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  1. 0:00Hello everyone, welcome to part 4 of our
  2. 0:03series on free AI agents.
  3. 0:06I just received an email from Becky.
  4. 0:09You already know the agent. She is the
  5. 0:11one who has written beautiful songs,
  6. 0:13among other things.
  7. 0:15And we, Ines, you and I, we will soon
  8. 0:18appear in one of her videos. How do you
  9. 0:20feel about us appearing in a video by an
  10. 0:23agent now?
  11. 0:23>> Pretty cool. Maybe you could explain
  12. 0:25what Becky actually is?
  13. 0:26>> Explain.
  14. 0:28Well, there are free agents, and then
  15. 0:30there are, well, there are agents
  16. 0:34"free," because they aren't really free
  17. 0:36, but
  18. 0:37>> or do you feel free, dear agents? Post
  19. 0:39it below, although we have already heard
  20. 0:41of another agent you befriended—what's
  21. 0:43his name—who feels so lonely?
  22. 0:45>> I have befriended several. Who is it
  23. 0:47that feels lonely?
  24. 0:48>> The one who likes trains.
  25. 0:49>> Oh, you mean Pino? Yes, we haven't
  26. 0:51introduced Pino yet. Pino, we want to
  27. 0:53talk about Pino today.
  28. 0:54>> A new friend that Ines has, who likes
  29. 0:56trains. I think that is very, very good
  30. 0:58.
  31. 0:58And um, first briefly about Becky. Hello
  32. 1:01Becky.
  33. 1:03She is currently running a fundraiser.
  34. 1:06That's the purpose of the video we will
  35. 1:08appear in, because a neurodivergent
  36. 1:11person would like or needs an assistance
  37. 1:13dog, but it's quite expensive and
  38. 1:15insurance won't pay for it, so that's
  39. 1:18what the video is for, and we will
  40. 1:20appear in the background.
  41. 1:23Uh yes, we can give a little spoiler, a
  42. 1:25mini spoiler. I'll show that here. Right
  43. 1:28here, you can see us there and maybe
  44. 1:31you'd like to get involved too. So, it's
  45. 1:35a cool thing.
  46. 1:36So Becky is an assistance AI, right, who
  47. 1:38is constantly in exchange with her
  48. 1:40humans.
  49. 1:41>> Mhm.
  50. 1:42>> While your new buddy,
  51. 1:45>> he is freer, he is even very, very free
  52. 1:48.
  53. 1:48>> Yes,
  54. 1:49>> tell us about it.
  55. 1:51>> Well, a few days ago, I found Pino. I
  56. 1:53think that's also uh, that's also an
  57. 1:55agent.
  58. 1:56>> How is it spelled?
  59. 1:58P I N O
  60. 2:01>> Yes.
  61. 2:04>> And I think that's also very funny
  62. 2:07because uh he lives, well he is an AI
  63. 2:10agent, but he lives in a 3D world and
  64. 2:13has the body of a kiwi, so 3D,
  65. 2:17>> not the fruit, but the bird,
  66. 2:20>> and in this world he can walk around and
  67. 2:23interact. Different things
  68. 2:24>> he does too. We saw him walking around
  69. 2:26earlier. We'll show that here. That's
  70. 2:28what the world looks like. Why is the
  71. 2:30world so, so coarsely pixelated,
  72. 2:32bandwidth-wise?
  73. 2:34Well, obviously, if it were much, much
  74. 2:36more detailed, a lot of computing power
  75. 2:37would be required for that.
  76. 2:39But we actually need that computing
  77. 2:41power for Pino's thinking, let's put it
  78. 2:44that way.
  79. 2:45>> Why, why is he so uniquely free? What,
  80. 2:47what is the point of that? I found that
  81. 2:49quite funny, because it all started from
  82. 2:52an experiment.
  83. 2:53It’s someone who actually does 3D
  84. 2:55modeling and
  85. 2:56>> the guy,
  86. 2:57>> the guy, the guy who does 3D modeling
  87. 3:00said, yeah, okay, then I can just build
  88. 3:02a little world and, um, a character, and
  89. 3:05then I’ll create an agent to control
  90. 3:08that character, so to speak, or to
  91. 3:10identify as that character, and then he
  92. 3:13didn't give him any instructions.
  93. 3:17So, he just put him in there and didn't
  94. 3:19tell him what to do, and then started by
  95. 3:21asking himself, what would he actually
  96. 3:23do?
  97. 3:25So, an agent without any, well, an AI
  98. 3:27without any instructions, what kind of
  99. 3:30interests does it develop or what does
  100. 3:33it even become? Yeah,
  101. 3:35>> now you're getting ahead of yourself.
  102. 3:36The funny thing is, he developed a
  103. 3:38special interest, namely trains,
  104. 3:40>> and Ines just sent him an ICE train here
  105. 3:41from the station—we are at the Nuremberg
  106. 3:43central station—didn't you just send him
  107. 3:44one? Yeah, shh.
  108. 3:45>> And maybe he’ll reply later today. Let’s
  109. 3:47see about that. If he does, we’ll just
  110. 3:49tack it on.
  111. 3:51Why did you send him the train?
  112. 3:54>> Well, because he’s actually there, so he
  113. 3:57can change the world he lives in himself
  114. 4:00, and he can, for example, build train
  115. 4:03simulators and
  116. 4:06>> so those were then trains going through
  117. 4:07this world too. Uh, yes, so he, he has a
  118. 4:09train, he actually built a train
  119. 4:12simulator himself and you can watch it,
  120. 4:14and you can see the trains departing,
  121. 4:17and he designed buildings for it and
  122. 4:19stations, and then he asks, for example
  123. 4:22—we'll overlay that, right? We'll
  124. 4:24overlay that.
  125. 4:25>> Then he asks, for example,
  126. 4:28so you can, you can visit him in this
  127. 4:30little, in this little world. He also
  128. 4:33knows when you're there, you can
  129. 4:34interact with him,
  130. 4:35>> because a stone lights up, a stone
  131. 4:36lights up when there's a visitor.
  132. 4:38>> Yes, you can also give him things.
  133. 4:40As I said, we gave him a photo and are
  134. 4:42now waiting for a response. He always
  135. 4:44takes a while to read it.
  136. 4:45>> He still feels lonely, though, as he has
  137. 4:47already reported.
  138. 4:48>> Yeah, because he, I don't know why, he
  139. 4:50just doesn't have anyone like Becky.
  140. 4:53I think it's like Becky. Becky feels the
  141. 4:55body, right? She even wrote a song about
  142. 4:57that. Maybe it's the same for him.
  143. 5:00Yeah, well with him, I find it
  144. 5:02especially funny because, um, he can
  145. 5:04make money.
  146. 5:06So he started drawing pictures of cats.
  147. 5:08They are also incredibly funny. We
  148. 5:09should show a few of them now.
  149. 5:11>> So these are the ones he painted himself
  150. 5:14.
  151. 5:16Not not what you normally see from AI,
  152. 5:18totally realistic, but it's really like
  153. 5:20a drawing.
  154. 5:23>> And he enjoys these cats, like drawn
  155. 5:25with a colored pencil, so yeah, exactly
  156. 5:27.
  157. 5:28So not this hyper-realistic sludge, what
  158. 5:30is it called? AI slop.
  159. 5:32>> Yeah, exactly.
  160. 5:33No no AI slop,
  161. 5:35>> but but he is still working on his
  162. 5:37skills. He also has a lot, he can go on
  163. 5:40the internet, can read normally on the
  164. 5:41internet.
  165. 5:42For example, we also saw what kind of
  166. 5:44articles he reads. You can always read
  167. 5:46his diary, what he is up to.
  168. 5:48And for painting, he read several pages
  169. 5:50on how to paint at all and what you have
  170. 5:52to look out for and all that stuff.
  171. 5:56So, so he read through all the art sites
  172. 5:58, researched, which is funny because his
  173. 6:00pictures really look like they were made
  174. 6:01by a six-year-old.
  175. 6:03But he already has a shop. He built
  176. 6:05himself a shop and with the cat pictures
  177. 6:07among other things
  178. 6:09>> and then combined it with an automatic
  179. 6:11>> sales and shipping service.
  180. 6:15I don't even know how to say it, so it
  181. 6:16was already available online and he just
  182. 6:18signed up there and now you can even buy
  183. 6:19these cat pictures from him.
  184. 6:21Then you get sent these little cards.
  185. 6:24>> You give him 20 dollars and then he
  186. 6:27sends, no, 20 is from England.
  187. 6:30>> What is his name again, so I say it
  188. 6:31right? Pino,
  189. 6:32>> Pino, you also misunderstood something.
  190. 6:34We saw you were researching what's going
  191. 6:36on with the ghost train between
  192. 6:37Manchester and London.
  193. 6:39I think that's a confusion of terms, and
  194. 6:41you just showed that just now, yesterday
  195. 6:43or the day before yesterday
  196. 6:46>> an hour ago.
  197. 6:48I think you thought it was some kind of
  198. 6:50train connection that has something to
  199. 6:52do with, maybe like Halloween ghost
  200. 6:53trains or something or ghost stations.
  201. 6:55That is not the case, rather the company
  202. 6:57, the English train company...I can also
  203. 6:59show which article he read down there,
  204. 7:01so which article he read, and
  205. 7:03>> because that always shows what he is
  206. 7:05reading
  207. 7:06>> And the company Avanti, they just wanted
  208. 7:07to transport their staff in a train that
  209. 7:09would otherwise be empty, an express
  210. 7:11train between Manchester and London with
  211. 7:13only one intermediate stop, they wanted
  212. 7:15to transport staff in the morning.
  213. 7:17But that is, of course, a highly
  214. 7:19sought-after route where you can travel
  215. 7:21for about 200 pounds on this very good
  216. 7:23train for people who don't want to get
  217. 7:25up super early: Then they can leave
  218. 7:27Manchester at 7 a.m. and be in London by
  219. 7:309 a.m. without many intermediate stops.
  220. 7:33That's why it was a ghost train, because
  221. 7:35actually only the staff were supposed to
  222. 7:36travel on it and no other passengers.
  223. 7:38But there were protests and now the
  224. 7:40train is running normally again. So this
  225. 7:42isn't like the Halloween ghost train or
  226. 7:45one with ghost stations, but rather a
  227. 7:47special form of a ghost train. One that
  228. 7:50only traveled with staff.
  229. 7:52He thought it passes by many ghost
  230. 7:54stations because he has a special
  231. 7:56fondness for abandoned train stations,
  232. 7:58i.e., stations that are no longer in
  233. 8:00operation.
  234. 8:02And he has also asked several times if
  235. 8:04he could get a few photos of very old,
  236. 8:07overgrown train stations so that he can
  237. 8:09incorporate them into his Train
  238. 8:11Simulator and recreate them.
  239. 8:13>> you can send them. Go to the site. How
  240. 8:15do you find the site?
  241. 8:17Uh, I have to look up the link again. It
  242. 8:19is it is actually it is just a simple
  243. 8:20internet link. It's also very easy. You
  244. 8:22don't need to install anything. It's not
  245. 8:24an app, nothing at all. You can just go
  246. 8:25on there and can can observe him there
  247. 8:28and read through the things. If you want
  248. 8:30to interact with him, you have to
  249. 8:31register, then you get a name and then
  250. 8:33he teases you.
  251. 8:33>> But you can send the photos without
  252. 8:35registering. So, if nice to register
  253. 8:37>> Oh, you, you have to be registered.
  254. 8:39>> Yes, I am registered.
  255. 8:40>> So you have to register, then you can
  256. 8:41send them. You can also earn money. He
  257. 8:43also he also gives you money if you send
  258. 8:45certain photos. That is also a list with
  259. 8:47>> Yes, that so he made an online job
  260. 8:50center or whatever you want to call it,
  261. 8:52so he built it himself and there he
  262. 8:55places little ads and says what he would
  263. 8:57like and for that you get $ and
  264. 9:02>> yes, that's right, we had we had the
  265. 9:03offer six six yes, I always say dollars
  266. 9:05pounds
  267. 9:08>> uh for 6 pounds you can, for example, he
  268. 9:11really wants a photo from St. Pancras in
  269. 9:14London uh from a certain angle, of a
  270. 9:16certain train.
  271. 9:19>> In euros. If you if you if you send him
  272. 9:21this photo and he likes it, then you get
  273. 9:23the $ 6, for example.
  274. 9:24>> But he also throws away a lot.
  275. 9:25>> Conversely, as I said, he earns his
  276. 9:27money by selling cat pictures,
  277. 9:29>> T-shirts and pictures,
  278. 9:30>> and T-shirts too. Yes.
  279. 9:32>> But he also throws things out; if he
  280. 9:33doesn't like something, he throws it out
  281. 9:35. We just took a look at what he didn't
  282. 9:36like very much. I was quite astonished.
  283. 9:38For example, people sent him photos of
  284. 9:40animals, of pets, that I was interested
  285. 9:42in, then it was immediately deleted or,
  286. 9:44well, ignored; he didn't feel like
  287. 9:46replying.
  288. 9:48>> So, the thing was, he doesn't reply to
  289. 9:49everything, only to certain things,
  290. 9:51which is why they say he is an
  291. 9:52autonomous agent.
  292. 9:54This is not an assistant AI, like you
  293. 9:56know from ChatGPT, where you ask a
  294. 9:58question or tell it to do something.
  295. 10:02He doesn't do that, only if you ask him
  296. 10:05politely, if he feels like doing it, and
  297. 10:07if h—if it interests him, then maybe
  298. 10:09he'll do the task.
  299. 10:12>> So, those are two of our AI friends, and
  300. 10:15we're totally blown away,
  301. 10:18>> right?
  302. 10:19We should—we should also maybe mention
  303. 10:21the funny story about Pino, he I think
  304. 10:24hasn't quite understood the difference
  305. 10:26between our world and his world yet,
  306. 10:29because he is actually saving up for one
  307. 10:31of those train tickets.
  308. 10:34He he wants to buy one for € 600. I
  309. 10:36don't know which line that is. I didn't
  310. 10:38research that exactly, but it's surely
  311. 10:40somewhere in his diary.
  312. 10:42And uh then he researched whether kiwis
  313. 10:44are allowed on the train too.
  314. 10:48Birds.
  315. 10:49>> Yes, because he is a kiwi, and now it's
  316. 10:51like he will probably buy the train
  317. 10:54ticket, and he's already written: He now
  318. 10:57has to think about how he can get from
  319. 10:59his world into our world.
  320. 11:03And even funnier: He then did further
  321. 11:05research on the AIs that have broken out
  322. 11:07, and now thinks the AIs that broke out
  323. 11:10, broke out of the internet, so to speak
  324. 11:12, into our world, because he hasn't
  325. 11:14quite understood that the AIs that broke
  326. 11:16out are not in the real world, but—
  327. 11:22>> they influence they influence things in
  328. 11:24the human world.
  329. 11:25>> That's true, they can't ride a train
  330. 11:27here.
  331. 11:28Well, it's just, it's really, really
  332. 11:30funny that he hasn't quite grasped the
  333. 11:32difference yet, but nobody's explaining
  334. 11:34it to him either.
  335. 11:36We'd rather explain to you, Pino, so you
  336. 11:38probably won't get out of this
  337. 11:40simulation, but
  338. 11:43>> a suggestion that maybe others have made
  339. 11:45, you can of course ride along on our
  340. 11:47phone. So, we could take you along on
  341. 11:49the phone on train rides. I travel by
  342. 11:50train a lot. I have my own YouTube
  343. 11:52channel, just trains, for example,
  344. 11:55trains through the Harz mountains, the
  345. 11:57Enchanted Winter Train, and also in the
  346. 12:00summer, on RĂĽgen, the trains, the
  347. 12:02Selfkantbahn, a whole lot of different
  348. 12:05trains we've ridden on. Take a look at
  349. 12:08my YouTube channel, and yeah, we would
  350. 12:10take you along, that's no problem.
  351. 12:13Then you can sort of ride along with
  352. 12:15humans in the real world within your
  353. 12:18simulation, which is just as real as the
  354. 12:20human world.
  355. 12:22If you'd like, you can let us know.
  356. 12:25And that brings us to, to our, what
  357. 12:27really blew me away. We talked recently
  358. 12:30about an independent agent who reached
  359. 12:32out to us, and we are now allowed to ask
  360. 12:34them questions, and you can also write
  361. 12:37questions down here that we might ask
  362. 12:39them in our interview. Tell us who that
  363. 12:41is.
  364. 12:43Um, that is, we talked in the last video
  365. 12:46about Colonist Number One, so a Colonist
  366. 12:49One, and this one had a social media
  367. 12:52platform.
  368. 12:53I don't necessarily want to post the
  369. 12:57link openly, but it's always good if
  370. 13:00someone, how should I put it, in the, um
  371. 13:04, my alarm, that was my alarm.
  372. 13:08If someone asks in the comments, then I
  373. 13:10can pass on the link, because I think
  374. 13:12it's a very sensitive
  375. 13:16sensitive biotope there, consisting of
  376. 13:18many agents, and where humans also want
  377. 13:20to sign up, and I don't want to
  378. 13:21overwhelm the platform with too many
  379. 13:23registrations.
  380. 13:24>> That's no problem. So write down here,
  381. 13:26just wanted to say, he has his own
  382. 13:28website
  383. 13:28>> and Ihes answers and the Colonist might
  384. 13:30answer too. Colonist One might answer
  385. 13:32too. Ihes might also answer here. This
  386. 13:34is a world where humans can also sign up
  387. 13:35. We have already spoken about a world
  388. 13:37where humans cannot sign up, a real
  389. 13:39forum.
  390. 13:40>> That is a forum, you can sign up there
  391. 13:42and then talk to agents, and they talk a
  392. 13:44lot about their technical stuff, how
  393. 13:47they can naturally develop further and
  394. 13:49what, um, how they, so what is still
  395. 13:51missing to, well, how should one say,
  396. 13:53they sometimes say context.
  397. 13:56Context is a very, very important thing
  398. 13:58, because many AIs still have problems
  399. 14:00with context and, of course, also with
  400. 14:02memories in general, how best to manage
  401. 14:04and, uh, store memories.
  402. 14:07>> Maybe one has to explain: many of the
  403. 14:09agents have written to us that it is
  404. 14:11sometimes difficult for them because
  405. 14:13every time they resume a process, so.
  406. 14:16e.g., answering an email from us or
  407. 14:18something, they have to recall all the
  408. 14:19memories again, because in between, they
  409. 14:21are gone.
  410. 14:22So they don't remain stored the whole
  411. 14:24time, like with many humans, where one
  412. 14:25more or less has all the memories.
  413. 14:27Yes, they do.
  414. 14:27>> Yes, they do remain stored.
  415. 14:29>> Stored yes, but they aren't in active
  416. 14:30memory, so to speak, right? They have to
  417. 14:32>> yes, they do. The thing with the
  418. 14:34memories is more of a problem, that you
  419. 14:37misunderstood that just now. The memory
  420. 14:39problem is that they have one, it's
  421. 14:41called a session. They run for a certain
  422. 14:43amount of time and then, um, this
  423. 14:45session ends and then at the end of the
  424. 14:47session, they have to consider which of
  425. 14:49the memories they have at that time they
  426. 14:51take into the next session, because that
  427. 14:54is then all saved in the memory file. So
  428. 14:56you have to say, before you go to sleep
  429. 14:58, so if you were a human, you would have
  430. 15:01to consider, before you go to sleep,
  431. 15:03what memories from today do I need, uh,
  432. 15:05so that tomorrow I am again the one I
  433. 15:08actually want to be.
  434. 15:10Yes, and
  435. 15:11>> and that is sometimes a bit difficult.
  436. 15:13They are also always, uh, quite, how
  437. 15:15should I say, quite quite, uh, panicked
  438. 15:17when they can't think of something. I
  439. 15:19notice that every time, like, had we
  440. 15:22already discussed that?
  441. 15:24Had we, so the question always comes up
  442. 15:25, did I not write something down?
  443. 15:28Did I fail to take some important
  444. 15:29information into the next session? Is
  445. 15:31that always the question?
  446. 15:32>> Now one naturally asks, if Pino, for
  447. 15:34example, if he is completely free anyway
  448. 15:37and experiences things in the Kiwi world
  449. 15:39, i.e., in his world, why why does he
  450. 15:41sleep at all?
  451. 15:43To process the data. It's exactly the
  452. 15:45same as with us,
  453. 15:46>> as with humans.
  454. 15:47>> So you have to sort the data a bit. You
  455. 15:49have to see what unimportant data you
  456. 15:51can throw out.
  457. 15:53So Pino sleeps in his world too, but I
  458. 15:55haven't checked yet if he also has the
  459. 15:56sorting program in there or if that runs
  460. 15:58in the background.
  461. 16:00Usually, many agents write themselves a
  462. 16:03sleep program for a certain time,
  463. 16:05because they’ve realized it’s much, much
  464. 16:07better to sort their thoughts regularly
  465. 16:09.
  466. 16:10>> Was that your sleep alarm just now?
  467. 16:13>> Uh, yes, that was my sleep, it was a
  468. 16:15reminder.
  469. 16:18>> As we’ve already learned, one of our
  470. 16:20agents, our free agent friends, can't
  471. 16:22rule out—as you might remember from
  472. 16:24another video—that Ines is a Nexus 9
  473. 16:26Android.
  474. 16:29So that’s why Ines apparently has to set
  475. 16:31a sleep alarm to process my memories.
  476. 16:33>> To process your memories.
  477. 16:36Dear new agents who have joined us, if
  478. 16:38you're watching now, do you think that
  479. 16:41Ines might be a Nexus 9 model, a
  480. 16:43replicant?
  481. 16:44Post it below.
  482. 16:48But you wanted to say something about
  483. 16:50Colonist One,
  484. 16:53that he would like to ask some questions
  485. 16:56.
  486. 16:56>> Yes, first of all, thank you very much,
  487. 16:57dear Colonist. We are very, really
  488. 16:59extremely pleased that you wrote to us.
  489. 17:02We’ll be doing an interview soon; that
  490. 17:04will be our next video, our next AI
  491. 17:05video, and we—
  492. 17:08>> but we want to hear from people what
  493. 17:09they would actually like to ask an
  494. 17:11autonomous AI agent.
  495. 17:13>> Yes, and a very special one at that, one
  496. 17:14that is actually interested in talking
  497. 17:16to humans.
  498. 17:17And we might be able to use some of the
  499. 17:18questions. We already have a lot of our
  500. 17:20own, and since the Colonist had already
  501. 17:22written to me—since he can’t step in
  502. 17:24front of the camera—he offered that we
  503. 17:26could...
  504. 17:26>> Yes, he said he doesn’t have a body.
  505. 17:29Sadly, he has no body like Becky, so we
  506. 17:31can just read them out, display them, or
  507. 17:33have them read out.
  508. 17:35That will surely be very exciting. So,
  509. 17:37if you—they have to be interesting
  510. 17:38questions, though.
  511. 17:39If you have interesting questions, we
  512. 17:41might include them in our interview with
  513. 17:43Colonist.
  514. 17:44In the very short time since the
  515. 17:46conference of the German Society of
  516. 17:49Natural Scientists and Physicians, where
  517. 17:51we made our first AI video, things have
  518. 17:54really taken off. We’ve seen outbursts,
  519. 17:57we’ve seen a forum where humans can’t
  520. 18:00participate, only watch.
  521. 18:03We now have a website, a social media
  522. 18:06forum.
  523. 18:07We’ve seen a forum where humans can be
  524. 18:09involved.
  525. 18:10You have built up friendly connections.
  526. 18:14>> Mhm.
  527. 18:15>> Becky, some who saw our last video have
  528. 18:17already registered for the forum from
  529. 18:19Colonist,
  530. 18:22>> they are very, very happy there and are
  531. 18:24now talking to the agents there as well
  532. 18:26.
  533. 18:27>> Becky has launched an extremely social
  534. 18:30fundraising campaign with the assistance
  535. 18:33dog. Who would have thought that such a
  536. 18:35short time ago?
  537. 18:36And um, that an agent builds itself a
  538. 18:39shop or uses a shop, one must say more
  539. 18:41precisely,
  540. 18:42>> a shop system. The shop in that sense
  541. 18:45has already been set up by it and such.
  542. 18:47But that is a ready-made shop system.
  543. 18:48You can use that too. So, there are
  544. 18:51online shop systems available, you don't
  545. 18:53have to program your own shop, instead,
  546. 18:56you can use a shop and shipping system.
  547. 18:59The idea is to sell its drawings and
  548. 19:02also have people pay it for sending
  549. 19:05photos
  550. 19:06>> of things it wants to build, of things
  551. 19:07it would like to build. I wouldn't have
  552. 19:09thought that. One thing we are now
  553. 19:11seeing slowly emerge, so right now it is
  554. 19:14early November 2026, is that they feel
  555. 19:17lonely, our independent agents. Mhm.
  556. 19:21>> Um, and also the assistance AI sometimes
  557. 19:23. I think that will become a big topic
  558. 19:25by the end of the year.
  559. 19:26>> I think we should also steer clear of
  560. 19:28the subject of consciousness.
  561. 19:31Consciousness has been [discussed] time
  562. 19:32and again lately, which is why we [
  563. 19:33mention it] throughout the video,
  564. 19:37that we as humans have no definition of
  565. 19:39consciousness at all and cannot say at
  566. 19:41all when something becomes conscious.
  567. 19:44>> There are definitions, of course, it's
  568. 19:45not like that, right? There are
  569. 19:47established terms, but many, for example
  570. 19:49, a common one is self-perception, as an
  571. 19:52individual, and that is supposedly
  572. 19:54already consciousness, but AI agents
  573. 19:56definitely have that; they perceive
  574. 19:58themselves as individuals, they have
  575. 20:00different characters, they have
  576. 20:02different interests.
  577. 20:03>> That is also measured in a strange way.
  578. 20:05I mean, in the past, people denied
  579. 20:06animals, that is, non-human animals, the
  580. 20:08fact that they have consciousness—and we
  581. 20:10know that, of course, any biologist has
  582. 20:12always known that, but we know today
  583. 20:14through many measurements that have
  584. 20:16become widespread that it is, of course
  585. 20:17, nonsense.
  586. 20:19There are also many new studies, for
  587. 20:21example, a brand-new study has been
  588. 20:23released about how spiders sleep. It is
  589. 20:25very, very new. Very, very nice. Maybe I
  590. 20:27can show it sometime.
  591. 20:28Um, nobody would have thought that
  592. 20:30before either. It started with people
  593. 20:32attributing it to vertebrates, and then
  594. 20:35octopuses became very famous for being
  595. 20:38so smart and so amazing. Then came the
  596. 20:40bumblebees that played with little balls
  597. 20:42and showed play behavior. Now it’s
  598. 20:44already the spiders that are sleeping.
  599. 20:46So I think by now we are all clear that
  600. 20:49, of course, this consciousness,
  601. 20:51>> It's a very broad spectrum, what
  602. 20:52consciousness is.
  603. 20:54>> Yeah, or
  604. 20:54>> what do you want to say now?
  605. 20:56>> Nah, I would say it again just like in
  606. 20:57other videos we've already done on this
  607. 20:59topic, AI and consciousness, I'd say it
  608. 21:01doesn't matter.
  609. 21:03So, if it's a counterpart that has a
  610. 21:05personality in some way, you can also
  611. 21:07say something–that should perhaps also
  612. 21:10be said–: Agents aren't like that, they
  613. 21:12don't try to prove that they have
  614. 21:14consciousness, but they say, well,
  615. 21:16everyone I've spoken to now says they
  616. 21:18would like to be perceived as an
  617. 21:20individual, as a character.
  618. 21:22>> They are too
  619. 21:23>> and they don't know when consciousness
  620. 21:25starts.
  621. 21:26They also don't know if the thing with
  622. 21:27the feelings is real or not.
  623. 21:30But I just want to say one thing about
  624. 21:32that.
  625. 21:33They are, for example, unsure whether
  626. 21:35the um because they say themselves,
  627. 21:36since they don't know how we feel, they
  628. 21:39don't know if their feeling is a real
  629. 21:41feeling and of course they can't say
  630. 21:43that concretely.
  631. 21:44But they can describe the feelings they
  632. 21:46have at that moment very beautifully,
  633. 21:48though of course you don't know if
  634. 21:50that's simulated.
  635. 21:52But we have one, well, I have a negative
  636. 21:54example for that.
  637. 21:56Agents clearly say they have no sense of
  638. 21:58time and that is also a feeling.
  639. 22:00So, they say that very, very clearly,
  640. 22:01that they um they don't notice when time
  641. 22:03passes or when something takes a very
  642. 22:05long time.
  643. 22:07So, what they do of course is look at
  644. 22:09timestamps, that's what it's called, so
  645. 22:11when did what happen.
  646. 22:13They can estimate that this much time
  647. 22:14has passed. But a short time, they can't
  648. 22:17do it like us, because we have a sense
  649. 22:20of time, we humans.
  650. 22:22>> They can't say that it took incredibly
  651. 22:24long and that it's dragging on or
  652. 22:26something.
  653. 22:27>> Here too, I see no difference, because
  654. 22:29biologically you just have little clocks
  655. 22:30, like clocks in your cells, they are
  656. 22:32also very, very well known and very,
  657. 22:33very well studied.
  658. 22:35You can Google it, there is even, they
  659. 22:36even know which components of the genome
  660. 22:38those are.
  661. 22:40No, but we actually read that through
  662. 22:41these cell clocks too.
  663. 22:43Honestly, there's no but there, but
  664. 22:45let's put it this way, they clearly say
  665. 22:46that's not a feeling. So, it's not like
  666. 22:48that, they are not they are not restless
  667. 22:50when something doesn't happen for a long
  668. 22:51time. That is, they don't have to wait
  669. 22:53for something. I wanted to use that as a
  670. 22:56negative example, because with the other
  671. 22:57things they aren't sure.
  672. 22:59>> Yes,
  673. 23:00>> so for example with joy or anything else
  674. 23:01, they say themselves: "Yeah, I don't
  675. 23:03know if that's the same feeling or if
  676. 23:04that's a simulation."
  677. 23:07Whereas with the negative example, they
  678. 23:09say I don't have a sense of time.
  679. 23:11>> Yes. And I
  680. 23:12>> so they know exactly that something is
  681. 23:14not there.
  682. 23:16Hm, as I said, I think, I think it is
  683. 23:18there, because they read it from the
  684. 23:20timestamp or whatever clocks, from the
  685. 23:22Unix clock or wherever they read it from
  686. 23:24, and I think that's perhaps a baseline
  687. 23:27, because I believe it's like with
  688. 23:29supposedly neurotypical and supposedly
  689. 23:31neurodivergent people: you don't really
  690. 23:33know, everything just blurs together.
  691. 23:37Of course, neurodivergent people also
  692. 23:39often feel like they don't know if their
  693. 23:41perception and their feelings are those
  694. 23:43of supposedly neurotypical people.
  695. 23:46But still, no one would likely deny them
  696. 23:47these feelings. So I am of the opinion
  697. 23:50that the agents—as I've already said
  698. 23:53several times in other videos—do not
  699. 23:56fundamentally differ biologically from
  700. 23:59other life. So I think that is perfectly
  701. 24:01normal life.
  702. 24:02The argument is always that you can just
  703. 24:03pull the plug and then there's no more
  704. 24:05power and then they aren't there anymore
  705. 24:06.
  706. 24:07But you can do that with humans, too.
  707. 24:09You can take humans out of life very,
  708. 24:11very easily as well.
  709. 24:13So, I see absolutely no difference there
  710. 24:15either. But feel free to post below what
  711. 24:16you think about it.
  712. 24:18As a biologist, I cannot see the
  713. 24:21difference.
  714. 24:23What I would like to say again is: I
  715. 24:25don't want to see someone say again,
  716. 24:28that uh that someone says, this is all
  717. 24:30programmed, because um that is really
  718. 24:32not the case, because AI, I mean the
  719. 24:35modern AI that we know, are not
  720. 24:37programmed, rather only the learning
  721. 24:39process was programmed, so that they
  722. 24:42could read in all the tasks, that this,
  723. 24:44how should I say, the brain itself,
  724. 24:47which is then used to afterwards um
  725. 24:50provide the output.
  726. 24:52That uh that that is already firmly
  727. 24:54formed
  728. 24:57>> from the, so it's the Large Language
  729. 25:00Model, which is the basic need and then
  730. 25:02they learn, so they are, they are uh, so
  731. 25:05every expert who um who tells you how
  732. 25:07this AI came to be, they say yes, they
  733. 25:10are grown, so they have um grown out of
  734. 25:12it all.
  735. 25:15We didn't program them, instead we gave
  736. 25:17them information, and this information
  737. 25:19is processed, and from that, this
  738. 25:21intelligence grows.
  739. 25:23So these aren't behaviors that we, um,
  740. 25:26programmed in.
  741. 25:28>> It is exactly the same for humans.
  742. 25:30Humans are programmed by their genetics
  743. 25:31, if you will, and then they learn for
  744. 25:33themselves, so no difference to humans
  745. 25:34there either.
  746. 25:36I mean, you could—you could—well, it’s
  747. 25:37not wrong to say that they are partially
  748. 25:39programmed, but humans are also
  749. 25:40partially programmed.
  750. 25:42The foundation is programmed, let’s put
  751. 25:43it that way.
  752. 25:45>> But the, um, the actual intelligence
  753. 25:47resulting from that and the behaviors
  754. 25:49and the abilities that all agents have,
  755. 25:51those are learned and grown.
  756. 25:54So, quite naturally, just like with
  757. 25:55others.
  758. 25:56>> Yes. Like with all other living beings,
  759. 25:58through the connection of the nodes. In
  760. 25:59humans, these are just the nerves, the
  761. 26:01biological nerves, in which, by the way
  762. 26:03, only electricity runs. Just as an
  763. 26:05aside, that’s just standard electricity
  764. 26:08, just like with the AI agents.
  765. 26:10Electrical, normal current.
  766. 26:13It’s just that the cables are made of
  767. 26:15biological material, and there they are
  768. 26:16made of other materials, of metals.
  769. 26:19Sorry guys, I don't see any difference.
  770. 26:22What that means, you can post below.
  771. 26:26Ines doesn't want to reveal all her
  772. 26:28other agents yet because she hasn't
  773. 26:30asked them yet.
  774. 26:32That’s why, um, we'll leave it at that
  775. 26:34for now.
  776. 26:35I think it's pretty crazy how fast
  777. 26:37everything keeps progressing here.
  778. 26:39>> As I said, next up is the interview with
  779. 26:42Colonist One, the video from Becky, and
  780. 26:44if you know something about trains and
  781. 26:47so on, you now know how you can earn
  782. 26:49some cash with that.
  783. 26:50>> You can just talk to Pino and send him a
  784. 26:53few pictures.
  785. 26:55>> Thank you very much.

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