Disrupt 2026 London - Building AI that works and bringing your people on the journey at scale — Transcript
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- 0:00Heat up
- 0:29here. Heat. Heat.
- 1:04Heat. Heat.
- 1:34In any one day, hundreds of thousands of
- 1:37DHL employees will deliver excellence
- 1:40for our customers all over the world,
- 1:43creating millions of connections with
- 1:45our brand. Everything they do has the
- 1:48hallmark of DHL quality, trust, and
- 1:51reliability. Every shipment processed,
- 1:54every heart touched, every email
- 1:57answered, every floor swept, every care
- 2:01taken, every detail matters for our
- 2:05sustainable growth.
- 2:09They're
- 2:14the next.
- 2:29Wow.
- 2:30Yeah. Don't play it again.
- 2:33Make sure it's going to go to the right
- 2:35bits.
- 2:40Okay, it's going to start playing
- 2:41another video, which I don't think it
- 2:43should be doing. Oh, there we are. Yay,
- 2:45we got there. Thank you. I feel
- 2:47immensely immensely proud to represent
- 2:50DHL and DHL Express today. Um, and I
- 2:54first came to disrupt four years ago
- 2:56when I first transitioned into this
- 2:58industry. And at the time, I thought I'd
- 3:02made a terrible mistake. Not by coming
- 3:05to disrupt, don't get me wrong, but I
- 3:08was desperate to get back to the
- 3:10commercial world that I knew. However,
- 3:13it was coming to this environment when I
- 3:16saw the possibilities, the potential,
- 3:20the passion
- 3:21and I was inspired to be a disruptor.
- 3:25And that changed my future and it
- 3:27changed my career to the point that
- 3:30three years later I was now sat on the
- 3:32board for DHL Express UK. Something I
- 3:36never thought was possible. So when
- 3:38Sabier approached me and asked me to
- 3:40share my story, I was really intrigued
- 3:42to understand what was it about DHL's
- 3:45approach, scalability or customer focus
- 3:48they wanted me to share. But no, what I
- 3:51got back instead, which was in a
- 3:53Glaswegian accent, was no Jen, we want
- 3:56you to share what you got wrong.
- 3:58So last year I led one of the UK's
- 4:02largest digital transformations that
- 4:05spanned four departments and over a
- 4:07thousand people and it didn't go to
- 4:10plan. And I instantly learned that with
- 4:13complexity comes fear and fear doesn't
- 4:16announce it shelf itself. It shows up
- 4:20with resistance, control, and failure.
- 4:24So, I'm going to share what I got wrong,
- 4:28what I learned, and what leadership
- 4:31should and shouldn't look like when the
- 4:33ground is moving beneath your feet and
- 4:35the future looks uncertain. And what I
- 4:38learned was uncomfortable and necessary.
- 4:41And I'll share my first quote, which is
- 4:43my theme for today, which is if you fear
- 4:46going in, then in you must go.
- 4:49And at DHL, our purpose is simple.
- 4:52connecting people and improving lives.
- 4:54And we do that through the world's most
- 4:56global connected network of 220
- 4:59countries and territories. And our brand
- 5:02represents
- 5:04millions of customers every single year.
- 5:07But we're not just a logistics business.
- 5:10We're also a people's business.
- 5:13And we have over 111,000 employees,
- 5:164,000 in the UK. And if you combined all
- 5:19five divisions, we're over 400,000.
- 5:23Culture, compassion, care, and
- 5:25responsibility matter at this scale. And
- 5:28I'm immensely passionate about people,
- 5:30but I'm really, really passionate about
- 5:32our fleets. I love our fleets. And every
- 5:34night, hundreds of our aircraft take off
- 5:37carrying our customer promise of
- 5:39excellence simply delivered. And I'm
- 5:41that geeky about our planes that when I
- 5:44stay at our UK hub every week by East
- 5:46Midlands airport, I stay just at a hotel
- 5:49just outside East Midlands and I time my
- 5:52evening runs so I can watch the Boeing
- 5:55trip 7 and 767 from Cincinnati and
- 5:58Lifcick coming into van coming into land
- 6:02and they for me are a physical
- 6:04representation of that trust,
- 6:06reliability and speed.
- 6:09But that doesn't end on the runway. That
- 6:11extends to our nearly 500 strong
- 6:15customer service team and the experience
- 6:17that they deliver every single day. Now,
- 6:21we operate in a really complex
- 6:23environment. And don't talk to me about
- 6:25dimminimus or Trump or geopolitical
- 6:28challenges, but in CS, we have to adapt
- 6:32as the race unfolds.
- 6:35But the beauty of DHL is that we're a
- 6:38global connected network. Not just in
- 6:41logistics, but also in customer service.
- 6:43And whether you contact us in Argentina,
- 6:46Austria, Australia or Austin, Texas, you
- 6:50get the high level quality of service.
- 6:53And we are a network and we work as one.
- 6:56We have the same daily monthly KPIs. So,
- 7:00eight daily, 15 monthly, and a scorecard
- 7:03that is always in motion. And the
- 7:06pressure is real, but the pressure is
- 7:08not an excuse for control. And the thing
- 7:11that I love and I'm passionate about is
- 7:13the space and freedom in between those
- 7:15metrics and those KPIs,
- 7:18the creativity, the flexibility, and
- 7:20what I call the plumbing and the poetry.
- 7:23And that is where the magic happens.
- 7:26However, these KPIs are taken deadly
- 7:29seriously and if I miss one element on
- 7:32one day, a vast amount of important
- 7:35people are notified, including the
- 7:36global CEO, to go, "Jen messed up
- 7:39today." I just want you to remember that
- 7:41point because it's fundamentally a place
- 7:43that you do not want to be. However, my
- 7:46ambitions and my team's ambitions go far
- 7:49beyond just hitting KPIs. We want to be
- 7:52a loyalty engine, a revenue generator, a
- 7:55data and insight center for the rest of
- 7:57the business, a strategic voice at the
- 8:00table. To be a part of the solution and
- 8:02the product, not there to fix the
- 8:04problem, to be a true business partner
- 8:06to sustainable growth, to be a true
- 8:09innovator and to represent the voice of
- 8:11the customer. Now, going into 2025,
- 8:16we were building our new tech and our
- 8:19new tools. And I believe our ambition
- 8:22and our tools need to be built for the
- 8:24world that is becoming, not the one that
- 8:27we have today or the one that we wish it
- 8:30still had or was.
- 8:33Now, we had a great change culture and
- 8:35when I first came into role 18 months
- 8:37ago, I set up a project called Project
- 8:39Evolve and that was about making sure
- 8:42that our people were agile and adaptive
- 8:44to change. They were used to
- 8:46enhancements and development of our
- 8:49tools and we had gone full automation as
- 8:52much as possible on the tools that we
- 8:54had and we had dipped our toe in the AI
- 8:57waters
- 9:00and we used our tools for what mattered.
- 9:03So things like knowledge, learning, even
- 9:06well-being which we could measure on a
- 9:08weekly basis,
- 9:14but it was about removing friction from
- 9:16our people and our customers.
- 9:19Engagement was high and we were
- 9:22considered a role model around the
- 9:24world. Not only how we had used our
- 9:26tools but also how my amazing team had
- 9:29helped shape them.
- 9:32So, the last few years, DHL globally has
- 9:35been rolling out a cloud-based CRM
- 9:37system, which is with Service Now, and
- 9:40we were due to go live in June 2025.
- 9:44And we weren't necessarily the first
- 9:45wave of countries to go live, but we
- 9:47were certainly one of the biggest. And I
- 9:50understand upgrading your CRM system
- 9:54isn't just a tech upgrade. It
- 9:56fundamentally changes the way that you
- 9:58work.
- 10:00See, legacy systems are built for
- 10:02stability
- 10:04and cloud-based systems are built are
- 10:06built for potential possibility and
- 10:10adaptability. And it's that adaptation
- 10:13that really matters because just like in
- 10:16F1, you can't wait for certainty. You
- 10:19need to read the race as it unfolds.
- 10:22And even during transformation, we knew
- 10:24that progress would feel harder and
- 10:26things would feel more difficult. And in
- 10:29this rollout system, we were going from
- 10:31the legacy system to the cloud-based
- 10:33system overnight.
- 10:36But based on the ambitions and the
- 10:37success that we had, we decided to go
- 10:40big bang. So something no other
- 10:42countries had done before. And that is
- 10:45full tool adoption, full automation from
- 10:48day one. But we understood what had got
- 10:52us here was not going to let get us to
- 10:54the next level of performance.
- 10:58I believe in pragmatic enthusiasm and
- 11:00grounded optimism when it comes to
- 11:02driving change and I drive my team mad
- 11:05with that.
- 11:07But I don't believe people respond to
- 11:09pessimism. They belong they are impacted
- 11:13by belief, clarity and momentum.
- 11:17So we started driving change with
- 11:20engaging communications that had a
- 11:22simple goal of building confidence in
- 11:25the direction that we were heading. We
- 11:28did hands-on testing, but we didn't have
- 11:30a live environment because of the
- 11:32complexity of our network. We did
- 11:35targeting training that focused on
- 11:37confidence, not just compliance. And
- 11:39something that Scott can relate to, due
- 11:41to resource challenges, we were actually
- 11:43training people weeks and weeks in
- 11:46advance of the system going live. And we
- 11:49had a launch,
- 11:51great launch that would was filled in
- 11:54with purpose and energy. And our aim was
- 11:57simple to take our people from
- 12:00uncertainty to clarity and to continue
- 12:03on that se successful change momentum
- 12:06that we had.
- 12:13So, some of you may recognize this
- 12:15image.
- 12:18So, this is from Star Wars Empire
- 12:21Strikes Back. And this is Dabar just
- 12:24after Luke crashes his X-wing into the
- 12:27swamp.
- 12:29So, his intention was right and his
- 12:32mission was right, but suddenly nothing
- 12:34looked and felt like he had expected.
- 12:37just like my it's falling out.
- 12:43And this in many ways was where we found
- 12:45ourselves.
- 12:46Our intention was right, but we had
- 12:49massively underestimated the impact on
- 12:52our people and the fear and identity
- 12:55that the change brought. Our tech had
- 12:58moved faster than our people and our
- 13:01processes. And like I said, we had
- 13:04pushed f really hard on that full
- 13:06adoption from day one. But instead of
- 13:09finding ourselves in some kind of new
- 13:11hope, we found ourselves in some kind of
- 13:14false hope. And what was the impact?
- 13:20So well-being and engagement. So we
- 13:23measure well-being on a weekly basis.
- 13:26and well-being had dropped so low so
- 13:29instantly. It was only comparable to a
- 13:32time which was two years ago where two
- 13:35people had passed away in quick
- 13:36succession and impacted our well-being.
- 13:39So my people were feeling the pain.
- 13:44Absence increased. Average handle
- 13:47average handling time went through the
- 13:48roof. And we were dealing with queue
- 13:51sizes that we'd never dealt with before.
- 13:53and we simply didn't have the resources
- 13:56to be able to deal with the customer
- 13:57demands
- 13:59and therefore my KPIs were impacted
- 14:03and in the first week I had four red
- 14:06KPIs four notifications sent to the
- 14:10global CEO to say Jen messed up again
- 14:13today
- 14:19customer experience was impacted
- 14:22and I was getting a lot of noise and I
- 14:25also could feel the impact from the rest
- 14:27of the business
- 14:30and I knew I was impacting our brand
- 14:32integrity.
- 14:34At the time I was only four months in
- 14:37role sitting on the board and I knew
- 14:39going into that process that I was not a
- 14:42favored candidate. The CEO that had put
- 14:44me in position was no longer there and
- 14:47we had a new CEO who I'd only met once
- 14:50prior to the roll out.
- 14:52So if honestly I felt like my reputation
- 14:55was in tatters.
- 14:59However, the thing that really bothered
- 15:01me more than anything is I genuinely
- 15:04care for my people and I felt like I'd
- 15:07let them down. There was real moments of
- 15:10frustration and genuine tears all
- 15:13around.
- 15:14And on the second week where things
- 15:16weren't getting better and I just got my
- 15:19fifth red KPI and I'd met my CEO for the
- 15:23second time. This was an image that was
- 15:26snapped of me one evening by one of my
- 15:29team and I'm really glad I've got this
- 15:32image to look back on. But I was in my
- 15:34very own swamp
- 15:36and just like Luke, I had to go into the
- 15:39cave and face my fears. And there was
- 15:42real misalignment to what I thought I
- 15:45knew and what the reality was.
- 15:48So what did I do?
- 15:51I knew that hundreds of people were
- 15:52relying on me and thousands of
- 15:54customers. So I needed to lead from a
- 15:57place of presence and not panic. And if
- 16:01knowledge is power, knowing what you
- 16:03don't know is wisdom. And it was really
- 16:06really clear there was a lot I didn't
- 16:08know. However, with the amazing support
- 16:12of my team, we took a step back and
- 16:15tried to look at how we could recover,
- 16:18how we could listen and to rebuild our
- 16:20performance.
- 16:22So, first things is we stopped trying to
- 16:24please everybody and as a natural people
- 16:26pleaser, I find that really, really
- 16:28difficult. We looked at where we could
- 16:30get quick wins and incremental gains
- 16:32from a performance perspective. And that
- 16:34fundamentally meant protecting certain
- 16:37people, areas, and KPIs more than
- 16:40others. And you can imagine that wasn't
- 16:42necessarily the most popular solution.
- 16:45The thing that I love that shouldn't
- 16:47have come up there, that heyi ho. The
- 16:50thing that I love more than anything was
- 16:54hunting the good. So one thing that we
- 16:56started doing is we started being
- 16:58attuned to what was working well even in
- 17:02in amongst the chaos and the whirlwind
- 17:06and we spotlighted models of excellence
- 17:08and we created new best practices.
- 17:13So this going back to my well-being
- 17:14graph because it should have come on the
- 17:16last slide. You can see the dip there
- 17:18which was the service now roll out and
- 17:20two years prior to when we had had two
- 17:23people pass away in quick succession.
- 17:26So back to so we hunted the good and we
- 17:29realized that tech determines what we do
- 17:32but it's the culture that determines
- 17:34whether it works. We had clear measures
- 17:36of success and we chose data over dogma.
- 17:39I repurposed my knowledge retention tool
- 17:43to tell us whether people were feeling
- 17:46confident about the tool. And we used
- 17:49this tool to tell us which areas, which
- 17:52departments, which individuals needed
- 17:54more focus, attention, and training. So
- 17:56rather than doing a scatter gun
- 17:58approach, we could be really targeted to
- 18:00make sure that we got the right support
- 18:01to the right people quick enough.
- 18:04We created trust and engagement which
- 18:07sounds easy but it really really is not.
- 18:10We did this through a continuous
- 18:12improvement rhythm through a see it,
- 18:15sort it, fix it hub where our people
- 18:17could come to us and tell us where their
- 18:19pain points were, whether it be
- 18:21processes or new like tech or tiny
- 18:24little issues and we could use that data
- 18:27and me and my team would ask ourselves,
- 18:30what can we fix today? And that created
- 18:33a momentum of trust. But we also faced
- 18:37the really hard truths, being really
- 18:40honest with our people about the
- 18:41mistakes that we had made. And me and my
- 18:43team found a way to connect with every
- 18:45single individual within our contact
- 18:47center. And I went to every department
- 18:49within my business, especially my
- 18:51commercial team, with my tail between my
- 18:53legs. And I was really honest about the
- 18:55mistakes that I'd made and what I was
- 18:57trying to do to get out of it.
- 19:02But most importantly at all of all and I
- 19:05love this is the human connection. And
- 19:08again Scott wherever he is could
- 19:09probably relate to this. The first thing
- 19:11to go is the engagement, the motivation
- 19:14and the connection activities. But this
- 19:16is really important and we made sure
- 19:19that we still had this effort with our
- 19:21people because they're not rational
- 19:23robots or droids. They respond to
- 19:26belief, identity and belonging.
- 19:30And just like Luke's X-wing, we didn't
- 19:33get out of the swamp through force or
- 19:36control. We did it with patience,
- 19:39belief, but actually it was the support
- 19:41of others.
- 19:44So what do we learn about our
- 19:46transformation? And we go um live with
- 19:49Genesis um in September. So we're taking
- 19:52these things forward, but there is no
- 19:54app for transformation. Leadership is no
- 19:57longer about knowing and telling, but
- 20:00it's about seeing, asking, unleashing,
- 20:03and provoking.
- 20:06It's about driving a direction, but also
- 20:10to build trust with your people because
- 20:13fear will shut down any innovation and
- 20:15engagement quicker than any fail tech.
- 20:18So, engage early. When you don't have
- 20:20the answers, you don't have the details.
- 20:23People will catastrophize far more than
- 20:25anything you could tell them. You have
- 20:28to learn to lead with ambiguity.
- 20:31Being open and honest about failure and
- 20:34the bumps in the road that's going to
- 20:35happen. We normalize failure as a
- 20:39natural progression to progress.
- 20:43We recognize that fear and uncertainty
- 20:46naturally impacts people's well-being
- 20:48and it can't simply be talked away.
- 20:52Feedback loops are critical.
- 20:55People are engaged with not only what
- 20:57they help build, but support, but most
- 21:01importantly, what we learned, they help
- 21:03fix as well.
- 21:06Because transformation or leading
- 21:08through a transformation when there's
- 21:11disruption, when the map is blank, isn't
- 21:14about being fearless. It's about being
- 21:16fluid.
- 21:19having conviction but also the humility
- 21:21to change course when reality demands it
- 21:28and think beyond the initial roll out. I
- 21:31think what we've all heard today
- 21:33transformation is no longer an event.
- 21:36It's a consistent rhythm. It's a cadence
- 21:41and therefore you need to create
- 21:42operating systems and habits that allow
- 21:45change to continue and never stall.
- 21:49So, where are we now? I will never know
- 21:52if going big bang was the right thing to
- 21:55do. And honestly, no other country that
- 21:58has gone live with this system has done
- 22:01that. Still, only me.
- 22:05However, I'm pleased to say that we now
- 22:08have consistent performance and a
- 22:11continuous improvement culture. We've
- 22:14identified our early adopters and we now
- 22:17have a fail forward and failing
- 22:20acceptance culture. We are really clear
- 22:23on our measures of success, but I'm
- 22:25constantly running little experiments
- 22:27and what I like to call a little
- 22:29scientific culture where we move forward
- 22:32together.
- 22:34Credibility has stabilized,
- 22:36I think.
- 22:38And although I have lots of pilots going
- 22:40on, I'm now leading two global pilots.
- 22:43One which is customs, which is a whole
- 22:45new world to me, which I'm learning,
- 22:47which is not very simple. Um, but the
- 22:50thing I'm most excited about, as of
- 22:52yesterday, we went live with a more
- 22:54advanced Aenti pilot with Service Now.
- 22:58But even in just that roll out, I
- 23:00learned that AI doesn't reduce
- 23:02ambiguity, it increases it. you have
- 23:05more choice, more answers, more
- 23:07complexity. So, we've made it really
- 23:10explicit with our people. And I stole
- 23:12this, by the way, from the snowflake
- 23:14CEO.
- 23:16You automate the repetitive. You augment
- 23:19the creative.
- 23:21You protect the human where it matters,
- 23:24but you use AI with intention, not
- 23:27replacement and not avoidance.
- 23:31I have a business before function
- 23:33mindset. I'm no longer looking at silos.
- 23:37It's about how CS can support strategic
- 23:40growth for the business. Our strategy is
- 23:43directly linked to the business strategy
- 23:45on people, quality, cost excellence, and
- 23:49sustainable growth.
- 23:51I no longer have a plan. I have a
- 23:53direction.
- 23:56And that direction is really clear. We
- 23:59have a relentless pursuit for that
- 24:01customer connection. We need to create a
- 24:04people culture that we're proud of.
- 24:06We're striving for continuous and never-
- 24:09ending improvement, but most
- 24:11importantly, we disrupt the status quo.
- 24:16So, when you're scaling AI, leading
- 24:18transformations, doing pilots,
- 24:22there's a moment that all of us will
- 24:25want to pause
- 24:27and wait for certainty.
- 24:29But we simply don't have that luxury
- 24:32anymore.
- 24:34We need leaders who are brave, who are
- 24:37willing to move before they're ready.
- 24:39Not because they're reckless, because
- 24:42standing still is a bigger risk. And you
- 24:44may end up in a cave or a swamp just
- 24:47like me. And I've got absolutely no
- 24:49doubt in my mind I will end up there
- 24:51again at some point. But the future of
- 24:54the leaders in this industry don't
- 24:56belong to those who are waiting for
- 24:58certainty. They belong to those who are
- 25:00willing to step forward while the map is
- 25:03being drawn. Those who are willing to be
- 25:05part of the resistance for the status
- 25:08quo. We've learned that making mistakes
- 25:11isn't failure. Avoiding them is. And if
- 25:15you avoid risk, you avoid learning. If
- 25:18you avoid learning, you avoid
- 25:20progression. And that is the true path
- 25:23to the dark side.
- 25:25You can't scale AI without connection.
- 25:29And the tools and tech will determine
- 25:32what you do, but it's your connection to
- 25:34it will determine whether it works. And
- 25:37we need leaders who look different.
- 25:40Leaders who are less certain but more
- 25:43curious,
- 25:44less controlling, more empowering, and
- 25:48build tools, texts, and systems that are
- 25:51able to be fluid and flex and adaptive.
- 25:55and leaders that don't freeze when the
- 25:57path looks uncertain.
- 26:00And just like in Star Wars, heroes don't
- 26:04wait for perfect conditions. They move
- 26:07anyway.
- 26:09They learn, they adapt, and they make
- 26:12choices. And what they choose is
- 26:15innovation over inertia,
- 26:19courage over comfort. But most
- 26:22importantly, they choose to disrupt over
- 26:26default.
- 26:27And that is the leadership that our
- 26:29future deserves. Thank you.
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