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0:00What is diabetes actually? Diabetes is a silent killer. 80
0:06% of our diet consists of grains and it contains a lot of sugar.
0:11What is the biggest reason for diabetes? A man does not stop while walking, opens the door of the fridge,
0:17has to travel for two hours in some vehicles, so he keeps some things to eat, if he does not feel hungry, we are
0:21scared of hunger now a days, but in reality, if someone has diabetes, what
0:26is the problem with him? What is happening inside the cells is that excess
0:29glucose sticks to the protein in that body and the cell in which it sticks stops working and stops working. If it
0:34sticks to the kidneys, then the work of the kidney stops. If it goes to the heart, then the work of the heart
0:38stops. Diabetes is a disease of age people. It is not like that we have children of 10, 10, 11 and 11 years of age.
0:44I weigh 100 kg at the age of 10. If I have diabetes,
0:50I can balance it completely again. So the one whose blood sugar is high
0:55and who has diabetes,
1:00these days children's products come with the words 'no added sugar' written in them, but when
1:04we check their ingredients, there is a concept of non-refined sugar written
1:07in them, all these products are made to trap the man, they
1:12are making laddus of dates in sugar free laddus, so there is glucose load in them, what are the major changes we can bring
1:16so that we do not get diabetes, the first
1:21change is our today's podcast, every person. Anyone who wants to be healthy should watch it and
1:29especially if he is suffering from diabetes or there
1:34is a diabetic patient in his house. Our today's guest Mr. Lokendra Tomar is the founder of Diabex brand which
1:39makes very useful health products for diabetic patients. Recently he was
1:45featured in Shark Tank India season two and now his company is valued over 500 CR.
1:52Not only this, he has also written a book on diabetes. So I think
1:57we can't have a better guest than him to talk about diabetes. Please
2:02watch this episode till the end. We
2:07have talked about diabetes business, overall health and what are the myths in diabetes in great detail. By the end you will understand
2:13what you have to do with your health, so please enjoy the
2:19[music]
2:27show. Welcome to Shalu Nisha Cast. Thank you, you are the founder of Dabi. Which makes very unique and good products
2:34for diabetes. Yes, you have also published a book on diabetes
2:40, plus you have very good content on diabetes and it is one of the best
2:45channels on
2:54YouTube0 for the audience. Yes, today I am sitting here like a host as well as a student,
2:59so we can learn about this which we hear on daily basis but we do
3:05n't know much about it diabetes and Also you have built a very successful business so
3:11along with I think health, we are also
3:16going to get a business consultancy to our audience and to us. So I am very excited for this thank you I
3:20am also very excited to share few insights which I have learned in my life time so let
3:25's start with Shark Tank, Shark Tank paid Da Baksi who actually
3:30makes Dab's products but his Shaks got diabetes after hearing the valuation.
3:35You had proposed a valuation of Rs 100 crore there. Yes I think that is an in
3:40season two to two years back right. Yes, if we talk now, what is the current valuation
3:46of DIB. So right now, we are not raising funds but I think if I have to
3:54value it so we will value at around. 500 Crore Wow Amazing So Good In Two Years
4:00India has become the capital of diabetes. In every house someone has diabetes
4:05or they do not know it but diabetes is definitely there. If
4:10I want to know in simple words what is diabetes actually? If we
4:16want to understand the simplistic condition then there
4:22should be a particular quantity of glucose in our blood because glucose is in a particular limit if it is below that.
4:28If glucose is within that limit then all the organs of the body will be fine .
4:34If it starts increasing above that then we will call that condition diabetes. If
4:40the increased blood sugar level exceeds a particular value then we will call it
4:44diabetes. And when it goes above the value then all the system parameters of the body
4:51get disturbed because to manage the concentration of blood then
4:55the body has to do many more things. All the things have to be done and this
5:00is also the concept of Type One Type Two Diabetes. What is Type One Type Two Diabetes? So Type One Diabetes
5:05is that type of diabetes in which the blood sugar is increased but the reason for that is that our
5:10pancreas is not producing insulin. Okay, so now yes, now insulin is insulin is
5:17a type of hormone, so what is the purpose of insulin that we eat any food.
5:24After eating, it went into the stomach, whatever fat, protein, carbohydrate, glucose was there
5:29in the stomach, all that came out, then it went into the stomach and took out sugar. Now
5:35when it went from the stomach into the blood, from the stomach, it went into the blood and then from there it started circulating in the whole body. The cells
5:41will use it. Because our blood system is for transport,
5:46it cannot be transferred automatically from the blood to the cell. Glucose cannot be transferred automatically from the blood, so it needs a
5:52carrier, a transporter is needed, a laborer is needed who can pick it up and
5:56put it inside the cell from the blood. If insulin is being produced in the body, then it is
6:01produced by our pancreas. Okay, if it is being produced, then we ate glucose, we ate glucose,
6:06it came and put it inside the cell, the cell used it, then
6:12in a type one diabetes patient, that insulin hormone is not produced. So, eating anything, the blood sugar level
6:16becomes very high and in a type two person, it means that more insulin
6:22is being produced than required, then he has diabetes. Diabetes is due to lack of insulin and due to excess
6:27insulin. There is also diabetes, okay, so when there is more diabetes than required, then
6:32what is the use of insulin? It is fine to pick up the sugar and put it inside the cell, but from now on, it
6:37goes every hour and comes back after adding a bag of sugar. Then after every hour it
6:41comes back again with a bag of sugar. So our cell closes its doors saying that brother, I
6:47don't want sugar, I don't want sugar, even then the blood sugar increases because the cell
6:51is not taking it inside. This is type 2. When insulin is in excess, it is type 2.
6:55We ourselves create type 1 diabetes. It happens due to lack of God. God
7:02did something wrong. How come insulin is not being produced? Either means the pancreas
7:07is non-functional or insulin is being produced in some way and it is being automatically destroyed.
7:11Okay, so if you have type 1 diabetes, then understand that it is not man's fault, it
7:18is God's fault and type 2 diabetes means it happens due to man's mistake. What kind of mistakes of man
7:22leads to type 2 diabetes? In this, we need to understand food like
7:28in India, we are a vegetarian country, so we are generally vegetables vegetarian, so
7:34we will eat vegetable based things or we will eat things of vegetarian source
7:38, but what is the problem with that, when we become vegetarian, we
7:43do not eat vegetables, we eat grains, so we call them granitas, we eat grains all the
7:48time, so like in the morning, suppose we want to have some breakfast, then we eat paratha. Will we
7:53take curd with paratha or will we take vegetables with roti? Whose preparation will be made of wheat?
7:59When it is time for tea at 11 o'clock, I have taken buttermilk, I have taken biscuits, I have taken tea; So whose preparation will be made of
8:04wheat? For lunch, roti will be wheat or rice. Vegetables will be wheat or rice. There will be pulses. Grains have become.
8:11Similarly, even at 4:00 o'clock, there will be some grain with tea. There will be some grain at night also.
8:15So, 80% of our diet consists of grains and there is a lot of sugar in it,
8:21so how can we do this? We measure this, we call it the glucose load of the food, whenever we
8:28eat any food, it will release glucose in the body. Okay,
8:32so how much glucose will a food release, we will call it its glucose load, so that
8:37is the glucose load. Now like we said about 100 grams of wheat, if we eat flour,
8:42its glucose load is 50, that means, it will release 50 grams of glucose. If we eat 100 grams of rice, it will release approximately 60 grams of glucose.
8:47If we eat 100 grams of white flour, it will release approximately 60 grams of glucose.
8:53If you eat sugar, it will release 65 grams of glucose. So if you see the grains,
9:00their glucose load is very high and instead if we look at peanuts,
9:05if we look at almonds, their glucose load is two, three, four, five in that range. Okay, if you
9:10eat peanuts, the blood sugar will not increase, but if you eat gram, the blood sugar level will increase
9:15because the glucose load of gram is approximately 35 40. Okay, so
9:20glucose load is one such parameter. By which we can find out which food
9:26will increase the blood sugar, like if you eat omelette, then the glucose load is that of eggs. Okay, so if you
9:31eat omelette in breakfast, blood sugar will not increase. If you eat dosa, then blood sugar
9:35will increase because dosa is made of rice. Glucose load of rice is high. Okay, so basically
9:40what we have always been hearing is that if someone is eating too much sugar, then because of that he
9:45gets diabetes, but you are saying that we are eating more grains. Due to this, we
9:50are getting type 2 diabetes. Yes, we are eating such food items which
9:53have high glucose load, so we have to learn the concept of glucose load to understand
9:58that brother, how diabetes is happening due to food, although you have already
10:03explained it in a very good way, but everyone should know the answer to this thing, you tell me, like this,
10:09what is the biggest reason for getting diabetes, the biggest reason is our eating habits.
10:14If we change our food then we will not get diabetes. It means that we are eating such food which
10:20keeps on increasing the blood sugar day and night. Our whole body is already ripe
10:24that brother, I do not want sugar and we are being added on top of it.
10:27So this is the biggest main reason that our food habit is wrong. Then
10:32why is it not told to us. If it is such a big myth, we used to think that eating sugar
10:36is causing diabetes but today it is coming to light that Eating grains is increasing the value a lot
10:40and this thing has been going on since quite a long time, yes,
10:45if we look at the old times then it was not like this, probably our grandmothers have it now,
10:50but never from their mouths, have you ever heard that your mother-in-law, mother or father-in-law, they say that
10:54they used to be very healthy, but eating grains was theirs too, but mostly, but first if
11:00you see, then we define a term, episode of eating, which means that if we two
11:05If you eat peanuts, it is an episode of eating. If you eat a biscuit, you
11:10have an episode of eating. So let's define the term episode of eating. Whatever you eat
11:13is an episode of eating. Okay, earlier I too used to live in the village. In childhood, our
11:18episodes of eating were very less. Brother, before going to the fields in the morning, you ate and went away.
11:24You came back in the afternoon, you got something from the fields, then you ate something, drank some milk at 4 in the evening
11:30and went to sleep at night. Earlier, if you ate something, there were four general episodes of eating, there
11:36were not more than that, today you see that the availability of food is so much that a person
11:42is not stopping at all. One opened the door of the fridge while walking, one
11:48opened a few boxes on the dining table while walking, one came with someone and then today Entertainment Entertainment means
11:55eating, one or two people came and sat down, friend, asked for tea, biscuits,
12:00if one has to go somewhere, then eating, one has to travel for two hours in the car, one
12:04keeps the luggage. If a person does not feel hungry after eating, then we are scared of hunger now a days,
12:09so whatever fear there is of hunger, we don't know what will happen due to hunger, not staying hungry, I do
12:14n't know where people learn this concept that not staying hungry, hunger is really good for
12:19human being, that is why earlier it was also kept worthy. Yes,
12:23yes, the concept of fasting or hunger itself is therapy.
12:29If you are hungry, it means something good has happened in the body. Give nothing like hunger,
12:34okay so what are the symptoms of diabetes, how do I know that I am suffering from diabetes or
12:39any of my members or someone else is suffering from diabetes, the basic symptoms which start first are
12:46that there is tiredness, energy is feeling less, okay this is very simple, if I
12:52am feeling less energy, then why is the second one, I am feeling less energy and the frequency of this
12:59is more, okay person. Needs to go to the water is not drinking, still needs to go to
13:03the loo, there is a quiet frequency force, like from the back of the neck, it will look black,
13:10if the skin looks like velvety, then it can indicate that diabetes is happening
13:16or blackening will appear like this around the eyes, it can indicate, by the way, what
13:20is the reason for this that blackening starts on the skin, so the glucose which is there with the protein,
13:29so which we call glycosylation. So, when glucose protein
13:33sticks together, it creates a brown color. Okay, so the brown color that is formed is the
13:40reason why your biscuits become brown and because of that, your neck also becomes brown.
13:45Because of the glucose and protein, when it sticks together, blindness occurs in diabetes
13:50because it blurs the lens. Blindness can also occur, so
13:54when glucose and protein combine, it destroys the body. Okay, and like the
14:00symptoms you mentioned, these are like at which stage. As soon as we go, we start seeing some things,
14:05it will already start meaning that if you understand that if we
14:10talk about the value of blood sugar, then 80 85 is a very good range as fasting blood sugar level that 80 to 85
14:18fasting blood sugar level is mg per deci, this fasting blood means which we
14:23get checked without eating. Yes, without eating means not eating anything for 10 hours, after that the morning
14:28blood sugar will be this 10 hours. The minimum gap should be 12 hours. This is ideal and
14:33normally, if I want to get my check done late, then fasting
14:38should be done. Check. Yes, fasting is a very good way to measure that when we
14:43do the fasting measure, we will get to know that brother, how our blood sugar is behaving
14:47after eating. So we can say that it will definitely increase after eating because no, it is not so,
14:52it means it does not increase much after eating. If all the parameters of the body are fine,
14:57then if If the fasting blood sugar is 80 to 85 then it is okay, we are going from 85 to 90, that means
15:03the man should be a little careful, there is no need to panic like this but he should be careful, but as soon as
15:08If it goes above 90, it means that you are entering the danger zone and if
15:14you go above 100, you have entered pre-diabetes, your pre-diabetes
15:19is a grand entry. If it goes above 125, it means diabetes. If we are talking about fasting blood sugar,
15:25then 85 290 needs to be a little careful. 90 to 100 is danger zone. 100 to 125 is
15:32pre- diabetes. Diabetic and diabetic above 125 OK Lokendra ji, one thing I also heard is that
15:38if the parents have diabetes then there are more chances of having diabetes in future children, so
15:42it happens that it will always happen to the child, if the parents have diabetes then there
15:48can be a probability but it is not necessary that this will happen. Okay, that means if
15:54we see that out of 100 people have diabetes, then what is the reason, then we will see that
15:59one or two people will be like this or Less than 5, say those who
16:04have diabetes due to genetic reason. Okay, less than five, less than 5, you say that those
16:11are type one type cases and 90 are cases which are self-imposed diabetes. Get it now.
16:18We have created it ourselves. We are enjoying ourselves in diabetes
16:22by changing our food. Is it true that we can cure diabetes completely? Yes, now
16:29cure is a slightly different word, so like we say diabetes reversal and
16:35diabetes cure, these are two terminologies, then what is the meaning of cure, if you say that
16:41cure means that no matter what I eat, my blood sugar should not increase. I want to understand
16:45that if I have diabetes, I can balance it completely,
16:50again I will not have to take the medicine which I have already taken in the dose. In
16:53future, I want to understand that yes yes yes you are right, this can happen and we
16:59call it diabetes reversal. Okay, so now we talked about that when we eat food,
17:03glucose goes. Yes, the glucose handling capacity of our body is some certain
17:09amount, so if we live below that glucose handling capacity, then whatever
17:14glucose we sent is consumed by the body, but when
17:19the glucose goes above that handling capacity, glucose comes into the body but is not used. If there is something, it
17:24keeps circulating in the blood, so now our blood sugar level has increased, so the one whose blood sugar is increased,
17:30the one who has diabetes can maintain it in the non-diabetic range throughout his life, without
17:35medicines, okay, he will never need to take medicines in his life, if he
17:41learns the concept of glucose load, simply gut it and that is where I think diabetes comes in to play
17:49because we have eaten bread right three times and from that you are Saying that our
17:54glucose level increases, ji and Dr. Baxi are working on the same thing
17:59that we cannot change the lifestyle, eating roti is a habit of years, we
18:03cannot give it up but we can change that flour, right, absolutely, we
18:08will eat roti made of divex flour instead of wheat flour, just like we
18:11were talking about the glucose load, if wheat flour is 50, then only consumption of divex flour is ok, so there
18:17is so much difference. And there is protein at 40 in diabetic flour, then your protein
18:22requirement is fulfilled. Okay, and when the protein requirement is fulfilled,
18:27you feel light. You will see that the more carbohydrates
18:32are eaten, the more carbs go into the body, the heavier the feeling. The more protein goes into the body,
18:37the more light the body feels. OK, then there is fermentation
18:43of carbohydrates due to which there is bloating and due to bloating, pressure is created inside,
18:47so it looks like this. It is very strange that it has become fat, so basically it is your flour but
18:53there is no wheat in it, so yes, it means a very negligible amount which is main, it
18:58has nuts and seeds at 40, okay and there is protein at 40, it has fiber, so that is why the carb
19:04content is less than 15. All right, ok, Lokendra ji, tell me that
19:11diabetes we are hearing will have so much value, it has happened, but
19:16what happens due to this. Yes, like now my grandmother has it, so she just keeps saying that my sugar is high or it
19:22is max to max. Let us hear that she has to pass urine very often,
19:26has to go to the toilet frequently, but in reality, if someone has diabetes, then what is the problem with him,
19:31what is happening inside the cells, what is the problem with the person, then we will say that
19:36diabetes is a silent killer, okay o silent killer or we will say that diabetes is a termite
19:44. The house will look neat and clean from outside, but from inside the termites
19:50will keep eating it, then glucose is toxic to the body. If there is excess glucose
19:57in the body, then like I told you just now, it sticks with the protein and
20:02turns brown. So, that is the excess glucose in the body.
20:08The whole body is made of protein. Eyes are made of protein. The kidney
20:12is made of protein. The heart is made of protein. So wherever it goes, the
20:18glucose will stick to the protein and stop the functioning of the cell in which it sticks.
20:23Okay, so if it goes to the kidney, if it sticks to the kidney, the kidney's work stops. If it goes
20:29to the liver, then the heart stops working. If the fatty liver goes to the brain, then that
20:35memory is lost. Okay, so glucose is toxic to the body because wherever it goes.
20:43It sticks and destroys the cells. Okay, so the heart attack and kidney
20:49problems occur. The major reason is that glucose is too much. Yes, okay, if glucose is
20:56in excess, then we have understood that there is a problem with less too. Yes, with less, like
21:01if it is less, you will start feeling strange, you will start sweating, you will start feeling low energy.
21:08Otherwise, low is also dangerous, but low is not automatic, which means you will have to take it,
21:15okay. By injecting medicine, low is not automatic and high is also
21:21not automatic, we have to do that by eating. Okay, so God has
21:26created a perfect system, we are the ones who are balancing it by messing with it, that is our problem, it is God
21:32's, there is nothing wrong in it, so now like you said that the main reason for diabetes is our
21:38lifestyle and food habits. Yes, so what are the major changes we can bring so that we
21:44do not get diabetes in our lifestyle? The first change is that
21:51our thought process should change. Okay food is nutrition to the body, it is not
22:00entertainment. Food is not entertainment. This we have to understand because if food
22:05is entertainment then diabetes is your brother. Diabetes is going to happen. Okay or some other
22:12disease will happen. Suppose diabetes does not happen then food is not entertainment. Food is for
22:16the nutrition of the body. If this is our mind. Now if you understand that we have to eat to nourish the
22:23body not to entertain the mind and as soon as you do this, your selection of food
22:29will change, when in your mind you say, I am eating for the nourishment not for the
22:36entertainment, then when you eat for the nourishment, what will you
22:40eat for the nourishment? Automatic things start sorting out, then for the nourishment.
22:44If we want protein, then we will look for a source of protein, then only nuts and seeds will suit us.
22:49If we want vitamins and minerals, then we will eat vegetables. If we eat right and some fruits,
22:53then they are the source of nutrition. So, will we eat junk food now, we
22:59are just enjoying it, we are not getting nutrition, then as soon as our thought process changes that food is
23:05for nourishment, not for entertainment, so first we have to change our mind, then if
23:10we will do this change. So immediately our path, whatever path it is,
23:15will start going towards health. Firstly, secondly, we said that thought process,
23:22secondly, long term perspective of health. If suppose I ask you that today
23:30you are young, have come out of college and the Government of India tells you that whatever
23:37car you like in the world, you can take it and the government will give it to you for free, you
23:42do not have to buy another one, you will get one car and you will not get another one in your life, they will not
23:47give you a car for free. So you will get a car, whatever was your choice, now how will
23:52you take care of that car because you will not
23:55get another one in life, then the same thing body will not be found again, you have got only one body, so if you
24:03know that you have got only one body and you have to live your entire life on it, then the thought
24:09process that is very important is that there is only one body, food is
24:14there, firstly, food is for nourishment, secondly, we got just one body, it is not
24:19replaceable, you don't. Get the second body, the thought process will change as soon as it happens. I think
24:24a lot will change in life. It's very thoughtful. I have written my book, New Theory of Diabetes
24:31. Yes, even today you have worn this dress. It is very
24:35nice. So, what is the new theory of yours or that? We will have to read the whole book for that.
24:41Let us understand a little about where this problem happened. Let
24:47me explain briefly the diabetes treatment. Well, the history of diabetes is ours. It is 3000 years
24:51old but we just go back 100 years, okay so this is understood, 1923 24,
24:57at that time, there was a patient, he used to eat a lot of food,
25:04still he was losing weight, okay, he was drinking a lot of water, there
25:10was frequency of urination, right and weight loss is also happening, frequency of urination is
25:15not energy, man, so do you know what it is, brother, he is diabetic, okay, so he
25:21was given an injection of insulin. When given, his blood sugar became normal, his body weight which
25:26was decreasing, started increasing, the frequent frequency of urination stopped
25:31and he got cured. So, did we understand that diabetes is caused due to lack of insulin?
25:39Right, today is 2024, so let's go to 1924. Okay, so
25:46100 years ago, it was explained that diabetes occurs due to lack of insulin. At that time,
25:53the technology to measure blood sugar in the body was available. Okay, there
25:58was no technology to measure insulin. So, we just said that it was cured by injecting insulin.
26:02This meant that whether there was a deficiency or not, we did not know and we did not even know how much was the deficiency
26:06. We could not measure insulin, we had to measure sugar, we had to measure sugar,
26:11so we had started measuring sugar after 1900, how was it at that time, the same tests
26:16are done nowadays, that is, there were a few more different tests, but we realized that brother, this sugar
26:21can be measured because if we go back a little further, after 1850, we
26:25had learned the testing of carbohydrates, then we could have learned the testing of blood like this.
26:30After 1900, we first started testing sugar in blood. Sugar was measured in urine, okay, then they
26:35started measuring it in blood, so this evolution of science happened, but till 1924, all this was that you can measure blood sugar
26:41but you could not measure hormones, we could not measure insulin, so
26:46the technique of measuring insulin came after 50 years in 1975. Okay, at that time, he was a doctor and
26:55he said that he used to test everyone's blood, so he
27:00tested the blood of around 15000 people, diabetic people and They saw that none of them
27:04have less insulin and they told us 1950 years ago that they have insulin deficiency. Okay, so
27:11brother, it is a big mess. I mean, we learned this from childhood. He was a doctor at that time,
27:16Dr. Joseph Kraft, his name was that brother, there is no insulin deficiency at all and
27:21he extracted the data that there was too much of insulin in his body. There was more insulin than required.
27:26Now how did this happen? Then in 1990, this theory came that it is not insulin deficiency that
27:32is causing diabetes. Diabetes is happening due to resistance and insulin
27:36resistance is a reversible condition and can be reversed, so after 1990, this
27:41concept came that diabetes can be reversed. In 1925, this problem cannot be reversed
27:46because there is a deficiency of insulin and if there is a deficiency, then you have to give it from outside. So the thought
27:50process is the theory of diabetes which I wrote the book, this is a new theory, new
27:54understanding and this is also so new. No, it is 35 years old from 1990, but we don't know
28:01it, so it will take some time for people to understand, for government to understand,
28:05for policies to make. We are still following the thought process of 1925,
28:12diabetes can be reversed, this is proven science, now ok, you
28:18have explained very well, now we have also got clarity as to what will happen at all. What
28:23is diabetes in the body and how serious an issue is it? Yes, you talk about seriousness, I
28:29want to give you a little proof in this. I have just given you a survey in 2023 and
28:35the data was published in it that 11 per cent of people are diabetic in India and 15 per cent of people are pre-diabetic.
28:43Okay so a quarter of the population, 25 per cent of the people in our country
28:49have got more blood sugar than they should. Have and have high blood sugar means someone's
28:54kidney is breaking, someone is getting brain damaged.
28:58And quarter of the population do you understand and this is the situation. When we
29:03say that at 60, most of the people are below 30 years of age, isn't that demographic
29:08dividend type of conversation? So when they are young then this is the situation. If all of them are 50 years old
29:13then what will happen to them, can we afford to. Diabetic population in the country is over 50
29:19so we need to understand that it is a big problem which is coming on our way
29:26according to you how should we tackle the situation so I believe that knowledge and
29:31discipline are two ways which can save the country of India that one is the right knowledge like
29:38we are discussing right now and the other is discipline related to diabetes and you got just one
29:43body. Right you are not going to get another one in replacement absolutely so if we
29:49focus on these two components let's learn and let's follow the discipline right then I think
29:55we can achieve that Lokendra ji you have explained very well
29:59that how in our daily basis we use products, we use grains,
30:05if we check its glucose level, its correct words, right words, right,
30:09glucose glucose load, glucose load, if we check If we consume then
30:14there will be no extra glucose in our body. Yes, but we have so many of them on daily basis. Our
30:20food is so wide, sometimes dal, sometimes roti, sometimes you don't know how much is the variety of our food, so
30:27how do we check the quantity of each food, then it becomes a very headachey task, meaning where do I find it,
30:32tell me the effect. Today, we are coming to know that glucose load is something, those who do
30:37n't even know about it, how do we educate our relatives, yes, because when
30:43We started working with people and started guiding them, so we felt the need
30:47to have such a hands-on tool that a person can immediately see the food, so we
30:53have created an EGL chart which has more than 300 food items which we use at home. Okay, let me
30:58show you the EGL chart, so this is the chart in it. If you
31:04look at it, it is this type of EGL chart, so in it
31:10you are seeing color coding, traffic light is green, yellow is red, green is red. You can eat
31:14less yellow. If you don't want to eat red, then if you eat green then your
31:19blood sugar will not increase. It's so simple. Oh, and it is also available online. If we
31:23check it online on dx.com, it can be downloaded on your mobile,
31:28so whenever you look at it, it will be downloaded in your mobile. It will be downloaded in ₹. It is fine and
31:33everything is according to 100 grams of uncooked food items, so the complete
31:37chart is made on the basis of 100 grams, so this is We have simplified it a lot
31:41[Music] Yes Yes EGL Means Estimate Glucose Load Yes Yes
31:47Yes Breads Biscuit Fruits Non-Veg Sweets mentioned in all Yes Even sugar
31:55is only 4050 type So if there is red in it then breads
32:00should not be eaten Fruit Buns Pizza Base Yes You see Poha in it Readymade
32:07cereals Poha's EGL is 79.2 Almost 80 and we
32:15are told that it is very healthy have in breakfast now look wheat has 50, this
32:20has 80 oh my God which has the highest so far in the whole chart it
32:27is 100 of glucose and there is another component Malt Dexon okay it has 110 and they
32:32mix it in sugar free protein powder in protein powders etc. Okay
32:38that is the most dangerous item that Malto Dexon Its glucose load is very high
32:44and the more you look, the more you look, we will tell you some of the brands in which
32:47Malto Malto Decson is found the most. If you look at protein powders for diabetics,
32:52if you search on the net, you will find Malt Decson in the majority of the products.
32:57Then why is the industry doing this, that is, the thing which should not be taken and they are
33:02selling that on the shelf, then actually its chemical composition is such that it
33:08is in the category of sugar free. It comes ok but its glucose load is high so
33:14that's why they put it in sugar free category but that's why I
33:17said no knowledge is very important, right knowledge if there is then man will automatically
33:23choose the right product, of course, mine, so many meanings just by looking at this chart, I came to
33:27steel in Shok Ki Poha, because we have heard it very healthy and there was another
33:32product in it, honey, yes, honey, in fact, so this I think was in my myth too, but this is
33:38this. Seeing this my myth got cleared but still there are many more myths about
33:42diabetes so we want to clear them from you so first is people with diabetes can
33:48not eat sugar yes they should not eat sugar yes so this sugar is direct composition but
33:54apart from pure sugar there are lot of things which you should not eat like we said
33:58sago so sago glucose You should not eat Poha. The glucose load of Poha is
34:0480. This protein powder in which Malt Dexon is mixed is 110. That
34:09of Malton should not be taken. There are many things like energy drinks.
34:13You should not drink them because they all have glucose load. So there
34:17are many things. So, the concept of glucose load is very transparent as to whose
34:22glucose load is so high. If you have the EGL chart then that makes it very easy to
34:27do. Understand that this is food and this is not food, being overweight
34:32is the main cause of diabetes 2. If we take it a little further, like I said that diabetes
34:40is happening due to excess insulin, then yes, if there
34:44is more insulin in the body then many things can happen, first of all, weight can increase,
34:50second can be diabetes, third, blood pressure can increase, fourth, cholesterol
34:55can increase, fifth, PCOD occurs in females, so all five
35:00can happen due to increase in insulin. But to say that due to increase in insulin it is diabetes, due to increase in insulin blood
35:05sugar means blood pressure has increased, if it is obesity then the problem
35:11is increase in insulin. Now to whom what happens first and what happens later
35:17depends on the individual but the basic reason is too much of insulin in the blood that is causing obesity
35:23that is causing diabetes that is causing this cholesterol too high high cholesterol
35:28or what is called high blood pressure. Also, in general, we have seen and heard
35:33that diabetes is a disease of aged people, but it is not so, you understand the meaning,
35:42we have children of 10, 10, 11 and 11 years of age who weigh 100 kg at the age of 10.
35:47Wow and type 2 diabetes occurs at the age of 1213 years, not type one, not type 2
35:53because of too much of insulin. Now talk, you mean a 100 kg weight 10 year old
35:59child, can you imagine a 10 11 year old child, there are many such cases, it is unimaginable
36:07, so it would be diabetes now because the fu one, now what happened here that a 10 year old child and
36:13a 100 year old child. Why is this one not of 100 kg, then there is a little bit of genetic
36:17region here because he is bringing that if he eats one, then he gets four, if the other
36:22one eats one, then he gets only one, so there is a little bit of genetic here, but what
36:27can be controlled, this can be controlled by right eating habits.
36:31Rice should be eaten in diabetes, as we saw that the glucose load of rice or products made of rice
36:37is 60 and many of its products
36:43have more than that. Glucose load is why we should not eat rice in diabetes because it
36:48spikes the blood sugar level. In a house, if you want to drink tea, you
36:53add jaggery in place of sugar, is it right? Now we gather two or three things and understand
36:59that sugar is done, jaggery is done and honey is done, all three things are right. So sugar is
37:0599.5 but sugar is ok, there is no moisture in it, but 0.5 moisture is fine. If there is moisture in jaggery at 10
37:14then obviously if there is water at 10 then the sugar will come only at 90. Well, when we
37:20are saying sugar then that lump of sugar is that sucrose, which means when we will talk about the chemical component,
37:26yes yes, there is sugar, that too jaggery is also sugar. Okay, you understand this.
37:31Understand brown sugar. What is the difference in that, there is no water in sugar, there
37:36is water in jaggery at 10, there is water at 10, so there is water at 10. Meaning, sugar has reduced at 10, honey
37:42has water at 15 and 20, so sugar has reduced at 15. This is the difference. You make sugar solution
37:49and drink honey, it is the same thing, but why is it believed that if you are drinking sugar
37:52, it will not do harm. If you are drinking direct sugar, it will do more harm. Now that
37:56is the thought process, people will be there, but when we talk about blood sugar impact, it
38:01will be similar and the second thing that happens is that this One has to eat more things because the
38:05sweetness of jaggery will be less than that of sugar. Yes, a person will eat more at 10-20. Right,
38:11the glucose that was supposed to be consumed is going from the sugar in excess of what is required. So,
38:16what is its alternative? If there is an alternative, then first of all, the taste buds should
38:21not be developed in such a way that you have a requirement of sweets all the time. Okay, so that means you know,
38:27when you eat for the entertainment, then it is yours. If your food habit is
38:32different, then you need sugar,
38:39if you do not eat it very frequently, then your requirement gets reduced, but as of now,
38:45the life style has become like that means from morning till night, sweets are there, I have tea
38:52in the morning, eat something in the afternoon and then at night, it
38:56will obviously take time to change the habit, but I have to drink tea late, I cannot drink it weak, so
39:00what is the best alternative, ok let me. There is also a concept of sugar free like take it
39:05yes sugar free no sugar free is good to eat ts
39:11ok let me take the concept through a different pattern that glucose is a drug let's think
39:19in that matter like alcohol is alcohol is a drug ts yes no glucose is a drug ok
39:26now what does this drug do is that as soon as we eat any food which is giving glucose
39:31then there is a chemical in our brain which is dopamine which is If there is a feel good factor, then there
39:36is a spike and it is fun, so there is a principle in management, when you
39:42read management books, that behavior reward is behavior repeated, like you
39:48have employees, you want to make them repeat a behavior, so you start rewarding
39:52the behavior when they see it, they will start repeating the behavior, so behavior
39:55rewards. Now what was the behavior that as soon as we
40:00ate sugary food ? Dopamine spiked and felt very good, we did not have to do anything else, we
40:07just had to eat, we enjoyed eating and the after effect was also good, so we
40:12want to repeat the experience, so
40:26that's why drug, first a small pill will do, then you will eat more, then you
40:31will eat more to get the same effect, same happens with the sugar, so that is why the
40:37frequency of the sugar increases and this is what I am saying, isn't it malt? Foods of this
40:41type, due to their high glucose load, their insulin response
40:46is also high, so when their insulin response is high, that dopamine goes high,
40:51okay, so that is why we enjoy eating more, so if you
40:55want to create such a food, which will be eaten again and again, then only the sales will be there, the man will eat more again and again and
41:02only then the company will make money, then add some such component that the man will eat again and again.
41:06His blood sugar will keep spiking. Okay, so when we eat for entertainment,
41:11we choose that food which makes us spike our dopamine, that is why this is
41:18the fact in our India, we have heard that this is not the case in other countries,
41:22even in kids' products there is so much sugar. In India there is a lot of sugar
41:26even in kids' products because they develop the habit right from the beginning.
41:29Yes, for kids, you can eat this malt. I am telling you in dexterity that
41:32it is there in children's products and there is no meaning left in baby food, that is why I
41:39am saying that knowledge is needed to fight every big need to understand that brother, I
41:43will not eat this, we mean, we should not make fool of you, not in the matter of food, brother,
41:48you are having fun, eat, eat, and you are being fed only food because it
41:52is entertainment, eat, drink, watch TV, then eat, watch the match, then eat and roam around. Go eat then why
41:57should we eat again and again brother Right We are not just consumers TV
42:02has made us consumer consumer type goats We have to understand that we have
42:06only one body Only one body is ours Why should we destroy it So much of
42:11advertisement towards food I think is a very dangerous
42:16policy Food as an entertainment Right affects entertainment like
42:20I have linked the popcorn that if you are watching a movie
42:25, popcorn is a must. My little five year old child is also saying, Mama, watch the movie today, make popcorn, meaning why eat
42:29popcorn while watching a movie, I need this. Who gave this concept and they give cold drink
42:35that while watching the match, drink cold drink and how will it quench the thirst
42:39? It has so much sugar in it, it dehydrates and when it dehydrates,
42:43it And we feel thirsty and we keep drinking it because again thirst
42:49creates and dehydrates the body, so all these products
42:54are made to trap man to earn money, we are destroying our body,
43:00that is why knowledge is very important that if I say, brother, make something, I don't want
43:06to eat it because you will not be able to stop anyone from advertising, so
43:11you will not create such an autocratic society. It is possible that the government will ban everything,
43:15you will not be able to do that, then what can we do, I will not eat, the world should keep eating
43:19or you can share your knowledge with the people, who can understand, they should adopt, yes,
43:25the treatment for everything is not a law, we can make a rule for it, make a rule for it, how many rules
43:33will you make, you will make a rule today, tomorrow something else will come out, so what is the treatment, we have to understand ourselves
43:39that God has given us only one body, if we don't get another one, then we have to take
43:43care of it. It's exactly like in the children's products these days it is written 'no
43:48added sugar' but when you check their ingredients, it contains millets, millets,
43:53all these things plus then they write that if there is
43:57a concept of either jaggery powder or non-refined sugar written in it, is that thing right? You should
44:05not give it to your children. No, everything is wrong. Now what is happening these days that
44:09they are making laddus of dates in sugar free laddus. Yes, they are glucose loaded, ok, glucose
44:15loaded, they are sugar. It's more than that, so how can it be sugar free, that means
44:21it's just a twist on the concept, so that's why I said that there is an area
44:27which separates all the milk, milk, water, water, what is its glucose load? Okay,
44:32so the glycemic index is multiplied by the total carbohydrate content in the food, divided
44:37by 100, this is how you get this glucose load. Okay, and in medical text books, you
44:42will get this by the name of glycemic load, which means medical terminology. This is called glycemic
44:46load. Okay, so now we have got the habit of reading the ingredients to see how much
44:50sugar is there in it, how much is in that, but now we have to go to the next step, we have to go to the next step, one
44:56more because as soon as everyone came to know that sugar
45:00is bad and causes diabetes, then what did the whole company do, they
45:04again fooled us, which I understand roughly,
45:09but now if we actually If we want to take care of our health, then we
45:13should check this new term you have mentioned, Glucose Low Load, how much is it. Exactly, if
45:20we go so deep, don't you think, how much less will be left in the edible items
45:24? Yes, there is so much of food, we are not entertaining our self, we are
45:29nosh, our self, why we need to eat so many things, we don't need, but if nature has given so much.
45:35Something has been given, it means that all the facts have been given. No, if I am talking about dates,
45:40what is coming to my mind is I know, she is giving, there is sugar too, come inside her.
45:45Well leave this, either I am a foodie or I am in tension,
45:50but actually you have told me a very simple thing that we do not want food that much
45:57but mainly our mothers have implanted in our mind that if you are hungry, eat something, you are reading,
46:04eat something, that is what I thought, something comes from there too, some lifestyle has become such
46:09that we keep watching through advertisements, after watching, we feel like eating, so all these
46:14things are there. A, as a society we are scared of hunger right and also this is what we have seen in the culture
46:20outside, perhaps it happens that breakfast is taken light whereas here
46:24in North India, breakfast is taken very heavy, we, we, we have been seeing the same culture, we
46:29have been living and perhaps it is the same in the future, yes, we also believe that
46:33if there is any wound in diabetes, it is very difficult to be cured, yes, it is
46:38right, yes, absolutely right, as we said that the food. When it goes into the body and
46:45releases glucose, then the glucose is also food for the bacteria, okay, and
46:52secondly, what we saw is that glucose is toxic for the body cells. Proteins, so
46:57in our body, the thing that helps us in healing is the protein and
47:02the food that the bacteria need is glucose, so when glucose goes there, it
47:08sticks to the protein and does not allow it to work and keeps on giving food to the bacteria, so
47:13our body does not heal and the bacteria keeps on growing, hence it is not
47:16able to heal. So now how will the treatment happen unless the blood sugar comes down? Healing will not happen.
47:22How is blood sugar coming down? It is not coming by breathing air. We
47:27are not increasing blood sugar by drinking water. How is it increasing? What we are eating is food and there
47:31are only three components in food, some are fat, some are protein, some are carbohydrates.
47:36Carbohydrates are converted into glucose. Fat is not converted into glucose.
47:39Protein is not converted into glucose. So we look at the food to see whether we
47:44are eating. If we change then our body will automatically change.
47:49Exercise has some role in diabetes. To reduce blood sugar through exercise, trying
47:57to reduce blood sugar by exercising is a very inefficient and outdated
48:03method. Okay, exercise is for muscle strength and not for blood glucose
48:09loving. So the concept is that if we ate one samosa today, we run two kilometers more.
48:15Now the carbohydrate you have eaten. If the sugar you eat or eat junk food
48:21enters the body, it will go through metabolic processes and
48:27in the metabolic processes, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, all these will use the body's resources
48:31to break it down and when you do exercise, it will also use that process,
48:36so we have put more burden on the body, first the burden of junk food and the burden of exercise,
48:40right, so it is not a wise thing to do. I ate and I exercised for two hours,
48:45then everything became equal for me, so if you ate right food and did exercise, you will build muscles.
48:51By eating junk food, junk food also has disadvantages and exercise also has disadvantages, so
48:55do not consider exercise as a compensatory tool. We should equalize the food eaten and exercise. You are just
49:02reducing your guilt. So yes yes, if there is exercise then its work is different, food's
49:07work is different, both are different works, right on social media. Already, we
49:13keep getting so much knowledge, no, some people are coming and saying that don't eat sugar, don't eat this, cotton,
49:19so much right now, everyone's mind is getting confused, I feel that after seeing the social media, I have become worried
49:23about what to eat, what not to eat, I am a healthy person, my body is healthy,
49:30I don't have any problem, it is true, what should be my life style in general, what should I eat according to you,
49:34now I am looking for the proteins and carbs of every thing and that too.
49:39Then it will become stressful, then you think that there
49:44is some fixed pattern or some lifestyle which we should adopt. Look, if you want a healthy body, then you
49:52will have to take this learning pen. Okay, if you
49:57want to become wealthy, then you need to understand the financial system. You need to
50:02understand how the bank works, what is a loan, what is the rate of interest.
50:05You will say no, yes, if I don't want to get into trouble, then you can't be. Wealthy you will say that
50:11I don't want to study in the hassle of fat protein carbohydrate, I just make it healthy,
50:15it can't be done so in the hassle, I will have to study, if I want to become healthy, then you
50:20have to understand, now you have understood what
50:24is the role of fat protein carbohydrate, where do we get it from, then you build up, so carelessness will not give you health, we need to
50:31learn it, second, now if we assume that we are ready to Learn and we are ready to
50:36implement now what we should do so some basic things we follow first rule
50:41Golden rule one meal of the day should be uncooked
50:47ok like sprouts or fruits with anything so we are not talking about this diet we are not
50:54talking about the diabetic patient taking now general introduction ok so one meal should be uncooked
51:00whether it comes from fruits or vegetables or comes from anything like you talked about sprouts
51:05non diabetic patient will eat sprouts not diabetic Will eat, it is not good for blood sugar.
51:09Yes, one meal is uncooked. The other meal should be protein rich. Okay,
51:18so how much protein should be rich? If we take 100 grams of protein, then 200 grams of vegetables along with it.
51:23Will eat a combination of protein and vegetable. So, a
51:29combination of protein and vegetable is okay. So one uncooked, a combination of protein and vegetable is fine. I think protein
51:34is also available from vegetables only. If I am not, color is no. No, the sources of protein are different. And
51:38vegetable is different, there is no protein in vegetable, there is water in vegetable at 70-80%
51:42protein, there is no grace in meat or grains, protein is not
51:49there even in grains, best sources of protein are nuts and seeds, okay soybean seeds and fruit
51:56source of vegetarian source of protein or those who take milk products, paneer, one who
52:01eats non-veg egg, if it becomes a protein source, then for everyone's category, like
52:05I said. Divex flour has 40% protein that is a very big source of protein for the
52:09people so any source of protein with vegetable is ok now third meal is done third
52:15meal we have to define what is the requirement of our body either we
52:21can do empty vegetable base third meal or we can do a combination of protein and vegetable
52:26so the best meal combination is protein with vegetables ok carbs. The intake
52:33should be minimized and because the carbs will come automatically, please tell us the sources of carbs.
52:40Whatever grains we eat, whether it is wheat, rice, millet or
52:46all these, all these are the sources of carbs. Pulses which are pulses have 50
52:52carbohydrates but 25 have carbohydrates but 20 have protein in them. Ok protein is coming
52:57from pulses but carbs are also coming no. What is the problem with carbs, what is its glucose
53:01load. Glucose load will increase and if we eat more than required, then gradually our
53:07blood sugar starts spiking, so vegetable should be the base of the diet while
53:13protein and fat should be added upon that and in short, a little bit of carbs which you
53:20want to put on top, then the pyramid is formed at the bottom, vegetable is in the middle, protein is fat and on top
53:25there is some carbs, right right right, that is the best way of eating food and don't eat
53:31for the Entertainment
53:44Regarding Datchi, you told that there is only 40% protein in diabetes.
53:51This question is coming in my mind. Big brands like Ashirwad Atta ji
53:55have been running for many years, why are they not entering this market? Look,
54:00I will tell you the story that when IBM was a very big company and all
54:06the computers were making main frames, then suddenly, HP and Microsoft,
54:16where did all these come from? How did these people do this because The vision which is visible in the market
54:21is sometimes not visible to those who are big giants. Secondly, a lot of
54:27red tape is present within the company itself. If there is a new idea they don't want to
54:32interact with it. Secondly, the market size is very small when you start something and they are a
54:36big company with a turnover of Rs 203 thousand crores. Even if a market of Rs 10-20 crores
54:41is being created then they are not interested. Will be interested when the market
54:45becomes worth 500-600 crores then they are interested that ok, there
54:49is something in the market now we will do it so many big companies are not
54:54able to innovate generally you will see whatever innovation is changing which is understanding that
55:01the changes that change the society always come from the ground, it
55:06is never their fault if a big company does not do big innovation. And
55:11it has always happened in the business world that the ground breaking company like Lama
55:16was the biggest company, it had so many warehouses, so much infrastructure, so many products, but
55:21still it became the biggest retailer in the world, even though
55:27it had more infrastructure, money and no vision, the leader never has that big of a vision
55:33which is leadership in the company, so if you want to call it Nestle or call it ITC or
55:38call it Dabur, all these companies are there. Creating a vision and for many years, like I
55:45have been engaged in this for 15 years. Will you
55:50be able to run such a small department in these companies for 15 years
55:55? The department you have run will not work well in a year or two because they have got other things to do that brother, with the amount of time that you
56:00are investing here, we can sell our cold drinks.
56:05So they will buy new things which are not set in the cost benefit analysis but once it becomes
56:11big then they try to buy out the company, buy it,
56:15do it, make a partnership, so it's okay, this is how the world works and one thing I also heard was that
56:21the price of Dr.
56:27Beneficial, if someone
56:31is buying it then it is easy to buy for a middle class person and a person who cannot
56:37afford but I have to understand the whole process of it. See, if we
56:44talk about nutritional value, then we can make a rough estimate that fat, protein and carbohydrate
56:50have become three nutritional components. Now let us see their price. If you take fat like ghee, oil, if
56:55it is oil then it becomes 50 00 kg. 500 600 00 kilos, it is right, then when we
57:02talk about protein, they are protein, soya protein,
57:06there are many such sources of protein. If we talk about the price, then 000 kilos, 00 kilos, 000 kilos, 000
57:12kilos, we have talked about protein. Now we come to carbohydrate, flour, sugar, ₹
57:18kg, 0 kg, so what is cheaper? Carbohydrate, whenever
57:23fat, protein, fiber is more in nutritional value, the raw material cost increases. So in the diabetic
57:29flour, there are only nuts and seeds at 40. Okay, when there are nuts and seeds at 40, there
57:35is protein in it, then when you use protein component, you use nuts and seeds, then
57:40the production cost automatically increases and what is its advantage that brother, it
57:45does not spike sugar, so the cost is there because the raw material is the cost, and when there
57:51is other benefit, that is why it is the consumer. So brother, it is made for a specific purpose.
57:57Suppose it is an airplane. If it does not fly, then the airplane is useless. If we
58:02are flour for diabetes and the same starts increasing the sugar, then what is that flour for? Well,
58:06Divex flour is that flour beyond which you can close your eyes and believe that
58:12if you eat it, there will be no sugar spike. So, the formulation of this flour
58:17is such that the glucose load is low, there is no sugar spike, the roti is made soft and
58:22tastes good. Yes and long term, you had also explained this yesterday that its price
58:26is also good, everyone can achieve this, that too if you clear the concept here,
58:31then maybe the customers will be able to understand. Actually, now there are many cases
58:36like if we say that a person with type 2 diabetes is taking insulin and he
58:41is taking Rs 300-400 of insulin daily, if he eats divex flour, then there are many cases.
58:46We have seen that he does not need to take insulin, so if he
58:50eats flour worth Rs. 50 and his medicines worth Rs. 400 have been stopped, he has got a profit, right?
58:55He has got a profit of Rs. 50, but it is absolutely beneficial. Second, the body is
59:01not getting damaged. Yes, yes, for how much will a person buy a kidney? Second, for how
59:06much will a person buy a brain? How much will a liver be bought for a new one? So, when we see the health advantage,
59:12that is much. More So Diabey Atta is Beneficial Because That Gives You Life
59:18Right You Gut Just One Body Which is in Valuable You Are Not Willing to Sell Your
59:23Kidney for Some Money Absolutely Right Like even the sharks had said there that it
59:30is not something that means out of the box, it can be copied by anyone, so what happened is that other
59:34brands came in your competition, look at the competition which is the diabetes market
59:41even before us. Products used to come and will continue to come after us, but do they have the
59:47same vision in their heart? Our mission is
59:53to eliminate diabetes from India like polio, so every step of ours is in the same direction that after joining us,
59:58will his medicines be stopped, will his blood sugar become normal, will it
1:00:02go in the non-diabetic range? We ask ourselves such questions, then every product
1:00:07of ours is towards perfection, so we aim to make the perfect product. We try
1:00:12and load such ingredients to be very less, so we
1:00:19define the cost later, first we make the product that is it the best product
1:00:23and then we will see that financially which cost fits, just like a little while ago you had said that
1:00:29the big brands are Aashirwad Atta or Shakti Bhog Atta, so they
1:00:34are entering this market because the market is very small in this, the business is not that much, isn't it, but
1:00:39you have also read so many books, you are very good in business, already you told so much.
1:00:43There is also valuation and you have already run a successful business, so
1:00:48what is there in your mind that if they feel that there is no business in it but you are still
1:00:53engaged in it for so long, look at the business in the future, people see it when
1:00:59the company becomes big, when the business grows, when the market becomes big, then what
1:01:03It is a thought process. I said that this thought process itself is new. We have a new theory of
1:01:07diabetes and not the lack of insulin. Diabetes does not occur due to lack of insulin.
1:01:10Food is responsible for diabetes due to access to insulin. Brother, if food is like this, then I think this
1:01:16is a new concept in people's understanding and I think that
1:01:22because of the social media that is a beneficial tool, our conversation is reaching so many people. So many
1:01:27people are taking its benefits, so it is slowly spreading. The market will develop and when
1:01:31it will grow, they will look at it. Every bud will come here. Sir, a very like
1:01:37question always comes in my mind, I don't know whether it is valid or not. My grandmother
1:01:41has sugar at home, so she makes some or the other efforts to
1:01:45maintain her sugar. For example, sometimes when it is the season of blackberries, she takes a bite of blackberries and uses it to
1:01:50dry and then she uses it. Many times we consume Neem wood and
1:01:55use it, see its benefits, these are blackberries, bitter gourd,
1:02:01fennel and cinnamon, there is no special benefit from all these things,
1:02:08the problem is that on one hand, we have eaten food which has
1:02:13put a lot of glucose in our body and on top of that, we are eating cinnamon and all these bitter gourds, blackberries, etc., so it
1:02:18will not make any difference, it will be like that after reading a book for 10 minutes, an IIT man Crack
1:02:21OK and the second thought process is that it is still the same old thought process that
1:02:28diabetes is occurring due to lack of insulin and these herbs spike the insulin that
1:02:34if bitter gourd comes, there are such components in bitter gourd or there are such components in jamun which
1:02:38help in increasing insulin but our problem is not that insulin has
1:02:42already increased, so why should we eat such foods which are increasing it further, then this thought
1:02:46process is wrong with our food. We have to change, we do not need to eat these hubs, to
1:02:50change the way we think, the only solution that I have understood so far is that either
1:02:56keep taking medicines or you will have to correct your food habits. You also have to understand that
1:03:01without correcting your food habits, medicines will not work. Medicines are a temporary solution. Yes, we
1:03:08are pushing the problem away. Right, sir, you have given us so much knowledge, like we
1:03:16cannot talk to the doctor for so long. And you had told in Shaak Tong that you were
1:03:21in pharma and you have read 1000 plus books. Now I think
1:03:27it must have been 2000 as time has passed, so
1:03:34you have taken all this knowledge about health, diabetes business from books. Yes, the success in my life has come from books,
1:03:41meaning what ever I am today that is because of my reading habit, self learning self.
1:03:45What else was meant by learning was that when I was working as a medical representative
1:03:53after completing my 12th degree in pharmacy,
1:03:56I got my first book as a gift. I was a top sales performer, so I
1:04:01got a book and it was How to Win Friends and Influence
1:04:05People and when I read that book, I said, no one has taught me this, this
1:04:10is so important, so started learning. And as I started reading from books
1:04:16, there were opening things which were never taught in schools, so from there,
1:04:22like I read a book by Brian Tracy and in it he told that you
1:04:27can become whatever you want in life, but are you the deserving person who deserves this
1:04:36success, you want to be the
1:04:41richest person in the world, so he said Brian Tracy said that
1:04:46you build capabilities within yourself, right then after that things will start happening to you automatically,
1:04:53so I started developing two skills in me and those skills kept developing and slowly
1:04:58read. Secondly, I will tell you an example that there was a very successful man, he
1:05:04was in America or Japan. He was anywhere, you cannot go to him, but you
1:05:09can get him to come to you with the book, so whatever he did in his life
1:05:14was a biography. There are people, you read his biography and you will understand that he
1:05:19is talking to you and you can learn from that and you get a book worth Rs. 250, 300, 400, 500
1:05:24and the essence of the whole man's life is in the books, that is,
1:05:30what can be a cheaper deal to grow in your life than that
1:05:34you got the whole life story of a man in one book and you can learn from them without physically going there.
1:05:40Rat So I Think It Was A Fantastic Trade And I Loved It So I Read So Many Books
1:05:45And That Made Me So Successful In My Life Feeling Inspired Book Benefits of Book
1:05:52We Like Everyone Says Something But How Beautiful You Have Explained It
1:05:57's Really Beautiful We Can Feel That They Really Understand That Thing And Then
1:06:02Growth has happened only from that thing. It is only through books that I can feel that now, so much of the journey you have traveled
1:06:09with books. Which are your favorite five books? My author is very favorite,
1:06:16that is, because I catch the person, that if I understand the concept of it,
1:06:21then it means that this person is right. Whatever he writes, understand it, so rather than books, I go
1:06:26behind the person. Okay, like Robert Kiyo Saki, whose rich Dead poor dead he has
1:06:32written around 1718 books and I have read all of them great whatever he did because I
1:06:37like the person which is his thought process which is about financial freedom so if you have to
1:06:42read books so read whatever Robert Kiyo Saki has written around 1718 books second I
1:06:47am in health related segment so one author is Dr. Robert Atkins so he rot about
1:06:54This low carb concept in 1970 1970 1980 1990 was working during that time so
1:07:02his concept is also he has eight 10 books OK ya read about this Brian Tracy
1:07:08is about sales he is about growth he is about development ya you read them Seven
1:07:13Habits of Highly Effective People This wonderful classic book you can read that You
1:07:19can read the Magic of Thinking Big That, right, like I have read How to Win
1:07:24Friends and Influence People, meaning if you haven't read this then man is literate, meaning
1:07:30you understand that the biggest gift and the biggest skill you have on this planet is the ability
1:07:38to read right if you can read, you can gather so much of knowledge, so many books, so much text, there is so much text
1:07:44to read and you have one skill that you can read, I think. The Fantastic Thing
1:07:50You Can Read And Understand And Grow Your Life Right Nothing Better Than Reading Is A
1:07:56Fantastic Skill In Books We Read, We Spend Time And One Nowadays, A
1:08:02Lot Of Videos And Audio Content Has Also Come So How Do You Look At It Reading
1:08:07Is God If You Really Want Knowledge Don't Go To The Videos Read Books Sir, Many Times This
1:08:15Happens, I Have Seen This Myself, Those Who Know Me It is said
1:08:20that whatever they see, it gets settled in their mind. Maybe after reading, they
1:08:24can go beyond it, but whatever they see, they live that thing. Yes, I
1:08:28understood that concept, so I think this is also balance, so as I am a book reader, I
1:08:34will tell you the value of it. So when you read and that line by line, when you
1:08:41are reading, you visualize okay and that slow In the process,
1:08:46that slow melting happens in your brain and gradually you
1:08:52absorb it. Watching movies, reading the
1:09:14youtube's is good to recollect, so
1:09:19it is better to make it stronger then you go through the shorts, that is, if you watch his shorts,
1:09:25how will be the journey? First you will read the book, then you will watch the video, then from the shorts you will
1:09:29keep getting reminded that okay, these were important points, so this is how.
1:09:33Things go on, so when I started reading, I started making notes of the
1:09:38books I read, and I also used to write on the book
1:09:41about the date I read it, so then I used to look at it later, after turning the pages like this,
1:09:46this is the way I used to do, that is, like the old way, now these short shots come,
1:09:52so I look at the people, this guy is good, let's talk right, then I look at them butt.
1:09:58It's Very Addictive Now Aaj U Know Short Sir Right Actually One I Think Also
1:10:03Like If We Are Watching Someone's Video Then
1:10:08We Perceive The Story In Which Way He Wants To Tell. If Someone Is Saying There Is A Beautiful Scenery
1:10:12If He Is Showing Then We Are Seeing The Same But If It's Written In A Book Then We
1:10:16Build Our Scenery Our Own Imagination Is Also Different. There is a big
1:10:20difference in thinking and our mind has become lazy, it doesn't want to think much, it is fine,
1:10:26yes, see, reading, when you are doing it, it takes time, it takes effort to
1:10:31understand, and this, it looks like a quick fix, so if I
1:10:36compare both of them, brother, what is better, then reading is way beyond anything
1:10:42else, so you have read so many books, your books mean the biggest learning.
1:10:49What is it like that it changed my thought process like if I
1:10:53tell you about mine I read this book The Miracle Morning, after that there
1:10:59were a lot of changes in my life, then something like this happened in your life or the biggest learning from the books So my one
1:11:07line learning which is after reading so many books that you can become what you
1:11:13want to amazing it's possible it's within you it's not outside you you can Well,
1:11:20Lokendra ji, you have already set up a very big business and
1:11:24are getting very good growth. I want to ask what has been your business learning till now.
1:11:29My thought process in The Journey Business is that business
1:11:36should always be for social service for social welfare. Any business which is not doing social service is not a
1:11:42good business. People would like to do it, I would not like to do it. I want to
1:11:46contribute to the society. So, people should do such a business which works for social welfare.
1:11:51And I think if all the Indians or most of the
1:11:56businessmen will think like this, then our India will be something different in the future. Ultimately,
1:12:01what we are. Doing When We Are Born In This Planet We Are Going Without
1:12:08Contribution Is A Really Sad Thing We Are Here For So Many Years And We Are Not Giving
1:12:13Something We Are Making It Worst We Should Give Something And What We Can Give At Least
1:12:19A Man Can Give Only A Few Kind Words By Praising People, He Can Only Do This Much, Can't He Think
1:12:25About Giving So We Feel That Donate, give money, don't give. Even a
1:12:31smile can make someone else's day.
1:12:36Seeing the smile or positivity on our face, if you praise someone, then that is giving. You should do such work which will
1:12:42benefit people, that is, you do the business right. It means if you have a job,
1:12:48let's say there is a man who does electrical work, he
1:12:52is given a contract to do the electrical work, he should do all the electrical work on time. Do the work right, that is you know, it is giving
1:12:58it to the society, so that meaning should be taken from this angle that brother, whenever I
1:13:05do any work, he should have such thoughts in his heart that I have to do good, do the right thing, do good and
1:13:10not do wrong, then in this way we will be able to create a good country, we will be able to create a good society and
1:13:16will be able to create a good business because the work comes to the one who is dependable, the right one who
1:13:22is not dependable does not even get the work,
1:13:25so if we have in our mind that I have to do good to the society. If you want to do business for good then automatic
1:13:30things will fall in place then everything will be right. Man will also get right, clients will also
1:13:34get right, money will also get right, growth will also be right, happiness will also be right,
1:13:39there will be no quarrels in the family too, then everything will fall in place. Once you become
1:13:43that kind of person then you will attract these kind of
1:13:47people. Very thoughtful and very true Lokendra ji. Who is
1:13:55my favorite businessman? He is John D. Rockefeller. Okay, so he was the petroleum man
1:14:03of the world. So, when he started the petroleum business, he was a clerk and
1:14:08from there he started building the business and I learned one thing from him that earlier,
1:14:15when petrol was produced, it was tin cans and not round drums.
1:14:20They were filled in them, so to close it they used to put a lid
1:14:26and stitch it to close it. Right, to close the lid, we used to put
1:14:3140-50 stitches in it, so we started saving the cost, so do one thing brother, we have put 50 stitches
1:14:37, close it in 45 and see, okay, close it in 40 and see, so we brought it down to something
1:14:44like 28 and 29 and that's it fixed up, that means a businessman, who now how much money is it costing to put stitches in every small thing,
1:14:50but he was looking at that and that's it. Keeping
1:14:56account of everything, he was the best accountant and he createddrawernavigator.
1:15:25I am getting tensed. It is still going to be time for tea in some time. Now she will not drink it.
1:15:30Yes, but she will not go without drinking it. How to drink tea without sugar? Yes, for this, see
1:15:38this because we are struggling a lot with these situations, as we first
1:15:45started telling the patients, Bha, dal, rice, if you don't eat this roti, then what should you eat? Then we give it.
1:15:49CreatedDocumentsFragment
1:15:55If you want to drink or have a snack, what to do with it, then we createddrawernavigator
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1:16:24It contains sugar which sweetens it and it is heat resistant, which means you
1:16:29can do baking with it, do anything, it does not get spoiled even at high temperatures, okay yes, some things
1:16:34get spoiled at high temperatures, the sugar level will not increase, so it is very
1:16:39easy to sweeten anything which is in liquid form. Suppose you
1:16:43want to make the paratha sweet at home, add two drops of it in the paratha, knead the dough with it, then the paratha
1:16:49will become sweet, you will not need to add sugar anywhere, if you
1:16:52need to sweeten it, then you can easily sweeten it with this dab of sugar drop. Secondly,
1:16:57like food, what should we eat with tea, so as you are seeing this
1:17:03mini breakfast bar, we had found a replacement for the one who eats juice
1:17:08with tea. If you want to eat soaked juice, then it is the same, it is made from protein,
1:17:13and the sugar which is made from almond oil is
1:17:19the fiber which tastes sweet but does not go into the body and gets flushed out of the toilet.
1:17:22These are called oligo fructose and come in the category of dietary fiber.
1:17:27We have made these cookies by mixing components. Okay, so these are almond cookies, coconut
1:17:33cookies, so these are barfis for gifting to eat with tea, like cashew
1:17:39barfi or coconut barfi, chocolate barfi, such components which you
1:17:44can use for gifting or for sweets, so those things are also made, that is, we
1:17:49have also made such namkeen that we have made almond bhujia, so in it. There are slices of almonds in it and
1:17:54the namkeen is made using almond base, so generally whatever food items are there - flour,
1:18:00namkeen, biscuits, sweets, all those are available on Divex's website
1:18:05and they are fantastic in taste and generally they have a base of nuts and seeds. Okay,
1:18:10Lokendra ji, please don't mind, but every company
1:18:15comes as if sugar free flour has been made, yes sugar free cookies will be there, cookies for diabetic.
1:18:21There are many more such products for diabetic patients but now
1:18:26as we understand in detail, then this is a glucose load, a new term comes in it,
1:18:32so now we know how to trust diabetes also, meaning I am not saying that I don't
1:18:37trust you but as a consumer, what should I check that I know that yes this is the
1:18:44safe Q. So the first method is if I can show you, then like if you see this then
1:18:52it is a guideline. What is the load of ingredients in the ingredients of the government?
1:19:09Generally, you will get all of them. If you
1:19:15find any such ingredient then you
1:19:24now read the edit in it. See Nuts and Seeds R 35 Almond Cash Coconut Peanut Pumpkin
1:19:32Seed Sesame Seeds So now what do we understand from this that alum peanut whatever
1:19:37is the meaning of nuts and seeds, their glucose load is less than five, okay so There is an item at 35
1:19:42whose glucose load is below five. Now look ahead, that protein. Yes, that protein
1:19:47is also below five because there is protein at 90. Skim milk powder. Yes, this also has
1:19:53the glycemic load which is less. It is around 30 to 30. Its
1:19:59ok then gram flour. Yes yes then fructo ligo. This is fructo ligo saccharide.
1:20:08Okay, hydrogen vegetable oil. If it becomes fat then it has zero fat. It is zero.
1:20:16Okay, so how much should be the total overall? I combine all of them. Yes, so when we
1:20:22combine the total, then its cha pa is 6 or under 10. Generally, whatever the biscuit is, it
1:20:28is under 10. Okay, and if we see a normal biscuit,
1:20:33it is not there yet. Otherwise, we will check. If you see a normal biscuit, then
1:20:37it comes in the range of 40, 50, 30, 40. Okay in the range of 50, these come below 10. Sir,
1:20:43the main reason is because its base is carbs. Yes, one is flour base. You
1:20:48will see that the diabetic biscuit is a sugar free biscuit, its base
1:20:52is flour only but we, our base is sallow flower or any other nuts and seeds. Gut
1:20:57it agri, so that means the first car is carbohydrate. If I check the value,
1:21:01it is just 43 which will be very high in all. No, in 100 grams you see the net carbohydrate,
1:21:07the term net carbohydrate will be written, A net carbohydrate is 14 grams, yes,
1:21:13it is 14, it has 14 grams of net carbohydrate in 100 grams, OK, so the true
1:21:18carbohydrate is 43, but oligo fructose has come in it, fibers have also come, OK, so
1:21:25the net glucose which will be converted in the body is only 14 14 and the sugar
1:21:32sucrose in it is zero, yes, this is the same sugar which Generally the sugar we add in tea
1:21:37is yes white sugar white sugar ok and when we talk about refined sugar
1:21:42also sucrose is the same sucrose in it, that too is sucrose only, yes always if you
1:21:46look at the level of Divex like you or anyone else then
1:21:50read all the ingredients and compare them with the chart with EGL before you have it. You can
1:21:54call the call center number of
1:22:04the ingredients . And for any other product, you send the image
1:22:10and we will calculate and tell you. Okay, so this is done.
1:22:16Someone has a lot of mind and is well-educated for that. In general, whether this
1:22:24product is right or it is the quick way to know. Generally, if it is not flour, then it
1:22:30is good which has flour, which means glucose load is more. Very basic. If flour has any number
1:22:34of components, whether it is called flour or it is called flour, there is
1:22:39no special difference between flour and maida. Almost both are beans so if it is made of wheat or flour or jowar
1:22:45or millet then the glucose load will be more ok so we have to see whether
1:22:49there are grains in the product or not then the glucose load will be higher ok sir like this
1:22:54is your flour flour is not your flour come no no in general like flour
1:23:02is a product roti is so it is not that we will get immediate result
1:23:08For example, if we look at oil, a tribal oil also became very popular and said that if you
1:23:13apply it for three months then they would say that you did not apply it well or
1:23:16applied less, then we cannot see the results like this, so how can we be sure whether it really works
1:23:24or not or we keep looking only on the basis of these values. If
1:23:30even on the basis of values, things do not go well, then how can they judge a common man like my grandmother
1:23:35or a person like my mother? That this product is good, that product is not
1:23:41good, the best way to check any food in diabetes is blood sugar, so
1:23:46whenever you want to eat any food, check your blood sugar before eating that food and
1:23:52check it again after two hours. Now like if you have to eat wheat roti, then when you
1:23:57eat wheat roti, first check your blood sugar. Suppose you ate it with ladyfinger today,
1:24:01then check it after two hours. Next day, that multigrain flour, brother, it would be very
1:24:07good. Eat that roti and then have the same Bhindi vegetable and check it again after two hours
1:24:10so that the beans are still being cooked. On the third day, eat roti made of Divex flour
1:24:15along with the same Bhindi vegetable. Check your blood sugar again after two hours. You
1:24:19will get to know automatically from the incremental difference. If you eat any Divex product,
1:24:24check your blood sugar before eating. Check your blood sugar after two hours of eating and
1:24:28you can compare. This will help you know whether it is good for you. Is it
1:24:32good or not? Okay, so we can check it intentionally like this.
1:24:36You can check your blood sugar at home. There is no need to go out. Okay, but
1:24:41the parameters of blood sugar will be known in diabetics because it increases in them. Those who
1:24:45do not have diabetes will not be able to detect it. Gut it and this is especially for diabetics.
1:24:50Lokendra ji, I was just looking at the designing. The designing is very unique and different too.
1:24:56Yes, so I think you. You also know designing very well, I
1:25:01would like to know as a founder, how big a role designing plays for any brand.
1:25:06See, this is a communication, so we can design communication, so we
1:25:11are communicating through design, right, so I think, designing a product
1:25:17is communication. When it is sitting on the shelf and it is on your mobile phone, it
1:25:22communicates something about it. It itself that what is it or it speaks with the
1:25:27audience who are coming to buy them ji so people like you do that communication ji so
1:25:32like you do communication very well through your designs about the product so
1:25:37without speaking how will you communicate so I think
1:25:53the success of that product will not be that good agri so one component out of
1:25:58lot of other components one component e design Right Right 100% Right Lokendra ji, you
1:26:05have made a very good product as far as I have understood the ingredients and everything and
1:26:10you also make people aware about it, you are so passionate about it, you have written a book
1:26:15also, so now after doing so much good, do you face any challenges in the business?
1:26:21At this stage, the challenges in the business are generally of growth, that is, how to
1:26:28grow from here to 5X10. How to take a Next growth because what
1:26:33is going on is all going well, so finding new avenues of growth, so that
1:26:39the expanding from the comfort zone, it seems a little bit that it seems that
1:26:45Shud We do Shud
1:26:51V Not Do Do
1:26:55Boot Strap Sale Funded And I Have a Vision
1:27:00for the Next 50 Years for Myself I'd Like to Know That Please So Me One I
1:27:07Don't Have Any Retirement Theory I Don't Believe in Retirement So Till the End of the Day
1:27:13and the Day I Die I'd Like to Work I Don't Want Any
1:27:17Retirement Two What
1:27:23to give it back So diabetes is a way of giving back to the
1:27:27society For me business is social service So when it is a social service I should give
1:27:32the best product to my consumer I should treat my employees in a best manner that
1:27:37wherever they are working, their life should be good because they are part of everything and whoever
1:27:43are the investors or bankers who are associated with us should get benefits
1:27:48. I believe that social business is a win win situation so that is our theory and
1:27:54secondly the attitude of serving should be that we are serving the community
1:27:59we are serving the government also because if you analyze the business the biggest
1:28:04expense is taxes in the business 30 yes so the biggest expense almost understand this
1:28:11Of your gross sales, around 20% goes to the government. In terms
1:28:16of taxes and all but government is the partner. Think about it, if there is no government,
1:28:20how will you do business? Agreed, if there is no government, you will
1:28:25not be able to do business. What business will you do in hooliganism? So government is required,
1:28:29rather than saying that government is bad, no, it is the need of the business. You know a good regulation,
1:28:35today you have created a brand and no one else can copy that because
1:28:40there is government, there are rules, no, you gave goods to someone, he
1:28:45did not pay, then you go to the government, he did not give my payment, then you need
1:28:50government, absolutely, government is partner in your business, so we must respect
1:28:56that government is also part of the business. Customer is part of business, he is helping
1:29:01you to grow in return, we have to help him, we are so when we have social contact,
1:29:06so everybody is amazing in business,
1:29:25it is very nice to know everything from starting till now, whatever you
1:29:30have shared with us, feeling very motivated, also sitting in front of you
1:29:34and a lot of knowledge about diabetes, well, I did not know how, what things
1:29:38should be eaten. You should not go into such depth. You shared all the things
1:29:42with us. Very happy and thank you for giving your precious time to us. Thank you.
1:29:47I am so happy. I met you, you are such lovely people and I am amazed what kind of team you
1:29:53are so perfectly aligned and working together. I think a lot to learn from you. It is
1:29:59a pleasure really thank you. We also have a Let's learn especially one thing that is very rare in general
1:30:05that a couple is still running a business from start to end
1:30:10and we met ma'am, they support you in everything
1:30:18and even when you were gathered together, so it is very beautiful to see ma'am's
1:30:23basic responsibilities as well, how they help you, see which means
1:30:28as a business philosophy because when you are working. In Business Husband and Wife
1:30:33Together So when we got married and before that when we met so we had a common goal okay
1:30:41together we set down and decided a common goal in life that this is what we have to achieve so
1:30:46it was not two different things it was one thing so when we are working business we
1:30:51are working towards that one common goal so if me and my wife we are constantly 24
1:30:57Hours of the day we are together We are together at home,
1:31:02we are together in the office, we go to the factory together, we go together in the morning, we go to the gym
1:31:06together, it is almost 24 hours we are together and how we can be together if we
1:31:11don't have a common goal. Agreed, first of all, common goal is very important and second, the
1:31:16important part in the theory of couple doing business is respect some times they
1:31:24work. Together But One Partner Dozen Respect Another So Respecting is another important
1:31:30part of what is needed If you don't respect you won't grow Right
1:31:36is Right and Giving Space to Grow and Think About Each Other So There Are Lots of
1:31:42Things So We Don't Fight Because We Decided Not
1:31:49to Fight Why We Should Fight If We Want Let's do
1:31:54it if there is something let's discuss if still you want to do let's do
1:32:00it so so we made a rule we don't fight nice I think everyone should make this rule
1:32:07and follow this also or making rules is easy so breaking follows
1:32:15difficult generally when you have goal together then things become easy Let's say there
1:32:22are two people in the couple one this He wants to be the one, he wants to be then how will life be settled,
1:32:28will not be able to balance, they have to come together to live good life, so that is the life partner, you know
1:32:34his partner in the life, there is life goal, there is a life partner and there is a life
1:32:38to live right, it is very beautiful, so right now, they are not there among you because they like this
1:32:45argument or you have divided the responsibilities like this. Responsibility:
1:32:51You should understand that Nishu Madam looks after art and commerce and I look after science.
1:32:58So, whatever science component in the business is related to production, whether it
1:33:05is new product development or new content creation or reaching out to the people, then
1:33:11the work of science is mine, the work of commerce and art is theirs, so what
1:33:15will go on social media, what will be the designing, how will the financial reporting be done, they
1:33:21do all these things, the training part is mine. That is having vision training the employees you know
1:33:26showing them the vision what type of work we will do so I am futuristic and she
1:33:32takes care of the day to day work OK so this is how we both work together I think more I
1:33:39read more I do less work less day to day I don't work much she works she takes care of
1:33:44The business is so most of the time I am reading and sitting thinking something so my work
1:33:51means day to day evolution is less she is the business is ok amazing ts very nice so now
1:33:57ty baxi like it is online right yes la so are you planning to take it offline also
1:34:04yes we are recently we are working on the things to launch in a very short period of
1:34:11time in the retail market so we will B visiting the consultant and other people are
1:34:16evolved in the health care industry so making them aware about da baxi the
1:34:21product what are the benefits now related to the divex flour mainly so that will be the
1:34:27next phase of the growth which will come so till now what we had to create the base so we
1:34:32have createddrawarnavigator
1:34:54s I said we don't have Retirement option of people that brother business grew big
1:34:58by selling weevil chill out some where we chill out in office so when I'm at work I
1:35:05like it's great so it was a pleasure talking
1:35:10to you and understanding in detail about diabetes about business life and also how
1:35:17to manage your personal relationship with business so thank you so much for giving your precious time
1:35:23and we wish Dr Baxi a huge huge success thank you so much sir thank you for having me
1:35:29here and I like the chemistry both of you have the way you put questions and the way you
1:35:34try to understand I think there are very few people who really want to learn and
1:35:40I like the curiosity you have and the ability and willingness to learn is so great
1:35:46with you guys thank you sir you spoke so well about us Finally what advice would you like to give to our audience
1:35:51about business health and everything see let me
1:35:58come in that design is a contact because you are in that industry what makes a great
1:36:06design what makes a great design so there are a lot of components or a placement color
1:36:15font picture you need to do everything at the right place in the right size only then a
1:36:21great design is created isn't it just like yours Life is if you want success then
1:36:27everything needs to be in the right place. Now as we said what is important for success
1:36:33so first of all how do you look? What is your dressing sense? So that
1:36:40dressing. So I learned all these things in my life like Brian Tracy I said
1:36:45he was wonderful author I learned from him so
1:36:50he said once I was reading and he wrote Thapo of Shining Shoes in a
1:36:54business meeting when we go. To meet someone, if your shoes are signed, give you a better
1:36:59impression, then how to shine the shoes, I did not teach in the classroom, so I
1:37:04sat near Moz for two days, I asked him how to sign the shoes, what is your technique,
1:37:09he has different brushes, there are four to five types of them, you will see that when a shoe is polished,
1:37:14he does not do it with one brush, he does it with three or four brushes, so each brush
1:37:18has its own importance, so I learned. How do you walk?
1:37:23How do you walk? How do you walk? How do you walk? How do you walk? How
1:37:30do you walk? How do you walk? How do you walk? How do you walk? How do you walk? How do you walk? How do you walk
1:37:36? How do you walk? How do you walk? How do you talk to people? How do you walk? How do you walk? How do you walk?
1:37:41How do you walk? How do you walk? How do you walk? How do you talk to people?
1:37:48How to write, you have to learn everything, so every little thing we
1:37:55have to learn, like we said about designing, if you do not know color psychology then
1:38:00how will you create a good design, color creates kind of emotion in your
1:38:05mind, so then you will associate it with the product, this is how your life is, every buddy is
1:38:10a salesman and if you don't know how to sell, you cannot progress and to become a good
1:38:16salesman first. You need to be a presentable salesman agri so first so grooming
1:38:24this I think everything will sum up a grooming so grooming is one part of
1:38:28business success we should know how to groom and then
1:38:32lot of other thing I am from science background but I have also learned tele,
1:38:35also learned accounting and took tuitions from them so I learned every part of the business
1:38:42which can be important for success I don't do accounting, nor do I write, but
1:38:47I know the basic concept that it can be done in this way. I am
1:38:52aware that business would be like biscuits, now I am from pharma background, so
1:38:59tablets, capsules, injection creams, all these are taught in the college to make good
1:39:03creams, good injections, how to make all these, how to make them sterile, but
1:39:08these biscuits and namkeens which you are clearly seeing, we learned this, I have also done a course on this,
1:39:11ok, let me tell you one interesting thing once. I just searched on the internet that
1:39:17Brother, this was some bakery course, they were teaching how to make biscuits, so
1:39:21I called and said, I want to enroll, do you teach how to make biscuits?
1:39:26They said no, this is only women's class, we don't teach men, well, so I said,
1:39:32what's the point in teaching, whoever wants to learn, we teach. They said no, we only teach women,
1:39:35we don't teach men, so then I found out, okay, it also happens that
1:39:40men teach women. They teach differently then found out that who is there who
1:39:43teaches men also? Okay so then I came to the institute which had courses which were
1:39:49teaching how to make these biscuits and all these, how to make cakes, so I learned
1:39:55that, so everything can be learned in this, that is why I mean, my foundation in life is this, you can
1:40:01become what you want just try to do that, you learn, you can do. It's doubly right so
1:40:08you are saying that it is very opposite to what many people say that you hire a team and you
1:40:15hire someone to do some work instead of you learning and doing it you are saying that you
1:40:21have to learn everything, whatever is important to you in the business, yes yes, I am
1:40:26not in it, that I don't know, everyone knows this because of the movement as a business owner, you
1:40:31don't Understand one component of the business You don't control you don't understand it Then
1:40:36you will always be fooled You should understand everything whether
1:40:41you do it or not But you should understand Got it Even if it is a financial deal but I
1:40:46should
1:40:53understand finance If
1:40:59I am dealing it financially The man is taking the decision based
1:41:04on your behavior, whether he is taking it right or not, so I believe that everything should come
1:41:09because it is not a short term thing. Once we had gone to such a conference,
1:41:13there used to be some bloggers there, the one who used to do blog writing, yes, yes, there
1:41:19was a blogger, so till the time we met him, we had not come to the whole media etc., neither had we understood
1:41:25about this method, so he met us and we said, friend, tell us also. Said, friend, do one work,
1:41:31give me work, I will do it, it will take you three years to learn, I said three
1:41:36is too little, I have to work for 60 years, so
1:41:40I will learn in three years, you tell me, if someone says it will take a year, it is really short
1:41:46period of time solver, I am ready, then learning takes time, but we
1:41:52should be ready, it is a very unique approach, like you
1:41:57said three years, in my mind, three years are good but you take it, just learn for three years. It's fine,
1:42:02we have to work for 60 years, it's a very short time, we won't be crippled for the next 60 years,
1:42:07I'm not old for the next 60 years, I've learned it in a year, and I
1:42:14'll learn something else in the next three, I'll learn something else in the next three, everything is a learnable skill,
1:42:21that's very again that and a very unique perspective. Now I too am remembering a line, I
1:42:26had read in some book that you don't get old by age, you get old then. Happens when you
1:42:32stop learning Very true Very true Always stay young and keep learning You didn't even
1:42:38tell one more thing Lad we were going to end it here But one more thing came out when you
1:42:44said that you were in pharma You were a representative Right so I thought that you
1:42:49were in sales And something but just now you told that you were also taught to make medicines
1:42:54in college And all this too as they say in general There is a simple very generic question about medicines,
1:43:01that is, we should not take pain killers. If we have fever, we
1:43:07should not take its pills. We should avoid it. So, it is true that pain killers are
1:43:12really bad for our health. No, if you have short term requirement, then you
1:43:17should take them. There is no problem, but if you are taking pain killers every day, for the next six months,
1:43:22you will get damaged. Is there any such medicine which is very common among us? You should avoid it, but
1:43:28don't look, there is a problem in taking it regularly. Okay, sometimes if
1:43:33there is a need to take some medicine, then there is no problem in it, like there is thyroid, the daily dose of thyroid
1:43:37is enough, so the doctor says that you will have to take it, only then everything will be in balance. So what about
1:43:42that hormone of thyroid, it is created in our thyroid gland,
1:43:47so when we do not get nutrients and its requirement is more. So we
1:43:52have to create such an environment that firstly it has less need of thyroid hormone and secondly we
1:43:57should give such nutrients which help us in making thyroid hormone and the doses may either
1:44:02not be taken or even if it is taken, it may be taken in very minimum dose, which
1:44:08will help in long term or longer topic thyroid. It is a big topic by topic
1:44:15really because I am taking this from last 8. Year to year everyday I used to have that
1:44:21In the morning, so you have given the relief that medicine
1:44:25is not an enemy, obviously if we take it within limits and sometimes in emergency, the health
1:44:31care system is your friend, man is his own enemy.
1:44:38Okay thank you once again thank you again this again shirt knowledge is very
1:44:45helpful thank you thank you yes s Namaskar, after this conversation I
1:44:52am definitely going to bring small changes in my life and end I hope that this podcast
1:44:56is equally helpful for you and you
1:45:03can make your life, your health and the health of your dear ones better. For more such information episodes, please keep
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