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0:00Today, I'm going to tell you three
0:01stories about people whose bizarre
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0:54On the night of December 20th, 1630, a
0:57man named James Graham tossed and turned
0:59in his bed in the village [music] of
1:01Great Lumbly, England. James, you know,
1:04for the most part, was able to sleep
1:05through the night on any given night.
1:07But tonight, for whatever reason, you
1:09know, maybe he was stressed, maybe he
1:10was anxious, but he [music] just he
1:12couldn't sleep. And so as his wife next
1:14to him is, you know, snoring away, he's
1:16just sort of wired [music] laying there
1:18in bed. And at a certain point, he just
1:20he thought about maybe getting up to to
1:22go [music] outside and go for a walk,
1:24you know, cuz he just feels like he
1:25can't sleep. And so he sat up on the
1:27side of his bed [music] and there was a
1:29window right next to his bedside that
1:31looked out into his backyard. Actually
1:32looked out to the area basically between
1:34his and his neighbor's house. And so he
1:36just happens to look outside and, you
1:38know, it's it's the middle of the night.
1:40It's dark, but there's pretty decent
1:41illumination from the moon. And he looks
1:44out and he sees something that just
1:46[music] didn't make any sense. He sees
1:48there's this this woman just
1:50inexplicably standing underneath this
1:53tree [music] that was sort of situated
1:54between he and his neighbor's house and
1:56her back was to him and she's just
1:58standing there like she's wearing her
2:00her night gown and she's just standing
2:02there under this tree. And remember this
2:04is the middle of the night and [music]
2:06you know there were women that lived in
2:08the area but immediately you know James
2:10actually couldn't even recognize who
2:12this woman was. [music] And so now you
2:15know he's already wired he can't sleep.
2:17But more than anything he's just so
2:19curious and frankly kind of unnerved by
2:21this [music] person. Like there was no
2:23reason for her to be out there. And so
2:25finally James is like I should probably
2:27go out there [music] and just make sure
2:29she's okay. Like this is so unusual. And
2:32so as quietly as he could, he climbed
2:34out of [music] his bed, you know, being
2:35careful not to wake his wife and he
2:37walked over to the stairs. He goes down
2:39[music]
2:40and he goes out his front door and he
2:42walks around to the side of his property
2:43and sort of a little bit apprehensively
2:45he looks over towards this woman who's
2:47still from his perspective, her back is
2:49to him and she's still just standing
2:51there underneath this tree. And now as
2:54he's as he's walking closer to her, even
2:56though he's come out here to help her,
2:58you know, presumably to help her if she
2:59needs help, he can't help but feel like
3:02just something's really off here. Like
3:04it was it was scary almost as he's
3:06walking in the middle of the night
3:07towards this this person. But he kept
3:10walking cuz he's really curious and he
3:12wanted to make sure she was okay. And he
3:14finally gets up to this woman and like
3:17right as he's behind her and he's making
3:18enough noise that she should hear him
3:20and turn around, she doesn't. She
3:22continues to stand there. And so he
3:24walks around her and he looks at her and
3:26immediately he's struck by her
3:27appearance. She just looks like very
3:29ghastly, like pale, you know, not really
3:32any expression on her face. And even
3:34though she's looking at him now, now
3:36that he's standing in front of her, it's
3:38almost like she's looking past him. And
3:40James, he's like, "Hey, are are you
3:42okay? Like what are you doing out here?
3:44Also, who are you?" Like he had no idea
3:46who this woman was. And the woman at
3:48first she just kind of continued to to
3:50stare off through James like off into
3:53the distance like she's in this this
3:54catatonic state. But then at some point
3:58she sort of focused and looked at James
4:01and she told him something that just
4:03completely scared James. Like he
4:06couldn't believe what she was saying to
4:08him. I mean already this is so creepy,
4:11so weird. But like the weight of what
4:14this woman has just told him about why
4:16she's out here, it was just too much for
4:19him. He was horrified. And so for a
4:21minute there, James really just [music]
4:23stood there and didn't even know how to
4:25react to this woman. But eventually, he
4:28sort of got the courage up and he he
4:30asked her like, "Are you sure? Are you
4:33sure what you're telling me is true?"
4:35And the woman, she confirmed that
4:37everything she was telling him was very
4:39real. And then before James could ask
4:42any more follow-up questions, the woman
4:44just sort of went back to that that
4:46vacant stare where she's no longer
4:48focused on him. And she walked off
4:50around the corner and just vanished into
4:53the night. And so James, he's just left
4:55standing under this tree really having
4:57no idea what to make of what's [music]
4:59just happened. But at his core, he is
5:02truly shaken up by by this experience.
5:04[music]
5:05But eventually he does go back inside
5:07his house. He gets into bed and he does
5:09eventually fall asleep.
5:12But then the next morning when he gets
5:13up, like as soon as his eyes are open,
5:16all he can think about is that woman and
5:18what she told him. It's like that was
5:21not a bad dream. This this really
5:22happened and and I need to do something
5:25with this information I've been given.
5:27And so later that morning, James headed
5:30over to the local magistrate's office.
5:32So the local magistrate was sort of like
5:34the the lead prosecutor, the lead
5:36investigator, sort of like the the chief
5:38authority figure when it came to law and
5:40order in the town. And so his name was
5:43Thomas Hardcourt. And so James, he walks
5:46into the office and Thomas in virtue of
5:48this being a small town, he knew James.
5:50James was, you know, the the owner of a
5:52local mill and he was known to be a very
5:54level-headed guy. And as soon as he sees
5:57James, this is Thomas the magistrate. As
5:59soon as he sees James coming into his
6:01office, he's like, "Oh, James, how you
6:02doing?" Like, "What can I help you
6:04with?" And James, like, you know, he's
6:06fidgeting with his hat, like he's he's
6:07clearly nervous. And at some point, he
6:11he told the the magistrate about this
6:13totally bizarre interaction he had with
6:15this woman. But it was not so much the
6:18interaction itself. It was it was the
6:19information she gave him. This woman
6:22told him that apparently there was a
6:24dead body in the coal mine. And more
6:26than that, there was evidence near the
6:29body that would actually show who did
6:32it. And you know, James, as he's telling
6:34Thomas, he can see that Thomas is sort
6:36of skeptical cuz this whole thing feels
6:37sort of like, wait, who said this? Like,
6:40under what context was this said? But
6:42James said to Thomas like, "I don't know
6:44why this felt so convincing, but I'm
6:47telling you, it just felt real. I think
6:50you should go investigate and see if
6:52there actually is a body out there." And
6:54then he described to Thomas explicitly
6:56where this woman claimed the body was
6:59within the coal mine. And so Thomas, he
7:02hears all this and, you know, he's he's
7:03a man of the law and and he knows, you
7:06know, his understanding of who James is
7:08is he's this level-headed guy who
7:10wouldn't necessarily make up, you know,
7:12tall tales. But immediately he's like,
7:14"This just this doesn't feel legitimate.
7:17Like, this is pretty unreliable." But
7:19James seemed so convinced that Thomas
7:22was like, "All right, yeah, we'll we'll
7:24go take a look later today." And so
7:26later that day, the magistrate, Harkort,
7:28along with the team, they head out to
7:30this this coal mine, which it wasn't
7:32really like an underground mine. It was
7:33more like a big open field with a bunch
7:35of deep pits where coal had been dug out
7:38of the ground. And they headed to this
7:40one particular area where James had said
7:42this woman had said to go look for this
7:44body. And now keep in mind like like the
7:47magistrate [music] and his team, they're
7:49doing this, but there's not a lot of
7:50conviction behind this search. I mean,
7:52they're sort of checking a box here and
7:54they have no expectation they're
7:55actually going to find anything. But
7:57sure enough, they get to that spot and
7:59they look at the ground and there's like
8:01a little piece of fabric poking out of
8:02the dirt. Wouldn't necessarily have
8:04caught anybody's attention unless you
8:06had come here to look for this, but sure
8:08enough, it's like, okay, that's odd.
8:10They pull on the fabric and out of the
8:13ground comes this bloody shirt [music]
8:16and you know Harkwart and his team
8:17they're like oh my goodness. They dig
8:19away the rest of the dirt and underneath
8:21the [music] shirt was a dead body. It
8:23was a dead woman's body and then next to
8:25the body was was a pickaxe with all this
8:28dried blood all over it. The instant
8:30this discovery was made, [music] Harkort
8:32began to think about all the other
8:34things James had told him in his office
8:36that morning. Cuz James had not just
8:38come in and said, [music] "Hey, uh, a
8:40lady told me there's a dead body in the
8:41coal mine. It's in this area. Go check
8:43it out." Like, no. James had provided
8:45[music] an enormous amount of context
8:47around this discussion he had apparently
8:49had with this woman the night before
8:51that had led to him coming into the
8:52magistrate's [music] office. But the
8:54magistrate had totally discounted the
8:56whole story. The whole time he was
8:58listening, and he had sort of written it
8:59all off and then ultimately at the end
9:01said, "Fine, we'll go check it out." But
9:03now he's actually found the body in the
9:05spot where James claimed. And so
9:07suddenly all the other things James said
9:10probably were true or some of them had
9:12to be true. When James talked to Harkort
9:15and told him about this body and where
9:17to go look for it, he also said that
9:20according to this woman, the dead body
9:22belonged to a woman named Anne Walker.
9:25And Anne Walker actually happened to be
9:27James' neighbor's niece. And she was
9:30actually missing. And more than that,
9:33James had been told that the person who
9:36killed Anne Walker was her own uncle,
9:39James's neighbor. Apparently, Anne had
9:42gotten pregnant by her uncle, James'
9:45neighbor, and he had killed her with a
9:48pickaxe because he didn't want the baby.
9:50And then the the neighbor and a friend
9:52had then buried Anne Walker's body in
9:55the coal mine. And so again, like
9:57Thomas, when he first heard it, he
9:58discounted it, but now he's seeing the
10:01body. And also, oh, by the way, he knew
10:03who Anne Walker was, knew she was
10:05missing. [music] And clearly that is
10:07Anne Walker in this shallow grave. And
10:10there's a bloody pickaxe. Like, oh my
10:12goodness, it's all true. And so Harkort
10:15and his team, they launch, you know,
10:16obviously a full-scale investigation
10:18into this murder. And you know,
10:20admittedly, they did consider that maybe
10:23James made up this elaborate story and
10:25he's the killer. But no, after gathering
10:27all the evidence and looking at all the
10:29pieces they had, it was very clear that
10:32James had nothing to do with this and
10:34that it was the uncle whose name was
10:36John Walker who killed Anne Walker. And
10:39John also had an accomplice whose name
10:41was Mark Sharp who helped bury the body.
10:43And so ultimately, Jon and Mark are
10:46arrested for this murder. But none of
10:48this is the reason why today, 400 years
10:51later, we still talk about this case.
10:53No, the reason we still talk about it
10:55has to do with James. So James was
10:58proven without a doubt to have had
11:00nothing to do with this murder. Nothing.
11:03He had no knowledge of it other than
11:06that woman he met under the tree in the
11:07middle of the night. She passed that
11:09information to him that he passed to the
11:11magistrate. That's his only connection.
11:13He would have had no idea about this
11:15case in any way, shape, or form if not
11:17for talking to that woman. And James, do
11:20you know who he said that woman was?
11:22That was Annne Walker, the deceased
11:25woman. So apparently he was talking to
11:29her ghost.
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12:47On a Saturday evening in October of
12:491974,
12:51a 30-year-old woman named Jesse Fonda
12:53looked out the car window as her husband
12:55Bill drove them down the interstate in
12:57Asheville, North Carolina. So Jesse and
12:59Bill had just moved to Asheville and
13:01they'd been out all day exploring their
13:03new city. But now it was getting dark
13:05and so they were on their way back home
13:07to their apartment. But as they
13:09approached their exit, Jesse noticed
13:11this young man with bushy red hair
13:14walking along the side of the road, like
13:16just walking along the highway all by
13:17himself. And so immediately Jesse's
13:20thinking he's got to be a hitchhiker.
13:22So, this was the 1970s and hitchhiking
13:25at the time was pretty accepted and
13:27pretty common. And so, Jesse's making
13:30the assumption that this has got to be a
13:31hitchhiker. And more than that, she
13:34thought this guy looked just sad, like
13:37he needed help. And so, reflexively, she
13:40turned to Bill and said, "Why don't you
13:41pull over and see if you know, maybe we
13:43could help him?" And so, Bill, he nodded
13:45and pulled over a moment later. And as
13:48their car came to a stop, she rolled
13:50down her window and she asked this guy
13:52where he was headed. And the guy seemed
13:53really happy that they had pulled over
13:55to talk to him. And he quickly said that
13:57his name was Clayton and he was in town
13:59for work [music] and he was supposed to
14:00be on his way home to his wife and his
14:02baby in Tennessee, but his truck had
14:05broken down at the Hollywood Motel on
14:07the edge of town. And so now he was
14:08walking around looking for a mechanic.
14:10[music] And Jesse, when she heard that,
14:12she was like, "Well, great. My husband
14:15Bill is a really handy guy and he's got
14:17a toolbox in the trunk. So, why don't
14:19you hop in and we'll go find your truck
14:21and we'll get you fixed up and get you
14:23back on the road. A couple of hours
14:24later, around 9:00 p.m., Jesse leaned up
14:27against the side of Clayton's beat up
14:29blue pickup truck back in the Hollywood
14:31Motel parking lot. Bill and Clayton were
14:34still busy at work, you know, under the
14:35hood of this truck. [music] And by this
14:37point, their arms are totally covered in
14:39grease. And Jesse, you know, even though
14:41she didn't regret helping Clayton out
14:43here, she was ready to go home. Really
14:46for two reasons. [music] The first one
14:47was this truck favor had turned out to
14:50be a much bigger endeavor than she or
14:52her husband had expected. I mean, the
14:54men had been working on this truck now
14:56for almost 2 hours, and it still was not
14:59running, and it wasn't even clear if
15:00they'd get it running. And the second
15:02reason that Jesse was pretty ready to
15:04leave here was that she was starting to
15:06feel a little uneasy about Clayton.
15:09Specifically, his story just seemed sort
15:13of off. So, this motel had turned out to
15:16be miles and miles away from where they
15:18had ultimately picked Clayton up on the
15:20side of the interstate. And Jesse just
15:22didn't understand now that, you know,
15:24she had been here and sort of thought
15:26about it, why Clayton had walked all the
15:30way out where they had found him to look
15:31for a mechanic. [music] Like, why didn't
15:34he just go in the front office of this
15:36motel and ask them if they could find a
15:38mechanic or call a mechanic? Like, why
15:40would you walk miles and miles hoping
15:43you'd like find a mechanic? But Jesse
15:46reminded herself that part of the reason
15:48she had decided to tell her husband to
15:50pull over and help this guy was because
15:53Clayton just looked really distraught,
15:55like there were clearly bigger issues in
15:57his life beyond whatever mechanical
15:59troubles he was having. And so she
16:01thought, you know, maybe he just wasn't
16:02thinking clearly and he had made a bad
16:03decision and before long he's miles away
16:05and thankfully they were there. But
16:07still, it was like, this whole thing's
16:09weird. I'd like to go home. And luckily,
16:11just then, Jesse overheard her husband
16:13tell Clayton to go ahead and try the
16:16ignition again. And so, Clayton, he
16:18climbed in the driver's seat. And when
16:19he turned the key, the truck roared to
16:22life. Jesse was relieved. Bill was
16:24clearly relieved. And Clayton seemed
16:27very relieved. So happy. He immediately
16:30shook Bill's hand. And he thanked him.
16:32He thanked Jesse for all their help. And
16:34then, as Clayton's truck sputtered out
16:36of the parking lot, Jesse and Bill went
16:38back to their car. And you know, after
16:40being like, "Phew, I'm glad that's
16:42over," they drove back to their
16:44apartment. However, once they finally
16:46got home that night, Jesse just couldn't
16:48fall asleep. And after tossing and
16:51turning for a long while, she eventually
16:53just gave up on sleep and got out of
16:55bed. And then when she was out of bed,
16:57she walked into the living room where
16:59they had these big French doors that
17:01looked out onto the street. [music] And
17:03Jesse, you know, she's basically
17:04wandering around the house at this
17:05point, waiting to get tired enough to go
17:07back to bed. She just [music] found
17:09herself absent-mindedly staring out
17:11these French doors, like out onto the
17:13road. And at first, she didn't really
17:15even register what was out [music]
17:16there, cuz it's the middle of the night.
17:18It's quiet. It's dark. But then she
17:20focused on something that was out there.
17:22She saw this beat up blue pickup truck
17:26[music] parked out front underneath the
17:28street light with a a man with bushy red
17:30hair working on the car like under the
17:33hood. and she's staring at this guy in
17:35this car who, you know, he's not paying
17:37her any attention. It's it's [music] odd
17:38that he's doing repairs in the middle of
17:40the night, but she's she's staring at
17:42him and she realizes
17:45it's Clayton. And Jesse, she has no idea
17:49why Clayton would be here. And why is he
17:51again working on his car? They just
17:53fixed his car. Like, there's so many
17:55questions here. But more than anything,
17:57she's thinking, I didn't tell him where
18:00we lived. So, either this is the
18:03craziest coincidence or he's somehow
18:06figured out we live here and and he's
18:08come here, but like to what end? [music]
18:10To fix his truck again outside our
18:13window? Like, what in the world's going
18:15on here? So, now feeling kind of
18:18frantic, she rushed back into the
18:19bedroom and she shook her husband awake
18:22and she said, "Like, did you give
18:24Clayton our address cuz he's outside?
18:26Like, did you did you tell him where we
18:27live?" And Bill's like half asleep, but
18:29he's like, "No, why would I do that?
18:31What are you talking about? He's he's
18:32outside. What do you mean? And so Jesse
18:34again, it's like he he he's outside.
18:36He's working on his blue truck right
18:38outside. Like go look for yourself. And
18:40so Bill, he gets out of bed. He goes
18:42into the living room and he looks out
18:44onto the road and there's nothing there.
18:47And he's like, "Where, Jesse? Where
18:48where is Clayton? I I don't see anyone
18:50out there." And Jesse, she walks over
18:52and she's like, "What? I just saw him.
18:55He was he was right there right across
18:57the street under that street light. I I
18:58I don't know where he is. And Bill's
19:01like, "Come on. Like, there's no way he
19:03would have been here. Like, you're just
19:05seeing things. You're half asleep. It's
19:07the middle of the night. Like, just just
19:08go to bed. Like, he's not here. Forget
19:10about it." Jesse was pretty annoyed
19:12because she's like, "I know what I saw."
19:14But at the same time, she's like, "I
19:16just saw him. Like, if he had left, I
19:18would I would have heard the vehicle."
19:19And also, does that mean he fixed his
19:21truck [music] like in the last 10
19:22seconds and got in the car and drove
19:24away? Like, she would have heard it. The
19:27timing didn't make sense. And so she
19:28began to tell herself like, "Man, maybe
19:30I am seeing things. It is the middle of
19:32the night. Maybe I'm like sleepwalking
19:33or something." And so before long, she
19:36and Bill climbed back in bed and went to
19:38sleep. After this, Jesse and Bill didn't
19:41see Clayton again. And so pretty
19:43quickly, they just put him out of their
19:44minds and moved on with their lives.
19:46However, a month later, when Jesse and
19:49Bill were driving down the interstate
19:50about 20 minutes outside of Asheville on
19:53their way to go look at a house they
19:54were interested in buying, Jesse was
19:57looking out the window and she was just
19:59trying to imagine what life would be
20:00like if they ended up living out here.
20:02She's staring at the scenery, just
20:03daydreaming
20:05when she happens to look up ahead off to
20:07the side of the highway and she sees
20:10there's this blue pickup truck that's
20:13not parked on the side of the road. It's
20:15like off the side of the road like it's
20:17gotten into an accident. And
20:19immediately, even though she and Bill
20:21have not even thought about or seen or
20:23or talked about this guy Clayton in
20:25forever, immediately she's like, "That
20:27looks like Clayton's truck." Which
20:29didn't make any sense. I mean, why would
20:30he be out here? Why would they see him
20:32again? There's a lot of questions here.
20:34But as they got closer, she told Bill
20:36like, "Look, that that looks like
20:37Clayton's truck." And as they're both
20:39staring at it, they couldn't see [music]
20:40anybody in the truck. And it was off the
20:43road. It was like in a ditch off the
20:45side of the road. And as they got
20:46closer, they saw the truck was kind of
20:48mangled. And they're like, "Oh my
20:50goodness, not only is this Clayton
20:52probably, but he's been in a car
20:54accident." Like, what are the odds?
20:56We're going to we're going to we're
20:58going to be the ones to like rescue him
20:59from this car accident. Like, what
21:01what's going on here? Like, this is this
21:03is crazy the level of coincidence here.
21:06But nonetheless, Jesse's like, "Bill,
21:08pull over. We we got to make sure
21:09Clayton's okay here." Assuming this is
21:12him. And so Bill, you know, he pulls
21:14over, they get out and they walk up to
21:16this truck, which as they get closer,
21:18they can see it. It's really quite
21:19mangled. And they see the license plate
21:22is Clayton's license plate. They
21:24remembered it. So this is definitely his
21:26truck. Again, it's like, what's going on
21:28here? But there's nobody there. Like
21:30Clayton's not there. There's no people
21:32anywhere. It's just this this abandoned
21:34wrecked truck on the side of the road.
21:37And so Jesse and Bill, they're like,
21:39"What do we even do? like we think this
21:41has got to be Clayton, you know, is he
21:43okay? How do we even find him again? And
21:46so they they walk up to the truck and
21:48they start inspecting it and it's
21:51definitely been in an accident. But but
21:52worse is they look in the window and
21:55they see on the driver's seat are all
21:57these dark stains on the seat that look
22:00like they could have been dried blood.
22:03And so now, you know, Jesse and Bill are
22:05like, "Really? What do we do here? Like
22:07is he nearby? Is he hurt or something?"
22:10and they looked around and they noticed
22:11there was a farmhouse on a hill right
22:13nearby sort of off the side of the
22:15highway. And they were like, "Let's just
22:17walk up there and just ask them like,
22:19"What's going on with this truck? They
22:20must know something." And so Bill
22:22agreed. And the two of them, they walked
22:25farther away from the highway up this
22:26hill to this house and they knocked on
22:29the front door. And then a moment later,
22:31this old man answered and Jesse, who you
22:34know, understandably was pretty upset,
22:36she said, "Hey, like what's going on
22:37with that truck down there? We're pretty
22:39sure we know who it belongs to, but you
22:41know, he's not here. We We think there's
22:43blood inside. [music] Like, can you tell
22:45us anything about that truck? Like, what
22:46happened? And the man, he's looking at
22:48Jesse and Bill and he's sort of
22:50confused. Like, who are you people?
22:51Like, what's going on here? But he could
22:53see that Jesse and Bill were genuinely
22:55concerned here. And so, he just said,
22:57"Yeah, there was a horrible accident.
23:00There was a a semi that that smashed
23:03into this truck in the middle of the
23:04night and the driver was really badly
23:07hurt." And so they rushed him to the
23:09hospital and on the way to the hospital
23:11the guy was saying that he was on his
23:13way home to Tennessee to to go back to
23:15his wife and his baby but you know he
23:18died on the way to the hospital and they
23:21never actually identified him and his
23:23body was never claimed. So it's just a
23:26it's a horrible tragedy. Now when Jesse
23:29and Bill heard this, I mean they looked
23:30at each other in total disbelief because
23:32[music] the description they just got
23:34definitely sounded like Clayton. like
23:37they knew who this guy was. It was
23:38Clayton. It had to be. And so Jesse told
23:41the farmer that actually she does know
23:43who he is and she'd like to identify
23:45him. She'd like to be the person who's
23:47able to help get his family closure. The
23:50guy's name was Clayton and they had
23:51helped him, you know, just last month
23:53fix his engine. He had stopped on the
23:55side of the road and they had helped
23:56him. And so they just wanted to to
23:58figure out a way to pass that
23:59information along. Now, as they were
24:01saying this to the old man, the old man,
24:03he had this this strange look come over
24:05[music] his face, like he didn't really
24:07understand what they were even saying.
24:09And then when they stopped speaking and
24:10they were waiting for the old man to
24:12provide some guidance here, [music] he
24:14just looked at Jesse and said, "You've
24:16got to be mistaken."
24:18And Jesse's like, "No, no, we we
24:20definitely feel like this has got to be
24:22Clayton. The story it completely lines
24:24up. We even know that that's the right
24:25license plate on the truck down there."
24:28But the old man's like, "Okay, but no,
24:32you have to be mistaken because the
24:34crash I'm talking about that killed this
24:36guy, it happened 10 [music] years ago.
24:39That truck has been sitting there for 10
24:42years now." When Jesse and Bill heard
24:44this, like their whole worldview
24:46suddenly shattered, right? Because they
24:48had this visceral, real, in some ways
24:51multiple interactions with Clayton. If
24:53you include Jesse's sighting of Clayton,
24:56you know, a few hours after they got
24:57home, like they they interacted with
24:59him, they saw him, they talked to him,
25:01they spent time with him, and it wasn't
25:0210 years ago, it was a month ago. And so
25:05for them, they they can't believe it.
25:07They're they don't even know how to
25:08process this. But it gets weirder
25:10because Jesse and Bill are not the only
25:13people who have reported seeing Clayton
25:16after his death. At least three other
25:19people have reported physically seeing
25:21Clayton, specifically at the Hollywood
25:24Motel, always on the anniversary of
25:26[music] his death.
25:35>> [music]
25:40>> One winter morning in 1963, a 7-year-old
25:44boy named Keith Field stood on the side
25:46of a snowy, foggy road in South London,
25:49holding a snowball in one hand and a lit
25:52sparkler in the other. So Keith was
25:54about to start playing a game that he
25:55and his friends had invented. And the
25:57way it worked is [music] the friend
25:59group would split in half and some of
26:01the kids would go on one side of the
26:02road, the other half would go on the
26:04other, and they all would light
26:06sparklers, and they all would grab
26:08snowballs. And they would keep throwing
26:10snowballs back and forth across the road
26:12trying to hit all the sparklers until
26:15one side's row of sparklers, till one
26:17team's sparklers had all been
26:20extinguished by the snowballs. However,
26:22today the game was going to be
26:24especially challenging because it was
26:28really really foggy out. Like you could
26:30barely see, you know, a few feet in
26:31front of you, but at a distance you
26:33could definitely make out like a
26:35sparkler. So, they thought it would be
26:37fun to try to play this game in the fog.
26:39And so, Keith and his friends are all
26:40ready. They're they're lined up on, you
26:42know, respective sides of the road. And
26:44even though they can't really see each
26:45other, they can just see those
26:46sparklers. At some point, one of Keith's
26:49friends on the other side called out
26:51that the game had begun. And like right
26:54away, all the kids are lobbing snowballs
26:57back and forth across the road. And one
26:59by one, sparklers are getting
27:00extinguished. And you know, Keith, he's
27:02he's narrowly dodging the the snowballs
27:04coming in, which you really can't see
27:06until the last second. So, it's just
27:07kind of luck. And then at some point,
27:09even though he was doing his best, a
27:11snowball hit a sparkler and it was
27:13extinguished.
27:14>> [music]
27:14>> Now, Keith knew that for this particular
27:16round of their game, he was out and
27:19basically he would have to wait [music]
27:20until, you know, one side fully won, but
27:23he knew that they were going to play
27:25again. And so, he would need another
27:26sparkler and the sparklers, the unused
27:29sparklers were on the other side of the
27:31road in a box. And so, Keith just
27:34decided he would go across the road and
27:36grab a sparkler to be ready for the next
27:38round. And so Keith, the seven-year-old
27:41boy, begins to cross the street, and
27:44it's a short distance, but remember,
27:46it's very foggy. He's he's making his
27:48way and he gets about halfway when out
27:51of the corner of his eye, he sees light
27:54and he turns and it's basically too late
27:57at this point, but he sees two
27:59headlights of a car bearing down on him.
28:01Clearly, they they [music] can't see
28:03him. It's too foggy. He's got nowhere to
28:05go. And he braced for [music] impact.
28:08However, what happened next defies
28:12explanation. So, there were quite a few
28:14witnesses to what happened next. There
28:16were the other kids playing the game
28:18with Keith who were standing on either
28:20side of the [music] road who even though
28:21it was foggy, they could see the car
28:23approaching. They could hear Keith
28:25screaming out as the car approached.
28:27They were screaming out to get him out
28:28of the road like they're seeing this
28:30happen in real time despite the fog. And
28:33then there were also three other people
28:34who were not actually playing the game,
28:36but who were in the area that also were
28:39witnesses and gave statements about what
28:41they saw. And what they witnessed is
28:44this car. It's coming through the fog
28:46right down the middle of the road at
28:47about 40 mph. The driver has not seen
28:50Keith. Keith can't get out of the way.
28:52And right before the car hits Keith, it
28:55stops on a dime. And the driver of that
28:57car dies. Like instantly this happens.
29:01And so Keith, he's he's standing there
29:02after the car has come to a stop and
29:04he's looking around like, "What even
29:06happened?" Like nobody even heard the
29:07screeching of the car. The car just just
29:09stopped. And then people swarm the car
29:12and they [music] find the drivers
29:14slumped over in the car. Like no one
29:16could understand what had even happened.
29:17And this [music] the Scotland Yard, they
29:19come out and they're doing an
29:20investigation and and they can't really
29:22understand it. They do an autopsy on the
29:24driver. There was no clear cause of
29:27death. The person was was healthy. There
29:29was no underlying health issues. They
29:31just suddenly stopped living. The car,
29:34it couldn't have stopped based on how
29:35fast it was going. And also, amazingly,
29:38the speedometer was frozen at 40 mph,
29:41which is presumed to be how fast it was
29:43going at the time it stopped and didn't
29:46hit Keith. So, it's going, you know, 40
29:48plus miles an hour and stops on a dime.
29:51Like, that didn't seem possible. And so
29:54people, you know, they couldn't decide
29:55if this was a miracle or a tragedy
29:57because, you know, Keith almost
29:58certainly would have been killed. So he
30:00lives, but the the driver dies. It was
30:03just this freak thing that no one really
30:04knew what to make of. [music] However,
30:07years later, Keith would ultimately
30:09write an article about his experience,
30:11like almost getting hit by this [music]
30:13car. and he would finally document the
30:16very strange thing that he personally
30:19experienced at the moment when that car
30:22was about to strike him. Something to
30:23that point he had never shared with
30:26anyone. Keith said that as he crossed
30:29the road on the day that you know this
30:31whole thing happened, he got about
30:32halfway when he noticed out of the
30:34corner of his eye some light bearing
30:36down on him. and he turns and [music] he
30:38sees the headlights of this car and he
30:40knows immediately that the car the
30:42driver doesn't see him. They're going
30:44too fast. He's not going to be able to
30:46get out of the way. He's about to get
30:48hit. Very likely he's about to die. And
30:50like time slowed down and he's he's
30:53bracing for impact as this car is
30:54[music] going to end his life. And so in
30:57that moment when time stood still, Keith
30:59said that he suddenly began to feel like
31:01the air around him, like all that fog
31:04all around him was suddenly being sucked
31:07into his body. Like his body was like
31:09eating up all the air all around him.
31:12This is again happening in like a
31:13fraction of a second. And then out of
31:15his body came this light, this blue
31:18light that was almost like the the
31:20filtration of the air going through him.
31:22that's coming out of him. Like this life
31:24force, this blue air, this blue fog
31:27comes out of him. And Keith would say
31:29that the blue light turned and shot at
31:34the car. And the second it made contact
31:36with the car, the car stopped, the
31:38driver slumped over and died. And then
31:40the blue light, the blue air, whatever
31:42it was, just [music] vanished. To this
31:45day, they still don't even know how that
31:47car stopped how it did or how that guy
31:50died. And so as crazy as it is that he's
31:52describing this blue light being
31:53responsible, there is no alternative
31:56explanation. Now, as a 7-year-old boy
31:59who's now somehow or another, you know,
32:01because of this light or not, survived a
32:04near-death experience here, cuz he
32:06should have been hit by that car. He
32:07should have died. Keith did not come out
32:09of that experience thinking, "Boy, I
32:12better investigate that weird sensation
32:14of thinking I'm seeing a blue light that
32:16somehow did this and tell everyone."
32:18Like, he's a seven-year-old. He can
32:19barely articulate what's even happened
32:21[music] in real time, let alone this
32:23bizarre blue light thing. And so he just
32:25kept it to himself. And he also, again,
32:27he felt so guilty, however this
32:30happened, that somehow he had been
32:32spared and the driver had not. And so he
32:34just felt like bad talking about this
32:37blue thing. However, as Keith grew up,
32:40he thought more and more about what
32:42happened to him. And he he tried to find
32:44meaning in in what happened. like what
32:46was this blue light that he has come to
32:49believe saved his life and ended that
32:52driver's life? Like is this
32:54representative of some like protector in
32:56my life? Like is there something blue in
32:59my life that you know in some way,
33:01shape, or form is connected [music] to
33:03protecting me? And he's like thinking
33:05about all these crazy things that could
33:06connect all this together.
33:08But he has no idea. He just feels bad
33:11that he lived and the driver died and
33:14somehow this blue light was a part of
33:16it. At least that's his perspective. Now
33:18whether or not Keith's story is true
33:19about the light, we don't know. But what
33:21we do know is that a car was traveling
33:24really fast down the road, like at least
33:26at 40 mph, and it came to a stop within
33:29an inch of the boy, and it stopped
33:32faster and more efficiently than the car
33:34was designed to be able to do. So it it
33:37comes to this impossible stop and at the
33:40exact same moment the driver dies and we
33:43have no idea how they died, what caused
33:45them to die, but they die at the exact
33:47same second and there's like a dozen
33:50witnesses to this thing happening.
33:52That's what we do know. But why that
33:55happened, how it happened, whether the
33:57the blue light was involved, we may
34:00never know.
34:11Thank you so much for watching. Let me
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