'DOOM SCROLLING': Teen attention spans SHRINK from screentime habit — Transcript
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- 0:00Protesters once again taking over the
- 0:01streets of France today. Yeah, they're
- 0:04demanding more funds and resources for
- 0:06schools. Mary Julia Cook is with us this
- 0:08morning. Mary Julia, good to see you on
- 0:10the show today. Do you see parallels
- 0:12between the protest in France and the
- 0:14campus protest over here?
- 0:16>> So, I think in both cases what seemed
- 0:18like organic student led movements were
- 0:21seized upon by outside far left groups
- 0:23seeking to enact their own political
- 0:25agenda. So, in the case of France, you
- 0:27have Jean-Luc Mélenchon, the leader of
- 0:28the France Indomitable party, who is an
- 0:30avowed anti-capitalist. He says he wants
- 0:32to enact a citizens' revolution across
- 0:34the country, and he's encouraging
- 0:36students to keep protesting because he
- 0:38wants the votes of these young
- 0:39revolutionaries. And then with the
- 0:41pro-Palestinian protests, you have these
- 0:43outside agitators, many of whom weren't
- 0:45students, who seized upon the moment to
- 0:47position the war in Gaza as part of a
- 0:49broader struggle for freedom and against
- 0:51colonialism.
- 0:52>> Both both elements of protest in Paris
- 0:55and in in America,
- 0:57this is coming from the left.
- 0:59>> Right.
- 1:00>> is creating this.
- 1:01>> Against capitalism, against sort of
- 1:03democracy. That is the broader agenda
- 1:05that unites them. I will say the scale
- 1:06in France is much more destructive. It's
- 1:08250,000 people right now, both union
- 1:10activists and high schoolers who are
- 1:12protesting. They're burning down
- 1:13schools, they're assaulting teachers,
- 1:15and it doesn't seem to be slowing down.
- 1:16>> also anti-Israel. That's a big part of
- 1:20these protests, there and here.
- 1:22>> Yes, that is that is the unifying
- 1:23thread, absolutely. And I also think
- 1:25protest is deeply ingrained in the
- 1:27culture of, you know, being a young
- 1:28person, and also being French. If you
- 1:30remember, they
- 1:31they protested when the retirement age
- 1:33was raised from 62 to 64 a couple years
- 1:35ago, so it's it's part of the culture.
- 1:37>> You know that this these protests may
- 1:39open the door to Marine Le Pen,
- 1:42sort of a conservative politician.
- 1:44There's going to be an election in the
- 1:45spring for a new president of France,
- 1:46and she may win. Do you know that she's
- 1:48pushing for a lowering of the retirement
- 1:51age? She wants to bring it down to 60.
- 1:53Can you imagine this?
- 1:54>> I mean, that's
- 1:55>> How on earth do you afford that?
- 1:56>> The The The French would love it
- 1:57presumably.
- 1:58>> [laughter]
- 1:59>> But uh we'll we'll see. I mean I think
- 2:01that the case that this is helping uh
- 2:04the the far left Indomitable Party is
- 2:06unclear because I think if anything
- 2:08people might want some stability after
- 2:10all this chaos.
- 2:11>> [laughter]
- 2:12>> All right, take a look at this chart.
- 2:13It's from The Wall Street Journal. Teens
- 2:15who can't put down TikTok and Instagram
- 2:17are losing their sense of time. Come
- 2:20Mary Julia. And I need someone as young
- 2:22as you to explain this to me. How are
- 2:23you losing your sense of time?
- 2:26>> Yeah, so this is a study out of China of
- 2:271,500 school children and they found
- 2:29that the more people scrolled, not only
- 2:31were they addicted to the screen and
- 2:33unable to put it down, but they also
- 2:35struggled to plan for the future. And I
- 2:37think it's it's this instantaneous
- 2:39gratification that you get from the
- 2:40dopamine rush of scrolling that makes it
- 2:42harder to do things that aren't as
- 2:43rewarding right away like doing your
- 2:45homework, focusing on school, things
- 2:47that aren't fun, you know, off the bat,
- 2:49but are important to understanding the
- 2:51value of hard work, to being a
- 2:52successful student, a successful adult.
- 2:54And also remember that your prefrontal
- 2:56cortex, which is responsible for
- 2:57reasoning and planning, uh is not fully
- 3:00developed until you're 25. So mine is
- 3:01finally developed now, but you know,
- 3:03unfortunately, I think these are
- 3:05critical years and young people are are
- 3:07wasting them and not developing many of
- 3:09the the skill sets you need to be
- 3:10>> Now you see you're you're looking at
- 3:12these youngsters
- 3:13>> These youngsters
- 3:14>> You do it You do it just like me.
- 3:15>> Oh, I was one of them, too.
- 3:17>> [laughter]
- 3:18>> I've got another one for you. A new
- 3:19study, there's countless new studies, it
- 3:21claims that Gen Z youngsters are
- 3:23skipping the American dream of owning a
- 3:26home and choosing to spend their money
- 3:28on vacations instead. Mary Julia, I'm
- 3:31not buying that.
- 3:32>> I think social media bears all
- 3:34responsibility here because when you're
- 3:35looking at footage of beautiful
- 3:37vacations and destinations, it becomes
- 3:39this unrealistic expectation for a lot
- 3:41of young people that that's how you
- 3:42should be spending your 20s. Many of
- 3:44these trips that influencers are going
- 3:46on are paid for by sponsored brands. So
- 3:49they're not disclosing it, but they're
- 3:50not technically uh you know, paying for
- 3:52those trips. And I think it's
- 3:54unfortunate because young people, nearly
- 3:5550% of them are living at home right
- 3:57now, unable to attain the American dream
- 3:59of of building your own home, of
- 4:01building a family. And you compare that
- 4:03to a couple generations ago, it's
- 4:05totally different.
- 4:06>> Yeah, it is very different. That's true.
- 4:0750% of kids
- 4:09>> It's a record high.
- 4:10>> between in between in their 20s
- 4:12>> are unable to attain that traditional
- 4:14benchmark of adulthood. And instead
- 4:17their priority is on travel, which uh
- 4:18maybe should be pushed later.
- 4:20>> Well, well, where does all this study
- 4:21come from? I mean, we they're not buying
- 4:23a home, they're going on vacations. Who
- 4:25says?
- 4:26Who says that? Is it you?
- 4:27>> These are this what the data is saying.
- 4:29I mean, but it's it's because of what
- 4:31they're watching online and and sort of
- 4:32what they're aspiring to achieve at a
- 4:34young age. Um and I think, you know,
- 4:36it's funny cuz the American dream now
- 4:38includes leaving America to go on a
- 4:39trip.
- 4:40>> Okay, I want to bring Madison into this.
- 4:41She's she's a youngster as well. Did you
- 4:44get the impression that people like my
- 4:46age often just look down on Gen Z and
- 4:48find all the faults in this young
- 4:50generation?
- 4:50>> but that's not new. I think every
- 4:52generation has done that. I do think the
- 4:54priorities of the younger generation
- 4:55have changed and I do agree I think
- 4:57social media has many benefits of
- 4:58connecting people, but there's this
- 5:00constant comparison and it is a glossy
- 5:03film of what is actually happening. No
- 5:05one actually goes on vacation that often
- 5:07spends that much, but you're given this
- 5:08impression that that's what you need to
- 5:10do to be successful. I think the
- 5:11American dream is about how am I
- 5:13successful? That used to be buying the
- 5:15house, having the kids and having a
- 5:16stable job. Now being successful is
- 5:19going to Europe every summer, going on
- 5:21these trips, going out to dinner. But I
- 5:23think we're selling our kids short and
- 5:25we're setting up unrealistic
- 5:26expectations because it is true, 50% of
- 5:29those under the age of 30 are living at
- 5:31home and instead of saving for a
- 5:33mortgage, they're going on vacation. I
- 5:34think the stat is something like 45% of
- 5:37Gen Z'ers regularly take impromptu
- 5:39trips. Meaning like they're spending on
- 5:41a random weekend instead of saving. I do
- 5:44think when you feel like you can't
- 5:45attain the American dream and it you
- 5:47can't afford the house, why not go on
- 5:49that vacation?
- 5:51Um, and it's also never been easier
- 5:52because of the internet booking. You
- 5:54don't need a travel agent. I can book a
- 5:56trip right now.
- 5:57>> If I said that these days the trick to
- 6:00getting into the American dream, to
- 6:02owning a home, rests largely on having
- 6:04rich parents, would that be accurate?
- 6:06>> that's
- 6:06>> Yeah.
- 6:07>> That's horrible. That's depressing.
- 6:09>> No, I think the American dream should
- 6:10should should focus on your own ability
- 6:13to create something of value for
- 6:15yourself. Relationships, a job, a
- 6:17business. Income, et cetera.
- 6:19>> And one one final like more positive
- 6:21note, it could also be that we've never
- 6:24had more mobility in jobs. So, yes, I
- 6:27can't explain the kids living at home
- 6:2850%, but I know for myself, like I lived
- 6:31in Florida, then I lived here. When you
- 6:33own a home, you want to make sure you're
- 6:34investing for a number of years. I don't
- 6:36really trust New York City. I don't want
- 6:38to buy here, but I'm saving and doing
- 6:40stuff for retirement that, you know, my
- 6:42parents weren't doing when they were my
- 6:43age.
- 6:43>> Last word to our guest, Mary Julia
- 6:45>> And also to add to that, putting down
- 6:47the phone in the constant scrolling and
- 6:49doing the homework and the hard work
- 6:51that we were speaking about earlier.
- 6:52That's never been more important.
- 6:53>> Okay, you brought it up.
- 6:54>> struggle with that.
- 6:55>> [laughter]
- 6:56>> I'm wrong, you're right.
- 6:57>> Very kind.
- 6:58>> Mary Julia Kelly, thank you very much
- 6:59indeed. Make sure to like and subscribe
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