Delayed reaction Episodic Pivots — Transcript
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- 0:00what happens to an episodic pivot or
- 0:03earnings breakout after the earnings St
- 0:06is a very important thing because a lot
- 0:08of time on the earnings day the stock
- 0:11makes a big move but it doesn't follow
- 0:14through and this is a very common thing
- 0:17because uh what is happening nowadays is
- 0:21that earnings news leads to a very big
- 0:24gap and when earning news leads to a big
- 0:27gap total move is the stock is capable
- 0:31of making gets priced in on the day one
- 0:35and then after that or it happens for
- 0:38two or 3 days and after that the stock
- 0:40doesn't have anything left in the tank
- 0:43or the stock just doesn't do anything it
- 0:45just like it goes sideways or it pulls
- 0:48back or it just like a uh for months it
- 0:52will not do anything and then after that
- 0:56it has a delayed reaction so this
- 0:59delayed reaction to earnings or a
- 1:02delayed reaction to an episodic pivot is
- 1:05a good setup variation which is good to
- 1:09trade in markets current markets or the
- 1:12markets which are nowadays uh in if
- 1:15you're trading say episodic P kind of a
- 1:17methodology 20 years ago or 25 years ago
- 1:21uh this was not such a popular way setup
- 1:25kind of a thing or earnings related
- 1:26strategies were not so popular uh there
- 1:29were know algorithmic Traders trading
- 1:32earnings or things like that at such a
- 1:35industrial scale like it is today so
- 1:38today if a stock comes out with an
- 1:40earnings there are these news
- 1:42interpretation algorithms which
- 1:44immediately read the news as soon as it
- 1:46is released and then can project how
- 1:48much the stock is going to go up and
- 1:50that's why you'll see explosive moves in
- 1:52the after hours and that is why lot of
- 1:54trading in this kind of earnings moves
- 1:57has moved into after hours or pre-market
- 2:00now let's look at some of the examples
- 2:02what happens like when you get into a
- 2:05trade and nothing happens after that and
- 2:07the trade just like and it doesn't do
- 2:09anything and this is very common also on
- 2:12second or third EPS the first time it
- 2:15works very well but the second time uh
- 2:17it doesn't really happen that way so
- 2:19let's look at like one of the things
- 2:20like deers is a basically earning play
- 2:23which work very well here now here
- 2:25there's an earnings but on the earnings
- 2:28day itself the stock went up so much 14%
- 2:31And then after that it doesn't really it
- 2:33really didn't do much and it's been
- 2:35doing nothing since then basically and
- 2:37now it's this might be the delayed
- 2:39reaction kind of a thing another stock
- 2:42iot had a very good earnings earnings
- 2:45day stock makes a big move right nothing
- 2:47happens stock just like and it pulls
- 2:49back then like and it pulls back and
- 2:51then after months the stock makes this
- 2:54move so delayed reaction and this stock
- 2:56has a history of doing that earlier also
- 2:58it had big move big gap on earnings and
- 3:02nothing happens and this can be very
- 3:03frustrating and this is why you have to
- 3:06conceptualize and use this trade uh or
- 3:10look at this trade as a two part trades
- 3:12one part is what happens on the day of
- 3:14the earnings and second part is what
- 3:17happens after that and how to trade the
- 3:18second part of the move if there is a
- 3:20good Catalyst another stock which is
- 3:23recently had a very good Catalyst uh the
- 3:26Catalyst was good but then what happened
- 3:30is that this particular stock on the day
- 3:32of the Catalyst itself went up 56% so
- 3:36when a catalyst is so strong and it goes
- 3:38up 56% on the day of the earnings itself
- 3:42after that it hardly made much of a move
- 3:45and then see yesterday it like and ended
- 3:47up uh almost reversing some of the games
- 3:49so this kind of a stock for this kind of
- 3:53setups here also you'll see earnings was
- 3:56there it didn't really it did do well
- 3:58last time uh this earnings it just went
- 4:01up for 2 three days and so lot of these
- 4:04earnings related trades are going to
- 4:06fall into this category where they get
- 4:09prized in or things get prized in in one
- 4:11day next tracker right and you see big
- 4:15move happened 2 days the stock went up
- 4:18and after that nothing really happened
- 4:20the stock went down and now today there
- 4:23is an earnings on this and it might go
- 4:25up a based on that earnings again so
- 4:28delayed reaction to earn earnings
- 4:30Delayed Reaction which is like and you
- 4:32don't really or you trade that stock on
- 4:35the day of the earning just as a one or
- 4:37two days trade because it makes such an
- 4:39explosive move and then wait for a
- 4:42delayed reaction is a very good setup
- 4:45variation for episodic pivot and in
- 4:48order to do that the way you can keep
- 4:51track of these stocks which are good
- 4:53earnings is to create some sort of a
- 4:55scan for stocks which reacted positively
- 4:59to earn or which had good earnings and
- 5:02then keep it them in a watch list and
- 5:04continuously look for them for a delayed
- 5:08reaction this also works very well the
- 5:09delayed reaction works very well on the
- 5:12short side because on the short side
- 5:13what happens is when there is a negative
- 5:15news the stocks tends to drop
- 5:18significantly on the day when it drops
- 5:20significantly there are always these
- 5:21people who are going to cover their
- 5:23shorts or there are people who are
- 5:25constantly buying weaknesses or their
- 5:27core methodologies to buy a stock
- 5:30which has gone down a lot and then it
- 5:32bounces back but after some days the
- 5:35bounce gets over and then the move
- 5:39starts down again let me show you an
- 5:41example uh of this uh
- 5:45M
- 5:50MBL now MBL had a earnings which was
- 5:53like and it missed earning guided down
- 5:55uh but immediately it bounced and 3 4
- 5:58days it bounced and after after that it
- 6:00went down so delayed reaction uh
- 6:04episodic p on short side uh sometimes
- 6:07like an you can get a second entry like
- 6:10Accenture had like this drop and then
- 6:13rallied and then here offered you an
- 6:16entry so keeping an eye on stocks which
- 6:19had episodic p and those episodic PS
- 6:22after they happened uh after 5 6 7even
- 6:26sometimes after a month they make the
- 6:28moves and that gives you another second
- 6:32chance to make money from the stocks
- 6:34which had good earning so what I do is I
- 6:37create uh a watch list of stocks which
- 6:41has reacted positively for one or two
- 6:43days to earnings and then keep an eye on
- 6:45them keep an eye and keep an eye and if
- 6:47they set up either as a shot or set up
- 6:50as a delayed reaction then I try and
- 6:52enter them as a delayed reaction and
- 6:54this is becoming more and more frequent
- 6:57uh thing in this market Market current
- 7:01years so delayed reaction EP is a setup
- 7:04variation of EP which offers you a lower
- 7:07risk entry and delayed means like after
- 7:10a few days typically uh most of these
- 7:13stocks will make give you an entry
- 7:15within next 10 days or 15 days of having
- 7:18an earnings like say uh you have the
- 7:21stock currently recently SG which had
- 7:25like a very positive reaction to
- 7:27earnings but then again the stock went
- 7:30up almost 40% on the earnings day and
- 7:32now the stock is not doing anything so
- 7:35it might set up as a delayed reaction uh
- 7:38earnings the volume was very high and
- 7:41that kind of a stock is capable of like
- 7:44making a second leg or a third leg kind
- 7:46of a move obviously you're looking for a
- 7:47second leg you're not looking for a
- 7:49third leg kind of a move so if you're
- 7:51trading episodic P or arnings reaction
- 7:54kind of a trading uh look at Delayed
- 7:58Reaction setup as
- 7:59something to add to your Arsenal because
- 8:03stocks are having very large moves on
- 8:05the day of the earnings then they go up
- 8:07for one or two days and then nothing
- 8:10happens so you trade that stock on the
- 8:12earnings day or on the EP day just as a
- 8:16one day phenomena or two day phenomena
- 8:18and then uh wait for a delayed reaction
- 8:22set up and some people might be better
- 8:24off not even trading it on the first day
- 8:27because the first day moves are so fast
- 8:29and so difficult to get in you need a
- 8:31wider stop while the delayed reaction uh
- 8:33you're watching that stock so you can
- 8:35get a better stop and you can get a
- 8:37better risk reward strategy so delayed
- 8:40reaction EP as a variation of the EP is
- 8:43a good strategy to look at for those of
- 8:45you who already know what an episodic p
- 8:49is and are trading episodic Poots
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