Dr Edith Eger In My Own Words Recording — Transcript

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9. 1:01well hello everyone my name is rachel
10. 1:04lucy hitt
11. 1:05and on behalf of the holocaust memorial
12. 1:07resource and education
13. 1:09center of florida i'm very pleased to
14. 1:11welcome you here for another session of
15. 1:13in my own words
16. 1:15um today we are very very um
17. 1:18pleased to share some special guests
18. 1:20with you we have
19. 1:21tali dippold as as well as dr
20. 1:25edith eager here with us um i'll be
21. 1:28turning the floor over to them in just a
22. 1:30moment
23. 1:30but i wanted to make sure that you all
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48. 2:22so with that i'm actually going to
49. 2:23introduce tally to you who will then
50. 2:26introduce dr eager tally dippold is the
51. 2:29associate director
52. 2:31of the stan greenspun center for peace
53. 2:33and social justice
54. 2:35at queen's university of charlotte she
55. 2:38served as the executive director of the
56. 2:40levine
57. 2:41judaic library and resource center at
58. 2:43shalom park
59. 2:45she graduated laude with a bs in
60. 2:48hospitality management from the
61. 2:49university of new hampshire
62. 2:51and graduated as class valedictorian
63. 2:54with an ms
64. 2:54in genocide and holocaust studies from
65. 2:57gratz college
66. 2:59tally decided to take her passion for
67. 3:00storytelling customer service
68. 3:03and empathy and pursue her lifelong
69. 3:05passion for holocaust
70. 3:07and human rights education during the
71. 3:10past decade she has traveled extensively
72. 3:12throughout eastern europe
73. 3:13and participated in numerous educational
74. 3:16opportunities
75. 3:17including the ushmm belfor conference
76. 3:20the holocaust and jewish resistance
77. 3:23teacher program
78. 3:24as well as the hillel international
79. 3:26professionals heritage study tour in
80. 3:28poland
81. 3:30she serves as an active member of the
82. 3:32north carolina council on holocaust
83. 3:34since
84. 3:352013 and serves on the executive board
85. 3:38of the association of holocaust
86. 3:39organizations
87. 3:40since january of 2019. tally also
88. 3:44co-teaches a college class
89. 3:48on preserving memory in the digital age
90. 3:50that culminates in a two-week study tour
91. 3:52in poland
92. 3:53where she leads a group in cemetery
93. 3:55restoration work
94. 3:57she considers herself a 3g as
95. 4:00all four of her grandparents are
96. 4:02holocaust survivors
97. 4:04talia's a native of jerusalem enjoys
98. 4:07traveling
99. 4:08and sharing her stories tally i'm
100. 4:10pleased to pass it over to you
101. 4:13thank you so much rachel i'm thrilled to
102. 4:15be here
103. 4:16and i am thrilled to introduce the
104. 4:18reason that we are all here to get to
105. 4:20spend some time
106. 4:21with dr edith eva eager first a huge
107. 4:25thank you to the holocaust memorial
108. 4:27resource
109. 4:28and education center of florida and
110. 4:30thank you to rachel
111. 4:31stevens serena and lisa we are thrilled
112. 4:34to join you today
113. 4:35so moving on to dr edith eva ever
114. 4:40edith is a native of hungary she was
115. 4:43just a teenager
116. 4:44in 1944 when she experienced one of the
117. 4:47worst evils the human race has ever
118. 4:50known
119. 4:51as a jew living in nazi-occupied eastern
120. 4:53europe
121. 4:54she and her family were sent to
122. 4:56auschwitz
123. 4:57it was her bravery and her uh
124. 5:01resilience that kept her and her sister
125. 5:03alive
126. 5:05towards the end of the war she was moved
127. 5:06to austria and on may 4th
128. 5:091945 she was liberated
129. 5:14after the war edith moved to
130. 5:16czechoslovakia where she met the man
131. 5:18that she would marry
132. 5:20and in 1949 she immigrated to
133. 5:23america she received numerous degrees
134. 5:26in 1969 in psychology from the
135. 5:29university of texas
136. 5:30el paso and she pursued her doctoral
137. 5:33internship at the william beaumont army
138. 5:35medical center
139. 5:36at fort lewis texas she's a prolific
140. 5:40author i have one of her books right
141. 5:42behind me in my background
142. 5:44she has an incredible new book out that
143. 5:46i highly recommend
144. 5:48that we'll discuss later and
145. 5:51she's a she has a clinical practice in
146. 5:53la jolla california where she joins us
147. 5:55today
148. 5:56and she holds a faculty appointment at
149. 5:58the university of california
150. 5:59san diego she's appeared on numerous
151. 6:02television programs cnn
152. 6:04the oprah winfrey show and she was the
153. 6:07primary subject
154. 6:08of a holocaust documentary that appeared
155. 6:10on dutch
156. 6:11national television i am extremely
157. 6:14fortunate that i've had the opportunity
158. 6:16to spend time with her
159. 6:18last year and early this year and the
160. 6:21lessons that i learned from edie will
161. 6:23stay with me
162. 6:24forever and a quick shameless plug that
163. 6:27in
164. 6:27april of 2021 we will be releasing
165. 6:30a documentary that shares many of her
166. 6:34stories with the world and without
167. 6:35further ado i would love to
168. 6:37welcome dr edith eva eager
169. 6:42thank you so so much as you were
170. 6:46introducing me it reminded me that
171. 6:49i was on the advisory committee for
172. 6:52the veterans administration and as such
173. 6:56i would go to washington
174. 6:58and every morning we would pass the
175. 7:00holocaust museum
176. 7:02and i said to myself i've been there
177. 7:04done that
178. 7:05but after six years i arrived in
179. 7:09on sunday and i thought okay well maybe
180. 7:12it's time
181. 7:13so i went to the holocaust museum i
182. 7:15don't know if you've been there
183. 7:17but they they take you to the fourth
184. 7:20floor
185. 7:21and i was looking for the gis because i
186. 7:24was liberated
187. 7:26by the 71st infantry and you know what i
188. 7:29found
189. 7:30a man who liberated me
190. 7:34uh recently recently just now
191. 7:38on 60 minutes and
192. 7:41and so we have a wonderful relationship
193. 7:44and
194. 7:44he was 18 and i was 17 when we were
195. 7:48liberated
196. 7:49so i uh i like to also tell you
197. 7:53that it's very important
198. 7:56especially when i speak to the military
199. 7:59and the churches as well that
200. 8:03unfortunately genocide is still
201. 8:06with us as we speak but never
202. 8:10in the history of mankind such a
203. 8:13scientific
204. 8:14and systematic annihilation of people
205. 8:17existed
206. 8:18when 15 highly educated people
207. 8:22that comes from highly educated people i
208. 8:24must say that
209. 8:26because i'm very interested what
210. 8:29teachers are teaching
211. 8:31not what to think but how to think
212. 8:34and to question authority i like
213. 8:37young people and i want to be a good
214. 8:39role model to them
215. 8:41so what happened that after one day
216. 8:45they celebrated they can put 30
217. 8:49000 jewish people into the oven in one
218. 8:52day and i am part of that final
219. 8:56solution of eichmann
220. 8:59so just that for the introduction
221. 9:02and yes i was 16 years old i was
222. 9:05in love my boyfriend and i were going to
223. 9:09go to palestine
224. 9:11and we belong to the bataar and we're
225. 9:14gonna go
226. 9:14and fight and we're gonna go to israel
227. 9:18and we had this enthusiasm we had
228. 9:21meaning
229. 9:22in our lives unfortunately he was killed
230. 9:25a day
231. 9:26before liberation so i'm 93 years old i
232. 9:30have three children
233. 9:32five grandchildren and seven great
234. 9:34grandsons
235. 9:36and that's my best revenge to hitler
236. 9:39that was beautiful edie and i will
237. 9:41mention that the
238. 9:43um liberator who you recently met will
239. 9:46also be part of the documentaries you'll
240. 9:48have a chance to see edie interact with
241. 9:50uh with the liberator which is
242. 9:52remarkable so we want to focus
243. 9:54on the current day because edie always
244. 9:57looks forward but for a moment i'd love
245. 9:59to take a lens
246. 10:00looking backwards and i'd love for you
247. 10:02to share a little bit
248. 10:04about your childhood in hungary your
249. 10:06parents and siblings
250. 10:08and then how things changed rapidly
251. 10:12in your life at that young age
252. 10:15i have this disbelief
253. 10:19feeling or faith that maybe god
254. 10:23makes a decision about the kind of
255. 10:26life we're going to be put here into
256. 10:29this world for it's kind of planting a
257. 10:33seed
258. 10:34and then how i will watch it grow that's
259. 10:37why i tell people
260. 10:38are you a good mommy to you because just
261. 10:41how frog is self-care you know that
262. 10:44you've got to really see everything
263. 10:46begins with you we're born alone we die
264. 10:49and
265. 10:50there's something in between birth and
266. 10:52that called
267. 10:53life and that do you live a lifestyle
268. 10:56that means
269. 10:57you get up in the morning you look in
270. 10:59the mirror you honor yourself
271. 11:02and then and you decide the kind of day
272. 11:05that you will have because what you
273. 11:07think
274. 11:08you create so i was born into a very
275. 11:12talented family
276. 11:13my parents had two beautiful girls and
277. 11:16of course i
278. 11:17wanted a son and i came along
279. 11:21and i think god put me in that family
280. 11:25because my two sisters blindfolded me
281. 11:28when they took me for a walk because i
282. 11:31became
283. 11:32cross-side when i was three years old
284. 11:35my mother looked at me very seriously
285. 11:38and said
286. 11:38i quote i'm glad that you have brains
287. 11:42because you have no looks
288. 11:44so i tell i get the reason i'm telling
289. 11:47you that i'm not angry at my mom
290. 11:50but we do carry with us sometimes the
291. 11:52message is
292. 11:53that we we received in our
293. 11:56childhood and then believe what we
294. 11:58learned
295. 12:00um you can rewrite your script you know
296. 12:03and uh i am telling you my mom
297. 12:07gave me an opportunity to become a very
298. 12:10highly and very educated teenager i have
299. 12:14my own book club
300. 12:16and here i am now dr edith eva eager
301. 12:20at the university of
302. 12:23school i i
303. 12:27now guide the residents
304. 12:31these are 30 residents and the subject
305. 12:34is
306. 12:35now dying and
307. 12:39and i think we die the way we live
308. 12:42and it's very good this time to be
309. 12:45interested
310. 12:46more in loving than being loved
311. 12:51and so i hope that my talk today will
312. 12:54give you an opportunity to give
313. 12:56to the claim you would in a sense as i
314. 13:00did when i returned to auschwitz
315. 13:02tell us a little bit edie about your
316. 13:04mother we'd love to hear about your
317. 13:06mother and your sisters
318. 13:07and the process that that unfortunately
319. 13:10changed
320. 13:10your existence at that time
321. 13:14my mother helped me to read going with
322. 13:16the wind
323. 13:18so today i'm going to tell you are you a
324. 13:22perfectionist
325. 13:23and if you are you're going to
326. 13:25procrastinate
327. 13:27and it reminds me of
328. 13:31in going with the wind when she said
329. 13:34uh
330. 13:38you know it's the war that and people
331. 13:41are killing each other
332. 13:43and she says i'll think about it
333. 13:46tomorrow
334. 13:48so if you procrastinate
335. 13:51chances are you want to look at whether
336. 13:53you are the perfectionist
337. 13:55that means you have to do everything
338. 13:57just right
339. 13:58and my granddaughter did that and she
340. 14:01was in a very
341. 14:02special class when the iq started at 145
342. 14:06and then she was erasing everything
343. 14:11a million times and the teacher called
344. 14:14her
345. 14:14while that little red caboose
346. 14:17and so she was ready to leave the class
347. 14:21because she didn't think that she was
348. 14:26able to cut the mustard in this class
349. 14:30and this is the first time i told
350. 14:34my precious lindsay about auschwitz
351. 14:37and what i have discovered and not to
352. 14:40allow a teacher
353. 14:42to define who she was that she's
354. 14:44beautiful
355. 14:45so when she went to high school
356. 14:48and was time to write for colleges
357. 14:51she wrote her autobiography and the
358. 14:54title was
359. 14:56when the engine be and then when the
360. 15:00uh caboose became an engine
361. 15:04and so i i love to work with young
362. 15:07people
363. 15:08they are the future and i keep telling
364. 15:11them that they
365. 15:12are the the ambassadors for peace
366. 15:17and so my mom was
367. 15:21teaching me a lot uh she took me to the
368. 15:25opera
369. 15:26and uh in the kettle car
370. 15:29she hugged me and she said
371. 15:32and i quote her when especially speak to
372. 15:35the children
373. 15:37she said honey we don't know where we're
374. 15:39going
375. 15:40we don't know what's going to happen
376. 15:42just remember
377. 15:44no one can take away from you what you
378. 15:46put here in your own mind
379. 15:48and that's exactly what happened
380. 15:51everything was taken away from me
381. 15:53except i had my sister and i had my mind
382. 15:58magda my father was a tailor
383. 16:02who became a couturier and she looked at
384. 16:06me
385. 16:06and said when you grow up you're going
386. 16:10to be the best dressed kid in town
387. 16:13and guess what i am
388. 16:19yes i am i am i am
389. 16:22you know the dress that i took to
390. 16:25auschwitz with me
391. 16:27i have a picture of it it had two bows
392. 16:31on it and then it was time for dr
393. 16:35mengele to go to the left and go to the
394. 16:38right
395. 16:39i know he took a little while to watch
396. 16:42my pose
397. 16:43and i always wondered is this that maybe
398. 16:46he decided that
399. 16:48maybe maybe i just sent here to leave i
400. 16:51don't know
401. 16:52i don't know but i've been thinking a
402. 16:55great deal
403. 16:56about how can i tell people
404. 17:00about not recovery but discovery
405. 17:04tell us about your discovery at
406. 17:06auschwitz what happened when you arrived
407. 17:08there and who you were with
408. 17:10and then the discoveries that you made
409. 17:11during your time there
410. 17:13i i since i'm a teacher you know i study
411. 17:16a
412. 17:17and han selig got the nobel prize
413. 17:22about the stress studies that anything
414. 17:25stressful that happens to us
415. 17:28we have two automatic responses be there
416. 17:30fight or flee
417. 17:32when i arrived in the other side called
418. 17:35viet canal
419. 17:40it didn't work because if you touch the
420. 17:43guards you were shot and many many girls
421. 17:47were shot right in front of me
422. 17:50so to fight it didn't work to flee
423. 17:53didn't work either because if you
424. 17:55touched the ward wires
425. 17:56you were electrocuted and yes i saw the
426. 18:00bodies so what i'm bringing to you today
427. 18:05to find out actually what my ballet
428. 18:09master told me that god built me in such
429. 18:13a
430. 18:14magnificent way he said to me all
431. 18:17ecstasy
432. 18:18comes from within you and i thought
433. 18:21what is that word i never understood
434. 18:24that word
435. 18:25but i discovered that when nothing comes
436. 18:28from the outside
437. 18:29you discover your inner resources
438. 18:32and the more you suffer
439. 18:36the stronger you become
440. 18:39and that's what i bring you to be able
441. 18:42to
442. 18:43think about your thinking and pay
443. 18:46attention
444. 18:47what you're paying attention to and this
445. 18:50is december this
446. 18:51is the time uh to make a plan
447. 18:55what you're gonna take with you for next
448. 18:57year what you're gonna leave behind
449. 19:00jewish people have a wonderful way to
450. 19:03really celebrate life by knowing
451. 19:07that our ancestors didn't have it as
452. 19:10good as we did
453. 19:13and they never gave up i carried that
454. 19:16blood
455. 19:17i carried that blood especially in young
456. 19:20people
457. 19:21to tell them look at your birth
458. 19:23certificate
459. 19:24life is not easy there is no guarantee
460. 19:27there
461. 19:27is no certainty that is probability
462. 19:33thank you how long were you in the
463. 19:35birkenau camp
464. 19:37and during that time what are some of
465. 19:38the personal lessons that you took
466. 19:40from that period i
467. 19:44i think what was unfortunately
468. 19:48that we experienced today too that we
469. 19:51didn't know what's going to happen
470. 19:53next when i took a shower
471. 19:57when i took a shower we didn't know
472. 20:00whether
473. 20:00uh water is it's gonna come out or gas
474. 20:04four o'clock in the morning we stood and
475. 20:07uh
476. 20:08and um and um
477. 20:11we didn't know what's going to happen
478. 20:14today
479. 20:15my sister meg there was the pretty one
480. 20:17in the family
481. 20:19my sister clara was the child prodigy
482. 20:22many people didn't even know i existed
483. 20:26so when we're completely shaven my
484. 20:29beautiful magda looked at me and said
485. 20:33how do i look hungarian women are very
486. 20:37vain i want you to know that too
487. 20:39so i had a choice then i like to bring
488. 20:42the bed and then
489. 20:43to the here and now because anything i
490. 20:46say i lived it so
491. 20:49i had a choice as you had now whether
492. 20:52you pay attention what you lost
493. 20:54or what is still there
494. 20:59so magda was there with the ball head
495. 21:02and i told her i realized i am hermit
496. 21:07i said to her mother you have beautiful
497. 21:09eyes
498. 21:10and you know what i did see it when you
499. 21:12had your hair all over the place
500. 21:15so today i asked people if you say
501. 21:17anything to anyone
502. 21:19ask yourselves which people are very
503. 21:21good at talking to themselves
504. 21:23uh ask yourself
505. 21:26is it kind is it really important is it
506. 21:30necessary
507. 21:32because god gave us two ears and one
508. 21:35mouth
509. 21:36so we can listen more and talk less
510. 21:41and so that's how we entered our shreds
511. 21:45can you tell us about the in the
512. 21:48interaction with
513. 21:49dr mengele i was just going to tell you
514. 21:52that
515. 21:53he came to the barracks and wanted to
516. 21:55know
517. 21:56who can entertain him and the girls who
518. 21:59knew me well
519. 22:01i was the one who danced the hungarian
520. 22:04shardash for the president who came 40
521. 22:09so they just drew me in front of him and
522. 22:12he says dance for me
523. 22:15and i closed my eyes
524. 22:18and i pretended that the music was
525. 22:20tchaikovsky
526. 22:21and i was dancing the romaine juliet at
527. 22:24the budapest opera
528. 22:26house i can still picture myself now and
529. 22:29i knew the routine
530. 22:30and i start with a high kick i can still
531. 22:33do the high kick for you
532. 22:35i start with a high kick and i
533. 22:38go up with my left foot and i go down
534. 22:41to a split right away you know and he
535. 22:44just was
536. 22:46very very taken by the way
537. 22:50i was dancing and i was dancing for my
538. 22:53life
539. 22:55and so i was begging guys banging one
540. 22:58god please
541. 22:59don't don't be choose me to be the next
542. 23:02one
543. 23:03because he was choosing who to take to
544. 23:05the gas chamber
545. 23:07and so you never knew what's going to
546. 23:09happen
547. 23:10next so instead of fight or flee
548. 23:13we had to learn how to accept
549. 23:17and and and and i said to myself if i
550. 23:22survived today
551. 23:23then tomorrow i'll be free i'm gonna
552. 23:26meet my boyfriend and
553. 23:30i'm going to meet my boyfriend and i'm
554. 23:32going to show him
555. 23:34because he told me i have beautiful eyes
556. 23:36and i have beautiful hands
557. 23:39and dr michael when i was done he gave
558. 23:42me a piece of bread
559. 23:45now i had a choice then to get the bread
560. 23:48and and garble it up
561. 23:51but you know what thank god i climbed up
562. 23:54i was on the top
563. 23:55and i shared my bread and all i can tell
564. 23:59you when i was in a death march
565. 24:02going from uh from
566. 24:05uh in austria um mud house
567. 24:08from mount house and to gunt kirchen
568. 24:11when you stopped you were
569. 24:12shot i revisited that place every place
570. 24:16including auschwitz and uh
571. 24:19and i was about to stop
572. 24:22and you know the girls that i shared the
573. 24:24bread with
574. 24:26they came and they formed a chat with
575. 24:28their
576. 24:29arms i'm gonna show it to you and they
577. 24:32carried me
578. 24:33so i wouldn't die all we had was each
579. 24:36other
580. 24:37then and all we have is each other now
581. 24:45beautiful thank you can you share a
582. 24:47little bit about the liberation you
583. 24:48mentioned the death march
584. 24:51tell us a little bit about liberation
585. 24:55yes my liberation
586. 24:58has surely uh when i was an oprah
587. 25:03um and she asked me
588. 25:07and i said you know i was among the dead
589. 25:10and somehow i felt a hand
590. 25:14somebody is is touching my hand
591. 25:17and i looked up and i saw a big lip
592. 25:22and i never saw a man of color
593. 25:25so she looked up too and she said
594. 25:29was he black yes
595. 25:34and then i saw tears in the eye and
596. 25:37eminem's in the hand
597. 25:39today when i go to schools they give me
598. 25:43a lot of
599. 25:44m m's my closet is filled
600. 25:47with eminem's don't send me eminem's
601. 25:50please
602. 25:52and and that's how i was liberated what
603. 25:56is important
604. 25:58as a psychologist i tell you
605. 26:03that we were liberated
606. 26:07and i studied with eric from i always
607. 26:11went to the originals
608. 26:13and he has a wonderful book escape from
609. 26:16freedom
610. 26:18see when you're free you're responsible
611. 26:23and we were free and we would go through
612. 26:26the gate
613. 26:28i didn't because i was too weak but i
614. 26:31was observing
615. 26:33people coming back and sitting down
616. 26:37and this is dr seligman's literature and
617. 26:41positive psychology
618. 26:43that is called the learned helplessness
619. 26:47and when i was helping wedded wives
620. 26:50to build transitional living centers
621. 26:53this is what i found out that the
622. 26:55husband brainwashes his wife
623. 26:58that without him she is nothing and she
624. 27:01believes it
625. 27:04so he beats her she leaves and anywhere
626. 27:08from seven
627. 27:08to 15 times she keeps coming back
628. 27:13so you have to question authority
629. 27:16rather than ever blindly adhere to
630. 27:19authority ahmadi jidad said
631. 27:23that the holocaust did not exist
632. 27:28i don't think he read plato
633. 27:33and plato said remember i told you i was
634. 27:36a very early teenager
635. 27:38i read plato and he said you have to
636. 27:41think of a lie
637. 27:43and it has to be a big one and then you
638. 27:46repeat it
639. 27:46repeat it until people believe it
640. 27:50question authority are bang young people
641. 27:55rather than ever blindly adhering to
642. 28:00authority
643. 28:02there's a book by adorno that's called
644. 28:05the authoritarian personality
645. 28:08and he talks about the california f
646. 28:11scale
647. 28:12f stands for fascist and he believed
648. 28:15that small town usa
649. 28:17is right for fascism because they
650. 28:20blindly adhere
651. 28:22to authority so our biggest enemy
652. 28:26is really very important
653. 28:29to um to have
654. 28:34a way of thinking that you blindly
655. 28:37adhere to authority
656. 28:39rather than question authority
657. 28:44edith i wanted to ask you about your you
658. 28:47mentioned that you returned
659. 28:48back to the various locations and i know
660. 28:51that was a very
661. 28:52transformative experience many survivors
662. 28:54do not choose to go back
663. 28:56can you tell us about your decision to
664. 28:58go back and what you
665. 29:00uh learned during that during that
666. 29:02period during that trip
667. 29:04yes uh actually uh i was beginning to
668. 29:08work with
669. 29:09post-traumatic stress disorder it's not
670. 29:12a disorder it's a reaction to a loss
671. 29:15you know it's it's grief it's and we
672. 29:18pathologize too much
673. 29:20but i had these two paraplegics and one
674. 29:23of
675. 29:24them would be in a kind of a fetal
676. 29:26position why me
677. 29:27why me and blaming blaming
678. 29:31god country and conversely
679. 29:36people sent to god sends people my way
680. 29:40i think they don't come to me you were
681. 29:42sent to me too
682. 29:44the other one is in a wheelchair and he
683. 29:46says the following
684. 29:48hey doc i am the luckiest
685. 29:52man i am in a wheelchair
686. 29:56and now i can see my children's eyes
687. 29:59much closer
688. 30:01i can see the flowers
689. 30:04and i'm there with a white coat
690. 30:09and it says dr eager department of
691. 30:12psychiatry
692. 30:14and i am feeling like the biggest
693. 30:18imposter in the world
694. 30:21i went to school i went to school i went
695. 30:23to school i
696. 30:24became a diplomat and this that because
697. 30:28i told them the further i ran away the
698. 30:31more i'm going to forget that
699. 30:34and that's when i decided to go back to
700. 30:36auschwitz
701. 30:38knowing that i cannot take them further
702. 30:41than i have gone myself
703. 30:44so if i wish i could meet those two
704. 30:46vietnam veterans
705. 30:48that gave me the idea
706. 30:52that i must give myself permission
707. 30:56to go back to their clients then and
708. 30:58look at the lion in the face
709. 31:00and reclaim my innocence and assign the
710. 31:03shame and give to the perpetrator
711. 31:06you cannot have peace until you go
712. 31:08through the rage
713. 31:10so don't cover garlic with chocolate it
714. 31:13doesn't take
715. 31:14i know it doesn't do you any good so
716. 31:17when i asked my mag dad to come with me
717. 31:20because i wanted to honor my mother
718. 31:23because exactly what happened what she
719. 31:25told me
720. 31:27and i told her you know we lost our
721. 31:29family and we never went to a funeral
722. 31:32and she told me i'm an idiot and i'm a
723. 31:35masochist
724. 31:37we went through the same experience so
725. 31:40there is a difference between reacting
726. 31:43or responding
727. 31:47if someone tells you you you're gonna be
728. 31:50dumped on
729. 31:51that's what i teach children that's what
730. 31:53the bully does you are stupid you you
731. 31:56you
732. 31:56the minute you hear the word you you
733. 31:59take a deep breath
734. 32:01and take relaxation and say to yourself
735. 32:05the more they talk the more relaxed i
736. 32:07become
737. 32:08you take the negative stimuli
738. 32:10immediately turn it into positive
739. 32:12and the longer they talk the more you
740. 32:16practice
741. 32:16your low frustration tolerance level
742. 32:20so i'm not a shrink i'm a stretch
743. 32:23and i'm stretching your comfort zone
744. 32:26today
745. 32:27knowing that this is temporary
746. 32:31you don't have to like it you don't have
747. 32:35to be
748. 32:36really anything other than telling
749. 32:38yourself
750. 32:39i don't like it it's inconvenient and
751. 32:42it's temporary and i can't survive it
752. 32:45so give me the butt and i give you an
753. 32:47end
754. 32:49yes and fedora yes and rather than
755. 32:52yes but i don't know if your mother ever
756. 32:55told you that you're a beautiful girl
757. 32:58but you're fat and but you're pimply
758. 33:03what happens when you say but
759. 33:07you only think of what you hear after
760. 33:10the birth
761. 33:11so i tell especially parents don't say
762. 33:13yes but
763. 33:15or your husband
764. 33:18men like compliments and the best thing
765. 33:21is to watch filler in a room
766. 33:23when she knows that the husband needs to
767. 33:27know
768. 33:28that he is the head of the family and he
769. 33:31makes all the decisions
770. 33:33in this family and guess who does she
771. 33:36doesn't have any ego needs she doesn't
772. 33:39compete
773. 33:40uh or dominate she
774. 33:44cooperates and works alongside of the
775. 33:47man
776. 33:48and that's what the pioneer women did in
777. 33:50america
778. 33:53they went together as a team
779. 33:57and i like the modern marriages when
780. 34:00they both get up in the morning
781. 34:02and they both cook together and
782. 34:06wash the car together and they work as a
783. 34:09team
784. 34:10all my i have two daughters
785. 34:13and myself we are i
786. 34:16am a working mother
787. 34:20children don't do what we say they do
788. 34:22what they see
789. 34:25i beg man not to ever raise his voice
790. 34:31because the child suffers from ptsd
791. 34:35the child startles i do
792. 34:38i still do i see a man in uniform
793. 34:42i i was stopped and given a ticket
794. 34:45and a 25-mile zone i i drove 40 miles
795. 34:51and i looked at the policeman and i
796. 34:55begged him not to give me a ticket
797. 34:58and and he gave me a ticket and you know
798. 35:00what
799. 35:01i collapsed and there were two policemen
800. 35:05and none of them helped me to get up
801. 35:09and i told my daughter a beautiful
802. 35:11brilliant psychologist
803. 35:13what happened and you know what she said
804. 35:17mother it's only money
805. 35:21it wasn't the money so you see people
806. 35:25say to me you overcame no i did not
807. 35:29i'm reminded almost every day
808. 35:32i went to have steak and i was
809. 35:36on cobblestones immediately i saw the
810. 35:39picture
811. 35:39of children who were spitting at us as
812. 35:42we were walking
813. 35:45and calling us pigs so don't
814. 35:48know i don't know that word overcome i
815. 35:51came to terms with it
816. 36:02i can tell you i was definitely sent to
817. 36:04you and i quote you
818. 36:05all the time one of my absolute favorite
819. 36:07lines that you say
820. 36:09that i tell my husband on a daily basis
821. 36:12is
822. 36:13would you be married to you that was my
823. 36:16pearls of wisdom one of the best
824. 36:18atheisms that i have i love that
825. 36:20so i wanted to and the other one is when
826. 36:23they do childhood ends
827. 36:26exactly i wanted to focus a little bit
828. 36:29on the period after the war on you
829. 36:32arriving back
830. 36:33arriving to america you're having
831. 36:36children
832. 36:37and i want to incorporate into this one
833. 36:38of the questions that came in
834. 36:41if you can talk a little bit about
835. 36:43intergenerational trauma
836. 36:45and how survivors pass on or don't pass
837. 36:49on some of this trauma on a cellular
838. 36:51level
839. 36:52to the next generation yes
840. 36:56if you are a child of a survivor
841. 37:00i had a two-year-old little girl
842. 37:03the two-year-old little girl becomes the
843. 37:06parent's
844. 37:06parent she introduces you to peanut
845. 37:10butter
846. 37:11she introduces you to tuna fish that
847. 37:15you never saw before and most of all she
848. 37:19teaches you
849. 37:20how to or he teaches you how to speak
850. 37:23english
851. 37:24and uh i so my little girl
852. 37:28did that and guess what
853. 37:32we were very very poor i worked in a
854. 37:34factory doing piecework
855. 37:37for seven cents a dozen so the faster i
856. 37:40worked
857. 37:41the the more seven cents i got
858. 37:45and my husband ended up in a tb hospital
859. 37:49and it was in november when she came
860. 37:53from the wonderful mrs bower
861. 37:57a christian woman who took marion in and
862. 38:00no charge
863. 38:01and she said you have to buy it a turkey
864. 38:04because thanksgiving is coming up
865. 38:07so what we learned survivors
866. 38:10is what to say or what not to say
867. 38:14to the child i didn't say to marianne
868. 38:17that i don't
869. 38:18think i can buy a turkey because i don't
870. 38:22have the money
871. 38:24but i became a dancer and i went to a
872. 38:27grocery store called schreiber
873. 38:30i don't know whether they were jewish or
874. 38:32german or both i don't know
875. 38:34but i know that i i i know the guy
876. 38:38was looking over me because i was
877. 38:41checking out the prize
878. 38:44so i passed the turkish and finally
879. 38:47find a leader it's in my book
880. 38:51a little chicken the smallest chicken
881. 38:54and i gave him my money and he took 25
882. 38:57cents
883. 38:58and four pennies and people tell me you
884. 39:01couldn't buy a chicken for 29 cents
885. 39:04i bought a chicken and i know it was 29
886. 39:07cents
887. 39:07in 1949 the thing that also happened
888. 39:12unfortunately
889. 39:14that i survived nazi germany
890. 39:18communist russia and i came to america
891. 39:21and when i went to the bathroom one of
892. 39:23them said
893. 39:24colored that was a discovery
894. 39:29don't forget the story about the turkey
895. 39:31finish the story about the talk okay
896. 39:34the third key uh
897. 39:37story is that i
898. 39:40took a bus and then another bus
899. 39:44and another bus to go home to the
900. 39:48to the backyard of a home
901. 39:51that had a maids room where we lived
902. 39:54that was our home
903. 39:56and the people were jewish and they
904. 39:59called us greener
905. 40:00greener you know and they were telling
906. 40:03me how
907. 40:04how to um how to
908. 40:09make a cake they didn't realize that i
909. 40:12had the most
910. 40:13wonderful astro hungarian pastry at home
911. 40:17so you know they they put us in a box
912. 40:20you know the greener and so
913. 40:23anyway i did my choreography and and
914. 40:26and i came in fired up totally fired up
915. 40:30like i'm fired up now and i did the high
916. 40:34kick and i said guess what
917. 40:35we're gonna have a baby turkey
918. 40:39and she went back to school i had a baby
919. 40:41okay
920. 40:42say she didn't know we were poor and i
921. 40:45went into
922. 40:47i went into a boutique shop
923. 40:52see my father was the tailor who became
924. 40:56a couturier and told me when i grew up
925. 41:00i'll be the best dress gown in town
926. 41:04and that's very true i do wear designers
927. 41:08clothes
928. 41:09but my little girl wore designers
929. 41:12clothes too
930. 41:14because i told the owner if you
931. 41:19go down to 75 because i saw you have
932. 41:2375 i want you to save it for me
933. 41:28i never wanted my little girl to look
934. 41:31poor even in high school i bought her
935. 41:35pendleton skirts i remember that
936. 41:39because i didn't want her to to not
937. 41:42look like the best dressed girl in that
938. 41:45classroom
939. 41:46i i i wanted to assimilate
940. 41:50too much because i didn't tell my
941. 41:53children
942. 41:55about auschwitz at all
943. 41:59until i read men's search for meaning by
944. 42:01viktor
945. 42:02frankl and when i read that book i
946. 42:06wanted to write 10 pages
947. 42:08and i became a diplomate i did a 90th
948. 42:12birthday
949. 42:12a keynote speech for victor franco
950. 42:17and and
951. 42:20for many years people asked me to write
952. 42:22a book and i would say
953. 42:24i have nothing to say i have nothing to
954. 42:26say
955. 42:27until philip zimbardo from stanford told
956. 42:31me
957. 42:32i tell you what the survivors
958. 42:36who are famous are all men we need the
959. 42:40female voice
960. 42:42and i am the female voice of victor
961. 42:45franco
962. 42:46in the choice
963. 42:49wonderful and tell us about the other
964. 42:52project that you have besides the choice
965. 42:54which we all cherish and love
966. 42:56tell us about your new project that
967. 42:58you're working on and then we have a few
968. 42:59questions that have come in that i'll
969. 43:01ask you
970. 43:02the gift the gift the gift came
971. 43:05because i have beautiful beautiful
972. 43:09people
973. 43:09all over the world who said to me
974. 43:13you're not done we need another book
975. 43:15that is practical
976. 43:18tell us what we can do and that's
977. 43:21how the gift was born
978. 43:25i give you 12 i was gonna give you 24
979. 43:29and then i decided 12 is enough
980. 43:32but if you want anything more i am full
981. 43:36of it
982. 43:36i uh i'm still studying i have yet to
983. 43:40arrive
984. 43:41i'm still in a climbing the mountain
985. 43:44and i never stop climbing
986. 43:48we love that message that's perfect can
987. 43:50you tell us a little bit about your
988. 43:52philosophy
989. 43:52on forgiveness and if this has helped
990. 43:55you you helped your patients
991. 43:58i actually adhere to the hasidic
992. 44:00philosophy
993. 44:02that you look at everything from the
994. 44:05positive perspective
995. 44:07and and this is what i
996. 44:10practice to be a realist rather than an
997. 44:14idealist and forgiveness to me
998. 44:18is not me forgiving you
999. 44:22i don't have any godly powers just don't
1000. 44:25even think about that
1001. 44:27i think forgiveness is a gift that i
1002. 44:30give myself
1003. 44:32because if i would live in the fear and
1004. 44:35the
1005. 44:36hate i would still be a prisoner
1006. 44:39of the past so i think i spell selfish
1007. 44:43with a self-dash ish i want
1008. 44:47my true self that i would never be the
1009. 44:50hostage
1010. 44:51or a prisoner of the past i never forget
1011. 44:54what happened
1012. 44:55i don't overcome it i came to terms with
1013. 44:58it
1014. 44:59and i call it my cherished wound
1015. 45:04what took me was left in auschwitz it's
1016. 45:07not the better part
1017. 45:08i assure you but i think of that little
1018. 45:12girl
1019. 45:14who's grieving not what happened but
1020. 45:16what didn't happen
1021. 45:23beautiful i'd love to hear your thoughts
1022. 45:25on what you would say to people
1023. 45:28who think that the holocaust is a jewish
1024. 45:30problem
1025. 45:31instead of a human problem
1026. 45:36yeah well you know when i went to jewish
1027. 45:40schools as a child
1028. 45:43and we came out of the school
1029. 45:47children were spitting at me and they
1030. 45:50called me a christ killer
1031. 45:53that was before hitler
1032. 45:58i hated christmas
1033. 46:01i hated christmas and i did not know
1034. 46:04that jesus was a poor jewish boy
1035. 46:09i didn't know any of that ever
1036. 46:12so it's very very important
1037. 46:16that we all come perhaps from the house
1038. 46:19of david
1039. 46:20and we we go back to the originals
1040. 46:25and what happened
1041. 46:28as you know that when
1042. 46:32the jews were on the desert
1043. 46:36i think of 40 years that it took them
1044. 46:41to go to that promised land and they
1045. 46:44never gave up
1046. 46:46and that's the blood i carry never ever
1047. 46:50to give up
1048. 46:51and then from that
1049. 46:55came the state of israel
1050. 47:01and that's what we have now you know
1051. 47:04what
1052. 47:04if you go to israel to the old age homes
1053. 47:08people are smoking but
1054. 47:11they have the best part it's not
1055. 47:15turning you on it's helping with your
1056. 47:18arthritis
1057. 47:19and your pain yeah
1058. 47:22we are the originals even even
1059. 47:26anything nobel prize winners
1060. 47:31just look at the nobel prize winner
1061. 47:36the majority
1062. 47:39i wanted to ask you about um your
1063. 47:42decision to share your story so as you
1064. 47:44know
1065. 47:45my grandparents did not share their
1066. 47:47story
1067. 47:48and for a long time you didn't as well
1068. 47:51and then you had a relationship you had
1069. 47:53a connection
1070. 47:54to victor frankel and his book man
1071. 47:57search for meaning
1072. 47:58can you tell us a little bit about his
1073. 48:00influence on your work
1074. 48:02and your relationship
1075. 48:07my life have changed actually i was at
1076. 48:10the university of texas and
1077. 48:13and someone somehow found out that
1078. 48:17i was in auschwitz and said you know you
1079. 48:20got to read this book
1080. 48:22and so i went home it was in the middle
1081. 48:25of the night i was always in the library
1082. 48:28i graduated comrade myself
1083. 48:31and but i never showed up for my
1084. 48:33graduation
1085. 48:34because i said to myself that i don't
1086. 48:37deserve it because i'm alive
1087. 48:40i had tremendous survivors scared
1088. 48:43so have you ever read a book that you
1089. 48:45wanted to get 10 more pages for everyone
1090. 48:49so i actually wrote
1091. 48:53a little article and there were positive
1092. 48:58psychology
1093. 48:59people published it and someone sent it
1094. 49:03that to victor franco and i got a letter
1095. 49:08from vienna says victor franco
1096. 49:12wants to get to know me and we met in
1097. 49:15san diego at the international
1098. 49:18university and that's how
1099. 49:21i became a diplomat in logotherapy
1100. 49:25i even demonstrated him and reagan's
1101. 49:28bird guy
1102. 49:31he was 90 years old i did a keynote
1103. 49:34address
1104. 49:35at the logo therapy conference and and
1105. 49:38so he i tell you
1106. 49:41um as the most wonderful man
1107. 49:46that i admired he was climbing the
1108. 49:49mountains to the arabs
1109. 49:51in his seventies and when i met him he
1110. 49:54was taking
1111. 49:55flying lessons in his seventies amazing
1112. 49:58really truly a renaissance man
1113. 50:02thank you beautiful thank you i want you
1114. 50:06i want you to know that for many many
1115. 50:08people on this call
1116. 50:09and in your community of thousands of
1117. 50:11followers
1118. 50:13you are their inspiration and you are
1119. 50:15the one that they turn to and they want
1120. 50:16more pages
1121. 50:17of your book so i want to personally
1122. 50:20thank you for so much of your
1123. 50:22dedication and sharing your story and i
1124. 50:24always like to leave
1125. 50:26the last word to you giving your
1126. 50:29message to the audience here and to many
1127. 50:32generations who will hopefully get to
1128. 50:34hear
1129. 50:34your incredible wisdom and atheism that
1130. 50:37i use on a daily basis
1131. 50:40what can you tell us about how you live
1132. 50:42your daily life that we can use as
1133. 50:44inspiration because you are very
1134. 50:46inspiring
1135. 50:49there are three things that i do every
1136. 50:52day with my patients and with myself as
1137. 50:56well
1138. 50:57is grieving feeling and healing
1139. 51:01i have yet to arrive i climb and i sleep
1140. 51:04and i climb and i sleep and i will never
1141. 51:08stop climbing i don't believe in
1142. 51:10retirement
1143. 51:12i don't care about the chronological age
1144. 51:16that just numbers it's gonna happen
1145. 51:19anyway
1146. 51:20i have a very very hopeful attitude
1147. 51:24and i discovered that how to actually
1148. 51:28change hatred into pity
1149. 51:32and uh so there are two things i
1150. 51:36live in a present i can only touch you
1151. 51:39now
1152. 51:40so i hope that you can risk and maybe
1153. 51:43tell
1154. 51:44someone that you like to get to know
1155. 51:46them
1156. 51:47and they may tell you that they're not
1157. 51:49interested just remember
1158. 51:52a rejection is an english word that
1159. 51:55people make up
1160. 51:56to express a feeling when you don't get
1161. 51:59what you want
1162. 52:00it's all in your expectation so do not
1163. 52:03take
1164. 52:04things personally if anything if
1165. 52:06somebody calls your name
1166. 52:08all you have to do put an eye in front
1167. 52:10of it and they usually are talking about
1168. 52:12themselves
1169. 52:13and just say thank you a lot of thank
1170. 52:16yous i say a lot of thank you
1171. 52:19thank you for your opinion thank you for
1172. 52:21your input
1173. 52:22i don't deny someone else's throat
1174. 52:26i would not tell armando that you're
1175. 52:29wrong
1176. 52:30because his mind is already made up and
1177. 52:34and he didn't read later
1178. 52:37so i i just don't judge
1179. 52:40other people i i hope we can
1180. 52:44recognize that the most obnoxious person
1181. 52:47is your best teacher
1182. 52:50and i took care of a 14 year old white
1183. 52:53supremacy boy
1184. 52:55and he never knew where i came from
1185. 53:00and never knew my history
1186. 53:05because he told me that it's time for
1187. 53:08america to be white again
1188. 53:10and he's gonna kill all the jews
1189. 53:13and then over there using the n-word and
1190. 53:16the cincos
1191. 53:17and the muskins that was in texas
1192. 53:21and i just told him tell me more because
1193. 53:24god
1194. 53:25i ask god what do i do with that god
1195. 53:30you send me people and god told me
1196. 53:33find the bigot in you
1197. 53:36and i told god it's impossible
1198. 53:40i joined the naacp i marched with martin
1199. 53:43luther king
1200. 53:44you know i kept going and god said find
1201. 53:47a bigot in you
1202. 53:50and then i looked at that little boy who
1203. 53:53gave up
1204. 53:53all his freedom to a man called david
1205. 53:56koresh
1206. 53:58in texas
1207. 54:01they ended up bombing his place
1208. 54:05okay and i had
1209. 54:08three words tell me more
1210. 54:11love is time t-i-m-e time
1211. 54:14tell me more he never knew
1212. 54:18if i would have reacted that's the
1213. 54:21difference between reacting
1214. 54:22and responding if i would have reacted i
1215. 54:27would have dragged him
1216. 54:28by his hair to the corner and i would
1217. 54:32step on him and i tell him
1218. 54:34how dare you talk to me like that my
1219. 54:36mother went to the gas chamber
1220. 54:40that's the way i would have reacted
1221. 54:44but god told me to find a bigot
1222. 54:48in me there is a hitler
1223. 54:52and that is goodness and kindness
1224. 54:55and peacefulness there is no love
1225. 54:58without hate
1226. 55:00there is no summer without winter and
1227. 55:02there is no life without that
1228. 55:05i hope you live a lifestyle every moment
1229. 55:09is precious
1230. 55:11and i as a survivor tell you
1231. 55:14to me life is the most precious gift
1232. 55:19that god has given me not only to
1233. 55:22survive
1234. 55:23but to be a guide to other people as you
1235. 55:26can be a guide that people who stand on
1236. 55:30your shoulder
1237. 55:31can see further and that's what my wish
1238. 55:35is
1239. 55:36that the young people i carry
1240. 55:40carry me with them and do everything
1241. 55:44in their power that their children and
1242. 55:46grandchildren
1243. 55:48and great-grandchildren will never
1244. 55:50experience
1245. 55:51what i did i owe it to my parents
1246. 55:55and one of the most beautiful jewish
1247. 55:59gifts of god is the gift of memory that
1248. 56:02we celebrate
1249. 56:06thank you edie i want to tell you that
1250. 56:08you are
1251. 56:09for me and for many in this community
1252. 56:11many on here you
1253. 56:12are a gift and i carry your words with
1254. 56:15me
1255. 56:16on a regular basis you are
1256. 56:19thank you for showing up please show up
1257. 56:22for your children
1258. 56:23show up for your grandchildren and
1259. 56:27that is a foreign
1260. 56:31i spent wonderful wonderful time with
1261. 56:35you
1262. 56:36shalom have a happy hanukkah christmas
1263. 56:40holidays and pay attention what you're
1264. 56:45going to hold into and what are you
1265. 56:48going to let go of thank you edie stay
1266. 56:52healthy and we're all sending you a lot
1267. 56:54of love and happy holidays
1268. 56:55i want to be healthy for you too thank
1269. 56:58you
1270. 57:00bye bye bye
1271. 57:05thank you tally thank you dr eager
1272. 57:08um honestly i also dr eager just wanted
1273. 57:12to say i i typed this in the chat
1274. 57:16um but i felt like every sentence that
1275. 57:18was coming out of your mouth
1276. 57:21felt like this treasure trove
1277. 57:24of um guidance and wisdom and life
1278. 57:27lessons
1279. 57:28and i was seeing multiple people um
1280. 57:31saying
1281. 57:32similar things in the room and so i
1282. 57:34wanted to thank you for that
1283. 57:36and also know as you said you know share
1284. 57:38with your children and your
1285. 57:39grandchildren
1286. 57:40i wanted you to know that there actually
1287. 57:41were some students also
1288. 57:43on this session as well so you were
1289. 57:46sharing your message far and wide
1290. 57:48and many of you that asked if this will
1291. 57:52be recorded it absolutely has been
1292. 57:54recorded
1293. 57:54um it's available right now on facebook
1294. 57:56um but we will be putting it on
1295. 57:58our website as well a little bit later
1296. 58:00today shortly after this
1297. 58:02this program ends um and there will also
1298. 58:04be information there
1299. 58:06um on her books if you're interested in
1300. 58:08purchasing them
1301. 58:10um as well as you'll be seeing receiving
1302. 58:12an email and also look in the chat
1303. 58:14because we'll put the links there as
1304. 58:15well
1305. 58:16um to get any feedback from you we we
1306. 58:19really um we would love to share any of
1307. 58:22your feedback with
1308. 58:24tally and dr eager as well as any ways
1309. 58:27that we can um
1310. 58:28meet the needs of our community and um
1311. 58:31there are ways that we can
1312. 58:32improve this um we definitely want to to
1313. 58:35do that as well
1314. 58:37and and lastly if you um
1315. 58:40if you like these programs and you find
1316. 58:43them as meaningful as as i do
1317. 58:45especially this one please consider
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1319. 58:52we can continue to provide these kinds
1320. 58:54of programs to the community
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1322. 58:59important for us
1323. 59:00so thank you all very much for being
1324. 59:02here again holly
1325. 59:04wonderful job so nice to have you here
1326. 59:07and
1327. 59:07dr eager you are a gift thank you so
1328. 59:10much for being here
1329. 59:12have a wonderful day everyone thank you
1330. 59:23you