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0:02and educational purposes only. All
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0:17[Music]
0:26[Music]
0:46Six. Bro, what's in the front of the
0:47house?
0:49>> All right, come on.
0:50>> I can see him.
0:51>> All right, Drew, get on the floor.
0:53>> Get on the floor.
1:05Okay,
1:06>> we got it. We got him today.
1:09>> All right,
1:10>> come on. Come on.
1:11>> Thank you.
1:14>> Check him.
1:15>> Go inside. Check on her.
1:17>> Can you please get the kids out of this?
1:19I don't want the kids to see this.
1:20Wayne's already had a rough life.
1:22>> Please. Hi.
1:24>> Well, we Well, we're going to first we
1:25got to check and see who's hurt.
1:26>> Okay.
1:27>> All right. Okay. Get up real quick.
1:31>> On a January night in St. Petersburg,
1:33Florida, police were called to a home
1:35where an argument had spiraled out of
1:36control. Living there was a young couple
1:39trying to raise two kids under the same
1:40roof as a grandmother. To neighbors,
1:43they looked like an ordinary family, the
1:45kind you'd wave to while walking down
1:47the street. But inside the house,
1:49tensions had been building. Tiffany
1:52Dickinson was a devoted mother. She
1:54worked hard to keep her kids safe and
1:56cared for, always putting them first.
1:59Friends say she had a bright personality
2:01and loved creating a warm home for her
2:03son and her baby daughter. But that
2:06night, in a moment that would change
2:07everything, the family's life was torn
2:09apart. Police would later say the call
2:12they got that night wasn't unusual at
2:14first, just another domestic
2:16disturbance. But when they stepped
2:18inside, it was clear this wasn't
2:19something that could be fixed with calm
2:21words and paperwork. A young mother's
2:24life had been cut short, leaving behind
2:26two children and a family that would
2:28never be the same. This is the
2:30interrogation of Jacob Scott Wallace.
2:37[Music]
2:56stomach just hurt so bad.
3:04Then she kept giving me Xanax. I told
3:06her I didn't want Xanax. She kept giving
3:09me sadex.
3:19Oh.
3:23Oh.
3:29Oh.
3:43Hey Jake. I'm Gabby. This is Bobby.
3:48We're going to talk to you about what
3:49happened tonight. Okay.
3:55You want to have a seat?
4:00I know you're upset, but we want to try
4:02to learn from you what happened. Okay.
4:06So, have a seat. Get comfortable. Sit
4:08too
4:16big. Okay.
4:21>> Yeah, it's a lot.
4:23>> I'm really sick.
4:25>> Okay.
4:25>> I don't want to smoke sick bread for
4:28my kids.
4:30>> I understand.
4:31>> I understand. And we'll accommodate
4:33everything we can. Okay. But we do have
4:35to kind of go through some stuff and
4:36talk with you first. Okay.
4:38>> Yeah. Um so before we get into because I
4:41want to ask you questions about what
4:43happened tonight. Um I have to go over
4:46this form with you. Um
4:50this is going to be some basic
4:51information. Um
4:54we'll do real quick. What's your first
4:57name?
5:00>> I know it's
5:01>> Jacob. Jake.
5:03>> Jacob. Yeah.
5:04>> Is it with a C or K?
5:07>> I just go by Jake always Jake Wallace.
5:10>> Okay. But your actual name is it. How do
5:12you spell J A C O B? Okay. W A L L A C
5:15E.
5:16>> Mhm. And do you have a middle initial?
5:19What is it?
5:26>> What's your birthday?
5:29>> When I first
5:31>> 95. Does that make you how old?
5:34>> 20 something.
5:36>> 20 something.
5:37>> 28.
5:38>> 28. Okay. What's your address?
5:48>> Take your time.
5:49>> Yeah.
6:11I don't know what's going on.
6:14>> Okay. Well, that's what we want to
6:15figure out and that's why I want to talk
6:17to you. So, we'll get through this and
6:19then we can get in all those questions.
6:22Okay.
6:23But I need you to work with me a little
6:25bit. All right. Because I I want to I
6:26want to figure out what your story is.
6:28Okay. All right. So, it's
6:39>> um Are you under the influence of any
6:40prescription drugs?
6:44>> I
6:46I mean um I've used um
6:51uh methamphetamine and fentanyl.
6:54>> Okay. Um but those are not prescribed to
6:56you or they are. No. Okay.
7:02only two hits a minute. But
7:04>> just how long ago was that?
7:06>> Um this morning when my we woke up.
7:10>> Okay. This morning. And then what about
7:12the fentanyl?
7:14>> Um
7:20before I went into the bathroom. after
7:24or before I went into the bathroom
7:30and then when I came out of the
7:32bathroom.
7:33>> Okay. About how many hours? If you don't
7:35remember, it's okay. Just one.
7:36>> I have no idea.
7:38>> That's okay.
7:42Um, what is the last grade that you
7:44completed?
7:46Um,
7:51I dropped out in 10th grade.
7:53>> Okay. What school did you go to?
7:56>> Uh, North East.
7:57>> Oh, so you're like from St. Pete?
7:59>> Yeah.
7:59>> Okay. Can you read?
8:01>> Yeah.
8:02>> Can you write?
8:03>> Yeah.
8:05>> Can you hear me? Okay.
8:08>> Is that Yes.
8:09>> Yeah. I'm just starting to feel really
8:12sick.
8:12>> I got you. because I was using a lot of
8:15federal.
8:15>> Yeah. Oh, that's understandable. Um, all
8:18right. So, I'm going to go over your
8:19Miranda warnings. Okay. So, this is just
8:21so that you understand what your rights
8:23are before I start talking to you. When
8:24I ask you to this, I just need a verbal
8:26yes or no. Okay. Uh, you have the right
8:28to remain silent. Do you understand?
8:30>> Yeah.
8:32>> Anything you say, canon will be used
8:34against you in a court of law. Do you
8:35understand?
8:37>> Say yes.
8:38>> Yes.
8:40You have the right to talk to a lawyer
8:41and have him or her present with you
8:43while you are being questioned. Do you
8:44understand?
8:46>> I kind of would like a lawyer, but I
8:48don't want
8:51I don't know.
8:54Can I smoke a cigarette?
8:57>> Well, we don't we don't have a cigarette
8:59right here.
8:59>> We can talk a little bit.
9:04I can always
9:06have a I can ask lawyer later.
9:09>> Okay. Well, so we'll get we'll get
9:11through these and then we can discuss.
9:13All right. You have the right to talk to
9:14law and have him or her present with you
9:15while you're being questioned. Do you
9:16understand?
9:18>> Yes.
9:18>> Okay.
9:21If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer,
9:22when will we be appointed to represent
9:24you? Do you understand?
9:26>> Okay.
9:28You can decide at any time to exercise
9:30these rights and not answer any
9:31questions or make any statements. Do you
9:32understand? Yeah.
9:37>> Do you understand each of these rights I
9:39have explained to you?
9:42>> Yes or no?
9:43>> Yes.
9:44>> Okay.
9:46>> So,
9:48what?
9:49>> Having those rights, having these rights
9:51in mind, do you wish to talk to us now?
9:56>> Yeah.
10:00Let me smoke the cigarette though.
10:02original.
10:04>> So, Jake, I I don't smoke and I don't
10:06have all this cigarette up.
10:08>> Oh, you do?
10:09>> Yeah.
10:10>> Okay. Leave leave.
10:12>> Yeah. Just
10:12>> Okay.
10:13>> What?
10:15>> Since you said that you want to talk to
10:16us, let's just real quick. Um,
10:22>> can you go over what happened today? Cuz
10:25you know why you're here, right?
10:31I don't know what the [ __ ] is going on.
10:39>> Was really strange
10:42last night.
10:44>> Okay.
10:44>> Hey J, I'm sorry to bother you. Real
10:46quick, see enough? Let me just real
10:47quick. Okay,
10:48>> let me just check something real quick
10:50here.
11:03What?
11:09>> You got anything in your boots, Jake?
11:13>> No dope in there. Anything though?
11:14>> No,
11:16I don't think.
11:20>> Okay. All right.
11:26careful.
11:30>> So, you said last night
11:32>> there was something going on. Can you
11:35tell me about that?
11:37>> I came home.
11:38>> Mhm.
11:40>> And
11:41it looks like
11:48there was um
11:51I don't know. I could tell she was
11:53flustered and she had her shoes on.
11:55>> And when you say she, who are you
11:56talking about,
11:58>> Tiffany?
11:59>> Okay, good.
12:01>> And she just seemed
12:04kind of ordinary, but we had few like
12:07little issues like
12:08>> Yeah.
12:09>> And every night like we'd stay up pretty
12:12late and then she kept we kept talking
12:16and then she'd tell me something
12:17different.
12:18>> Mhm.
12:19>> And
12:22She told like one night and she told me
12:25that she had put
12:29five
12:31Xanax in my sandwich and I have no
12:34recollection of anything.
12:36>> Okay.
12:38>> And then
12:39she'd be like
12:43she'd
12:47she'd make a face. I've never seen her
12:50face before and be like,
12:52>> I didn't say that. You forced that out
12:54of me.
12:56>> And she just kept like saying things and
13:00I started getting really paranoid like
13:02something was going on.
13:04>> Yeah.
13:17And like
13:20you know, I don't ever hear voices or
13:23anything, but it seemed like
13:30like there were phones and stuff
13:34and it seemed like and she deny it
13:38>> and I'd try to pick it up and it would
13:40just be different.
13:42>> Talking about on her phone,
13:44>> her phone there was a pink
13:48Purple.
13:50>> Um, iPhone. Sure. Wade had a phone.
13:57>> Is that tonight that you were trying to
13:59pick up her phone?
14:00>> Uh, no.
14:01>> Okay. Last night.
14:02>> What happened tonight before you came
14:04here?
14:05>> Well, this is leading up to it.
14:07>> Okay.
14:08>> So,
14:12it was just strange. Everything was
14:14really weird. like I know her and she
14:16just it was weird.
14:18>> She wasn't acting like herself.
14:19>> Yeah.
14:19>> Okay.
14:20>> And
14:22she like she made a mess of the entire
14:25house and we cleaned up everything and
14:28she sent like Wade over to Jessica's.
14:32>> I don't know who Jessica is.
14:34>> I don't It's
14:36>> irrelevant.
14:37>> Yeah. Okay.
14:39Um,
14:46so
14:49we had like a decent enough night, but I
14:52kept
14:55like I don't know. She was saying like I
15:00was crazy, but she flipped all the [ __ ]
15:02over and
15:04>> there was like a key I grabbed, put it
15:09in my pocket and I started
15:12>> 100% positive I did it.
15:14>> Okay.
15:15>> And then it was back in the door knob
15:19and I felt like somebody was like there
15:21was just like knocks and sounds and [ __ ]
15:24that I normally hadn't heard.
15:28So, I couldn't figure out anything.
15:30Like, I don't know if
15:34that's the only reason I didn't kill
15:35myself.
15:36>> Mhm.
15:40>> That was last night.
15:41>> I know.
15:42>> Okay.
15:43>> I probably did not.
15:47>> I don't know.
15:51A lot of it was like
15:54it was really strange how we had talked
15:57like the last few days cuz everything
16:00was like being recorded and videotaped
16:04and stuff.
16:07But I
16:10like there was a video I think as like
16:13you can say that or something like I
16:15don't know a lot of it was like
16:23ironic
16:24cuz we had this thing between us but I
16:28had a few times hit her.
16:32>> Mhm.
16:33Um,
16:36like we talked about everything.
16:39>> Yeah, it sounds like you guys were very,
16:41very close and you had a pretty good
16:44relationship from what I've heard from
16:46the people that were around you. That's
16:48I don't know how we got here.
16:50>> I don't either.
16:52>> What did you work today?
16:54>> Oh,
16:55>> no. Okay. What What happened today? Like
16:58starting this morning, what went on
16:59today with you?
17:01>> Sunday morning. Sunday. Oh, yeah. Sunday
17:03morning.
17:08>> She uh my mom came home and was yelling
17:12about something
17:13>> and then
17:14Tiffany was saying that
17:18>> she said something don't tell them blah
17:21blah blah. And then like she kept trying
17:23to make me think things.
17:25>> Mhm.
17:27>> And I was like, "What are you talking
17:29about, Matt?" And she was like, "I
17:31thought you said bad."
17:35>> It's just I don't even want to think.
17:39I just wish
17:42just give me 10 minutes.
17:47And then I felt like
17:49the way that she had been acting and
17:51everything
17:53like they were trying to do some kind of
17:55thing
17:57>> mad deathly. Uh, I have no idea who
18:01I don't know. I don't
18:08She was telling me I was crazy. Like I
18:11wasn't being crazy.
18:13>> Then she's like, "You argued with me for
18:15three and a half hours." I'm like, "What
18:17are you talking about? We talked for
18:21>> I mean, it might have been long. I don't
18:22know."
18:23>> Mhm.
18:24>> I don't know.
18:27I have no idea.
18:30>> Was that when you guys were in the room
18:31together after the kids were in bed?
18:34>> Okay.
18:35So, what happened after you guys kept
18:37arguing?
18:40>> Um,
18:42I'm talking about way too many. It's all
18:45over the place.
18:47This morning she said,
18:50"Give me 10 minutes."
18:54>> Mhm.
18:56And um
18:58I was like, "What's going on?" And she
19:01was like, "Just can give me 10 minutes."
19:06And
19:11I took a couple
19:15hits of fentanyl cuz I have to in the
19:18morning.
19:20>> I'm like really not even
19:26Um,
19:30and then
19:33I don't want
19:35She just said I was crazy and she kept
19:37calling me crazy. I'm like, "What are
19:38you talking about?"
19:44>> How'd that make you feel when she said
19:46that?
19:48>> I just asked Oh, cuz I asked what she
19:50liked. I heard
19:54I heard her say something. I just asked
19:58about it.
19:59>> Mhm.
20:00>> And then I felt like people were trying
20:02to like [ __ ]
20:04orchestrate it and I felt like I
20:06couldn't trust anybody. So I went and
20:11drove all the way to
20:17I felt so like she was manipulating me.
20:21I know it, but I don't know why
20:27she feed me the other night ever.
20:34They want a cigarette.
20:37I really want
20:45>> J. We're trying to talk about tonight. I
20:48know there's a lot that built up to that
20:49and and you're kind of getting there,
20:51but
20:52>> can you tell us why you called 911
20:54tonight?
20:56>> Because I wanted my children to be okay
20:59with their
21:00>> How did what how did you
21:07>> because nobody would ever believe
21:10story. I know, but I I want to hear what
21:12happened because I can that's my job is
21:14to find out people's stories with what
21:17happened and yours is yours is a story
21:20that I need to hear about what happened
21:21when you and Tiffany were in the room
21:23before you had to call 911. That's what
21:25I want to talk about. Okay, does that
21:27make sense?
21:28>> I just don't I loved her so much. I
21:31don't want to say again.
21:34>> I know that you loved her
21:36and I want you to help us figure out
21:38what happened in there. You're the only
21:40person I can talk to.
21:44>> Great. Mhm.
21:49>> So, when you guys were in the room
21:52together, the kids were in bed, her mom
21:54was in your mom was in bed. What
21:57happened in the room?
22:01>> When I first come home,
22:02>> Yep.
22:03>> the first time after I I drove all the
22:05way up.
22:07>> Okay.
22:09English.
22:09>> Mhm.
22:11>> But I wasn't going to go like I was just
22:12going to find a place. I wish I did
22:14that. I just want to go back there.
22:18>> Yeah. But you you made the choice to
22:20come back with
22:25we last went
22:27family.
22:29>> Yeah. She had some special memories
22:31there. That makes sense.
22:35So I felt like
22:37I felt like oh
22:42>> she just wants me to you know what I'm
22:44saying like
22:45>> Mhm.
22:45>> whatever I said like
22:48>> but then I thought okay but yeah there's
22:49something going on though right?
22:51>> Mhm.
22:53And then
22:58I got
23:04I got home like cuz she was like, "What
23:06the [ __ ] you talking about? You're
23:07crazy." And then I got home.
23:12>> Oh,
23:15I was just trying to talk to her about
23:16it.
23:16>> Mhm.
23:19And
23:21she was just like, "You're crazy.
23:23Whatever."
23:25>> And then I saw that the purple phone had
23:29headphones plugged in. I had thrown a
23:30phone in the street, by the way, on 83rd
23:32Avenue. Okay.
23:33>> Because earlier I forgot this
23:35>> when I was on the phone with one of my
23:37friends.
23:43>> I forgot this.
23:44>> Mhm.
23:48Yeah, let us know.
23:52>> Jake, breathe. Breathe and tell us. It's
23:54okay.
23:58>> Came in the house and I baby monitor and
24:01I wasn't quite
24:12Now that Now that
24:18Jake.
24:22>> Jake, you got to stay calm, please.
24:25>> Please.
24:27There was no fight or anything.
24:34>> I heard a gun. Go shoot him now. Shoot
24:38him now.
24:41>> Okay.
24:44She given me something.
24:46>> Mhm.
24:46>> There was [ __ ] everywhere.
24:48>> Okay.
24:50I thought
24:51>> Yeah.
24:53>> And then what?
24:54>> And my baby saying all sorts of [ __ ]
24:56she's never said before.
24:57>> Mhm.
25:00>> So then what? What happened then?
25:04>> You did this to my little girl.
25:08You're gonna like like I didn't know
25:11what had happened by Tommy was saying
25:13things that she loved me and went on
25:16Friday man was so different to me.
25:19>> Yeah.
25:20>> Oh my god.
25:21>> What happened then?
25:25>> What happened after you heard that? What
25:27did you do after you heard that?
25:30>> I didn't say anything. Right.
25:32>> I didn't
25:34make up my life.
25:37>> Why was it too late?
25:42>> You shot her.
25:44>> I was going to shoot myself
25:49and then
25:53Jake bring
25:55you your kid. I felt like I was be my
25:59kids were being crushed from me. Yeah.
26:01>> Mhm.
26:01>> That's scary. That's very scary.
26:07>> Jake, where was the gun before you
26:08picked it up and pulled the trigger?
26:12>> It was on me cuz I would get someone
26:14carrying.
26:15>> Did you have it in like in your pocket
26:17in your belt? How do you normally carry
26:20it?
26:23>> I might have been sitting somewhere. Are
26:25you right-handed or left?
26:28>> I'm right-handed.
26:29>> Okay.
26:31But was it was it on you or was it
26:33sitting?
26:33>> That was on me.
26:34>> Okay.
26:35>> I don't want to lie.
26:36>> No, I I want you to tell me the truth.
26:38>> Oh my god.
26:39>> Where?
26:40>> Where was she?
26:40>> Yeah.
26:41>> And when you pulled the trigger,
26:47>> taking a hit.
26:48>> Okay.
26:50>> But you you guys were in the bedroom.
26:52Where was she taking a hit at?
26:55>> By the safe.
26:56>> By the safe. Was she standing or sitting
26:59or on the floor? She was lighting it and
27:02hitting the fend.
27:04>> Okay.
27:06>> Was she But was she sitting or standing?
27:08Where was she?
27:09>> Standing.
27:10>> Okay. Standing over by the safe.
27:12>> I don't want to see this anymore. I
27:14loved her.
27:16>> I know that you loved her. We're But we
27:18have to talk about it because it's
27:19something that happened and you're the
27:22only person I can talk to about what
27:23happened
27:25to me.
27:27I don't never what happened.
27:29>> How many times did you pull the trigger?
27:35>> What did
27:35>> Why did they do that to me?
27:38>> What h What happened to her after you
27:40pulled the trigger?
27:44>> I don't remember. What?
27:49Oh my god.
27:58Jake
28:10love this so much.
28:13>> What What happened to her after you pull
28:15the picture? What did she do?
28:18>> I guess I don't want to describe it.
28:21>> I need you. I need you to
28:24>> I know. I know it looks bad, but I need
28:25you to talk to me.
28:27>> You got to get it out of here.
28:37>> Can you point to where is Hendrick.
28:53Oh my god.
28:58>> Jake,
29:00you need to bring you talk with us.
29:02You're going to get sick if you keep
29:03doing this. That's why you're not
29:04filming. You have to let it out. You
29:06have to tell us what happened.
29:08>> I know it's
29:10your really
29:15>> Jake. Where did the bullet hit her?
29:19>> Somewhere. Did you check on her after
29:22that? Oh yeah.
29:28>> What did you do after you pulled the
29:29trigger?
29:31>> I yelled.
29:33>> Mhm.
29:34>> Because I thought she was killing me.
29:37>> Okay. After you pulled your trigger,
29:40>> cuz she they was something
29:44they she had given me
29:46>> Okay.
29:47>> a little bit of fat.
29:48>> Yeah.
29:49>> This hand.
29:50>> Mhm.
29:53and something I'd never seen before.
29:55This hand.
29:58>> Okay. But then
29:59>> and then I felt kind of weird.
30:03And then I thought
30:06I thought that she was trying to kill me
30:09and she wouldn't let like I didn't want
30:11to have to look at the house again. I
30:12just wanted to lay with her.
30:14>> Did you do that?
30:17>> No, not after I shot her.
30:19>> What did you do after you shot her? I'm
30:20talking all over the place cuz I
30:22>> I know. And I That's why I'm trying to
30:23help you stay focused. I understand it's
30:25this is tough, but I got My job is to
30:27keep you focused. So, after
30:29>> I thought she was going to kill me.
30:30>> I know. But after you shot her, what did
30:33you do?
30:35>> I thought I yelled.
30:38>> Okay. What did you yell?
30:42>> I can't I can't remember. I couldn't
30:44believe what my daughter was saying.
30:46>> Okay. Was your daughter outside the
30:48room? just in the hole and I shut the
30:51door and locked it as quick as I could
30:53and I said, "Please don't come out in
30:57>> I felt like
31:00>> I felt angry."
31:02>> Yeah.
31:03>> Because
31:05that night
31:07>> Yeah.
31:08>> like
31:10my truck ran out of gas.
31:12>> It's really tough.
31:14>> I didn't feel good.
31:17>> Felt so hopeless. It's this rug problem.
31:20And
31:21>> everybody I went knocked
31:24>> cuz she was the one that usually got it.
31:27>> Yeah.
31:27>> Every one of them hurt me away.
31:31>> And that's And so you were really
31:33emotional when you were in there cuz you
31:34had a really bad day and now
31:37>> I I put Disney clothes on.
31:40>> Yeah. Did you move Tiffany after you saw
31:43her?
31:43>> Not at all.
31:44>> Did you touch her at all?
31:45>> No, I put a coin on her. Why did you put
31:48a coin on?
31:49>> Cuz I felt like it was this guy we had
31:51met
31:53>> that was doing it all.
31:55>> Okay.
31:57>> What kind of coin was it?
31:59>> Um,
32:01we had some guy called
32:06I think his name's true.
32:07>> Mhm.
32:10>> On
32:19I don't remember what day.
32:21>> Okay.
32:22>> And uh he asked for if we had a TR.
32:27>> Mhm.
32:28>> And sure, let's bring it.
32:31>> Yeah.
32:33>> Then uh I don't know what all the I gave
32:37him that and he gave me that coin.
32:40>> Mhm. What? Um but what kind of coin was
32:44it?
32:45There's a text message about it. I don't
32:49know much. The guy messaged some weird
32:51[ __ ] and that's when I started getting
32:53paranoid about like all sorts of stuff.
32:56>> The coin would still be in the house.
32:59>> I put it on her.
33:00>> You did? Okay. And you didn't touch her
33:01except for to put the coin on her. Okay.
33:03>> I just threw it at her because
33:04>> threw it. Okay.
33:05>> Because she made me leave.
33:08>> Yeah.
33:09>> When I wasn't even like she I did. She
33:12said I could hear somebody saying
33:22>> I somebody said
33:27what did they say
33:29>> let me
33:32>> I could hear somebody said scream cuz I
33:35was talking to her I don't remember what
33:37I was saying scream scream and
33:40>> then she screamed and acted like I hit
33:42her.
33:43>> You didn't?
33:44>> No. When I felt like I was being
33:45reasonable like it was a little
33:47>> I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure at the
33:48beginning of this you were being
33:50reasonable. I think it escalated and it
33:52got really bad. Was she still breathing
33:54when you threw the coin at her?
33:56>> I don't think so.
33:57>> You don't think so? Okay. How long
33:58between when you pulled the trigger and
34:00when you threw the coin you think it
34:01was?
34:04>> I have no idea. It's
34:05>> okay.
34:06>> That's okay. If you don't know, I don't
34:08want you to make something up.
34:10I have no idea she was she looked
34:14>> Yeah.
34:15>> I just [ __ ] because like
34:18I just
34:24>> when So after that So she's It's okay.
34:28But she's
34:29>> you throw the coin cuz you think it's
34:31the guy. After that, what do you what do
34:33you do then? Do you stay in the room for
34:36a while?
34:37>> I lit a cigarette. I I don't think it it
34:39might have been a
34:41There was cigarettes I didn't recognize
34:43in there.
34:44>> Okay. You lit one of those up.
34:46>> I had bought a pack when I ran away.
34:52So, I don't know which cigarette I lit
34:54up, but there were there were cigarette
34:55butts yesterday when I walked around the
34:57house.
34:57>> Yeah.
34:58>> Like she had been, you know,
35:00>> they were all over and I was walking
35:02around the house smoking. Like I wasn't
35:05completely in the best state of mind.
35:07Yeah,
35:08>> but I wasn't like out there either. And
35:11what?
35:13>> Oh my god. I can't believe
35:19I just
35:20>> what it
35:20>> I thought she was told me. I thought
35:22>> I told you.
35:23>> I saw her face cuz she was like high.
35:27>> Mhm. M. She was like this,
35:30>> sitting there taking a hit and you
35:32thought she was going to
35:33>> Well, I just thought that whatever that
35:36[ __ ] was, she was killing herself.
35:39>> Were you Were you trying? You thought
35:41maybe in the future she was going to do
35:43something.
35:44>> I thought she was killing herself.
35:45>> Okay.
35:47>> That had run through my mind and I felt
35:50so mad too about
35:52>> Yeah, that's something to be angry
35:53about. That's tough. I didn't do
35:55anything
35:57>> when you left the room cuz at one point
36:00you come out cuz you called 911, right?
36:04>> Yeah.
36:05>> Did you say anything to
36:08Wade or to your mom?
36:10>> I just said believe me. I wanted them to
36:12believe me cuz I this story sounds so up
36:18and mom please.
36:20>> Why?
36:24So, you thought that she was going to
36:26kill you because or you thought
36:28something bad was going to happen to you
36:29because of something that she was doing
36:30with somebody else with the baby monitor
36:31and all that stuff, but then you thought
36:33she was killing herself sitting.
36:35>> I thought that was bad. Like, really?
36:37>> Why did you shoot her?
36:40>> I don't know. I was like,
36:42>> she was going to kill herself. Why did
36:45you shoot her?
36:46>> I don't know.
36:48I heard like
36:50I heard
36:51>> Yeah,
36:51>> I heard it said
36:55>> I know
36:56>> I shoot him now and I was like me.
36:59>> Did she have a gun?
37:01>> Oh, was she
37:03>> She did have so scared. I thought I
37:06thought I was going to jail for some
37:08crime that I was set up for or something
37:11that I had no idea what was going on.
37:17thought you thought you should shoot her
37:18instead.
37:19>> I don't know. What kind of gun was it?
37:24>> I didn't think I should shoot her. I
37:27didn't think about it. I was scared. I
37:29was terrified. I was so scared.
37:33>> Jake, what kind of gun did you use?
37:39>> Which gun was it?
37:41>> The one that you carry.
37:44>> Like I carry a Glock.
37:47My god.
37:50>> I didn't want to do it,
37:52>> Jake. I know, but
37:53>> I don't know what was happening.
37:55>> I know, but we're we're kind of past the
37:58point of we can sit and talk about
37:59regrets, but what what kind of gun did
38:01you use?
38:03>> Was it ever the
38:05>> Okay. Where is it right now? What did
38:07you do with that after?
38:11I think it was like I
38:15I thought my life was over because of
38:18whatever she was doing.
38:19>> Mhm. So where where's the gun?
38:23>> So I was going to shoot myself
38:26because she
38:27>> Mhm.
38:30>> going to not ever let me have my kids or
38:33something. I think I helped you take
38:37kids away from me. And then
38:43I didn't shoot myself and I thought,
38:45"No,
38:48somebody needs to believe me."
38:50>> Mhm.
38:53>> And so you did what with the gun?
38:56>> I think I took the magazine out. Okay.
38:59>> And I racked the slide. All right.
39:01>> And I shut the door.
39:04>> Mhm.
39:05Like the door was already I opened the
39:06door and shut it immediately and I woke
39:09up when
39:13I grabbed the toilet.
39:20Breathe. Breathe.
39:23I know that must have been hard, but you
39:24got you got to breathe for yourself.
39:26You're going to fall out, bud.
39:30Yeah. Sorry.
39:34>> What What did you do when you woke Wade
39:36and Violet up? I
39:38>> just told her.
39:40>> What'd you tell Wade?
39:43>> I just asked him if there was something
39:46>> that there was something.
39:47>> Yeah, because I know that I could tell
39:50talking to him the other day like he
39:53just changed with me all of a sudden.
39:56Had you and his mom been fighting a lot?
40:00A
40:01>> little bit.
40:02>> Yeah.
40:04>> Whose phone did you use to call 911?
40:06>> Mine.
40:06>> Yours? Okay. Did you leave it in the
40:09house or did they bring it here?
40:10>> Fell out of my pocket. My name.
40:13>> Okay.
40:14>> I didn't want to do that. I don't know
40:17why I did.
40:20I don't know why.
40:22>> I don't want to.
40:24Well, part of part of that guilt you
40:28feel, you know, it helps to talk about
40:30it, all right? Get it out in the open,
40:31right? Because otherwise, you're just
40:33holding all that in
40:34>> and no amount of drugs or anything's
40:37going to was going to bury that. Okay?
40:39So, you're doing the right thing. You
40:42know, you're getting it out. Okay? It's
40:43not fun. It's not easy, but you but
40:46you're getting it out. Okay? And you
40:48said you wanted somebody, you know, to
40:50believe you and to hear your side of the
40:51story. So, that's what we're that's what
40:53we're doing. Okay. So, after you uh
40:56called 911, what did you tell him when
40:59he called?
41:04[Music]
41:07God,
41:12I didn't want to do that.
41:15>> You You told 911 I didn't want to do
41:17that.
41:17>> No, I didn't say that. I
41:30Oh my god.
41:37Okay, take a breath, please.
41:38>> I
41:43catch a breath. It trans.
41:51[Music]
41:52I thought
41:59>> Jake,
42:01we need to call 911.
42:04I didn't want to say I wanted to talk
42:08because
42:13that
42:17you want to
42:27[Music]
42:40Jake. Jake, you got to stay calm, buddy.
42:42Okay, I know you feel bad.
42:46She was the best I ever
42:53breath
42:56was.
43:00>> You were overwhelmed
43:03in the morning right before you start.
43:16was just overwhelmed.
43:18Doing too much math
43:21>> just cuz I was sad.
43:22>> Yeah,
43:25I just was doing too much math.
43:28This is how it
43:33know that
43:34[Music]
43:35voices were by his hand.
43:43I just know
43:48there
43:50if they were
43:52if they were
44:04Let me let me ask you something. You
44:06said um you you like changed clothes or
44:09you got dressed. Is that what you were
44:11wearing when this happened?
44:13This is the exact outfit you had on when
44:15you shot her.
44:17>> I threw this on.
44:19>> You put that shirt on? Do you have a Did
44:20you have a shirt on when you shot her?
44:24Where's that shirt?
44:26>> I think I'm wearing it.
44:27>> You are wearing it. Okay. Did you have a
44:30Was the gun in a holster? Was Okay.
44:42Here you go.
44:47How long uh how long you been sneezing?
44:50Cuz listen, July 23rd
44:54>> of last year.
44:55>> This year our last year, right?
44:57>> 23. Yeah, that's pretty specific. How do
44:59you remember that exact exact date?
45:02>> Cuz it was the third time that water
45:06used.
45:07>> Okay. Were you using prior to her using?
45:11>> No, I just drank.
45:13>> Okay. Did she introduce you? Was it the
45:15fatted or the
45:17>> Yeah, she kept lying about it. And then
45:22so I was upset that she
45:26doesn't want to talk cuz so from July to
45:30now how many times you say you guys got
45:32high together?
45:34>> She
45:36my entire
45:39>> Let me ask you Jake. In all the other
45:41times you guys have been high in about
45:42>> We got high every day.
45:45So basically every day for 7 months
45:48close to it, you guys were getting high
45:50together.
45:51>> If not, no.
45:52>> Right. Been any of those times had she
45:54ever
45:56tried to hurt you before?
45:58>> A couple times.
45:59>> Okay. How How did that happen?
46:01>> And what did she do?
46:02>> I'd try to stop the drug use and she
46:06would
46:09>> What about the voices when you're high?
46:12I
46:13I said that last night to her,
46:16>> but it wasn't I was trying to I've been
46:20up for two days.
46:21>> Yeah,
46:22>> I normally didn't stay up that long, but
46:26I was just stressed.
46:27>> Oh, sure.
46:28>> I normally went to bed.
46:29>> Didn't stress in the mess. That'll I'll
46:31keep you up for a long time.
46:34>> But I I slept last night and I wasn't
46:37hearing voices. I just told her that cuz
46:39she kept calling me crazy.
46:42So, you didn't actually hear the voices.
46:44You just told her that.
46:46Yeah. Okay. Just because like
46:51or I might have heard [ __ ] last night. I
46:53don't I Yeah. Well, there was weird [ __ ]
46:56going on. I don't remember. I
46:58>> sure there's too much [ __ ] Mhm.
47:09>> What did you say to the police officers
47:11when when they came in the door?
47:15>> I don't remember. I just put my hands up
47:18and
47:21>> I just wanted somebody to believe.
47:24>> Yeah.
47:24>> That I
47:31I felt like she was going to kill me.
47:37>> All right.
47:40Is there anything else you think that we
47:42need to know about tonight?
47:47>> I
47:49ran out of gas
47:52when I got put to leave.
47:55>> Okay. Well, I didn't get totally evap.
47:59>> Yeah.
48:01>> Um,
48:03I went into
48:0771.
48:08>> Okay. So, that was before you shot her.
48:11>> Yeah.
48:12>> Okay. Where
48:13>> into circle like, "Hey, I cried in the
48:16bathroom."
48:17>> I'm having a rough day, it sounds like.
48:19>> I just wanted to go home.
48:21>> Mhm.
48:23I talked to a couple people on the
48:25streets trying to get them to just help
48:28me and give me a place to stay. I didn't
48:30have a jacket. I thought I had my truck.
48:32>> At what point
48:34>> did you
48:36want to shoot her?
48:39>> I didn't. Okay. At what point did you
48:42make the decision to shoot her?
48:53I thought I was going to die after
48:56hearing that and I was in such fear for
49:00my life.
49:02>> So this
49:04>> and then
49:08she
49:10the baby was saying
49:13all sorts of [ __ ]
49:16like she had been coached to say [ __ ]
49:18>> Mhm.
49:19Violet,
49:21>> what did she say to you?
49:24>> Daddy, how she's never once said that to
49:26me. She never once said she didn't say
49:28that Friday after leaving.
49:32>> She said,
49:34and I felt like she like I didn't know.
49:37I thought she was working straight
49:40>> against.
49:41>> So, was she sitting at the edge of the
49:42bed getting high or standing at the edge
49:45of the bed getting high? And that's when
49:46you decided something had to be done.
49:50Okay. All right. We're going to
49:53>> Well, I shut the door.
49:57>> Yeah.
49:57>> I felt like I couldn't I anymore cuz I
50:00didn't want She
50:02>> Yeah.
50:02>> Okay.
50:03>> All right. We're going to step out.
50:04>> We'll be back. Okay.
50:17Jake,
50:19this is one of our forensic technicians.
50:21Okay. What you start a little air in
50:24here. Sorry about that.
50:25>> That's all right. Um, hey, listen. What
50:27we're going to do is I'm going to take
50:28your cuffs off. I'm going to basically
50:30have you stand over here against the
50:31wall. She's going to take some pictures.
50:33She's going to kind of go over your
50:34hands a little bit. And, um, as we say,
50:37we're going to get you processed. Okay.
50:39So, I need you to just cooperate um and
50:42follow her directions. Can you do that
50:45for me?
50:45>> Yes.
50:46>> Okay.
50:53>> Go ahead and stand over here for me.
50:58>> Sorry, I
51:00That's fine.
51:06Okay, you're just going to stand up
51:07against the back of this wall and then
51:08just face face. Okay,
51:12>> I got some [ __ ] door.
51:20>> Yeah, put a lock up.
51:27>> You guys searched them. So that's from
51:28you guys.
51:29>> Yes.
51:29>> All right. I just want to verify. Okay.
51:31Can you face this wall for me?
51:35>> You don't have to touch it.
51:36>> All right.
51:37>> You're good.
51:50>> Okay. Face the back wall. So, turn
51:52around that way and face that wall.
51:55>> But that was fine. That's good. Yeah.
51:57>> You're fine.
51:59do that one too.
52:15Okay, now face the back wall.
52:25[Music]
52:31Okay, he can sit down. All right, you
52:32can sit down.
52:33>> Grab a seat for me here.
52:49do this
52:52so I can see his hands a little better.
53:01>> Lift your hands up just for a sec.
53:03That's right. Lift those up for a sec.
53:04thing. I'm just wiping this down.
53:14>> Good job.
53:16>> That is
53:19>> I didn't hold on to that.
53:21>> That's okay. All right. I'm just going
53:22to have your you put your hands on this
53:24that way helps the photograph so it
53:26doesn't reflect back up. Okay. Okay.
53:48Hi, Jake. Um,
53:51>> this officer's going to drive you out to
53:52county. We brought you some things to
53:54put on your feet.
53:55>> Slide those on your feet.
54:03>> No, no, no, no, no. Your feet. Your
54:04feet.
54:07>> There you go.
54:07>> Yeah, I know. It does. It does look
54:10very, but it's not.
54:16>> And then all of them
54:30that one on, then we'll move the cuffs.
54:46Yeah, she took care of the big one.
54:55There we go. Almost
54:59backwards.
55:01>> They're supposed to be one size fits
55:02all, but
55:05There you go. Here, Jake. Look at what
55:07you're doing, bud. Put your toe in it.
55:13>> Okay, perfect. All right.
55:19>> He's going to un
55:22table there. So, just
55:29for me, stand up. Bring your hands
55:31behind your back.
55:38electric.
55:47>> This was really tight.
55:52>> All right. So, we're going to have pull
55:54back. Okay. I'll walk down. All right.
55:56Thanks.
56:04Following the interrogation, Jacob
56:05Wallace was charged with seconddegree
56:07murder. He eventually pleaded guilty and
56:09was sentenced to 25 years in prison. By
56:12doing so, he avoided a trial, but not
56:14the consequences. In court, Tiffany's
56:17family listened as the details were read
56:19aloud, and her 10-year-old son had a
56:21letter delivered to the judge. In it, he
56:23told Jacob that he had taken away the
56:25only parent he had left. It was a quiet
56:28moment, but it said everything. Tiffany
56:30Dickinson was more than just a name in a
56:32case file. She was a mother, a daughter,
56:36and someone who had been trying to hold
56:37her family together. Her life was cut
56:40short in a way that never should have
56:42happened. And two children are left to
56:44grow up without her. This case is a
56:47painful reminder that domestic violence
56:48often hides in plain sight. And when it
56:51turns deadly, it's not just one life
56:52that's lost. It's everyone left behind
56:55who carries it. If you found this video
56:57informative, please consider leaving a
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57:01it really helps support our work and
57:03allows us to continue covering important
57:04stories like this one. Thank you.

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