Douglas Murray | 'The Incoherence of LGBTQI+' #CLIP — Transcript

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1. 0:00I wrote
2. 0:01a piece in the Spectator in the UK in
3. 0:02support of gay marriage before it was
4. 0:04popular to be in support of gay marriage
5. 0:05and explain what I regard as being the
6. 0:07conservative case for it, which was an
7. 0:10article which David Cameron used as a
8. 0:11basis for his first main speech on the
9. 0:14issue. Um,
10. 0:16I defended it as a right, but I also am
11. 0:17worried by and have been worried for a
12. 0:19long time by the extraordinary
13. 0:20intolerance of elements of the so-called
14. 0:22gay community, which I say so-called cuz
15. 0:24there is no such thing.
16. 0:26Yeah.
17. 0:27I mean you know
18. 0:28So, this is one of the interesting
19. 0:29aspects of this.
20. 0:30Um, there there must be a
21. 0:32there are a lot of gay people who don't
22. 0:33want to be defined by their sexuality.
23. 0:35There are a whole heap of other things.
24. 0:37Yeah.
25. 0:38They're citizens, they're
26. 0:39they might be boilermakers, they might
27. 0:41be Sydney as you know city executives or
28. 0:44what have you. But suddenly there's an
29. 0:46insistence that they define themselves.
30. 0:48Yeah, and this is this has come in very
31. 0:50recently.
32. 0:52And it's come in in each of the ones I
33. 0:53describe, and it's a basis for madness.
34. 0:57Um,
35. 0:58uh, when people say the gay community,
36. 1:00who are you talking about?
37. 1:02It's like women think this. Oh, really?
38. 1:0650% of the species all agree on
39. 1:08something.
40. 1:10Uh, blacks say this.
41. 1:13Really?
42. 1:14Mhm.
43. 1:15Um, now
44. 1:17This is let me put it another way. If if
45. 1:19somebody said
46. 1:21I don't know. Um
47. 1:23I just love the working class.
48. 1:26They
49. 1:27Who?
50. 1:28Yeah.
51. 1:29Um, I just love the middle class. Who? I
52. 1:31love the upper class. Who who who are
53. 1:32you talking about?
54. 1:34And it's the same with this. Why why
55. 1:36would we be why would we be falling for
56. 1:38this interpretation of society as
57. 1:40depending solely
58. 1:43or primarily on interest groups based on
59. 1:46gender / sex, sexual orientation, race,
60. 1:50and a bit more. Why would we be doing
61. 1:52that? Why would we be taking the
62. 1:54individualism out of individuals and
63. 1:57lumping them in these demonstrably
64. 2:00incoherent bodies that don't even exist.
65. 2:05They don't even exist.
66. 2:07The LGBT community.
67. 2:09Take me to your leader.
68. 2:12Come on.
69. 2:13I suppose in a way, you know, in in
70. 2:14public office, the thing that would have
71. 2:16struck me about so much of this is that
72. 2:18it it actually ends up dividing us
73. 2:20hopelessly. So, we're forever focusing
74. 2:22on the on our differences, on the things
75. 2:24that divide us as citizens, rather than
76. 2:27the things that unite us and that we
77. 2:28have in common.
78. 2:30What if that's the point?
79. 2:32Well, that's
80. 2:33that's the point?
81. 2:34Yeah. So, that's your second chapter is
82. 2:37is really on uh
83. 2:38On the Marxist
84. 2:39On the Marxist thing. Now, now, now this
85. 2:41pulling together
86. 2:43of of disparate groups who have
87. 2:45grievances that can be stoked and sort
88. 2:47of uh if you like, used as battering
89. 2:50rams for political objectives,
90. 2:52often without them probably even
91. 2:54realizing that in a sense they're being
92. 2:56used, that perhaps they're they're the
93. 2:58modern version of Lenin's useful idiots.
94. 3:00Yeah.
95. 3:01Yeah, this is um this is there's a
96. 3:03pattern in all of this.
97. 3:05Uh as I say in that chapter, you can you
98. 3:07can see the intellectual underpinnings.
99. 3:10And they come from this idea that if you
100. 3:13it's a it's a Marxist idea, but it's
101. 3:15just transferred to the modern era,
102. 3:17where instead of talking about society
103. 3:19and class structures, you talk about it
104. 3:21in minority interest group structures.
105. 3:23And you lump people like this. What What
106. 3:25is What is the primary aim of this?
107. 3:28Uh um among other things, it is a
108. 3:31different interpretation of society,
109. 3:33which is therefore intended to segregate
110. 3:37and pull apart societies as you and I
111. 3:39might understand them.
112. 3:41So, that people's primary affiliation is
113. 3:43not that I'm an Australian, but or I'm
114. 3:46British, but I'm a member of the LGBT
115. 3:49community in the greater Sydney area,
116. 3:52for instance.
117. 3:54Um
118. 3:55you can predict with 100% accuracy
119. 3:59the people who encourage this.
120. 4:03The people who will grab the latest
121. 4:06claim by an interest group and run with
122. 4:09it. And it is always people, always
123. 4:12people
124. 4:13who
125. 4:15in the past had another way of trying to
126. 4:17attack our societies.
127. 4:19Had a radical Marxist view of the world,
128. 4:21for instance. We know this with the
129. 4:23green issue, where and again, like like
130. 4:26the rights issues I write about in this
131. 4:28book,
132. 4:30they succeed because they're not onto
133. 4:32nothing, you know.
134. 4:34Um the green uh uh movement
135. 4:37is onto something with the environment
136. 4:39and with our planet.
137. 4:41But it has this hideous red interior,
138. 4:44which keeps exposing itself as desiring
139. 4:48not
140. 4:49not a better relationship between
141. 4:51ourselves and our environment, but for
142. 4:53instance, the end of capitalism.
143. 4:55And it's the same with this. Uh uh I
144. 4:58expose in each of the chapters that the
145. 5:01people who make it repeatedly and
146. 5:03desperately plain
147. 5:05that they believe, for instance, that
148. 5:07being a woman
149. 5:09is should be merely the first step in a
150. 5:12wider mission to bring down capitalism.
151. 5:15Now,
152. 5:17I don't think most women are on board
153. 5:18with that, and most women would be
154. 5:19rather surprised to be utilized in this
155. 5:21fashion.
156. 5:23But that is very clearly and
157. 5:26explicitly, and I quote the the various
158. 5:29scholars and writers who've been pushing
159. 5:30this for years. This is explicitly the
160. 5:33aim. And it's why, as I say, you can
161. 5:35always predict exactly who is going to
162. 5:37latch onto the latest claim. When when,
163. 5:40for instance, the big bearded man
164. 5:44with male genitalia
165. 5:46wins the women's weightlifting
166. 5:48competition, you can predict with 100%
167. 5:51accuracy who is going to say, "Yeah,
168. 5:53what's the problem with that?" And the
169. 5:55people who are going to say,
170. 5:57"Hmm,
171. 5:58I'm not sure Clive the big weightlifter
172. 6:01should be winning the women's category."
173. 6:03You can predict it. And the people who
174. 6:05say,
175. 6:06"Why have you got a problem with that,
176. 6:08bigot?" are
177. 6:09always the same people who believed in
178. 6:12the past that our societies needed to be
179. 6:14pulled apart in another fashion.
180. 6:16And now they'd like to do it in this
181. 6:18fashion.