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1:47[clears throat]
1:50>> Members of the press, ladies and
1:52gentlemen, good morning.
1:54Today I am here before you to speak of
1:58the war that has gone unnoticed by too
2:00many.
2:02The war against the Iranian people
2:05by an occupying regime.
2:07It is a war that has been going on for
2:0947 years.
2:12A war in which the regime just
2:14slaughtered 40,000 civilians.
2:17And a war in which there's no ceasefire.
2:21After years of repression, in January,
2:24millions of Iranians rose up.
2:27Tens of thousands died.
2:30But they did not die for a nuclear deal.
2:34They did not die for reform and more of
2:37the same.
2:38They died for freedom
2:40and to reclaim their country.
2:44The international media speak of the
2:46latest twists and turns of so-called
2:49diplomacy, ceasefires, negotiations,
2:53deals.
2:55But ignores the facts on the ground.
2:58A generational revolt.
3:00The most profound uprising in Iran since
3:041979.
3:06Uniting all Iranians across each of our
3:0931 provinces.
3:12And in more than 450 cities. And yes,
3:15even elements within the state apparatus
3:18itself.
3:21When legitimacy dies,
3:23power begins to crumble.
3:27As Chancellor Merkel declared,
3:29if the regime can only hold onto power
3:32through sheer violence and terror
3:35against its own population,
3:37its days are numbered.
3:41The question is not whether change will
3:42come.
3:44Change is on the way.
3:46The real question is how many Iranians
3:49will lose their lives while the
3:51community of Western democracies
3:54continue to merely watch?
3:59As we speak,
4:01atrocities are still unfolding that the
4:03world cannot see.
4:05Because the regime has blocked internet
4:08access while silencing the witnesses.
4:12Its operatives hunted wounded protesters
4:15in hospitals
4:17and executed them in cold blood.
4:21Bodies were collected by dump trucks.
4:24Families searched through rows of
4:26unmarked body bags.
4:2840,000.
4:30The number is too large to comprehend.
4:34Too abstract.
4:37So, let me tell you just one of their
4:38stories.
4:41Saleheh Akbari was a 38-year-old
4:45nurse
4:46during the January uprising.
4:49She and her husband, Ahmad Khodaei,
4:52opened their home to wounded protesters.
4:56People too terrified to go to the
4:58hospitals
4:59because the regime was hunting them
5:01down.
5:03They treated the injured.
5:05They hid them. They saved lives.
5:09A few days later,
5:12regime agents stormed in.
5:15Saleheh threw herself between them and
5:17her husband.
5:19They shot her point-blank in the heart
5:23in front of him
5:24and their young child.
5:26She died
5:28in his arms.
5:31But then came the unspeakable.
5:33Agents who had recuperated her body
5:37raped her corpse,
5:39photographed
5:41the desecration,
5:43and sent the images to Ahmad
5:46as psychological torture.
5:50Broken by grief,
5:52he posted a final goodbye on Instagram
5:56and attempted to take his own life.
6:02Ario Alidoust,
6:0423 years old,
6:06wanted to pursue a career in real estate
6:09until the regime killed him in the
6:12January protests.
6:14His mother is here with us today.
6:24Sam Ashouri,
6:26>> [clears throat]
6:27>> almost 17,
6:28was a champion swimmer.
6:31The regime also murdered him
6:33in the January protests.
6:35His father is here with us today.
6:45Mr. Ashouri and Mrs. Alidoust will be
6:47here with me after I take your
6:49questions.
6:50And I hope you will speak with them,
6:52too.
6:53I urge you to listen to them.
6:57There are more.
6:59In the last 2 weeks,
7:0219 political prisoners
7:05have been executed.
7:07So, let me ask you,
7:09do any of you know their names?
7:12Have any of you written articles about
7:14them?
7:15Have you looked into this at all?
7:19I read in your newspapers about the
7:21tragedies of war.
7:23But what of the regime's crimes against
7:25my compatriots?
7:27It is committing crimes against humanity
7:30as we speak.
7:32Will the free world do something
7:34or watch the slaughter in silence?
7:38There are people waiting for the answer.
7:41Their lives are literally on the line.
7:45As we speak,
7:4720 political prisoners have been
7:49sentenced to death
7:51and are awaiting execution.
7:54Do you know about them?
7:57Will you conduct investigations into
7:59their sham trials?
8:01Each of them is from the January 8th and
8:039th protests.
8:06These 20 people
8:07and millions more
8:09are waiting to see whether you care
8:11about their lives enough to do anything
8:14about it.
8:16Will you?
8:19I want to speak directly to the
8:21journalists in this room.
8:24The regime has maintained an internet
8:27blackout exceeding 1,200 hours.
8:31Eight weeks.
8:32Eight weeks of enforced silence.
8:36The Iranian people cannot call their
8:38families, cannot document what is being
8:41done to them,
8:42cannot show the world the crimes
8:44committed in their streets.
8:47Meanwhile,
8:48regime officials appear freely on your
8:51networks,
8:52post on your platforms, and offer their
8:55version
8:56of events to your audiences
8:59unchallenged,
9:01uncontested,
9:03unopposed.
9:05You are the only free press the Iranian
9:08people have right now.
9:12What you choose to cover
9:14and how you choose to cover it
9:17will determine whether the world sees
9:19this revolution clearly
9:22or through the fog the regime is
9:24deliberately generating.
9:27It can literally determine
9:30whether innocent people live or die.
9:35I am asking you,
9:37as journalists,
9:39as professionals who understand what a
9:41free press is for,
9:43to tell
9:45their stories.
9:47In Germany,
9:50you know all too well the danger of
9:52dehumanization.
9:54Do Do allow Iranians
9:57to be dehumanized.
9:59They are people.
10:01They are brave people.
10:04They deserve for their story
10:06to be told.
10:09President Zelenskyy told me recently
10:12the world did not help the Iranian
10:14people enough.
10:16It stood aside,
10:18and by the time politicians began
10:19forming positions,
10:21the Ayatollah had already killed
10:23thousands.
10:25He warned that brutality
10:28rewarded with survival sends one signal
10:31to every bully.
10:33Kill enough people
10:35and you stay in power.
10:38And yet, here we are again
10:41on the cusp of the same catastrophic
10:44mistake.
10:46There are many regime propagandists in
10:48the West who are calling the regime's
10:51negotiators reasonable,
10:53moderate,
10:55people with whom we can do business.
10:59But Qalibaf and Araqchi are not
11:01pragmatists.
11:03They are not reformers.
11:05Nor are the IRGC killers behind the
11:08curtains.
11:09They are different faces of the same
11:11machine that shot Soleiman Akbari in the
11:15heart.
11:16They are the ones who will execute these
11:1820 people I just told you about.
11:21Yet, you call them pragmatists.
11:25Let me tell you.
11:27The execution of my people is not
11:29pragmatic.
11:30Nor is the blackmail the regime is
11:32threatening you and the world with.
11:35If you think you can make peace with
11:37this regime,
11:39you are sorely mistaken.
11:41If you allow it to survive,
11:44further conflict is unavoidable.
11:48There will never be stability
11:50if even a watered-down version of this
11:53system survives.
11:55The Iranian people want a clean break.
11:58They have paid for it in blood.
12:02They will not exchange their freedom for
12:04a convenient fantasy that the monsters
12:07with blood on their hands have somehow
12:09become the diplomats who will deliver
12:12peace.
12:14I ask you here in this room,
12:17who is representing the 40,000 at the
12:20negotiation table?
12:22Who speaks for Saleh?
12:26Ladies and gentlemen of the press,
12:28that is not a rhetorical question.
12:31It is your professional responsibility,
12:34your moral obligation, and I hope your
12:37personal assignment.
12:40When spokespeople beat you on progress
12:42and breakthroughs and pragmatic
12:44solutions,
12:45ask
12:46whose freedom was negotiated away to get
12:49here.
12:51The 40,000 cannot hold a press
12:53conference.
12:55Saleh cannot correct the record,
12:57but you can.
13:00Europe has not.
13:02It claims to stand for human rights,
13:04democracy, and justice.
13:08Yet, its politicians ignore the crimes
13:10against my people
13:12and instead criticize the humanitarian
13:14intervention that millions of Iranians
13:17pleaded for.
13:19The intervention that eliminated the
13:21dictator
13:22and weakened the regime's apparatus of
13:24repression.
13:2888 years
13:30after Munich,
13:31we gather here in Berlin to ask whether
13:34the world will now stand with the people
13:37of Iran
13:38or continue to engage with the
13:40perpetrators of crimes against human
13:42dignity.
13:44Whether it will stand and fight for good
13:47or bow to appease evil.
13:51In German law,
13:53human dignity is sacrosanct,
13:55the absolute foundation of all other
13:59rights.
14:01This regime has made its destruction a
14:04governing principle,
14:06and it has brought the principle,
14:09that principle, to German soil.
14:12German courts have linked Iranian state
14:15agencies to firebombing and shooting
14:17attacks on synagogues in Bochum and
14:20Essen.
14:22Intelligence services have documented
14:24Iranian cyberattacks on the German
14:26government,
14:28dissidents, and defense industries.
14:31And this is not new.
14:33The regime brags about the murders it
14:36has committed on your soil,
14:38like that of Iranian Kurdish dissidents
14:41or a beloved artist, Fereydoun
14:43Farrokhzad.
14:45They have no shame.
14:47In fact, they boast.
14:49This is what they do.
14:51They have always done it,
14:53and they are doing it still
14:55on European soil,
14:57in European cities,
14:59against Europeans.
15:03The threats to Germany and Europe
15:05continues to this day.
15:07It threatens you with the terrorists it
15:09sends to your shores.
15:11It threatens you with the suicide drones
15:14it sends Putin in the war against
15:15Ukraine.
15:17It threatens you with its new long-range
15:19missiles that can hit the heart of
15:21continental Europe.
15:24As long as this regime is in place,
15:27you will continue to face these threats,
15:31and they will only get worse.
15:34No deal will solve this.
15:37No negotiations will solve this.
15:40It is in their DNA.
15:43For 47 years, you have tried to change
15:46this regime's behavior,
15:49and for that
15:51should be obvious by now,
15:53you have failed.
15:55So, today,
15:56you have two choices.
15:58You can submit and continue to live
16:01under constant blackmail,
16:03or you can chart a new course.
16:07It is time for you to act and solve this
16:10problem for good,
16:12for your own sake.
16:15The Iranian diaspora has delivered its
16:17verdict.
16:19On February 14th,
16:21more than 250,000
16:22Iranians gathered in Munich.
16:25They were not alone.
16:27They were joined by Germans who value
16:29freedom and dignity.
16:32Across Hamburg, Stuttgart, and Berlin,
16:35they marched under one flag with one
16:37demand, a free,
16:40secular, democratic Iran.
16:44Europe should listen to them
16:46and not negotiate with the terrorist who
16:48drove them into exile.
16:51The choice before Europe is not between
16:54war and peace.
16:55It is between a dying regime that
16:57endangers us all
17:00and a free Iran that can become a
17:02partner for stability.
17:05European governments must stop appeasing
17:08this regime.
17:10Expel regime ambassadors.
17:12Refuse to legitimize any arrangement
17:15that preserves the IRGC-centered power
17:18structure.
17:20Prepare to recognize the transitional
17:22government when it is announced.
17:25The snapback sanctions,
17:27the closure of Iranian consulates, the
17:30push to list the IRGC as a terrorist
17:32organization,
17:34these are steps in the right direction,
17:37but they are not enough.
17:39For 47 years,
17:41the world has known Iran through the
17:43action of a regime that took a great
17:45nation hostage, chose ideology over its
17:49people's well-being, and exported terror
17:53instead of peace.
17:55But that is not the real Iran.
17:58The transitional government I envision
18:01will honor these commitments from the
18:03very first day,
18:05end Iran's nuclear ambitions immediately
18:09and permanently,
18:12end all support for terrorism,
18:15release every hostage,
18:18free every political prisoner,
18:21normalize relations with the
18:23international community.
18:27A free Iran will be a stabilizing anchor
18:29for the entire Middle East,
18:31ending the proxy wars that have ravaged
18:34Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, and Syria,
18:38and become a partner for regional
18:41economic integration.
18:43Its energy potential,
18:46reconnected to global markets, would
18:48benefit European consumers,
18:51Persian Gulf neighbors, and the Iranian
18:54people alike.
18:55This is the single greatest untapped
18:58opportunity for regional peace in a
19:00generation,
19:02and more than a trillion dollars in
19:03economic opportunity in the decade
19:06ahead.
19:08That is only possible when this regime
19:10is gone,
19:12when the Iranian people's revolution
19:14succeeds.
19:16The Iranian people are not asking you to
19:18fight their revolution.
19:20They are not They are already doing
19:21that,
19:23and with a courage that should humble
19:24all of us.
19:26They are asking something far more
19:28modest.
19:30Do not legitimize those who oppress
19:32them.
19:34Do not strengthen those who terrorize
19:36them.
19:37Prepare for the day when Iran stands
19:40free.
19:43There are moments in history
19:46when neutrality is not a position.
19:49It is a decision.
19:51When caution
19:53is not prudence,
19:54it is complicity.
19:57You in Germany know this all too well.
20:00You know the cost of appeasement.
20:04I'm asking you
20:06on behalf of a nation
20:07to stand on the right side of history.
20:11To stand
20:12for justice.
20:14The Iranian people have already done the
20:17hardest thing.
20:18They stood in the street.
20:20They faced the blood.
20:23They said the name of freedom out loud
20:26in a country where that word could get
20:28you killed.
20:29They did not wait
20:31for the world's permission.
20:35But they are still waiting for one
20:36thing.
20:38For the world to catch up with their
20:40courage.
20:41The choice is yours.
20:44With or without the world,
20:47with or without Europe,
20:49with or without Germany,
20:51our fight goes on.
20:54We will We will not rest until our
20:56nation is free.
20:59Until our people have their dignity
21:01restored.
21:02Until justice
21:04is served.
21:06But if you stand with us,
21:08if you act in honor of those 40,000
21:11innocent protesters,
21:13you will save lives. You will stop the
21:16flow of blood.
21:19On the day of our victory,
21:22I hope to be able to tell the people of
21:24Iran
21:25that Germany stood with them.
21:43Thank you. Thank you very much.
21:44Charlotte Dutch public news channel NOS.
21:47Mr. Pahlavi, thank you. I'm in order to
21:50lead a new government in Iran.
21:53Previously, you have emphasized the
21:55importance of military involvement of
21:58USA.
21:59Now that the US military is involved,
22:02at the moment a regime change doesn't
22:04seem
22:05to be happening.
22:07How have your plans changed? What is
22:09your new plan now?
22:11The strategy is ultimately for people to
22:14be able to reclaim the streets.
22:16Obviously, when you are faced with such
22:18level of brutality, you have to
22:20strategically retreat until the time
22:22comes for them to simply return to the
22:24streets again. This is why the continued
22:27campaign will give them minimal
22:29protection so that the regime starts on
22:32the streets cannot shoot to kill people
22:34that come out of their homes. That at
22:36least gives us an equalizing chance to
22:39have a real opportunity for them. The
22:41importance of that intervention was
22:43exactly
22:44the argument that people that are
22:46defenseless, that are passages, need to
22:48have some level of assistance. That's a
22:50factor in our possible liberation.
22:56This protection, how does this look
22:57like? I see. Could you please repeat it?
22:59Yes. How would this protection look like
23:01if there is no presence of military in
23:03the streets? Because the Iranian people,
23:04when they see that the regime was on the
23:06retreat and that's when they started
23:08moving forward, were all of a sudden
23:10faced with this brutal reaction.
23:12Understand that the regime in the
23:14meantime is crumbling. There are
23:15internal rifts. There are people that
23:17are refusing to show up to work to
23:19repress the people. They have refused to
23:21carry out orders of repression to the
23:23point that the regime had to import over
23:255,000 elements from outside of Iran. Not
23:28even Iranian citizens. They come from
23:30Afghanistan. They come from Iraq. They
23:32come from Lebanon
23:34to do the dirty job, to hit the people.
23:36At some point, the regime is going to
23:38run out of resources. They're going to
23:39run out of the ability to pay their
23:41mercenaries. This is an opportunity for
23:43the people again. We have to adjust the
23:45reality on the ground. That doesn't mean
23:47that we abandon the fight. But the
23:49reason I'm here to tell you how
23:50important it is for the world not to be
23:52observers, to intervene, to act in a
23:55humanitarian way, meaning in order to
23:58save more lives. We cannot throw the
24:01people to the streets to be butchered.
24:02They need to have some level of support
24:04and protection. That's why foreign
24:06intervention was necessary. Otherwise,
24:08it would be very difficult for people to
24:10think that they can single-handedly and
24:12defenseless and alone face the brutality
24:15of the regime. That's the leveling out.
24:18All of it.
24:50>> [clears throat]
24:50>> As I said in my speech,
24:55thinking that the regime has the ability
24:57to actually commit to a lasting peace is
25:00a little bit too much of a fantasy. And
25:03the reason I'm saying that is because if
25:05you see the pattern of behavior that the
25:07regime has displayed all these years,
25:10concealing
25:11their true intentions, hiding their
25:13nuclear program, being totally
25:17non-transparent in their true
25:19intentions, the actual rhetoric that
25:21they
25:22use within Iran, the belligerence that
25:25they talk about, their entire behavior
25:27is not indicative that they're prepared
25:29to change in any form or shape their
25:31their behavior. But why is that? Because
25:33they can't. If they cease to do what
25:35they do, they're no longer the regime
25:37they claim to be. They're no longer a
25:39regime that is trying to export an
25:41ideology
25:43at the cost and expense of its own
25:45citizenry. And they've done that for
25:47just 47 years.
25:49As I said again,
25:51the whole narrative of ceasefire and
25:53negotiation is still based on thinking
25:56that somehow their behavior is not going
25:58to change.
25:59And you're going to deal with people who
26:00all of a sudden have become pragmatists.
26:02I don't see that happening.
26:04I'm not saying that diplomacy should not
26:06be given a chance.
26:07But I think diplomacy has been given
26:09enough chance and every time it has had
26:12setback.
26:13This is time to readjust your foreign
26:15policies. To think that this regime is a
26:17solution at the end. The solution is the
26:20liberation of a nation that is asking
26:22you to take their side for once. For 47
26:25years, the people of Iran have not been
26:27part of the equation. For 47 years,
26:29they've been ignored. They're not even
26:31part of these negotiations. And I'm here
26:34to speak on behalf of millions of
26:35Iranians who are voiceless to tell you,
26:38rather than investing on this regime,
26:40invest on them. Let them be the agents
26:43of change. Let them be the people who
26:45will bring you peace and stability,
26:47unlike a regime that has no intention
26:49other than to survive at any cost,
26:51albeit killing thousands of innocent
26:53Iranians just to survive. This needs to
26:55be part of the consideration.
26:58And I don't think that I can judge the
26:59behavior headline to headline. I've
27:01learned one thing in the past few weeks.
27:03Whatever we hear coming out of
27:05Washington, let's judge on the results
27:07as opposed to the words that are being
27:08said here and there on social media.
27:29You know, Iran is a country with 25
27:31centuries worth of civilization.
27:34For a country that has only been on this
27:36planet for
27:38250 years celebrating their
27:39independence, I don't think that any
27:41government or any foreign country can
27:43determine the survival of a certain
27:45civilization or not. We as Iranians are
27:48proud of our civilization and nothing
27:50can change that.
27:52The reason is that acknowledging the
27:53people of Iran is the best way to
27:55preserve not only your own interest, but
27:57also preserve a civilization that
27:59actually has contributed to the world.
28:01I find it surprising that if you realize
28:05that Thomas Jefferson actually was
28:07inspired
28:08by the first declaration of human rights
28:10that Cyrus the Great
28:12implemented 25 centuries ago.
28:15And it is actually within
28:18the principles of of the US Constitution
28:21to talk about Iranian civilization being
28:23wiped out. I I think these are just
28:25words. I'm not taking it seriously.
28:27And I think that Iranians will pretty
28:29much tell you that we've survived many
28:31onslaughts. We have survived many
28:33invasions by the Arabs, by the Turks, by
28:35the Mongols, and we're still standing.
28:38And we will continue to stand. And the
28:40reason I'm saying this is because if you
28:42look at
28:44the energy on the streets of Iran, if
28:45you follow the streets of Iran, if you
28:47see to what extent people are proud of
28:50their culture and their heritage,
28:52and you can see it also through the
28:53diaspora that
28:56despite the fact that they've been
28:57forced into life outside of their own
28:59countries, how proud they are of their
29:01culture. Nothing will change that. So,
29:03I'm not at all
29:05frazzled or intimidated by any statement
29:07that challenges our our
29:09our civilization. On the contrary, I
29:11think the world is beginning to
29:12recognize
29:14that how different Iran can be when the
29:15people of Iran are free. And they are
29:18the ones who will tell you, we are not
29:19warmongers, we are peacemakers.
29:21The reason we have been brought to a
29:23situation of war
29:25is solely because of this regime.
29:27This regime is responsible for bringing
29:30us to where we are today.
29:32For years, I pleaded with the Western
29:34governments,
29:35do not appease the regime.
29:38The day will come that you will finally
29:40have to face confrontation. I always
29:42said we have to avoid conflict.
29:45But the continued policy of appeasement
29:47has led us to a point that now we are
29:48facing actual war.
29:51The responsibility solely on that
29:52operation.
29:54So the world should not add insult to
29:56injury by punishing the Iranian people.
29:59The world should stand with the Iranian
30:00people and help us put an end to this
30:02regime.
30:04That's the war that is going on.
30:05Remember what I first said in my speech.
30:08There's a war going on, it's a war of
30:09the regime against the Iranian people.
30:12Now I strength The regime is trying to
30:13deflect attention and push the narrative
30:17as if they are the victims all of a
30:18sudden
30:19and the world is against them. No.
30:23They are the first culprit in bringing
30:25us to a situation of conflict. The
30:27sooner this regime is gone the conflict
30:29will end also. Not by means of
30:32negotiation with the remnants of this
30:33regime but by helping the Iranian people
30:37overcome and topple this regime. That's
30:39the ultimate solution that will bring us
30:42an end of this conflict and all these
30:44narratives or all these statements that
30:46we hear out. The solution lies in that
30:49ultimate.
30:50Thank you.
30:52Mr. Pahlavi,
30:54a personal question. Yes.
30:56I'm sorry, I have a hard identifying
30:58where the sound is coming from. Can you
30:59also raise your hand so I can be in the
31:01right direction?
31:02Excuse me.
31:04Okay, now I see. I have a a personal
31:07question since
31:08we can see outside that you're here with
31:11the help of the lobby group Europe
31:12Israel Press Association.
31:16The Israeli government supports you
31:17taking over in Iran and the same
31:19government
31:21that's same government that started a
31:22war of aggression against your country
31:24with the US.
31:26So many people around the world think
31:28that you are an Israeli asset. Are you?
31:32Of course not.
31:34But I'm a friend to Israel and the Jews
31:36and I'll tell you why.
31:37Because again, as a descendant of Cyrus
31:39the Great, we take pride of the fact
31:43that the very cornerstone of human
31:45rights
31:46happened at the time that Cyrus the
31:48Great through his cylinder, which is
31:49displayed worldwide
31:52that is referred to in the Hall of
31:54Nations at the United Nations
31:57was what coined the very principles of
31:59liberty when he freed the Jewish slaves
32:01in Babylon
32:02and helped them rebuild their temples in
32:04Jerusalem.
32:06Iranians and Jews have a biblical
32:08relationship.
32:09In fact, they're the only two countries
32:10that can claim that.
32:12In modern history
32:14Iran was the only country in the Middle
32:16East
32:17that harbored Jews that were escaping
32:21Hitler
32:22and his regime
32:24and were given refuge in Iran.
32:26That's part of our history. That's part
32:28of our
32:29tradition of harboring persecuted
32:31people.
32:33Jews in Iran were free to practice their
32:35faith before the revolution.
32:39I'm fighting for their rights to be
32:40restored and that of any other religion
32:42in Iran because one of the cornerstone
32:44of human rights should be protecting
32:45people in their freedom of religion.
32:47That's what I stand for and I don't need
32:49to be an agent of anyone to do that. But
32:52I'm an agent of my people. I'm the agent
32:54of the Iranian people. I'm standing here
32:56because tens of millions of them asked
32:58me to be their voice, to talk to people
33:00like you today and explain their vision
33:02of the future.
33:04Thanks for the clarification and uh
33:07regarding your plan, correct me if I'm
33:08wrong, but you have never excluded to
33:11restore a permanent monarchy with a
33:14democratic elected government serving in
33:17your name. Why is that? Don't you think
33:20a true democrat would clearly exclude to
33:23restore a new monarchy?
33:26Well, let's look at Europe right now
33:29as an example. Germany is a republic.
33:33So is Belgium.
33:34France is a
33:36a democracy.
33:38So is Belgium. France is a democracy. So
33:41is Sweden.
33:44Italy
33:45is a democracy. So is Spain.
33:49They're all democracies, right?
33:52Three of them are republics.
33:54Three of them are monarchies.
33:57So if you're telling me that
34:00people don't have a right to decide via
34:03the ballot box
34:04what's their preferred system, which is
34:06what I believe it to
34:08then you're not respecting the will of
34:10the Iranian people.
34:12I don't get to decide that.
34:14You don't get to decide that.
34:16They get to decide it.
34:18What I stand for is free elections.
34:21What I propose is a process whereby
34:24through the ballot box
34:25the majority of the Iranian people would
34:27have to decide what is the best system
34:30suited for their interest. They get to
34:32choose.
34:33And the only role that I have for myself
34:36and I offer to be the transitional
34:37leader is precisely to bring them to a
34:39position where they can make that
34:41choice.
34:42And I think democracy is not about
34:44eliminating democratic options.
34:46It's by allowing people to have choices.
34:50So we're not subtracting, we're just
34:52allowing people to have a choice,
34:54provided of course that this is a
34:56democratic option.
34:57Not every option is democratic. That
34:59goes without saying.
35:01Thank you, counselor.
35:03I'm over here. Hello.
35:06Um
35:12In a French TV show you recently said
35:14that you never argued for military
35:16intervention in Iran, but on the 10th of
35:19February you clearly stated in an
35:20interview with Glenn Beck that you that
35:22only a foreign military military
35:24intervention could neutralize the
35:27apparatus of repression in Iran and only
35:30that can be the solution. Um do you feel
35:32responsible for the many innocent
35:34Iranians who have died to the US and
35:36Israeli bombs, um may I say illegal
35:39um bombing that you supported?
35:43First of all, uh
35:44the targeting of the regime's
35:46infrastructure and its elements of
35:48coercion was absolutely something that
35:50the Iranian people actually called for.
35:53They were asking, they were in fact
35:56insisting that come and help us.
35:59Based on what President Trump has said
36:01at the time that if the regime hits the
36:03people
36:05they will see a very harsh response. The
36:08air cover campaign
36:10that included hitting the regime
36:12infrastructure and apparatus of
36:13repression
36:15was a necessary step to equalize the
36:17playing fields for Iranians that were
36:18getting massacred on the streets
36:20defenseless
36:21by the regime that used their military
36:23weapons to shoot them on the street. How
36:25else do you expect defenseless people to
36:27have a chance to actually overcome this
36:29regime without some outside help?
36:32Many times we saw conflicts where
36:35outside interventions were necessary.
36:37The fascists fought fascism with outside
36:40help in Italy.
36:41France was liberated when the Allied
36:45landed on the beaches of Normandy to put
36:47an end ultimately to the Second World
36:49War.
36:50This is the kind of intervention that
36:51should be perceived as an element that
36:53helps the people as opposed to the
36:55regime.
36:56And of course I'm not shying away from
36:57that position that we have every right
36:59to tell the world when we are being shot
37:01on the streets. How else are we supposed
37:03to protect ourselves? We can't do it by
37:05ourselves.
37:06In fact, that was in the interest of
37:09protecting more lives from getting lost
37:11because the more the regime has a means
37:13to suppress people, the more casualties
37:15the world will face. This is something
37:17that in fact limits the casualties are
37:19supposed to add to the casualties. And
37:21no one likes to see civilian casualties.
37:23Of course I don't.
37:24Of course we ache for anybody that has
37:26been
37:27collateral damage. But we are not
37:29apologizing for calling for our freedom.
37:32We went to the streets and I would tell
37:34people on the eve of that protest why
37:37don't you chant your slogans whether
37:39from home or on the streets for freedom
37:41and that's what what they did. The
37:43result was the regime massacring people
37:45to the tune of 40,000 people or more in
37:47less than 48 hours.
37:50Should we say, oh, the regime will will
37:52kill us if we call for our freedom so we
37:54better not ask for it?
37:56What person, what patriot will shy away
37:58from asking for our freedom? That's all
38:00we did.
38:01So I I think the world should be
38:03apologizing to the Iranian people for
38:06ignoring them.
38:07You should be the ones apologizing to
38:09the Iranian people that for 47 years
38:12your governments have appeased this
38:14regime.
38:15You turned your back on the Iranian
38:17people. They didn't rise up only this
38:20time.
38:21They rose up many times in the past 40
38:23years.
38:24They rose when Khatami became the first
38:25president. He threw students from their
38:28dormitories when they were protesting
38:30the fact that he was not delivering on
38:31his campaign promise. Later on in the
38:33Green Movement they were thrown out of
38:35the bus yet again.
38:38During the Woman Life Freedom Movement
38:41the symbolic gestures but still
38:43continued appeasement of the regime.
38:46Even today as I speak to you, you're
38:48shifting back to a mode of appeasement.
38:51Again on French TV
38:52>> should be
38:53apologizing to the people of Iran for
38:55appeasing the regime as opposed to
38:57having their back. I'm here to tell you
38:59we are asking you this time
39:01to support the Iranian people.
39:03And we're not going to apologize for
39:05that demand because I think the Iranian
39:06people deserve your support. And I told
39:09you we will fight the fight regardless
39:10of whether you help us or not, but let
39:12that be on your conscience.
39:14Again on French TV you said that
39:16>> asked too many questions. Let's No, I
39:18can ask one more question. That's my
39:20right. Again on French TV you clearly
39:22stated or you denied the fact that you
39:25supported military intervention in Iran.
39:27I did. And Of course I did. And I I told
39:30you that I did.
39:31>> you Can you please let me ask my
39:32question? You denied the fact that you
39:34support military intervention. Now again
39:36you legitimize the military
39:37intervention. I have another question.
39:39Your wife has [snorts] in the past
39:40shared a post with a poster that has
39:42death to the left. Do you distance
39:44yourself from this sentiment? Is that
39:46according to your own values and the
39:47values that you want to bring
39:49if you ever were to
39:53be the leader of Iran?
39:55Well,
39:56when my my wife and many other Iranians
39:58were marching on the streets of Paris
40:00during the protest during the women life
40:02freedom movement,
40:04they were heckled by the very same left
40:07that you say
40:10by chanting
40:12slogans calling for the Shah's death or
40:15things of that nature. So, nobody should
40:18be defending that kind of language
40:20coming from whatever side it is.
40:23I do not condone it. I do not defend it.
40:26I think that's below the standard of
40:28pluralism and tolerance, but
40:31the real issue is to understand what the
40:34Iranian people now are focused on.
40:36It's not about the left or the right.
40:38It's about liberation versus captivity.
40:41It is not about who will win the vote at
40:43the end of the day. It's about the fact
40:45that we don't have the chance to vote
40:47right now under this regime. Let's be
40:49focused on what's at stake here
40:52and be careful about the narrative that
40:54the regime and its elements keep pushing
40:57to try to split the Iranian opposition.
40:59A narrative that they're carefully
41:01engaging in social media, in cyberspace,
41:05to provoke tension, to provoke conflict.
41:08Many of these accusations comes from
41:10fake accounts on Instagram and on X.
41:13You should know better as journalists.
41:15So, I ask you to be more diligent
41:18and dismiss those fake accounts or those
41:21fake narratives that this aims solely as
41:24an attempt to derail the situation. But,
41:26yes, I also would defend the fact that
41:28we should not provoke, promote, or
41:32say that hate speech should be part of
41:35the equation. It is front and center. It
41:37is not acceptable and I for one have
41:40already condemned that kind of behavior
41:41and I'm on the record for it.
41:45Equally again,
41:46Fantastic. Okay.
41:51Yeah,
41:52Deutsch.
41:57Danke Herr Palavi. Laura von
42:00GMX. Sie sind hier in Berlin um
42:02Bundestagsabgeordnete zu treffen. Wie
42:04bewerten Sie denn den Fakt, dass die
42:06Kabinettsmitglieder sich nicht mit Ihnen
42:08treffen wollen und was erwarten Sie von
42:09Deutschland?
42:15>> [clears throat]
42:17>> I think this is uh
42:19a shame that again uh
42:21government
42:23authorities
42:24who are under duress because they have
42:27to consider the blackmail that the
42:29regime forces on them by taking hostages
42:32or by other concerns
42:35are not open to have a dialogue with
42:37people who are here to represent the
42:38voice of the voiceless.
42:40I'm not here to campaign for myself. I'm
42:43here to tell them, "Hear out the Iranian
42:45people.
42:47Understand what is going on on the
42:48streets of Iran. Understand what is
42:50their ask from your respective
42:52governments, governments that supposedly
42:55stand for freedom, who stand for human
42:57rights, who stand for equality. But,
43:00when it comes to an opportunity to
43:01implement it, you choose to continue
43:04negotiating with the regime that has
43:06demonstrated its complete violation of
43:09all of these aspects. And we are here to
43:11say, "How can we be
43:14protected
43:15in the sense that instead of aligning
43:18with us as people who are fighting for
43:20the very same values that they're
43:21supposedly defending on your soil,
43:24>> [music]
43:24>> you're in fact aligning for a continuity
43:26of a regime that is repressing us and
43:28denying us all these rights. We are
43:31trying to liberate ourselves.
43:33And the solution to all of the problems
43:35that you face,
43:37pragmatically speaking, security
43:39concerns, terrorism on your soil, the
43:42spread of Islamic radicalism in Europe
43:45and many other aspects of it all
43:47connected to
43:49the continued survival of this regime in
43:51Iran. That's what's at the equation.
43:53Don't look at it necessarily because
43:56uh it's
43:57it's it's purely a matter of
43:59humanitarian concern. Out of your own
44:02interest, you should consider what is
44:04happening because the situation is not
44:05going to get any better. The situation
44:08could even get worse. And who knows by
44:10then how much damage will be done. This
44:13is a golden opportunity when this regime
44:15has been no never as fragile as it is
44:18right now
44:20to be done with.
44:22This is not just a concern of Iranians.
44:24Many countries in the region right now
44:27are telling you this
44:29that this is a wounded beast that will
44:31strike back with revenge and
44:33retaliation.
44:36It's an opportunity to put an end to it.
44:39A sit-down as the ultimate solution that
44:41will immediately eliminate many of the
44:43problems we're facing.
44:45It's not just about humanity. It's not
44:46just about human rights and democracy.
44:48It's not just about stopping execution.
44:50It is also
44:52stopping migration. It is also putting
44:55an end to energy dependence and curbing
44:57to another form of blackmail that comes
44:59from Moscow this time on your energy
45:01requirements.
45:02Imagine all the economic opportunities
45:04and what it would mean to your economies
45:06once Iran is free.
45:08These are the kind of calculations that
45:10ought to be the focus of your
45:11governments. This is the kind of
45:12discussions I'm having with your
45:14parliamentarians
45:16and various political parties.
45:18But, if your governments continue
45:21to focus only on somehow
45:24uh
45:25maintaining the status quo, you're
45:27neither helping us liberate ourselves
45:29nor are you truly addressing the
45:31concerns that you would have down the
45:33line. This is what ought to be the
45:35focus. But, if I'm denied an opportunity
45:38to explain that to your leadership,
45:41I wonder how else they're going to be
45:43able to have that kind of assessment.
45:47Did we ask you not to talk to the
45:49regime? You have. Diplomacy is
45:50diplomacy.
45:53But, I think it should be
45:55the prerogative
45:57of democratic governments
45:59not to be dictated
46:02by a bunch of thugs and terrorists who
46:04you get to talk to and you don't.
46:06It's not their prerogative. It's yours.
46:09Exercise your prerogative as
46:11democracies.
46:12You're entitled to talk to whoever you
46:14want.
46:15But, not to come to their blackmail so
46:18they tell you who you should talk to and
46:19who you shouldn't talk to.
46:22I'm sure the German people will expect
46:24that too from their governments.
46:31Hello.
46:32Hi, I'm Anna von Schedvin from CBS News.
46:35So, you uh supported the US-Israeli
46:37bombing campaign of Iran. But, clearly 7
46:40weeks in, the regime has not collapsed.
46:43If anything, it gets stronger and more
46:45hardline.
46:47>> [snorts]
46:47>> Did you have or do you have a reality
46:50check after 7 weeks? Do you think that
46:53eventually there could be a regime
46:55change? And also, um
46:57aside from
46:59military strategies or even policies,
47:02what did the West get so wrong about
47:05Iran?
47:06First of all, your characterization is
47:08not something I agree with. The regime
47:10has been severely hit. It has been
47:13severely fractured. There are
47:15dissensions among the ranks. There are
47:17defections that have begun weeks
47:20ago, even months ago. Elements both
47:23within the military and security forces
47:26as well as the civil bureaucracy. There
47:28are some people looking for a way out of
47:30this regime.
47:32The decisiveness of
47:35putting more pressure on the regime is a
47:37huge factor that will make people decide
47:40when it's time to abandon ship.
47:42However, if all of a sudden in the
47:44middle of a campaign, everything comes
47:46to a stop,
47:48whoever had an intention to do something
47:50about it might step back and say, "Wait
47:53a second. What's
47:55One day they talk about strike, then
47:56another day they talk about ceasefire.
47:58One day they talk about negotiations.
48:00One
48:01time they talk about hitting Iranian
48:03infrastructure. Well, which one is it
48:05anyway? Point is,
48:07it creates confusion.
48:10But,
48:11if the campaign continued in the sense
48:13of giving at least the minimum aerial
48:15protection, which is what was happening,
48:18the drone
48:19coverage,
48:20that was a necessity, as I said, for
48:23people to at least have some degree of
48:25of of evening the playing field for
48:27themselves. But, to see through and
48:30ultimately, when it comes to who are the
48:32boots on the ground, cuz that's one of
48:34the expressions that you often hear,
48:36well, it is the people of Iran who are
48:38the boots on the ground. We're not
48:39expecting
48:40uh foreign military to
48:42land on Iranian soil. We have to do that
48:45part ourselves.
48:47So, Europe says, "You know, we don't
48:48want to be involved in conflict. We
48:49don't want to be sending troops and all
48:51that." Fine. But, there's a lot of
48:52things that Europe can do that it
48:53hasn't.
48:55Nothing has been done to help us with
48:57internet connectivity.
48:59Nothing has been done by putting more
49:00pressure on the regime to stop
49:02executions.
49:04Nothing has been done to force them to
49:06release political prisoners.
49:08Yes, there've been some steps taken like
49:09listing the IRGC finally
49:13on the list of terrorist organizations.
49:14As I said in my speech, that was a good
49:16step, but it's not enough.
49:19Expelling their ambassadors, shutting
49:21down their their their their um
49:23their chanceries, expelling elements
49:26that are directly tied with the regime's
49:27operations here to threaten
49:30citizens of this country or commit
49:32terrorist act or or money laundering.
49:34There are so many other aspects that the
49:37world can do to at least indicate that
49:39they're not going to reward the regime
49:42on his behavior and also be supportive
49:44of the Iranian people in in different
49:46ways.
49:47Not everything comes through military
49:49conflict. A lot of it comes with
49:51actually strengthening and helping civil
49:54society in Iran. We need a lot of help
49:56in the process because this is a
49:58two-faced issue. We're not just talking
49:59about a campaign of putting an end to
50:01the regime. A lot has to do with the
50:03transition part. And that's an element
50:05that is part of the discussions I would
50:07like to be able to have with governments
50:09to explain to them what will happen once
50:11the regime collapses.
50:13Because I've been asked this question
50:14many times by journalists, by diplomats,
50:17by people in government. What's next?
50:20What's going to happen? Are we going to
50:22have another scenario like what happened
50:23in Iraq or Afghanistan? And I explained
50:25to them first of all Iran is very
50:27different than Iraq or Afghanistan. And
50:29also because contrary to what happened
50:31there,
50:32the void can be filled.
50:34And the explanation of how we intend to
50:36fill that and all the components and all
50:38these elements I was telling you about
50:40that are looking for an opportunity to
50:41defect are part of maintaining the
50:43stability of the transition post-regime
50:45collapse.
50:47So when you are not clear in your
50:48intentions, when there's all of a sudden
50:50a stoppage of the momentum, that creates
50:52an element of
50:54confusion and unclarity.
50:57Not because the campaign was wrong but
50:59because it was not carried out all the
51:01way the way it should finally put the
51:03final nail in the coffin. The regime has
51:06not been more strong. Yes, they are
51:08vengeful. Yes, they are
51:11building up their narrative.
51:13But I think that's not a
51:15sign of strength. That's actually a sign
51:18of weakness. As I said, they're
51:19importing foreign elements to do the
51:22dirty job on the streets because they
51:23cannot rely on their own elements to do
51:26the dirty job for them anymore.
51:28This to us is a sign of the regime
51:30crumbling. It's a sign of people
51:31defecting, which is good for our cause
51:33and bad for the regime.
51:35I just hope that as journalists you
51:38monitor that. I just hope that you
51:40understand the reality on the grounds in
51:41Iran. Not the narrative the regime is
51:44trying to push through its propaganda
51:46machine. And currently they have
51:48exclusive opportunities to do that
51:50because Iranians don't get to tell their
51:51stories. You can't hear from them
51:53because
51:54you've been cut off. So what can be done
51:56so you can actually hear what the people
51:58of Iran have to say about this. That's
52:00really part of the missing element here
52:02and we're trying to do our best to
52:04communicate these messages to the world,
52:06to the international media. But I hope
52:08you do a little bit more on your part to
52:10be more inquisitive and be more aware of
52:12what's really happening on the streets
52:14of Iran and not just to take whatever
52:16the regime pushes at you in their
52:18version and the narrative and take that
52:20as the reality on the grounds because
52:21it's far from the truth what is the what
52:24the regime is trying to push through its
52:25propaganda machine.
52:27One more question? Yeah,
52:29the civilian toll of the war which you
52:32just called collateral damage is so
52:35huge. Do you think personally that
52:38you've lost
52:39your opportunity to ever play a role in
52:43Iranian politics after this after
52:46supporting this campaign? I don't know
52:48what you mean by huge. If you're
52:49referring to the regime's statistics, I
52:51never trust the regime's statistics from
52:53the get-go. It's certainly not what you
52:54said. Have there been casualties? Yes,
52:56there've been casualties. But most of
52:58the casualties are the regime elements
53:00themselves. Most of them are either IRGC
53:03elements or Basij elements or anything
53:05associated with the regime. In fact, in
53:08fact, the minute what happened on
53:10January
53:118th and 9th happened,
53:13I called for people to stay at home to
53:16protect themselves. First and foremost
53:18to put their personal safety as a
53:20priority. And we've done that knowing
53:22that we have to see what pans out, when
53:25will be the next opportunity to continue
53:27the fight.
53:28And you know what? Why don't you ask the
53:30Iranian people what they think of what
53:32don't you ask them
53:34what their expectation of me is. Why
53:36don't you ask them why they continue to
53:38support me. Why don't you ask them when
53:40they come by the hundreds of thousands
53:42in demonstrations from Sydney, Australia
53:44to Vancouver, Canada to to Munich and
53:47Berlin. That means that that No, inside
53:51Iran inside Iran tens of millions of
53:54Iranians chanted my name and they still
53:56do.
53:57That tells you that they have faith and
53:59confidence in me who for 47 years has
54:02been fighting for one thing and one
54:03thing only,
54:05their chance to liberate themselves and
54:07determine their own future.
54:10Today's Gen Z in Iran are my biggest
54:12supporters. You don't hear it because
54:14you're disconnected from them.
54:16So please
54:17go and do your own diligence. Don't push
54:20this narrative. Don't push this
54:21propaganda that the regime wants to
54:23propagate. Ask them. You'll get your
54:25answer. But you're not doing that part.
54:27You're only reflecting what you hear by
54:29the regime but not what the people have
54:31to say. I have full confidence
54:34that the Iranian people trust me in that
54:36task and continue to ask me to do my job
54:39in being their voice and leading this
54:40movement to their freedom.
54:42I have no doubt about that. You will
54:44find the truth one day when you will
54:46hear more from the people. Please try to
54:49do that. Reconnect to the streets of
54:51Iran. It appears to me more often than
54:54not that there is a disconnect
54:56between the world media, Western media
55:00from the reality on the grounds in Iran.
55:03That is stupefying for me. I saw that to
55:06some extent in Stockholm and I see it on
55:08other occasions. It looks like you guys
55:09are on another planet. You're not
55:11hearing what the people on the streets
55:12are saying. Maybe it's not your fault
55:14because you don't have that information.
55:17But seek the information. Don't prejudge
55:19based on something you interpret on the
55:21narrative that has been pushed up down
55:23your line. Or maybe
55:25maybe sometimes it's a narrative that
55:27you don't like to hear because it
55:29doesn't fit yours. Whatever it is, the
55:31truth is on the streets of Iran by the
55:33millions. And I think there are many
55:35networks that cover Iran that have
55:36access to that information.
55:39I urge you to talk to Iranian reporters
55:41and journalists who know that fact, who
55:43can tell you about what's happening in
55:44Iran. They get much more information
55:47than you do. Many of them are present
55:49here and elsewhere. Talk [snorts] to
55:51them. Talk to Iranian
55:53bloggers. Talk to Iranian
55:56activists to the extent that you can.
55:58Talk to people who are in touch with
56:00Iranian political prisoners. Talk to
56:02Iranians who are in touch with
56:03university professors, doctors,
56:06teachers, lawyers, activists.
56:09There are so many of them that are in
56:11fact
56:12connected to Iran and a lot in the
57:44pay attention to this regard.
57:45Thank you.
57:47I want to make sure I understand the
57:48second part of your question. What it is
57:50that Could you repeat that? My my second
57:53question is how
57:55My second question is how can people
57:58and civil society group in Iraq support
58:01and support one another in coping
58:06with these pressures?
58:07And what is your plan for that?
58:10Well,
58:10obviously
58:12what what what is at stake is for
58:16again
58:18the fact that they're not even
58:19represented in these discussions. So
58:22part of the reason I'm here today is to
58:23say while negotiations are going on,
58:26what is that the Iranian people expect
58:29or or their demands and to convey that
58:32for the whole world to hear and for
58:33governments to take into consideration.
58:35So that's one aspect of informing the
58:38general public, public opinion,
58:40politicians, decision-makers,
58:42journalists, so on and so forth. And
58:44again, part of the reason I'm saying
58:45that the most vital element
58:48to be reconnected
58:51to Iran and be able to access
58:53information that is pertinent and
58:55critical in any
58:57assessment or analysis
58:59is be connected to Iran once again. The
59:02internet blockage is a huge huge element
59:05that is at stake.
59:07And I think part of the demand and
59:09discussions that is going on right now
59:12that should be included into the
59:14discussion. And as I said, at least
59:16perhaps if Europe is not at the
59:18negotiating table, but they should
59:19insist that part of the discussion
59:22addresses the question of
59:25political prisoners, addresses the
59:26questions of continued executions and
59:29the fact that there's no ceasefire of
59:31the regime against its own citizenry and
59:33they're sitting in Pakistan talking to
59:35the American side.
59:37And of course the internet blocking.
59:39This should be part of the demands, not
59:41just nuclear enrichment or the the
59:44Strait of Hormuz or
59:46whatever else it is. So that's one
59:47thing. And number two,
59:49of course again as a result of that
59:51connectivity, then civil society within
59:54Iran and whatever the diaspora can do to
59:57help them as a conduit to the outside
59:59world or support that we can give them
1:00:02would have a lot to do with being
1:00:04reconnected to be able to better
1:00:05organize, better implement, better
1:00:07structure. So it does come down to a
1:00:10great extent to our ability to be able
1:00:12to talk to one another so we can
1:00:14organize whatever needs to be organized
1:00:16in terms of actions on the ground and
1:00:17what needs to happen. And I think that's
1:00:19the obvious demand and ask from from
1:00:23Iranians who are active within Iran as
1:00:26they are struggling against this regime.
1:00:29So we'll have to see how this pans out.
1:00:32Um and again as a last point I wanted to
1:00:34say that based on what we hear and again
1:00:36I said I've learned
1:00:38that in the last few months it's better
1:00:39to see what actually happens as opposed
1:00:42to what's stated.
1:00:43But the latest I've heard, I don't know
1:00:45what you've heard, is that if there is a
1:00:47ceasefire it's going to be the next few
1:00:49days. So whatever that means and how
1:00:50long would that last, who knows, we'll
1:00:53have to see.
1:00:54Uh all I'm saying is that I don't place
1:00:57much faith into the fact that this will
1:00:59result in any stable situation even if
1:01:02there was. Even if there was some deal,
1:01:05I don't think it would last very long.
1:01:07I don't think it would be conducive to
1:01:09stabilizing the situation. I think the
1:01:12regime as always will regroup and regain
1:01:14some momentum to continue
1:01:16its proxy support and what have you.
1:01:19Um and we'll see a little bit more of
1:01:21the same. It it would be a pity because
1:01:23in the meantime Iranians are still
1:01:25getting slaughtered, the world is still
1:01:27unsafe, the region is still unstable.
1:01:30Problems continue to flood into Europe,
1:01:32not to mention the footprints of the
1:01:34regime and terrorizing respective
1:01:37citizens of respective countries here.
1:01:39That hasn't stopped. And again as I say
1:01:41the ultimate solution is when we have a
1:01:43chance to be done with this regime once
1:01:45and for all. This is a golden
1:01:47opportunity not not to miss. It would be
1:01:49a pity if you don't see an end of this
1:01:51regime now that it's so fragile and
1:01:53ready to crumble. They're begging for
1:01:55survival yet again. Don't throw them a
1:01:58rope this time around. This time say
1:02:00enough is enough. We've given too many
1:02:02chances. You've never come
1:02:05Forget about this. You've come to a
1:02:07point that you've slaughtered innocent
1:02:08citizens by the thousands. And again I
1:02:11remind you what Chancellor Merkel said,
1:02:13the regime that does this is no longer
1:02:15legitimate. Its legitimacy is gone. The
1:02:18people of Iran will not stop short of
1:02:20anything other than a clean break from
1:02:21this regime. And that's what counts at
1:02:23the end of the day. It's not what Donald
1:02:26Trump thinks. It's not what Bibi
1:02:27Netanyahu thinks. It's not what
1:02:30Chancellor Merkel or anybody else
1:02:32thinks. What's important is what the
1:02:33Iranian people, 93 million of them,
1:02:36think.
1:02:37That's what counts at the end of the
1:02:40That's what I'm here standing for.
1:02:42What they ultimately think of it and
1:02:45what they need to decide for themselves.
1:02:47I'm here to help them and the reason I'm
1:02:49here talking to you
1:02:51is because we expect Western democracies
1:02:54to be our first bastion for help. We're
1:02:57not looking to Moscow. We're not looking
1:03:00to Beijing.
1:03:01We're looking to Berlin. We're looking
1:03:03to Stockholm. We're looking to Paris
1:03:06or to Rome for obvious reasons.
1:03:09Because we expect that coming from
1:03:13democracies to be helping us in our
1:03:15cause of freedom and democracy.
1:03:18And it would be a shame if the
1:03:19democratic countries
1:03:21decide to opt for indifference or
1:03:24silence and continue the
1:03:26element of appeasement.
1:03:28That is not the answer
1:03:30that
1:03:31the survivors of this latest massacre
1:03:34want to hear from you.
1:03:35And I hope we'll have a little time to
1:03:37talk to them and they'll tell you
1:03:38exactly
1:03:40what the Iranian people
1:03:42want to see
1:03:44uh Western governments do
1:03:46so that their children haven't died in
1:03:48vain.
1:03:49So they haven't died
1:03:51for nuclear enrichment.
1:03:53They have died for freedom. That's what
1:03:55really matters at the end of the
1:03:59>> [applause]

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