Dennis Rader | The BTK Killer | Full Confession — Transcript
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- 0:32mr. Raider I need to find out more
- 0:36information on that particular day the
- 0:3915th day of January 1974 can you tell me
- 0:43where you went to kill mr. Joseph Otero
- 0:47hmm
- 0:481834 [ __ ] more all right can you tell
- 0:54me approximately what time of day you
- 0:56went there somewhere between 7:00 and
- 1:017:30 this particular location did you
- 1:04know these people
- 1:05well that's now that was part of my I
- 1:13guess my wish called fantasy these
- 1:16people were selected all right so you
- 1:22you were engaged in some kind of fantasy
- 1:25during this period of time yes sir all
- 1:28right now when you use the term fantasy
- 1:31is this something you were doing for
- 1:32your personal pleasure sexual fantasy
- 1:35sir I see so you went to this residence
- 1:39and what occurred
- 1:44I had get some thinking on what I was
- 1:49going to do to either missus apparel or
- 1:52Josephine and basically broke into the
- 1:56house or didn't break into the house but
- 1:58when they came out of the house I came
- 1:59in and confronted the family and then we
- 2:01went from there
- 2:02had you planned this beforehand just
- 2:06some degree yes I forgot in the house
- 2:09and lost control of it but it was you
- 2:13know back in my mind I had some ideas
- 2:15what I was going to do I just
- 2:18I basically panicked at the first day so
- 2:20beforehand did you know who was there in
- 2:23the house I thought mrs. Otero and the
- 2:26two kids the two younger kids were in
- 2:29the house I didn't realize mr O'Farrell
- 2:30is gonna be there all right how did you
- 2:33get into the house I kept in the back
- 2:35door cut the phone lines waited at the
- 2:38backdoor had reservations about even
- 2:41going or just walking away but bracing
- 2:43the door open and I was in alright so
- 2:46the door opened was it open for you two
- 2:49I think one of the kids I think the
- 2:52Tjuta
- 2:53junior or not junior yesterday the young
- 2:58girl Joseph opened the door he probably
- 3:00let the dog out
- 3:01is it August in the house at that time
- 3:03all right when you went into the house
- 3:05what happened then well I confronted the
- 3:08family pulled the pistol in front of mr.
- 3:11Otero and asked him to
- 3:15you know that I was there too basically
- 3:18I was wanted I wanted to get the car was
- 3:24hungry food I was wanted and asked him
- 3:27lie down in the living room and at that
- 3:31time I realized that wouldn't be a
- 3:32really good idea so I finally the dog
- 3:34was a real problem so I asked Mr
- 3:36O'Farrell if he could get the dog out so
- 3:37he had when the kids put it out I took
- 3:40them back to the bedroom took food back
- 3:43the family the bedroom for members what
- 3:47happened and at that time I tied him up
- 3:50while still holding him at gunpoint
- 3:52well in between trying I guess all right
- 3:57after you tie them up
- 3:59well they started complaining about
- 4:02being tied up and I reduce into bonds a
- 4:06couple of times tried to make mr
- 4:08O'Farrell as comfortable as I could
- 4:09apparently had a cracked rib from a car
- 4:12accident so I had him put a pillow down
- 4:15on me for his hand head he but a I think
- 4:18he Parker cope under beeping they talked
- 4:25to me about you know giving the car or
- 4:29whatever money I guess they didn't have
- 4:30very much money
- 4:33there I realized that you know I was
- 4:37already I didn't have a mask honoree
- 4:39thing they already could I he me and
- 4:43they'd have made a decision to go ahead
- 4:45and put him down I guess strangled
- 4:49alright what did you do to Joseph Otero
- 4:52see justice Otero Joseph Otero seen mr.
- 4:56Oh turn on the collar
- 4:57I put a plastic bag over his head and
- 5:00then some courts and tighten it this was
- 5:05in the bedroom yes sir
- 5:08did he in fact suffocate and die not
- 5:13right away
- 5:13no sir he didn't what happened well
- 5:17after that I I did mrs. Otero I had
- 5:21never strangled anyone before
- 5:23so I really don't know how much pressure
- 5:25he had been on a person or how long
- 5:27would it take
- 5:27but was she also tied up through yes
- 5:31yeah both their hands and their feet
- 5:33were tied up she was on the bed where
- 5:34were the children well Josephine was on
- 5:38the bed and jr. was on the floor this
- 5:42time so we're talking first of all about
- 5:45Joseph Otero so you'd put the bag over
- 5:48his head and tied it he did not die
- 5:51right away can you tell me what happened
- 5:53in regards to Joseph he moved over real
- 5:55quick like and I think pour a hole in
- 5:57the bag and I could tell that he was
- 5:58having some problems there but at that
- 6:01time the the whole family just went they
- 6:03went panicked on me so you work pretty
- 6:09quick well I mean I do i strangle mrs.
- 6:12Hill Terrell she went out or passed out
- 6:16I thought she was dead she passed out
- 6:18and I strangled Josephine
- 6:21she passed out or I thought she was dead
- 6:23and
- 6:25then I went over and put it and then put
- 6:28a bag on juniors head and and then I
- 6:35remember right missus Otero came back
- 6:42she came back and Terrell si Senor he
- 6:48had torn a hole in the back
- 6:50what'd you do with him then I put
- 6:53another bag over or eat that all right I
- 6:56recollect I think I put a either a cloth
- 6:59or a t-shirt or something over it over
- 7:03his head and in a bag another bag
- 7:06did he subsequently die well yes
- 7:09you know I mean I was I didn't just stay
- 7:12there and watch him then I was moved
- 7:14around the room all right so you
- 7:16indicated you strangled mrs. Otero after
- 7:19you had done this is that correct
- 7:22now I went back and strangled her again
- 7:26finally killed her so this is in regards
- 7:29to count two you need first of all put
- 7:31the bag over Joseph Otero head and he
- 7:35tore a hole in the back then you went
- 7:38ahead did you strangle mrs. Otero then
- 7:40okay first of all first of all mr. Otero
- 7:43was strangled or a bag fit over his head
- 7:46and strangled then I thought he was
- 7:48going down and I went over and strangled
- 7:51mrs. Otero I thought she was down then I
- 7:55strangled Josephine
- 7:58while she was down and then I went over
- 8:00to junior and put the bag on his head
- 8:04after that mrs. Hill Carol woke back up
- 8:07and you know she was pretty upset what's
- 8:11going on so I came back
- 8:14and at that point in time strangled her
- 8:16for the death strangle at that time with
- 8:19your hands know what the court with a
- 8:22with a rope and then I I think at that
- 8:26point in time I redid mr. Otero
- 8:28but the bag over his head went over and
- 8:32into junior before that she asked me to
- 8:36to save her son so I actually had taken
- 8:39a bag off and then I was really upset at
- 8:42that point in time
- 8:43so basically mr. Carroll was down mrs.
- 8:46O'Hara was done I went ahead and junior
- 8:50up in another bag over his head and took
- 8:51him to the other bedroom what did you do
- 8:54then but a bag of resented but a Quaffle
- 8:57resent a t-shirt and bags they couldn't
- 8:59care a hole in it he died from that you
- 9:04know I went back Josephine and walked
- 9:08back up what did you do that when I took
- 9:10her to the basement and eventually hung
- 9:16yes sir yes I I had some sexual
- 9:22fantasies but that was after she was
- 9:25home
- 9:27all right what did you do that might be
- 9:32the house and I cleaned it up it's
- 9:34called the right hand rule you go from
- 9:36river room pick your things up I think I
- 9:39took mr. careless watch I guess I took a
- 9:43radio I I forgot about that but
- 9:45apparently took a radio why did you take
- 9:48these things I don't know
- 9:56got the keys the car fact I had the keys
- 9:58I think earlier before that because I
- 9:59want to make sure I had a way of getting
- 10:01out of the house and clean the house up
- 10:04a little bit make sure everything's
- 10:05packed up and left through the front
- 10:07door and went there went over to their
- 10:12Park and then drove over to Dylan's left
- 10:16the car there in addition I walked back
- 10:18to my farm
- 10:19all right now sir from what you have
- 10:23just said I take it back you totally
- 10:29apply to both counts one all of the
- 10:32counts one two three and four is that
- 10:35correct yes sir
- 10:37now mr. Rader yes
- 10:44that is originally I believe he
- 10:45indicated 1834 edgeville address was
- 10:49actually three addresses
- 11:07all right mr. Raider we will now turn to
- 11:10count five in that count it is claimed
- 11:13that on or about the fourth day of April
- 11:151974 in Sedgwick County Kansas that you
- 11:19unlawfully killed Kathryn bright
- 11:21maliciously willfully deliberately and
- 11:25with premeditation by staring ulation
- 11:27and stabbing inflicting injuries from
- 11:29which she did die on April 4th 1974 can
- 11:33you tell me what occurred on that day I
- 11:43say that I had many what I call them
- 11:46projects they were different people in
- 11:48the town that I followed watched
- 11:50Kathleen Bryant was one of the next
- 11:52targets I guess I would indicate how did
- 11:55you select her just driving by one day
- 11:58and I saw her go in the house with
- 11:59somebody else and I thought that's a
- 12:01possibility there was many many places
- 12:04in the area College Hill had been there
- 12:07all over which table anyway that's it
- 12:08just with basically a selection process
- 12:10work toward it if it didn't work I just
- 12:12move on to something else but in my kind
- 12:16of personal
- 12:17stalking and scrolling you go through
- 12:19the trolling stage and then a stocking
- 12:21the stage she was in the stocking stage
- 12:22when this happened all right sir so you
- 12:26identified Kathryn bright as a potential
- 12:29victim yes sir what did you do here in
- 12:32Sedgwick County Beth Arden what did you
- 12:34do then here in Sedgwick County on this
- 12:36particular day yeah broke into the house
- 12:39and waited for her to come home how did
- 12:43you break into the house through the
- 12:44back door on the east side all right and
- 12:48waited for her to come home we'll just
- 12:50wait in the house they're probably close
- 12:52to the bedroom I walked it Allison
- 12:55figure out where I be if they came
- 12:57through all right what happened that she
- 13:00and Kevin Wright came in
- 13:03I wasn't expecting him to be there and
- 13:06come find out I guess they were related
- 13:08that time I approached him and told him
- 13:12I was wanted in California needed some
- 13:15are basically the same thing that I told
- 13:17him girls kind of make me feel better
- 13:20and proceeded to I think I had him tight
- 13:24I got had him tied her up first and then
- 13:27I tied him up or vice-versa I don't
- 13:29remember right now let me ask you you
- 13:32indicated you had some items to tie
- 13:35these people with you bring these items
- 13:37both the old Carol's in with this okay
- 13:39Charles I did I'm not really sure on
- 13:43them rights there was some when I
- 13:49haven't working with the police that
- 13:51were some controversy on that probably
- 13:53more likely I did if if I had brought my
- 13:58stuff and used my stuff
- 14:00Kevin would probably be dead today I'm
- 14:02not bragging on that it's just a matter
- 14:04of fact is the bonds I tied him up with
- 14:07he broke himself alright maybe same way
- 14:12with same with Catherine it was I got a
- 14:15gun on a hand
- 14:16alright now you indicated that you
- 14:18believe you had Kevin tie Catherine up
- 14:21tell me what happened okay
- 14:24I moved well after I really can't
- 14:27remember judged whether I had her tie
- 14:29him up or she tied him up but anyway I
- 14:31moved basically I moved her to another
- 14:33bedroom and he was already secure there
- 14:36by the bed tidy speak to the bedpost on
- 14:41the bedpost that he couldn't run
- 14:43kind of tied her in the other bedroom
- 14:45and then it came back to strangle him at
- 14:49that time we had a fight were you armed
- 14:51with the handgun at that time what
- 14:54happened actually had two handguns well
- 14:58I started strangling either the parent
- 15:02broke or he broke these bonds and he
- 15:04jumped up with quick like pull him I got
- 15:06him quickly shot it hit him in the head
- 15:09he fell over I can see the blood and as
- 15:13far as i concerned he you know I thought
- 15:14he was down was out and then started to
- 15:19strangle him
- 15:21Catherine and then we started fighting
- 15:25because bonds weren't very good
- 15:26and so acting forth we fought you and
- 15:30Catherine yeah we fought and I got the
- 15:34best of her and I thought she was going
- 15:35down and then I could hear some movement
- 15:37in the other room so I went back and
- 15:39Kevin no no I thought she was going down
- 15:43and I went back to the other bedroom
- 15:45where Kevin was there I tried to re
- 15:47strangle him at that time and he jumped
- 15:50up and we fought and he about at that
- 15:54time about shot me it's got the other
- 15:55pistol that was in my shoulder I have a
- 15:58magnum in my shoulder so it really is
- 16:02true mmm did you have a shoulder oh yes
- 16:04and I'm the head of Magnum the shoulder
- 16:05holsters the other one was a 22 and we
- 16:09fought at that point time and
- 16:11I was gonna go off I Jam the gun suck my
- 16:14finger in the vision in there damned it
- 16:16and I think he thought that was the only
- 16:19gun I had because once I either Betty's
- 16:21finger or hitting or something got away
- 16:23and I used the 22 and shot him one more
- 16:25time and I thought he was down for a
- 16:27good time all right so you shot him a
- 16:29second time yes sir what happened it
- 16:31went back to finish the job on Katherine
- 16:37and she was fighting and at that point
- 16:42in time I've been fighting her I just
- 16:44and then I heard some I don't know
- 16:46whether I was basically losing control
- 16:48the strangulation wasn't working on her
- 16:51and I used a knife on her say you used a
- 16:56knife on her yeah what did you do with
- 16:58the mine I stabbed dirt
- 16:59she said you just have two or three
- 17:01times either here or here maybe two back
- 17:04here and one here or maybe just two
- 17:06times here you were pointing to your
- 17:08lower back and underneath the ribs and
- 17:10your lower abdomen underneath the ribs
- 17:14so after you stabbed or what happened
- 17:17actually I think at that point in time
- 17:22well it's a total mess doesn't have
- 17:25control on it she was bleeding and she
- 17:27went down I think I just went back to
- 17:31check on Kevin or at that basically the
- 17:33same time I heard him make scared it
- 17:35could be one of the two all of a sudden
- 17:37the front door of the house was open and
- 17:39he was gone and oh I tell you what I
- 17:42thought I thought the police were coming
- 17:43at that time I heard the door open I
- 17:45thought that's it and I stepped out
- 17:47there and he I can see him running down
- 17:49the street so I quickly cleaned up
- 17:51everything that I could and well alright
- 17:54know mr. Rader you indicated that sdo
- 17:56Terrell she did not have a mask gun did
- 17:58you have a mask on right no all right so
- 18:04what happened then I tried to get the
- 18:07keys to the cars
- 18:10and I thought I had the right key to the
- 18:12right car and ran out of their car would
- 18:13I think it was up pick up up there and I
- 18:16tried it didn't work at that one time I
- 18:19was he was going to run down the street
- 18:21I thought well I'm in trouble
- 18:23so I try to getting work so I just took
- 18:25off rent went down went east and then
- 18:27work back toward the WSU campus where my
- 18:30car was perfect
- 18:31alright so you have parked your car for
- 18:33Wichita State and guess the kind of
- 18:35campus on how far away were was the
- 18:38bride dress
- 18:38oh I'm parked was at 13th and there see
- 18:46there they were on 13th was it 17 yeah I
- 18:49was four I was just about one block
- 18:51south of 17th where the car was there's
- 18:54a park there and then I walked to 13th
- 18:57through the breaks residence basically
- 19:00ran back all right so you were able to
- 19:03get to your car and get away yes sir
- 19:04cool let's turn to count number six in
- 19:09that count they claim on March 17th 1977
- 19:12in Sedgwick County Kansas that you
- 19:15unlawfully killed Shirley by an
- 19:17maliciously willfully deliberately and
- 19:21with premeditation by strangulation
- 19:23inflicting injuries from which she did
- 19:25by March 17th 1977 can you tell me what
- 19:29you did on that day yes before
- 19:32Dianne was a actually on that one
- 19:36she was completely random there was
- 19:40actually someone that across from
- 19:41Dylan's was potential target
- 19:44it was called Project Green I think I
- 19:46had project numbers assigned to
- 19:49and that particular day I drove at
- 19:52Dylan's parked in the parking lot
- 19:53watch this particular residence and then
- 19:55got out of the car and walked over to it
- 19:58it's probably the police report address
- 20:00I don't remember the address now knock
- 20:02nobody nobody answered it so I was all
- 20:05keyed up so I just started going through
- 20:08the neighborhood I've been into the
- 20:08neighborhood before I kind of knew a
- 20:10little little delay out of the
- 20:12neighborhood I've been through the back
- 20:14alleys new person certain people live
- 20:17while I was walking down hydraulic ask
- 20:24him if the ID some pictures kind of
- 20:28those arrests I guess or who sees you
- 20:29Pelican kind of feel it out saw where he
- 20:33went and I went to another address and
- 20:36knocked on the door nobody open the door
- 20:37so I just noticed where he went and with
- 20:40that Allison they call these projects
- 20:44with these sexual fantasies also
- 20:47potential hits so many projects hits all
- 20:56right and and why did you have these
- 20:57potential hits was this gratify some
- 21:00sexual interest yes sir just weave one
- 21:06didn't work out just move to another one
- 21:07so as I'm to understand it then on the
- 21:1117th of March 1977 you saw this little
- 21:13boy go into a residence and you tried
- 21:16another sermon was there you tried
- 21:19another residence no it was theirs I
- 21:21went to the residents with run portal
- 21:22and I watched I watched where he went
- 21:24what happened then after I tried this
- 21:27once the residents nobody came the door
- 21:28I went to this house where he went in
- 21:30knocked in the door and told him I was a
- 21:33private detective showed him a picture
- 21:35that had just showed the boy an estimate
- 21:37they could ID the picture and that time
- 21:40begun here and I just kind of forced
- 21:42myself here and I just walked in just
- 21:44open the door walk in and then pull it
- 21:46missile what gun with this 357 Magnum so
- 21:52you only have one gun yes sir
- 21:54what happened I told mrs. s plan that I
- 22:01had a problem with sexual fantasies that
- 22:04was going to tie her up and I might have
- 22:08to tie the kids up and she would
- 22:12cooperate with us cooperate with me at
- 22:14that time we went back she was extremely
- 22:16nervous I think she even smoked a
- 22:18cigarette and we went back to one of the
- 22:21back back areas the porch explained to
- 22:24her that I had done this before and I
- 22:27think she would at that point in time I
- 22:29think she was sick because she had a
- 22:30nitro bond I think I remember right she
- 22:32was she had been sick like I think she
- 22:34came out of the bedroom when I went in
- 22:36the house so anyway we went back to the
- 22:39her bedroom and I proceeded to tie the
- 22:41kids up started crying and got real
- 22:43upset so I said no this is not gonna
- 22:46work so we moved him to the bathroom she
- 22:48helped me and then I tied the door shut
- 22:51we put some toys and blankets and odds
- 22:54and ends in there for the kids make most
- 22:55comfortable is it good idea
- 22:57we tied one of the bathroom door shut so
- 23:00they couldn't open it and we show she
- 23:01went back to help me show the bed up
- 23:03against the other bathroom door and then
- 23:06I proceeded to tie her up she got sick
- 23:09threw up her glass of water comforted
- 23:14her a little bit
- 23:16and tied it up and then put black bag
- 23:19over her head and strangled her
- 23:20alright was this plastic bag also yes
- 23:24sir what could be wrong with that it was
- 23:28something I'm sure it was plastic bag
- 23:29yeah
- 23:30you see the bag over her head and
- 23:31strangled her what did you strangle her
- 23:33with I actually had think on that I had
- 23:36tied tighter legs to the bedpost and
- 23:38worked up with a rope all the way up and
- 23:40then what I had left over over so you
- 23:44use this rope to strangle yes I don't
- 23:46think I would think it's the same one
- 23:47that I tied her body with what happened
- 23:50that well the kids were really banging
- 23:53on the door hollering screaming and and
- 23:56then the telephone rang and they had
- 23:59talked about earlier that the neighbors
- 24:00gonna check on him so I cleaned
- 24:02everything up real quick like and got
- 24:03out of there went back into my car
- 24:05you say you cleaned everything well I
- 24:07mean put my stuff I had a briefcase
- 24:10whatever I had laying around the ropes
- 24:12tape cords so threw that in there but
- 24:14you know whatever I had that I brought
- 24:17in the house and you brought that to the
- 24:19bride residence also now there are some
- 24:23there I think there's the basic stuff
- 24:25that I don't remember bringing total
- 24:27stuff like I did to some of the others
- 24:31prepared yeah
- 24:33yes I called my good kid all right sir
- 24:37you left the Vian residence and had to
- 24:42park your vehicle new that's still in
- 24:43the same parking lot they're villains at
- 24:45hydraulic and
- 24:49Harry Lincoln Lincoln Lincoln Lincoln in
- 24:53hydraulic all right in count 7 it is
- 24:57plain that on the 8th day of December
- 24:591977 Suffolk County Kansas that you and
- 25:02lawfully killed a human being that being
- 25:04Nancy Fox maliciously willfully
- 25:06deliberately and with premeditation by
- 25:10strangulation inflicting injuries from
- 25:12which the said Nancy Fox did die on
- 25:14December 8 1977 can you tell me what you
- 25:18did on that day here in Sedgwick at
- 25:21Nancy Fox was another one of the
- 25:23projects when I was trolling the area I
- 25:28noticed her going the house 1 9 in any
- 25:34way put her down as potential victim let
- 25:37me ask you one thing mr. Rader you used
- 25:39that firm when you were patrolling the
- 25:41area what do you mean by that it's
- 25:44called stalking or trolling so you were
- 25:47not working in any form or fashion
- 25:50well most I know if you've read much
- 25:54about serial killers they go through
- 25:55that they call the different phases
- 25:57that's one of the phases they go through
- 25:59as a as a trolling stage you're late
- 26:01basically you're looking for a victim at
- 26:03that time and that you could be trolling
- 26:05for months or years but once you lock in
- 26:08on a certain person you become stalking
- 26:10and that might be several of them but
- 26:11you really pull me in on that person
- 26:13they basically come the
- 26:27all right no no I wasn't working sir all
- 26:30right
- 26:30no this was this was off off my hours
- 26:34all right so you basically identified
- 26:38Nancy boxes one of your projects what
- 26:42happened then
- 26:43at first she was spotted and then I did
- 26:47a little homework I dropped by wants to
- 26:49check the mailbox see what her name was
- 26:52found out where she worked
- 26:55it's not by there once hillsboro kind of
- 26:59sliced her up by the more I knew about a
- 27:02person the more I felt comfortable with
- 27:04it so I did that a couple of times and
- 27:06then I just selected tonight which was
- 27:09just for tonight
- 27:10try it can you tell me what you did on
- 27:15the night of December 8th 1977 about two
- 27:18or three blocks away I parked my car and
- 27:20walked to that residence knocked at the
- 27:23knocked at the door first and make sure
- 27:25to see if anybody was in there because I
- 27:26knew she arrived home at a particular
- 27:28time from where she worked I nobody
- 27:31answered the door so I went around the
- 27:32back the house up the phone lines I
- 27:35could tell that there wasn't anybody in
- 27:36the North apartment broke in and waited
- 27:41for her to come home in the kitchen all
- 27:44right did she come home
- 27:45yes she did what happened I confronted
- 27:48her told her there I was a head of
- 27:51problem sexual problems that I would
- 27:53have to tire up and have sex with her
- 27:58she was a little upset we talked for a
- 28:02while she smoked a cigarette while while
- 28:06we spoke to her I went through her purse
- 28:08identifying some stuff she finally said
- 28:12well let's get this over with so I go
- 28:13call the police I said okay she said can
- 28:16I go to the bathroom I said yes she went
- 28:19the bathroom came and I told her to make
- 28:22sure that she was undressed when she
- 28:26came out i handcuffed her and really
- 28:31amber you handcuffed her you had a pair
- 28:34of handcuffs yes sir what happened well
- 28:38I had her i handcuffed her had a lay on
- 28:39the bed and then I tied her feet and I
- 28:44was also undressed to certain degree and
- 28:47then I got on top of her and then
- 28:50reached took either either a feet were
- 28:53tired or not tied me when I took I think
- 28:55I had a belt I picked the belt and then
- 28:57strangled her where the belt at that
- 28:58time
- 29:00all right after you had strangled or
- 29:03what happened
- 29:04okay after I strangled with a belt I put
- 29:07the belt off and retied them with
- 29:08pantyhose real tight remove the
- 29:11handcuffs and tied those with with
- 29:15pantyhose can't remember the colors
- 29:17right now I think I may be retied her
- 29:20feet what they had no they were probably
- 29:22tied her feet work and at that time
- 29:26masturbated sir had you had sexual
- 29:30relations with her now no no I color I
- 29:33was but I did not so you masturbated
- 29:36then what did you do
- 29:38dressed and then went through the house
- 29:40and took someone for personal items and
- 29:42I clean the house up what threw it make
- 29:44checked everything and then all right
- 30:13[Music]
- 30:18903 I sure know I know it's on Persian
- 30:22version that's all I don't hear which of
- 30:24the nine is nine something serve either
- 30:26no digits the address as I said it's
- 30:32really not important as long as you
- 30:33remember it happened here in Wichita
- 30:35simply counting yes all right sir let's
- 30:38turn to count eight in count eight it is
- 30:41claimed the honor about the 27th today
- 30:44is April 1985 to the 28th bit April 1985
- 30:49in Sedgwick County Kansas it is claimed
- 30:52that you unlawfully killed a human being
- 30:54marine edge maliciously willfully
- 30:57deliberately Andrew meditation by
- 31:00strangulation inflicting injuries from
- 31:02which marine hedge did die on April 27th
- 31:051985 can you tell me what occurred on
- 31:08that day well actually kind of like the
- 31:12others she was chosen through the
- 31:16different phases stocking face and since
- 31:19she'd lived down the street from me I
- 31:21could watch coming going quite easily on
- 31:25a particular day died
- 31:28[Music]
- 31:31the commitment came back from that
- 31:33commitment parked my car over at
- 31:37[Music]
- 31:38Woodlawn and 21st Street at bowling
- 31:42alley there at that time before that I
- 31:46dressed until I had some other clothes
- 31:48on I changed clothes and went to bowling
- 31:49alley I went in there the presense of
- 31:53bowling called a taxi had a taxi taking
- 31:56me out into the park city had my kid
- 31:58with me there's a bowling bag that's
- 32:01Park City and Sedgwick County all right
- 32:04you had the taxi take you to Park City
- 32:06what happened then there I asked I
- 32:08pretended that I was a little drunk I
- 32:10just I just took some beer worst around
- 32:13my mouth and the guy could probably
- 32:15smell alcohol on me I asked told him to
- 32:17let me out so I could get some fresh air
- 32:18and I walked from where the taxi let me
- 32:20out for her took her house all right
- 32:23where does she lived 60 to wake you
- 32:30fifty-four 62-54 62-54 well north
- 32:36independence alright when you walked
- 32:38over there what happened next well as
- 32:42before I was going to have sexual
- 32:44fantasies so I brought my hip kit and lo
- 32:48and behold her car was there about t
- 32:50she's not supposed to be home so I very
- 32:53carefully snuck into the house and like
- 32:55a cat burglar and after checking the
- 32:57house she wasn't there
- 32:58so about that time the doors rattled so
- 33:04when in fact one of the bedrooms had
- 33:06hidden back there or in the bedrooms she
- 33:09came in with a male visitor they were
- 33:11there for maybe an hour or so he left
- 33:15I waited till wee hours of morning and
- 33:19then proceeded to sneak into her bedroom
- 33:21and put the lights on work took like or
- 33:24I think the bathroom lights I just
- 33:25thought he want to flip her lights on
- 33:26and she screamed and jumped on the bed
- 33:29and strangled her manually all right now
- 33:33were you wearing any kind of disguise or
- 33:35mask at this time no no you indicated
- 33:38this woman lived down the street from
- 33:40you did she know you casually we walked
- 33:43by and wave she she'd like to work in
- 33:46her yard as well as I like to work there
- 33:47just a neighborly type thing it wasn't
- 33:49anything personal I mean just a neighbor
- 33:51all right so she was in her bed when you
- 33:54turn on the lights in the back out of
- 33:56the bathroom so I get some light in
- 33:58there what did you do that I manually
- 34:00strangled her when she started to scream
- 34:02she used your hands yes sir
- 34:05and you strangled her did she die yes
- 34:07all right what did you do that after
- 34:10that since I was in the sexual fantasy I
- 34:14went
- 34:15and stripped her and probably went ahead
- 34:19and I'm not sure if I tied her up at
- 34:20that point in time but anyway she was
- 34:23noon I put her on a blanket went through
- 34:26her purse some personal items in the
- 34:27house I figured out how I was gonna get
- 34:30her out of there
- 34:31eventually moved her to the trunk of the
- 34:34car uh took the car over to Christ
- 34:39Lutheran Church this is what the older
- 34:41church and I have picked some pictures
- 34:45of her all right you took some
- 34:48photographs or a kind of camera to use
- 34:50now poor lord did you keep those
- 34:54photographs yes the police probably did
- 34:57all right
- 34:58what happened that was it that went took
- 35:02she went through I tied it she was
- 35:05already dead so I took pictures of her
- 35:07in different forms of bondage and that's
- 35:10probably what got me in trouble with a
- 35:12bunch of things so anyway that's the
- 35:14probably the main thing but anyway after
- 35:17that I moved her back out to the car and
- 35:20then we went east on 53rd all right what
- 35:24occurred then sir what happened then
- 35:27Oh trying to find a place to hide her
- 35:29find the body did you find a place
- 35:32yes yes it didn't work couldn't tell you
- 35:36without looking at map that it was on
- 35:3853rd between Greenwich maybe maybe
- 35:41that's what's
- 35:45we have wings I think the Queen Wed and
- 35:48webbed hands ring which I found a ditch
- 35:50a low place on the north side of the
- 35:53road and hid her there all right you say
- 35:56you hid her there whether some ever some
- 35:57trees some brush and I laid that over
- 36:00the top of her body all right so you
- 36:01removed the body from the car put her in
- 36:03the ditch then laid some some brush over
- 36:06the Melissa all right sir in count nine
- 36:09it is claimed honor about the 16th day
- 36:12of September 1986 in century County
- 36:16Kansas that you unlawfully killed a
- 36:18human being
- 36:19vicki wegerle maliciously willfully
- 36:22deliberately and with premeditation by
- 36:25strangulation infecting injuries from
- 36:28which she said vicki wegerle did die on
- 36:31september 16 1986 can you tell me what
- 36:35you did here in such we counting on that
- 36:37day that makes you believe you are
- 36:38guilty yes again vicki was apparently
- 36:42was another potential victim I went
- 36:44through those different phases locked in
- 36:46on her as I would call it and decided
- 36:49that I would try that date I used a ruse
- 36:52as a telephone repairman to get in their
- 36:54house drove there in my own personal car
- 36:58around lunchtime moving lunch hour there
- 37:02approximately that time it was early
- 37:03morning that and looked like I actually
- 37:07went somewhere else and changed changed
- 37:09my clothes what I call my get clothes
- 37:14clothes he closed up basically different
- 37:17you know things that I need to get rid
- 37:19of later not same kind of clothes a head
- 37:21on
- 37:23on what other better word use it crime
- 37:25clothes or hit clothes I just won't get
- 37:28close
- 37:30anyway I walk from a car as a telephone
- 37:33repairman as I walk there at dawn the
- 37:36telephone helmet I had a briefcase
- 37:38went to one other address just to kind
- 37:40of size up the house I'd walk by it a
- 37:42couple times but I wanted to check it a
- 37:43little bit more as I approached it I
- 37:46could hear a piano sound yeah with this
- 37:49other door knocked on it Mottola knows
- 37:51we were recently working on telephone
- 37:53repairs an area with the heard not for
- 37:58the door and asked her if I could come
- 37:59check her telephone lines inside did she
- 38:01allow you in yes she did what happened I
- 38:04went over and found out where the
- 38:06telephone was simulated that was
- 38:08checking the telephone I had a
- 38:09make-believe instrument and after she
- 38:14was looking away a juror a pistol at her
- 38:16and asked her if she'd go back to the
- 38:17bedroom with me this is a 357 magazine
- 38:21you know this was a different one I
- 38:25asked her to go back to the bedroom with
- 38:27you have to draw on a pistol on yes sir
- 38:29what happened then
- 38:31I told her we went back to bedroom which
- 38:32I was gonna have to tie her up she was
- 38:34very upset and I think we used some
- 38:40material that was in that that's another
- 38:43thing I'm not sure but I think I use the
- 38:45material that they had in their bedroom
- 38:47and after a tighter hands she broke that
- 38:50and we started fighting and we fought
- 38:53quite a bit back and forth she was
- 38:55physically fighting you oh yes sir what
- 38:58happened finally got the hand on her
- 39:00they've got a nylon sock and started
- 39:02strangling
- 39:03you wrap this stocking around her neck
- 39:06yes what happened I finally gained the
- 39:09game daughter and third down and I
- 39:11thought she was dead but apparently she
- 39:13wasn't after after she was down and not
- 39:17moving anymore I rearranged her clothes
- 39:19a little bit and took some quick photos
- 39:21I think three of them remember and then
- 39:25after that I was a lot of commotion she
- 39:29can mention some about her husband
- 39:30coming home so I got out there pretty
- 39:32quick the dogs were raising a lot of
- 39:34cane in the back doors the windows were
- 39:37all to the house a lot of noise when we
- 39:39were fighting Maya left pretty quickly
- 39:41after that
- 39:41but everything the briefcase and had her
- 39:43I don't worry gone through her purse and
- 39:45got the keys to the car and use their
- 39:47car for my getaway car alright now you
- 39:49indicate that you thought that she was
- 39:51dead just ever late of the shootings not
- 39:53dead yes I guess the paramedics arrived
- 39:56and they tried to attempt to reliever
- 39:59and that failed she died there the
- 40:02hospital or at the hospital I don't
- 40:04recollect but she later found out that
- 40:06she did die as she was out of your
- 40:08strangulation yes sir let's turn to
- 40:13count 10 in that cat has claimed that
- 40:16honor about the 18th day of January 1991
- 40:20to the 819 pig and where 1991 in the
- 40:24county of Sedgwick state of Kansas that
- 40:27you did then in there unlawfully kill
- 40:29human being that being divorced e Davis
- 40:31maliciously willfully deliberately and
- 40:35with premeditation by strangulation
- 40:37inflicting injuries from which the said
- 40:39the Lord's heed Davis did die on January
- 40:4319 1991
- 40:45mr. Rader please tell me what you did
- 40:47here in Sedgwick County Kansas on that
- 40:49day that makes you believe you were
- 40:50guilty and that particular day I have
- 40:53some commitments left those went to one
- 40:57place changed my clothes went to another
- 41:00place
- 41:01park my car finally made arrangements on
- 41:04my kit kit my clothes and then walked to
- 41:07that residence after spending some time
- 41:11at that residence very cold at night had
- 41:15reservations about going in they I had
- 41:19cased the place before and I really
- 41:20can't figure out how to get in and she
- 41:22was in the house so I finally just
- 41:24selected a concrete block and through
- 41:28through the plate-glass window on the
- 41:29east and came on in where's this
- 41:31residence locally it's on hillside but I
- 41:34couldn't give the address I know it's
- 41:36probably 61 probably 62 something on 62
- 41:39something north or south north all right
- 41:44so you used a concrete block to break
- 41:46the window plate glass window patio door
- 41:48what happened that noise I just went in
- 41:52she came out of the bedroom and thought
- 41:54that a car could hit her house and I
- 41:57told her that I was I used the roofs of
- 41:59the thing wanted I was on the run at a
- 42:02food car warmth warm up and then I asked
- 42:07her a handcuffed her and kind of talk to
- 42:10her told her that I would like to get
- 42:12some food get her keys her car and kind
- 42:16of rest to serve you know what talked
- 42:18with her a little bit and calmed her
- 42:19down a little bit
- 42:21and then eventually I checked I think
- 42:25she was still handcuffed I went back and
- 42:28checked out where the car was simulated
- 42:31getting some food odds and ends in the
- 42:33house but I like I was leaving they went
- 42:36back and removed her handcuffs and then
- 42:39tied her up and then it eventually
- 42:42strangled her you say eventually
- 42:45strangled well after I tied her up and
- 42:47went through some things in the room
- 42:49there and then and then strangled her
- 42:55what's a personal I insist I take some
- 42:57personal items from there if you take
- 42:59personal items in every one of these
- 43:01incidents I get on the hedge and
- 43:07everything at Vicki's place they upped
- 43:11arrows we got the watch in the radio I
- 43:14don't think I did it in bright glance no
- 43:19I don't think so
- 43:20Fox yes I put some things from Fox those
- 43:22hit and miss all right but I'm probably
- 43:25even with Eva's control situation where
- 43:27I had more time I took something but if
- 43:30it was a confusion and other things I
- 43:33didn't I was trying to get out there
- 43:34all right so in regard for the Davis
- 43:36matter you went around the room took a
- 43:38few personal things what did you do then
- 43:41strangled her what did you strangle her
- 43:43with pantyhose
- 43:46kind of like mrs. edge I already figured
- 43:50out my I had a you know plan on leaving
- 43:53and put her in a blanket and drive her
- 43:55to the car put her in the trunk of the
- 43:57car we were able to strangle her to
- 43:59death with these panels yes sir all
- 44:01right put her in her car
- 44:03they performed the trunk of the car what
- 44:06happened I really had a commitment I
- 44:11needed to go to so I moved her to one
- 44:14spot took her out of her car this gets
- 44:18complicated then the stuff I had clothes
- 44:23gun whatever I cooked up to another spot
- 44:26in her car dump that off okay
- 44:31then took her car back to her house left
- 44:38that
- 44:42okay in the interim I took her car back
- 44:47to her house and interim I realized that
- 44:48I had lost one like guns I dropped it
- 44:51somewhere so I was he started trying to
- 44:54figure out where my gun was so I went
- 44:56back in the house realized I had dropped
- 44:57it when I went into when I broke the
- 44:59plate glass window it dropped and fell
- 45:01on the floor right there and I found it
- 45:02right there so that's all that problem
- 45:04anyway I went back out through the keys
- 45:06check the car real quick like and threw
- 45:09the keys up on top of the roof of her
- 45:11house
- 45:11walk from her car back to my car took my
- 45:17car drove it back and I either dropped
- 45:20more stuff off or I picked her up and
- 45:23put them in my car and then I drove up
- 45:26north east of Sedgwick County and
- 45:28dropped her off underneath the bridge
- 45:34so all of these incidents these 10
- 45:37counts occurred because you wanted to
- 45:39satisfy sexual fantasies actor yes
- 45:44there's any party desire any further
- 45:48matters be put on the record this time
- 45:51no your honor
- 45:55I will find that you Dennis L Rader have
- 46:01knowingly intelligently and voluntarily
- 46:03waived your constitutional rights an
- 46:06integer pleas of guilty I will find that
- 46:09you understand the nature of the charges
- 46:11and the consequences of your pleas based
- 46:14upon your statements to the court I will
- 46:16find there are factual basis for each of
- 46:18these pleas of guilty
- 46:19I will accept these pleas of guilty and
- 46:22a judge you Dennis L Rader guilty of
- 46:25murder in the first degree in count one
- 46:27a Class A felony murder in the first
- 46:30degree in count two a Class eight felony
- 46:32murder in the first degree in count
- 46:35three a Class A felony murder in the
- 46:39first degree in count four a Class A
- 46:41felony murder in the first degree in
- 46:44count five a Class A felony murder in
- 46:47the first degree in count six a Class A
- 46:50felony murder in the first degree in
- 46:52count seven a Class A felony murder in
- 46:55the first degree in count eight a Class
- 46:57A felony murder in the first degree in
- 47:00count nine a Class A felony and murder
- 47:03in the first degree in count 10 a Class
- 47:06A felony
- 47:09later he desires to anything in your own
- 47:12behalf and mitigation money
- 47:14Your Honor sacred County victus do
- 47:20realize the promise of committed crime
- 47:31that is continued if the Sedgwick County
- 47:34is a monster brought the community my
- 47:41family the victims dishonor snow and
- 47:47it's all of a self-similar called I
- 47:50would call the sexual predator
- 47:52today is my final judgment for meeting
- 47:56with aggravation presented by the state
- 48:01the PowerPoint presentation for very
- 48:03powerful
- 48:05a couple things I might point out for us
- 48:08but overall most of that is true and
- 48:12they think the second County I'd be
- 48:15proud to think do you have a good state
- 48:18evidence massara their DNA lucky there's
- 48:24nobody knows me now this
- 48:30if we're most responsibility in
- 48:33corrections concepts of apology the
- 48:39olive native started whatever post
- 48:42factor that's sexual predator the
- 48:45volcano was the feeling all those years
- 48:47was the up Terrell they're probably the
- 48:50most devastating said he won't meet
- 48:54anybody is just think I just don't know
- 49:01self-centered selfish continued all
- 49:10phenomena dishonesty definitely
- 49:15dishonestly probably first thing to the
- 49:17people that I encountered that he
- 49:21trusted NATO's window fine I'll take
- 49:24your money and need and then I kill them
- 49:27that's dishonest take my family
- 49:32[Music]
- 49:34[Applause]
- 49:35[Music]
- 49:40have wide cheese to these self interest
- 49:43on lawyers into the county very
- 49:47community pride little responsibility
- 49:57yes I had project done some degree in
- 50:00Franklin to that is the media they seem
- 50:04to attention of the media years that
- 50:07this quite presentation during the
- 50:10presentation and archives and you can
- 50:12understand them in hey bottom line of
- 50:17the old is a selfish very just
- 50:22associated with with society softener
- 50:27[Music]
- 50:33Dickens wrote some notes down I don't
- 50:41know if this is really for not yeah
- 50:44these things came along Facebook because
- 50:46I didn't I knew people don't know why I
- 50:49chose that I'd share some place
- 50:55clean white and I hope I don't feel on
- 50:59the media because I didn't use some of
- 51:02this from the video because I didn't
- 51:03know this must movie
- 51:05yeah she's been finding the grandparents
- 51:08farm well I did too was a kid needing
- 51:12any money every step I took she got me
- 51:18sooner
- 51:19I was in high school two years walk the
- 51:24halls of the SI wine shared make the
- 51:28same teachers all the way live it over
- 51:31she walking : just like that in a fella
- 51:35job is anybody would try to you know
- 51:41water
- 51:45stainless she loved animals
- 51:50I looked at having to control I do I
- 51:52said years it has some really handles
- 51:56I think they asked Park City or anything
- 52:01they'd ever say I was always bukit and
- 52:03it's like I have a grateful on this
- 52:05ramen so I have pets but I know she had
- 52:08it and I read somewhere she had her last
- 52:10Christmas
- 52:15yeah
- 52:16that if you that was a lot of fun
- 52:20good afternoon
- 52:23Nancy Fox seen as a wonderful person
- 52:27if I did track her this little better
- 52:32luckily anyway nice hard worker
- 52:41hitch she's a neighbor I walked by wave
- 52:48to my lovely garden flowers she can in
- 52:53church the same fierce attitude place
- 52:57gets excessive hotel with an Air Force I
- 53:02was an Air Force keeps a husband I was
- 53:05accustomed party always want to be
- 53:09applauded always had a fascination with
- 53:10their or the nominees he was a fine
- 53:13haven't even thought about taking
- 53:15private business in a different are
- 53:20threads were close Fiona Carol this wild
- 53:26life my wife raise kids and she also
- 53:31worked in common she also think
- 53:35[Music]
- 53:41we're gonna walk like I plug that age
- 53:44for details
- 53:46she's ready for it I like that for just
- 53:50like after all I like to go someone
- 53:54mission that she would like a piece of
- 53:55hot
- 53:56okay.come Silverstone who you can go to
- 54:04it was just like me at one time
- 54:06Dolly's again that comes from people a
- 54:27lot of memories as a kid my pets
- 54:31what a dog is it she's choir
- 54:43probably a variable one another and I
- 54:46took her life probably a lot of people I
- 54:50didn't know Vicki by him very much
- 54:52oh boy I walk my replacin Felicity I
- 54:55appreciate music this one thing I always
- 54:57wanted one was piano and I think she's
- 55:00also full of the other
- 55:05she's tended turfs that I would do once
- 55:07singers
- 55:09[Music]
- 55:13or somebody out
- 55:16[Music]
- 55:19we go
- 55:22melty basically calm myself now
- 55:27[Music]
- 55:28detention center points
- 55:32I've tried to realize work at the police
- 55:36department
- 55:37look at my defense tried to realize my
- 55:42faults honesty again I think I've walked
- 55:46through the police's well I get I
- 55:48understand there was some smoke blowing
- 55:49that was probably my demise they
- 55:52afterlife and smoke JP Ellen kekeke
- 55:57story early first a bit of smoke
- 55:59following is it blue so much smoke that
- 56:02now nobody knows facts of fiction and
- 56:04that's basically why I'd be very honest
- 56:08with my attorneys hard yeah almost done
- 56:14egg earlier including someone less after
- 56:17that is basically all over and I Steve
- 56:20encouraged not to go with her deeply
- 56:22so if you do more they get all the
- 56:25things it could with a locket and an
- 56:28expert coming in over the fluffy see
- 56:31whether there's any problems with that
- 56:33they did expensive booth service in the
- 56:35DNA spot with me when they took my
- 56:38daughter but I understand in a law
- 56:40enforcement you have to do certain
- 56:41things and I think honestly what will
- 56:46save an audition
- 56:50so anyway I faced up to the man himself
- 56:55now my boss I think that all most
- 57:00accountability and fulfilling now and
- 57:05memos I think I think it's here you know
- 57:11they are available for this happened I
- 57:22was well to say not pasta compromised
- 57:30and probably is the stage for the
- 57:34service for the day was the
- 57:35compartmentalization of me has been my
- 57:38biggest record back and forth and not
- 57:41proud of that it's just I speak
- 57:44mechanism defense mechanism I just acted
- 57:49for a fairly fast I explained to the
- 57:53defense I was kinda like an 18 wheeler
- 57:56dealer down you know I just switched
- 57:58gears very fast correctly
- 58:01I could work on it and as I stand here
- 58:05in this humble way then maybe people
- 58:07could do it
- 58:09come back to performance so the weight
- 58:15is given to the face to see okay
- 58:18[Music]
- 58:25corrections this is the whole
- 58:27responsibility we're going to handle
- 58:29institution full full board I don't
- 58:33expect anything with a hardcore PITA I
- 58:36expected that I'm gonna pee that's why
- 58:38step quickly please
- 58:40I knew after I talked to police the
- 58:44evidence there wasn't ago I was really
- 58:46gonna get out of this once we found the
- 58:48simulated some evidence that was just in
- 58:53the trial would have been a long
- 58:54drawn-out to plead everything away by
- 59:01making corrections on the leg from
- 59:03society now in process there as long as
- 59:07you can start my new chapter
- 59:13and I suppose then all the time it's
- 59:16greater than everybody knows Reiter has
- 59:18to complain a little bit so I like to do
- 59:20some minor ones not because I want to
- 59:22complain today but I want to set the
- 59:23record this is my last time he probably
- 59:29biggest problem I have right now we're
- 59:31still trying to answer is happen to
- 59:33Mendoza with organic trust with interest
- 59:35it's like I just guess it's working I
- 59:39know about people working that was I
- 59:41just another one is the you know
- 59:48basically expressing this I don't know
- 59:51on that wish somebody could take apart
- 59:54it isn't named on the house now the
- 59:57final victim business for paper said is
- 1:00:00my wife
- 1:00:00[Music]
- 1:00:21stiva Jeff
- 1:00:24[Music]
- 1:00:27it's
- 1:00:30only went back that she is my final
- 1:00:32victim nothing about this loss I
- 1:00:41understand it because they lean one on
- 1:00:43the house is because I have property
- 1:00:45there's a lot of dependence in saying
- 1:00:46that we don't have any plaintiff forever
- 1:00:47I know this is very expensive
- 1:00:50probably defense it's like somewhere
- 1:00:52eighty nine thousand
- 1:00:53it's just about the house sold for if we
- 1:00:56want to a trial within a millions of
- 1:00:58years I I just basically ask them
- 1:01:02whoever does that final judgment that
- 1:01:03they think about the wife dead one is
- 1:01:09not biggie it's not this less issued
- 1:01:13better finest psychic you know pictures
- 1:01:16out of the spoken defense would have a
- 1:01:18court order for every day I can go
- 1:01:21through that wallet okay some family
- 1:01:23pictures but that's not going to issue
- 1:01:24because I understand to motive that
- 1:01:26these the defense will turn that
- 1:01:28probably over my clothes those are
- 1:01:32really those are the complaints except
- 1:01:34for a powerful question I don't
- 1:01:37and again I want to pick on those
- 1:01:38waffles think I'm very good job but
- 1:01:40clarify a few things just for the roads
- 1:01:44because this is basic my final say
- 1:01:48they whistling there was two actors
- 1:01:49brought about the same longer tunneling
- 1:01:52the James Bond the action of that Kevin
- 1:01:57was the shooting not they pay less stood
- 1:02:00up in stride because I was working with
- 1:02:03the police I would say what I call a
- 1:02:05quick travel just like that that's what
- 1:02:08I called his online shop it's not that
- 1:02:10he would be something like that
- 1:02:12secondly we fought it for us to fight
- 1:02:16he had that wolfies hands open the
- 1:02:19PowerPoint said that they spit up things
- 1:02:22tied my shotty he fought my back dog he
- 1:02:27had his hands starting again and again
- 1:02:31these are only minor this month make a
- 1:02:33difference is probably relevant I just
- 1:02:35must set the record straight that's all
- 1:02:37sir Vienna it was the art scene that I
- 1:02:43was strangling myself I just covered the
- 1:02:47kids
- 1:02:48that's just she who I hope put the kids
- 1:02:51back in the backer never been there
- 1:02:54before we wanted so the Foley's all I
- 1:02:59ever put in over here
- 1:03:05this book for five down there
- 1:03:07[Music]
- 1:03:15and this is really minor although it
- 1:03:19makes you wonder whether the information
- 1:03:21is intended or not evidence and make
- 1:03:23some speculate where the law enforcement
- 1:03:25didn't do but they did a good job with a
- 1:03:27good plan with the second the doors made
- 1:03:31this race they click back and forth
- 1:03:33anybody knows anything about geology
- 1:03:36structured his true stuff or not I think
- 1:03:39she they were over in the eastern part
- 1:03:41of nine states so those pictures have
- 1:03:44hanging in the Mayo burn up she probably
- 1:03:52the most damaging to me Agra food they
- 1:03:58displayed yes a Naga quiet rude I did
- 1:04:01see what they had a lot a pumpkin fix
- 1:04:04yourself family will know that I didn't
- 1:04:07own the camper I had a pickup with a
- 1:04:09camera top that he didn't have any show
- 1:04:11us that it's a basic 11 s was totally
- 1:04:13painted Lee you picked up a fixture from
- 1:04:15somewhere else or and so did or didn't
- 1:04:18realize it may have known a relative I'm
- 1:04:20not sure I would think they had more
- 1:04:23pornography they were started
- 1:04:26I said basically the perfect Asians that
- 1:04:32thing is what the law enforcement there
- 1:04:37seemed to be waited as a dog catcher
- 1:04:43law enforcement I felt like it ever
- 1:04:47before with the longed-for see people
- 1:04:49drinking profession and it's they
- 1:04:52probably said I stopped probably be
- 1:04:54talking about the deviance person didn't
- 1:04:56show up we had a good rapport I almost
- 1:04:59felt like a savant I'm a speculum onion
- 1:05:02to come in and have a coffee with me so
- 1:05:05there was a report almost have to
- 1:05:06respect the law enforcement although I
- 1:05:10work back black am still awake then
- 1:05:16thanks I can't believe the people sorry
- 1:05:24yeah I think they use society after even
- 1:05:28though criminal I think you have to
- 1:05:31appreciate the police department they've
- 1:05:33done a lot of work took a long time
- 1:05:36they've gathered evidence the heavy
- 1:05:38evidence winning if you suspect a very
- 1:05:41gravely have the dedication act like
- 1:05:44this might work for all these years it's
- 1:05:46a great so I think such a panic really
- 1:05:48has a good police force defense this has
- 1:05:54been a unique probably a different
- 1:05:57typeface that they've ever had we've had
- 1:06:00our ups and downs but also they've been
- 1:06:02good
- 1:06:02it's it it's just like a news anchor
- 1:06:05it's just
- 1:06:07and the media has just been terrible I
- 1:06:10work with the meat packers
- 1:06:12and yeah I mean it's it's just it's just
- 1:06:16tremendous better pretty good Sara's
- 1:06:18probably been like part of my workhorse
- 1:06:21I will appreciate her if she's done a
- 1:06:23lot of good work Steve he had keep the
- 1:06:25kids in all this I know it was very hard
- 1:06:28graphite cream I wanted to hit since I
- 1:06:30was cooking this very close to them
- 1:06:32personally I'm sure that the last year
- 1:06:36our emissions Steve Sarah the pendulum
- 1:06:40everybody knows Steve when the half moon
- 1:06:43was gentlemen it sure I think she's not
- 1:06:45a case to start which is a social worker
- 1:06:53a research supporting the earth I
- 1:06:55appreciate prepping that Jenny blonde
- 1:06:58with a special investigator and then
- 1:07:01trying to she's alone cut my hair
- 1:07:02close-up so you know basically my family
- 1:07:06so I appreciate their own professional
- 1:07:09staff over we have some questions with
- 1:07:11robert jay mendoza and what happened
- 1:07:13there i take that time it'll be solved
- 1:07:15but i still have two people credit for
- 1:07:17coming in and helping me and working
- 1:07:19with me and i'm sure i hope i pronounced
- 1:07:22that right is talked like a walrus Eva's
- 1:07:24the other doctor that came in and
- 1:07:26they're all from cambridge forensic
- 1:07:29society we're consultants
- 1:07:32I really appreciate the defense they've
- 1:07:34done a lot for me get me advised Centre
- 1:07:39County to catch this thing was scared
- 1:07:44when I first came in here never never
- 1:07:47been risked before didn't look I was
- 1:07:50basically for 43 days
- 1:07:5242 for three days after an isolation
- 1:07:56first the officers Cheryl obviously pull
- 1:07:59him deputies down there five deputies
- 1:08:01for they didn't know me I didn't know
- 1:08:03limb but they they finally opened it up
- 1:08:05and they became human and I think they
- 1:08:07realized I was human too
- 1:08:09eventually I moved over to pod - and
- 1:08:13that's very much camaraderie with all
- 1:08:17the dirty dozen or or the disease in the
- 1:08:19pod
- 1:08:19they were sequential great guys most of
- 1:08:21those guys were gone now but I have a
- 1:08:23lot of respect I sit down with him well
- 1:08:26I'll have crimes but there's you
- 1:08:29basically build of camaraderie with
- 1:08:31those type of people the people who move
- 1:08:34me around I'm what they call I call it
- 1:08:38hot peppers a habanero we were red we
- 1:08:40have got that special losers well you
- 1:08:43know I hope I pronounce these from the
- 1:08:45detention area I hope I pronounced these
- 1:08:46people's last names right in the police
- 1:08:48somebody else
- 1:08:49I apologize for them long ahead is
- 1:08:52Robert and Shawn captain barber Maxwell
- 1:08:55captain hurts lieutenant Larry Bragg's
- 1:09:00sergeant piece by Molina sergeant diesel
- 1:09:02it has been very very close with me work
- 1:09:05with Mary Ellen and I have a lot of
- 1:09:08respect for him he's been my main main
- 1:09:10judicial I'll probably mess up his last
- 1:09:14name but his standing old fart dents
- 1:09:16friend
- 1:09:17and I messed it up I'm sorry grandpa
- 1:09:20there's many many many more beyond those
- 1:09:25a long time if I help us I'd appreciate
- 1:09:27those people again
- 1:09:30Esther Clark
- 1:09:33he has been many men come see me every
- 1:09:41day
- 1:09:41not excuse me least once a week
- 1:09:43sometimes twice a week if anybody out
- 1:09:45dishonest you under the house of God I
- 1:09:56pray to these sons trust his ass and for
- 1:10:03Henry I can't stay with me remain strong
- 1:10:06[Music]
- 1:10:10good man
- 1:10:11appreciate that got someone to media
- 1:10:21we're just weak with your confession I
- 1:10:23sit down with your each of the people I
- 1:10:26killed
- 1:10:27[Music]
- 1:10:30and I thought was strengthening some
- 1:10:33bonds there at that time anyway the last
- 1:10:38minutes
- 1:10:38[Music]
- 1:10:40I doubt it'll start with him you know
- 1:10:45there's still support a little bit
- 1:10:47wife's going on divorced she's trying to
- 1:10:50stay out of harm's way since the kids
- 1:10:54are way too much letters but they're
- 1:10:57basically supportive friends friends a
- 1:11:10person I don't think miss hunter black
- 1:11:12in there in 7576 days you couldn't
- 1:11:15survive without Prince if you didn't
- 1:11:17have family to support you if you don't
- 1:11:18have with something there's something
- 1:11:20kind of like pastor Clark you go down
- 1:11:22just a minute you go down so friends
- 1:11:26have been very key part people in the
- 1:11:30quad hog deputies sergeant although they
- 1:11:36can't have a friend relationship with
- 1:11:39your friends I get this out this morning
- 1:11:42but the other day was working out that's
- 1:11:44come from into fate of oceans they
- 1:11:45Christian book it's called test by
- 1:11:48stranger which is an argument in the
- 1:11:50bottom there's an article by Hess there
- 1:11:55isn't a person in court
- 1:11:56what does something like referring to do
- 1:11:58and I will appreciate like for fishing
- 1:12:00rain in summer or the general Murray's
- 1:12:02and spring just a little gift of
- 1:12:04kindness joy someone first can bring the
- 1:12:08media exposure my family and then
- 1:12:10basically had to almost to stay away so
- 1:12:12I really didn't have any support there
- 1:12:14was some people loose in this stuff that
- 1:12:16Christina
- 1:12:17cats in Iran they really help and I
- 1:12:20really push it for support
- 1:12:21there's another ones out on the west
- 1:12:23coast Andy Horschel
- 1:12:25he's another Christian and I would have
- 1:12:29probably a long time ago without your
- 1:12:30sports so I do want to get your name's
- 1:12:33[Music]
- 1:12:43Christian Bible verse I found I think
- 1:12:46it's helping me will help me lady me
- 1:12:49this is John 8:12 I invited the world he
- 1:12:54who follows me shall not walk in
- 1:12:55darkness that life would like now that I
- 1:12:58could fest with myself out don't
- 1:13:02everybody know what's going on I expect
- 1:13:04to heal and have life and hopefully
- 1:13:07someday God will accept me
- 1:13:09[Music]
- 1:13:15exception County myself we speak where
- 1:13:22the man is an evil man the dark side is
- 1:13:25there now I think the logs beginning to
- 1:13:28shine
- 1:13:31so I appreciate family friends although
- 1:13:36I could be thankful for and I think I
- 1:13:40will keep me from finally going to the
- 1:13:42dark side
- 1:13:43[Music]
- 1:13:46finally final Pollard shots famous
- 1:13:51there's no way that I can ever repay
- 1:13:58it's also
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