DEBORAH SECCO: COMO ELA INVESTE E MULTIPLICA DINHEIRO! — Transcript

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1. 0:00For many years, acting was the only
2. 0:01thing I knew how to do.
3. 0:03I thought I would act forever, that it
4. 0:05would fulfill me forever.
5. 0:08Even within my artistic field, if I
6. 0:09really wanted to build financial
7. 0:11independence, it wasn't going to be by
8. 0:12acting, it would be by producing, by
9. 0:14building, right?
10. 0:16Uh, even artistic possibilities for
11. 0:18myself.
12. 0:19>> Uh-huh. My savings are small, because
13. 0:20here we don't encourage savings, right?
14. 0:22The savings product. So it's
15. 0:24>> so, for example, I have Renova, which is
16. 0:26a partner company that does glute
17. 0:28fillers.
18. 0:28>> Oh,
19. 0:30>> it went to all the gossip pages.
20. 0:32>> Oh, my God.
21. 0:32>> That in terms of money, right?
22. 0:35The name of the play "Peça Rara"
23. 0:36reverberating and us actually bursting
24. 0:38the bubble of who follows us, maybe we
25. 0:40can't even measure how valuable that is
26. 0:41in money.
27. 0:43>> I'm losing money.
28. 0:44>> Yes, it is.
29. 0:45>> Why did you call me that, Débora?
30. 0:47>> Please.
31. 0:57The catapult of wealth, the antivirus of
32. 0:59poverty, the eye drops for your
33. 1:01financial life are on the air. Another
34. 1:03incredible Me Poupe 89.
35. 1:05I'm Natália Arcuri, founder of Me Poupe
36. 1:07. And with me, our quota of poverty.
37. 1:11Today a little bit poorer, because
38. 1:12honestly, the reference today is a bit
39. 1:14difficult, heavy for you, Yuri. Our
40. 1:16guest, actually. Why? Just to understand
41. 1:18why.
42. 1:19Our guest brought: shine, glamour, power
43. 1:22, wealth, professionalism, something
44. 1:24that sometimes is missing, isn't it true
45. 1:27?
46. 1:28>> It's true that today she won't just give
47. 1:30, she will distribute.
48. 1:31>> Excuse me?
49. 1:32>> You didn't get it, did you?
50. 1:33>> Our guest will explain it to you later.
51. 1:38>> Yeah, I think I missed that joke.
52. 1:39>> Yeah, no, you didn't miss it. Yeah, it's
53. 1:41famous. You'll understand why soon.
54. 1:43>> Okay.
55. 1:44But first I want to introduce who I'm
56. 1:45talking about.
57. 1:47She owns and is a partner in six
58. 1:49companies and has three other collabs.
59. 1:53In other words, when you join like this
60. 1:56, you make a kind of strategic
61. 1:58partnership, her face, her image, her
62. 2:00professionalism, her persona delivers
63. 2:02value to many brands in Brazil today.
64. 2:06And she was a surprise to me, because
65. 2:08she has a brilliant entrepreneurial mind
66. 2:11.
67. 2:12We are talking about her, famous,
68. 2:15beautiful, hot, Deborah Secco.
69. 2:23>> Hi, Deborah.
70. 2:24>> I was even speechless with that whole
71. 2:26introduction.
72. 2:26>> I overdid it a little because, you know
73. 2:28, it's not every day we have a celebrity
74. 2:30. It's not every day we have one,
75. 2:32usually it's just me and Yuri and Cadu.
76. 2:33Like,
77. 2:34>> The bar is pretty low, right?
78. 2:36>> Never. No, it’s a privilege, I’m so
79. 2:39happy to be here.
80. 2:41>> You’re someone I admire more and more,
81. 2:43so being here today is a win for me.
82. 2:46>> Oh, come on, Débora. I really wanted to
83. 2:49bring you here because we recently did a
84. 2:51panel together at an event here in São
85. 2:53Paulo, SP2B, and I was able to interview
86. 2:55Débora, right? I moderated a panel and I
87. 2:58was shocked because I didn't know this
88. 3:00side of you as a businesswoman.
89. 3:03And I said: "I want more people to know
90. 3:06this, especially the strategic part of
91. 3:09using a successful career in the media
92. 3:12as an actress."
93. 3:15"In what way did you know how to use
94. 3:18these resources you already have, the
95. 3:20name you built, to start creating
96. 3:23another career path?"
97. 3:25We talk so much about career transition
98. 3:26these days, don't we?
99. 3:28So that’s my goal here today, so that
100. 3:31anyone—the ride-share drivers listening
101. 3:34to us, the housewives, the businesswomen
102. 3:36, the executives—can understand, "Wow,
103. 3:39there’s an insight I didn't know."
104. 3:43And to start, how do you manage to do
105. 3:45series, soap operas, and still be a
106. 3:47hands-on partner—because it's not like
107. 3:49you just lent your name and left—
108. 3:52participating in six businesses plus
109. 3:54three collabs?
110. 3:55What is that routine like?
111. 3:57>> Oh, it’s a crazy routine and I’m still
112. 3:59learning how to handle it, right? This
113. 4:01is all new to me. I started my career,
114. 4:03I’m 40...I’ll be celebrating 40 years of
115. 4:06my career next year.
116. 4:08Yeah,
117. 4:08>> yeah, man,
118. 4:09>> right? No, wait, how?
119. 4:11>> The math doesn't add up.
120. 4:13I started at eight.
121. 4:14>> Wow.
122. 4:15>> And next year I’ll be 48 with 40 years
123. 4:18of career. For many years, acting was
124. 4:21the only thing I knew how to do. And I
125. 4:23thought I would act forever, that it
126. 4:25would fulfill me forever.
127. 4:27But a good
128. 4:3110 years ago, I think 11 years ago, I
129. 4:33started to understand that the internet
130. 4:35was going to change this market a lot. I
131. 4:37got pregnant, had my daughter, and
132. 4:39thought a lot about security and
133. 4:40financial independence, right?
134. 4:42The need to really be able to guide my
135. 4:44life passed directly through my
136. 4:46financial independence.
137. 4:49And I understood that I had a
138. 4:50comfortable salary and that I could live
139. 4:52off that, but if I wanted to make
140. 4:54millions, it would have to be somewhere
141. 4:56else, right? There are millions of other
142. 4:58ways to make money, different from the
143. 5:00place I was in back then.
144. 5:03>> being hired by a company to, you know,
145. 5:05play a character even within my artistic
146. 5:07field, if I really wanted to build that
147. 5:09financial independence, it wasn't going
148. 5:11to be by acting, it would be by
149. 5:13producing, by building, you know, eh,
150. 5:15even artistic possibilities for myself.
151. 5:19So, my mindset started to change, I
152. 5:21began to open my eyes to these other
153. 5:23universes and was very generously guided
154. 5:25by life.
155. 5:27I ended up alongside people I admire a
156. 5:29lot and from whom I learned so much.
157. 5:31>> And things just kept moving forward and
158. 5:33working out.
159. 5:34And when I realized it, I had already
160. 5:36made this transition, eh, even before
161. 5:38having a strategy for it, you know?
162. 5:42I think today I do build a strategy to
163. 5:44strengthen this, but I believe that
164. 5:47transition happened very organically.
165. 5:50>> So tell me, where do you have a stake
166. 5:54today?
167. 5:55I'm sure that people, you know, anywhere
168. 5:58in Brazil are either consumers or have
169. 6:00already seen a company that Débora owns
170. 6:03.
171. 6:04Where is your stuff?
172. 6:05>> Today I have Peça Rara. We are the
173. 6:08largest thrift store chain in Brazil.
174. 6:10I'm very proud to say that.
175. 6:11There's Mais Cabelo, which is a hair
176. 6:13transplant and treatment company.
177. 6:16>> We already have over 60 units as well.
178. 6:18>> Important for you, huh?
179. 6:19>> Oh, you think so?
180. 6:20>> I think it's important.
181. 6:21>> Okay, okay.
182. 6:22>> You could even take advantage of the
183. 6:23Barbie thing and put it in other places
184. 6:24.
185. 6:25>> Thanks, Deba.
186. 6:25>> It's a lot. I had an eyebrow transplant
187. 6:28, look.
188. 6:29>> Hair and I transplanted it to my
189. 6:31eyebrows,
190. 6:31>> didn't I? Seriously?
191. 6:33>> I wanted them thicker and I wanted them
192. 6:34in a different shape. So I removed them
193. 6:36, they were very arched, and I designed
194. 6:38them straighter.
195. 6:40>> Give me the number later. I want a
196. 6:42discount coupon. Discount coupon on my
197. 6:45Instagram.
198. 6:48Yeah, so we have Peça Rara, Mais Cabelo
199. 6:50, and we have Espaço Facial, which is a
200. 6:52chain of facial treatments and
201. 6:53procedures.
202. 6:54We also have over 70 units, but we're
203. 6:57starting to expand outside of Rio de
204. 6:59Janeiro. We started only there and now
205. 7:01we have them in some other places too.
206. 7:04There's a bikini brand that I'm in the
207. 7:06middle of a transition, I'm
208. 7:07repositioning it, recreating it,
209. 7:09rebuilding it.
210. 7:11I have Deb Cosméticos, which is a line
211. 7:13of cosmetics with my name, and I have
212. 7:15Aceleraí, where I'm partners with Alan
213. 7:17Barros, which is a
214. 7:19>> a company for the democratization of
215. 7:21advertising.
216. 7:22So the artist goes there, records
217. 7:24generic content, and we edit it for
218. 7:26small businesses outside the major hubs
219. 7:28and capitals.
220. 7:29>> It works. It's really cool.
221. 7:31>> I'm losing money.
222. 7:32>> Yes, you are.
223. 7:33>> Not you. Why didn't you call me, Débora
224. 7:35?
225. 7:35>> Please, you are
226. 7:35>> never on Acelera Aí. I totally want to.
227. 7:38Acelera Aí,
228. 7:39>> the artist is on. A small business over
229. 7:41in Mato Grosso do Sul
230. 7:43>> wants a commercial with you and, like,
231. 7:45it's not possible to do it. They go
232. 7:47there and hire Acelera.
233. 7:48Then you record, like, a book of phrases
234. 7:50, it's very cool.
235. 7:53We have a recording day, you record "
236. 7:54the best price, don't miss out, come
237. 7:56here," I don't know, we assemble
238. 7:58>> and edit and deliver an ad, and here's a
239. 8:01tip for you who own a small or medium
240. 8:03business,
241. 8:03>> you can have big artists. We have Glória
242. 8:05Pires, Cauã Reymond, Giovanna Antonelli
243. 8:08, me, Rodrigo Faro, anyway, many artists
244. 8:10.
245. 8:12I just won't do ads for banks, not small
246. 8:14, not medium, not large ones.
247. 8:15>> But that's it. Do you also put in your
248. 8:17portfolio what you're willing to sell
249. 8:19and what you're not? What you already
250. 8:20have exclusivity with other brands for.
251. 8:22I loved it.
252. 8:24>> I, for example, prefer to sell for, uh,
253. 8:26establishments than for products,
254. 8:28because I do a lot of advertising for
255. 8:30products, but for Joe's grocery store,
256. 8:33for a flower shop, those are businesses
257. 8:35that don't clash with the ones I already
258. 8:38have.
259. 8:39>> How cool.
260. 8:40>> And it ends up that I help many small
261. 8:41entrepreneurs leverage their businesses
262. 8:43with,
263. 8:45>> you know, things they wouldn't even
264. 8:47imagine they could hire, imagine having
265. 8:48Cauã Reymond advertise your steakhouse.
266. 8:51>> Wow. And me, look at my ignorance, what
267. 8:53it does, right? When I was in small
268. 8:54towns, right? And I saw a small business
269. 8:57using an image, I already thought it was
270. 8:59what? A scam.
271. 9:00>> Misuse of image. I'd send a photo to...
272. 9:03>> But we still have a long way to go.
273. 9:06>> Yeah, Acelera Aí is, is reasonably new.
274. 9:08We've been on the market for about 4
275. 9:10years, but it's a great idea, really,
276. 9:12because we have a very big Brazil, right
277. 9:14? Totally. And you think it won't work?
278. 9:17I talked to Barros too, we were saying,
279. 9:19no, how does it work? No, you record a
280. 9:21bunch of phrases, do it like this. No,
281. 9:22it doesn't work. When you, when you hit
282. 9:24play, you go, "that's not possible, man
283. 9:26." Sensational.
284. 9:27>> Yeah, I've always joked about this
285. 9:29Luciano Huck story, but take any Luciano
286. 9:31Huck commercial. I'm friends with
287. 9:33Luciano, so I can say that. He's always
288. 9:35like this, and then something appears
289. 9:37written over him.
290. 9:38>> He's on a green screen.
291. 9:41It's the same way. I said, guys, for any
292. 9:42ad he’s going to do, he sends the same
293. 9:45photo, puts a logo on it, and that’s it
294. 9:47. That’s it.
295. 9:47>> You look at him on TV, he’s gray-haired
296. 9:49. We do many things. We do it like this
297. 9:51, like this, like this, there are many.
298. 9:54>> November 9th you have an appointment
299. 9:56with me at the business table. Together
300. 9:58we will create the CEO handbook. Yes.
301. 10:02It doesn’t matter if you’re a service
302. 10:04provider, have an online store, a
303. 10:06physical shop, an agency, a practice,
304. 10:08anything.
305. 10:11If you are your own boss or lead others
306. 10:13, at 8 PM are the final tickets, the
307. 10:15last spots at this VIP table.
308. 10:18I'll leave the link below. 8 PM, be
309. 10:20there so we can build your CEO handbook
310. 10:23together.
311. 10:24The only people who don't have setbacks
312. 10:26along the way are those who don't
313. 10:27venture out, because entrepreneurship
314. 10:29means putting yourself at risk.
315. 10:32So, it's more than normal to go through
316. 10:34rough patches, but you also need to know
317. 10:36how to manage that, including learning
318. 10:37from mistakes so you don't repeat that
319. 10:39one at least, because the only certainty
320. 10:41you have is that another one will come
321. 10:43that you haven't mapped out yet.
322. 10:46>> And on this journey of yours, where did
323. 10:49a stumble happen?
324. 10:51>> Oh, many stumbles have happened, right?
325. 10:53I think I'll mention a few, I don't know
326. 10:56.
327. 10:57Bikinis, for example.
328. 10:59I I opened my bikini brand because I
329. 11:01liked a specific type of bikini, very
330. 11:02small, because I don't like to have tan
331. 11:04lines, because it gets in the way of my
332. 11:06characters.
333. 11:07Sometimes I'm doing a period drama,
334. 11:09>> you can't have tan lines. So, we made a
335. 11:11bikini size where almost all the pieces
336. 11:14sold were exchanged or returned because
337. 11:17it was a very, very, very small size.
338. 11:20>> I see.
339. 11:20>> I started to have, we had to remodel
340. 11:23everything, right?
341. 11:24Change the whole pattern to understand
342. 11:26that my body wasn't a standard body,
343. 11:28even though I said there, I wear XS,
344. 11:29right?
345. 11:31People bought M and would wear XL in my
346. 11:34brand. So, we had to reformulate
347. 11:36everything we had already uh structured
348. 11:38.
349. 11:39>> That had a cost,
350. 11:40>> That had a huge cost, right? You pattern
351. 11:43it, do everything.
352. 11:44>> And even for those who bought it and
353. 11:46didn't and didn't have a good experience
354. 11:48, their return is a cost, right? No, it
355. 11:50ends up being on us, right? Ah,
356. 11:53>> no, no, I mean them coming back to buy
357. 11:54again.
358. 11:55>> Yeah, exactly. But I think by talking
359. 11:56about it I was also able to demystify it
360. 11:58for those who bought,
361. 11:59>> like, saying, guys, I messed up, the
362. 12:01size is wrong, let's rethink this, right
363. 12:02? I think this open channel we have with
364. 12:05the public is very
365. 12:07>> I'll listen to the second struggle, but
366. 12:08I'll even note down what you just said
367. 12:10so we can bring it up later. And there
368. 12:11was more,
369. 12:12>> okay? Second struggle, I'll mention the
370. 12:14sale of Singu here. Imagine, we sold
371. 12:15Singu to a giant group, there was a goal
372. 12:17.
373. 12:18>> Singu was my first company. I was, uh,
374. 12:22>> invited by Thalis Gomes. He was my first
375. 12:25Media for Equity partner. I sort of
376. 12:27learned this business model with him
377. 12:28there.
378. 12:29>> Explain it first. I know there are many
379. 12:31explanations, but I want Débora to
380. 12:32explain it so you can open your mind.
381. 12:33Wow, I didn't know that existed.
382. 12:36>> Media for equity is a business format
383. 12:37where I enter the partnership without
384. 12:39having to contribute money.
385. 12:41I contribute my image and join as the
386. 12:44ambassador or as the face of the brand.
387. 12:47>> Because that would have a cost if they
388. 12:49were to hire you. ambassador. Usually
389. 12:52today I do this business format a lot,
390. 12:54it's actually my big business bet, right
391. 12:57?
392. 12:57I want to create a fund with 20 small
393. 12:59companies in this media for equity
394. 13:01format, it's about you joining a company
395. 13:04that wouldn't have the money to hire you
396. 13:06.
397. 13:07>> The company is still very small. That's
398. 13:09the case with Peça Rara. I joined Peça
399. 13:10Rara with seven stores. They wouldn't
400. 13:12have the money to have me as the face of
401. 13:14the brand or as the brand ambassador.
402. 13:17And so they give me a partnership in the
403. 13:20brand and I make this brand grow, right
404. 13:22? Then it becomes my greatest commitment
405. 13:24and my greatest interest to make this
406. 13:25brand grow. And I own it,
407. 13:28>> owner of X%of the company, and each
408. 13:30company has a format.
409. 13:31>> That's cool.
410. 13:33>> So Thalis introduced me to this format
411. 13:35at the time, it was also just starting,
412. 13:37and we very successfully sold it in less
413. 13:40than 2 years.
414. 13:41Wow, I was so happy, my first company,
415. 13:43I'm going to realize this gain, right?
416. 13:47And we had a goal to meet in the
417. 13:48contract so that those numbers would be
418. 13:51fulfilled.
419. 13:52It was a very simple goal to hit, right
420. 13:54? In two months, the pandemic.
421. 13:56>> Hmm.
422. 13:56>> And we had
423. 14:00an at-home beauty service and everyone
424. 14:04>> stuck at home. And so it was really a
425. 14:08>> And there was no negotiation regarding
426. 14:10that.
427. 14:11>> There wasn't. There was some negotiation
428. 14:13, but there wasn't.
429. 14:15They had the knife and the, you know,
430. 14:16everything in hand.
431. 14:17>> I see. So here you are,
432. 14:19>> but it was really unfortunate timing,
433. 14:21wasn't it? With everything ready.
434. 14:23There's nothing you can do.
435. 14:25The unforeseen is what you truly cannot
436. 14:28predict.
437. 14:29And I wanted to bring up two points from
438. 14:31what you said.
439. 14:32The first is humility, which is very
440. 14:34important for any businesswoman or
441. 14:36entrepreneur. It's recognizing the
442. 14:39mistake before the mistake swallows you
443. 14:41.
444. 14:41>> Yes.
445. 14:43Because if you keep insisting, no, my
446. 14:44bikini is great, it’s the best bikini,
447. 14:46they’re the ones who don't know how to
448. 14:48wear my bikini, that whole thing like,
449. 14:50I’m stubborn, who does she think she is
450. 14:52, you know that vibe?
451. 14:55No, I built a brand not thinking it
452. 14:57would grow, it was much more to fulfill
453. 14:59my desire to have the bikinis I wanted
454. 15:01to wear.
455. 15:03I realized it gained a bigger proportion
456. 15:05, and now I’ve stopped it, closed it to
457. 15:07reformulate, and I think I’ll even bring
458. 15:10it back with a new name and a new
459. 15:12branding, which is a bikini for everyone
460. 15:14, right?
461. 15:15>> Wonderful. Including for me, who has a
462. 15:17very small butt.
463. 15:18My savings account is small, because
464. 15:19here we don't encourage savings, right?
465. 15:21The savings product. So it's
466. 15:23>> like, for example, I have Renova, which
467. 15:25is a partner company that does gluteal
468. 15:26fillers.
469. 15:27>> Oh,
470. 15:28>> that could change your life. Let's super
471. 15:33>> Leonardo, let's bring Natália into our
472. 15:35wonderful squad of
473. 15:36>> It's for the butt,
474. 15:39>> I'm telling you, it's one of the biggest
475. 15:40gains in life. A, a, a gain in
476. 15:42self-esteem that I can't even measure.
477. 15:44Loved it.
478. 15:46But the savings product no, but a little
479. 15:49filler in the savings.
480. 15:51>> That's fine, it's a great investment.
481. 15:53Let's go.
482. 15:53>> Money isn't a savings account, but
483. 15:55hyaluronic acid we accept. It's take X
484. 15:57is the product. Whoa, it even fell.
485. 15:59>> Wow, there was a thing here on the
486. 16:00>> take X on the butt. We don't put in
487. 16:02savings, we don't
488. 16:03>> no, this is the savings that pays off.
489. 16:04Let's stop. Let's stop, for the love of
490. 16:06God.
491. 16:07>> The other one even knocked something
492. 16:08over. She got nervous over there.
493. 16:09Never-ending joke, right?
494. 16:11>> Oh, fifth grade humor. I didn't know I'd
495. 16:12find this here. I wasn't expecting it.
496. 16:14Ask a question, Yuri, because I'm a bit
497. 16:16rattled now.
498. 16:16>> No, we were talking about things that
499. 16:17went wrong. You stopped at Is there any
500. 16:19other one that? Ah,
501. 16:20>> there were many, right? I think even my
502. 16:22own stances, where I’d say something and
503. 16:24, I don’t know, my partners would say, "
504. 16:26Débora, it wasn't quite like that."
505. 16:28Let’s go, right?
506. 16:29Uh,
507. 16:31>> and I’d also debate, uh, with them,
508. 16:33right? Because it takes us a long time
509. 16:36to manage to explain.
510. 16:38I, who’ve lived in the media for, I
511. 16:40don’t know, almost 40 years, know that a
512. 16:43company can’t live on successes alone.
513. 16:47>> Uh-huh.
514. 16:48>> It needs some controversy, something
515. 16:50that gives, that generates conversation
516. 16:52, that generates, right?
517. 16:54So, for example, the other day I went to
518. 16:56do a podcast with Maia Massafera.
519. 16:59>> Uh-huh.
520. 16:59>> And I joked with her that I was going to
521. 17:01take the bags that they say are fake to
522. 17:02Peça Rara. I said, let's mix the real
523. 17:04ones with the fake ones. A joke.
524. 17:07She would never part with any piece from
525. 17:08that wardrobe, because she is the most
526. 17:10attached person in the world.
527. 17:12>> And then the guys at Peça Rara said: "
528. 17:14My God, fake pieces, we fight so hard
529. 17:16against that."
530. 17:17But look, of course it’s a joke, but the
531. 17:19power that it had, this clip
532. 17:22>> went to all the gossip pages. Oh, my God
533. 17:25.
534. 17:25>> In money terms, right?
535. 17:27The name Peça Rara, reverberating, uh,
536. 17:29and us actually bursting the bubble of
537. 17:31those who follow us, maybe we can't even
538. 17:33measure how valuable that is in money.
539. 17:36So, understanding that it’s a joke, it
540. 17:37wasn't serious, nobody took it as such,
541. 17:38right? We would never take that
542. 17:40seriously. And being able to promote the
543. 17:42brand name, to burst bubbles, right? Of
544. 17:44sometimes,
545. 17:45>> but it ended up being positive,
546. 17:46>> super positive, right? I think many
547. 17:48people ended up getting to know the
548. 17:50brand.
549. 17:51>> Yes.
550. 17:51>> People who had no idea that I owned a
551. 17:52thrift store, that, you know?
552. 17:54You really burst your bubble, because
553. 17:56today I have 26 million followers, but
554. 17:59if you count all the gossip pages, you
555. 18:01reach people who don't follow me, who
556. 18:04don't, right? Exactly.
557. 18:06So, when we talk, right, about promotion
558. 18:09, media, branding, just like in politics
559. 18:11—we just went through an election period
560. 18:14—there is indeed that bias: "speak well
561. 18:17, speak ill, but talk about me."
562. 18:20But there has to be much more balance
563. 18:22and consideration, in the "there is a
564. 18:24limit to 'speak ill'."
565. 18:25>> It’s an absolute limit, but you need to
566. 18:28know how to generate buzz, right, with
567. 18:30your brand,
568. 18:31>> to make noise.
569. 18:31>> And it's a joke, no, right? This would
570. 18:34never happen, right? Neither Maia nor us
571. 18:36would ever put those bags out there.
572. 18:38>> Uh, and I actually believe her, she
573. 18:40tells me they're all real and she always
574. 18:42says: "I paid the price of real ones for
575. 18:43all of them. If any of them aren't, I
576. 18:45was fooled." And I really believe that.
577. 18:47So, uh, uh, being able to burst your
578. 18:49bubble, being able to get your brand
579. 18:51name out there, we know what that costs
580. 18:53.
581. 18:54We know how much an influencer's post
582. 18:57costs nowadays.
583. 18:58You're everywhere, uh, uh, your brand is
584. 19:01being known, you all knowing that Débora
585. 19:04Seco has a thrift store chain, that is
586. 19:07very valuable.
587. 19:09>> If this video reaches 10,000 likes,
588. 19:11we'll release part two, because it's not
589. 19:12just anything, we have Débora Seco here
590. 19:14.
591. 19:15Keep your finger on that like button,
592. 19:16share it with everyone because it will
593. 19:17be worth it.
594. 19:23some rock
595. 19:24>> isn't it great, Débora Blando, that's
596. 19:27your nose
597. 19:31>> it's not rock
598. 19:32>> there's time. If everything's alright,
599. 19:34just take it easy, rock on. I'm even
600. 19:36going to check my playlist.