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1. 0:00They are a much more evolved movement
2. 0:02than all the others. They are better
3. 0:04than the PT supporters, the Bolsonaro
4. 0:06supporters, everyone. Thanks.
5. 0:07>> Thanks. Thank you. Thank you, okay?
6. 0:10Thank you. Thank you.
7. 0:13>> You are a spoiled brat. Extremely
8. 0:15spoiled. I'm I'm spoiled, a spoiled kid
9. 0:17. That's it. Extremely spoiled. Because
10. 0:20things have to be your way. That's my
11. 0:22perception.
12. 0:22>> In other words, if your perception
13. 0:24isn't right,
14. 0:25>> that's what being spoiled is, man.
15. 0:29>> It's sexist.
16. 0:30>> Look at the level of these people. Who
17. 0:32have sexist remarks. Yeah, brother.
18. 0:34>> So you think L is sexist?
19. 0:40>> Oh honey, let's go. Honey, honey guys.
20. 0:45No, but we know
21. 0:46>> Leonardo is good at interrupting, he's
22. 0:48not good at answering. Hey everyone,
23. 0:50I'm back here on Avenida Paulista for
24. 0:52the last change my mind of the year or
25. 0:54the election. This time with a guy you
26. 0:57know very well, Leonardo Grandini,
27. 0:59candidate for deputy for the Workers '
28. 1:01Party. Grandini, as you may have
29. 1:03already seen on social media, we always
30. 1:05stay here with the following challenge.
31. 1:07A 200 BRL Pix to whoever convinces me
32. 1:09to vote for Lula. Do you think I should
33. 1:10vote for Lula? Let's go, Guto. Look,
34. 1:13>> you're from his party, man.
35. 1:15>> No, I'm from his party and in defense
36. 1:17of workers' interests, of sovereignty,
37. 1:20I think you should, but at the same
38. 1:22time I also have an evaluation that is
39. 1:24very particular. I think certain people
40. 1:28shouldn't vote for President Lula. I
41. 1:31believe the MBL is a movement of people
42. 1:33with very complex characteristics
43. 1:36regarding women, right? I don't exactly
44. 1:40know why, I don't even know why your
45. 1:43militancy, more than 90%, is made up of
46. 1:46boys, of men. But I would also like to
47. 1:50understand what your issue is with
48. 1:52women, why you all have controversies
49. 1:54involving women in relation to
50. 1:56President Lula. We are in the
51. 1:58government that was responsible for
52. 1:59taking Brazil off the hunger and misery
53. 2:01map. The government responsible for
54. 2:03ending the 6x1 work schedule, which Mr.
55. 2:05Flávio Bolsonaro, who I know you also
56. 2:07don't support, went to Brasília to
57. 2:09conspire against it being approved in
58. 2:10the Senate together with Mr. Davi
59. 2:12Alcolumbre. It's the government
60. 2:14responsible for exempting 90%of the
61. 2:16Brazilian people from paying income tax
62. 2:17, those who earn up to 5,000 BRL. It's
63. 2:20the government responsible for putting
64. 2:23at least 600,000 people in public and
65. 2:25private universities. Government
66. 2:28responsible for creating the national
67. 2:30registry of pedophiles. A responsible
68. 2:33government that even sanctioned a bill
69. 2:34from Quincatagui, so you can see that
70. 2:36we don't care which party a good bill
71. 2:38comes from if it increases penalties
72. 2:40for certain crimes. So look, I think
73. 2:43there are several factors, of course,
74. 2:45there are several factors today that
75. 2:47advocate in defense of President Lula's
76. 2:49government.
77. 2:49>> From what I saw on your social media,
78. 2:51you're a lawyer, aren't you? Acquittal,
79. 2:52but that's acquittal and filing.
80. 2:54Different things. Grandini, I didn't
81. 2:55interrupt you even once. Not once. Not
82. 2:57once. It was exactly zero times.
83. 2:59>> Go ahead. No, perfect.
84. 3:00>> You mentioned a state registry for
85. 3:03pedophiles.
86. 3:05>> Do you think that in the state of São
87. 3:06Paulo, which is the largest in the
88. 3:07federation, we should have a state
89. 3:08registry for pedophiles?
90. 3:10>> I think, I think it's important. So
91. 3:11much so that I advocate for children
92. 3:12and women who are victims of violence.
93. 3:13>> Do you know, do you know who filed this
94. 3:14bill in the Legislative Assembly of the
95. 3:16State of São Paulo? Do you know which
96. 3:17was the only party that didn't have a
97. 3:19single deputy who wanted to approve
98. 3:21this bill? It's your party.
99. 3:25>> You said that my party says several
100. 3:27things against women. I defended
101. 3:29>> that there are many men who have
102. 3:30controversies with women.
103. 3:31>> When Lula put Gleisi there, we know
104. 3:35>> Leonardo is good at interrupting. He is
105. 3:37not good at answering. I didn't
106. 3:38interrupt you at any point. He's going
107. 3:40to answer them all. Let's go. When Lula
108. 3:42appointed Gleisi Hoffmann to the Chief
109. 3:43of Staff's office, he said he would put
110. 3:45a beautiful woman there to try to
111. 3:46convince those men.
112. 3:50>> All of us here, men and women,
113. 3:52reproduce behaviors that are sometimes
114. 3:54sexist. We are talking about a
115. 3:55president.
116. 3:56>> Do you think that phrase is sexist?
117. 3:57>> 80 years old, who unfortunately has
118. 3:59words and phrases that are sexist in
119. 4:02nature.
120. 4:03>> I want to know if the phrase is sexist
121. 4:04or not. Look, look at the level, look
122. 4:07at the level that has sexist remarks.
123. 4:09Yes, brother. Confrontation.
124. 4:12>> Oh, honey, let's go.
125. 4:13>> I'm not your honey.
126. 4:15>> Your crowd is your honey. Is Lula
127. 4:16sexist or not?
128. 4:17>> Everyone here reproduces sexist remarks
129. 4:19all the time. Are you sexist or not?
130. 4:22>> You have a project, you have a project,
131. 4:25you have a project that simply aims to
132. 4:27end all women's rights.
133. 4:30>> End all women's rights.
134. 4:31>> I have a series of programs against
135. 4:33women.
136. 4:34>> Is Lula sexist or not?
137. 4:35>> No.
138. 4:35>> You can say sexist phrases and not be a
139. 4:37sexist. Not be structurally sexist.
140. 4:39Most certainly.
141. 4:40>> Structurally sexist. Most certainly.
142. 4:42Structurally.
143. 4:43>> So, Lula is a sexist.
144. 4:46>> Do you really want to go down that road
145. 4:47?
146. 4:47>> I do, man, let's go.
147. 4:49>> You're the one who brought up the
148. 4:50sexism debate.
149. 4:51>> I wanted—I want to debate the Lula
150. 4:52administration. You went to sexism.
151. 4:54>> Of course. Convenient. But look, I'm
152. 4:56saying let's discuss the government. I
153. 4:57think it's convenient.
154. 4:58>> I think so. Which is why we're
155. 4:59discussing it right here. We can
156. 5:01discuss it; you brought up the MBL. Now
157. 5:04,
158. 5:04>> I asked about the MBL. You started
159. 5:06talking
160. 5:06>> now. I really—and this is a genuine
161. 5:09question of mine, I'm not trying to
162. 5:11make clickbait or anything—how does
163. 5:12the movement manage to have so many
164. 5:14issues with women like you do? A while
165. 5:24ago, you called the MBL extremist, and
166. 5:27recently a member of your party—I
167. 5:29won't name names because I think it's
168. 5:31irrelevant—a member of your party
169. 5:34said the MBL was a fascist movement. I
170. 5:37don't know if you consider the MBL a
171. 5:38fascist movement or not.
172. 5:39>> I think the MBL is a fascist movement.
173. 5:41>> What resemblance does the Free Brazil
174. 5:42Movement have to Mussolini's fascist
175. 5:44regime? The MBL has lived to fight the
176. 5:47PT since 2015; that's the MBL's goal,
177. 5:49and Renan Santos himself thinks he's
178. 5:51the one who brought Dilma down. Second
179. 5:53point, there is a logic in the MBL
180. 5:55today that isn't merely a liberal logic
181. 5:58. So much so that Renan Santos, for
182. 6:01example, defends the dictator of El
183. 6:02Salvador, right, who isn't a liberal
184. 6:04guy, he's a guy whose economy has a
185. 6:06strong state presence. And Renan Santos
186. 6:09himself has been criticizing the
187. 6:11Brazilian elite, has criticized various
188. 6:12liberals, and said that these people
189. 6:14are "silly liberals." So, that means
190. 6:17they also defend a big state alongside
191. 6:20a neoliberal economic regime. That is a
192. 6:23corporatist economy, which is a fascist
193. 6:26economy. Third point, they understand
194. 6:29that they are a much more evolved
195. 6:32movement than all the others. So, that
196. 6:35means they are better than the PT
197. 6:37supporters, the Bolsonaristas, than
198. 6:39everyone. And in doing so, they have
199. 6:41fascist theorists.
200. 6:42>> The MBL defends a big state, at the
201. 6:44same time neoliberal.
202. 6:45>> Do you think the PT doesn't defend
203. 6:47exactly that? The MBL doesn't defend
204. 6:49that, okay? But don't you think what
205. 6:50the PT defends for the economy is
206. 6:52exactly that? No, in fact, we just saw
207. 6:54that now at the Banco Master stand, who
208. 6:56are the ones involved in corruption
209. 6:57scandals with private industry. To say
210. 7:00the PT has no relation to big capital
211. 7:02and big bankers and big—it's not
212. 7:04comparable, man. It's not compared. I
213. 7:06don't want to compare anything. The
214. 7:07question is very simple.
215. 7:08>> The question is very simple. So the PT
216. 7:10doesn't answer. The PT has no
217. 7:12relationship with big bankers, big
218. 7:14capital, or big business. The PT has
219. 7:16been in government for 16 years.
220. 7:18>> The people elect the PT, right? We are
221. 7:20not to blame that the people elect the
222. 7:21PT. The people must elect them for some
223. 7:22reason.
224. 7:23>> Ciro Nogueira who you also...
225. 7:24>> No. So the people elect them for a
226. 7:25reason, but it won't be elected now.
227. 7:27The people, the people...the people
228. 7:29elect, it won't be a base for the PT,
229. 7:30as you know very well.
230. 7:31>> Well, the PT no, he is in opposition.
231. 7:33He is in opposition.
232. 7:34>> No, he isn't anymore. We don't support
233. 7:37him in Piauí. Not Hugo Mota. Ciro
234. 7:39Nogueira is.
235. 7:40>> Hugo Mota. Do you support Hugo Mota?
236. 7:41>> Everyone supports him for speaker of
237. 7:42the House.
238. 7:43>> Everyone. Who is that? No.
239. 7:44>> Ah, the single-vote candidate. He's
240. 7:45just...
241. 7:46>> he is our candidate.
242. 7:47>> All right.
243. 7:47>> Did your party support any vote for
244. 7:48speaker of the House? supported for
245. 7:49speaker of the House, just like...
246. 7:51>> and now, who does Hugo Mota support for
247. 7:52president of the Republic?
248. 7:53>> Hugo Mota supports Lula, thank God. Do
249. 7:55you know why he supports him? Do you
250. 7:56know why he supports him? Because...you
251. 7:58don't know why? Do you know why? Do you
252. 8:00know why in the Northeast?
253. 8:01>> Because to end poverty in this country.
254. 8:03Can I...
255. 8:04>> speak? Because in the Northeast...in
256. 8:08the Northeast, if you don't support
257. 8:10Lula, you don't get votes, brother.
258. 8:11Lula is unanimous in the Northeast. If
259. 8:13you don't ask for votes for Lula, you
260. 8:14don't have votes.
261. 8:15>> Got it? This is just unbelievable.
262. 8:21People applaud the fact that Hugo Mota,
263. 8:23who's on Daniel Vorcaro's phone, votes
264. 8:26for Lula. Congratulations, man. The
265. 8:30yellow book was written, according to
266. 8:32you, by some fascist intellectuals.
267. 8:34>> Was that it?
268. 8:34>> Yes.
269. 8:35>> Name one.
270. 8:36>> No, no, I won't. I'm not going to name
271. 8:37anyone, my friend. Brother, because
272. 8:38here's the thing,
273. 8:39>> I'm terrified, man.
274. 8:40>> Do you want me to name names here so we
275. 8:42get into this legal war? I'm, I'm cool.
276. 8:44I'm, I'm, I'm cool with you. Do you
277. 8:46agree that fascism is one of the worst
278. 8:48things to happen?
279. 8:49>> I agree. Of course.
280. 8:51>> You come here to the middle of Avenida
281. 8:53Paulista and say that my party's
282. 8:55proposal book was built with fascist
283. 8:57intellectuals. I detest fascism. I want
284. 9:00you to tell me which fascist
285. 9:01intellectual it is, so I can expel them
286. 9:02. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. It's
287. 9:04funny that he changed the subject
288. 9:05himself. We are talking about the
289. 9:07government, the fascist intellectual of
290. 9:08the EBR that I want to expel. Say the
291. 9:09name, say the name.
292. 9:11>> No, I'm going to I'm going to start
293. 9:12with your presidential candidate,
294. 9:14because you couldn't refute the issue
295. 9:16regarding the family vote. You couldn't
296. 9:18refute it. Do you think this project
297. 9:21that decides voting by family is okay?
298. 9:23>> What project, man.
299. 9:24>> It's an idea, a project of theirs.
300. 9:25>> Project. This idea came from a tweet by
301. 9:28a guy who supports the MBL.
302. 9:30>> And he liked it.
303. 9:31>> He liked it.
304. 9:32>> Renan liked the idea. The "Mamãe Falei
305. 9:34" guy himself in our debate.
306. 9:35>> Renan liked the idea because the "
307. 9:36Mamãe Falei" guy himself in the debate
308. 9:37, you come here and say that my party's
309. 9:41proposal book was built by fascist
310. 9:42intellectuals and you don't have the
311. 9:44capacity to name the fascist
312. 9:45intellectual. How about capacity,
313. 9:47brother, the thing is this, I just
314. 9:49spoke about the capacity for the main
315. 9:51issue,
316. 9:54>> there is no mention of a family vote in
317. 9:56my program. What exists is a previous
318. 10:00discussion, in other published books,
319. 10:02thematic discussions that happen
320. 10:03through 200 researchers on democratic
321. 10:05models worldwide.
322. 10:06>> There is no such defense, so
323. 10:08>> no, not only is there no defense, it's
324. 10:09not in my program, there is no such
325. 10:11mention.
326. 10:11>> No, he didn't say that. You're lying
327. 10:13once again.
328. 10:15>> What the hell with fascism.
329. 10:16>> Do you think fascism is cool? We've
330. 10:17already debated that. Name like 10.
331. 10:19>> You are a fascist.
332. 10:21>> You are a fascist. The last time
333. 10:27>> you are the embodiment of it.
334. 10:29>> The last time I debated, that had 5
335. 10:30million views, right, V? You know
336. 10:33>> who wants to know what the fascist
337. 10:34motto is. They want to know the fascist
338. 10:37motto. We all know what it is
339. 10:39>> what is it
340. 10:40>> God, family.
341. 10:46>> Let's go, boss. What is your name?
342. 10:48Sorry.
343. 10:49>> Paulo, have you ever seen me say that
344. 10:50phrase once in your life? it's the
345. 10:52little friend who's asking what the
346. 10:53motto is, not the little friend, you're
347. 10:55the one who asked.
348. 10:56>> I told him.
349. 10:57>> Hey Paulo, Paulo, Paulo, have you ever
350. 10:59heard the fascist motto? Have you ever
351. 11:01heard of it?
352. 11:02>> Have you ever seen me say it?
353. 11:03>> Oh, okay. Oh, good.
354. 11:05>> It's just that the guys applauded here.
355. 11:06Not me. Have you ever heard this phrase
356. 11:08?
357. 11:08>> Have you ever heard it?
358. 11:09>> I didn't hear it, but that's fine, I
359. 11:10won't.
360. 11:11>> I just want.
361. 11:11>> So, thanks. Thanks. Thank you. Thank
362. 11:13you, okay? Man, ask what a legal
363. 11:15betting site is. Just read the bill
364. 11:17approved by the Lula government that
365. 11:18regulates betting sites.
366. 11:19>> So, but do you defend the decree then?
367. 11:21Do you defend Lula's decree
368. 11:23>> the way it is? No.
369. 11:24>> Why?
370. 11:25>> As it stands, it simply bans the legal
371. 11:27betting sites that he himself legalized
372. 11:29. That I find absurd.
373. 11:31>> But that was a step, the regulation was
374. 11:33a step.
375. 11:33>> A step isn't enough. Hey Léo, let's
376. 11:34look at this.
377. 11:35>> Brazil needs to have legal certainty.
378. 11:37Lula went there, regulated the betting
379. 11:38sites, and said: "These betting sites
380. 11:40are illegal." I agree. The "little
381. 11:42tiger" is illegal. I agree. Those
382. 11:44betting sites have a certain deadline
383. 11:46to get regularized. Those betting sites
384. 11:49that Lula, Lula, not me, that Lula said
385. 11:50could be regularized, went there and
386. 11:52got regularized. A few months went by,
387. 11:55Lula said: "You are banned." In other
388. 11:57words, let's say, I don't know, a guy
389. 11:59has a barbecue stand, he goes and gets
390. 12:01it regularized. He pays for all his
391. 12:03things properly, gets his permit signed
392. 12:05, everything is correct. Some time
393. 12:07passes, the government goes there and
394. 12:08says: "Are you regularized? Did you pay
395. 12:10your permit?" I don't care. Brazil
396. 12:12needs to have, if Lula wanted to,
397. 12:14>> yes,
398. 12:14>> if Lula wanted to ban betting sites, he
399. 12:16shouldn't have done that regularization
400. 12:18. What I defend, which they asked about
401. 12:21, is having financial education in
402. 12:22schools, of course.
403. 12:24>> Because a country that has financial
404. 12:26education can have legal betting. Legal
405. 12:28betting happens in many countries. If
406. 12:31we take, for example, the United
407. 12:32Kingdom, they have sports betting. The
408. 12:35UK there
409. 12:36>> is logical, I'm not comparing it.
410. 12:37>> We have a people, a people we have a
411. 12:39people, a very simple people, a very
412. 12:41humble people, who are the main target
413. 12:43of these betting sites. It is the, it
414. 12:45is the main target of these betting
415. 12:46sites.
416. 12:47>> No, no, I want to understand. I
417. 12:48understand, but
418. 12:50>> you're comparing Brazil and the United
419. 12:51States. No. What is the difference
420. 12:52regarding this specific case of the
421. 12:53United Kingdom,
422. 12:55>> which is a country that I think is the
423. 12:56most famous for sports betting, but if
424. 12:58you bring it into the debate, it's
425. 12:59subject to being compared.
426. 13:01>> What do I think the problem is in this
427. 13:03specific case? Hey, I'm talking about a
428. 13:04proposal. If you guys don't pay
429. 13:06attention when I'm talking about a
430. 13:07proposal, right? It gets difficult.
431. 13:11>> Now, for example,
432. 13:13>> what's missing is financial education
433. 13:15in schools. Today, the guy there looks,
434. 13:16do you think it's important?
435. 13:17>> I do. Of course I think it's important.
436. 13:19>> Do you think so? I think, yes, I think
437. 13:20it's important. Pause, pause, pause.
438. 13:22Calm down, calm down. About your
439. 13:24project that you're going to talk about
440. 13:26, what am I going to say
441. 13:27>> about your project, let's go
442. 13:28>> then. Tell us. I’m, I’m already
443. 13:30subscribed. Let’s go. Let’s go. I,
444. 13:32I, the thing is this. My project that
445. 13:34he mentioned is to put financial
446. 13:35education in schools. Thanks to my
447. 13:38approved law, 3 million students in
448. 13:39São Paulo have access to financial
449. 13:41education.
450. 13:42>> Do you know what the issue is? Do you
451. 13:43know what the issue is? The issue is
452. 13:44this.
453. 13:44>> Having financial education in schools.
454. 13:46>> No, the project, the project isn't bad.
455. 13:48Nobody said the project
456. 13:50>> damn, you guys are against financial
457. 13:52education.
458. 13:52>> The point isn't the project. The point
459. 13:55is that if you're earning $ 0, how the
460. 13:57hell are you going to manage that? No,
461. 14:01this is a real issue, brother.
462. 14:03>> It's just that I've seen some of your
463. 14:04videos debating right-wing guys that I
464. 14:06don't consider the brightest. Now, I
465. 14:07thought you were better, man.
466. 14:11>> It doesn't mean that if a guy earns $
467. 14:131500, $ 0, it's not important for him
468. 14:15to have financial education.
469. 14:16>> Wow, wow. Look, look at this, Guto.
470. 14:18Look, look how stubborn you are. The
471. 14:20guy, the guy, look at this. The guy, oh
472. 14:23brother, there’s no way.
473. 14:26>> Oh brother, oh brother, oh brother, let
474. 14:27me tell you something. The guy, the guy
475. 14:29spends, the guy, the guy spends, the
476. 14:32guy spends everything on groceries, on
477. 14:35rent, and still ends up in debt.
478. 14:47>> Erica it's Erica.
479. 14:53>> Let's go. Let's finish this, right?
480. 14:54>> Let’s go. Let’s go. What is the
481. 14:56importance of having financial
482. 14:57education in schools? So that young
483. 14:59people don't fall for scams, don't fall
484. 15:01for legal betting, so they don't think
485. 15:03that legal betting, legalized by your
486. 15:05government, is a reason for investment
487. 15:07or enrichment, but rather a sports bet,
488. 15:09which is what it actually is. So that
489. 15:12young people know how to handle their
490. 15:13own money, know the difference between
491. 15:15credit and debit, so they don't get
492. 15:16into debt while their credit record is
493. 15:17clean, which is before they receive
494. 15:19their first paycheck.
495. 15:20>> The theory of the project is important,
496. 15:22I support it. The point is that
497. 15:24material conditions are important too.
498. 15:27If the guy has no money to manage, he
499. 15:30has nothing to manage, right?
500. 15:31>> Yes he does, of course he does. Of
501. 15:33course he does. When we talk about
502. 15:34financial education, choosing between
503. 15:36the shack for $ 300 and the shack for $
504. 15:38400. No, but that’s the reality,
505. 15:40brother. Financial education is for
506. 15:42people to make better choices
507. 15:43throughout life. I’m telling the guy
508. 15:45that’s the issue. We defend that too.
509. 15:47>> You guys defend that?
510. 15:48>> Well, logically, obviously.
511. 15:49>> Why did the Workers 'Party vote against
512. 15:51this project?
513. 15:54>> You defend the 6-for-1 shift? I do. Do
514. 15:57you defend the project that ended the 6
515. 15:59-for-1 scale now?
516. 16:00>> Erika Hilton's project.
517. 16:01>> So there is a difference between
518. 16:02defending something and defending the
519. 16:03project.
520. 16:04>> So that means you are against my
521. 16:06project, but you defend the idea.
522. 16:07>> Exactly.
523. 16:08>> What in my project do you disagree with
524. 16:10?
525. 16:11>> That it has no grounding in reality,
526. 16:12that it lacks budget provisions, it
527. 16:14says nothing about budget issues.
528. 16:16>> But my God, aren't you? It doesn't have
529. 16:18it,
530. 16:18>> it doesn't have it. And
531. 16:19>> it doesn't have it. Can I speak then?
532. 16:20>> Go ahead. And the third, and the third
533. 16:23issue, and the third issue is that you
534. 16:25don't create conditions for these kids
535. 16:27to have money.
536. 16:29>> For example, are you against the "Pé
537. 16:30de Meia"?
538. 16:31>> I am against it.
539. 16:33>> So, how are you against a high school
540. 16:35student having a little extra money at
541. 16:37the end of their schooling? It prevents
542. 16:41school dropout, you know?
543. 16:42>> It avoids school dropout and such. So,
544. 16:43if you—calm down, can I answer? You
545. 16:46talked, I talked, I am against it. Why
546. 16:47am I against the current model of "Pé
547. 16:49de Meia"? I think what? My educational
548. 16:51cashback project is much better than
549. 16:52the "Pé de Meia". Why? The educational
550. 16:55cashback gives a little money to the
551. 16:57student who reaches the end of their
552. 16:59studies or graduates from school or
553. 17:00university. But only if they are a good
554. 17:03student, if they have school attendance
555. 17:05, if they have good behavior, if they
556. 17:07have good grades. Now, I refuse to give
557. 17:09money to a student who doesn't get a
558. 17:12nine or a 10. I refuse to give money to
559. 17:14a student who has bad behavior. Entered
560. 17:17a classroom. I, as a history teacher,
561. 17:22>> can tell you exactly how you don't
562. 17:23understand reality. We deal with
563. 17:27diverse students who come from...Do you
564. 17:29want to be a pro?
565. 17:30>> I don't really care.
566. 17:31>> I don't insist on talking. I’ll just
567. 17:33keep on talking.
568. 17:34>> Leo is leaving because he has to
569. 17:36campaign. He’s right. And he made an
570. 17:37arrangement. That’s the agreement. A
571. 17:39deal is a deal. This guy is going to
572. 17:40disappear from the video. He won't be
573. 17:42the next to accept. Stay well.
574. 17:44>> Hey Guto, let's go. It's just that,
575. 17:45really
576. 17:46>> a promise to you, huh?
577. 17:47>> It’s just that it’s very clear to
578. 17:49me that while some ideas might be
579. 17:51well-intentioned, you are completely
580. 17:53unaware of the material reality of
581. 17:55things. There is a decay under the
582. 17:58Tarcísio administration, where you
583. 17:59were deputy leader, right? Uh, very
584. 18:02serious. In the history of São Paulo
585. 18:04state, adjusted for inflation, which is
586. 18:06the largest budget in the history of
587. 18:07education?
588. 18:08>> And you know what’s interesting? Even
589. 18:10though it is, in absolute terms, the
590. 18:11largest budget in the history of São
591. 18:12Paulo state, where is that money going?
592. 18:14>> So you’re saying that the largest
593. 18:15education budget in São Paulo's
594. 18:17history, adjusted for inflation, is the
595. 18:19current one. That’s it.
596. 18:21>> The education budget, which is a
597. 18:22multi-billion budget, it’s simply
598. 18:24going to the FEDER so they can sell
599. 18:25their own teaching materials to destroy
600. 18:27the entire education system. Let’s go
601. 18:30. What is the largest budget in the
602. 18:31history of education? What is it?
603. 18:34>> Answer me, brother. I said that. So?
604. 18:38>> I approved the largest education budget
605. 18:39in the history of São Paulo state
606. 18:41>> and it’s going to, look, look. He
607. 18:44>> Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank
608. 18:46you. You can, you can search Leonardo
609. 18:48Grandini’s social media to see when
610. 18:49he criticized Lula for cutting 32
611. 18:53billion reais from the Ministry of
612. 18:54Education. That’s a lie. That’s a
613. 18:56lie.
614. 18:57>> That’s a lie. That’s a lie.
615. 18:59That’s a lie. That’s a lie. But
616. 19:01let’s move on. I studied in public
617. 19:03schools my whole life. My mother has
618. 19:06been a public school teacher her whole
619. 19:07life. I am the son of a public school
620. 19:09teacher my whole life. I was a titular
621. 19:11member, I was a titular member of the
622. 19:13Education and Culture Commission of the
623. 19:15São Paulo State Assembly. And before
624. 19:17you, teachers, stands the deputy who
625. 19:20put the most money into São Paulo’s
626. 19:23education, more than any PT deputy or
627. 19:25>> that’s great. But if you did that,
628. 19:27congratulations, brother. No one is
629. 19:28questioning that. Calm down, calm down,
630. 19:29calm down. I put millions of reais into
631. 19:32public schools as a state deputy.
632. 19:35>> Did you monitor what you put in, sir?
633. 19:36>> It was 11 million reais allocated to
634. 19:38several institutions. None of the
635. 19:40education ones had corruption. How are
636. 19:42you monitoring it? Yes,
637. 19:45>> man. There was Campinas, there was
638. 19:47Osasco, there was Guarulhos, there was
639. 19:48Ribeirão Preto, it’s not just one,
640. 19:50it’s 11 million reais allocated to
641. 19:52several places. I’ll be going then, I
642. 19:53need to leave,
643. 19:54>> there you go. Then the guy votes for
644. 19:56the PT
645. 19:57>> and doesn't demand from the PT guys who
646. 19:58didn't allocate as much as I did. Leo,
647. 20:00Leo, Leo.
648. 20:01>> Thank you. Good luck. Thank you, thank
649. 20:03you, thank you for your attention. Vote
650. 20:0877.
651. 20:09>> I'm going with people, it's motor7.