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  18. 0:37On the program today, we've got a
  19. 0:39returning guest back to update. Mr. Mark
  20. 0:41English is on the podcast. Mark is the
  21. 0:44managing director of Aric Mining, a
  22. 0:46Western Australia focused gold producer
  23. 0:48and project developer with conventional
  24. 0:51open pit operations in the Calgori and
  25. 0:53Norsemen regions of Western Australia's
  26. 0:56gold fields including the operating
  27. 0:58Munda gold mine exploration and
  28. 1:01development projects including
  29. 1:02Spargoville Loaded Dog and Lindsay's
  30. 1:05projects. Arc Mining also holds the
  31. 1:08Burbanks processing facility which is
  32. 1:10expected to provide an in-house
  33. 1:11processing facility in the coming years
  34. 1:13to the company. Arc Mining is listed on
  35. 1:16the Australian Securities Exchange under
  36. 1:18the symbol AWJ,
  37. 1:22Mr. English. It's good to have you back
  38. 1:24on the program. Welcome.
  39. 1:26>> Fantastic, Andrew. Delighted to be back.
  40. 1:29>> Yeah, Mark. Good to have you back on.
  41. 1:30And uh you guys of course have been busy
  42. 1:32since we last spoke and the gold market
  43. 1:35uh seems to be moving right along in our
  44. 1:37favor. Well, thanks for coming back to
  45. 1:39update. Why don't we first get right
  46. 1:42into company updates. The company has
  47. 1:45initiated first or shipments from the
  48. 1:48Munda mine starter pit hauling to the
  49. 1:51Lakewood Mill for processing under toll
  50. 1:53arrangement and expected total of about
  51. 1:5660,000 tons of ore for this first phase
  52. 1:59of processing. Talk about that.
  53. 2:02>> Yes, Andrew. We're delighted with the
  54. 2:05way everything's progressing. We started
  55. 2:07mining the starter pit at Munda in May
  56. 2:10this year. It's going to take about 5 to
  57. 2:126 months to mine the starter pit or body
  58. 2:16and we've been tracking the ore up to
  59. 2:19Calguli which is about 100 kilometers
  60. 2:21away now for a couple of weeks and it
  61. 2:24started processing through the Lakewood
  62. 2:26Mill last Sunday the 12th of October and
  63. 2:30today's a very auspicious day for us
  64. 2:32because later on today will be our
  65. 2:34maiden gold pour at the Lakewood Mill.
  66. 2:37Mark, great to hear and congratulations
  67. 2:39on that achievement there and looking
  68. 2:41forward to further production coming out
  69. 2:43of that and further ramp up there at
  70. 2:45Munda. Is this a good time maybe we'll
  71. 2:47talk about cost profile for just a
  72. 2:49moment at Munda. Just give us a bit of a
  73. 2:51highlight there as to what you guys
  74. 2:53would expect the cost profile to be once
  75. 2:56it's up and running.
  76. 2:58>> Okay. So I I'll talk in Australian
  77. 3:00dollar terms. Everybody knows that gold
  78. 3:03is principally quoted in US dollars, but
  79. 3:05in Aussie dollars, the starter pit is
  80. 3:08going to be more expensive than where we
  81. 3:10believe the main pit will be. That's
  82. 3:12necessarily because of just the the high
  83. 3:15startup cost, grading roads, building
  84. 3:17infrastructure, getting portable
  85. 3:19accommodation out there. So, as I said,
  86. 3:22Andrew, we're going to do about 125,000
  87. 3:26tons in the starter pit. When we did
  88. 3:28that design for the starter pit, we
  89. 3:30estimated to produce around 6,100 ounces
  90. 3:33of gold. In AUD terms, our our profile
  91. 3:37is going to be around near $3,300
  92. 3:40Australian, give or take 10%.
  93. 3:43>> And Mark, after that, as you guys get up
  94. 3:46and running steady state, everything's
  95. 3:47going well, and you guys are into the
  96. 3:49main pit, any expectation on how you
  97. 3:51would see that looking from a cost
  98. 3:52perspective?
  99. 3:53>> Uh, it's changed so much, Andrew. The
  100. 3:56last time we did a scoping study is now
  101. 3:58redundant and out of date. We've got a
  102. 4:01lot of work that we are going to have to
  103. 4:02do in 2026 and we'll be completing that
  104. 4:06work throughout 2026 and towards the end
  105. 4:09of next year. We'll be announcing a
  106. 4:11detailed scoping study and all those
  107. 4:14cost profiles and and input costs. With
  108. 4:17the with the rise rising gold price,
  109. 4:20Andrew, as you would appreciate, um the
  110. 4:22whole dynamics changed. you know, the
  111. 4:24amount of dirt you're going to move, the
  112. 4:26cut off grade of your gold, um, all
  113. 4:29those all those input costs are going to
  114. 4:31change so substantially. I really
  115. 4:33couldn't give your listeners any any
  116. 4:36feel for our costs going forward.
  117. 4:38>> Well, we'll look forward to seeing that
  118. 4:40as we move ahead here. Well, before we
  119. 4:42move into the other projects, Mark,
  120. 4:43during September, the company released
  121. 4:45its halfyear results ended 30 June. Talk
  122. 4:49about those operational results and your
  123. 4:51expectations to finish up the year.
  124. 4:54Yeah. Um, so those results that we
  125. 4:56announced 30th of June, so that's our
  126. 4:58half year. We're a 31st December year
  127. 5:01end company. Those results principally,
  128. 5:04Andrew, are in relation to the Jeffre
  129. 5:06Fine gold mine. We wrapped up the
  130. 5:08arrangements with Jeffre find in that
  131. 5:10period. You may recall that we were
  132. 5:13doing a joint venture arrangement with a
  133. 5:15company called BML Ventures. Look, our
  134. 5:18revenue, we're still a small business,
  135. 5:20Andrew, at this point in time. Our
  136. 5:22revenue was circa $8.5 million
  137. 5:24Australian. We made a net profit before
  138. 5:27tax of a bit over $4 million. After we
  139. 5:30added back some non-cash items,
  140. 5:32depreciation, amortization, mine
  141. 5:35rehabilitation costs, we had an adjusted
  142. 5:37net profit of about 5.8 million, which
  143. 5:40is a great place to be for a small
  144. 5:42company. We've been able to not raise
  145. 5:44equity because we've been able to
  146. 5:46monetize our assets and produce our own
  147. 5:49operating cash flow.
  148. 5:51with that at Jeffrey's find you guys are
  149. 5:54in wrap-up stages there. Expected final
  150. 5:57revenues I believe from the project are
  151. 5:59supposed to come in as far as the the
  152. 6:01final payments there with the partner
  153. 6:03towards the end of the year. Any
  154. 6:05comments there and outlook as to when
  155. 6:07you'll see that be 100% and closed out?
  156. 6:11>> Yeah, we've received subsequent to the
  157. 6:1330th of June, we've received another
  158. 6:15$1.4 million profit distribution. So
  159. 6:19there's not much more to come. Andrew um
  160. 6:21the rehabilitation costs that work is
  161. 6:24being done at the moment. So Jeffrey's
  162. 6:26find all up Andrew from the total time
  163. 6:29that we bought the project. We bought
  164. 6:31the project and our development costs in
  165. 6:34cash about $1.5 million and we're going
  166. 6:37to get a return out of that somewhere
  167. 6:40between 14 and $15 million over a
  168. 6:43threeyear period.
  169. 6:45>> Very well. Definitely. It's been a good
  170. 6:47project for the company. and help the
  171. 6:49company to advance uh towards some of
  172. 6:51these other projects and acquisitions
  173. 6:52you guys have done subsequently to that.
  174. 6:54I appreciate the update on that Mark and
  175. 6:56looking forward to seeing that finish
  176. 6:58up. Why don't we shift over briefly here
  177. 7:01to the company announced in September as
  178. 7:04well that it had completed the
  179. 7:07acquisition of the Burbanks processing
  180. 7:09plant. Mark, talk about that news as
  181. 7:11well as the initial focus there to
  182. 7:14potentially put this plant back into
  183. 7:17operation in the coming years.
  184. 7:20>> Yeah, thanks Andrew. So, the Burbanks
  185. 7:22facility has been around for quite a
  186. 7:24while. It's located about 10 kilometers
  187. 7:27southwest of Kulgadi, so nice and close
  188. 7:29to a fairly major town. Kulgadi is about
  189. 7:3340ks from Kgouli. So that your listeners
  190. 7:36mostly know Calguli better than Kolgati.
  191. 7:39So you're talking only a very short
  192. 7:41distance from time. The Burbanks
  193. 7:44facility was originally required by
  194. 7:46Romelius for the Wadd Dam deposit. I'm
  195. 7:49sure a lot of your listeners have heard
  196. 7:51of the Wadd Dam deposit in West
  197. 7:53Australia. It was an outstanding asset
  198. 7:55for Romelius and was actually the
  199. 7:58project that got Romelius going. So,
  200. 8:01this plant, Andrew, hasn't been
  201. 8:03operational for about five years, five
  202. 8:05or six years. It last operated in 2019.
  203. 8:09We've acquired it for a very cheap
  204. 8:12bargain basement price. Um, we bought it
  205. 8:15off the mortgage in possession. There
  206. 8:17was some financing issues with the
  207. 8:19previous vendors. And why have we bought
  208. 8:22it? We bought it principally for a
  209. 8:24variety of factors. One is location.
  210. 8:27Two, it's got BMAN Road to the front
  211. 8:29gate. Three, it's got threephase power.
  212. 8:33Four, it's got water. It's got water BS,
  213. 8:36water licenses. It's got tailing storage
  214. 8:39facilities. It's on granted mining
  215. 8:41leases. And it's fully permitted. So,
  216. 8:44our acquisition cost was $4.4 million,
  217. 8:48which is a notional price. Okay. The
  218. 8:51reason we did it was principally if you
  219. 8:53started off with a clean piece of paper,
  220. 8:56it would cost you more than or cost you
  221. 8:58well more than 4.4 4 million to get it
  222. 9:01to that stage and more importantly the
  223. 9:04time saving is substantial.
  224. 9:08It's our estimate that we've made sure
  225. 9:09knocked 3 to 5 years off our timeline if
  226. 9:12we were starting from a clean piece of
  227. 9:14paper. So we've already engaged mining
  228. 9:18and geotech and metallurgists to start
  229. 9:22work on what to do with the mill. Okay.
  230. 9:24So there's various options. It's
  231. 9:27currently gazetted at a 200,000 ton per
  232. 9:29panum plant which is tiny. So we're
  233. 9:33looking at either A just getting it up
  234. 9:35and running as a 200,000 ton plant, b
  235. 9:40getting it up and running with the
  236. 9:41ability to scale it up or c basically
  237. 9:46bulldozing what's there and starting
  238. 9:48from a fresh. Okay, so they're the three
  239. 9:51options that we're considering, the
  240. 9:53three options that we're looking at and
  241. 9:55what we've given the brief to the
  242. 9:57consulting engineers to come back to us
  243. 10:00with some highlevel numbers and some
  244. 10:02highle details.
  245. 10:04>> Mark, thank you for going over that.
  246. 10:06Interested to see what you guys decide
  247. 10:07there as you guys continue to study the
  248. 10:09initial approach and some of the things
  249. 10:11you guys want to do there. I think it is
  250. 10:13a great solution going forward for you
  251. 10:15guys to have an in-house processing
  252. 10:16solution and it's so centralized to the
  253. 10:19project area that you guys have
  254. 10:21presently and where you want to operate
  255. 10:22with the existing tailings there. Is
  256. 10:24there any recovery opportunities given
  257. 10:26the price of gold and is there anything
  258. 10:28else there as far as any recovery
  259. 10:30opportunities as part of remediation or
  260. 10:33do you see that there's not really any
  261. 10:34opportunities on that front?
  262. 10:37>> Andrew that's a magnificent question.
  263. 10:39Lots of people have asked us the same
  264. 10:41question. We uh we settled on this
  265. 10:44project 21 days ago. So, we've only had
  266. 10:46the keys to the front gate for three
  267. 10:49weeks. At this point in time, we haven't
  268. 10:51done anything in that regard. But it is
  269. 10:54something that we need to consider.
  270. 10:56Okay. Particularly as a lot of the
  271. 10:58tailings in there will have come out of
  272. 11:01the Waddle Dam deposit. As I said, a
  273. 11:03very high-grade deposit. And with the
  274. 11:06price of gold in AUD terms today, it
  275. 11:08cracked 6,700 Australian earlier this
  276. 11:11morning. You know, the value of what's
  277. 11:14in those tailing steam storage
  278. 11:16facilities could be substantial.
  279. 11:18>> Well, looking forward to seeing what you
  280. 11:20guys come up with on that front as well,
  281. 11:22Mark. That's uh good information and
  282. 11:23possibly another adder to the production
  283. 11:26profile as you guys continue to evaluate
  284. 11:28and investigate there at site. Well, why
  285. 11:30don't we shift over to uh exploration
  286. 11:33work at Spargoville as well as Loaded
  287. 11:36Dog? Two key exploration projects for
  288. 11:39the company. Any updates, Mark, on when
  289. 11:41you guys will be back on those projects
  290. 11:44to continue drilling. Any thoughts
  291. 11:46there?
  292. 11:47>> Uh yeah, Andrew, I'll talk about
  293. 11:49Sparkville first. We did a couple of
  294. 11:52programs in 2024.
  295. 11:55Just so that everybody's aware, our
  296. 11:57focus this year has purely been on the
  297. 11:59Munda project and getting that Manda
  298. 12:02project up into production. So we
  299. 12:04haven't gone back and really done any
  300. 12:06work at Sparkleville now for about 18
  301. 12:08months or so. Um we have got a program
  302. 12:11planned in Q1 next year. We want to go
  303. 12:15back to both a futive prospect and
  304. 12:17anomaly 37 prospect and we want to do an
  305. 12:21RC drilling program there. They're on
  306. 12:24granted tenure. We don't have to do any
  307. 12:26further heritage clearance work to get
  308. 12:28into Sparkville. So within the next six
  309. 12:31months, we expect to have the drill rigs
  310. 12:33operating at Sparkville. At Loaded Dog,
  311. 12:36that was a project that we bought again
  312. 12:38sometime earlier this year. I think we
  313. 12:41settled that in March 2025.
  314. 12:44We've just completed a heritage survey
  315. 12:46with the Naji people, the traditional
  316. 12:49owners for this area. We've got to go
  317. 12:51back and do a little bit more work with
  318. 12:53the Naji people sometime in November
  319. 12:56this year and again subject to the
  320. 12:59clearance for the drill program. It's
  321. 13:02our intention to also do that program in
  322. 13:04Q1 next year. So we believe that we'll
  323. 13:08most far apart Andrew they're most only
  324. 13:11about I know 100 kilometers apart. So,
  325. 13:14we'll make sure I do a first pass
  326. 13:16program at Loaded Dog and then we'll go
  327. 13:18up and finish the program up at
  328. 13:19Sparkville.
  329. 13:21>> Good luck with getting everything set up
  330. 13:23and uh looks like we can expect to have
  331. 13:25a sequenced exploration program coming
  332. 13:27up in the coming months. That'll be good
  333. 13:30certainly as uh you guys continue
  334. 13:32operations there at Munda. So, no
  335. 13:34shortage of things happening both from
  336. 13:36the potential for further ounce ad
  337. 13:39discovery and also existing production
  338. 13:41coming out of Monday as you guys
  339. 13:42continue to ramp up operations there uh
  340. 13:45towards the main pit. Well, with that,
  341. 13:48why don't we shift over briefly to
  342. 13:50Lindsay's gold project. Uh just talk
  343. 13:52about status and updates there.
  344. 13:54>> Yeah, Lindsay's has been a bit
  345. 13:56disappointing in a timing perspective.
  346. 13:59We entered into a contract in February
  347. 14:02this year to buy the Lindsay's project.
  348. 14:03The project is outstanding. We think the
  349. 14:06Lindsay's project will be a substantial
  350. 14:09value adder to Oric. The project went
  351. 14:13through an administration chapter 11 I
  352. 14:16think it might be called in America and
  353. 14:18unfortunately there has been some uh
  354. 14:21issues come about from our due
  355. 14:24diligence. At this point in time, the
  356. 14:26vendor cannot give us clear title to the
  357. 14:28projects. It's caught up in what's
  358. 14:31called the warden's court in Western
  359. 14:32Australia. The warden's court's a
  360. 14:34specific court in WA that just deals
  361. 14:37with mining issues. We've actually got a
  362. 14:39meeting on it tomorrow to see how we can
  363. 14:42resolve the issue and move forward. As
  364. 14:45I've said to you, Andrew, offline with
  365. 14:47the current gold price where it is, ORIC
  366. 14:49needs to go exceptionally hard in our
  367. 14:52development and our exploration. We
  368. 14:55believe we're in a gold bull market. For
  369. 14:57how long? Who knows? So, at this point
  370. 14:58in time, we've got to go hard whilst the
  371. 15:01um price is there.
  372. 15:03>> Mark absolutely agreed with that and I
  373. 15:05think this fills in really as a pipeline
  374. 15:08development project. So, certainly not
  375. 15:10an immediate need given your guys' focus
  376. 15:12over at Munda and then of course the
  377. 15:14exploration and expansion work with
  378. 15:16projects that you do have. So really
  379. 15:18look at this as a pipeline project and
  380. 15:21you guys will get those kinks sorted out
  381. 15:22in due course or maybe not but
  382. 15:24nonetheless we'll see what happens on
  383. 15:26updates but uh certainly a pipeline
  384. 15:28project as far as our view goes on it.
  385. 15:30One more thing, we'll get to capital
  386. 15:32structure in just a moment, Mark, but uh
  387. 15:34unless you had any comments on any other
  388. 15:36of the projects, Chalice West or
  389. 15:38anything else there.
  390. 15:40>> Chalice West has been a project that
  391. 15:42we've done a lot of work on. It's a big
  392. 15:44project. It's most probably our most
  393. 15:47green fields project. Um we believe that
  394. 15:51Sparkville and Loaded Dog are a bit more
  395. 15:53brownfields. Chalice West is going to,
  396. 15:56you know, we'll keep doing work there,
  397. 15:59but at this point in time, we'd prefer
  398. 16:01to be concentrating our efforts on the
  399. 16:03brownfields andor development. So,
  400. 16:05Chalice West is mostly fallen behind a
  401. 16:08little bit, Andrew, just because, as I
  402. 16:10keep saying to you and and your
  403. 16:12listeners, we want to keep our
  404. 16:14production profile growing.
  405. 16:17yet another pipeline project for you
  406. 16:19guys to spend time and and capital on
  407. 16:21when the time merits to do so and makes
  408. 16:23sense as you guys focus on current gold
  409. 16:25price and production. So very good
  410. 16:27information there, Mark. I appreciate
  411. 16:29that. On capital structure here, why
  412. 16:31don't you give us an update and also
  413. 16:34probably for some new audience listening
  414. 16:35in. Talk about where you guys stand as
  415. 16:38far as current cash on hand, any
  416. 16:40guidance that you want to give for the
  417. 16:42rest of the year there. And then also
  418. 16:44because we do have some new audience,
  419. 16:46the current shares outstanding and the
  420. 16:47major shareholders.
  421. 16:49>> Okay, first off, the current shares
  422. 16:51outstanding is 186 million. So, we're
  423. 16:54still a pretty tight structure. The top
  424. 16:5820 own about between 46 and 48% of the
  425. 17:01company. We only have one substantial
  426. 17:04shareholder, which is a gentleman out of
  427. 17:07Melbourne in Victoria. The directors,
  428. 17:10I'm myself and my family are the second
  429. 17:13largest shareholder. The directors
  430. 17:15collectively between the three of us own
  431. 17:17about 12% of the business. So there's
  432. 17:21there's the structure is pretty good. Um
  433. 17:25at this point in time we have around
  434. 17:271,400 shareholders. So there's quite a
  435. 17:29few smalish shareholders at the at the
  436. 17:32bottom end of the spectrum. There's some
  437. 17:34unlisted options on issue. Most of those
  438. 17:37unlisted options have got hurdles before
  439. 17:40they grant. So, we've got to hit
  440. 17:42production of 40,000 ounces of gold,
  441. 17:4560,000 ounces of gold, 70,000 ounces of
  442. 17:47gold before those options get vested. At
  443. 17:51this point in time, our market caps
  444. 17:53around 55 million. Again, pretty small
  445. 17:56for a company of what we are doing and
  446. 17:58what we are achieving. Our cash at the
  447. 18:01end of June was around $11 million. That
  448. 18:05cash has come down substantially since
  449. 18:07then, Andrew. So we've bought the
  450. 18:09Burbanks project and of course when you
  451. 18:12buy the project in West Australia you
  452. 18:14pay the goods and services tax in
  453. 18:16addition. So our cash out to buy the
  454. 18:19Burbanks mill was about $5 million.
  455. 18:22We've been mining at Mund now since 30th
  456. 18:25of June 4 months June to October. Our
  457. 18:28mine costs run at about 1.5 million a
  458. 18:30month. So of course we've burnt again
  459. 18:32around $5 million out of that. So our
  460. 18:35cash as we speak today is circa about
  461. 18:38$1.2 million in the bank but as I said
  462. 18:41to your listeners earlier we produce or
  463. 18:44black cat produces gold for us today um
  464. 18:48that will get shipped to the refinery
  465. 18:50and then there'll be gold sales within
  466. 18:52the fortnight so we expect a substantial
  467. 18:55uplift in our cash um before mid
  468. 18:58November this year.
  469. 19:01>> Thank you for that good timing. Looks
  470. 19:03like you guys have got this operation
  471. 19:05down quite well and the budget
  472. 19:06accordingly. So, I appreciate you going
  473. 19:08through that and uh just in time here to
  474. 19:10uh receive some payments on first gold
  475. 19:13coming out of Monday. So,
  476. 19:14congratulations once again on that.
  477. 19:16Looking forward to further results as
  478. 19:17you guys can announce those. Well, Mark,
  479. 19:20before we wrap up here, just wanted to
  480. 19:21get your quick thoughts. Uh any thoughts
  481. 19:23on the gold market here? I think it
  482. 19:24would be probably uh not doing a good
  483. 19:26service here not to ask your opinion of
  484. 19:28the market and the gold price at this
  485. 19:30point.
  486. 19:31It's a big question, Andrew, isn't it?
  487. 19:34Um, the gold price in US dollars is
  488. 19:37outstanding. The gold price in Aussie
  489. 19:39dollar is outstanding. It bodess well
  490. 19:43for us as a gold producer. I'm not sure
  491. 19:46what it means for the world. It means I
  492. 19:49think the world's in a bit of a bit of a
  493. 19:51problem. Um, we all know the the issues
  494. 19:54in Ukraine and the Middle East. I think
  495. 19:56we all know about the dead issues in the
  496. 19:58world. I fear for America that they
  497. 20:02can't get their finances sorted through
  498. 20:04Congress and be able to get the money
  499. 20:06flowing to the government employees in
  500. 20:09America. That doesn't fill me with
  501. 20:10confidence. But from a gold perspective,
  502. 20:13as I said to you earlier in this
  503. 20:16podcast, Andrew, I think we're in a gold
  504. 20:18ball market. How long it's going to go
  505. 20:20for, who knows where it is in that
  506. 20:23market, not sure. But it by god it's
  507. 20:25robust. We cannot uh emphasize that we
  508. 20:29thought we're superstars in 2023 and
  509. 20:322024
  510. 20:34selling gold in Aussie terms at $3,500
  511. 20:37an ounce. At one stage, we sold gold at
  512. 20:41the highest price, highest ever Aussie
  513. 20:44gold price at 3030
  514. 20:47and that is less than two years ago. So
  515. 20:50in today's price, Aussie gold price
  516. 20:53today is about 6750.
  517. 20:55Um, you know, I I'm I'm not sure where
  518. 20:58it's going to get to, Andrew, except
  519. 21:00that I think it's going to stay
  520. 21:01exceptionally high in the short to
  521. 21:03medium term. Um, and even quite frankly,
  522. 21:07even if it drops 10%, Andrew, it's going
  523. 21:10to, you know, drop down to 6,000 Aussie.
  524. 21:13Um, it's still an amazing price.
  525. 21:16>> Absolutely, Mark. Thank you for giving
  526. 21:17us your opinion on that. And there's
  527. 21:19going to be some fluctuations in the
  528. 21:21price. That's uh to be expected and
  529. 21:23certainly prepare accordingly for that.
  530. 21:25At the same time, certainly it indicates
  531. 21:27quite a few problems on various fronts
  532. 21:30and at the same time too you have a
  533. 21:32marketplace the broad market speaking of
  534. 21:33that and how that can impact our sector
  535. 21:35as well and temporarily impact the price
  536. 21:39of the underlying physical as well for a
  537. 21:41short period of time. But I do think
  538. 21:43over the long haul we will definitely
  539. 21:45see higher prices. And of course they've
  540. 21:47been setting records on in Aussie dollar
  541. 21:49terms for many years and now starting to
  542. 21:51set records in the final currencies as
  543. 21:54we continue to witness irresponsibility
  544. 21:57at these government levels. So I really
  545. 21:59appreciate your thoughts on that. Well,
  546. 22:01why don't we leave it there for now on
  547. 22:02this update. Mark, for potential
  548. 22:04investors who are listening in, Arc
  549. 22:06Mining has a market capitalization of
  550. 22:08about 54 million Australian dollars. Why
  551. 22:11should the company be considered within
  552. 22:13the institutional family office and
  553. 22:14retail investors portfolio at this
  554. 22:17stage?
  555. 22:18>> Uh because we're a new company. We
  556. 22:20listed on the ASX about well in February
  557. 22:232021. So we've only been a listed
  558. 22:26company for a bit over four years. We've
  559. 22:29achieved our hurdles. When we listed on
  560. 22:32the ASX, we always had a strategy of
  561. 22:35acquiring small gold projects that we
  562. 22:38could turn into cash. We've done that at
  563. 22:40Jeffrey's Find together with our joint
  564. 22:43venture partner. We're now doing it at
  565. 22:45Manda and we're doing that 100% Oric.
  566. 22:48We've got our own workforce. We're dry
  567. 22:51hiring the plant equipment for the
  568. 22:52starter pit. When we get into the main
  569. 22:55pit, Andrew will start to build our own
  570. 22:57mining fleet. We've got a great track
  571. 23:00record in acquisition at Burbanks, the
  572. 23:03same at Lindsay's. We see Lindsay's and
  573. 23:06Manda as our two growth assets and our
  574. 23:09growth story. And we see the exploration
  575. 23:13potential at Sparkville and at loaded
  576. 23:15dog to give us the kicker to build our
  577. 23:18resources. We all know that you go into
  578. 23:21that capex to start to refurb a mill or
  579. 23:24build a mill, you need to have enough
  580. 23:27volume to justify that um management
  581. 23:30decision. So from our perspective, we
  582. 23:33need to build our resources. We're very
  583. 23:35conscious of that fact, Andrew. And the
  584. 23:38only way we're going to build our
  585. 23:39resources is either a through the drill
  586. 23:41bit or b through acquisition. So we're
  587. 23:44very focused in the Calguli region.
  588. 23:47Oreic's mantra is to remain in the
  589. 23:49Calguli region within about 100 km
  590. 23:52radius of Calguli. That's where we want
  591. 23:54to stay. There's always going to be
  592. 23:57projects dropping out of majors. You
  593. 23:59know, there's some big players around
  594. 24:00us. South African goldfields, Northern
  595. 24:03Star, Black Cat, West Gold, Pantoro.
  596. 24:07They're going to have projects that
  597. 24:09don't fit their profile that they mostly
  598. 24:11will want to exit. And there'll be
  599. 24:14smaller companies that most probably
  600. 24:15won't be able to raise the capital that
  601. 24:17they need to keep um their exploration
  602. 24:19focus. So, we believe that we're in a
  603. 24:23sweet spot. Our management team is very
  604. 24:25strong. Um and we're going to say in
  605. 24:28gold in Calguli.
  606. 24:30>> Mark, thank you for that. And certainly
  607. 24:32as you guys progress here improving
  608. 24:34those margins through a future
  609. 24:36processing facility of some type, uh
  610. 24:38certainly we can see the upside value
  611. 24:39there as well. For further information,
  612. 24:42Mark, how can folks contact the company?
  613. 24:45>> Best has come directly to me. Um my
  614. 24:47email address is mglish
  615. 24:50oricmining.com.au.
  616. 24:52Our website's pretty good. they can get
  617. 24:54a lot of information off our website,
  618. 24:56Andrew, but anybody that wants to ask me
  619. 24:59detailed questions or bit further
  620. 25:01information. I'm very happy to receive
  621. 25:03their email and I'll respond quite
  622. 25:05promptly.
  623. 25:07>> Mark, well, thank you for that and thank
  624. 25:08you for the update on ARC mining. Keep
  625. 25:11up the efforts and we're looking forward
  626. 25:12to having you back in 2026 to update.
  627. 25:16>> Thanks, Andrew. A pleasure.

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