DNA ~ The Secret of Life (Episode 1) — Transcript
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- 0:00[Music]
- 0:07There are a small group of pioneers who
- 0:10have explored a world too small to see.
- 0:16What they found there has answered some
- 0:18eternal questions.
- 0:21What is life? How is it made? Why are
- 0:24children like their parents?
- 0:27Their work has triggered a revolution
- 0:29that may make the iron and silicon
- 0:31revolutions seem like footnotes in human
- 0:34history. This series is their story. The
- 0:38story of the people who unlocked the
- 0:41secret of life.
- 0:43[Music]
- 0:56[Music]
- 1:09This is DNA.
- 1:11What it actually looks like according to
- 1:13the latest scientific data.
- 1:17It is without doubt the most powerful
- 1:19substance on Earth. The order of its
- 1:22chemicals determines whether a child has
- 1:24her mother's eyes or her father's smile.
- 1:30Until 50 years ago, almost no one knew
- 1:33of its existence. But that all changed
- 1:35when two unknown scientists ran into a
- 1:37pub in Cambridge shouting that they'd
- 1:39found the secret of life. Jim Watson and
- 1:43Francis Crick.
- 1:47[Music]
- 1:52If you go to Cambridge and walk around
- 1:54the grand old buildings, you'll hear of
- 1:57the achievements of Francis Bacon,
- 1:59Alfred Lord Tennyson, and Isaac Newton.
- 2:04But if you ask about Watson and Crick,
- 2:06you'll hear rumors of improper behavior,
- 2:09skull duggery,
- 2:11even plagiarism.
- 2:15But what if you go to the people
- 2:16themselves? What do they have to say?
- 2:22Francis Crick lives in a house on the
- 2:24edge of the Mojave Desert in California,
- 2:26and he's become a little reclusive when
- 2:28it comes to discussing DNA. Some say
- 2:31it's because he's ill. Others say he
- 2:33finds the whole subject uncomfortable.
- 2:36Or maybe he's just busy with his more
- 2:37recent work, studying the chemical
- 2:39nature of dreams. Whatever the reason,
- 2:43he no longer gives interviews.
- 2:46But Jim Watson does.
- 2:51Today, he's a 74year-old world famous
- 2:55multi-millionaire,
- 2:57but he was just a 25year-old junior
- 3:00researcher when he explained life in
- 3:02scientific terms.
- 3:11Still all these years later, one gets a
- 3:13sense of the brash young man who was
- 3:15planning to overthrow the old ways of
- 3:18thinking.
- 3:23You if you looked at Cambridge, you
- 3:24know, we were products of God and uh
- 3:28Darwin wasn't uh celebrated as the most
- 3:31important person.
- 3:34[Music]
- 3:37the statement that uh life could be
- 3:40understood finally in terms of
- 3:42molecules. Uh people would say it was
- 3:44hypothesis
- 3:46you know until you could explain
- 3:49heredity in terms of molecules someone
- 3:51could always say there was something
- 3:52else. So Francis and I went united as
- 3:56you just thought religion was wrong.
- 4:00Not necessarily silly but wrong.
- 4:04There was no God and uh you know humans
- 4:08had to make our own rules and not just
- 4:12obey rules because someone said they
- 4:14came from God.
- 4:16You realize that you know
- 4:21the people you know thought we were
- 4:23slightly crazy
- 4:26but uh we didn't think we were. We
- 4:29thought the other people were dull.
- 4:33Dull or not, the other people at
- 4:35Cambridge didn't hold up much hope of
- 4:37Watson and Crick doing anything at all,
- 4:39let alone finding the secret of life.
- 4:42Watson, the awkward American kid, and
- 4:44Crick, a splendid talker who had never
- 4:47quite managed to finish his PhD. They
- 4:50were seen as lazy jokers.
- 4:53To appreciate what they did, we have to
- 4:56imagine ourselves in the 1950s when all
- 4:59that was known about life was what could
- 5:01be seen down a microscope.
- 5:04Cells dividing.
- 5:06They could somehow magically divide to
- 5:08form plants or panthers or people. But
- 5:12how? There had to be some kind of script
- 5:15or instructions telling the cells what
- 5:18to do.
- 5:19And it had to be here in the
- 5:21chromosomes.
- 5:23It was known that chromosomes were made
- 5:25of two discrete ingredients called
- 5:27proteins and DNA.
- 5:30Most people expected to find the answer
- 5:32in the proteins.
- 5:35Proteins are very complex and made up of
- 5:37many different chemicals.
- 5:40So they distracted the best minds.
- 5:44But Watson and Crick decided to look at
- 5:46the simpler DNA.
- 5:48DNA is composed of only four
- 5:50ingredients.
- 5:53They thought if they could work out how
- 5:54the atoms of these four ingredients were
- 5:56arranged in physical space, they might
- 5:59be able to work out what they did.
- 6:02They had a hunch that the
- 6:04three-dimensional structure might reveal
- 6:07its function.
- 6:09But while Watson and Crick had never
- 6:11found the structure of anything, 60 mi
- 6:14away in London, there were another pair
- 6:16of scientists who had.
- 6:19Rosalyn Franklin has been called the
- 6:22dark lady of DNA.
- 6:24She died without ever getting the credit
- 6:26for her part in the discovery.
- 6:29Some say she was betrayed by her
- 6:31colleague at King's College London.
- 6:33[Music]
- 6:38If you go to Kings along a remote
- 6:41corridor and down these stairs,
- 6:4450 years on, you'll still find her
- 6:47colleague,
- 6:48[Music]
- 6:50Morris Wilkins.
- 6:52[Music]
- 6:56On the walls of his office are clues
- 6:59which hint at what he's been through.
- 7:05During the Second World War, he helped
- 7:08to create the atom bomb.
- 7:11The night it was dropped on Hiroshima,
- 7:14he was at a party celebrating the
- 7:16culmination of his work when a man came
- 7:19up to him and said something that would
- 7:21change his life.
- 7:24>> It was being Monday when the bomb went
- 7:25off and he said, "I call it Black
- 7:30Monday. I always hoped it wouldn't work.
- 7:35So
- 7:37I sort of stood there and felt a bit
- 7:39small
- 7:40and uh then said, "Yes, I think you
- 7:43think you're quite right."
- 7:46But it did work. And so we are living
- 7:51uh kind of in the aftermath of that.
- 7:57Disillusioned with the science of death,
- 8:00he chose the science of life instead.
- 8:03And that's why he chose to look for the
- 8:05structure of DNA.
- 8:07>> Well, here is one of the X-ray
- 8:09generators we're using in this work.
- 8:12Here is the X-ray tube.
- 8:14>> Wilkins strange contraption is in fact a
- 8:16kind of camera.
- 8:19>> It's a technique called X-ray
- 8:20crystalallography.
- 8:23A crystalline form of DNA is placed
- 8:25inside the camera and when X-rays are
- 8:28fired through it, they scatter onto
- 8:30photographic paper and form a regular
- 8:32pattern.
- 8:34It's a bit like shining a spotlight at a
- 8:37chandelier.
- 8:40Light hits the crystals and then
- 8:42defracts onto the wall. Now imagine you
- 8:45can't see the chandelier and you can
- 8:47just see the light on the wall.
- 8:50From that you have to guess the shape of
- 8:52the chandelier
- 8:54and that's what these photographs are
- 8:57taken by Morris Wilkins. They were the
- 9:00first clue to the structure of DNA.
- 9:03But his boss realized he was on to
- 9:05something big and decided to bring in an
- 9:08expert, Rosalyn Franklin. And suddenly
- 9:11it wasn't just Wilkins taking
- 9:13photographs of DNA.
- 9:16So Watson and Crick were in Cambridge.
- 9:19Wilkins and Franklin were in London,
- 9:22but there was someone else lurking out
- 9:24there. Someone with a formidable
- 9:26reputation,
- 9:28an American called Lionus Pauling.
- 9:32He died years ago, but his son was
- 9:34involved, too. And we found him in the
- 9:37middle of Wales, miles from the nearest
- 9:40town.
- 9:42In this house is Peter Pauling.
- 9:46It's very often in science that that the
- 9:49times are right and people have
- 9:52different people have the same idea,
- 9:57you know, at roughly the same time
- 10:00and getting in first somehow is
- 10:03important.
- 10:05>> Although they didn't all realize it,
- 10:07these five characters were in a race.
- 10:10Peter Pauling knew them all and watched
- 10:12this piece of history unfold. His father
- 10:15had the best credentials, a double Nobel
- 10:17Prize winner.
- 10:18>> P did very few things by accident. He
- 10:22did things.
- 10:25He had a reason for doing things.
- 10:29Tapa DNA was just
- 10:34a substance like sodium chloride.
- 10:40Lionus Pauling looked for the structures
- 10:42of many molecules and he usually found
- 10:45them too. That's why in the world of
- 10:471950s science he was one of the most
- 10:50recognizable figures.
- 10:51>> I like to
- 10:54understand the world. I like to learn
- 10:57about new ideas but I also uh like very
- 11:01much uh having new ideas myself or
- 11:04making discoveries myself. This pleases
- 11:07me immensely.
- 11:10He had a different approach. He was
- 11:12going to guess the structure by building
- 11:15ball and spoke models.
- 11:17The balls represent the atoms. The
- 11:20spokes are how far apart they must be
- 11:22from each other according to the laws of
- 11:24physics. So Linus Pauling would then try
- 11:27to see how they fitted together.
- 11:31Solving a structure this way was like
- 11:34doing a three-dimensional jigsaw puzzle.
- 11:38So Watson and Crick had a choice to do
- 11:41the painstaking X-ray work or try their
- 11:43luck building models like Linus Pauling.
- 11:46For them the choice was simple.
- 11:49>> To build models,
- 11:51it was only a question when you started
- 11:52to build models. Would you do it after
- 11:55you collected
- 11:57years of experimental data or would you
- 12:00try and build the the model with a
- 12:03minimal data?
- 12:06So they went for model building with the
- 12:08minimum of data. Some might say a more
- 12:11leisurely approach, but that was the
- 12:14Cambridge style.
- 12:17And Watson and Crick seemed to be the
- 12:19epitome of that, whiling away the hours,
- 12:23chatting about the secret of life.
- 12:25>> People would laugh at us and say, "Oh,
- 12:27we weren't doing experiments. Just take
- 12:29these long walks and lunch and uh
- 12:32constantly talking." Instead of
- 12:35experimentally happy days,
- 12:41>> people see you do no experiments. It was
- 12:44sort of thought, you know, we were
- 12:45parasites. Other people did the work and
- 12:47we got the glory. Uh
- 12:51but the truth was, you know, uh uh
- 12:54complicated.
- 12:56>> In fact, Watson and Crick were asking
- 12:58all the right questions.
- 13:02What was common to all forms of life
- 13:06and uh
- 13:08what finally seemed to be common to all
- 13:09forms of life was
- 13:12there was a script.
- 13:15We had been thinking it was DNA but we
- 13:18didn't know the shape of the script and
- 13:20uh always the big problem was the
- 13:22copying. Who copied it? There weren't
- 13:23any, you know, little monks inside the
- 13:26cell copying the script.
- 13:31By not getting bogged down in the
- 13:33details of experiments, their minds were
- 13:35free to concentrate on the big ideas.
- 13:39Their constant talking was in fact a way
- 13:41for them to distill their theories.
- 13:47Three teams, three different approaches,
- 13:49and Watson and Crick weren't the
- 13:51favorites.
- 13:52>> I would say that
- 13:55Watson and Crick were number two.
- 13:59And at that time I would put my money on
- 14:03this crowd.
- 14:06[Music]
- 14:20King's College London should have been
- 14:22the ideal place to study DNA.
- 14:25But trouble was brewing.
- 14:27While Moraurice Wilkins blended into the
- 14:29shadows, Rosalyn Franklin was making a
- 14:32big impression on those around her.
- 14:34>> She was uh of of medium height and had
- 14:39black hair which she wore straight uh
- 14:42just in in no particular arrangement,
- 14:46but she had the most startling dark eyes
- 14:50which showed the intense nature of her
- 14:53personality.
- 14:55Most of the young men who worked with
- 14:57her were half in love with her.
- 15:00>> One of these young men was Raymond
- 15:02Gosling.
- 15:03At the time, he was a lowly lab
- 15:05assistant working for Roslin Franklin.
- 15:08>> Looking back on it, I think I was very
- 15:10privileged to have been there. Uh, I
- 15:14only wish I had known at the time that
- 15:18it was that important. I might have
- 15:20remembered more or worked harder and who
- 15:23knows I might have tried building a few
- 15:25models secretly.
- 15:27Model building was in the air. But her
- 15:30view was you could build models all day.
- 15:33But how did you prove which one was
- 15:34right? On the other hand, if you made
- 15:37the measurements, you did all the
- 15:38corrective geometry and you put them
- 15:41into the equations, you would let the
- 15:44data speak for itself.
- 15:46And out of that would come a definitive
- 15:49structure.
- 15:51>> But there was a problem. Wilkins was
- 15:53under the impression that DNA was his
- 15:55project, but their boss had told
- 15:58Franklin it was hers.
- 16:00>> No mention was ever made of the fact
- 16:03that Wilkins was the overarching
- 16:07uh person concerned in the lab. She
- 16:11certainly felt she was coming in, she
- 16:13was taking over that defraction work.
- 16:19So at opposite ends of the corridor,
- 16:22Morris Wilkins and Rosalyn Franklin
- 16:24worked on DNA.
- 16:27Occasionally, they would announce their
- 16:28results to the department.
- 16:32One afternoon in November 1951, Franklin
- 16:36was to reveal her latest DNA data to a
- 16:38select group of King's College
- 16:40scientists
- 16:42and one outsider.
- 16:46Well, this is where I came in
- 16:49early November 1951 to hear Roslin
- 16:53Franklin talk about her newest results
- 16:56on DNA.
- 16:58And uh I was terribly keen to know what
- 17:02she'd done because uh
- 17:05I wanted to build a model and I thought
- 17:07I would learn possibly something about
- 17:10the structure. There was probably, you
- 17:12know, 30 people in the room and, you
- 17:14know, I slipped in, you know, was
- 17:16inside, you know, like a spy and, uh,
- 17:20Roslin, you know, was seemingly much in
- 17:23control.
- 17:25I totally never took notes. My memory
- 17:27was good.
- 17:31Having taken in as much as he could of
- 17:33the X-ray data, Watson rushed back to
- 17:35Cambridge to tell Crick what he'd heard.
- 17:39For the next two weeks, they worked on a
- 17:41model. And on the 28th of November,
- 17:431951, Watson and Crick announced that
- 17:46they had found the structure of DNA.
- 17:49[Music]
- 17:54Francis rang me up and said, "We made a
- 17:57model. Come have a look." So, I went to
- 18:00the others and collected. We all went
- 18:02up.
- 18:03>> It was a pretty ugly structure. Francis
- 18:05liked that. I don't know. you know, he
- 18:07called up the people at Kings and said
- 18:09we' done something clever and uh
- 18:12I was a bit worried.
- 18:14>> Feeling apprehensive, the King's team
- 18:16left for Cambridge. Rosalyn Franklin
- 18:19took one look at the model and
- 18:21>> she laughed at them. Uh much to their
- 18:25discomfort, I think, had said, "Oh,
- 18:27look, you've got it inside out."
- 18:30>> Watson's memory had let him down over
- 18:32the amount of water in her DNA data. The
- 18:35water content is vital to the structure.
- 18:38So, their model was a complete disaster.
- 18:40>> Roslin was tickled pink. She was right.
- 18:45The building of a model of a crystal
- 18:47structure was a waste of time until
- 18:50you'd let defraction speak for itself.
- 18:52And that was hard work.
- 18:56I don't know. I mean, um, one might say,
- 18:58well, why not? You mean it is an
- 19:00exploration to make a model. I mean,
- 19:03make a model and if you make a bit of a
- 19:05fool yourself in the process, why worry?
- 19:07You might be be lucky.
- 19:11>> Well, strange thing about science is how
- 19:13stupid people can be so much of the
- 19:15time. And uh so Francis and I were
- 19:20really stupid.
- 19:23Worse than that, they had incurred the
- 19:25wrath of the London team's boss, Sir
- 19:27John Randall, who called up Watson and
- 19:30Crick's boss, Sir Lawrence Bragg, to
- 19:32complain about their behavior. And Bragg
- 19:35was furious. In those days, it wasn't
- 19:37gentlemanly to have knowledge of
- 19:40somebody's current unpublished work and
- 19:42to make use of that working on the same
- 19:45problem. It was rather like having an
- 19:48affair with his wife. I mean, it
- 19:50happened, but you uh you you didn't
- 19:52really take much credit in doing it.
- 19:56>> Watson and Crick were kicked off the
- 19:58case, and even their model building
- 20:00equipment was sent to Kings.
- 20:03>> When we gave it up, we gave them the
- 20:05jigs for making models, and they didn't
- 20:08build any. So, they never took on what
- 20:13we had failed to do.
- 20:16Watson and Crick were officially out of
- 20:18the race.
- 20:23The way should have been open for the
- 20:25King's College team, but one thing stood
- 20:28in their path.
- 20:31Morris and Rosalind didn't get on.
- 20:35Why couldn't these two characters
- 20:36resolve their differences?
- 20:39Morris was so shy that when he was
- 20:43talking to you and he didn't know you,
- 20:45he habitually talked at an angle. So,
- 20:49you might find that you were addressing
- 20:50the back of his head. I think scientists
- 20:52in particular tend to be rather uh
- 20:57um
- 21:00well, I don't know, sort of bottled up
- 21:02with um serious thoughts and uh and uh
- 21:07wonderful theories that uh
- 21:10and uh the secret of life or something.
- 21:14He would slide into a room and and and
- 21:17and mumble something and be very
- 21:20diffident about it. He was never going
- 21:21to come in and say, "Well, I'm glad
- 21:23you've joined my team." Uh, and and and
- 21:25say, "This is the way we do it." Spit
- 21:27spot bang. Uh, which had he done would
- 21:31have cleared the air.
- 21:32>> You know, a number of these,
- 21:34>> you know, he wasn't able to talk to her.
- 21:36>> I think there a number of people.
- 21:38>> Rosen was extraordinarily intelligent.
- 21:41Now, for that reason, she frightened the
- 21:44average bloke. I'm sure
- 21:47>> today Rosalyn Franklin is an icon.
- 21:50Outside a building for female students
- 21:52named after her. There's a statue of
- 21:55her.
- 21:57To get a better sense of what she was
- 21:59like, we asked her sister, who
- 22:01apparently sounds similar to Rosalind,
- 22:04to read a letter she wrote to their
- 22:05religious father. She argues for the
- 22:08importance of science in understanding
- 22:10the world.
- 22:12Science for me gives a partial
- 22:14explanation of life. In so far as it
- 22:17goes, it is based on fact, experience,
- 22:19and experiment.
- 22:21Your theories are those which you and
- 22:23many other people find easiest and
- 22:25pleasantest to believe. But as far as I
- 22:27can see, they have no foundation other
- 22:30than that they lead to a pleasant view
- 22:31of life and an exaggerated view of our
- 22:34own importance.
- 22:36Anyone able to believe in all that
- 22:38religion implies obviously must have
- 22:40such faith. But I maintain that faith in
- 22:42this world is perfectly possible without
- 22:44faith in another world.
- 22:51Um the picture to me seemed to say
- 22:54something about Rosalind. Rosalind has
- 22:58um sometimes seemed a bit sort of heavy
- 23:03in appearance at the I mean not always
- 23:06but sometimes. And I I thought, well, it
- 23:10would have been nice if uh uh she'd been
- 23:13able to sort of trip around on her toes
- 23:16and and uh look uh pretty and and
- 23:22cheerful.
- 23:25But I think it was it was very sad
- 23:27because
- 23:29uh we had thought we might be all able
- 23:31to join together, you see, in the
- 23:33scientific work.
- 23:36Um,
- 23:39it's uh
- 23:43that two sides to the the the the whole
- 23:46thing.
- 23:49[Music]
- 23:57Back in Cambridge, Watson was down in
- 23:59the dumps, banned from working on DNA.
- 24:03His dream of showing it was the secret
- 24:05of life was slipping away. But Crick had
- 24:08some good news. Someone was coming to
- 24:11dinner in Cambridge who could help them.
- 24:21>> Your favorite.
- 24:22>> Win Sharaf had never wanted to help
- 24:24Watson and Crick.
- 24:26Even at 96 years old, he was still
- 24:29bitter about what had happened.
- 24:33Shaf was an expert in the chemistry of
- 24:35DNA.
- 24:37Over dinner, Watson and Crick tried to
- 24:39plum him for information. They were
- 24:42fishing really. But that I get the
- 24:45impression
- 24:47they did all the time. I think Watson
- 24:49really was a fisherman. I mean, he he
- 24:53sort of brought the news to Crick. Crick
- 24:56was apparently the man who had the
- 24:58ideas. Well, I think we didn't like him
- 25:00because he
- 25:03sort of didn't, you know, warm up to our
- 25:06saying, you know, you could solve the
- 25:07structure of DNA by model building. You
- 25:10know,
- 25:10>> they both showed an extreme contempt for
- 25:13chemistry. That was what struck me. They
- 25:16were more like children in their
- 25:18behavior.
- 25:19>> You know, he was just a born enemy.
- 25:26Despite his extreme dislike for them, he
- 25:29did explain his charge rules that state
- 25:31the relative amounts of the four basic
- 25:33ingredients of DNA. By comparing samples
- 25:36from three different species, he
- 25:38discovered a strange correlation.
- 25:41No matter what the life form, the amount
- 25:43of A equal the amount of T and the
- 25:46amount of C equal the amount of G. This
- 25:49suggested the chemicals somehow went
- 25:51together in pairs. For Shaggaf, this was
- 25:54an interesting correlation, but for
- 25:55Watson and Crick, it was the first clue
- 25:58to the structure.
- 26:00>> I think DNA to him was yeah, an
- 26:04objective whose time had not yet come.
- 26:07[Music]
- 26:20Oh, here on on this table here.
- 26:25>> Oh, yes. Good. Yes. There's a unicam.
- 26:28Excellent.
- 26:30>> On this desk is the original equipment
- 26:33that helped reveal the structure of DNA.
- 26:36>> So, this is the first camera. This is
- 26:39the the first DNA.
- 26:40>> It's worth a fortune today.
- 26:43I mean, putting them in a frame like
- 26:45that, they look much better than just
- 26:46sort of lying on a table, don't they?
- 26:48The X-rays go in here. Photographic film
- 26:52is put on the inside here. Then that is
- 26:55put down around the the
- 26:59we
- 26:59>> like everything with Morris,
- 27:01>> there's more to it than meets the eye.
- 27:03>> Now, you want to say something about
- 27:05these? These are smallcale models.
- 27:08Morris had also wanted to build models
- 27:10based on the X-ray data,
- 27:13>> but Rosalind had all the best DNA
- 27:15samples,
- 27:17>> and they weren't talking. No one else at
- 27:19Kings really had the imagination to help
- 27:22him.
- 27:26>> At Kings, if anybody did perhaps see the
- 27:30overarching picture, Wilkins did because
- 27:34he often said, you know, we should all
- 27:36wake up. We should all try a number of
- 27:39different things instead of plotting
- 27:40along trying to solve the X-ray
- 27:42defraction pattern because we are in a
- 27:44race. It is an important problem and
- 27:48there are other people I mean there was
- 27:50this bogeyman sitting in America called
- 27:53Lionus Ping who already had two Nobel
- 27:56prizes not one and he was thinking about
- 27:59it. By now Lionus Pauling had turned his
- 28:02full attention to DNA. Suspiciously,
- 28:06this coincided with a certain young
- 28:07playboy traveling all the way from
- 28:09America to work in Watson and Crick's
- 28:12office. In those days, Lionus had a son
- 28:14who was about uh the same age as Watson
- 28:18and knew Watson and and uh Ping came
- 28:21across and came to our lab and he went
- 28:23and stayed with Watson and Crick
- 28:28and uh I think he put the fear of God
- 28:31into them that dad was thinking about
- 28:34this.
- 28:36I had to feel what was he doing in the
- 28:39laboratory of his uh father's big
- 28:41competitor.
- 28:42>> I was accused of being a double agent,
- 28:45but uh
- 28:48I don't accept that because I'd write to
- 28:51P and just say what I'm doing and he'd
- 28:55write back, you know, what he was
- 28:57interested in.
- 28:59>> And P was not only writing back to
- 29:01Peter, he was busy writing other
- 29:02letters, too. I wrote to Wilkins at
- 29:07King's College asking uh if I could have
- 29:11prints of the photographs that he had
- 29:13obtained, but I my effort was not
- 29:15successful.
- 29:17>> By now, King's College had this X
- 29:19pattern, which indicates that DNA is a
- 29:21spiral or helix shape. It was Rosalyn
- 29:24Franklin's best photo yet, but she
- 29:26wasn't letting anyone else see it. So,
- 29:29Pauling never saw the X. could he have
- 29:32come up with the right answer without
- 29:34seeing the king's data? Of course, I
- 29:37hoped he couldn't. Uh it wasn't until,
- 29:42you know, about the last day of January
- 29:44that Peter came in after lunch and uh
- 29:48had a manuscript. I had a letter from my
- 29:50father in December 52 saying he had
- 29:54proposed a structure for DNA. So I told
- 29:58the boys, "Oh, they rushed over and
- 30:01>> my stomach sank and I, you know, I was
- 30:03scared to death. So what was going to be
- 30:05in it?" Opened it and read it and they
- 30:08discovered, you know, that it it it
- 30:13was wrong.
- 30:16>> We wonder what got into Lionus.
- 30:21Pauling's model not only didn't fit the
- 30:24data, it also failed to explain anything
- 30:27about what DNA did. He had blundered by
- 30:31trying to get the structure with too
- 30:33little information.
- 30:36It wasn't any ambigu as to whether Lus
- 30:39was right or wrong. He said Lus is
- 30:41wrong. It's you know. So we were both
- 30:44pleased and a bit scared because maybe
- 30:47someone at Caltech group will tell
- 30:48Lionus this is chemical nonsense.
- 30:51Little did we know that you know no one
- 30:53at Caltech really had the courage to
- 30:55tell Lionus he was wrong. Lionus was
- 30:57like the pope. Lionus wasn't used to
- 30:59people saying he was wrong.
- 31:01>> So I've had a very fortunate life.
- 31:04>> I thought the people at kings should be
- 31:07relieved. So without being asked, I
- 31:09thought, well, just take the manuscript
- 31:11down to uh the kings.
- 31:14I was just bubbling over with the fact
- 31:15that we had another chance.
- 31:18Pauling had got it wrong and we should
- 31:21go into action fast.
- 31:24[Music]
- 31:36So, I went down and looked for Morris
- 31:38and didn't spot him. And someone told me
- 31:40where Roslin's office was. So, I went
- 31:42toward it and uh walked in.
- 31:47She wasn't there.
- 31:50I wasn't trying to read the letters on
- 31:52her desk or anything like that, but
- 31:53obviously I was looking around and she
- 31:55came in. Someone had told her that I was
- 31:58looking for her. She had a very negative
- 32:00reaction to me. Fury was rising. She
- 32:03didn't think I should be there. So, I
- 32:05got out of the room as fast as possible.
- 32:07And then Morris Wilkins had heard I was
- 32:10around. And there he was. And I said,
- 32:12"Oh, I I thought she was going to hit
- 32:14me." And he said, "Oh, I thought she was
- 32:15going to do that to me once." And uh so
- 32:19I went to he took me to his office and
- 32:22opened the drawer and took out a photo
- 32:24and there it was the cross which I had
- 32:27never seen and which they had basically
- 32:30weren't talking about. It it showed this
- 32:34sort of uh X type of um oxo type of um
- 32:40cross pattern which was an indication of
- 32:42a helix.
- 32:45>> Is that a big guy? I mean, it was the
- 32:48most beautiful photograph. You know,
- 32:50it's as if you see the most beautiful
- 32:52girl in the world and you're going to
- 32:54see her again. You know, it was great.
- 32:56>> If I got excited about the results, I'd
- 33:00to pass them on.
- 33:02I don't know. I think it uh I didn't
- 33:04feel there was any sort of bombshell in
- 33:06this.
- 33:09Well, the picture kept sort of racing
- 33:12through my brain and uh I wanted to be
- 33:15sure I had it right, so I wrote it down.
- 33:17It was just a
- 33:20a super reflection at 3.4 angstroms and
- 33:24boom boom boom. No one could look at it
- 33:27and say it's not a helix.
- 33:28>> And the reason that Watson realized that
- 33:30it was a helix,
- 33:31>> so you get a cross
- 33:34in the defraction pattern. Well, it just
- 33:36so happened that Crick knew this bit of
- 33:38X-ray defraction theory. And I told
- 33:41Watson that an X indicated a helix.
- 33:44>> Crick's mind was able to absorb bits and
- 33:47pieces from all over the place. And now
- 33:49this was paying off for them.
- 33:51>> You know, I felt, you know, maybe we'll
- 33:54get the answer. You know, until then, I
- 33:56I didn't feel we were close. I felt that
- 33:59picture means we're close.
- 34:02Wilkins undoubtedly and I think if you
- 34:06ask him he will say that he feels that
- 34:08he did uh if there were any cats to be
- 34:11let out of any bags he he he'd done it
- 34:16well I suppose it's perfectly true but I
- 34:18think science isn't supposed to be kept
- 34:20in bags no more than cats I mean I don't
- 34:23know what he he means but uh I mean I
- 34:26don't like as as a scientist sort of
- 34:29working away and sort of saying no
- 34:32wasn't tell the other scientists or
- 34:34something. I don't think it's the way to
- 34:36be working. It's science ought to be an
- 34:39open activity and uh so you can work as
- 34:43as a community.
- 34:46Yeah. Been impossible not to build
- 34:48bottles in after seeing that picture.
- 34:53[Music]
- 35:06Spring came early to Cambridge in 1953.
- 35:10Watson and Crick had been given official
- 35:12permission to return to their work on
- 35:14DNA, and by now they'd managed to
- 35:17acquire all the information they needed.
- 35:20Franklin's photo suggested DNA was some
- 35:23kind of helix.
- 35:25Shagg's data suggested the four
- 35:27chemicals in DNA might go together in
- 35:30pairs.
- 35:31But what was the structure? What was
- 35:34DNA?
- 35:36The Cavendish shop was to build us some
- 35:38tin models and that took too long. And
- 35:42uh you know finally in desperation I
- 35:45made some out of cardboard.
- 35:48I sort of finished the job on Friday and
- 35:51didn't get back into the cavendish
- 35:54probably until much before 9:30 on
- 35:57Saturday morning.
- 36:01So I came in the morning and I began
- 36:03moving them around and I wanted an
- 36:05arrangement, you know, where I had a big
- 36:08and a small.
- 36:12So how did you do it? Somehow you had to
- 36:17to form link bonds. So here's A and
- 36:22here's T. And I wanted this hydrogen to
- 36:27point directly at this nitrogen. So I
- 36:28had something like this.
- 36:33So then I went to the the pair and
- 36:35wanted this nitrogen to point to this
- 36:37one. I went like this. Boom. They look
- 36:40the same.
- 36:43And you can put one right on top of the
- 36:46other.
- 36:48[Music]
- 36:54The two together make the same shape and
- 36:58can go on top of each other like the
- 37:01steps in a staircase
- 37:04or to form a helix,
- 37:06a spiral staircase.
- 37:13So you could have a small one, a big
- 37:15one, a small one, any sequence.
- 37:17If you knew the sequence of one, we knew
- 37:20the sequence of the other.
- 37:25We knew we could just, you know, even if
- 37:27we go up to the ceiling, we were
- 37:28building a tiny fraction of a molecule.
- 37:35[Music]
- 37:36100 million of these base pairs in one
- 37:40molecule. So unbelievably
- 37:43all united by this either AT or TA, GC,
- 37:48CG all fitting into this wonderful
- 37:51symmetry which we saw the morning of
- 37:54February 28th, 1953.
- 37:58What they had was a double helix, a
- 38:02structure that revealed far more about
- 38:04the way life works than they could ever
- 38:06have dreamed of.
- 38:08They've been looking for something that
- 38:09could divide just like cells do. And it
- 38:12was easy to see how a double helix could
- 38:15unwind and form two more double helixes.
- 38:19They've been looking to see if DNA was
- 38:21the script or instructions for all
- 38:23living things. They realized that the
- 38:26millions of G's, A's, T's, and C's must
- 38:29be written in some kind of code, the
- 38:32script of life. And they even saw how
- 38:35the script could be copied exactly.
- 38:38As the double helix unwinds, each of the
- 38:41letters forms a new pair. And because A
- 38:44always goes with T and G always goes
- 38:46with C, the resulting two pieces of DNA
- 38:50are exact copies of the original,
- 38:53enabling the script to be passed from
- 38:55cell to cell and ultimately from
- 38:57generation to generation.
- 39:02It was clear now DNA was the molecule
- 39:05that controlled all living things.
- 39:09Watson and Crick ran straight to the pub
- 39:11where the locals were going to find
- 39:13their news hard to believe.
- 39:16>> It was hard to contain the fact that,
- 39:18you know, maybe we had a gigantic
- 39:21breakthrough. We' done something really
- 39:24important. We had discovered the secret
- 39:26of life.
- 39:29You could say that day was the beginning
- 39:31of the new genetics.
- 39:34They had the idea, but now they wanted
- 39:36to check that it was right. They set
- 39:39about building a tin model as quickly as
- 39:41they could, cross-checking their
- 39:42coordinates with the king's data. It all
- 39:45fitted.
- 39:47Then we had to tell the people at Kings
- 39:49and uh
- 39:52we were a bit apprehensive because we
- 39:54didn't want to say, "Well, we've beaten
- 39:56you."
- 39:58You have to remember that I'd been up
- 40:00before and seen the model that was
- 40:01wrong.
- 40:03Uh,
- 40:05and that gave us a buzz and a high. And
- 40:07then you go up there and you see this
- 40:09thing. It looked right when you saw it.
- 40:13It was so brilliantly,
- 40:16elegantly
- 40:18simple. I thought, "Oh my god, we got
- 40:21scooped."
- 40:22Because I really thought we were going
- 40:24to come up with something like that
- 40:26ourselves.
- 40:28It was terrible, you know, poor Morris.
- 40:31>> I I said that the double helix was a uh
- 40:36somewhat similar to a a young baby
- 40:41standing there all alive and saying, "I
- 40:44I don't care uh what you say or what you
- 40:48think. Um I know I am right."
- 40:54Rosalyn would have been appalled to
- 40:57learn
- 40:59that they had taken quite so much
- 41:03uh detail of her current work and put it
- 41:07into their model.
- 41:08>> I thought you know we behaved as sort of
- 41:11the
- 41:12average person would behave and uh we
- 41:15just thought the people at Kings haven't
- 41:17done the obvious thing. Why didn't they
- 41:19try using their data with asking what
- 41:23the molecule wanted to do?
- 41:27Rosalyn Franklin kept her distance from
- 41:29the other characters in this story. She
- 41:32spent her time working alone in her lab.
- 41:36People have wondered how close she got
- 41:38to finding the structure of DNA. The
- 41:40only way to know is to visit this
- 41:42archive in Cambridge where her notebooks
- 41:45are kept. Her notes suggest that she
- 41:48nearly got there. In one of her final
- 41:51entries, she is thinking in terms of a
- 41:53twochain or double helix,
- 41:57but that's as far as she got. She died
- 42:00just 5 years later without ever being
- 42:02told the extent to which Watson and
- 42:04Crick used her data. And when the Nobel
- 42:07Prizes were awarded for the discovery,
- 42:09she didn't get one because Nobel prizes
- 42:11aren't awarded postuously.
- 42:15People that knew her say that what she
- 42:17cared about most was that her work moved
- 42:20science forward. It was one of the few
- 42:23things she had in common with Morris
- 42:25Wilkins. Without their work, Watson and
- 42:28Crick could not have built this model.
- 42:31And the model was just the beginning.
- 42:35Over the next two decades, scientists
- 42:37delved into the molecular world of DNA
- 42:40and discovered how it actually controls
- 42:42life. But the person who did more than
- 42:45anyone to unravel its mysteries was a
- 42:48genius called Francis Crick.
- 42:52Today he's at the Sulk Institute,
- 42:54California. In one interview he did talk
- 42:57about what for him came after the double
- 42:59helix. It involves thinking beyond what
- 43:02he calls the narrow limits of normal
- 43:05human experience.
- 43:07Now when you want to understand the
- 43:09world you have to go you have to go
- 43:11beyond those narrow limits both in up
- 43:14and down both in space and time and then
- 43:16you find that there's a uniformity and
- 43:19extraordinary things happening which you
- 43:20had no idea of just looking at the world
- 43:23and it's this is the fascination of
- 43:24science really I think to uncover so
- 43:27much which is not apparent just in
- 43:30everyday life.
- 43:34Today we can see the molecular world.
- 43:38This is a computer representation of DNA
- 43:41based on accurate data.
- 43:44It's a long way from ball and spoke
- 43:46model building.
- 43:49What was apparent was that everything in
- 43:51the molecular world is more strange and
- 43:54sophisticated than anyone had thought.
- 43:57>> Biological systems are the result of
- 44:00evolution and they produce very
- 44:01complicated things. Now the reason that
- 44:04DNA look looks so beautiful and simple
- 44:06is it goes right back to near the
- 44:08origins of life where things had to be
- 44:11simple but if you actually look at the
- 44:13actual process of DNA replication
- 44:16it isn't at all the way that it we used
- 44:18to describe all sorts of funny things
- 44:21happen you have to have proteins which
- 44:23will unwind the helix and nick it and
- 44:25then join it together again you get an
- 44:28enormously barack complicated
- 44:31apparatus which one might say molecular
- 44:34gadgetry which actually does the job.
- 44:37>> This is how the chemical code of DNA
- 44:40copies itself. But Crick was focusing on
- 44:43what the DNA code ultimately did and
- 44:46that involved unpicking the gadgets of
- 44:48the molecular world.
- 44:50>> What's sometimes called reverse
- 44:52engineering, it happens in the in the
- 44:54commercial world when one firm produces
- 44:57a gadget and another firm buys it and
- 44:59tries to take it to pieces and find how
- 45:01it works. That's called reverse
- 45:03engineering. But in our case, it's
- 45:05reverse engineering what you might call
- 45:07a foreign culture.
- 45:10>> As a result of that process, it's
- 45:12possible to see how DNA makes living
- 45:15things. How a simple code is turned into
- 45:18flesh and blood.
- 45:23The blue molecule racing down the DNA
- 45:26unzips the double helix and copies one
- 45:29of the two strands.
- 45:32This copy is then released for the next
- 45:34stage of the process.
- 45:40The yellow copy feeds into another
- 45:43machine which deciphers the code and
- 45:46orders up the right components one unit
- 45:48at a time from the surrounding chemical
- 45:51soup.
- 45:56The product of this machine is protein.
- 46:00This could be a thousandth of an
- 46:01eyebrow. The same process could make a
- 46:04tiger's claw or part of the wings of a
- 46:07dove. It's the same for all life.
- 46:11What is made is all down to the DNA, the
- 46:14specific order of the chemical code.
- 46:19And today, these machines can read the
- 46:21DNA code. How a person is made is being
- 46:25revealed. How a brain is built is being
- 46:28explained in the G's, A's, T's, and C's.
- 46:32They are beginning to read differences
- 46:34in our characters and personality.
- 46:46Um the genetics of of human nature
- 46:52is slowly unfolding.
- 46:55>> Even our story can be seen in this way.
- 46:58The fate of our characters determined by
- 47:01their individual natures.
- 47:04>> I thought the problem would last me my
- 47:06lifetime. I had no idea it would be
- 47:08solved within 20 years.
- 47:11You see, I was I mean it was
- 47:13embarrassing almost to got to the stage
- 47:14where instead of this problem lasting
- 47:16for one's life, one had to look around
- 47:18for another problem.
- 47:20So now Francis Crick is trying to find
- 47:22out how the brain works. He has always
- 47:25just been interested in making new
- 47:27discoveries.
- 47:31Jim Watson is president of Cold Spring
- 47:33Harbor Laboratories.
- 47:35He's built a house on the grounds with a
- 47:37statue of the double helix in his
- 47:40garden.
- 47:43He gives lectures arguing for the
- 47:45benefits of genetic engineering.
- 47:50There are people who say, "Well, we're
- 47:52playing God."
- 47:56And you know, I have a straightforward
- 47:58answer. If we don't play God, who will?
- 48:02Yeah.
- 48:10[Music]
- 48:17and Morris Wilkins couldn't be more
- 48:19different.
- 48:20[Music]
- 48:23Having worked on the atomic bomb, he
- 48:25chose to study DNA because he thought it
- 48:28wouldn't be controversial.
- 48:31Today, as the newspapers talk of
- 48:33creating designer babies and the birth
- 48:35of human clones, he lectures at King's
- 48:38College London about the social
- 48:40responsibility of science.
- 48:43He hopes the human race will use this
- 48:46knowledge wisely.
- 48:49[Music]
- 49:07[Music]
- 49:28[Applause]
- 49:29[Music]
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