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0:00one of the greatest lies in world
0:01history is that America is a racist
0:03country America is the least racist
0:06multi-ethnic multiracial country in
0:08history the only non black country to
0:11ever elect a black leader to get great
0:17again this is Steven Eddington for the
0:24Sun and in this week's burning questions
0:26I interviewed Dennis Prager Dennis
0:28Prager is the founder of Prager
0:30University a conservative platform and
0:32we're going to be talking about the
0:34black lives matter protests George Floyd
0:36and the idea of white privilege and
0:38whether our society is institutionally
0:41racist
0:41so I hope you enjoy this week's episode
0:43thank you so much for joining us Dennis
0:45Prager pleasure to be with you thank you
0:48George Floyd was killed by a white
0:51police officer how does that make you
0:53feel I I am one who assumes that evil is
1:00on earth that we will never rid
1:04ourselves completely of it and that is
1:08how it makes me feel it I am NOT shocked
1:11on the other hand I am you believe that
1:14the reaction has been irrational and
1:17even evil so that's my reaction do you
1:23do you support specifically the peaceful
1:25protesters
1:26if support means agree with them know if
1:29support means that they have the right
1:31to protest of course that's a cherished
1:33value in America freedom of assembly and
1:36freedom of speech but I believe that one
1:40of the greatest lies in world history is
1:42that America is a racist country America
1:45is the least racist multi-ethnic
1:47multiracial country in history the only
1:50non black country to ever elect a black
1:52leader the relations between blacks and
1:55whites in America on a daily basis are
1:58entirely normal and this this is a
2:03horrible libel on America causing
2:05terrible damage we've seen thousands of
2:07people across America peacefully
2:09protesting but we've also seen riots and
2:11looting and the burning
2:13down of cities we've seen curfews
2:16throughout American cities for the last
2:19week or so some people are saying that
2:23this is a precursor to a revolution that
2:27this is the end of capitalism this is
2:29the end of Western society and we're
2:31actually seeing these protests morph
2:32outside of America in London today we
2:36saw police being attacked by protesters
2:38outside of Downing Street black lives
2:40matter supporters do you see this as a
2:43precursor to some kind of revolution do
2:46you see this as the end of days do you
2:49see this sort of event as the end of
2:51days ends of Western civilization rather
2:53I do believe that the left and I always
2:57always draw distinction at least in
3:00American terms between left and liberal
3:04liberals are my allies though I am
3:06called a conservative philosophically
3:08they are my allies some liberals are
3:11awakening to the fact that conservatives
3:13are their allies the left is their enemy
3:15the left loathes
3:17Western civilization it the notion that
3:22there is a any value system that is
3:27superior to any other is loathsome to
3:30the left all value systems are equal I
3:34do not accept that I think the West has
3:37created something better it has nothing
3:39to do with race it has nothing to do
3:41with ethnicity it is a value judgment
3:44that I make they don't the the idea that
3:48all people should be judged by the same
3:51standards is anathema to the left that's
3:54why they drop standards for admissions
3:57to universities which I also believe is
4:00an insult to black people but that's
4:02another matter so yes there in Western
4:05civilization is in crisis all over the
4:08West an entire generation of people
4:10raised by people who loathe the West at
4:14universities and even secondary schools
4:17is very large it's a very serious
4:20problem and do you think these protests
4:22are adding to that problem
4:24I think these protests are a
4:25manifestation of that
4:27the lack of interference with the
4:32looting is ava is a new problem not
4:36entirely new what's happened in riots
4:38before to watch police cars burned and
4:42the police do nothing is a statement
4:47that chaos is is dominant right now
4:52chaos civilization cannot afford chaos
4:55if usually breeds dictatorships and it's
4:59not just the police holding back I mean
5:01there are various commentators in
5:03America liberal left-wing media hosts
5:07Chris Cuomo he's probably one the sort
5:10of CNN types and and even some Democrat
5:12politicians who are actually saying that
5:14these violent protests are a worthy
5:19cause because and this is the reason
5:20they gave and I want you to sort of
5:22break down first of all why are people
5:24saying these violent protests are
5:26acceptable and second of all their
5:28reasoning is that they say that society
5:30has ignored this group of people they
5:33have ignored black Americans for far too
5:35long and they can't get their voices
5:37heard so they feel that the only way
5:40that they can be heard is by doing the
5:42actions that they've been taking in the
5:44last week this is the justification for
5:47all political violence the Palestinian
5:51said they couldn't be heard unless they
5:53blew up children on buses in Israel then
5:56this is not new I am I my cause is so
6:02good that it is it's almost an uber
6:07immense cause I I am no longer bound by
6:11laws of civility because my cause is so
6:14noble its despicable and I suppose it's
6:17that people in there you talk about no
6:19longer being bound by the laws of
6:21society now that that goes back to my my
6:24original question is of whether this is
6:26sort of the meaning of the end or
6:28whether this is the end of society is in
6:31that if we don't respect our laws if we
6:33don't respect and even encourage people
6:35to break those laws as I mentioned does
6:38that to simply lead to
6:40claps of the way that we live our lives
6:42and do you see that happening in the
6:44short term I I think your generation is
6:47is inheriting chaos and you need to
6:58understand what's at stake with all its
7:02flaws and of course there are flaws
7:04because the human being is so flawed
7:07given how flawed humans are the
7:10achievement of west of the West
7:13abolishing slavery giving women equal
7:15rights giving everyone the vote complete
7:21free freedom of speech these are the
7:24aberrations
7:25not to mention elevating people
7:28financially giving people opportunities
7:32that they never had in history more
7:35health care than they've ever had in
7:37history these are the aberrations of
7:39history that's not the norm freedom is
7:44an aberration not a norm so I I am
7:49worried yes but your generation has
7:52already have been indoctrinated and they
7:55the culprits are never are never noted
7:59in America the the people burning the
8:03stores and looting are never called
8:05leftists but if they were conservatives
8:08doing this all you would hear is
8:10rightists destroy minneapolis rightists
8:13destroy 5th Avenue in Manhattan but no
8:16one is saying leftists are destroying so
8:19it's like some people don't want to
8:22acknowledge that on 9/11 America was
8:25attacked by Islamic terrorists so they
8:27just say 9/11 America was attacked but
8:30they don't say by whom nobody is saying
8:33who is doing all of this destruction
8:36it's all coming from the left the left
8:38is a destructive force but if your
8:41generation doesn't recognize that you
8:44will inherit chaos not order and in fact
8:47we've seen some in the media I think I
8:49saw a New York Times article talking
8:50about how actually many of these rioters
8:53and looters
8:54are in fact white supremacists and
8:57far-right types how do you respond to
8:59that it's a lie it's a grand lie but as
9:04I have said and I have studied the left
9:06since graduate school truth is not a
9:10left-wing value for two years they lied
9:12that the Trump campaign colluded with
9:15Russia who is a hundred percent lie it
9:17was found out to be a lie and then they
9:20went to the next lie white supremacists
9:23are doing these demonstrations on behalf
9:25of blacks a little bizarre let's talk
9:31about the nub of the issue of why so
9:32many people are angry and you have to
9:34admit that many people are angry I think
9:36this is really struck a chord with
9:38millions around least the Western world
9:41let's talk about black lives matter and
9:43police brutality first of all do you
9:46believe that there is a problem in
9:47America with police brutality towards
9:50specifically black people towards
9:52African Americans and if so what should
9:54be done about it I believe there was
9:58there's no doubt in my mind I believe
10:01that police departments overwhelmingly
10:03have fought this to the point where what
10:07you have now it's called an America the
10:10Ferguson effect in Ferguson Missouri a
10:13policeman killed a young man Michael
10:17Brown and it came out in court that in
10:21fact Brown had attacked him the
10:23policeman begged him to stand still yet
10:27Barack Obama the New York Times
10:30editorial page and others still say
10:33Ferguson as if it's an example of police
10:36brutality but these were blacks on the
10:39jury that acquitted the policeman in
10:44Ferguson Missouri it wasn't it was
10:48nothing at all based on race I think
10:53that the the issue of police brutality
10:55to blacks is wildly inflated and
10:58exaggerated just as the whole issue of
11:01racism in America if you say anything if
11:05I am opposed for example
11:07to a lowering standards at universities
11:11to admit more blacks or Hispanics or any
11:15other group I believe standards have to
11:17be standards and that and by the way the
11:20standards benefit not White's
11:22they benefit Asians Asians score higher
11:26and they get that they are the most
11:28highly over-represented group and at
11:32prestigious universities so be it
11:36what good is it to lower standards and
11:41and then what happens is the blacks get
11:44into colleges that make more demands
11:46demands than they are capable of meeting
11:49at that time having nothing to do with
11:51their being black
11:52I couldn't have met it when I was an
11:54undergraduate I was ready to do hard
11:57work in graduate school I went to
11:58Columbia but I couldn't have gone to
12:00Columbia is it an undergraduate I'd have
12:02probably flunked out I simply wasn't
12:04ready for such intense a work Scholastic
12:09academic work but anyway what happens is
12:11then they go many of them don't graduate
12:13many of them get poor grades and then
12:17they get angry that it's a racist
12:19University if I give you another example
12:22the universities are said to be a rape
12:26what is the word rape rape not rape
12:30centers but whether hurts huh is that
12:32what it is yeah rape culture that's
12:34right rape culture and so of course
12:37that's another great lie and it's simply
12:40proved what parent would send a daughter
12:42to a rape culture everyone knows it's a
12:45lie but the left continues with it so
12:48what the lie of of police brutality it
12:53exists but it is not a it's not an
12:55epidemic all bad things exist but that
13:00but this is this is not huge the the
13:05sort of black lives matter movement
13:06around the world points to Western
13:09slavery points to the fact that black
13:12people weren't given civil rights as as
13:14quickly as white people and points to
13:18various acts of racism which they say
13:21are still
13:21in America today and still
13:23institutionally in not just America but
13:26in Britain and the Western world today
13:27so my question is do you believe that we
13:29live in an institutional racist society
13:32whenever a caller to my show a black
13:35hole or a you were an American radio
13:37show of three hours a day and whenever a
13:40black calls in or for that matter a
13:42white leftist America is institutionally
13:46racist I ask what institution I mean it
13:50means nothing until I hear the
13:52institution so what happened today a
13:54black caller from Alabama called my show
13:56and said that I said what institution he
13:59said the justice system because the
14:04argument is given that blacks are
14:05disproportionately in prison but the
14:08reason blacks are disapper portion aliy
14:10in prison is because they
14:11disproportionately commit violent crime
14:13these are FBI statistics this is nothing
14:16to do with anti or Pro black it's anti
14:19or Pro truth that that's the issue then
14:23it's a tragedy and I have theories as to
14:28why but it doesn't matter that's not
14:30what you asked me there are more blacks
14:32in prison because more blacks
14:33proportionally commit violent crime and
14:37in terms of interracial crime the a
14:41white person's chance of being murdered
14:43or beaten by a black are so much greater
14:47than a black person's chances of being
14:51murdered or beaten by a white I want to
14:55talk later about some of the reasons
14:56that you believe black people face so
14:59many of these issues for example and you
15:01mentioned one there
15:02more black people obviously many more
15:04black people proportionally in America
15:06are on prisons more black people black
15:08people are more likely to be shot than
15:09white people by police proportionally
15:11and they're more likely to be arrested
15:13for drug usage for example I will talk
15:15about the the reasons that you think are
15:17behind those statistics later on and
15:20obviously the main reason that most
15:22leftist or left-wing types in America
15:24and Britain would say that actually the
15:26reasons for those for those all for
15:28statistics would be systemic racism but
15:31we'll talk about later as I say - why -
15:33why you think that
15:35that occurs I want to talk about the
15:37idea of white privilege
15:39now many people would say to you dennis
15:43prager
15:43as a white man you have no right or no
15:46understanding to talk about the issues
15:48that we've been talking about because
15:49you can never understand what it's like
15:52to experience racism as a black person
15:56you can never understand those
15:57experiences experiences so how can you
16:00have any authority to talk about any of
16:03these issues I must have been I never
16:05understood that argument that if you are
16:08not part of a group you may not have any
16:12opinions on anything in reference to the
16:16group I'm not a woman but I feel that I
16:21can comment on women's issues I'm a Jew
16:25who I think I could comment on Christian
16:27issues I mean I'm very tall can I not
16:31talk about what it is to be short now I
16:37this is like a a war against knowledge
16:42if you are not X then you have no valid
16:47statement to say about X then really the
16:51truth is no one can say anything about
16:53anything except themselves but even
16:55that's not accurate because most people
16:58really don't know themselves very well
16:59that's why people go to therapists
17:02theoretically to learn about themselves
17:04so what what this argument is ultimately
17:09reductio ad absurdum you have reduced it
17:12to absurdity there is there are truths
17:15do i I do I not come I not emote with a
17:21black you can't amount with yourself I
17:25had back surgery with terrible pain I
17:29can't even emot-- to that pain now when
17:32you're out of pain you don't remember
17:33what pain is like so the issue of the
17:36can you emote is is is irrelevant
17:39is what you have to say worthwhile and
17:42what about the blacks who agree with me
17:44why are they dismissed Joe Biden is
17:49running for president of the United
17:50States and says that if you don't vote
17:53Democrat
17:54you ain't black he said that last week
17:58that's incredible anyway why don't they
18:02say who are you Joe Biden to tell blacks
18:04our vote you're not black I was on
18:07Spotify last night trying to listen to
18:08some music and it came up with a black
18:10lives matter playlist on Twitter today
18:13there was a headline that says Ben and
18:15Jerry's calls for a Miss dismantling of
18:18white supremacy I think Pop Tart another
18:21American brand was tweeting about black
18:23lives matter why are so many capitalist
18:26brands why so many big companies getting
18:28involved in this movement because
18:31they're cowards the the default
18:35character characteristic of the human is
18:38cowardice it takes a lot to be
18:41courageous so companies think I have
18:45nothing to lose if I sound woke and
18:48that's why they do it that's all it is
18:51if the the the left can intimidate the
18:56right cannot that's the fact of life
18:59today and it's a tragedy but the big
19:02business is run like the universities
19:05are by cowards by cowardly people
19:08because that's the norm if I just read
19:13Wendy's this fast food chain burger
19:17chain in America the the owner gave a
19:20few hundred thousand dollars to the
19:21Trump campaign there's a massive
19:23campaign now on the left to get people
19:26not to have Wendy's there's no campaign
19:29on the right not to eat Ben and Jerry's
19:31ice cream we we understand that you have
19:35positions big deal do you make a good
19:38ice cream that's not what the left does
19:40if we disagree with you you must be
19:42suppressed
19:43I run Prager University I'm Prager and
19:47the the attempt to suppress
19:50us on the only internet is is very scary
19:57the left does not argue the left
20:01suppresses the protesters are obviously
20:05absolutely distraught about the death of
20:08George Boyd there's this awful nine
20:10minute video watching him slowly
20:12suffocate to death with the police
20:14officers knee on his neck and I think
20:17that that made everyone angry I mean
20:20other than a very very small minority of
20:22people all around the world people could
20:25see that as a human being you know
20:27doesn't matter if you're black or white
20:29that video was completely distressing
20:31and just absolutely horrible and I don't
20:35think there's been like I haven't seen
20:37any mainstream commentator on the left
20:40all right
20:40say that George Floyd's death wasn't any
20:44of the things that I've just said it
20:45described it as and there's you know
20:48even President Trump for example is
20:49saying George Floyd's death was a
20:50disaster it was a murder and we're glad
20:53the police officer involved has been
20:54arrested and will be charged so
20:56therefore my question comes to what are
20:59the what are the protesters one if we
21:00all basically agree with the fundamental
21:03premise of George Floyd's death was a
21:04disaster and that the police officer
21:06should be arrested and tried then what
21:08comes after that that's a fine question
21:15look there's so little racism in America
21:19that the University of California and
21:22your viewers readers listeners can check
21:25this out there's a list that the the
21:29largest state university is California
21:33is the largest of the states I live in
21:35California they put out a list of what
21:39they call microaggressions things people
21:43say that they think are not racist but
21:47really are so here's an example if you
21:51say
21:52in my opinion there's only one race the
21:55human race that is officially designated
21:59as racist now of course it's the least
22:03racist comment you can come out with you
22:06don't the only race you care about is
22:08the human race means it doesn't matter
22:11what color you are it's irrelevant
22:12you're human but that is now considered
22:15racist why because there's so little
22:18racism that the left has to invent
22:22statements and actions that that will
22:26now be be called racist that's how
22:30little racism there is I am fortunate
22:32enough to have a relatively small
22:34platform compared to yours admittedly
22:36but I'm able to interview people like
22:39you all around the world and reach
22:40millions of people therefore I think it
22:42would be a dereliction of my duty not to
22:44mention as I've mentioned so much the
22:47death of George Floyd which as I said is
22:49a complete disaster not to mention a man
22:51called David dawn
22:53David Dawn was a black man or is a black
22:56man he was a police captain he served in
22:59his community with the police force for
23:0138 years he was looked up to in the
23:05community and during the rioting and
23:07looting yesterday he went down to defend
23:11a store of a friend and he was
23:14tragically shot and killed murdered by
23:17the rioters and the looters do you think
23:21that there has been equal outrage over
23:23his death - George Floyd and if not why
23:27not this because the news is not news
23:32the news is an attempt to achieve a
23:38mission
23:40and so if the news does not is not
23:43reconcilable with a left-wing view of
23:46the world it is under or even not
23:49reported that would be an example of I
23:54know about that story and that is indeed
23:56an example of what is or isn't reported
24:00blacks in in Brooklyn New York on many
24:05occasions have beaten up religious Jews
24:07or identifiable by their clothing and
24:10they would beat them up there are videos
24:13of this on the Internet
24:15there is no national outcry yet the
24:19anti-defamation league group which is
24:22the anti anti-semitism group that Jews
24:25have created routinely and it's and it's
24:27liberal of the ADL it's not conservative
24:30but they routinely report that there's
24:33more anti-semitism in the black
24:34community than any other community in
24:36America but that gets no news it's not
24:39reported some Democrats and members of
24:42the media have been describing President
24:44Trump recently as a dictator and they've
24:47done this before over the last three or
24:49four years as he's been president now
24:51obviously he has used very strong
24:53language against these protesters he's
24:55called them thugs first of all do you
24:57agree with the sentiment that the Trump
24:59is becoming a dictator that he is
25:01authoritarian that he is this hard man
25:02figure and secondly for a first they
25:06just have to go great I think correct
25:08you he did not call the protesters
25:10stones he called the looters thugs
25:12that's it that's an important
25:14distinction and you're right I apologize
25:15for not getting the word if I'm not
25:17quite correct I think you're right that
25:19as you say you called the looters thugs
25:21so the first the first part of the
25:22question was first of all do you agree
25:23with this the sentiment that Trump is
25:25becoming an authoritarian figure and
25:28second of all do you think this kind of
25:30rhetoric simply goes further to fuel the
25:32chaos in America it's it's almost a joke
25:35to call the man a dictator when all the
25:38dictators are Democrats the the
25:41governors of Pennsylvania of Michigan of
25:43Washington Oregon life state California
25:46there are the dictators you can't go to
25:48work that's a dictator you can't go to
25:51church that's a dictator
25:53you can't open up your business that's a
25:56dictator Trump wants them to open up
25:58he's the ease and non dictator also you
26:01never get dictators on the right because
26:04our view is give government less power
26:07by definition dictatorship in in in
26:10Western countries is going to come from
26:12the left unless there's some sort of
26:14coup somewhere because the left wants
26:16more power and the right wants less
26:18power
26:19it's definitional you can't be a
26:21dictator if you want the government to
26:23shrink yet yet the left is truly
26:27projection we want to be dictators and
26:30when they can they are what has happened
26:32now in the United States of America is a
26:35scandal and and the division is almost
26:37completely accurate left-right
26:40Republican governors say you're free
26:43democratic governors say you cannot go
26:46to work that's that's an important
26:48distinction when you say that there
26:52can't be dictators on the right I'm
26:54going to point you to a couple of
26:55examples and I'm sure you've got lots of
26:57points to argue against this so for
26:59example Pinochet many people on the Left
27:02would say that this was a right-wing
27:04dictator another example obviously the
27:07one that most people would immediately
27:09pop into their head is Adolf Hitler so
27:12when when people make an interesting
27:15argument against leftists who say that
27:17communism was never tried correctly all
27:20the times it's been tried it hasn't been
27:22done properly are you therefore making a
27:25sort of similar proxy argument to say
27:27well actually they're not really
27:28right-wing they're already right well
27:31cause you know it's not done correctly
27:32remember I was using Western democracies
27:35as my example you know in in Latin
27:39America where their right-wing dictators
27:41yes of course they were right being
27:43dictators were they elected in a free
27:45election I'm talking about can you elect
27:48people who will ultimately create a
27:51dictatorship there right now in
27:53California there is a dictatorship
27:55it is not deniable you can say well it's
27:58for health reasons that's fine but you
28:00can't deny the fact that the reality is
28:03this is the point reality now theory
28:06I'll get to Hitler in a more
28:07but the reality is those governors who
28:12are acting like dictators are all
28:13Democrat and the ones who are not are
28:16all Republican that's a fact that's not
28:18theoretical that's what's happening in
28:20real life now if you go to Hitler and I
28:24know a great deal about Hitler and about
28:25Nazism it's a very honest debate whether
28:30to call the man right or not right first
28:33of all Nazism met National Socialism is
28:35socialism a right-wing value No so if
28:40one is intellectually honest there there
28:43is an element of a strong element of
28:46leftism in Nazism but you can argue it
28:50is not just socialism it was also racism
28:52yet it's correct is racist a right-wing
28:55doctrine okay that's that is an
28:58interesting question
28:59ie uh I know a lot of right-wingers
29:03they loathe racism as much as anyone
29:07else does it is Sooey generis racism is
29:11not right it is not left it just is it's
29:14another way of looking at life it's an
29:17evil prism to see the world through race
29:20but I don't know why it is called right
29:22right-wing means less government
29:24left-wing means more government that's
29:27the essential difference between the two
29:29and America was founded to have limited
29:32government the left wants to undo the
29:35American Revolution and make government
29:37ever bigger that's what I mean by you
29:40won't have a right-wing dictator in
29:42America because Republicans and the
29:45right want smaller government I am NOT
29:47saying that in all of earth and all of
29:49history there can't be a right-wing
29:51dictator
29:52let's get back to President Trump not
29:55only was he criticized by CNN but he was
29:58also criticized criticized by Fox News
30:00Taco Carlson or Fox News said that Trump
30:03didn't go far enough against the
30:06protesters he criticized them also for
30:08focusing too much on President Trump
30:10himself rather than protecting the
30:12American people he said he said that
30:16Trump failed to protect American
30:19citizens during these
30:20riots is he right well the only thing
30:26the president could do to the best of my
30:29knowledge is send in troops it's a very
30:33The Wall Street Journal which is the the
30:38great conservative newspaper in the
30:40United States they editorialized that he
30:43should not send in troops that this
30:46would be a bad precedent even though
30:48what has happened on rare occasion in
30:50America and he should rely on National
30:54Guard but I the National Guard has
30:56called in by governors so I I read the
31:01Tucker Carlson monologue I thought it
31:03was brilliant and I would if I've been
31:08on his show and I would ask him well
31:10what would you have liked the president
31:12to do what I think he did say send in
31:14troops I think good conservatives and
31:17good Americans can be on either side of
31:21the issue of whether you send in the US
31:24military I think the National Guard
31:26should have been used but uh-uh you go
31:30you go police National Guard than
31:32military in New York City they didn't
31:35even use the police let alone that call
31:38in the National Guard believe me have
31:41they been right-wing looters right-wing
31:44arsonists the police and the National
31:46Guard would have been called in how do
31:49you think the media have impacted these
31:51riots and protests let me tell you my
31:54view on this for a moment I
31:56I studied the Russian language and the
31:59Soviet Union I was at the Russian
32:02Institute at Columbia University for
32:03graduate work and I I remember thinking
32:07and then I went to the Soviet Union
32:09during that time I remember thinking
32:13this could never happen in America that
32:17the press brainwashes people because in
32:21a free only in a totalitarian state can
32:24the press brainwash people and it's one
32:28of the few things one of the few
32:30shocking things in my life to learn that
32:33the
32:34even in a free society can bring wash
32:37people uh and this look I think that
32:41hysteria over covin and it has been
32:44hysteria you know in 1968-69 we lost the
32:50equivalent of a hundred and fifty
32:51thousand Americans and people went to
32:54Woodstock to dance and and do other
32:57intimate physical gestures we are a
33:01weaker so in this all the West this is
33:03all the world's can UK - it's not just
33:06the United States but the press played a
33:10huge role in fostering panic and in this
33:16case the press e as I said they don't
33:19even identify the ideology of the people
33:22who are looting it's still protest and
33:25it's still this lie that the police and
33:29America are are a profoundly racist but
33:33the left control the media and this is
33:35the normative message that they wish to
33:37give it's a it's a very it's a very
33:40terrible problem thank God there are
33:43brilliant and deep and honest voices
33:46that are not the mainstream media in the
33:48United States and they they are large
33:52following we are one of those with a
33:54large following
33:55but Prager um I'm speaking of including
33:58people in Britain who follow us but the
34:01they're doing everything they can to
34:04suppress us Facebook just labeled one of
34:09our videos on the number of polar bears
34:14as false news and so anyone who passes
34:19that on in Facebook is now a false news
34:24purveyor this is new in in in history
34:27that and by the way I would never pass
34:32false news I am a religious person my
34:35deepest value is truth
34:38scientists differ on the number of polar
34:41bears but you can't say that because it
34:45doesn't conform to what the climate
34:48change advocates or or I should say
34:52hysterics and I think there is hysteria
34:56there every 12 years we told we have 12
34:58years till the earth is existentially
35:01destroyed
35:03Bill Gates just bought a forty three
35:05million dollar home on the coast
35:10why would anybody do that if they
35:12believe that the the ocean will inundate
35:15their home
35:16why do wealthy people keep buying
35:19coastal homes if in 12 years it'll be
35:23overrun by water um or how about this
35:28how can I believe you with regard to the
35:33the need to get off fossil fuel
35:35if you don't advocate nuclear power
35:37nuclear power is that is clean and
35:41unbelievably safe so you don't really
35:44believe it like the the horrible thing
35:50in Minneapolis oh we they use an issue
35:56to to expand government and undo
36:01capitalism and whatever else the left
36:03wants to do I want to stick on this
36:06stick with this idea for the media just
36:08for now what prey could you is doing in
36:11my opinion and this is just my view is
36:13totally revolutionary as a young person
36:16I'm just 20 years old and I watch you
36:19know have seen Praeger you videos think
36:20they're really interesting and they're
36:22really really easy to consume and I
36:26think your numbers show this there is
36:28huge demand for alternative media and in
36:33the UK I don't know how closely you
36:35follow I presume not too closely to our
36:37our media but we're forced to pay 150
36:39pounds every single year to the BBC
36:41which unfortunately is becoming more
36:43partisan it's becoming more like CNN or
36:47more like Fox News in America has this
36:50has have recent events to do with the
36:53pandemic and these protests and riots
36:56have they made you even more determined
36:58or more determined than ever to go on
37:02your mission to educate people to show
37:06that there is an alternative to the
37:08mainstream of course the answer is yes
37:13look
37:16on an emotional and personal level many
37:20years ago I visited Normandy Beach in
37:22France where the d-day invasion took
37:25place and when I saw the thousands of
37:28crosses for the dead men your age
37:33basically
37:36machine-gunned who are dated to death by
37:39the nazi german troops when they invaded
37:43Normandy Beach and I looked at it and I
37:46said to myself and it was very is a very
37:50important moment in my life these guys
37:54died for liberty and for America I could
38:00at least live for liberty and for
38:03America no one's asking me to die and
38:06that was a seminal moment in my life if
38:11they could die for my liberty and that's
38:15the issue of Liberty then I can live for
38:18it so yes I am as it will as it were I'm
38:24double downing but their attempts to
38:26shut us up are increasing tremendously
38:29with this Facebook false news thing with
38:33YouTube a dropping video YouTube dropped
38:35the video this was not Prager you
38:37YouTube drop the video of to emergency
38:40room physicians in California physicians
38:44emergency room physicians who said that
38:47the locked locked down this destruction
38:50of millions of people's lives was not
38:52medically necessary and YouTube took it
38:55down if you put up a something
39:00advocating the use of hydroxychloroquine
39:02and zinc it's taken down even if you're
39:05a doctor
39:09to Liberty in America and the West but
39:12I'll speak about America is the greatest
39:13it since 1776 and certainly the greatest
39:19civil war since the civil war over
39:22slavery that's how that's how bad it is
39:25it's it's literally a battle for liberty
39:27and let me just add one word liberty is
39:31a value not a yearning not an instinct
39:36people do not want Liberty nearly as
39:40much as they want to be taken care of
39:42that is why the lefthand so much appeal
39:45let us make this deal
39:48we take your Liberty we give you lunch
39:51and most people will say fine to give
39:55you context this question I want to talk
39:57about the rise of Prague anew which is a
39:59fantastic example of one of these as I
40:02mentioned earlier alternative media
40:05outlets and we've seen many commentators
40:07and media outlets be been hugely on the
40:10rise we've seen the rise of Jordan
40:12Peterson who sold his fantastic book 12
40:15rules for life to millions of people all
40:17over the world we've seen the rise of
40:18figures today I was interviewing Douglas
40:20Murray he's one of them and what people
40:22call what people describe as the
40:23intellectual dark web do you think that
40:26there has been a backlash against as
40:28what you described the censorship of
40:30many of these social media companies and
40:33the rise of hyper partisan media outlets
40:35in the year in the US and I just wanted
40:37to mention as well on the hydrochloric
40:39Coxon I can't pronounce that properly
40:41I've just on that on that drug it's
40:43turned out today that many of the
40:45reports about that have actually been
40:46false I don't know if you've seen this
40:48story and were published by The Lancet
40:50and the New England Medical Journal have
40:53actually turned out to be incorrect and
40:54false so when when YouTube censors these
40:57videos and Twitter censors these videos
40:59before actually having the proper facts
41:00then people can clearly see what's going
41:04on so do you think there's been a
41:05backlash recently against all of this
41:07censorship etc that we've been talking
41:09about clearly there's a backlash but
41:13when if if you had if you have a
41:17backlash against the tube
41:21in in London for whatever reason that
41:24they've just been incompetent and and
41:28discriminating against people people by
41:31race or whatever what are you going to
41:34do build your own tube not without
41:38YouTube without Google without Facebook
41:40without Twitter we can't get our word
41:42out so backlash or no backlash they have
41:46all the cards uh that's that's the issue
41:50to me
41:51people say often though why does it
41:53Prager you build you know and and other
41:55and others who are not on the Left build
41:58their own web but then we won't get to
42:00everybody mmm Prager you gets to a lot
42:04of people and gets you to think twice
42:10because you've only been given one
42:13version of events out of life so yes I
42:17mean you mentioned people I adore you
42:19Douglas Murray he's made a preview video
42:21Jordan Peterson has made a preview video
42:24these are spectacular people by the way
42:27these are courageous brilliant people
42:29and the the proof of the need to shut us
42:33up is they don't debate us it is
42:38remarkable they don't even Ivor national
42:41radio show with millions of listeners
42:42they won't come on and I am known for
42:45treating people I differ with with great
42:47respect I'm not there to humiliate them
42:50but they won't come on anyway we would
42:53love to go on their shows but they will
42:56not come on our shows they suppress they
42:59don't the debate they just throw a label
43:01false news a racist or or what-have-you
43:07so there there is a huge repository of
43:14intellect that is not on the left
43:17Jordan Peterson is a phenomenon and and
43:21he's not a political man uh it all start
43:26because in Canada he just said you know
43:28it's not you you can't bylaw tell me how
43:32to refer to people and and he's right
43:34that that what does the law have to do
43:37with whether I call you he or she or it
43:40or Z or or what or are they all these
43:43alternatives in in the United States if
43:47you say men cannot give birth you are
43:50considered a bigot I'm serious I'm sure
43:53I know it's in Britain too
43:56whatever reason the english-speaking
43:57countries are the worst right now
43:59Australia New Zealand the US Canada
44:02Britain it is I don't know why say it's
44:06an interesting phenomenon that if you
44:10say men cannot give birth in France
44:12they're not going to attack you well
44:16that's not some interesting it is
44:18interesting I I don't know the reason
44:21for it but the anglo-saxon if you will
44:23or the english-speaking countries are
44:25right now the the most suppressive of
44:28speech one of the groups that have been
44:31adding to the chorus shouting black
44:35lives matter and America is an
44:37institutionally racist country is in
44:39fact another country and that is China
44:41Communist China to be specific first of
44:44all do you find this ironic and second
44:48of all do you think this is part of the
44:50Chinese a Chinese attempt to embolden
44:53their power across the Western world and
44:55around the world in fact you're
44:56referring to when they call America
44:58racist correct they've been the Soviets
45:01used to do that all the time course if
45:04if you were a they had there were no
45:06blacks in the so if you so it's very
45:09easy not to be racists if you're all you
45:12know monochrome I did not know that
45:16China is now calling the u.s. racist but
45:20it is exactly an echo of what the
45:22Soviets did it is to deflect from their
45:26oppression of their own people what they
45:29what they're doing to Muslims in in
45:32China is obviously an example the the
45:35Oregon harvesting of prisoners that they
45:38do there it's a horrible regime and I
45:42pray I really to the extent that I don't
45:46tend to pray in this way but
45:47figuratively
45:48I pray that humanity will awaken to the
45:52threat of the Communist Chinese regime
45:54poses to what the civilization and
45:59directly to Hong Kong I mean you know
46:03the only mistake I think Margaret
46:06Thatcher ever made was honoring the
46:08agreement to give Hong Kong to China I
46:12know I was he you know a young guy but I
46:16knew it's inconceivable they will allow
46:20Hong Kong to stay free
46:23it would be it would be unprecedented in
46:25the history of communism and that's what
46:29they're now trying to do essentially
46:31incorporate it into Chinese law and
46:34suppression I also the the most
46:38interesting question will be if they do
46:42something militarily against Taiwan how
46:46will the West react
46:48IIIi believe that it is worth making a
46:51war over Taiwan I I am among those who
46:57believe the famous phrase of the
47:00American Revolution give me liberty or
47:02give me death I want I want to do I
47:06rather die standing than live on my
47:10knees or something like that so this is
47:15a very big problem the Communist Chinese
47:18government which of course unleashed
47:19this virus on the world I'm not saying
47:22intentionally but but it was unleashed
47:24from there the point you made about
47:28Margaret Thatcher's it's one that I've
47:30never really thought about it and it's
47:31an interesting observation that many
47:34people point to the actions of for
47:36example Bill Clinton who was so eager to
47:40accept the China into the World Trade
47:42Organization and obviously various US
47:45presidents and British leaders and world
47:47you know Western leaders made various
47:49attempts over the last few decades to
47:51open up China's markets to Western
47:54markets so how much how much do you put
47:57blame at the the door of Western leaders
47:59as to the situation we now have with
48:02China being one of the most powerful
48:04countries on earth people believe what
48:08they want to believe that's they don't
48:12they don't believe something because
48:14it's true nearly as much as because they
48:17want to believe it so this truly foolish
48:20doctrine arose if we bring China into
48:24the World Economic Community their
48:29prosperity and their being with the West
48:32will clearly and inevitably make them a
48:36freer country the this this is there's
48:41no basis for that belief they said that
48:43with Iran let's let's bring them into
48:46the world community and then they they
48:48you know they'll just westernize a bit
48:50there is no it never happens
48:53you have to confront evil you cannot
48:56accommodate it but I know that I am
49:00talking into the wind when I say that
49:02people don't like to confront
49:06that's why what my favorite verse from
49:07the Bible is those who love God must
49:10hate evil people don't hate evil you
49:14know who they hate the people who fight
49:16evil you've done a lot of research on
49:21the Soviet Union which is which is a
49:23really interesting case Communist China
49:26obviously was around at the same time of
49:29the Soviet Union under Chairman Mao tens
49:31of millions of Chinese people died of
49:34starvation and through other horrible
49:38ways that the regime unfortunately
49:39enacted on its own people yet the the
49:43reaction from the West to China and the
49:47reaction from the West to the Soviet
49:49Union was so vastly different why they
49:53we we in the West assumed the Soviet
49:56Union posed a potentially existential
49:59threat with their nuclear capability and
50:03they were so they were so much more
50:06advanced economically than China there
50:10was a fear that they could make a war
50:12nobody fought Mao could make a war on
50:15the West he could as you pointed out I
50:18believe it's about 60 million people
50:20some say 80 million people I mean some
50:22scholars what he did to his own people
50:25is beyond belief
50:28but that's the reason there was no real
50:30fear of China in the international arena
50:34so the focus you're quite right
50:38was on the Soviet Union I want to finish
50:43the interview by asking a question about
50:45religion it's a bit of a cheeky question
50:48so forgive me you're a deeply religious
50:50man
50:51and the President of the United States
50:54recently did a photo op with a Bible
50:57outside of a church he was president
51:00Trump was was interviewed about religion
51:02he was asked what is your favorite bible
51:04verse he couldn't name one he was asked
51:06what was your favorite
51:07what was your favorite version of the
51:09Bible was at the New Testament or the
51:10Old Testament he said I think I have to
51:13go for both of them equally do you feel
51:15that he is a religious man it's not my
51:19business to determine that and I never
51:22evade questions I don't I don't care if
51:25he's an atheist or or a firm believer
51:30if I care that people understand that
51:33without God and the Bible America will
51:39sink not because God will punish us I
51:41don't believe in I think that's nonsense
51:44the United States was founded on a
51:46limited government the founders
51:49understood the following people are not
51:52basically good that's the most important
51:54thing people have to understand if you
51:56think human nature is good then it's
51:59dialogue become silly we we perceive the
52:04world 180 degrees opposite human nature
52:08is not good I don't say it's pure evil
52:10is good in human nature but human nature
52:12is not good so to be free people have to
52:16that have to be controlled men have to
52:22be controlled because unchecked they
52:26will murder and they will rape that's
52:28just the way life is so so we have to
52:32get men to be good and women to be good
52:34and the founders said look we have a
52:38choice the government can control people
52:40or God can control people so the only
52:44way to get government small is to make
52:46God big and as God has gotten smaller in
52:50Western life Britain u.s. France it
52:53doesn't matter government's have gotten
52:54bigger that's the way it works
52:57secularism breeds big government because
53:00somebody has to fill the gap that the
53:03absence of God has made we in America it
53:08was an amazing group of people they said
53:12God wants us to be free on the Liberty
53:16Bell the iconic symbol of the American
53:18Revolution is is one thing written and
53:21it's from the Bible from the Old
53:23Testament Leviticus 25:10 and you shall
53:28proclaim Liberty throughout the land to
53:30all its inhabitants they tie God and
53:34freedom together if we get rid of God in
53:37American life we will end up less free
53:40Trump in some way understands this
53:43whether he believes in God or not
53:46therefore is it irrelevant to me I much
53:49rather have an agnostic president who
53:52understands the need for God and Bible
53:55in America to a religious president who
53:59doesn't understand that need I know that
54:03thank you very much Dennis Prager for
54:04joining us I really appreciate your time
54:06truly my pleasure thank you
54:15you

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