Diane Downs Father Wes Frederickson Interviewed By Tim King — Transcript
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- 0:00thank you
- 0:01so Wes talk to me about the the things
- 0:04that stand out in your mind when it
- 0:05comes to Diane and things like the
- 0:08gunpowder residue that we were going
- 0:09over this morning
- 0:11I'd really like to start well
- 0:15first win this
- 0:18first I heard somebody say that I knew
- 0:22who did it
- 0:23and they asked me to come
- 0:26they actually had contacted by him I
- 0:29went and met with him
- 0:31and
- 0:32she gave me the first
- 0:36affidavit
- 0:37that Diane didn't treat the children
- 0:41her son-in-law did
- 0:45that was that was a start
- 0:49it's been a long time since then
- 0:54Russia to
- 0:57the have been one absolutely other
- 1:00controlled with it friend Huerta is the
- 1:02uh the Mother-in-law of James Haynes who
- 1:06most people that have paid attention to
- 1:08the story believe he is indeed the
- 1:09person that pulled the trigger that
- 1:11night yes
- 1:12that's right and he died very recently
- 1:14yes
- 1:16yes in June but you have several people
- 1:19that were very close to James Haynes who
- 1:22have told you they do believe he is
- 1:24indeed the one matter of fact
- 1:27Clinton I asked him was his partner
- 1:31and his partner told me
- 1:37let's see
- 1:39but it's it's hard to get anybody to
- 1:41listen
- 1:43at least that people who have the power
- 1:46to do something about it
- 1:47yeah
- 1:49just choose to
- 1:52ignore it
- 1:54better let us know nothing said that
- 1:57they don't have to do anything about it
- 2:00in your mind they knew just what they
- 2:01were going to do before the trial ever
- 2:03started that they were going to have
- 2:05their convictions no questions about it
- 2:07the question about it and the fact that
- 2:09Ann Rule who you know is so well known
- 2:11after writing so many books when she
- 2:14showed up that obviously uh let people
- 2:17know that she was believing the police
- 2:19at that point Andrew yeah
- 2:22I unbelievable police in Eugene anymore
- 2:27that's fine someone came from
- 2:30from some country see I think Diane did
- 2:33when they don't know anything right
- 2:36and you were a retired postmaster you
- 2:39had you had quite a dazzling career with
- 2:41the Postal Service didn't you yeah
- 2:44yeah
- 2:46and you had relocated to Springfield
- 2:48yourself and that yeah I got a promotion
- 2:51to just thinking okay yeah
- 2:55and Diane worked as a postal delivery
- 2:57worker I think many people don't realize
- 2:59that that was yes she's she's working in
- 3:02Eugene
- 3:03and Eugene is a Twin City to Springfield
- 3:07right yeah and it was during that time
- 3:10that she was approached by a man who
- 3:12described himself as a federal
- 3:14investigator
- 3:16named coffin yes right and he asked her
- 3:20to go into a party one night and
- 3:22and observe what what she saw yeah and
- 3:26can you describe what she saw
- 3:29what she did is she went into a room
- 3:32where a drug trade or something she'd
- 3:36been told that you can go every place
- 3:38any place you want but don't go in this
- 3:41area here because there's some limits
- 3:45my my daughter is very strange that was
- 3:48just
- 3:50ified at home
- 3:52but she shouldn't find that she went
- 3:54into the room and
- 3:57there we go but they can't get there
- 4:02and see it
- 4:04because quite a record super manufacture
- 4:09chased around them get up it's not your
- 4:12place
- 4:15Jay
- 4:17and that's where we believe she saw Pat
- 4:20Horton who was a prosecutor for the
- 4:23state of Oregon out of out of Lane
- 4:25County right
- 4:26and this is a prosecutor who
- 4:30after the case was over went to work for
- 4:32the basically the same people he had
- 4:34been convicting or not convicting but
- 4:37yeah that that's an amazing story
- 4:40um with James Haynes you have a number
- 4:42of people that knew him who have who
- 4:43have said they believe that he is the
- 4:45killer yeah
- 4:47so that's friend word to the
- 4:48Mother-in-law that's his partner uh that
- 4:52you just mentioned
- 4:54plate nice and now what happened to him
- 4:58and when did he die how was it it was in
- 5:01a motor motorcycle accident
- 5:03okay
- 5:05out near his his place in
- 5:09your country in Tennessee
- 5:14okay was there anything suspicious about
- 5:17his death that you know of
- 5:20I've been told that he
- 5:23actually he went in the motel to stay in
- 5:28a motel to recuperate I don't have any
- 5:31way to prove it oh he survived the
- 5:32accident
- 5:33it's Advanced action that is a bad shape
- 5:39I've been told that the police say that
- 5:42it felt in the
- 5:44room and broke his neck
- 5:48okay I don't know if that's true too
- 5:52but at any rate he he ceased to exist at
- 5:55that point I was told by the people what
- 6:00James 10 came and
- 6:03didn't matter
- 6:06they both were they both were karate
- 6:08Buddies
- 6:10that's how they met okay and James
- 6:14Haynes had a nickname of animal
- 6:17and he
- 6:18proved it many times right after
- 6:22um after the shooting and everything
- 6:23happened
- 6:24um
- 6:25I understand he was driving a brand new
- 6:27vehicle all of a sudden and that lent
- 6:29it's it's uh or that lent weight to the
- 6:31theory that he had been given a pretty
- 6:33big payment to
- 6:35to commit the act against Diana and your
- 6:37grandchildren I don't know about that
- 6:40okay I think that's something that James
- 6:43and I had run into that he had a some
- 6:46time type of a brand new red car at any
- 6:49rate
- 6:50um after all these years Diane's been
- 6:53convicted in in prison and it obviously
- 6:55hasn't been easy but she has stuck to
- 6:58her uh story this entire time hasn't she
- 7:01she's never done anything to indicate
- 7:04that she was involved in that crime no
- 7:06she hadn't the matter of fact the
- 7:09governor said uh
- 7:11two two different times
- 7:19something I didn't do
- 7:23this is a rotten prison for the
- 7:26it's a big statement yeah
- 7:29yeah it's
- 7:31I was just somewhere around it
- 7:34I think anyone who knows the story uh
- 7:36knows that you've stood by her from from
- 7:38the beginning of this whole thing and
- 7:40you're still standing by her today still
- 7:41hoping
- 7:43yeah
- 7:44I do hope so
- 7:46true it's wrong because there's too many
- 7:49things
- 7:49she the tests that they ran on her
- 7:54ballistic says she had no gunshot
- 7:59wrestler the runner she had no blood
- 8:01sweater on her and the case metal was
- 8:04negative
- 8:06Express all those and we know for a fact
- 8:08that she drove to the hospital in a
- 8:10mighty big hurry she didn't take time
- 8:13along the way to wash off I don't think
- 8:15you can wash off those residents well
- 8:17she was she was actually followed
- 8:19from the site back there by someone
- 8:23I don't remember the name now but uh
- 8:25it's in the record
- 8:27uh
- 8:28as you've made a way to town so that
- 8:31they verified but you came that wrong
- 8:34right
- 8:37and she drove straight to the hospital
- 8:38which is not the act of one who's trying
- 8:41to take life away you don't you don't
- 8:43drive him to the hospital as fast well
- 8:45that's the one that always stood out in
- 8:46my mind and I know you know I've read
- 8:49about the trial I wasn't there but my
- 8:51friend Eric was there and he's gone over
- 8:52it with me in great detail and
- 8:54you know he was shaking his head as a as
- 8:57a young reporter throughout the whole
- 8:58thing he couldn't believe what he was
- 9:00seeing also the lawyer Jagger
- 9:03um seems okay well you just we went over
- 9:06the uh the one court document that was
- 9:09the uh the police officer that ran the
- 9:11forensic test that indicated that she
- 9:13hadn't used a weapon and he didn't um he
- 9:16didn't ask any questions in regard to
- 9:18that did he
- 9:20was that maybe the best opportunity that
- 9:22he had I think he had several
- 9:24opportunities just like that and it just
- 9:28no no further questions right let's talk
- 9:31about Oregon for just a moment I've as a
- 9:33reporter covered many stories about
- 9:35Oregon's legal system that uh that show
- 9:38how flawed it can be and how corrupt it
- 9:40can be
- 9:41but what do you say to the average
- 9:43person who's watching this and they're
- 9:45thinking but this is a court this is a
- 9:48you know
- 9:49it is corrupt isn't it I mean it is I
- 9:52think so
- 9:54people do things for personal gain yeah
- 9:56now that's where the grandchildren fall
- 9:58into this story again with the
- 9:59prosecutor adopting the grandchildren
- 10:01have you ever heard of a story like that
- 10:03no never before
- 10:06if that wasn't a conflict of interest I
- 10:08don't honestly know this is Fred huge
- 10:10yeah
- 10:12then
- 10:14Fred Hughes
- 10:15was a prosecuted
- 10:18the state awarded him for children
- 10:23they were we had people all
- 10:26and several several cities that would
- 10:30have taken them that were family members
- 10:32right
- 10:34we didn't even receive any consideration
- 10:37how about the testimony of uh
- 10:40Danny it is Danny right yeah you didn't
- 10:44uh he didn't test it it didn't have him
- 10:46testify in court
- 10:48in the hospital
- 10:50he asked why that man shot me
- 10:53those are his words
- 10:54by that man shot me
- 10:57completely amazing that that was not
- 11:00allowed in that would have initially
- 11:02wrote down in the hospital records
- 11:05United States and me
- 11:08they have it from him around here too
- 11:12and Jagger didn't use these tools so to
- 11:15speak
- 11:17I think it's intention for us to get out
- 11:19of it as easy as it could
- 11:22and his wife became a judge right after
- 11:24this
- 11:25yeah unfortunately yes
- 11:28and I I advice suspicious
- 11:31right
- 11:32organ has a way of awarding people
- 11:35from a coffin became a judge and
- 11:42David's wife became the judge yep and
- 11:45then Horton went on to no longer be a
- 11:48prosecutor but a representative for the
- 11:50very
- 11:50people he had been yeah
- 11:53well he had
- 11:54I think he had to leave because I think
- 11:57the question was on yeah there was
- 11:59pressure on him over the drugs having
- 12:01disappeared all independent from
- 12:03everything else we're talking about yes
- 12:08what is he practicing today's first you
- 12:10know still is he is he still an attorney
- 12:13I don't know I've kind of lost session I
- 12:16know who he is yeah
- 12:23so how often do you hear from Diane do
- 12:25you are you in in contact fairly
- 12:26regularly I did have
- 12:29a phone working
- 12:33she could call home if she wanted she
- 12:35for some reason she has a blade
- 12:38and been unable to contact us
- 12:42by by phone
- 12:44and it's not it's not money because I
- 12:47have plenty of money to to
- 12:50she says that they have a block I can't
- 12:55you know I've called and they said no
- 12:57it's a box but she says
- 12:59telling me it's locked
- 13:02well she's the one who would know if
- 13:03it's not working because she's
- 13:05so we
- 13:07we write her letters instead yeah
- 13:10he's waiting every every day
- 13:13we hope to hear her we even got a
- 13:17separate telephone we'll try another
- 13:19phone
- 13:21so we had two telephones on the house
- 13:22now so just so you can be sure and get
- 13:25her calls yeah
- 13:27wow well you know as I said earlier I
- 13:30think every parent should be able to
- 13:32relate to this you know their child uh
- 13:34is accused of something where it just
- 13:36doesn't make sense and then put away for
- 13:38so long what would you say to the Oregon
- 13:41governor or attorney general if you
- 13:43could sit down with them right now what
- 13:45would you say to them
- 13:46look at the circumstances and look at
- 13:49the the
- 13:50what the report was from the court not
- 13:55what the judge said about the the
- 13:57investigators found no no
- 14:01let's find no no
- 14:03any any sign of
- 14:06no chase metal no gunshot wrestler no
- 14:10blood sweater yep and I don't mean to
- 14:12sound rude but the car was a mess I mean
- 14:14the headliner of the car was soaked with
- 14:16blood it looked to me from the photos
- 14:17that anybody who would have been
- 14:19anywhere near that shooting would have
- 14:21had plenty of evidence of it and the
- 14:22headliner says that Christy was lying
- 14:25down too because it's
- 14:28bladder went up
- 14:30right well as if she had been sitting
- 14:32behind the seat driver's seat as she
- 14:35said
- 14:35had been shot the the subjected
- 14:39trajectory would have been done with and
- 14:42the irrelevance spray Olive blood free
- 14:44all over the sea and it was not
- 14:48and the prosecution obviously implied
- 14:50that Diane's gunshot injury was
- 14:52self-inflicted it was a fairly Serious
- 14:54injury wasn't it I understand it it
- 14:56broke the bones not one but both both
- 14:59bones not a minor injury the media even
- 15:02refers to it as a minor injury I wonder
- 15:04how those reporters would feel if they
- 15:05had a bullet through their arm they
- 15:07might not refer to it the same way
- 15:11yeah it's really unfortunate now some of
- 15:13the newspaper coverage seemed somewhat
- 15:16Fair of the of the trial does that is
- 15:18that true
- 15:20well did the newspaper the Eugene
- 15:23Register Guard they they covered parts
- 15:25of the story that that uh
- 15:28show that maybe they were trying to be
- 15:30fair do you agree with that no no
- 15:33did they have different writers working
- 15:35on it over the years I imagine oh I
- 15:39I think they perhaps were fairly okay
- 15:41they reported what what they knew but
- 15:45I I didn't mean to say it
- 15:49the writers were doing the best in uh
- 15:53they had to work with but I don't think
- 15:56the courts were friends no I don't think
- 15:58the courts were fair either in looking
- 15:59back at this but but it is the Register
- 16:01Guard where we can go read about certain
- 16:03parts of this case that really make you
- 16:04shake your head yeah
- 16:07and Jagger um
- 16:10the fact that he didn't choose to
- 16:12challenge any of that material that came
- 16:14across now you did get him a few years
- 16:16later to say that 300 and some odd pages
- 16:18of exculpatory evidence
- 16:2063 I think it was
- 16:23that seems like it should bring a trial
- 16:25all by itself a new trial
- 16:28right the judges don't think so it's
- 16:31important no
- 16:33I guess that would rock their boat those
- 16:36people they hadn't one of the things
- 16:38they had in there was that uh an
- 16:41employee at the west side post office
- 16:43says he knows where it's shot
- 16:47person
- 16:49other kids
- 16:54they never followed them right
- 16:57people who are watching this
- 16:59um if they want to uh if if attorneys
- 17:01that are watching this have any great
- 17:03thoughts
- 17:04um can they email you is that okay sure
- 17:06okay we'll put your email on the screen
- 17:08so people can see it there and um
- 17:11I don't know I get the feeling when I
- 17:13read over this
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