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Diane Downs Caught on Tape (7/7/1983) | Robert Knickerbocker's Secret Phone Calls β€” Transcript

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  1. 0:00[Music]
  2. 0:03hello hello
  3. 0:07did you get the letter yeah I got it
  4. 0:10okay I've got one more creepy thing to
  5. 0:14add to it
  6. 0:16brainwashing
  7. 0:19I'm never gonna get my kids back
  8. 0:23and they are keeping my kids and I am a
  9. 0:26terrible person
  10. 0:28[Music]
  11. 0:38[Applause]
  12. 0:39would you turn Steve in for
  13. 0:43arson
  14. 0:45arson on wood Diane
  15. 0:49you burned your trailer
  16. 0:52I don't know that
  17. 0:54okay okay Jesus
  18. 0:58you told me that
  19. 1:00insurance fraud
  20. 1:06okay Texas
  21. 1:08I don't know Diane
  22. 1:10[Music]
  23. 1:19like you had to get rid of the kids
  24. 1:22[Music]
  25. 1:25I don't know Diane I really don't know
  26. 1:31you know your your stories the Articles
  27. 1:35and [Β __Β ] there's some guy in Chandler
  28. 1:38who gets the paper
  29. 1:41the Springfield paper oh yeah
  30. 1:45okay so you know what's going on well
  31. 1:48I've been reading article [Β __Β ] it's
  32. 1:50common knowledge
  33. 1:51[Music]
  34. 1:55well I didn't do it okay your story's
  35. 1:59doing you know I don't know
  36. 2:01[Music]
  37. 2:04it don't sound good Diane it's like I
  38. 2:07told you the other night when I talked
  39. 2:08to you no it sure doesn't sound good at
  40. 2:11all does it
  41. 2:18you turned Steve in for something that
  42. 2:20you you two did that [Β __Β ] together what
  43. 2:22what is what are you doing
  44. 2:25I'm not talking about Greg's trailer I'm
  45. 2:28talking about your trailer
  46. 2:31[Music]
  47. 2:34but you know what I'm talking about
  48. 2:36don't you
  49. 2:39yeah you don't want to fence up to
  50. 2:41nothing Diane you just I don't know what
  51. 2:43is the problem
  52. 2:45the problem is
  53. 2:49well I hope so
  54. 2:53I don't believe you Diane I just don't
  55. 2:56believe you tell me why
  56. 2:59[Applause]
  57. 3:02number one I don't believe you'd stop
  58. 3:05for any [Β __Β ] in the middle of
  59. 3:06the road at 11 o'clock at night at all
  60. 3:09at all with your children if you love
  61. 3:11your children all as much as you say you
  62. 3:14would never do that never
  63. 3:18I just know you too well you'd never do
  64. 3:20that
  65. 3:25and I think that's probably the biggest
  66. 3:27thing
  67. 3:29do
  68. 3:31that I wasn't moving to Oregon didn't
  69. 3:33want to be a daddy I think you just
  70. 3:36decided to get rid of them
  71. 3:39that doesn't hold water because you said
  72. 3:40that's how many times before next and
  73. 3:42you always changed your mind well I
  74. 3:45didn't change my mind the last time it
  75. 3:47always takes you three months oh okay
  76. 3:56besides believe it or not you aren't
  77. 3:58worth murder
  78. 4:00I hope nobody or no reason would be
  79. 4:03worth murder
  80. 4:11well I wish you made some articles from
  81. 4:14your jeans by Mr guard or Cottage Grove
  82. 4:17or The Oregonian Springfield News wants
  83. 4:21to paint and obviously
  84. 4:25well I think that's the one
  85. 4:29you know
  86. 4:30[Music]
  87. 4:42I guess I
  88. 4:45yeah never mind
  89. 4:49they are
  90. 4:51um
  91. 4:52never mind
  92. 4:54[Music]
  93. 4:58I guess I figured that I could talk to
  94. 5:02you about all this
  95. 5:05expose everything
  96. 5:09but I guess I don't know
  97. 5:11[Music]
  98. 5:24Diane
  99. 5:28you can talk but
  100. 5:31you know I read your letter I've
  101. 5:33listened to you talk the last two times
  102. 5:35I just don't know
  103. 5:37if you don't know
  104. 5:42I hope you didn't do it but I'll be
  105. 5:45right we're real honest I hope you
  106. 5:47didn't do it Nick if I had done it would
  107. 5:49there be some evidence
  108. 5:52anybody that does something that
  109. 5:54horrible proves us somehow
  110. 5:58yeah well I guess it'll all come out in
  111. 6:00the Washington Diane I'm hope I hope I'm
  112. 6:03wrong
  113. 6:05I hope you didn't do that and I swear
  114. 6:07with all my heart I hope you didn't do
  115. 6:09that Mickey if I had done that would I
  116. 6:12have left my kids to suffer
  117. 6:14no I said well
  118. 6:16no way you did it you sure didn't do it
  119. 6:18right
  120. 6:22anybody that would do that on purpose
  121. 6:24would make sure that they finish the job
  122. 6:32they're teaching my kids to say things
  123. 6:36about a gun
  124. 6:38and about certain events of that day
  125. 6:42but none of it's true can I conclude it
  126. 6:46they're [Β __Β ] up real bad news and I
  127. 6:49can prove it well then you got nothing
  128. 6:52to worry about I know
  129. 6:55I'm not worried
  130. 6:59the only thing I'm worried about is one
  131. 7:01thing
  132. 7:03back
  133. 7:05[Music]
  134. 7:07look he didn't do it you're getting back
  135. 7:09Nick I'll get their bodies back you know
  136. 7:12what kind of kind of kids I'm gonna get
  137. 7:14back
  138. 7:15you told me they were already in pretty
  139. 7:17bad shape and they just have to heal
  140. 7:19right they aren't physically that bad
  141. 7:22okay
  142. 7:24and it's just the metal strain on my
  143. 7:26magic be hard on anybody to get shot
  144. 7:29especially little kids and just take
  145. 7:31time for that
  146. 7:33I'm not they're doing quite fine
  147. 7:35actually last time I saw Danny
  148. 7:38he is
  149. 7:44not
  150. 7:47hold on
  151. 8:07[Music]
  152. 8:18[Music]
  153. 8:25foreign
  154. 8:55foreign
  155. 9:01[Music]
  156. 9:04[Applause]
  157. 9:08[Music]
  158. 9:21[Music]
  159. 9:27foreign
  160. 9:56foreign
  161. 10:08[Applause]
  162. 10:09[Music]
  163. 10:31foreign
  164. 11:00foreign
  165. 11:12[Music]
  166. 11:32foreign
  167. 11:36[Music]
  168. 11:56[Applause]
  169. 11:59[Music]
  170. 12:02[Applause]
  171. 12:13[Music]
  172. 12:35does your mommy own a gun suggested
  173. 12:38things like that and then they say then
  174. 12:41they leave and then they come back
  175. 12:46we think that she shot you until we find
  176. 12:49out you can't pay her and they leave
  177. 12:52then they come back and of course she
  178. 12:54says I want to see my mom no it's safe
  179. 12:56so that you don't because you see what
  180. 12:57they're doing
  181. 12:59totally conditioning the kids it's
  182. 13:02gotten to respond to Christians afraid
  183. 13:04when my name is mentioned now she's
  184. 13:06afraid because they're teaching Christy
  185. 13:09and dance Danny is now saying my mommy
  186. 13:11ran over to the car
  187. 13:13we're in detail is anything I feel like
  188. 13:16that because he wasn't run over my car
  189. 13:18but they're teaching me to be afraid
  190. 13:22there was a lady that called this
  191. 13:24morning and she said that her little
  192. 13:27girl was raped her little girl her
  193. 13:30daughter no girls
  194. 13:33the little girl went away come on yet
  195. 13:36and told him I have to go back
  196. 13:40[Applause]
  197. 13:41they had been they were moving at some
  198. 13:44two friends of their female friends here
  199. 13:47stay the night
  200. 13:52so she took the little girl to the
  201. 13:55hospital they worked on the little girl
  202. 13:57and they asked a little girl
  203. 14:01my mom
  204. 14:04[Music]
  205. 14:05[Applause]
  206. 14:08well CSU got involved of course it took
  207. 14:12the little girl away
  208. 14:13and this allowed their mother to see the
  209. 14:16little girl and now it's been a year and
  210. 14:19a half and now they get paper quarters
  211. 14:21because she still hasn't seen her
  212. 14:22daughter
  213. 14:29total mind control they had totally
  214. 14:32changed the girl over they will not
  215. 14:35bring charges against the weather
  216. 14:36reports because they know that it won't
  217. 14:39stand up in court the way that they
  218. 14:41positioned but their stealing the kids
  219. 14:43they're possessing the kids and turning
  220. 14:46them against their parents dying those
  221. 14:48kids know what happened and they'll
  222. 14:51they'll always know so they can't change
  223. 14:53anything
  224. 14:55Christy doesn't remember
  225. 14:58she has asked him for six weeks what
  226. 15:00happened
  227. 15:02she doesn't remember enough
  228. 15:05she knows it could be true that's what
  229. 15:08I'm saying I'm never going to get my
  230. 15:09kids back even when this is over
  231. 15:14I really fear that there's anything as
  232. 15:16possible
  233. 15:17don't ever be able to live with me
  234. 15:20because the mention of mommy or seeing
  235. 15:22mommy strikes fear and this has another
  236. 15:26this lady that just called me
  237. 15:29they took their kids away so they had
  238. 15:32like three kids or something like that
  239. 15:33they stole their kids stuff
  240. 15:35and the DA's office and spent 50 kids
  241. 15:38away from her she was trying to be very
  242. 15:41pleased by the gutter address
  243. 15:44another lady said called and said that
  244. 15:47she knew of a lady who doesn't like to
  245. 15:50wear clothes so she doesn't wear clothes
  246. 15:52inside the house she doesn't wear
  247. 15:53clothes
  248. 15:54[Music]
  249. 15:56she wasn't wearing clothes and reported
  250. 15:58her to TFC because she had a
  251. 16:00six-month-old baby but she was
  252. 16:02breastfeeding while they arrested the
  253. 16:03woman threw her in jail took her child
  254. 16:05away from him the trans press charges
  255. 16:21they just
  256. 16:26they only see it the Springfields
  257. 16:29point of view
  258. 16:32I wish you could see the other articles
  259. 16:34there
  260. 16:35[Music]
  261. 16:38the newscasts are different everything
  262. 16:41is I don't know
  263. 16:44different I didn't do this Nick and I
  264. 16:47don't have to tell you that because it
  265. 16:50really shouldn't matter to you one way
  266. 16:52or the other you should I don't know if
  267. 16:55I don't know I get so upset with this
  268. 16:57whole thing I get tired of defending
  269. 16:59myself to people
  270. 17:01I can understand that we had some guy
  271. 17:03call tonight and say you all should get
  272. 17:05the death penalty and now we aren't even
  273. 17:08safe here some coke
  274. 17:11could come and just blow my head off
  275. 17:13because he thinks the judicial system
  276. 17:15isn't going fast enough and I didn't do
  277. 17:17it
  278. 17:18I'm being victimized again and the ones
  279. 17:23that are allowing this or the DA's
  280. 17:25office in Lincoln County Sheriff's
  281. 17:26Department
  282. 17:27CSD and various attorneys
  283. 17:31they all get together and hold hands and
  284. 17:34say don't you dare and let her have
  285. 17:36those kids
  286. 17:37they've admitted in court Christie's
  287. 17:39like I was saying Christy says no my
  288. 17:42mommy didn't shoot me
  289. 17:43and they said don't let Elizabeth down
  290. 17:46see her kids because in time Christie
  291. 17:48will remember that her mommy shot her in
  292. 17:52other words when we're finished
  293. 17:53conditioning her then she'll know she'll
  294. 17:55be able to say it
  295. 17:58and that's why I'm fighting because it
  296. 18:02happens to a lot of people
  297. 18:05[Music]
  298. 18:07and if I don't if I don't say something
  299. 18:10like if I had to get my mouth shut none
  300. 18:12of this would have happened it would
  301. 18:13have blown over but I'm telling the
  302. 18:15people what's going on I'm telling them
  303. 18:17what this the sheriff's department is
  304. 18:19doing
  305. 18:22I'm telling people what the DA's office
  306. 18:24is like ncsd
  307. 18:27and uh
  308. 18:30when this is all over it's gonna be more
  309. 18:33than just getting me free because I can
  310. 18:35get me free real easy
  311. 18:38it's going to be pretty easy to prove I
  312. 18:41just do this
  313. 18:44but it's not just that anymore
  314. 18:50what else is it I gotta stop it from
  315. 18:53happening to somebody else
  316. 18:55[Music]
  317. 18:56what happens the next time somebody's a
  318. 18:59victim okay well you need to win first
  319. 19:02and then go for that approach I'm going
  320. 19:04for both right now
  321. 19:06they work hand in hand if I can
  322. 19:09prove I can't prove myself yet because
  323. 19:12any time that I try to prove myself
  324. 19:14innocent they use it against me I have
  325. 19:16to wait till they bring an indictment
  326. 19:18and then we belong up and
  327. 19:22there are so many things they have said
  328. 19:24Nick we went to court a couple days ago
  329. 19:28and
  330. 19:30it's been worse
  331. 19:33yes it was yesterday I went to court
  332. 19:35yesterday to try and get visiting my
  333. 19:38expect for my kids
  334. 19:40and they said something
  335. 19:43in court and I went home and I made
  336. 19:46notes and I wrote down everything that
  337. 19:49they said that the kids said against me
  338. 19:51I could prove was not right
  339. 19:53I can prove that what the kid said was
  340. 19:57not possible
  341. 19:59but we can't say that now because then
  342. 20:02they find a way to doctor it up
  343. 20:05and make it fit their plan
  344. 20:08there are things about well I can't tell
  345. 20:11you
  346. 20:12but I can prove it but if I do it now it
  347. 20:16doesn't work I have to wait till they
  348. 20:19indict me and they won't they even said
  349. 20:20it in the paper they won't indicted they
  350. 20:23won't won't press charges
  351. 20:26but they won't give me my kids either
  352. 20:28they're going to wait they have no
  353. 20:30physical evidence against me all the
  354. 20:33tests prove I didn't do it the only
  355. 20:34thing they have is the word of my kids
  356. 20:37and my kids say that I didn't do it so
  357. 20:39they have to keep teaching my kids that
  358. 20:42I did it
  359. 20:44and the reason they're doing it is
  360. 20:46simple they lost their their bond
  361. 20:47election I told you that they've run out
  362. 20:50of money they've run out of cops and
  363. 20:52they're looking like a bunch of [Β __Β ]
  364. 20:54which they are
  365. 20:56and I have to clean this case up because
  366. 20:58I've made such a big deal of it
  367. 21:02you're on the front of the front lines
  368. 21:06almost every time I'm in the front page
  369. 21:09and on the news
  370. 21:11the 5 30 6 o'clock and 11 o'clock
  371. 21:16and it's only because I am going to tell
  372. 21:19people what their legal system like is
  373. 21:21in Lane County it's crappy these people
  374. 21:25run this place without any regard for
  375. 21:27the law at all
  376. 21:29there was a guy here there there was a
  377. 21:32girl that was kidnapped and
  378. 21:35don't tell this to anybody because the
  379. 21:38guy doesn't want the case opened again
  380. 21:39because they already tried to hang in
  381. 21:41one this girl got kidnapped and this guy
  382. 21:45overheard Street Talk found out where
  383. 21:47the girl was I couldn't get her out
  384. 21:50because of the circumstances you can
  385. 21:52went to the sheriff's department and
  386. 21:54said please help me get her out
  387. 21:56they said they thought he was a quack
  388. 21:58well the girl ended up dead and the guy
  389. 22:01had gone she got murdered the guy had
  390. 22:03gone to the sheriff's department and
  391. 22:05said our police whoever it was and said
  392. 22:07I have all this evidence I can prove to
  393. 22:09you I know where she's at I know who
  394. 22:11she's being held by etc etc well the
  395. 22:13girl ended up dead and the police looked
  396. 22:15like fools because they didn't listen to
  397. 22:17him so they broke into his house they
  398. 22:19stole his evidence and then they turned
  399. 22:21it around and tried to pin the murder on
  400. 22:23him
  401. 22:25but he didn't do it so they couldn't and
  402. 22:29it all died down it just went away the
  403. 22:32murderer was never found
  404. 22:35another guy somebody that I know that I
  405. 22:39just found out today was shot four years
  406. 22:41ago by a woman and somebody saw this
  407. 22:44woman do it you know what they did to
  408. 22:46her they watched her for a year and let
  409. 22:49her go she was never prosecuted at all
  410. 22:53they pick and choose who they want to
  411. 22:55prosecute who they don't
  412. 22:58there's no discretion that there's just
  413. 23:01they have no respect for the law they
  414. 23:04simply do as they damn well please
  415. 23:07and somebody has to speak up and say
  416. 23:09don't do that anymore you can't keep
  417. 23:11hurting these people there is a 7-Eleven
  418. 23:14clerk that got murdered down here and
  419. 23:16they arrested two boys the two boys that
  420. 23:18reported finding the clerk they arrested
  421. 23:21those two kids about two weeks after it
  422. 23:22happened and said there was overwhelming
  423. 23:25evidence well they let him go three days
  424. 23:28later saying there wasn't enough
  425. 23:30evidence
  426. 23:32but we are sure that those are the kids
  427. 23:35that didn't that type of [Β __Β ] and making
  428. 23:38their lives Miserable Now The Neighbors
  429. 23:39go on TV saying I can't believe that
  430. 23:41kid's still lives in his neighborhood
  431. 23:42I'm afraid for my life you know what
  432. 23:45Nick I don't think they did it you know
  433. 23:47why
  434. 23:48no damn sure I didn't do it and that's
  435. 23:50what they're saying about me
  436. 23:52well then you got no problem
  437. 23:55[Applause]
  438. 23:56you can just let the world go by huh
  439. 24:02people said in the world go by is a lot
  440. 24:05of what's you know is living you know
  441. 24:08you can't
  442. 24:09you better just work on your case not
  443. 24:13try to change Brian
  444. 24:18you're not gonna do it
  445. 24:21I'm just supposed to let them keep doing
  446. 24:23the people what they've been doing
  447. 24:24letting them steal kids out of homes for
  448. 24:27no reason at all just to have the kids
  449. 24:28emotionally deserve for the rest of
  450. 24:31their lives
  451. 24:32okay we'll go for it then [Β __Β ] I can't
  452. 24:34tell you what to do
  453. 24:37it
  454. 24:42I just can't believe that your attitude
  455. 24:44is so bitter today well I read your
  456. 24:47letter today and you know I just
  457. 24:49[Applause]
  458. 24:52but I just don't know anymore you know
  459. 24:55Jesus how did the letter make you better
  460. 24:58I was simply telling you what's been
  461. 24:59happening
  462. 25:01I don't know
  463. 25:04I'm an American tournament Steve and uh
  464. 25:06I had to do that
  465. 25:10Steve was trying to have me thrown in
  466. 25:12jail for murder
  467. 25:15and I couldn't think of any way to get
  468. 25:17him to shut up he was he kept telling
  469. 25:19him yeah she did it I know she did it
  470. 25:21I'm sure she did it I'm absolutely
  471. 25:24positive and the more he said it the
  472. 25:26more they they came at me and they kept
  473. 25:31standing between me and my kids and
  474. 25:33they'd give their dirty looks and
  475. 25:34waiting from the DA's offices are real
  476. 25:36[Β __Β ] and it was all because of Steve
  477. 25:39and they were simply going to
  478. 25:42indict me on circumstantial evidence
  479. 25:45just because Steve hates me Steve hates
  480. 25:47me that much
  481. 25:56and all I did was make sure that what
  482. 26:00was coming out of his mouth was
  483. 26:03[Applause]
  484. 26:04there was no his reputation was shot
  485. 26:09I have since felt a little sorry for
  486. 26:12Steve but not a lot not a lot not at all
  487. 26:15especially since as I said Nick I don't
  488. 26:17know who shot us
  489. 26:20and as I said there are only two people
  490. 26:23that have a motive and Steve's one of
  491. 26:26them for all I know Steve orders did and
  492. 26:30they are the charlena I don't think she
  493. 26:33did it well who's the other person Hey
  494. 26:35Stephen Charlene but I don't think
  495. 26:37Charlene did I don't think Steve did it
  496. 26:40but I don't trust anybody
  497. 26:47so there's no
  498. 26:49no love lost no not between me
  499. 26:55and for the hell that Steve put me
  500. 26:57through for eight years I don't think
  501. 26:58it's gonna
  502. 27:00be that bad
  503. 27:03it's not Revenge
  504. 27:05but I don't have to worry about him
  505. 27:06beating me up anymore
  506. 27:08I don't have to worry about him trying
  507. 27:10to take my kids away anymore I won't
  508. 27:12have any kids
  509. 27:15and I guess I am getting sort of bitter
  510. 27:18I was just thinking I sound bitter I
  511. 27:20don't like being alone I never thought
  512. 27:22I'd ever be alone
  513. 27:24I figured my kids would be around for
  514. 27:26the rest of my life my kids and their
  515. 27:28kids and their kids
  516. 27:31and that's not it and I won't get them
  517. 27:34back
  518. 27:35I had one attorney say that one CSD has
  519. 27:38their hands on your kids you never get
  520. 27:39them back
  521. 27:40I think she's right
  522. 27:44and I don't like being alone and I have
  523. 27:46nothing more to go for I have nobody to
  524. 27:48take care of
  525. 27:49nobody to work for nobody to hug and
  526. 27:53love so I'm gonna fight
  527. 27:56and I'm gonna fight the people that
  528. 27:58deserve it and that's the Lane County
  529. 28:00legal system
  530. 28:05and I'm gonna win
  531. 28:09and I'm sorry if you think I'm wrong but
  532. 28:11I'm not wrong somebody violated me and
  533. 28:14my kids
  534. 28:15and one of the most horrible ways I can
  535. 28:17think of
  536. 28:18I didn't think anything else was could
  537. 28:21happen until the judicial system got
  538. 28:23their hands in it and now they're
  539. 28:25ripping us up
  540. 28:27work
  541. 28:31and they're wrong and everybody should
  542. 28:34know about it
  543. 28:38and I'm sorry if you think this sounds
  544. 28:40like a Peyton Place
  545. 28:41or like it's a bunch of
  546. 28:44made up stuff
  547. 28:46but it's not
  548. 28:49we're Springfield News article did you
  549. 28:52get anywhere what's today
  550. 28:54oh hell I don't know I read them at the
  551. 28:57post office no
  552. 29:00I wonder who's getting it so a guy must
  553. 29:03be Laura no it's it's it's the newspaper
  554. 29:07that gets delivered out on Route 11.
  555. 29:10it's a new scene unlike newspapers that
  556. 29:13come in the post office every morning
  557. 29:15yeah you did that one type of deal
  558. 29:22how would you like to read something
  559. 29:24that's a little bit more honest
  560. 29:27truthful unbiased
  561. 29:36I could have said yeah I'd like to
  562. 29:41either want to hear the truth or you
  563. 29:42don't you're so ready to be angry at me
  564. 29:45for something you read in the
  565. 29:46Springfield News
  566. 29:49Springfield News and kevi are the only
  567. 29:52two that don't like me
  568. 29:54they're doing everything they can to
  569. 29:56paint you in a bad picture
  570. 30:01so obviously I don't give interviews to
  571. 30:04Springfield News and keti
  572. 30:07and therefore they don't like me even
  573. 30:10more and that's not paranoid that's true
  574. 30:12that's just the way it is
  575. 30:19[Music]
  576. 30:21well
  577. 30:27I'd love to send you something but I
  578. 30:28don't want to embarrass you by writing
  579. 30:33didn't attract any attention that was
  580. 30:37very important it had to be read
  581. 30:45[Music]
  582. 30:49I just wish I knew what the article was
  583. 30:51that you read was the one about the
  584. 30:53court hearing
  585. 30:56what Christie said and what Danny said
  586. 31:02think I read anything about what the
  587. 31:04children said yeah
  588. 31:06so keep your eyes open you'll run across
  589. 31:09oh it's coming oh yeah
  590. 31:11well I guess I'll get to read it then no
  591. 31:14I'm sure you will
  592. 31:16[Music]
  593. 31:19so anyway
  594. 31:21pouring outside
  595. 31:29I was supposed to talk to
  596. 31:33the TVs and the newspapers but I don't
  597. 31:36I'm too tired to I don't want you I'm
  598. 31:40sick of it
  599. 31:41but you know what that's it if I don't
  600. 31:44do it they won't hear my side they won't
  601. 31:46know the truth
  602. 31:49there's already people out there that
  603. 31:51hate me because of what they said
  604. 31:52Christy said and you know Nick Chris
  605. 31:55damn welding that's like Charlene's
  606. 31:57saying I sent her that letter I didn't
  607. 31:58send
  608. 32:00Christy could not have said what she
  609. 32:03said because it didn't happen there's no
  610. 32:07way in hell Christy could have seen me
  611. 32:08put a gun in the trunk cause I damn well
  612. 32:10didn't do it
  613. 32:12and yet people out there believe that
  614. 32:15because a woman out of a legal system
  615. 32:19said it was so and everybody is
  616. 32:22following the judicial system blindly
  617. 32:26everybody was raised the same way that I
  618. 32:28was you trust government you trust the
  619. 32:30cops they're going to protect you that's
  620. 32:32a bunch of [Β __Β ]
  621. 32:36at least here it is in Lane County
  622. 32:40I don't know how it is elsewhere because
  623. 32:41I've never run in with her before
  624. 32:52[Music]
  625. 32:56that's good
  626. 33:05[Music]
  627. 33:11I got my cast off right now
  628. 33:23I don't know what to tell you the truth
  629. 33:25doesn't seem to work
  630. 33:26it's almost like you don't want to
  631. 33:29believe the truth I guess
  632. 33:35[Music]
  633. 33:39I don't want to believe either don't
  634. 33:41look like that kind of a person that I'm
  635. 33:43getting not to be trusted
  636. 33:46well I'm not out there dying I don't
  637. 33:49know
  638. 33:58Oh I thought the letter upset you wasn't
  639. 34:00supposed to
  640. 34:02simply to inform you of what's going on
  641. 34:11I didn't tell you about Steve to uh
  642. 34:16upset you either I was just stating all
  643. 34:19the facts of what's been going on lately
  644. 34:21so that you're up on all the news
  645. 34:24because I didn't think you would ever
  646. 34:26want to talk to me and I just wanted you
  647. 34:28to know what's going on
  648. 34:36very good okay
  649. 34:44I just don't like being involved you're
  650. 34:48not involved
  651. 34:54you weren't even here I know that I
  652. 34:56stood
  653. 34:58man I'm just not
  654. 35:02no I'm just
  655. 35:05[Music]
  656. 35:07I just want to be left alone and be a
  657. 35:10mailman
  658. 35:12and you know that yeah I do
  659. 35:18you're my best defense you know that
  660. 35:22this is just what I need to be
  661. 35:25you really are because you're coming
  662. 35:27through exactly as I said you would
  663. 35:30have bless the three months been up or
  664. 35:32something no you're running like a
  665. 35:34scared rabbit I ain't running I went
  666. 35:36down told him what I knew I ain't
  667. 35:38running I meant to turn your back on
  668. 35:43nine that was over when you left long
  669. 35:45time ago
  670. 35:47I know
  671. 35:49and everybody says that I shot my kids
  672. 35:51so that you'd come and pick my hand up
  673. 35:53and pet me and say oh poor Diane and I
  674. 35:56said no he won't I know Ned better than
  675. 35:59that
  676. 36:01Nick will run away
  677. 36:09you're my best defense and you don't
  678. 36:11even know it
  679. 36:14well I hardly considered running away
  680. 36:17our time together just was over
  681. 36:22Thanos
  682. 36:25keeping it that way
  683. 36:26and then all of a sudden I get nine
  684. 36:29million questions from the cop and
  685. 36:31robber Squad
  686. 36:36they're sweeties aren't they
  687. 36:38[Applause]
  688. 36:40well they are tiring and time consuming
  689. 36:48that's very nice
  690. 36:51you know Nick for two weeks I really
  691. 36:53believe they were trying to help me
  692. 36:55I really did there were things that were
  693. 36:58said I was just so tired at that time I
  694. 37:01had just been shot I was very exhausted
  695. 37:04Christy was laying in a bed with tubes
  696. 37:06going through all parts of her body
  697. 37:07Danny was they found out two days
  698. 37:11afterwards that he was paralyzed and
  699. 37:13they just entered in a hospital but I
  700. 37:15was doing a whole lot of hurting and
  701. 37:17running back and forth between and
  702. 37:19trying to answer questions reenacting
  703. 37:21the crime going back out to the scene
  704. 37:23with them doing those whole lines
  705. 37:26because I really honest to God believe
  706. 37:29they wanted to help me
  707. 37:31you know what they did
  708. 37:34they just kept hanging around waiting
  709. 37:36for me to say something
  710. 37:40they really think I did it
  711. 37:44[Music]
  712. 37:45you're the only one who knows and if you
  713. 37:48didn't then you didn't and you got
  714. 37:50nothing to worry about if you did your
  715. 37:52ass is gone I can guarantee it
  716. 37:55so I mean
  717. 37:58that's why I'm not afraid I'm angry at
  718. 38:02what they're doing to my kids and what
  719. 38:05they're doing to you what they're doing
  720. 38:07to me
  721. 38:10foreign
  722. 38:14that's all I'm doing I'm trying to fight
  723. 38:16them
  724. 38:17and they're looking like fools in the
  725. 38:19paper
  726. 38:24yeah I'm gonna send you some articles I
  727. 38:27want you to know what's really going on
  728. 38:28here
  729. 38:30okay
  730. 38:31I want you to see what the investigation
  731. 38:34doesn't turn up
  732. 38:36and what they say about me and what I
  733. 38:39say about them
  734. 38:43and I want you to know that every time
  735. 38:45an article comes out the people are on
  736. 38:47my side you know why well that's what
  737. 38:50you told
  738. 38:54me because I didn't do it you people
  739. 38:56know it
  740. 38:59they say there's no way I've had two
  741. 39:02letters for two ladies
  742. 39:04said I know you didn't do it because
  743. 39:06there's no way you could have done with
  744. 39:08what happened to your kid and still be
  745. 39:10able to look at them and not crack
  746. 39:14it's been seven weeks Nick
  747. 39:17up until three weeks ago I would look at
  748. 39:20my kids and I would hurt because I know
  749. 39:23what they're gonna have to go through
  750. 39:24Danny is really pretty lucky
  751. 39:27he's healthy he sterilized but he
  752. 39:30doesn't bother him it's not an emotional
  753. 39:32thing for him at all he totally accepted
  754. 39:35and that's life
  755. 39:37Christy is the same way she just totally
  756. 39:40accepts what's happened to her
  757. 39:42the fact is Christy she's just as smart
  758. 39:46as she always was the brains are still
  759. 39:48there it's just hard for her to get the
  760. 39:50work to come out
  761. 39:52and that's
  762. 39:55got to be hard for Christy because
  763. 39:57Christy is a very verbal person
  764. 39:59she was she used to write poetry and
  765. 40:02matter of fact I forgot to do well
  766. 40:04Krusty Drew you a picture she was an
  767. 40:07artist today she Drew you a picture
  768. 40:09she wanted me to send it to you and I
  769. 40:11said no that I couldn't because like
  770. 40:13what you said it back she said well one
  771. 40:15of these days whenever you see him again
  772. 40:17I won't say that either because I know
  773. 40:20you're not interested what did you do
  774. 40:21with the rocking shell that the kids
  775. 40:23gave you
  776. 40:26I have no idea
  777. 40:27[Applause]
  778. 40:29anyway Cheryl had a flower she made a
  779. 40:32flower and she wanted me to send it to
  780. 40:34you but I want something
  781. 40:37sure I like to your flowers that was the
  782. 40:39big thing she's kept me roses almost
  783. 40:41every day after work I had wrote Cats
  784. 40:44roses waiting for me Cheryl had cut
  785. 40:47anyway it's very hard for Christy to
  786. 40:51speak and write indeed and that was the
  787. 40:54things that she did best in life
  788. 40:57and uh
  789. 40:59it used to hurt me real bad to have to
  790. 41:02go and see them that way
  791. 41:05and my God Nick if I had done that to
  792. 41:07them if I had
  793. 41:09no
  794. 41:20because they're gonna live now
  795. 41:22they're going to live the rest of their
  796. 41:23lives Danny's going to be paralyzed they
  797. 41:25say forever I don't believe it but they
  798. 41:27stay forever
  799. 41:30of course you'll be back to normal these
  800. 41:31days
  801. 41:36[Applause]
  802. 41:38I hope they both do fine sure they will
  803. 41:42physically
  804. 41:45the emotional part that we're fighting
  805. 41:47right now
  806. 41:49I took Christy a love letter
  807. 41:52because I didn't trust students and
  808. 41:55staff will take it to her they held that
  809. 41:58against me too
  810. 42:00because I told Christy that I loved her
  811. 42:03and I was trying to get her back home
  812. 42:06nice guys huh well
  813. 42:11I just don't know what to say about a
  814. 42:13whole lot of this
  815. 42:15you don't know what to say then why do
  816. 42:18you speak so bitterly when I first got
  817. 42:19on the phone
  818. 42:21well just because the newspaper look is
  819. 42:26your letter turning Steve in for burning
  820. 42:28your trailer and you did that [Β __Β ]
  821. 42:30together
  822. 42:31Greg's trailer oh no I didn't know about
  823. 42:34Greg's trailer
  824. 42:35[Music]
  825. 42:41anyway
  826. 42:52points in bed
  827. 42:58wow
  828. 43:00I just wanted to call and tell you what
  829. 43:03they're up to with the kids and see if
  830. 43:04you got to learn
  831. 43:06I did okay would you like me
  832. 43:16[Applause]
  833. 43:27okay
  834. 43:29I will
  835. 43:31sure you will
  836. 43:35okay well that's all for this evening
  837. 43:38I have to go get my rest so I can
  838. 43:40deliver mail me too I'm working full
  839. 43:43time again that's good to keep me off
  840. 43:46the streets no actually keep me on the
  841. 43:48street
  842. 43:52you're gonna be doing a walking round
  843. 43:53for three weeks
  844. 43:58it's about eight miles nine miles
  845. 44:01be good exercise I think that's what I
  846. 44:04need
  847. 44:05walk off my frustration
  848. 44:10okay I'll let you know if I get arrested
  849. 44:12okay
  850. 44:18try not to judge me on what other people
  851. 44:21say
  852. 44:23fear of all people should know me better
  853. 44:25than that
  854. 44:28right
  855. 44:32I should
  856. 44:34yeah
  857. 44:38yeah you should
  858. 44:43yourself
  859. 44:48if there's a reason that you don't
  860. 44:52want to believe that or not I haven't
  861. 44:54quite figured you out
  862. 44:56from how you've changed a bit I guess
  863. 45:02I have to think about that one for a
  864. 45:04while
  865. 45:08okay well
  866. 45:10get your mind off other things
  867. 45:13yes oh I got lots to do
  868. 45:16I gotta find ways to prove everything
  869. 45:20that they're paying his room
  870. 45:23and blow them up then you know what
  871. 45:26what's that I am leaving this damn space
  872. 45:30we're gonna clean it up and get the heck
  873. 45:33out
  874. 45:36[Applause]
  875. 45:44and that's just about where I'm headed
  876. 45:48so I'll talk to you on another day
  877. 45:52should I send the Articles and care of
  878. 45:54the post though
  879. 46:01well yeah that's fine okay
  880. 46:04have a nice evening
  881. 46:06sleep well thank you bye-bye
  882. 46:10[Applause]

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