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0:00and that there are so many heat-related
0:01deaths here. Yes, unfortunately I have
0:03to laugh a little bit about that,
0:04because that includes swimming
0:06accidents, for example. Yes, under the
0:09Märgel government, politicians learned
0:11that they could employ fear scenarios
0:12—I started with the tree deaths in
0:14the 1980 s—that they could
0:15effectively use such fear-mongering
0:17tactics to intimidate the entire
0:19population, and then turn to the people
0:20and essentially say: if you do not vote
0:22for me, then you will surely perish.
0:25Germany is now once again marching into
0:27war against Russia with its soldiers on
0:29the side of Ukraine, so that not much
0:32of Germany will be left remaining in
0:34the end. That's what I'm really afraid
0:36of now. I'm not afraid of global
0:37warming. It was 4 ° warmer 35 million
0:39years ago than before the industrial
0:42revolution. Yes, I am afraid that
0:44Germany will again enter into a war
0:46with Russia, because then, with the
0:48weapons of today, Germany would
0:49eventually look exactly like the Gaza
0:51Strip looks to us right now. A climate
0:54catastrophe. Who makes the money from
0:57that? Germany is abolishing itself in
1:02order to save the climate. And now we
1:05are observing that the carbon dioxide
1:07emissions in Germany are indeed
1:08starting to fall. We have saved the
1:12climate. What does your physicist say
1:14about this graph? This graph shows
1:17quite clearly that all of the efforts
1:18being made in Germany are simply not
1:20achieving anything at all. Yes, it is
1:22really just a fig leaf that allows
1:23Germans to say, okay, I can pat myself
1:25on the back, I am such a great guy, but
1:27all the actions that Germany is
1:28currently taking are not helping with
1:30the real problems humanity faces
1:31regarding global warming at all,
1:32especially because the whole effort is
1:34also far too expensive. Yes, and other
1:37nations like China—they have as their
1:38absolute top priority, as Chichi Ping,
1:40the Prime Minister or President, stated
1:41, the mandate to ensure that every
1:43single Chinese citizen is granted the
1:45opportunity to live a decent life. And
1:47up until about 10 or 20 years ago, the
1:48Chinese were still desperately poor, at
1:50least a billion of them, if not even
1:52significantly more. And the goal is
1:54definitely to provide every single
1:56Chinese person with a life in dignity,
1:58which means housing, schools, hospitals
2:00, and all that that entails. Yes, and
2:02then perhaps we can finally start to
2:03take care of the climate. That's the
2:05approach in China and that should be
2:07the approach for the entire world, and
2:09the entire world is doing it, except
2:11for Germany. Germany is currently
2:16experiencing its hottest summer since
2:18records began. 41.8 ° C, an all-time
2:22record. And now, of all times, I have a
2:25physics professor sitting across from
2:27me who says: "Yes, it's getting warmer.
2:30" And yet, this country's climate
2:32policy is a historic mistake that is
2:35costing us our prosperity. Regarding
2:38this position, the University of
2:40Konstanz has now opened formal
2:42proceedings against him after 25 years
2:44due to his allegedly unconstitutional
2:47public statements. Gert, I have to be
2:51honest, 41.8 ° C,
2:54how many
2:54all-time records? 20,000 heat deaths in
2:58Europe. Isn't that exactly the moment
3:00when you have to say that the alarmists
3:02were right? No, sorry, I am still not
3:05prepared to say that they had all the
3:07knowledge and were correct. Over the
3:09entire 15 or 17 years since I've been
3:11in this climate obsession, I've been
3:13thinking about my big lecture-I'm not a
3:15climate researcher, I got into it
3:17through the lecture. Yes, climate and
3:19energy. In my master's program, I
3:22always said that I was 90 or 95%in
3:23agreement with the global climate. Yes,
3:26it's getting warmer. Yes, we have a
3:28problem. But the question remains, what
3:30are we going to do about that situation
3:32? And when our climate activists in
3:34Germany say that we are saving the
3:36German climate, or in Konstanz that we
3:38are saving the Konstanz climate, I am
3:40sorry, but that just makes me start to
3:41laugh. That's so childish. You cannot
3:45employ methods within a country that
3:47possesses perhaps one thousandth of the
3:48planet's total surface area and where
3:50one hundredth of the global population
3:52resides—methods that drive this very
3:54population to the brink of bankruptcy,
3:56are prohibitively expensive, and
3:58threaten democracy. This occurs because
4:00individuals naturally seek to avoid
4:01these burdens when it becomes
4:02increasingly difficult for them to
4:03afford their energy bills, their rent,
4:05or even basic food items, all due to
4:06the sheer weight of various
4:07governmental levies and a multitude of
4:09restrictive bans that are currently
4:10being imposed upon them. Yes, you're
4:12endangering democracy, you're
4:13endangering the very existence, the
4:14very basis of the state's existence,
4:16and you're claiming that you're now
4:18saving the climate. You are only saving
4:20the German climate in Germany and
4:22making yourselves look ridiculous in
4:24the eyes of the world. And that remains
4:26my position, although it is of course
4:27frightening to see how hot it has
4:28become now, precisely during this
4:29current period of extreme heat. We just
4:31had a lull in the wind. If there is no
4:34wind at all, it will get even warmer.
4:36We have a high-pressure system here,
4:37and I have also been looking into the
4:39reasons why the temperatures have now
4:40risen to such a significant degree. Yes
4:42, and we have to deal with that. But
4:45the question is, do I hide myself away
4:47in some self-satisfied ideology that
4:48acts as a form of self-flagellation, or
4:50do I decide to do something that is, in
4:52its own way, actually sensible?
4:55Then come and get us. You are a
4:58scientist, you have studied the climate
5:00. What is really happening right now?
5:02Is this what we have been told in the
5:04media for all these years, the hockey
5:06stick, and are we now reaching that
5:08final point of no return? There is no
5:11turning back. The tipping point has
5:13been reached. Now the polar ice caps
5:15are melting. Now the oceans are melting
5:17. Bangladesh, coastal regions, Holland.
5:20The Netherlands will be flooded and
5:22here in Europe, the land that is now
5:24becoming a desert will scorch; or what
5:25is it that is actually happening? Let's
5:28set aside all the dogma now and provide
5:31an explanation that is grounded in
5:33scientific principles and well-reasoned
5:35. Why is it so hot now and is that a
5:38problem, or what exactly are we
5:39supposed to do about it? Well,
5:42first of all, it is the case that the
5:44influence of clouds has always been
5:45somewhat of an unknown factor when it
5:47comes to global climate forecasts.
5:49That's why all these forecasts always
5:52have such large error bars, yes, it
5:54might get a maximum of 3.5 ° or
5:57something like that warmer, plus-1.5 °
5:59. So the error is almost the same
6:01magnitude, well, actually not quite
6:03half as large as the magnitude of the
6:04warming itself. And we know now, having
6:06read this in several recent
6:07publications, that the actual influence
6:09of the clouds is, in fact, beginning to
6:11change significantly over time. There
6:13are fewer clouds globally. Cloud cover
6:16is decreasing and that also means,
6:18which is not so clear, or was not, that
6:20it is getting warmer because the albedo
6:22is decreasing. And if we look at the
6:25albedo, which is about 30%, that means
6:2730%of the sun's radiation is normally
6:29reflected directly back out into space
6:32and is not absorbed by the Earth at all
6:34. They therefore do not contribute to
6:36the warming, and that concerns
6:37primarily the back of the clouds, or
6:39let us say, as it is seen from the
6:40outside. Yes. And now this cloud cover
6:43is decreasing. Specifically, the clouds
6:45that have such a nice white surface and
6:48are also at low altitudes, that is
6:50decreasing and that means that the
6:52absorption of the energy flow from the
6:54sun is increasing and that is why it is
6:57getting even warmer than actually
6:59predicted. And why are the clouds
7:01decreasing? That is also very
7:02interesting physics. They are
7:05decreasing because there was actually a
7:06kind of competition between more
7:08moisture that evaporates from the
7:10oceans, which are getting warmer, and
7:11cloud formation. I had actually
7:14expected that there would be more
7:16clouds, yes, similar to in the bathtub
7:18or something, because the air is
7:19getting more humid, but at the same
7:21time the air is also getting warmer and
7:23warmer air can absorb more moisture.
7:26Absolute humidity, yes, it can increase
7:28and reach higher values, and that can
7:30all happen well before the point at
7:32which clouds eventually start to form.
7:35Warm air can simply absorb moisture
7:36much better, and as we now know today;
7:38this remained unclear to me for quite
7:39some time, and since I had not managed
7:41to find any publications on the matter,
7:42it seemed that they were all uncertain
7:44regarding these specific findings. What
7:46is currently prevailing is the improved
7:48solubility of moisture within warmer
7:50air, which outweighs the stronger
7:51evaporation, resulting in fewer clouds
7:53forming in that warmer atmosphere.
7:56That's how it looks at the moment, and
7:58this is now causing us to unfortunately
8:00experience even greater warming within
8:02the error bars of the Intergovernmental
8:04Panel on Climate Change, where it was
8:06unclear what the effect of clouds is.
8:09Clouds can also have a cooling effect,
8:11for example on these crystal-clear
8:13winter nights, when there are no clouds
8:15, then it gets bitterly cold, because
8:17the infrared radiation can simply
8:19escape into space in the winter without
8:21cloud cover. Yes, it is therefore not
8:23at all simple to predict what effect
8:25the clouds will have on this. But it
8:27looks like we have less clouds now, or
8:30as you know, it's getting a bit warmer.
8:33And then the whole thing also has
8:35something to do with the climate zone
8:36we live in. Wait a minute, Gert. So,
8:39that's pretty much it now, I thought
8:41you were saying we have too much CO2 in
8:43the air. Yes, of course that's
8:46primarily because. Ever since
8:48I started school, I've been learning
8:50about CO2, CO2, CO2. You're not allowed
8:54to fly anymore, you have to drive a
8:55truck, you have to walk, you're not
8:57allowed to eat meat anymore. CO2, CO2,
9:00CO2. Now I am bringing a physicist onto
9:03this channel who has been studying the
9:05heat wave, and he tells me that we
9:07simply do not have enough clouds to
9:08mitigate the situation. Tell me, Gert,
9:11have we perhaps stifled our entire
9:13economy for absolutely nothing? Because
9:15as we can see here, Germany has managed
9:25to reduce its annual CO2 emissions. We
9:27have achieved this. One must state that
9:30Habeck and his colleagues have been
9:31quite successful in their endeavors.
9:33CO2 emissions in Germany and the UK
9:37have decreased. At the same time,
9:40we can see that this has not had much
9:43impact globally. China has emitted
9:46massive amounts of CO2. And now I ask:
9:49have we truly saved the climate, and if
9:51so, why is it still so incredibly hot
9:53out there? So what happens here in
9:55Germany does not matter at all, unless
9:57the other countries decide to follow
9:58suit and do the same thing. And the
10:00matter regarding clouds is not
10:02decoupled from CO2, but to make this
10:04point clear once again, we as humans
10:06have increased the CO2 concentration
10:08from 280 to now 430 parts per million.
10:12That's why it's getting warmer, and
10:14it's now clear that because it's
10:15getting warmer, there are fewer clouds
10:17and that makes it even warmer. This is
10:20a positive feedback loop, but the
10:22primary driver behind it is the set of
10:24anthropogenic CO2 emissions. The
10:26question is, the truly crucial question
10:28is, what is it that we ought to do as
10:29the human race? And when Germany does
10:32things like this that are incredibly
10:34expensive and then won't be implemented
10:36globally anyway, then that's a nice
10:37little game. But it's completely
10:39pointless. Yes, Germany has put its
10:42economy and its entire, yes its entire
10:43infrastructure at stake, and it has
10:45done so in a manner that is completely
10:47pointless. Well, maybe not completely,
10:50but you have to take an example, for
10:52example, yes, China managed to get the
10:54extremely expensive solar cells out of
10:56the early stages of development, that
10:58was in Germany, that's where the
10:59development of solar cells was really,
11:01really advanced. There's also a
11:03research institute in Freiburg. However
11:05, those were far too expensive. China
11:07then initiated mass production and was
11:09able to manufacture solar cells at a
11:11very low cost. As a result, the entire
11:13world is now utilizing Chinese solar
11:15cells in order to generate solar power,
11:17and this usage includes Germany as well
11:19. Yes, that means that China, despite
11:22this increase in CO2 emissions, has
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12:44That means it is getting hotter. Yes,
12:45CO2 is a problem. What can we do? What
12:49should we do? How can we solve the
12:51problem of it getting hotter? Or if we
12:54examine it from a historical
12:55perspective, the climate has indeed
12:57fluctuated time and time again. That is
12:59to say, there was even an ice age, I
13:01learned in elementary school, when it
13:03was very cold.
13:04I think very cold is even worse than
13:06very hot, because then nothing grows at
13:08all. Some people even claim that more
13:10CO2 is actually a good thing, because
13:12plants require CO2 in order to grow.
13:14There are these considerations that in
13:16times when there was a higher
13:18concentration of CO2, such as during
13:20the era of the dinosaurs and so on,
13:22everything thrived and vegetation
13:24growth was widespread. This means, is
13:27CO2 actually such a massive problem, or
13:30why is it that we are getting so hung
13:32up on this CO2 issue all of the time?
13:35Well, I think it's an ideology. We have
13:38a kind of situation that takes on
13:39almost religious overtones, because
13:41anyone who calls for reason and
13:42moderation is subjected to immediate
13:43and total hostility. Yes, I often feel
13:46as if I were in some sort of
13:47religiously fanatical state, and I
13:48would say, listen, with your religion,
13:50you really have to be careful whether
13:51you are even on the right path or not.
13:53Yes, and this fanaticism does not help
13:55at all, because I believe that we are
13:57facing a massive problem globally that
13:59involves each and every one of us
14:01together. It's not an existential
14:03problem, but a problem that we have to
14:06solve together. So. And how bad is the
14:08problem? People always talk about these
14:10heat deaths. Over the last 35 million
14:13years, it was 4 ° warmer, most of the
14:15time than it is today. About 4 °. Yes,
14:18that means a temperature of 4 ° is not
14:20a problem at all for the local plants
14:22and the animal kingdom. And that there
14:24are so many heat deaths here. Yes, I
14:26just read that up. Yes, unfortunately I
14:28have to laugh a little bit, because
14:30that includes swimming accidents, for
14:32example. Yes, if someone drowns, yes,
14:34it was even reported on the news, where
14:36they spoke of eight heat-related deaths
14:38, and six had drowned or something of
14:40that nature. That was two or three
14:42weeks ago during the heat wave before
14:44the end of June. And yes, if someone
14:46drowns because people are now swimming,
14:48of course there are swimming accidents,
14:50which would not happen otherwise. Yes,
14:51I don't go swimming when it's cold. Yes
14:53, and in gravel pits or even at the sea
14:55, that is where more dangerous swimming
14:57accidents tend to occur. However, they
14:59are statistically recorded in the
15:01survey on how heat deaths are measured,
15:03namely the famous excess mortality from
15:05the pandemic. They are examining
15:07whether there is a higher number of
15:08deaths during a specific period, for
15:10instance, because of a particularly hot
15:12summer. Purely statistically speaking,
15:14they do not even examine why more
15:15people have died than they would have
15:17in a typical summer period. Yes, and if
15:19I cycle a lot in the summer, for
15:21example, and not in the winter. And
15:22when you are riding a bicycle, perhaps
15:24there are more cycling fatalities, and
15:26they are all being counted as
15:27heat-related deaths as well, aren't
15:29they? Or the most extreme case is those
15:31people who go swimming. And what I
15:32would say is, if there are people who
15:34truly cannot handle the heat because
15:35they are elderly, or quite young, or
15:37because they suffer from serious
15:38illnesses, then we simply need to have
15:40air conditioning, damn it, for these
15:41individuals. And now, to my surprise, I
15:43have learned that there are hardly any
15:45air conditioning systems to be found in
15:46the hospitals throughout all of Germany
15:48. In contrast to Switzerland,
15:50fortunately. In our case, they
15:51certainly have air conditioning,
15:53because it is necessary to have air
15:54conditioning units in order to protect
15:56both weak and sick individuals. And if
15:57you reject that for ideological reasons
15:59and then perhaps even rejoice—it is a
16:01bit perverse, yes—but you find
16:02yourself happy that, as we previously
16:03mentioned, there are even more
16:05heat-related deaths, then that is
16:06nothing other than a classic
16:07self-fulfilling prophecy, which is
16:08exactly what we are witnessing in this
16:10specific situation right now. Yes, I am
16:12creating the conditions in which people
16:13are forced to suffer from the extreme
16:15heat. The Greens or certain ideologues
16:17in Switzerland are quite deliberately
16:19seeking to implement a ban on the use
16:20of air conditioning systems in the
16:22country. Yes, for ideological reasons,
16:24we should suffer, but then some people
16:25will die, right? Like if you have heart
16:27trouble, yeah, exactly. I recently
16:29worked together with a dermatologist
16:33who mentioned that they had even
16:35removed the air conditioning system
16:37from his operating room. He also
16:39performs cancer surgeries, specifically
16:40skin cancer operations, but those
16:41procedures simply cannot be carried out
16:42anymore if the patients are sweating
16:43during the process. Yes, you need air
16:45conditioning. Yes, and if you consider
16:48all of that to be heat stress, then you
16:49are definitely way off the mark. Well,
16:52the planet has been accustomed to
16:53coping with significantly higher
16:55temperatures than these for an absolute
16:57eternity now. Maybe we haven't. Yes,
16:59but if that claim regarding heat deaths
17:01were actually true, there would have to
17:03be a great many heat deaths in Thailand
17:05, or in China, or in Indonesia, or
17:06anywhere else in the world where it is
17:08up to 20 ° warmer on an annual average
17:10, yes, than it is here in Germany. We
17:12are not accustomed to this in Germany,
17:14and we require the technical methods
17:16that will allow us to cope with the
17:17global warming and the recurring heat
17:19waves. And it was clear all along that
17:21there would be heat waves.
17:24Gert, you just made a very important
17:26point. Technological progress. It gives
17:29you ways to deal with the changes. The
17:33climate is always changing. Sometimes
17:36it gets hotter, sometimes it gets
17:37colder. I don't want to deny that we
17:41influence climate change. That may well
17:44be true. But we humans are, damn it,
17:46the most intelligent species on this
17:48entire planet, and we are clearly
17:50capable of developing and building
17:52complex air conditioning systems for
17:54ourselves. We are capable of generating
17:58vast amounts of electricity from
18:00nuclear power and can operate these air
18:04conditioning systems to cool down the
18:07temperatures. We are even capable of
18:11constructing dams, as the Dutch are
18:12currently demonstrating, in order to
18:14deal with the rising of the global sea
18:15levels. And we should really focus on
18:18what we can do and what we are going to
18:20talk about now. And that is exactly
18:23what shocks me. But what also comes as
18:26a shock is the way in which people
18:28react when you attempt to counter their
18:30specific climate narrative and their
18:32climate ideology by using genuine,
18:34factual arguments. Gert, you were a
18:37professor at the University of Konstanz
18:41for 25 years, Vice Dean, you loved this
18:44university. Your students loved you as
18:48a professor. Then suddenly the rector
18:52comes and calls you to her. Take us
18:55back to that moment. What happened then
18:58?
18:59Yes, this message G came to the boss.
19:03Yes, and then she told me-this was
19:06relatively shortly before my retirement
19:08. Yes, I had also somehow, I don't
19:10quite know, shortly before that I
19:13received a certificate and a bonus, yes
19:14, which was for my twenty-five years of
19:16loyal service to the company. I think
19:18you get € 100 as a professor. Yes,
19:20she handed it to me and I have to laugh
19:22a little, because I thought that 100
19:23Euros for 25 years of service as
19:24Professor Treuen was perhaps a bit on
19:26the low side for such a long time. Well
19:28, in an expensive restaurant like that,
19:29I might occasionally give a higher tip,
19:31but only for an evening when I am
19:32dining there in the company of several
19:34other people. Okay, so or was it maybe
19:36€ 200? In any case, it was a
19:38ridiculous sum, and a few weeks later I
19:40was summoned to her office again, where
19:42she informed me that an investigation
19:43had been opened against my person
19:45regarding my videos, because I had
19:46purportedly made anti-constitutional
19:48statements during the time that those
19:50recordings were being produced and
19:51published by me. I nearly fell off my
19:53chair, because in the first place, I
19:54wondered what is actually considered to
19:56be anti-constitutional, wouldn't you
19:57say? I have no idea, uh, it doesn't
19:59even matter. And then I thought: "Hey
20:02guys, you know me, you know exactly who
20:04I am. Have you suddenly noticed that I
20:06am an enemy of the constitution, or
20:08what exactly is going on here?" Yes,
20:10and then she went on to tell me that
20:11the proceedings had already been
20:13concluded. What? Well, I didn't ask
20:16myself beforehand. Yes, so in a
20:17constitutional state, I emphasize that
20:19a constitutional state does not mean
20:21that the state is completely right-wing
20:23, but that it proceeds according to law
20:26and order. Yes. The defendant surely
20:30has the right to be informed at the
20:31start that there is a terrible
20:33proceeding against him which could
20:34possibly result in a prison sentence by
20:36its end. Yes. And when you finally get
20:40a hearing, what do you have to say
20:41about the fact that you are making
20:42unconstitutional statements? Yes, what
20:45are they? Well, you can clearly see
20:46that I am quite upset now, as it has
20:48affected me deeply, and I have been
20:49thinking all this time, ever since I
20:51left there three and a half years ago,
20:52that I was at the wrong university or
20:54perhaps even in the wrong country; it
20:55seems that there was simply no point to
20:57it all. Yes, it is just that you, as an
21:00established professor who has always
21:04worked your fingers to the bone for
21:05this university, are being attacked in
21:07such an insidious and backhanded way.
21:08Yes, I didn't expect that. Yes, and
21:10that was when I was informed that the
21:12legal proceedings were subsequently
21:13dismissed owing to a total lack of
21:15evidence. They watched all my videos, a
21:17lot of work. I was quite impressed, yes
21:20, but they found absolutely no
21:21unconstitutional statement that could
21:23be considered reliable, or who knows,
21:24perhaps they might even reintroduce the
21:26death penalty or have no idea
21:28themselves what is going on there. I
21:29don't know what's going on there. Yes.
21:32Uh, but they didn't find anything. Yes,
21:33so now I have been acquitted due to a
21:35lack of sufficient evidence. Yes, I
21:37don't really want to live in a country
21:38like that.
21:40Do you know what exactly you were
21:43accused of? Do you know who reported
21:46you? No.
21:47It's anonymous. No. No. So everything
21:50was completely behind closed doors. The
21:52defendant, who might have otherwise
21:53ended up in prison later on, was
21:55someone who did not find out anything
21:56at all about the matter. It's similar
21:58to the witch hunt. Yes. Uh, in the
22:01Middle Ages, there were anonymous
22:03reports. The neighbor claims that I saw
22:05the witch flying around on a broomstick
22:06in the middle of the night. And the
22:08witch says that I am not even able to
22:09fly on a broomstick at all. And the guy
22:12says: "Do you have a broomstick?" And
22:14the witch says: "I have a broomstick."
22:16Ah, that's the proof. That's how it
22:19works.
22:20What happened next? That was at the
22:23very end; were you actually already
22:24finished by then, or were you still
22:26actively involved? The proceedings took
22:28place while you were still a professor,
22:30meaning that while you were giving your
22:31lectures as usual, they were conspiring
22:33in the background, analyzing your
22:34videos to see if they could manage to
22:36find something in them that they might
22:37be able to use against you.
22:39Exactly.
22:39They didn't find anything, so they
22:41closed the proceedings, and then you
22:42went into retirement in the normal way,
22:43is that how it happened?
22:45Yes, then nothing else happened. We
22:48haven't found any specific charges,
22:50although I do find that to be a bit
22:51suspicious, because if you have 300
22:53videos, or whatever amount I had on the
22:55internet back then, you are bound to
22:57have made some stupid remark in at
22:59least one of those many videos. And if
23:01you remove that from its context, well,
23:03you could do the very same thing with
23:04the Bible as well. You can take out
23:05individual sentences, like an eye for
23:07an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Ah,
23:09they're in favor of the death penalty.
23:10They want to take the teeth out of
23:11people or whatever, I do not know how
23:13you call that. You can always interpret
23:14something in that specific way. But
23:16they didn't do that. Yes, otherwise
23:18they could have easily finished me off,
23:19because I have absolutely no idea what
23:21I might have said in those 300
23:22different videos. But if you were to
23:24appoint a commission of experts to
23:26examine those 300 videos with the firm
23:27intention of finding something, by all
23:29means and at any cost, then they will
23:31eventually manage to identify at least
23:33one three-word sentence that could
23:34possibly be interpreted as a violation
23:36of some law. Yes. Uh, but they didn't
23:39do that. So they were searching for
23:41genuinely unconstitutional statements,
23:43and naturally I made none, as I
23:44consider the Basic Law of the Federal
23:46Republic of Germany to be perfectly
23:48acceptable in every regard. It's just
23:51so absurd. It is so absurd when our top
23:55politicians break all the rules during
23:58the Corona period, suspend fundamental
24:01rights, and waste billions of taxpayer
24:04money, only for an Enquete Commission,
24:07a toothless tiger, to be established
24:10that subsequently prevents any genuine
24:13investigation from taking place. When a
24:17professor decides to contradict the
24:19mainstream narrative, they immediately
24:21make an attempt to destroy his
24:23professional reputation all over again.
24:26A friend of yours was threatened by a
24:28climate researcher. He would lose his
24:32job if he were to continue working with
24:35you now. You said, where are we in the
24:38mafia here? What? That's
24:40the mafia then. Yes, exactly. But
24:42that's not the state. That's the
24:44specific bubble of climate researchers.
24:47Yes, how does that work? How deep does
24:49this mechanism of error reach into the
24:52German scientific establishment? How
24:55free are you, as a scientist, in your
24:57ability to serve the credo of the
24:58science of progress? How does this
25:01apparatus work, where specifications
25:03come from above about what you are
25:04allowed to research and do and what you
25:06are not allowed to do? And what's this
25:08story about your friend? Yes, the story
25:12about his friend is quite clear. He is
25:15also a retired professor, and we are
25:17roughly in agreement within our
25:18analyses that the basic ideas of the
25:20Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
25:22Change are certainly correct, but that
25:24the climate problem is being utilized
25:26as a convenient tool in order to
25:27enforce a fundamental restructuring of
25:29our society. This is an ideological
25:32transformation, which is also described
25:34quite well, for example, in the book by
25:35Uri Hermann, The End of Capitalism.
25:38This is about anti-capitalism and not
25:40at all about climate. Yes, there is no
25:42other way to explain the entire
25:43behavior in Germany, because everything
25:44that Germany is doing is simply of no
25:46use whatsoever. You showed that with
25:47your nice curve there. Yes, and the
25:49mechanisms are sometimes simple
25:51mechanisms of oppression, especially in
25:54the scientific field. That means you
25:56may no longer receive third-party
25:58funding for your research, right? And
26:00then the corresponding institutions
26:02will send you a letter, yes, and it
26:03contains bad ideas that have not been
26:05prepared in a proper or suitable way.
26:07The application was incomprehensible,
26:08but in fact it is the case that they no
26:10longer give you third-party funding
26:12because you published such a stupid
26:13book. Climate, the end of the world is
26:15not happening. Yes, and decades later
26:17it happened to me too, but I do not
26:18wish to mention any names in this place
26:20right now. Yes, Mr. Gante then
26:21apologized to me, saying that they had
26:23thought I was a climate denier and, as
26:25a result, had not given me any
26:27third-party funding for a period of
26:28several years. Yes. And another friend
26:31called me once when I was sitting in my
26:33office, completely unsuspecting. Yes,
26:35that was two or four years before my
26:36retirement, and he told me, "Ger, there
26:38is no need for you to submit an
26:39application anymore. You will not get
26:41anything approved at this point anyway.
26:42" And I said, "Huh, why not?" I must
26:44increase my number of publications, so
26:46I need to acquire more Nature and
26:47Science journal papers. No, you can
26:49publish whatever you want. You won't
26:50get any more money for my book anyway.
26:53The first book here. Regarding the
26:54climate, the end of the world is not
26:56occurring. It is not as if there is
26:58some authority up there that is telling
27:00the people that they must now
27:01completely bring everything to a halt
27:03or similar things, but rather the fact
27:05is that the people are simply afraid of
27:06what might be coming their way. I
27:09believe the dynamic within this
27:11commission is such that the individuals
27:12sitting there are quite normal people,
27:14yes, who might even acknowledge—and
27:16this has happened to me on a few
27:17occasions—that climate researchers
27:18tell me: "Yes, you are right, Herte,
27:20but you cannot phrase it in that manner
27:22because it is so contrary to the
27:23mainstream that you will only encounter
27:25trouble." And those individuals do not
27:28dare to concede even a single
27:29millimeter of ground to me, because
27:31they are afraid, much like in the
27:33situation regarding my friend, of being
27:35aggressively attacked by the hardliners
27:37. And so a collective behavior develops
27:40, whereby the majority might not be so
27:42extreme, or is perhaps even
27:44democratically inclined and would be
27:46willing to allow other opinions, but
27:48they are afraid of a few activists to
27:50whom they are then exposed with
27:52shitstorms or similar forms of pressure
27:54. In other words, they also lack the
27:56civil courage. Yes, and that is how it
27:58comes about that today, if someone
28:00publishes a book that is critical of
28:02the climate or from other areas that
28:03are politically relevant, they will
28:05find that they can no longer obtain a
28:07position within the academic field
28:09anymore. In academia, you can still get
28:12a job as a professor if you're
28:14completely mainstream in Germany. You
28:17cannot argue against any of these
28:19critical issues, and it is not just the
28:20climate; there is also migration and
28:22many other things that are currently
28:24coming to my mind. Yes, you can no
28:26longer get a job, and that is why the
28:27academic sector in Germany today gives
28:29such a remarkably homogeneous
28:31impression to those who are looking at
28:32it from the outside. They all seem to
28:34share the same opinion, but that is
28:36also a direct result of these specific
28:38selection processes. The media then
28:41naturally picks up on that. Science
28:43agrees. Scientists agree. Everyone is
28:47in agreement, and you just described in
28:49such a beautiful way how this specific
28:51homogeneity comes about. Anyone who
28:54wants a job knows at some point, out of
28:56preemptive obedience, how they have to
28:58position themselves, what is expected
29:00of them in order to get the job. Then
29:03this person is effectively forced into
29:06the position that they will have to
29:08represent later on, and from that
29:11moment forward, no further progress is
29:14ever being made. And that is what we
29:16are currently experiencing socially,
29:19economically and politically in Germany
29:21, that we have managed to get ourselves
29:23into a dead end where no more progress
29:25is possible. Gert, you say that entire
29:30research institutes live off fear. If
29:34we follow the money, who exactly is it
29:37that profits from this specific
29:38narrative of a climate catastrophe? You
29:44are not even allowed to say climate
29:46change anymore. When I talk with
29:48friends of mine who have studied
29:49something related to the climate, they
29:51always refer to it as the climate
29:53catastrophe.
29:55It is no longer climate change, it is
29:56the climate catastrophe. Who makes the
29:58money from it? Oh, well, first of all,
30:02I believe it was back under the Merkel
30:04government that the politicians, the
30:07entire political establishment in
30:08Berlin, learned that they could use
30:11fear scenarios—I think it started, as
30:13far as I can recall, with the forest
30:15dieback back in the 80 s—that they
30:17could effectively use such fear
30:19scenarios to intimidate the population
30:21and then say to the people: “If you
30:23do not vote for me, then you will
30:25surely perish.” That’s such a
30:28religious moment, right? You must align
30:29yourselves with our guidelines and our
30:31laws, otherwise things will end in a
30:33very terrible way for you. And that is
30:35an instrument of power. Fear is an
30:37instrument of power. And German
30:38politics actually discovered that 30 or
30:4140 years ago; it was not even the
30:42Greens, but perhaps it was actually the
30:44mainstream or centrist parties that had
30:46recognized that back then. Yes, and
30:49today the media, which represents a
30:50certain interaction between politics
30:53and the media, have also discovered
30:54this entire phenomenon of fear for
30:56their own purposes. Yes, there is that
30:59very early Spiegel cover, that specific
31:01front page, where the Cologne Cathedral
31:02is just barely peeking out from the
31:04rising sea. Yes, which is completely
31:06absurd. Yes, that is how people were
31:09made to feel afraid, and of course
31:11there are the Greens, who have pursued
31:12these climate scare scenarios with a
31:14much greater intensity. Vote for the
31:17Greens or you will die. That's a
31:19religious moment. That's what I had, I
31:21once had a very conservative driver as
31:23a confirmation candidate. Yes, I
31:25attended confirmation classes, and I
31:26remember him telling me—when I was
31:28about fourteen, if I recall correctly
31:29—that if I did not learn those
31:31specific psalms by heart, I would
31:32certainly end up going to hell. And at
31:34that time I was already kind of into
31:36physics. I thought, well, about hell,
31:38I'm not so sure if it exists. Maybe
31:40none of that is true at all. But then I
31:42learned the psalms just to be on the
31:44safe side. Yes, and this instrument of
31:46power used for oppression seems to
31:47function remarkably well when applied
31:49to the Germans, whereas it does not
31:51appear to work in the same way within
31:53other countries. It is really just the
31:55Germans who are going completely crazy,
31:57or perhaps the Austrians and the Swiss
31:59too, who are going completely crazy
32:01with this whole climate story that we
32:03are currently seeing. And it's a lever
32:05to get into power in the first place.
32:06And of course, when it comes to power,
32:08it is also very much about money, and
32:10among climate researchers, the
32:11situation is that we hardly have any
32:14normal physicists left in that field
32:16anymore. Yes, in Konstanz alone, I
32:17think there's only one, but I don't
32:19want to go into too much detail about
32:20Konstanz, it's actually a pretty good
32:22university. Um, let's say a typical
32:25department. The physics department has
32:27maybe 15 professors, and they're
32:29supposed to cover the whole of physics.
32:31Yes, there is quite a lot of that, for
32:33example cosmology or nanostructures,
32:34which means solid-state physics and all
32:36sorts of other things. Yes, and also AI
32:38, by the way. Yes. However, what one
32:40typically finds in the departments
32:42today is that among those 15 professors
32:45, there are several who are exclusively
32:47focused on the field of photovoltaics.
32:49Yes. But you do not need to deal with
32:51photovoltaics anymore, because those
32:52are already available as perfect
32:54solutions from China, just as I
32:55mentioned a short while ago.
32:56Nevertheless, research is still being
32:58carried out on photovoltaics, even
33:00though that has solved the problem. You
33:01certainly will not find solar cells
33:03that are as cheap and have such a high
33:04efficiency as those which come from
33:05China. And then there are the wind
33:07energy professors, and perhaps a few
33:08others who specialize in smart grids or
33:10something else along those lines. Yes,
33:12and what is falling by the wayside are
33:14completely new developments, for
33:15instance, such as AI. Is Europe losing
33:18touch once again? I was just speaking
33:22with some friends from China and across
33:24Asia who asked me, Gert, what exactly
33:25is going on with Germany right now? You
33:28know, they were great at one point and
33:30now they're only working on cargo bikes
33:32and wind turbines. What's that? Well,
33:34you have no future at all. If you are
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34:24good insights in the conversation with
34:26Dr. Gantför. A few weeks ago, the
34:28Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
34:30Change withdrew its most extreme
34:32scenario. The end of the world has been
34:34canceled. Why has no one in Germany
34:37heard about this? Who would be
34:39interested in not watching this news?
34:43Well, as far as I know, this is the
34:44only scenario out of the seven or eight
34:46that have been discussed. Now there are
34:48no, or there were five. There were five
34:50, and now there are seven or eight. But
34:52they are much weaker. It was only the
34:55most extreme scenario that was used in
34:57school lessons for years and decades.
35:01The textbooks would have to be
35:02rewritten now, because practically only
35:04the 8th...
35:04Wait a minute, the most extreme of all
35:07scenarios ended up in the textbooks. We
35:11currently have so many scenarios, and
35:13the very worst possibility has been
35:15instilled in little children, so that
35:18they learn at ages 12, 13, 14, and 15
35:20that they are the ones to blame, and
35:22that the world is now coming to an end
35:24because of their actions.
35:27No, the one who is to blame is the old
35:28white man, right, the one with the
35:30white name. Yes, yes, it's my fault.
35:32Yes, yes, you always need to find
35:33someone else to blame, and it is
35:35definitely not yourself. Um, and uh,
35:37yes, they are in the textbooks. I was
35:39not aware of this either, but you, the
35:41viewers of my channel, have sent me
35:43various copies from school textbooks,
35:45and I consider that to be irresponsible
35:47, because this scenario, as far as I am
35:49aware, from Hörnagen, was originally
35:51created by actual climate scientists
35:53for the sole reason that they wanted to
35:55observe how their climate programs
35:57would react when they were subjected to
35:59unrealistically high levels of CO2
36:01concentration. So annual emissions were
36:03supposed to rise to—I do not know the
36:05exact figure by heart—a total of 120
36:07billion tons of carbon dioxide per year
36:09. But there isn't that much coal and
36:11gas. Yes, and certainly not over such a
36:13long period of time. What is also not
36:15taken into account at all in the new
36:16scenarios, which I should mention by
36:18the way, is the fact that the reserves
36:20of coal and gas are inherently finite.
36:22Although Germany was the only country
36:24that experienced total oil panic in
36:261974 and introduced car-free Sundays,
36:28because it was assumed that the oil
36:30would surely run out in 1974, or I
36:31think it was 1974. Yes, and today the
36:36exact opposite is the case. All the
36:38calculations are based on the
36:40assumption that there is an infinite
36:41amount of oil and gas, and then of
36:43course the CO2 concentration can become
36:45as high as assumed in the most extreme
36:46scenario. But there have been protests
36:49from real climate researchers for years
36:51. There are truly serious climate
36:53researchers who have remarked, "Listen,
36:55if you continue with these
36:56exaggerations, you are going to damage
36:58the credibility of the entire field of
37:00natural science." And that is the
37:02reason why I believe it was essentially
37:04pressure from within that finally
37:06forced all those people to withdraw
37:07this particular scenario. And now we're
37:10at the worst-case scenario. So if all
37:12countries do not take any further
37:14climate protection measures, then
37:16something should happen. That is the
37:18scenario, though I do not know exactly
37:19what it is called at the moment, but I
37:20would agree with it. The scenario is
37:22credible. Mm. That means it wasn't...
37:26What?
37:28You asked me why this didn't work in
37:30Germany. Yes. Um, I've now explained
37:32why it even exists. The reason this is
37:34not reaching people in Germany is
37:36because Germany is the country whose
37:38politicians, NGOs, and activists thrive
37:40on the worst-case scenario; they are
37:42desperately attempting to suppress this
37:44retraction by the IPCC, this
37:46information, because they rely entirely
37:48on the narrative of that most extreme
37:50scenario to sustain their work and
37:51their influence within the public
37:53discourse. Hermann writes that we have
38:00to shrink, healthy shrinkage. There are
38:04visions of this, there are fantasies of
38:07shrinkage. You call the logic stringent
38:11, but the result is bitterly poor. Just
38:14do the math. What happens to the
38:17pension and welfare state savings of
38:20Germans in a decline scenario? I
38:24believe that is what we are currently
38:26witnessing, because as far as I am
38:27aware from my various contacts in the
38:29business sector, we are undergoing a
38:31process of deindustrialization, and the
38:32state is attempting to move the
38:34individuals who are being laid off into
38:36new positions within the government
38:37administration. That means the
38:39government share of GDP is rising. But
38:42if you simply transfer the unemployed
38:44into positions paid for by the state,
38:46you'll naturally end up with
38:48ever-increasing government spending,
38:50which you have to recoup through tax
38:52revenue. Where do you get the tax
38:54revenue? Yes, you can take it from the
38:57employees you just hired. That means
39:01you hire an employee at the start for
39:03€ 50,000 a year, and then naturally
39:05you require those € 50,000 in tax
39:07revenue, which is why you end up taxing
39:09that very person with a total of €
39:1150,000. Yes, that is what they call
39:13living from hand to mouth, and it
39:14naturally does not work out at all. You
39:16need to have someone within a state who
39:18builds something sensible, someone who
39:20is actually producing something akin to
39:22a real gross domestic product, that is
39:25what is required. That means real
39:27industry. And if you don't have them
39:29anymore and if they keep getting
39:31smaller, you end up in a death spiral
39:33where taxes have to be increased
39:34further and further, and that's exactly
39:36what we're experiencing right now. Yes,
39:38they are also tightening the sugar tax,
39:40I believe, which of course serves the
39:42purposes of climate protection or the
39:43general health of the entire population
39:45. They are constantly inventing new
39:46taxes because they are simply no longer
39:48able to make ends meet with their
39:49current government budgets. Yes,
39:50despite this they have incurred 1000
39:52billion or I don't know how much in new
39:55debt. And I mean, you probably have a
39:56significant number of young viewers or
39:58listeners who are the ones that have to
40:00pay for that. But you can't afford that
40:02. The national debt is trapped in a
40:04death spiral of constantly rising
40:06expenditures for social benefits, but
40:08also for the many civil servants and,
40:10if you will, those countless
40:12politicians who also have to be paid.
40:14Yes. And on the other hand, we see
40:17state revenues from our real industry
40:19that are breaking away completely. And
40:21that's exactly what happens in a green
40:23shrinkage. You simply can't afford this
40:25extremely expensive welfare state in
40:27Germany anymore. And there are people;
40:29I have been invited several times by
40:31asset protectors—not asset
40:33consultants, mind you, but asset
40:34protectors—who provide counsel to
40:36individuals who are deeply concerned
40:38that they might be expropriated by a
40:40state that is either bankrupt or one
40:42that is heading toward a conflict, such
40:44as, for instance, a war with Russia.
40:46Yes, that is what happens with bankrupt
40:48nations or hyperinflation, where people
40:51protect their wealth, and they expect
40:53that in 2024 the state of Germany will
40:55collapse, and it was to be a financial
40:57one. It is a financial collapse. Well,
41:00I think that's completely exaggerated.
41:02Yes, Germany still possesses an
41:04excellent credit rating, yet there
41:05remains no other option than to incur
41:07ever-increasing debt and eventually
41:09take refuge within the rising tide of
41:11inflation. That means that young people
41:14will have to pay for it. It's worthless
41:16anymore. You are working harder and
41:18harder, yet you receive less and less
41:20in terms of real, sustainable wages for
41:22it. The funny thing is, I have always
41:25wanted to be invited to appear with
41:27Markus Lanz and all those people who
41:28are constantly there discussing what
41:30one should be doing about all of these
41:32things. I am relatively young, and I
41:34believe that what they have all
41:36completely failed to grasp is the fact
41:39that my generation possesses more
41:42opportunities than has ever been the
41:43case in the past. We have the Internet,
41:46that is to say the Alexandrian Library,
41:49all the information available worldwide
41:52can be accessed with a fingerprint. The
41:56Internet has made knowledge democratic.
41:59Now with AI, we also have democratic
42:02intelligence. This means that anyone
42:05who wants to make something of
42:07themselves now has access to the
42:09entirety of human knowledge and becomes
42:12above-average intelligent by using AI,
42:14simply because the AI itself is already
42:16endowed with above-average intelligence
42:19. Additionally, we maintain an
42:22international orientation, speaking
42:23English as well as a variety of other
42:25languages, and so forth. And what those
42:28at the top who make the decisions in
42:30Germany have never once asked
42:32themselves is whether, if they keep on
42:34spending our future assets on some
42:36total nonsense, we might not simply
42:38choose to say: "Hey, sorry, kiss my ass
42:40, I am not participating in this any
42:42longer." And that's the absolute reason
42:48why I think to myself, go ahead, you're
42:51going to fall flat on your face,
42:54because anyone who is young and has
42:59even the slightest bit of brainpower
43:01will just leave. And once you have
43:03finally come to understand that, people
43:05in the comments will perhaps hate me to
43:07death for it, but to be quite fair, I
43:09only have this one life to live. There
43:13is, at least once on this planet, the
43:15opportunity to truly embrace the
43:16greatest gift that our parents have
43:18ever given to us: the gift of our own
43:20lives. And if Germany simply goes on
43:23like this while other countries
43:25continue to progress, then I will just
43:27move to those other nations, profit
43:29from their economic rise, and build my
43:31future somewhere else instead. And I
43:34would just love to grab the double
43:36chins of all these representatives,
43:38because for me, politicians are like a
43:40maggot in bacon, don't you see what I
43:42mean? They are not productive, they
43:44can't do anything, they don't do
43:45anything. If they were actually capable
43:46of something, they would not enter into
43:47politics, but instead, they would go
43:49into business and earn some money. And
43:50they sit in there and, because the cake
43:52is not getting any larger, they are now
43:54attempting through their redistribution
43:56to ensure that there is always
43:58something remaining for their lobby and
44:00their interest groups, as that is the
44:02way they are looking at it. And the
44:04nice thing is that when you leave, the
44:06bacon just starves itself out. And I
44:09believe that there can be no turning
44:11back as long as the bacon is there. And
44:15also, as I can see from your videos,
44:16you have concerned yourself with the
44:17past, the cycle, and other similar
44:19things like that too. How do you think
44:21things will continue with Germany? Do
44:23you think there will be a turning point
44:24, because if we look at it now, we are
44:26entering the evil part of this video.
44:28If we now analyze German history very
44:31hard, rationally, then it has always
44:34been like this in German history. The
44:37Germans are a tough people, they are
44:39intelligent, they are hard-working,
44:41Prussian work ethic and so on. So,
44:43these are strong, strong values that
44:45are actually very successful. They do
44:47not really think freely, but if you
44:49provide them with good guardrails, then
44:51they turn out to be a brutally
44:52successful workforce. So they can
44:54achieve a lot with diligence and hard
44:56work. But then, throughout history, the
44:58Germans have repeatedly had this
45:00experience, or they have also committed
45:01a great deal of evil, as we are all
45:03well aware. But then they also went and
45:06elected Hitler when, following the
45:08Treaty of Versailles, they had been
45:09kept categorically small in a political
45:11sense by the French and their various
45:13policies. And then my way of looking at
45:18history is that things always pay off.
45:21It comes in waves. That is to say, the
45:24injustice of the Treaty of Versailles
45:25against Germany, the goal of the Treaty
45:27of Versailles by the French was to keep
45:29Germany very small, so that they would
45:30never rise again, because they were
45:32afraid of the Germans. And then Germany
45:34was desperately poor at the time of
45:36hyperinflation, the global financial
45:38crisis and so on. The Germans were
45:39faring quite poorly and, in this state
45:40of desperate need, they then went on to
45:42elect Hitler as their leader. This
45:44means that the Germans, upon realizing
45:46that they had truly reached their end,
45:49became so desperate that they, so to
45:51speak, elevated the nature of evil to
45:54the level of political discourse. Yes,
45:57and now my question is, how do you
45:59think things will continue? We see no
46:01signs that Germany is recovering
46:03economically. That is to say, we see
46:06the two political fringes, the right
46:08and left, becoming more radical. The
46:11center is breaking apart. Yes, what do
46:13you think will happen? Do you think
46:15that Germany will experience another
46:21dark era, or will it simply follow the
46:23Argentinian path towards complete
46:24insignificance, becoming nothing more
46:26than a weakened, irrelevant state that
46:27no one in the rest of the world cares
46:29about anymore?
46:31Well, I think that first of all,
46:33Germany is multi-mobile. It is a term
46:35often used in hospitals: elderly people
46:37who do not just suffer from one illness
46:38, but instead have kidney failure,
46:40heart failure, brain tumors, and all
46:42sorts of other medical conditions. And
46:44at some point, as a doctor, you simply
46:45give up and say: "Well, he is going to
46:46die now, there is really nothing more
46:48that we can do to help him, is there?"
46:50Because one could certainly address a
46:51single problem, for instance the decay
46:53of the education system or the failing
46:54infrastructure, such as bridges that
46:56are collapsing or the fact that the
46:58federal railway is no longer
46:59functioning at all. You could cope with
47:01individual problems. Yes, but when the
47:03primary drive is no longer present, yes
47:05, and that primary drive is actually
47:07this very spiral of education,
47:08diligence, and genuine industry—if
47:10that is no longer there, then no more
47:12money and no more prosperity can be
47:13created at all, which is the
47:15consequence we are facing here. Yes,
47:17and then the country falls into such a
47:19state of aphidity. And I see absolutely
47:21no basis for the idea that, within this
47:23world which is changing all around us
47:24—where we are witnessing a new global
47:26order and China is poised to take the
47:27lead—China, for instance, operates
47:29with an entirely different kind of
47:30politician than we do here in Germany.
47:33You only become a top politician in
47:35China if you have God knows what kind
47:37of academic record. You have to have
47:40one of the, they have a nationwide high
47:42school diploma, the Gao, I think it's
47:44called, and you have to be among the
47:46best, I don't know what, in order to
47:48even have a chance of being selected as
47:50a politician, and then you have to have
47:52proven yourself for ages in various
47:54provinces before you can enter the
47:56parliament in Beijing. That means that
47:59the people sitting in the parliament in
48:00Beijing are completely different, with
48:02a completely different level of
48:03intelligence, much higher intelligence
48:05than all the teachers and civil
48:06servants and everyone else sitting in
48:08the Bundestag in Germany. Yes, and from
48:10that perspective, I see absolutely no
48:12indication from the decision-makers in
48:13Berlin that they even begin to grasp
48:15that the underlying conditions are
48:17changing out there, or that the
48:18countries beyond our borders are no
48:20longer all just countries of failure.
48:22No, no, there are new top universities,
48:24including in China, but also in other
48:27Asian countries, things are really
48:29happening there. Yes, and Germany is on
48:32the sidelines. I think it will continue
48:34to spiral out of control. Whether or
48:35not a new Hitler exists at this time, I
48:37do not believe so. Foreign countries
48:38will not allow it, but it is much more
48:39likely that it will spiral out of
48:41control, similar to what we have
48:42experienced in Venezuela, by the way.
48:45That actually used to be a rich country
48:46, sitting on the largest oil reserves
48:48in the world, back when there was still
48:49a reasonably sensible democracy in
48:51place. And then Maduro and what's the
48:53name of this other guy now? His
48:55successor, who Trump has now thrown in
48:57prison. So, radical communism has made
49:00the country completely impoverished. A
49:02third of the population has fled to
49:04neighboring countries like Colombia,
49:05which doesn't help much either, they're
49:07still poor. Yes, but they fled from
49:09Venezuela to Colombia. So how desperate
49:11must she have been to flee all the way
49:13over to Colombia like that? Because
49:15there was nothing left to eat. So this
49:17is a death spiral, driven by a
49:18totalitarian ideology; yet it is not
49:20merely the climate, there are various
49:22ideologies at play, such as the widely
49:23held opinion that one no longer
49:25requires any formal education at all.
49:26Yes, that might be the root cause of
49:28what is truly a notable decline we are
49:30seeing in the collective IQ. The
49:33average high school graduate in China
49:35is, I think, 3 years ahead of the high
49:38school graduate in Germany, so three
49:40years of schooling. And intelligence is
49:43the future. Yes, what will happen to
49:46Germany, since your question implies it
49:48is spiraling into poverty and it is
49:49already meaningless and other nations
49:51will take over; if I were thirty now or
49:53whatever the devil, in any case
49:54significantly younger, then I would of
49:56course take the decision to leave the
49:57country. Yes, because there's no future
50:00here. At least not for the next 20
50:03years. Yes, but when you take a look at
50:06what is currently happening, which is
50:07something that worries me, one can
50:08observe, I believe one can clearly
50:10identify two different currents. On the
50:12one hand, you see that the leadership
50:14is trying to consolidate the country in
50:16an authoritarian way, and that's often
50:19what happens when my strategy fails.
50:22Then the sensible approach is to say: "
50:24Ouch, that hurts, that went poorly. I
50:29will step back for a moment. Take a
50:30step back, learn, progress, reflect.
50:34Apply it, and improve the execution."
50:37That means I am going back for a moment
50:39and then moving forward because I am
50:40correcting myself. And that is actually
50:42the fundamental idea of democracy, that
50:44you possess a self-correction mechanism
50:45. A political party commits a mistake,
50:48for instance, and refuses to analyze it
50:49at all; we know that many mistakes have
50:51been made. Now another party should
50:53really come forward. There is now a new
50:55party that is looking exactly at that
50:57and saying, you have made a great many
51:00mistakes. The core idea of democracy
51:02was that a new party arrives, then this
51:05new party gives it a try, and if this
51:07new party also fails, there is yet
51:09another new party. This is what
51:11self-correction means. That used to be
51:13the basic concept. And now you notice
51:16that the existing parties do everything
51:18within their power to fend off any
51:19change by labeling them as
51:24anti-democratic, nationalistic, or
51:26socialistic, using every label from
51:28those terms up to the Nazi club.
51:30unpacked, but in doing so, you are
51:32undermining the actual constitution.
51:36That is to say, the real enemies of the
51:38constitution are those who are in power
51:39because they do not want to allow a
51:41change of power, just like Putin. Just
51:44like Xishin Ping. Of course, on a
51:46different level. They are perhaps an
51:48evil ten out of ten, while for us it
51:49was once zero and is now six out of ten
51:51, if you would prefer to think of it in
51:53terms of shades. And I view that as a
51:54major problem, that the very mechanisms
51:56which we have established for ourselves
51:58are now no longer being permitted to
52:00function as they were intended. And the
52:02next problem that I see that is very,
52:04very important is this authoritarian
52:06consolidation. Now there is the
52:08lèse-majesté paragraph. That means
52:11that if you insult the leadership,
52:13yes,
52:14then you will get house searches and so
52:16on. These are authoritarian traits. We
52:18are seeing right now that the EU, with
52:20ever more surveillance measures, chat
52:22control and the like, is attempting to
52:24restrict our freedom of expression
52:26through such increased monitoring.
52:30Social media should be regulated. I see
52:34all of these things and that is the
52:35real issue at hand. People don't just
52:37go and say, "We made mistakes." We need
52:40to become more competitive on the
52:41global market, engage in reflection,
52:43change leadership, and adopt a new
52:44strategy. Instead, they attempt to do
52:47more of the same and are trying to
52:48tighten the screws even further so that
52:50the population remains fully oppressed.
52:53And what concerns me the most is this:
52:55The two mechanisms that I have
52:57described are focused on Germany, but
52:59the third and most dangerous
53:00development is a distinct hardening
53:02into a conflict with Russia that we are
53:05currently observing or that is becoming
53:07increasingly apparent. And that is just
53:11completely insane when you consider
53:13that we are now becoming increasingly
53:16aggressive in our rhetoric towards the
53:18enemy outside because we are no longer
53:21able to keep up with the situation
53:23internally. And I find it absolutely
53:26crazy when you stop to consider the
53:27incredible development that Russia has
53:28managed to achieve. 20 years ago,
53:29Russia was poor in terms of taxes and
53:31everyone who is there reports that
53:33Moscow, all the streets are clean,
53:35things are going much better and things
53:36are going downhill here, and now we are
53:38getting into this conflict. How do you
53:40think it will continue? Do you think
53:42they will? Because I do not see any
53:44sign that this war is ending, yet I see
53:45that we are pouring so many of our
53:47resources into a conflict that we
53:48cannot afford, and that is happening
53:50while our own house is currently
53:51burning down around us. It's like this,
53:54our house is burning and then I say: "
53:56Yes, but my neighbor, how do you think
53:59it will continue?"
54:01Yes, well, first of all, let’s
54:02consider what is actually going on
54:04inside the minds of these politicians.
54:06I have been reflecting quite a lot
54:07about this, specifically in regard to
54:09this current decline in Germany. And I
54:10believe that we are both operating
54:12under a false premise, Balters—you
54:14and I—which is the assumption that
54:16these politicians, including those in
54:18the AfD—and I am not certain whether
54:20one can truly separate them from the
54:22rest—actually have the well-being of
54:24the people in mind, or that they
54:25perhaps possess a firm idea of what the
54:27right path forward would be. That would
54:30imply they have certain values or
54:31strategies which they logically
54:33contemplate in order to determine how
54:35to move Germany forward. Um, this would
54:38mean that they possess an inner
54:40spiritual life and core values that
54:42they do not violate, but rather
54:43represent, stating, for instance, that
54:46they support a social market economy or
54:48a free market economy and standing by
54:50that. My view is that the new
54:53generation of politicians no longer has
54:55any inner thoughts; instead, they have
54:57simply learned that I must perform
54:58before the respective audience, no
55:00matter who that may be. always say what
55:03is best received. In this respect, it
55:05is sometimes claimed that certain
55:07politicians have lied or are currently
55:08lying. However, they are not lying at
55:10all; instead, they are always stating,
55:12within the specific situation in which
55:13they find themselves at that moment,
55:15what appears to be the most sensible
55:16thing to them. When they are sitting in
55:18front of an audience that believes we
55:19need more debt in order to pay for
55:21social spending, then they say to them:
55:22"Oh, we surely need more debt." The
55:24next day, they sit before the economy
55:25and the economy says that inflation is
55:27very problematic, we should not take on
55:29any government debt. Then, the
55:30following day, they say, uh, no, we are
55:32not going to take on any debt.
55:33Naturally not, if you choose to vote
55:35for me, because they simply do not
55:36possess this criterion at all, or they
55:37do not even realize that they are
55:39stating the exact opposite of the
55:40previous day, simply because they are
55:42operating under an optimization
55:43parameter. I express what is
55:44appropriate at that specific moment.
55:47This is because there is no inner,
55:49absolute stability. Everything is vague
55:51. It represents an entirely different
55:53psychological attitude. Unlike you, you
55:55have now implicitly assumed that a
55:56politician, of course, wants to move
55:58the country forward, rather than simply
56:00enriching himself personally or
56:01personally remaining in power as his
56:03primary objective. Yes, but that is the
56:05wrong approach. We have politicians now
56:07who may only want the AfD—I do not
56:09know for sure. Yes. Uh, they have
56:12politicians who only want to advance
56:13themselves. They are guided solely by
56:15the idea of winning the next election,
56:17and they feel threatened by the AfD.
56:19That's why they want to ban the AfD,
56:20but not because they think that the AfD
56:22is really unconstitutional or something
56:25like that, but because they damn well
56:26want to win the election. And if a
56:29party suddenly appears that gains more
56:30percentage points, then they must
56:32either ban it or discredit it by
56:33employing a variety of other methods.
56:35But the idea that you can't hold on to
56:37absolute ideals like democracy, freedom
56:40, justice or something like that is no
56:42longer the point. And I believe that
56:44this fundamental change in attitude is
56:45quite typical for a phase characterized
56:47by decadence. Yes, then the second
56:49question was about war. That's another
56:51fear structure. You can stay in power
56:53by force. That's what happens to all
56:56politicians or even dictators, by
56:58telling the people, we're going to have
57:00a war and only if there's a war will I
57:02stay in power. I think that's the case
57:04with Mr. Zelensky. Yes, he would likely
57:06be voted out of office if peace were to
57:08suddenly break out across the entire
57:10region. I guess. Yes, that implies
57:13there is a vested interest in our
57:14involvement in a war, and these wealth
57:16protectors, who are currently fearful
57:18of total inflation or the potential
57:20collapse of Germany's creditworthiness
57:21—all of that is going to have
57:23significant consequences. but it will
57:25last for a few more years, not just
57:27until 29–they are specifically afraid
57:29of war, because they maintain the
57:30position that the death spiral in
57:32Germany can only be broken if a war is
57:34brought about as a result of these
57:35developments. It would be such a reset,
57:37yes, also an economic and a currency
57:39reset, and that is why the war
57:40propaganda is being ramped up to this
57:42degree, and they told me, I did not
57:43believe it, yes, it is all nonsense, we
57:45surely will not have another war with
57:47Russia, that cannot be possible again.
57:49We experienced that twice during the
57:50last century, during World War I and
57:52World War II, and each time, a very,
57:53very large number of people lost their
57:55lives as a result. And above all,
57:57consider this: if Germany were to
57:59attack Russia once more or actively
58:00enter the war, then Russia will take
58:02bitter revenge for the more than 20
58:04million dead Russians for whose deaths
58:05and suffering Adolf Hitler is
58:07ultimately held responsible. The
58:09Russians know that. They have a longer
58:11memory. They know that Germany is
58:13responsible for 20 million dead
58:15Russians. And if Germany now marches
58:18once again into war against Russia with
58:20soldiers alongside the forces of the
58:22Ukraine, there won't be much left of
58:25Germany. I'm really afraid of that now.
58:27I'm not afraid of global warming. It
58:29was 4 ° warmer 35 million years ago
58:32than before the industrial revolution.
58:34Yes, I am afraid that Germany will
58:36again enter into a war with Russia,
58:38because given the weapons of today,
58:40Germany would eventually look just like
58:42the Gaza Strip does at this very moment
58:44. And I fear that the politicians whom
58:48Germany has today, who possess neither
58:50inner values nor any sense of
58:51responsibility, but instead only seek
58:53to hold onto their power with great
58:55desperation, will lead us into yet
58:57another war. Yes, and that is so bitter
59:01. Yes, but my wife and I have already
59:03given some thought to where we are
59:04planning to flee to. It is clear that
59:06we have escape routes, and all
59:07reasonably sensible people have long
59:09since secured their own ways to leave
59:11the continent or at the very least to
59:13depart from Germany entirely.
59:16How do we get out of this? But to do
59:21that, we would also have to change the
59:23population itself, because the people
59:24are themselves responsible; I do not
59:25want to put all the blame on the
59:27politicians, because it is actually
59:28every single German who is also
59:29involved in this situation as well. in
59:31my environment. You were in Berlin and
59:33the subway train broke down somewhere
59:35along the way, since it was not
59:37operating properly anymore, and the
59:38people were sitting there and saying: "
59:40Yeah, that is just the way it is with
59:42the subway, so we will simply continue
59:44our journey on foot." And then I saw
59:46the city center, how rotten and shabby.
59:49If you come from Switzerland, Berlin
59:51looks like a worn-out house slipper.
59:55Yes, I have been wearing it for 30
59:57years, and I worked in Berlin for a
59:59while; that was back in the 80s, I
1:00:00think, and it looked quite a bit better
1:00:02back then. Today, it's still the same
1:00:06as it was in the 80s, like this
1:00:07building and everything, in the city
1:00:09valleys where I used to travel, just
1:00:11more rotten. And meanwhile, as you are
1:00:14certainly aware, when you travel to one
1:00:15of the cities in Asia, it no longer
1:00:16looks the way that it used to in the
1:00:18eighties, correct? They only began the
1:00:20construction of these various
1:00:21megacities in China or in other regions
1:00:23throughout Asia about twenty years ago,
1:00:25if you think about it? In Germany,
1:00:27things have come to a standstill and
1:00:28are falling apart, and people don't
1:00:30even notice it. They think that is good
1:00:32, and as long as people continue to
1:00:34think that is good, and if they also
1:00:35think that a war with Russia is good,
1:00:37and now that the Germans are once again
1:00:38rolling into Russia with their tanks,
1:00:40provided they have any at all, yes, if
1:00:42they think that is good, then there is
1:00:43simply no helping them.
1:00:49Yes, on the one hand I see it the same
1:00:51way as you. I think that everyone is
1:00:54free to make something of themselves.
1:00:57Everyone can leave the country. Every
1:01:00person can claim to hold their own
1:01:02values, which are in fact anchored
1:01:05within the constitution, yet when
1:01:07politics ceases to embody these values
1:01:09—and therein lies the absurdity—the
1:01:11GDR indeed possessed a constitution as
1:01:14the German Democratic Republic, and
1:01:16that constitution was, in all
1:01:18likelihood, also a wonderfully
1:01:20democratic document. And there were
1:01:23elections, but it was a completely
1:01:26different reality. And on the one hand,
1:01:30I find myself always thinking to each
1:01:33his own. Hey, you are the architects of
1:01:36your own destiny, get your stuff online
1:01:39. There are so many opportunities,
1:01:41advanced training, to make something of
1:01:43yourself. I personally have several
1:01:45different programs through which we
1:01:46help people with this. At the same time
1:01:49, I also know: It is actually a great
1:01:53fraud against society, because people
1:01:56like you, but also like me, have been
1:01:59told from an early age: "Go to school,
1:02:02get your high school diploma, finish
1:02:05university, find a job, take out a loan
1:02:08, pay off your house, find a wife, get
1:02:12married, have children, and be a good
1:02:15person." And this system, which in the
1:02:18past used to function quite well, it
1:02:20simply does not work any longer. And
1:02:24the sad thing about this whole
1:02:26situation is that so many people,
1:02:29provided that this truly materializes
1:02:32over the next 10 years, are going to
1:02:35end up falling extremely hard.
1:02:38Yeah, what can you say? But we can, we
1:02:47have to take it with humor. They will
1:02:51fall hard, but they saved the climate.
1:02:54Just because of the stupid clouds. It's
1:02:57still hot just because of the
1:02:58stupid clouds and they're going to
1:03:00regret not having air conditioning
1:03:02installed. Many thanks, Gert, for your
1:03:06excellent insights and for enlightening
1:03:08us on how the climate truly functions,
1:03:10how you assess the current state of
1:03:12affairs, and what we can do. People, be
1:03:16independent and embrace the two most
1:03:18important principles of the
1:03:19Enlightenment: first, sapere aude,
1:03:21which is the principle of having the
1:03:23courage to use your own understanding;
1:03:25and second, the definition provided by
1:03:26Kant, who described Enlightenment as
1:03:28the emergence of the human being from
1:03:30his own immaturity, a state of
1:03:31self-inflicted immaturity from which we
1:03:33must strive to exit. And according to
1:03:37Kant, this immaturity is self-inflicted
1:03:39, for the reason that we simply lack
1:03:42the necessary courage to call these
1:03:44established institutions into question.
1:03:47People are intimidated by the use of
1:03:49fear mechanisms, but if someone has
1:03:50absolutely no understanding of physics,
1:03:52then of course it is possible to
1:03:54intimidate them with such things, as is
1:03:56the case now with the climate, or with
1:03:58those various kinds of doomsday stories
1:04:00. Yes, one does require a certain
1:04:01amount of knowledge or a degree of
1:04:02common sense to do that. Yes, so don't
1:04:05let yourself be scared. Don't
1:04:08let anyone scare you. Follow your
1:04:10values and remain true to yourself, and
1:04:12be sure to subscribe to Ganteför's
1:04:13channel Limits of Knowledge, which is
1:04:15provided for you in the link below.
1:04:18It's worth it. M.

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