:08:39going to stay with me today is that
1:08:42I used to believe that the opposite of
1:08:44love was hate,
1:08:45but actually it's stress. Yeah. And
1:08:48because a lot of people will say, "I'm
1:08:49not a hateful person." But I think
1:08:51everyone will agree that they're a
1:08:52stressed out person.
1:08:54Well,
1:08:55fear is not the opposite of love. It's
1:08:57the separation from it. And, you know,
1:09:00pain and suffering is not the opposite
1:09:02of love. It's a separation from it.
1:09:04Anger, hatred, hostility, violence, it's
1:09:07not the opposite of love. It's a
1:09:08separation from it. So, then a person
1:09:11who begins to transform themselves, and
1:09:14we you know, we work with prisons.
1:09:16Uh you know, thousands and thousands of
1:09:18prisoners uh
1:09:19And these these are people that can't
1:09:21even close their eyes
1:09:24and meditate because their their
1:09:26instinct tells them that something
1:09:28really horrible will happen to them cuz
1:09:30they've had a turbulent past.
1:09:33You see, prisoners come together, right?
1:09:35And and move out of stress.
1:09:38The absence
1:09:39of the addiction to the stress hormones
1:09:43is called joy. The body is free. It's no
1:09:46longer out of balance.
1:09:49And people come back into the balance of
1:09:51their true self. They feel like
1:09:53themselves again. Like, "God, I feel
1:09:55like myself again. I got my life back."
1:09:57And
1:09:58we I just read a testimonial from one of
1:09:59the veterans. Uh that we did with a
1:10:02study on PTSD just last week and a and a
1:10:04retreat that we did.
1:10:06These are people that had some
1:10:07pretty turbulent pasts, you know, and
1:10:09that were suicidal. And they This guy
1:10:12said, "I was ready to take my life, you
1:10:14know, I I was ready. I had the pills to
1:10:16end my own misery. And uh I feel
1:10:19completely different now. I I've got my
1:10:21life back. I got my family back. I got
1:10:23everything's different, right? I'm
1:10:24different. I feel it. I I I can't stop
1:10:27crying." Like, so so
1:10:30the the war ended.
1:10:31The war ended for him. You know, it
1:10:33ended. Like, yeah, he's he's not an old
1:10:36soldier now. He's a new soldier, right?
1:10:37He's a He had ended. It ended. So,
1:10:40that person who
1:10:43tells the story of their
1:10:46mental health change, the person who
1:10:48tells the story of their change from
1:10:51their physical health condition, the
1:10:53person who tells the story that's gone
1:10:54from bankruptcy to abundance, the person
1:10:57who tells the story of how the
1:10:58synchronicity of them running into the
1:11:01person that would become the love of
1:11:02their life happened. When they stand on
1:11:04the stage and they tell the story to the
1:11:06collective,
1:11:07there's a change in consciousness
1:11:10because the person's becoming aware
1:11:11there's there's truth
1:11:14standing right on the stage. This is an
1:11:15example of truth that's telling them
1:11:18that somehow this person has changed and
1:11:20their life and their health has changed
1:11:22or their future changed in some way.
1:11:25And that four-minute mile then, the
1:11:27person that's speaking it is breaking
1:11:29through a certain level of consciousness
1:11:31or unconsciousness, and surely someone
1:11:34in the audience is going to relate with
1:11:36them. They're going to see, "My
1:11:37goodness, if that person can do it, I
1:11:40can do it as well, right?" And
1:11:42And that's when it gets really fun
1:11:43because
1:11:45that's when the person believes in
1:11:46themselves a little bit more, right? And
1:11:49their belief in possibility is enhanced,
1:11:51and they're able to make their change in
1:11:53a shorter amount of time.
1:11:56In other words, they're shortening the
1:11:57distance
1:11:59between the thought of what they want
1:12:00and the experience of having it.
1:12:03When they do it properly, right? So,
1:12:05get enough people together
1:12:08uh in a in a in a in an immersive
1:12:10experience, and someone has that change
1:12:13or that breakthrough,
1:12:15you start seeing like five people step
1:12:17out of a wheelchair in one event, two
1:12:20people blind, two people came to the
1:12:22event blind seeing at the end seeing at
1:12:25the end of 7 days. It's unbelievable.
1:12:28So,
1:12:30the evidence and testimony is that
1:12:31four-minute mile meant and people do the
1:12:33best with what they think is available.
1:12:36So, if you don't know or if you're not
1:12:38conscious of that of possibility, you'll
1:12:41make the same choice.
1:12:42Yes.
1:12:43And so, when people become conscious of
1:12:45it, now they can begin to make a
1:12:46different choice, and I think
1:12:48for as many crazy things that are going
1:12:51on in the world, and that's a whole
1:12:52'nother conversation. There's a lot of
1:12:54amazing, great, unbelievable things
1:12:58happening as well, like really amazing
1:13:00things. And so,
1:13:02yeah, we just got to hold on.
1:13:03Absolutely.
1:13:05Uh Joe, thank you so much for coming
1:13:07back onto On Purpose, sharing your
1:13:09incredible research, experiences, and
1:13:12this is going to be one of those ones
1:13:13that I'm going to probably listen to
1:13:15again with my eyes closed cuz I think
1:13:17there were so many powerful parts that
1:13:19especially around when we're trying to
1:13:21rewire our thoughts, when we're trying
1:13:23to
1:13:24as you were saying, to feel and
1:13:25experience something before it happens.
1:13:27I think if we can really just take all
1:13:30of that in, and if we can start to
1:13:32construct our community around us to to
1:13:35build a collective consciousness that
1:13:37pushes us all forward, helps us change,
1:13:39I think we we'll be onto something. So,
1:13:42thank you so much
1:13:43You're welcome. your time, your energy,
1:13:44your presence.
1:13:45And and make it an experiment.
1:13:46Yes.
1:13:47Make an experiment. Don't make it a have
1:13:48to. Yeah. Make it a want to. Like, okay,
1:13:50let me just see if I change my energy,
1:13:52will my life change?
1:13:53Absolutely. If I change something about
1:13:55me, a belief, a behavior, an emotion,
1:13:58should the should should something in my
1:14:01life, some event, begin to change?
1:14:02That's when it becomes exciting, right?
1:14:04And now it's a Well, it's at it's an
1:14:06experiment.
1:14:07at The Source, it's out right now. You
1:14:08can go watch as well the new documentary
1:14:11with Dr. Joe Dispenza. And
1:14:13Joe, excited for so much more.
1:14:15Congratulations on all the retreats and
1:14:17workshops. And again, thank you so much
1:14:19for joining me on On Purpose. Thank you,
1:14:21Jay. I always appreciate it. Thank you.
1:14:22Thank you. If this year you're trying to
1:14:25live longer, live happier, live
1:14:26healthier, go and check out my
1:14:28conversation with the world's biggest
1:14:30longevity doctor, Peter Attia, on how to
1:14:33slow down aging, and why your emotional
1:14:36health is directly impacting your
1:14:39physical health. Acknowledge that there
1:14:41is surprisingly little known about the
1:14:44relationship between nutrition and
1:14:46health. And people are going to be
1:14:47shocked to hear that cuz I think most
1:14:48people think the exact opposite.

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