Deepwater Horizon - May 19, 2010 - Hardball-Crude Response-Tony Hayward — Transcript

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1. 0:00mental impact of this disaster as lights
2. 0:01have been very very modest
3. 0:03it's impossible to say and we will
4. 0:05mount as part of the aftermath a very
5. 0:08detailed
6. 0:10environmental assessment
7. 0:12as we go forward but all everything we
8. 0:14can see at the moment suggests that the
9. 0:17overall environmental impact of this
10. 0:19will be very very modest
11. 0:21perhaps modest over in england but in
12. 0:23this hemisphere over here the gulf of
13. 0:26mexico is turning to oil let me
14. 0:29look at that map we're showing how he
15. 0:30could follow the loop current as it's
16. 0:32called up the east coast and destroy the
17. 0:34east coast as well let me bring on an
18. 0:36expert before you john let's hear from
19. 0:37michael broon what do you make first of
20. 0:39all the politics of this rush limbaugh
21. 0:41who seems to be as of this moment still
22. 0:43the recognized head of the republican
23. 0:45party on matters everywhere what do you
24. 0:48make of him blaming you for the oil
25. 0:49spill uh you know rush limbaugh is
26. 0:51always good for a good belly laugh you
27. 0:54know we think that the issue here is
28. 0:56what bp is saying it just shows that
29. 0:58their recklessness doesn't extend
30. 1:00extends well beyond their oil drilling i
31. 1:02was down in the gulf and the pollution
32. 1:04that we're seeing there this the oil
33. 1:06plume that's just on the surface it goes
34. 1:09for miles and miles and miles and it is
35. 1:11a disaster through and through
36. 1:14well let me ask you about this uh about
37. 1:16the do you think they're doing a good
38. 1:17job
39. 1:18i mean i don't think they're doing
40. 1:19anything but what do you think they're
41. 1:21doing is there technology available
42. 1:23perhaps at great cost
43. 1:25dumping huge amounts of cement for
44. 1:27example on that site isn't there
45. 1:29something we would do if we thought
46. 1:30there was a nuclear bomb ready to go off
47. 1:32down there wouldn't we take extreme
48. 1:34stacks i don't sense they're operating
49. 1:36as if this is an extreme problem they're
50. 1:38sort of doing their best i suppose but
51. 1:40they're not doing it
52. 1:42no they're they're not doing it but to
53. 1:44be fair there are there are workers for
54. 1:46bp and for others right now who are
55. 1:48working around the clock to try to fix
56. 1:50this the reality is that you just you
57. 1:52can't contain a mess of this size it's
58. 1:54it's it's very difficult because it's
59. 1:56never been done before and that's why
60. 1:58the sierra club has been arguing for
61. 1:59decades that offshore oil drilling in
62. 2:02shallow or deep water is highly risky
63. 2:05and we can't drill our way to energy and
64. 2:07energy independence and so
65. 2:09we need to be focusing on a real
66. 2:11solution to america's oil addiction and
67. 2:12hopefully that will come as a result of
68. 2:14this disaster look i'm worried about
69. 2:15what's happening what we're watching now
70. 2:16not the long-term problem i want that
71. 2:18fixed i don't know why we can't fix it
72. 2:20john jones why can't we fix it are they
73. 2:22doing it their best
74. 2:24i think they are doing their best i have
75. 2:26no evidence chris that anybody is is you
76. 2:28know
77. 2:29holding back uh that there's more that
78. 2:31that could be done i and i kind of defer
79. 2:33to michael on this one i i think that
80. 2:35they're trying very hard i think people
81. 2:37are working hard but it's too late and
82. 2:39you know the really horrible thing in
83. 2:41all this is that there there's been
84. 2:43evidence that there was an accident
85. 2:45coming 60 minutes did an amazing segment
86. 2:47on this showing that they knew that
87. 2:49there was some defect with the blowout
88. 2:52preventer and they didn't fix it they
89. 2:55just kept drilling deeper and deeper and
90. 2:56for rush to say that the sierra club
91. 2:59wants them to drill deeper is just
92. 3:01preposterous deeper drilling is riskier
93. 3:03drilling bp push to drill deeper without
94. 3:06safety controls and they are completely
95. 3:09culpable for this
96. 3:10why didn't they fill with drilling mud
97. 3:12instead of seawater right up about
98. 3:14michael i'm sorry was your question
99. 3:16why didn't they fill it with drilling
100. 3:18mud before they before they capped it
101. 3:20they're blaming all this on the bop the
102. 3:21blow up preventer why didn't they jam
103. 3:22all the dirt in there they used to do it
104. 3:24that way that's the recognized way to do
105. 3:26it why didn't they do it it's standard
106. 3:28operating procedure because bp is trying
107. 3:30to maximize profits from from this
108. 3:32particular operation like they try to do
109. 3:33everywhere else they're cutting corners
110. 3:35and now we see what the what the
111. 3:37consequences of that are the the problem
112. 3:39one of the problems just one of the
113. 3:40problems here is that there's not
114. 3:42effective oversight there's not an
115. 3:44effective regulatory mechanism obama was
116. 3:46right in saying that the relationship
117. 3:48between government the government
118. 3:50regulators and the oil industry is far
119. 3:52too cozy we have to separate oil and
120. 3:54state this is the there's no oversight
121. 3:57on a highly risky
122. 3:59a very dangerous and what we now see is
123. 4:01a very deadly process it's uh
124. 4:03it's a tragedy for the environment but
125. 4:05it's it's a tragedy for the the families
126. 4:06of the workers who are killed
127. 4:09my work joan i have no confidence we
128. 4:11have regulation by the government i have
129. 4:12no confidence that we have
130. 4:13self-regulation here i have no
131. 4:15confidence that they're going to fix
132. 4:17this problem i have only the fear that
133. 4:19this is going to go on and on and on and
134. 4:22we're going to destroy our east coast
135. 4:24it's just going to keep going and the
136. 4:26president's going to sit and watch it
137. 4:27like he's a vatican advisor at some
138. 4:29point we either move in there bring the
139. 4:31seabees in bring i don't know the army
140. 4:34corps whoever we have at our disposal
141. 4:36and put i'd like to put all those i've
142. 4:38said it before i like to take those ceos
143. 4:40and put them down there a mile and make
144. 4:42them stay down there the problems fixed
145. 4:43i know that sounds a bit extreme but
146. 4:45nothing seems to be getting done here
147. 4:47and they're sitting home chomping on
148. 4:48their stakes and their profits and this
149. 4:50is still getting worse and it's getting
150. 4:52worse and worse it's getting worse and
151. 4:54worse and ridiculously they're pointing
152. 4:56the fingers at one another and saying
153. 4:57it's not my fault it's his fault you
154. 4:59know i i'm i don't want to be cynical
155. 5:01about this chris i believe that good
156. 5:04government oversight can happen and i
157. 5:06believe that when government pays
158. 5:07attention corporate america pays
159. 5:09attention to they don't want people to
160. 5:11die they want to make money they i know
161. 5:13this sounds naive of me they don't want
162. 5:15people to die this was a horrible thing
163. 5:17and i think it's also unfortunate that
164. 5:19president obama had recently come out
165. 5:21and said he supports oil drilling when
166. 5:22he knows better the only way to make
167. 5:24sure this doesn't happen is to really
168. 5:26crack down on oil drilling it is unsafe
169. 5:29it is unnecessary and we'll see more
170. 5:30accidents like this if we keep it up
171. 5:33okay let me ask you mike a bottom line
172. 5:34are they going to open the cap and
173. 5:36they're going to let these sides off
174. 5:36with 75 million
175. 5:38uh no i can't imagine that that would
176. 5:40happen right now what we expect we'll
177. 5:42see tighter safety regulations there'll
178. 5:44be a a much higher cap and what we
179. 5:46should be seeing is executives like the
180. 5:48bp's ceo prosecuted and thrown in jail
181. 5:51this is what's happening in the gulf is
182. 5:53criminal and there better be
183. 5:54accountability
184. 5:55so what do you think we should do do you
185. 5:57think to see who else should go to jail
186. 5:58the board of directors the management
187. 6:00who because somebody decided not to
188. 6:02follow the regular procedure it's
189. 6:04management i'm tired of hearing
190. 6:05technology being blamed management
191. 6:08presides over the use of technology
192. 6:10everything that's ever gone wrong in
193. 6:11this industry has gone wrong before and
194. 6:13have set up protocols to deal with it
195. 6:15they didn't follow the protocols they
196. 6:16didn't file the management procedures
197. 6:18that's what happens when things go wrong
198. 6:19this idea this the first time this has
199. 6:21ever happened is crazy this happens
200. 6:23around the world you got to be ready for
201. 6:24it joan there's a political problem for
202. 6:26the president i don't like his
203. 6:28laissez-faire attitude about this i
204. 6:30don't like him stepping back and letting
205. 6:31the heat go on the oil company when the
206. 6:34damage is being done to us not the oil
207. 6:36company i think he needs to step back in
208. 6:39i think he had a few days of sounding
209. 6:40you know very resolute and very uh very
210. 6:43much leaning on the oil companies but
211. 6:45you know it's the republicans i gotta
212. 6:46say here chris it's the republicans who
213. 6:48are opposed to lifting the liability cap
214. 6:51you know after they railed against
215. 6:52bailouts because frank luntz told them
216. 6:54americans don't like bailouts if it were
217. 6:56up to the republican party the taxpayer
218. 6:58would be bailing out bp not the other
219. 7:01way around so i think they've got to
220. 7:02fight to make sure that they pay that
221. 7:04they're responsible for paying for the
222. 7:05cleanup and then they've got to fight
223. 7:06for better regulation and you're right i
224. 7:08do want to see president obama out okay
225. 7:11i want to see harry truman in the white
226. 7:12house right now i want harry truman to
227. 7:14come back and do the job because if this
228. 7:15was the the cold companies or something
229. 7:17else we really depended on the president
230. 7:19would intervene thank you michael broon
231. 7:21and but get on this stick michael by the
232. 7:22way you don't seem that excited about
233. 7:24this
234. 7:25we're counting on guys like you john
235. 7:26walsh thank you