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0:00Before incarnating, the soul decides
0:02its time of birth, date of birth,
0:04family, the people with whom it has a
0:05soul contract, those it wants to
0:07experience things with, and major
0:09milestones.
0:10If it is possible to predict the future
0:11, what room is left for free will? Is
0:13everything written? What is the impact
0:15of the decisions I make today?
0:16I did work 10 years in HR in total. I
0:19never used the word medium until my 30s
0:20when everything opened up. The Akashic
0:22records. To me, it's actually an energy
0:24. We connect to it; it's a bit like a
0:25cloud that is there and exists. You can
0:28have access to more or less all
0:29incarnations, and indeed, you can also
0:30access different futures, meaning all
0:32the potential futures of the person.
0:35While we are in the records, I can
0:36receive information about past lives,
0:38soul traumas in this life, or
0:40intergenerational issues. And in fact,
0:42the information I receive is what the
0:44person is capable of hearing today.
0:46This limit is more ethical than
0:48physically mechanical; someone who
0:49didn't have the best intentions could
0:51probably crack the code and force their
0:53way in a little.
0:54Yeah, totally. I know it's annoying
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1:12am delighted to welcome Débora Saras
1:14to the show today. Débora, thank you
1:16very much for being with us today.
1:18Yes, hello Remy, thank you very much
1:19for having me. I am so happy to be here
1:21.
1:23So, listen, you sent me a little
1:24message and I was super happy to have
1:26you on the show, because I think you
1:28have a slightly different profile, uh,
1:30given that your awakening or opening
1:32happened relatively—maybe not late—
1:34but you are relatively young, so not
1:36that long ago—and it was quite sudden
1:38. Uh, so I would be very curious to dig
1:40into all these topics with you. But
1:41perhaps before we talk about your "
1:43after," I am curious to learn more
1:44about your "before." So, what did your
1:47life look like before your spiritual
1:48opening, before this awakening that
1:50supposedly happened in your 30s, I
1:51think. Uh, there you go. Did you
1:55already have a certain sensitivity
1:57during your early childhood, and how
1:59did that evolve throughout your
2:01adolescence and young adulthood?
2:05Yeah, completely. Well, actually, when
2:08I was little, I already saw entities
2:10and spirits in my room. Specifically my
2:14great-great-grandmother—well, I only
2:15found out not that long ago that it was
2:17her who was in the room. And it's true
2:20that it scared me a bit because,
2:22obviously, when you're little and you
2:23see shadows, you see eyes watching you,
2:25you think, "Whoa, what is that?" So I
2:28always slept with the duvet over my
2:30head. My parents would tell me, "No,
2:32don't worry Debora, you're having
2:34nightmares, there's no one in your room
2:36, everything's fine," and so on. So,
2:38there you go, I grew up with it, let's
2:40say.
2:41At that time, were there any
2:42interactions with these beings, or was
2:44it more just being aware that they were
2:46present without any direct interaction?
2:50Yes, in fact, there was no interaction;
2:52it was really just a presence. They
2:54were there, and I didn't really know.
2:57Honestly, I was just scared, and it's
2:59true that looking back, I tell myself
3:00maybe I could have tried to talk to
3:02them, to know who they were and why
3:04they were there. But, at two or three
3:07years old, I wasn't very brave. I was
3:11more in a state of fear and avoidance,
3:13thinking, "Okay, I'm hiding," but yeah,
3:15looking back, it could have been super
3:16interesting to do that. So, they didn't
3:20necessarily interact with you either?
3:22No, no, no. I didn't hear anything; I
3:25didn't hear any speech or words or
3:27sounds, it was really just visual.
3:30OK.
3:31So
3:31so that was when I was really very
3:32young, 2 or 3 years old. Did it
3:34continue for the rest of your youth, or
3:36did you kind of close the door? How did
3:39it go for you? Yeah. Well, I closed the
3:42door, I think, in a quite natural and
3:47spontaneous way, really, as soon as I
3:50started school, where you're with
3:52teachers and other students in, let's
3:55say, a normal environment. Well, in any
3:58case, there’s no—I mean, nobody
4:00talks about seeing people in their room
4:02and so on. And I think I didn’t
4:04really dare to talk about it and,
4:05actually, it stopped quite quickly. Uh,
4:07but on the other hand, during my
4:09childhood and adolescence, uh, I did
4:12experience a few little episodes, let's
4:14say paranormal, as they say in common
4:17parlance. Uh, you know, objects moving
4:20during the night, some weird noises, uh
4:22, sensations, so really clairsentience.
4:25Uh, sensations when I walked into
4:27places or when I spoke with people I
4:29met, actually, I felt certain things,
4:32certain emotions that didn't belong to
4:34me. Uh, so there was a lot of that, all
4:36the same. And, uh,
4:38And how did you explain that to
4:39yourself at the time? Did you already
4:41label yourself as a medium and so on?
4:44Did you have a rational side that said,
4:46"Okay, it's a coincidence, I'm just
4:48imagining things." How did you make
4:50sense of all that at the time?
4:52Uh yeah, I think I, actually I
4:53questioned myself: does this belong to
4:55me, I mean, does this emotion belong to
4:57me or does it belong to the other
4:58person? That it's just that, well,
5:01maybe I'm hyper-empathetic,
5:02hyper-sensitive, and so I feel what the
5:04person is feeling. Uh, yeah, I think it
5:07was more along those lines that I saw
5:09things and, indeed, I didn't see myself
5:11—I mean, I never used the word medium
5:14before, before I turned 30, when
5:16everything opened up. And, uh, but it's
5:19true that at the beginning, yeah, it
5:21was really more about feelings, and so
5:23in relationships, in interactions, I
5:25told myself, well, I think there are
5:27other reasons than, uh, extrasensory
5:30abilities. I mean, yeah, I had no
5:32knowledge of that at all at the time.
5:34OK. And so that’s adolescence. After
5:37that you worked, did you do traditional
5:39studies, shall we say? Did you work in
5:41a traditional field or did you turn
5:43directly to these kinds of subjects?
5:45Yes, I was in very traditional studies.
5:48I did a bachelor's in psych, uh, so in
5:50psychology, which helps me today,
5:52obviously, in my sessions. And I
5:54continued with a master's in HR, so in
5:57human resources, as part of a
5:58work-study program. And so, there you
6:01go, I very quickly entered the
6:02professional HR field. And it's true
6:06that I've always had, nonetheless, a
6:07knack for sensing things during
6:09recruitment interviews, whether it was
6:11for me to be integrated into a company
6:13or when I wore the HR hat to, therefore
6:15, welcome and recruit people into the
6:17company or the non-profit, because I
6:19also worked in non-profits. Uh it's
6:23true that it was, well, I had a knack
6:25but I didn't know where it came from
6:26actually, but anyway, so yes, I had a
6:28very classic career path. Uh I worked
6:31for 10 years in HR in total.
6:34OK.
6:35And the awakening actually happened,
6:36the tipping point.
6:38Yeah, well, there we are, we're aligned
6:40. Uh so in my former, in my former job,
6:43I was in an animal welfare association.
6:47Uh, I had recruited someone who, uh, uh
6:49, had been there for about a year, uh,
6:51who was a medium. But, actually, I
6:53didn't know she was a medium, and since
6:55we were all working remotely, uh, we
6:57only saw each other during seminars or
6:58during, uh, in-person meetings or
7:00training sessions when they were
7:01organized. But otherwise, we were
7:04really all behind the screen, and if
7:06there wasn't a reason to talk on video,
7:08we didn't necessarily speak, and this
7:10person, well, by chance, we ended up
7:12sitting next to each other on the train
7:14to go to the seminar in Marseille. So
7:17we had 7 hours on the train between
7:18Bordeaux and Marseille. So I can tell
7:21you that, well, there was plenty to
7:22talk about. And so I do my HR thing, I
7:25ask her how things are going in her
7:27team. And she says, "Well, look, I
7:29don't know if you know, but I'm
7:30actually a medium." Oh well no, I
7:32didn't know at all, that's so cool. And
7:34she's the first medium I'd really met,
7:37uh, properly speaking at least, with
7:39whom I had an exchange like that. And
7:42she tells me, well, actually, since I
7:44feel people, there are some people with
7:46whom I know it's fluid and I can go for
7:47it, so I do, and the people I don't
7:49really feel, well, I protect myself and
7:51that's it. So she tells me, for me, it
7:53goes well. And so obviously we start
7:55talking about her mediumship. Uh, we
7:58talk about souls, entities. Uh, knowing
8:00that with my partner, we had, uh, not
8:02so long ago, bought a house that is 100
8:04years old. So I said to myself, "Oh my,
8:06there must be a ton of people in this
8:08house." And she told me, "Actually,
8:10there is something in you that wants to
8:13grow." She said, "I don't know what it
8:14is. There is an energy that is a bit
8:17compressed, a bit suppressed, and it
8:18wants to expand." And there you go, she
8:20said, "Well, maybe go see someone who
8:22could help you." So, well, obviously, I
8:25followed her advice and went to see a
8:26magnetizer who unblocked everything for
8:28me. I felt everything. It was only over
8:31the phone, too. So, pretty, pretty
8:34mind-blowing for a first experience in
8:37this field. And so yes, I really felt
8:39everything from head to toe, everything
8:41he was doing to me. And just after that
8:43, my hands started to heat up. The
8:45solar plexus, which is where this
8:47psychic colleague had told me, "Well,
8:50this needs to grow." Actually, it was
8:52at the level of the plexus. I felt that
8:54my solar plexus was opening up and
8:56starting to spin, to heat up during the
8:58night. It was a very strange sensation.
9:01And actually one morning, I wake up and
9:03I see a YouTube notification from a
9:06magnetizer who does training and says,
9:08"Well, come see me at the wellness fair
9:10in Bordeaux." So, I think to myself,
9:12there are no coincidences; I had never
9:14watched videos like that on YouTube at
9:16that time. So, unless indeed with the
9:18Google search I did for the magnetizer,
9:20it perhaps linked to YouTube, I don't
9:22know. I'm not tech-savvy enough to know
9:25how it works. But anyway, in any case,
9:27I received that notification. So, I met
9:30the magnetizer who told me, "Well
9:32actually, your guide is telling me that
9:33he is the one who pushed you toward me
9:35because you've had 20 lives as a healer
9:37." And so now, it's your soul that is
9:41clearly giving you this call to do what
9:43it already knows how to do in this life
9:46. "And then, she talks to me about free
9:48will. She said," Look, obviously, you
9:50have your free will. So if you want to
9:52test things out, see how it can open up
9:54for you, you can get trained. "Well,
9:57there you go, because she tells me,"
9:58You can already feel things happening
10:00in your hands, you can feel energies
10:02starting to circulate a little
10:03differently in your body. "But all of
10:05that has to be learned, it has to be
10:06channeled. You can't just, well, you
10:08can be self-taught, but it's a bit
10:09dangerous. So, it's a perilous path.
10:11Anyway, she basically explained that to
10:13me and I thought it was great, and she
10:14told me," Well, if you don't want to
10:16get into that, then you just stay as
10:17you are and go on with your life. "Well
10:20, obviously, when someone tells you
10:22that, you think," Well, I don't know if
10:24I can really, how should I say, have
10:25all this information in my head and go
10:27on with my life as if nothing happened.
10:30"So for two weeks, honestly, it was on
10:32my mind, I couldn't think about
10:33anything else. I talked to my partner
10:35about it, I said," It's just crazy,
10:36though. "
10:37Because, at that moment, did you feel
10:39like you were, was there some
10:40unhappiness in what you were doing at
10:41the time, or were you very happy with
10:42your life? You know, because sometimes
10:46you have these awakening journeys that
10:47start with a burnout, you see, where
10:49you feel there's resistance and maybe
10:50something calling, explicitly or not.
10:53somewhere else. Was it a bit like that
10:55for you, or actually no, you were very
10:56happy and it just kind of fell on you
10:58without you having asked for anything
10:59at all. Yeah, that's an interesting
11:01question. But honestly, it's true that
11:03in my journey, it's great, well it
11:05really aligns well. The fact is that
11:07things were going very well for me at
11:09that time, and so I decided to get
11:11trained. So there you go, I had my
11:13first guinea pigs: my husband, some
11:15people in the family. And, well, for
11:17whom it worked: the back pain would
11:19disappear, the sciatica would disappear
11:21, and so on. So one thing leading to
11:23another, well, through word of mouth, I
11:25had people from outside my circle of
11:26friends and family who started to be
11:27interested in treatments. So, I opened
11:31my company, I started doing sessions
11:33officially, and after a while, when it
11:35started, well, to grow a bit more,
11:37let's say, in terms of sessions, well,
11:39appointments, but also in my own
11:41interest, in my vibration, where I told
11:43myself:" Actually, I can really see
11:45myself doing only this, and I want to
11:47do only this. "So then I had a turning
11:50point with the HR side, where it
11:52started to interest me much less, and I
11:55was starting to get really bored in my
11:57job, clearly. And where things also
12:01stopped going well with my manager, and
12:03, and I think I got the call early
12:06enough. Well, in any case, I listened
12:10to the call early enough, or at least
12:11at the right time, to avoid falling
12:13into burnout, because I think I could
12:15have, I definitely could have gone
12:17there. In any case, the ground was
12:20pretty slippery heading in that
12:22direction toward the end of, well, my
12:24journey with the association, and I
12:25think it was really the best time for
12:27me. Anyway, everything was super
12:30aligned, so it was great. So I was
12:32lucky. There you go, it was actually
12:34quite, quite gentle.
12:35Today, you're comfortable with
12:36everything related to energy, and so on
12:38. How do you make sense of what
12:40happened when you saw that—well, you
12:42didn't see him, you called that first
12:43energy healer? Because it's true that
12:46it's something that also comes up quite
12:47often in testimonials. Someone who goes
12:49to see a practitioner, an energy healer
12:51, and suddenly a whole bunch of
12:53faculties or physical manifestations
12:55awaken. How do you make sense of what
12:57happened at that moment today? I
12:59imagine that back then you didn't
13:00really understand it like that, but
13:01today, how do you explain it to
13:02yourself?
13:03Yeah, that's for sure. Yes, you need
13:05perspective to understand and see a
13:07little bit, well, what was happening
13:09within us. Uh, actually, what I notice
13:12is that in almost all my sessions—
13:14well, maybe not all, because, you know,
13:16there are people for whom it's not yet
13:17the right time for them to open up, or
13:19there are people for whom it will
13:20perhaps never open up because they
13:22don't need to develop it or because
13:23they are afraid and they block it. But
13:26still, in most of the sessions I do
13:29today, uh, it actually opens the third
13:31eye. So it opens up people's abilities,
13:34their hands start to heat up, you know,
13:36they feel things, and in fact, I'm also
13:39awakening the extrasensory capacities
13:41of the people who come to see me for
13:43energy healing. So the parallel I draw
13:46is that he ultimately did what I now do
13:48as well, uh, for people. It's, uh,
13:51trying to lift the hood, trying to
13:54understand what you do or what he did
13:56that actually allows for this opening
13:59and, well, this activation of abilities
14:02.
14:03Is it, well, trying to understand from
14:05an energetic, physiological, or
14:06biological point of view—I'm not sure
14:09at what level, I'll let you decide how
14:11we should observe it—but what is your
14:13understanding of what happens that has
14:15this kind of impact?
14:17Yeah. Well, my understanding is that,
14:19ultimately, energetically, we come to
14:21clear all the energy channels. So all
14:24the energy that really circulates from
14:25head to toe, right to the tips of the
14:27fingers. And so if the energy is a bit
14:30clogged, I don't know, in the hands—
14:32that's really the meridians, the energy
14:34channels—or in the feet, it can limit
14:36grounding. If we have energetic
14:40implants here—so entities that put
14:43not-so-nice things in our chakras, in
14:45our energy bodies. Indeed, it can also
14:49block perceptions, it can block
14:50intuition. And so, by clearing
14:53everything—really removing, in the
14:55end, everything that could be blocking,
14:58whether it's emotions, karmic memories,
15:00toxic ties, or, you know, implants or
15:02etheric objects, or even holes and
15:04cracks in the aura. Actually, by coming
15:08in to clean and harmonize everything,
15:11the energy naturally starts to flow
15:13correctly again. In fact, it's happy,
15:15it's all fluid. It's like a great
15:18plumber who arrives and unclogs the
15:20pipes so that the water can flow.
15:23And because ultimately, that's what I
15:25understand from what you're telling me:
15:27we might have this connection and this
15:30information coming through us all the
15:32time, but most people, generally
15:34speaking, perhaps have these channels a
15:37bit clogged by traumas that create
15:39points of contraction, making it so the
15:42information doesn't flow naturally,
15:44shall we say. And so, going to see—or
15:47by phone, well, working with—a
15:49magnetizer can help unclog one's
15:50channels so that information can flow
15:52more fluidly and reconnect us, then, to
15:54this source of information, source of
15:56light, or I don't know what.
15:59Yeah, totally. And actually, we can all
16:01channel because, well, we are all alive
16:03and we are all here, we are incarnated,
16:05we are living. So we have a soul, we
16:08have guides, we have chakras, and so we
16:10have the third eye chakra which can
16:12open and which can, in any case, come
16:14to transmit information to us through
16:16intuition. Uh, so it's clear that we
16:19are all capable of receiving.
16:21I don't know to what extent you'll be
16:23able to answer this question, but it's
16:25a question I ask myself, and you see,
16:27I'm always trying to understand the
16:28link between, you know, the physical
16:30and the energetic, you see. We talk a
16:32lot about the third eye, notably in
16:34Indian culture and so on. We have the
16:36little spot right here which is the
16:37third eye. Why is this third eye and
16:40this specific spot so important in this
16:43connection with these subtle worlds,
16:45precisely?
16:47Perhaps from an energetic point of view
16:49, but does this energy anchor itself in
16:51something more physical, physiological,
16:54and so on?
16:55Yeah, completely. Uh, actually, the
16:57third eye, which is indeed located in
16:59the middle of the forehead, is directly
17:01connected to the pineal gland, uh,
17:03which is located roughly between the
17:05back of the skull and the middle of the
17:07brain. Actually, it's a small gland
17:09that gets activated, uh, and so we
17:11actually come to energetically cleanse
17:13this gland during the healing session.
17:15Uh, and so, there you go, it's directly
17:17connected. So that's already a facet
17:20that I think is essential. And then for
17:24me, it's also everything that is—so
17:25we're talking about the third eye, but
17:26then we also have the crown chakra. We
17:29have the 8th chakra and all the higher
17:32chakras that we also come to cleanse,
17:34so, to really come and fluidize and
17:36open, in the best way possible, well,
17:38this energetic channel, ultimately. Uh,
17:41so there you go, for me it's a whole,
17:43but indeed the pineal gland is super
17:45important from a physiological point of
17:47view in, uh, in the perceptions and the
17:49capabilities we can have. You're
17:52talking about the pineal gland, and
17:53it's true that I've looked into it a
17:55bit because I was curious about the
17:56chakra system, for my part. I’m in a
17:58mode where, well, for a large part of
17:59my life it was mostly symbolic, and if
18:01that speaks to people from a symbolic
18:02standpoint, I’m like, that’s great,
18:04it can make sense too. But now, I’m
18:07gradually reconnecting a bit with the
18:09idea that there is actually a parallel
18:11with, well, the chakra system, but also
18:13the endocrine system that modern
18:14science has rediscovered, where all the
18:16body's glands have specific functions
18:18based on the hormones they secrete,
18:20which play a particular role in
18:21regulating the system. And so,
18:24there’s a bit of this parallel, and
18:25it’s interesting that you mention the
18:27pineal gland and a whole bunch of other
18:28glands that also have other functions.
18:32When you say we come to" clean, "how
18:34would you, to help the people at home
18:36try to better understand what is meant
18:37by" cleaning "? Is the image—I’ll
18:41stick with this plumber image, which
18:43might be a bit crude but at least
18:44it’s very concrete. A plumber with a
18:47clog arrives, they’ll apply a big
18:49burst of pressure and it will clear the
18:51pipe. Is that how you see this cleaning
18:54as well? By putting in a lot of energy
18:57to go and unclog the plumbing, or is it
19:00more subtle? Is it more like a knot,
19:03and you come in to untie the knot, like
19:05the equivalent of—I don’t know—
19:07using drain cleaner to work more gently
19:09? I think we’ve reached the limit of
19:11that metaphor. But you understand, when
19:14you talk about cleaning, how do you see
19:16things? Yeah, I love it. Well, first
19:19off, I love that you used the plumber
19:20example because my partner works in
19:22construction. So, there you go, it’s
19:25just, you see?
19:25Magnificent.
19:26There you go, it’s perfect. Uh, so
19:29for me, it’s softer, actually; we
19:31don’t just apply, indeed, a big burst
19:33of energy. Actually, an energy healing
19:37session, if you will, involves several
19:39steps. So, for me, at least my way of
19:41doing things, would it be interesting
19:42if I described the session? In any case
19:45, how it unfolds?
19:46Yeah. Briefly, in broad strokes. I
19:48think it could be interesting to
19:49provide some context and maybe, what is
19:51your own experience of what’s
19:52happening? Yeah. Okay.
19:54That’s the most interesting part.
19:55Yeah. Well, very well.
19:56What you just heard resonates with you.
19:58I wanted it to stay with you beyond
19:59this episode. That's why I created what
20:02I call vibrational cards. They are
20:04artworks I made with a word or an
20:06intention behind them, that you can
20:09place in your living room, or on your
20:11fridge, to remind you daily of a
20:13vibration or a state of being you want
20:16to embody. Every month, I send them for
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20:29get back to it. So, first of all, for
20:30the healing session, I actually protect
20:32the person. Protection is something,
20:35for those who already know me, that I
20:37place great importance on because
20:39energy work is not something trivial.
20:42You can do anything, but that's not the
20:45goal; the goal is to set boundaries and
20:48really keep things in check. Because I
20:52know people, or have heard stories of
20:54people who weren't well-protected or
20:56weren't connected to the right guides
20:58and so on. And it turns into a mess. So
21:01you really have to be super careful,
21:04both for yourself as a practitioner and
21:06for the client coming in for the
21:08session. So, protection: we call upon
21:12everyone, the guides, the beings of
21:14light. First, I help souls and entities
21:16pass over. That's super important to me
21:20in the structure of my healing because
21:22if you don't help wandering souls and
21:25entities attached to the energy body
21:27and aura pass over, they are the ones
21:29who will benefit from the healing. So
21:32that's a bit of a shame. So, we help
21:35them pass over. Then, we go into the
21:37Akashic records, into the person's soul
21:39book, and we do the clearing. I always
21:42say" we "because, obviously, I don't
21:43work alone. I have guides with me, the
21:46beings of light. I am very much
21:47supported during the sessions. So, in
21:50the Akashic records, we clear all the
21:52karmic memories. Regarding being
21:55accompanied, do you know you're
21:57accompanied because you were told so
21:59and feel deep down that you're not
22:01doing all the work, or do you have a
22:03more concrete experience of this
22:05support? Do you perceive things? Are
22:08things communicated to you? And to what
22:10extent are you aware of this guidance
22:12in the moment?
22:14Yeah. Uh, well, first of all, I have my
22:17maternal great-grandmother who was a
22:19healer and is with me all the time. All
22:21the time, all the time. I feel her all
22:23the time. And as soon as I meet, well,
22:25all the time anyway, especially during
22:26a session, but she's often there
22:28regardless. Especially when I have
22:30projects, well, she accompanies me and
22:32every time I meet mediums, they tell me
22:33," Oh, is there a great-grandmother
22:35with you? "" Yes, yes, I know. "So
22:37there you go, she accompanies me a
22:39great deal.
22:40Bodybuilder, it's the bodyguard behind.
22:41Yeah, she's the bodyguard,
22:44she's so cute. And uh, and I also have,
22:47well, my guides who are with me, whom I
22:49feel, and who give me information. Uh,
22:52the person's guides too, who are
22:53present and give me info. And beings of
22:56light, actually, I see them, I feel
22:57them. Uh, so when we talk about...
22:59When you say they give you info,
23:01concretely, how do you perceive this
23:03info? Well, for me, concretely, it
23:07comes through clairaudience, but not,
23:08actually, people often think
23:10clairaudience comes from an external
23:11sound in the ear like when we speak to
23:13each other.
23:15But, well, for some people that's the
23:17case, but for me, it...it comes more
23:18from within, actually. It's like
23:20someone is speaking with a voice, like
23:22when you talk to yourself, in the end.
23:25But, well, it comes, I...I...I manage
23:26to tell the difference because it's
23:27something that comes very spontaneously
23:29. I didn't think about it. It's not
23:31intellectualized, in fact. It's really
23:34something that comes like a thought,
23:36but it comes, well, out of the blue,
23:38just dropping into my thoughts on its
23:40own. Uh, so there's clairaudience in
23:43that way, and clairvoyance. Uh, so for
23:46that, it's the same, I really close my
23:48eyes and then I see flashes. Uh, I
23:50compare it a little bit to, you know,
23:52when you look at the sun or when
23:53someone takes your picture with a flash
23:55and when you close your eyes afterward,
23:57you still have the flash,
23:58you know, you still see a little golden
24:01white circle. So, for me, that's the
24:04flash, and that circle you can see, for
24:07me, it creates shapes, drawings, images
24:10that can move. So sometimes it's static
24:14, sometimes it moves, it depends.
24:16How did you manage it? You see, what
24:19you mention about" expecting an outside
24:20voice, "and often—it's something I
24:22hear from many of my guests—it's
24:23often not like that; it's much more
24:25subtle. And it's true that I've done a
24:28few little exercises myself:
24:29visualization, hypnosis, and so on,
24:31communicating with guides. I'm curious,
24:33so I tested it, and it's true that
24:35every time you have things, or
24:36automatic writing, etc., things come
24:38out, but very quickly I feel like I'm
24:40just making things up. How did you, in
24:43your early days, also have that
24:45impression, and how did you manage to
24:48learn to distinguish between what is
24:50part of the imagination and what is
24:52actually messages you receive from
24:54other entities or elsewhere?
24:56Yeah. It's true that at first it's very
24:59difficult to tell the difference, to
25:01say," Okay, that's me imagining it,
25:03it's my mind, "and" that's really what
25:06I received. "What helped me at the
25:09beginning was talking about it,
25:11practicing with my close friends, with
25:13girlfriends, with people in my family,
25:16saying," Listen, I'm connecting to you,
25:18let's do a little exercise and see what
25:20comes. "And I would always have little
25:23images that came, so I would talk about
25:25them, and they resonated. And when it
25:28resonates, I say to myself," Okay, this
25:31is really... "...
25:32you couldn't have invented that.
25:33Exactly, I can't invent it. And
25:35especially, as I told you, since it's a
25:37flash that appears before my eyes, it's
25:39not imagination. It's not something you
25:41thought of. So for me, thought, I
25:43imagine it behind, in my mind. That's
25:46how I distinguish it. Everything that
25:48is mental or thought-based is rather at
25:50the back of the head, and everything
25:51that is intuitive, it tends to come
25:53here. Perhaps that's my own mnemonic
25:56device. But in any case, what also
25:59allowed me to distinguish is that
26:02anything mental will be things that are
26:04very logical, very explainable through
26:07reason, something reasonable, something
26:10that can be intellectualized and
26:12thought through. Whereas intuition,
26:16what we receive in a channeled way, it
26:18really comes, as I was saying, out of
26:20the blue, it just drops in; it's very
26:22spontaneous and very natural.
26:26Hm. You mentioned protection, and then
26:29perhaps we can...well, you already
26:30mentioned the rest of the session a bit
26:32, but afterwards we can dive back into
26:34how it actually works to talk more
26:35about untying those bonds. Maybe before
26:38we go back into that, I'd like to dig a
26:40little deeper into the notion of
26:41protection and so on, and entities.
26:44What I gather from everything I receive
26:46and hear on the podcast is that there
26:48really is a whole host of things in
26:49this afterlife, in these subtle worlds:
26:51good things and less good things.
26:55Perhaps you could tell us about an
26:57experience you've had, where you might
26:59have confronted or experienced this
27:01perhaps slightly darker side of these
27:03subtle worlds, and then close the loop
27:05with this protection: why is it
27:07important, and how does it work? Sort
27:10of trying, once again, to understand
27:12the mechanics behind all of that.
27:13Yeah, absolutely. So yes, in terms of
27:16entities, for me, it's really at the
27:18level of feeling. You see, we might
27:21feel, for example, some dizziness or
27:23discomfort in the stomach, in the solar
27:25plexus. You see, when it's really an
27:28unpleasant entity, that's actually more
27:30how it stands out for me. Whereas when
27:34it's something much, much more luminous
27:36, like an energy from, I don't know, a
27:39guide or an angel or an archangel, etc.
27:41, in that case, we will feel that it's
27:44truly love, it's truly benevolent, it's
27:46truly in the light. So when we receive
27:49messages, because, you know, when we
27:51haven't yet learned how to protect
27:52ourselves, and we don't yet know if we
27:54are well-connected to our guides or not
27:55. Uh, what also helps distinguish this
27:59is that if we receive messages that are
28:01a bit, uh, I don't know, a bit strange,
28:03you know, that come to question us,
28:05make us doubt, uh, that come to tell us
28:07:" Yes, you must do this "or" Whatever
28:09you do, don't do that, "or, you know,
28:11things that alert us and are a bit
28:13negative, let's say, and that can give
28:15us, you know, that feeling of a knot in
28:17the stomach or discomfort. In that case
28:20, it's clear that it's an entity or at
28:22the very least something that isn't
28:23very nice giving you the message.
28:25Whereas when it's a reassuring message,
28:27where we feel that, you know, there is
28:29a lot of love in the message, it will
28:31be more of a piece of advice rather
28:32than" do this "or" don't do that "or"
28:34you must do this, "it will be more like
28:36a suggestion. For example, hey, how
28:38about you go for a little walk in the
28:40forest, what do you think? There you go
28:42, it will be much gentler. And so there
28:44, you know, we know that it's more
28:45likely our guides or our soul, right?
28:47Exactly, intuition can be our guides or
28:49our soul coming to give us messages. So
28:51,
28:52I don't know if I answered your
28:53question well. Yes, yes, it resonates
28:55quite a bit and I think it's a good
28:56parallel to how I think people should
28:58interact with this kind of podcast and
29:01episodes. It's much the same, in the
29:02end, regardless of the source and
29:04authority of the information, what
29:06matters is the utility it has in one's
29:08life. Does it make us feel good and
29:09open us up, or is it something that
29:11makes us contract, that puts us in fear
29:13? And that, in general, is felt, as you
29:16say, in the body, and then, you know, I
29:19think it's a good compass for trying to
29:21work on one's discernment, trying to
29:23see, to turn instead toward what lifts
29:25us up rather than what drags us down.
29:28Uh
29:30yeah, completely. Listen, there are
29:32plenty of different paths I could have
29:34explored, but I think it would be
29:35interesting to perhaps bring things
29:36full circle and have you finish by
29:38explaining how a healing session
29:39actually works. What is it that goes to
29:43work on this energetic knot? You
29:45mentioned everything about Akashic
29:47records and so on. Alright, I'll leave
29:50all that to you.
29:51Yeah, sounds good. Thanks. Uh, but it
29:54was very interesting, in any case, this
29:56detour about guides, entities, and
29:58feelings. Uh, so Akashic records, yes,
30:01we’re going to clear karmic memories,
30:03uh, transgenerational memories, we’re
30:05going to cut toxic cords. Uh, and
30:08actually, in those moments, while
30:10we’re in the records, I can receive
30:13info on past lives, on soul traumas in
30:15this life or from the transgenerational
30:18line. Uh, and the info I receive is
30:21what the person is capable of hearing
30:24today, and it's also what presents
30:26itself because it's useful to clear it
30:28now.
30:30So we won't always get the same
30:31information. That’s what’s cool
30:34about it; depending on the sessions,
30:36there are things that are ready to come
30:38to the surface and be released. So
30:42we're going to release all of that. So
30:43it filters; it’s not you doing it.
30:45It’s not you who has access to all
30:46the info and says," Okay, I’m going
30:47to tell them this, I’m going to tell
30:49them that, we’ll work on this. "
30:50It’s more like:" I’m connecting,
30:52what is relevant for this person? "And
30:53what is brought to you is what is
30:55effective, as if there were some
30:57intelligence at work above, somewhere,
30:59that has access to a broader view,
31:01giving you the right info at the right
31:04time.
31:04Yeah, exactly. Uh, the way I do it is
31:08that, indeed, I don't read the soul.
31:11Right. Like an open book where I can
31:12see everything. It’s also reassuring
31:15for the person, because at least we
31:16can’t access information the person
31:18doesn't want to give us. So, in fact,
31:21we only have access to what the person
31:22is already willing to give us. Is it
31:24really, like, physically or
31:26metaphysically impossible for you to
31:28access that info, or is it more of an
31:30ethical boundary, saying," I won't go
31:32digging for info and I’ll only open
31:34the pages that are relevant "?
31:36How do you understand these things
31:37yourself? Because effectively, when I
31:40started looking into all these subjects
31:42, my ego suddenly got a bit scared
31:44thinking:" Oh no, but what does my
31:46private life mean if everyone can
31:48access this information, you know? "
31:51Yeah, that's clear. Yes, because it can
31:52be scary at first. You think:" Wait, I
31:55don't want the person to know this or
31:57that aspect of my life, or well, at
31:59least tell me things about my future
32:01that I don't necessarily want to hear,
32:03because that's sometimes the case in
32:05mediumship: you can also access, well,
32:07a future that's more or less near or
32:09far, and people aren't necessarily okay
32:11with hearing, well, everything,
32:13actually. "We don't necessarily want to
32:15know everything. So, I really made a
32:18pact with the universe and my guides
32:20when I started in energy work during my
32:22training, where I asked them, because I
32:23was hearing a little bit of everything.
32:26And, well, my great-aunt too, who read
32:28cards, saw many bad omens and that's
32:30why she stopped. And there you go. I
32:33said, please, I only want to receive
32:35messages that can be useful and
32:37relevant for the person, really what
32:40can help them. I don't want the rest.
32:42If it's superfluous or negative. Uh,
32:44and it's useless. Well, if it's just to
32:47rub salt in the wound, it's pointless.
32:49But in any case, if we can have things
32:51that are truly useful, we can be
32:53effective, we can help the person, well
32:55, send me that. What the person is also
32:57ready to hear. Well, send it to me in
33:00that way, or in the form of advice, or
33:02in any case in a way that is as gentle
33:04and benevolent as possible. And so, I
33:07don't need to filter things. So that's
33:09pretty nice. The only time I had to
33:13filter, or rather not filter, but keep
33:15to myself, was a person I really like,
33:17whom I've been accompanying for some
33:19time, and well, whom I accompany
33:21regularly, and so, well, I know her
33:23personal history and I actually saw,
33:25well, a wedding ring, so I knew she
33:27would soon, well, her partner would
33:29soon propose to her, and it's something
33:31she was waiting for. Well, I know it
33:34was something that, um, really made her
33:36thrive. She was really, um, eager for
33:38marriage. She was waiting for it,
33:40actually. With anticipation, so I
33:41didn't tell her, I didn't say," Oh, I
33:43saw the ring, he's going to propose
33:45soon. "So, I kept it to myself, and
33:47actually, I think it was really very
33:49quick. Maybe two or three weeks later,
33:51um, indeed, her sweetheart asked her to
33:52marry him. So she told me," Oh, he
33:55asked me, it's so cool. "Then I said,"
33:57Well, I confess that I knew. "She was
33:59so happy. She said to me," Well, it's
34:01cool that you didn't tell me. "And
34:02there, that's the only time I really,
34:04let's say, felt the need to keep it to
34:07myself.
34:08But otherwise, overall, I know that
34:10what I receive is, in any case, good
34:12for the person. After that, it's about
34:14bringing it up with tact, bringing it
34:16up sometimes with questions, a little
34:17inquiry like," Does this resonate with
34:19you? "Like, if I mention water, maybe
34:22someone who had a little trouble with
34:24water, a phobia in your family, does
34:26that ring a bell? And then, the person
34:29will say to me," Yes, my uncle drowned.
34:31"But in any case, I'm not the one who
34:32will say right off the bat," I see
34:34someone who died by drowning, "because,
34:35well, that's a bit brutal. So, there's
34:39always that filter of how I present
34:40things to the person, how I bring up
34:42what I see. But indeed, I am very, very
34:47happy and very grateful to be able to
34:50receive information in this way, or at
34:53least in such a luminous and kind way.
34:57And once again, there is this respect,
34:59this professional ethics, indeed, for
35:01the person, their free will, their
35:03private life. I find that, a priori, if
35:06I understand what you're saying
35:08correctly, this limit is more ethical
35:09rather than mechanical or physical:
35:11like" You can't have access. "
35:13Like someone who didn't have the best
35:15intentions could probably crack the
35:17code and force their way in a little.
35:20Um, and that's where I imagine things
35:22like black magic and so on come in, and
35:24maybe karma comes into play, etc. Yeah,
35:26totally.
35:28You, you spoke about predicting the
35:30future, and I think that's, that's the
35:31second element where, at the beginning
35:33when I started looking into these
35:35topics, my ego was a bit stung where I
35:37said to myself quite quickly:" Well,
35:39actually, if it's possible to predict
35:41the future, uh, what is the place of
35:43free will? "Is everything written? Is
35:45it, and so what is my role, and above
35:48all, what is the impact of the
35:50decisions I make today? Is there really
35:53any point in playing the game, or can I
35:55just be an observer pilot of the
35:57reality that is unfolding before me?
36:01What is your understanding today,
36:02precisely, of this notion of the future
36:04and this balance between destiny and
36:05free will?
36:07Yeah, that's super interesting. Uh, so
36:10from what I understand of it, from what
36:12I've experienced so far and from what I
36:13see and the info my guides give me, but
36:15there you go, it's my own truth, of
36:17course, it only commits me. Actually,
36:21in what we see in the soul books, so in
36:23the Akashic records and also in the
36:25cards, when we see the near future,
36:27actually, from what I've understood, is
36:29that the soul, before incarnating, does
36:31indeed decide its time of birth, date
36:33of birth, its family, the people with
36:35whom it has a soul contract, with whom
36:37it still wants to experience things.
36:41There you go, it still decides a
36:43certain number of things and major
36:44dates. So for example the date of
36:47marriage, the date with whom, of course
36:49, uh the date of birth of the children
36:52and it chooses in advance some
36:54with whom, is it systematic, do you
36:56think that all the people who are
36:58married today decided pre-incarnation
37:00on the person they are going to marry?
37:03Yeah.
37:03And perhaps if there is a divorce, they
37:05also decided that there was going to be
37:06a divorce.
37:07So for, so for me, yes. Well, maybe not
37:09in every case. There are perhaps cases
37:11where people kind of forced it,
37:12actually. There you go, that's where I
37:14find the, the limit of free will, is
37:16that actually all paths, we have
37:19several possible paths available. So we
37:22will have a path that will be the
37:24brightest, the fastest compared to
37:26others. We might have a path that takes
37:29some little loops, some small detours,
37:30and perhaps another path that takes a
37:32much longer detour, but one where we
37:33might meet other people, encounter
37:35obstacles, and so on. And so, for me,
37:38in any case, we still reach that goal.
37:41And, well, no matter which path we take
37:44, we will still reach this meeting
37:46point with that person or the child's
37:48birth date, regardless of what we
37:50ultimately chose to do. In any case, we
37:53will reach that crucial stage of the
37:55soul, or rather, the incarnation. And
37:57for me, um...
38:00I've already experienced this with
38:02people who force things one way or
38:04another, either they have—well, their
38:06soul was meant to meet a soulmate, they
38:08meet the soulmate, and they
38:10self-sabotage. So, yes, that can happen
38:14. I find it dramatic. It’s a real
38:17shame. And so, that’s exactly what
38:19we’re working on, doing some
38:21exercises to actually give the
38:23subconscious, the brain, the
38:25information that it’s possible to be
38:28happy, possible to live with a soulmate
38:30, possible to have the job of your
38:32dreams. But the brain still needs to be
38:36able to hear it, and when the event
38:38finally occurs, it needs to feel normal
38:40to the brain; because if a person has
38:43spent their whole life ruminating on
38:45negative things...well, the soul can't
38:47do anything about that. It’s the ego,
38:50it’s the wounds speaking. And so,
38:53indeed, if the person has never worked
38:55on that, well, they will self-sabotage.
38:57Conversely, for people who have, I
38:59don't know, other wounds, or who are
39:01convinced they absolutely must be with
39:04that specific person, they will do
39:06everything to be with them, but they
39:08will end up unhappy. And so, perhaps
39:12the soul had indeed decided that it
39:13shouldn't be that person, or that there
39:15should be a divorce at some point, and
39:17the person, in their heart of hearts,
39:19decided not to listen to the calls.
39:22Because it happens, right? People who
39:25don't listen to their intuition, who
39:26don't listen to their calling, and
39:28that’s where it’s sad and a shame,
39:30because the person ends up getting
39:31bogged down in a life that doesn't
39:33really suit them, in which they aren't
39:35fulfilled. And so there, indeed, I
39:38think it's free will that's at play:
39:40it's that the person decided, despite
39:41everything, even if they were unhappy,
39:43to stay in that situation. And so, well
39:46, there you have it. Besides,
39:47everything is as it should be, anyway,
39:49everything we experience makes us
39:50evolve one way or another. But just,
39:52well there, after a while, one might
39:54say: either I give them a little
39:56electric shock, so, in collaboration
39:58with the guides and the universe. So
40:00the famous burnout, the famous accident
40:02. There you go, it's in those moments,
40:04in fact, that it happens when we don't
40:05listen to intuition, when we don't
40:06listen to the calling. Uh, so it could
40:08be that.
40:10That's actually one of the questions I
40:11had, which is how can people reconnect
40:14with, well, what is actually, uh, the
40:16soul that has planned this path, which
40:18is the path of least resistance, or
40:20what is perhaps an insistence that my
40:22mind is placing on my daily life? You
40:24see, sometimes saying I absolutely must
40:26find someone, but in fact it's more of
40:27an insistence that the ego is adding
40:29rather than something that is truly a
40:30soul calling.
40:32The question I had for you is, how can
40:33we learn to make the distinction? And
40:35perhaps there, I catch a glimpse of a
40:37part of the answer, which is, well,
40:39listening to the intuition, uh, deep
40:40inside us that tells us, well, maybe
40:42it's this, maybe it's not that.
40:44Yeah, completely. Well, intuition, yes,
40:46that's the best answer I think, uh,
40:49that we can give to your question. Uh,
40:51so, there are courses
40:53on how to tell the difference between
40:55intuition and what comes from the mind.
40:57Yeah. Uh, so, there you go, so there
41:00are courses to, in fact, uh, learn how
41:02to protect yourself well, ground
41:04yourself, connect with your guides. Uh,
41:07so that's a course I offer, but I think
41:08there are others too who offer this
41:10type of training. That can really help.
41:13And otherwise, if you want to do it
41:14yourself at home, and in any case, even
41:16if you take courses, it's super
41:18interesting to do this exercise, uh,
41:20it's to take a little bit of time every
41:22day, maybe 5 minutes or 10 minutes. So,
41:25it's a little bit of time that can
41:27easily be slotted into our days, which
41:30are often very full, and actually,
41:32taking a little notebook and a pen,
41:34sitting down, closing your eyes,
41:37breathing, and letting thoughts pass by
41:39. It's a bit of a meditation exercise,
41:42really. Uh, we let thoughts pass by
41:44like clouds. So, we welcome them, we
41:46accept them, and we let them pass. We
41:48don't block them, we just let them
41:51drift by. Uh, not getting attached to
41:53the thought, actually. That's the
41:55crucial point of meditation: not
41:57telling yourself," Oh yes, I'm thinking
41:59about this because of that, or because
42:01of so-and-so. "No, it's okay: I'm
42:03thinking this, it's fine to think it, I
42:04saw you, and I'm letting you pass. And
42:07so, by really breathing, trying to
42:08clear your mind as much as possible,
42:10and opening yourself to receive. So, by
42:13closing your eyes and breathing, we
42:15often manage to connect a little more
42:17with our intuition, our guides, and our
42:19soul. Either we ask questions, we can
42:22say," Okay, my guides, right now I'm
42:24asking myself this question, or I could
42:25use this info or advice, can you give
42:27me some guidance? "And the goal here is
42:31to simply welcome whatever comes. So if
42:34a word, a sentence, a name, or a date
42:37comes, no matter what it is, just write
42:39it down immediately. If you don't write
42:42it down, you'll actually forget
42:43everything you've channeled. That's
42:45where we can also distinguish between
42:47the mind and intuition. Everything we
42:49channel, we forget almost instantly,
42:51just like a dream. You know, when you
42:54have a dream, when it's not super
42:56intense, you wake up in the morning,
42:57you think about it for 10 minutes, and
42:59then you forget it. If you haven't
43:00written it down, well, too bad.
43:02There you go. And if it's a very
43:04intense dream, maybe you'll remember it
43:05for a few days or perhaps your whole
43:07life.
43:07And intuition is the same; a
43:10a word or a piece of info that is super
43:11important to you, well, you'll
43:13certainly remember it for your whole
43:14life, or at least for a while. And
43:17information that might be very useful
43:19but less impactful for you at the
43:21moment, uh, you might forget because
43:23everything we channel, uh, won't
43:25necessarily speak to us right away. So
43:28that’s also why it's interesting to
43:29come and take notes at the same time.
43:31Well, this way we don't forget, uh,
43:33this information we received, and at
43:34the same time, we can come back and
43:36read it a few weeks or months later,
43:38and maybe then it will make more sense.
43:41OK. But if I understand correctly,
43:42intuition is perhaps the information
43:44that arrives when we manage to calm our
43:46mind a little. It's the information
43:48that arrives before we add layers of
43:49mental processing, because I think the
43:51mind tends to start running again very
43:53quickly, you see. Like, I like to speak
43:55in very concrete terms: we're in a job,
43:57we do this exercise, and we say to
43:58ourselves," No, actually this job isn't
44:00in alignment, "and then immediately the
44:02machine starts up." No, but actually,
44:04it's financial security, "and" actually
44:06, "and" actually, "and" actually, "so
44:08reconnecting with that first idea is
44:09often where we see intuition and where
44:11we see perhaps what our soul or
44:13something is trying to tell us.
44:15I would like to go back a bit, uh, to
44:17this question of free will, of
44:19predicting the future, and so on. So
44:22you were saying that there is perhaps
44:24this tree of possibilities that is
44:26present. Uh, plenty of possible paths
44:29that we can choose, and that’s where
44:31free will comes into play, with a few
44:33nodes perhaps that have been pre-chosen
44:35at the soul level. So, when you see or
44:38glimpse a future, are you actually
44:40glimpsing these nodes, which might be
44:42fixed nodes, or can you also glimpse
44:44the different possible trajectories? Uh
44:49, yeah.
44:50My question is: when we glimpse a
44:52future, is it automatically going to
44:54happen, or is it actually more of a
44:56tree of possibilities that exists, but
44:59free will and the choices the person
45:01makes at that moment might also change
45:03that trajectory?
45:05Yeah, that’s a super interesting
45:07question. Uh, well, at least the
45:09information I have is, uh, the most
45:11probable near future for the person at
45:13that given moment. So, in relation to
45:16their state of mind today and in
45:18relation to what they are—well, what
45:19they are heading toward, in any case.
45:22So I’ll get the information that,
45:24well, right now you're heading, I don't
45:26know, in such a direction. Uh, I feel
45:28that, well, in a few months, maybe
45:30you'll be able to, well, we were
45:32talking about encounters earlier. Maybe
45:34you'll actually meet the person of your
45:36life, or you'll be able to get that job
45:38, or maybe not. I mean, you know, maybe
45:41you might miss out on something if you
45:42keep going like that. Actually, it’s
45:44really going to be in the form of, once
45:45again, advice. Uh, and in fact, I’ll
45:48have access, if you will, to the
45:49person’s brightest path. So, I can
45:52steer them toward it, or at least give
45:53them the advice so they can head toward
45:55it themselves. And after that, that’s
45:58where their free will comes in, since
45:59they can decide, well, whether to
46:01follow the advice or not. And during
46:04the reading or during the channeling,
46:06uh, if what is foreseen for the person
46:08regarding what they are heading toward
46:10doesn't suit me. If they tell me," Well
46:13look, oh no, I don't want to break up
46:14with my, with my partner at all. "I
46:16mean, you know, that could be an
46:17example. Uh, I can tell them, well okay
46:19, if you don't want to separate from
46:20them, maybe there’s this or that you
46:21can do in that case, you see. And maybe
46:23there, we can connect to
46:25uh, what is the brightest future for
46:28that person? And I then ask for help
46:31from the guides so they can give me
46:33information, and indeed, well yes,
46:34their brightest future is to separate
46:36from that person. So then, I’ve given
46:39them information saying," Listen, maybe
46:40you don't want to break up with this
46:42person. However, it is true that it
46:45would be brighter for you to do it, but
46:46nonetheless, it’s your free will, and
46:48in the end, it’s you who chooses. "
46:51And actually, while I'm drawing the
46:53cards, I also ask the person, how do
46:54you feel, how is it inside you when I
46:56tell you this? It's super important to
46:59see how it resonates, because it’s
47:01the feeling that will ultimately
47:02provide the key. So if the person tells
47:05me," Oh, well listen, I feel super at
47:06peace. Oh, it feels so good that you're
47:08telling me this, it reassures me.
47:10Alright, well, okay, that means that if
47:12me telling you this reassures you, then
47:14that's really the direction you can
47:16head in, or at least the one you'll be
47:18most inclined to take. If, on the other
47:20hand, the person says, "Yeah, it's true
47:22that it's a little bit uncomfortable, I
47:24wasn't really expecting that, but well,
47:26I accept it and I know it's for the
47:27best." Well, there you go, and if they
47:28say, "No, honestly, I really don't want
47:30that to happen," well, okay, how can we
47:31make sure that doesn't happen? That's
47:33pretty much the idea. So,
47:36we're talking about the individual
47:38level here, but can this exercise also
47:40be done at a collective level? Have you
47:42ever picked up information at a
47:44collective level? How did you
47:47experience that? What did you think of
47:48it? What did you pick up? If you picked
47:50up on things, you want to learn more.
47:52Yeah. Um, so collectively, in small
47:54groups, I also provide healing sessions
47:57for families. Um, so family, friends,
47:59but yeah, I have a lot of families who
48:01come to see me, parents, children, the
48:03dog, the cat. So, we encompass
48:05everyone's energy, and there, indeed,
48:07we pick up information for the whole
48:09family.
48:10Um, so information, or rather the
48:12collective, very collective.
48:13And the big collective, the larger
48:15collective.
48:17I mean, yeah, humanity in the broader
48:18sense. Okay. Um, I do a newsletter
48:21every month to provide guidance for the
48:23month. So there, I pick up on energies,
48:26let's say, that can be useful for
48:27people. So, here's where we're heading,
48:30here's what we can do, what might be
48:31important for everyone. Um, so that's
48:33really the monthly guidance side of
48:35things. But sometimes I pick up on
48:37things that I won't necessarily pass on
48:39. Um, for example, the fire incidents
48:41we had in July, since the start of the
48:43week, I felt that a major unforeseen
48:45event was coming, and I didn't know
48:47what it was. And at the same time, I
48:49didn't know if it was negative or
48:51positive, just a big surprise coming.
48:53And well, there you go, figure that one
48:54out. So I thought to myself, "Well, I
48:56don't know, I'll tell my partner." I
48:58said, "Listen, there's a big surprise
49:00coming, we'll see." He tells me, yeah,
49:02yeah, we'll see. And indeed, the fires
49:04started on Wednesday, Thursday they
49:06grew, and by Friday, we were evacuated.
49:09So, because I'm near the Arcachon basin
49:11, we experienced things firsthand, and
49:13well, there it is. So that was for the
49:15collective, but I didn't necessarily
49:17share it because I didn't know what to
49:18do with that info. Actually, if I have
49:20information that's a bit vague, where I
49:22don't really
49:24understand the ins and outs myself,
49:25I'll keep it to myself or share it with
49:27my close ones, let's say, my small
49:29inner circle. But if, on the other hand
49:34, I feel these are energies that I can
49:36grasp, or at least put into words and
49:38see where things are headed, then I'll
49:40share it. So, either in a video on my
49:43Instagram or YouTube, or in the form of
49:47guidance in my monthly newsletters.
49:50A quick parenthesis before we continue:
49:51I've been subscribed to GAA for two
49:53years now. YouTube is great, it's my
49:55go-to platform, but we often end up
49:56watching hours and hours of interviews
49:58to find the answer we're looking for.
50:00GAA, unlike YouTube, is organized into
50:02series and episodes that work as a
50:04coherent whole, which lets you get
50:05straight to the point and save a lot of
50:07time. I'm actually showing you on
50:09screen the series that had the biggest
50:10impact on my own journey and that
50:12notably inspired this podcast. I'm
50:14super happy; I sent them a little email
50:15, and they agreed to become a partner
50:17of the channel. So, if you're curious,
50:18you have one week to discover GAA for
50:20free via the link in the description.
50:22You can always watch a season on the
50:23topic that resonates most with you and
50:25then cancel. To be honest, that's what
50:27I did. Then I ended up resubscribing.
50:28But anyway, in any case, I recommend
50:30you go check it out, take a look. It's
50:31really extremely interesting. Alright,
50:33let's get back to it. Have you received
50:35any insights on a potentially longer
50:37horizon, say 2, 3, 5, or 10 years out?
50:42I think that, well...I, I saw an old
50:44colleague who is a bit older, not long
50:46ago, and I had this discussion where I
50:48was telling him, I said: "It's strange,
50:51I am unable to project myself five
50:53years ahead and tell you what the world
50:55I will be living in will look like."
50:58And I asked him the question: "Is this
51:00something that is actually specific to
51:0330-year-olds, that we can never project
51:05ourselves because human nature makes us
51:07unable to, or is there something
51:09particular about our times that makes
51:11it even more complicated than before to
51:14look ahead?" And he told me, and I
51:16found it quite accurate, he was 45, so
51:1820 years younger than me, uh, older
51:20than me. Older. Yeah, I have to say
51:22that otherwise you'd...
51:24He says: "It's specific today, because
51:25in fact there are a whole bunch of
51:27trends that are trending towards the
51:29exponential, and, in fact, each of the
51:30trends independently will mean that,
51:32indeed, there are a lot of variables
51:33and therefore a lot of possible
51:35trajectories, and if you combine them
51:37together, well, there are even more
51:38possible trajectories." And it's true
51:41that there are geopolitical trends,
51:43technological trends, spiritual trends,
51:45information disclosure trends, and so
51:47on. And it's true that when we combine
51:49them together. Well, looking at a 3 to
51:515-year horizon, we don't know at all
51:52what that will yield.
51:54Yeah, that's clear.
51:55Have you had the curiosity to perhaps
51:57go and ask to see in the Akashic
51:59records or something what it might look
52:01like, and how do you make sense of this
52:03information today?
52:05Yeah. Well, what I feel regarding the
52:08future of the world, in any case, is
52:10really what is taking shape today. It
52:13is a world that is going to be quite
52:15divided. Well, it's already very
52:18divided in many fields, politics,
52:20religion, and so on, but here we are
52:22going to see a split in the world, in
52:24any case, in the spiritual realm. Uh,
52:27the fact of being open or not open, uh,
52:29the people who are going to be open, in
52:31any case, who are going to be more
52:33connected to the energies, are going to
52:35experience things much better. Anyway,
52:37that's really what I feel right now. It
52:39belongs to me, it belongs only to me,
52:40once again, since the energies of Gaia,
52:42of the Earth, are emitting vibrations
52:44that are more and more powerful.
52:46Uh, so actually, if we manage to
52:48connect to Gaia, if we manage to
52:50connect to the energies, in fact if we
52:52manage to, well, be in the flow, shall
52:54we say, of our intuition and follow
52:56what motivates us, what drives us, we
52:58will continue, in fact, to evolve and
53:00grow with, well, everything else, all
53:02the energies that surround us. And
53:05conversely, if we block and stay hyper,
53:07well, the terms we use are, I'm very
53:09down to earth, I'm very Cartesian, well
53:11, I am too, fundamentally, and I still
53:14am, I'm still very grounded. Uh, but,
53:17well, people who really stay only in
53:20that, what we call 3D, staying in
53:22matter, in the ego only, those people
53:24will experience things and planetary
53:27evolutions much less well, since the
53:29energies, they will be too strong for
53:31them. In any case, we see it today. I
53:34think you too, maybe you can see it in
53:36your, in your circle. People who are
53:38very, very closed off to all that, in
53:40general, they're not doing very well
53:41right now. The energies, they are
53:43intense. Uh, we're in year one and it's
53:45quite a year one, actually. There, I
53:47think this cycle, it will be
53:50I don't really know, but it's like an
53:52energetic wave that would arrive due to
53:55the fact that Gaia, the Earth, is
53:56itself undergoing a change, and that we
53:59can either choose to surf the wave,
54:01that is to say be perhaps sensitive and
54:03in tune with this wave of energy that
54:05is arriving, or else stay in resistance
54:07, try to remain firm in front of the
54:09wave that is coming at us and, as a
54:11result, we get shaken up a bit, you
54:13know.
54:14Yeah, that's clear. It's clearly that.
54:16I love your image of the wave and we
54:18surf on it or else we let ourselves be
54:21submerged by the water.
54:24What are the symptoms for you of
54:26precisely this resistance to the
54:27incoming wave? I'm perhaps asking a
54:31leading question, shall we say, but I
54:33sometimes hear about ascension or
54:35ascension symptoms, or symptoms of
54:37ascension. Is that a term that
54:40resonates with you? Uh
54:42yeah,
54:43what do you mean by that? How can
54:45people understand this thing in their
54:47daily lives and perhaps make sense of
54:48certain things they experience in their
54:50daily lives in light of everything we
54:52are talking about? Hm. Uh, yes. So for
54:55me, the symptoms of, uh, ascension—
54:58having experienced them myself, because
55:01when we have these waves of, uh,
55:04planetary ascension, or vibrations
55:06increasing suddenly, we can all feel,
55:09uh, these symptoms: a lot of fatigue
55:12and emotions that are, well, heightened
55:15. So suddenly, we might feel, I don't
55:17know, anger. We don't understand why
55:20we're angry, or feeling frustrated or
55:23sad, or we might be struck by a feeling
55:26of love or gratitude. Basically, these
55:29emotions tend to be a bit extreme,
55:31super, super intense, and very powerful
55:34. One moment we're laughing, the next
55:36we're crying; that’s definitely one
55:38of the symptoms. And as I said at the
55:39beginning, the
55:40What do you think causes these emotions
55:42to surface? If we were to try and make
55:45a link between the Earth increasing its
55:47frequency and us feeling all these
55:48emotions, fatigue, and perhaps a
55:50nervous system under tension, what is
55:51the connection?
55:54Yeah. For me, the connection is that
55:56the body and cells need to shed things
55:58that no longer suit them—things that
56:00are too heavy to continue the evolution
56:02. So, feeling angry might actually be
56:06emotions that were repressed because,
56:08well, we live in a society where it's
56:10not well-regarded to not be positive
56:12and smiling all the time. So, perhaps
56:16there are emotions we've held in just
56:18to be sunny and okay all the time. And
56:21then, at some point, it just explodes.
56:24So, the goal is to welcome them, feel
56:27them, and let them go; it helps the
56:30body and cells lighten up, which is
56:32effective because, physically, cells do
56:35absorb energy. You see, when we do
56:38energy healing, it's the same thing.
56:39People feel tired after the session.
56:42They feel things happening physically
56:43with their digestion or their sleep. So
56:46, it really does come down to working
56:48on the physical and the mental levels.
56:51Well, there are still things happening
56:53beyond pure energy work.
56:55And so, it's kind of the same idea,
56:57really; we're going to get rid of
56:59layers, traumas, heavy emotions, and
57:01well, relationships too. So, there's a
57:05lot of sorting going on with pretty
57:06much everyone right now. At least for
57:09those who are connected, who hear the
57:10call, and who act accordingly. So yeah,
57:13in fact, it's really all that. We're
57:15getting rid of our dead leaves, a bit
57:17like a tree in autumn that needs to
57:19shed its dead leaves to then be able to
57:22welcome new green leaves and new buds.
57:25It's a bit the same image that we could
57:27give here.
57:29Great. How has your practice evolved
57:32over the last few years? You mentioned
57:35that your awakening happened not so
57:37long ago. From everything you're
57:40telling me, I imagine it must have been
57:42quite intense and quite fast. I imagine
57:45you're still on your own journey. If
57:49you had to look back a little bit over
57:51the last three or four years, how
57:53exactly has your practice and your
57:54self-knowledge evolved over these last
57:56few years?
57:58Yeah. Well, my practice, it's true that
58:01at the beginning it was really the side
58:02—well, what we call a healer, you
58:04know, a magnetizer—where it was
58:06really to treat physical ailments, so
58:08everything that was pain, eczema, and
58:10so on. And that very quickly evolved
58:12towards mediumship. So, I started using
58:14mediumship during my sessions. So, the
58:16famous Akashic records, but not just
58:18that. Everything related to readings,
58:20and all the messages we receive from
58:22guides. So, that really came on top of
58:23everything else. I then integrated
58:26geobiology, then training courses, so
58:28yeah, I also provide training myself
58:30now. So, I find that I actually set up
58:34training courses quite quickly,
58:36considering my experience is still
58:38quite young, because yes, I've only
58:40been doing energy work for 3 years, so
58:42it's not like I've been doing it for 15
58:44or 20 years. So, I feel like it all
58:48happened quite fast, but I felt the
58:50call, I felt the need, and so I put
58:52things in place that, today, respond to
58:54this need and to the expectations of
58:56the people who come to see me. And
59:00today, I feel the call toward shamanism
59:02, as I was telling you by message. So,
59:05I completed the training this summer. I
59:09have my drum, which is vegan, made of
59:12vegan fabric. Actually, it's made with
59:16a somewhat special type of worked wood.
59:20It's actually a form of cork. So yeah,
59:23it's pretty awesome and the vibration
59:25is amazing. So, there you go, I need to
59:27practice a little bit. And
59:28what do you think shamanism will bring?
59:30I mean, from what you glimpse today of
59:32what shamanism is,
59:34what will it add to your practice as an
59:36energy healer? Well, for me, shamanism
59:40is already something anchored within me
59:41, since I see people's totem animals.
59:44We haven't finished explaining energy
59:46healing, but if people want to see a
59:48bit more, you can check my website.
59:50Everything is explained on it, but in
59:53any case, we can also look at totem
59:55animals, spirits of the departed, etc.
59:57So it is very much linked to shamanism,
59:59all of that. And, well, for me,
1:00:03shamanism is already part of my
1:00:05practice, but in a rather unofficial
1:00:08way. And the official side will be,
1:00:12well, saying it, putting words to it.
1:00:15And indeed, with the drum, which is the
1:00:17well-known tool of shamans, it will
1:00:20provide percussion and vibrations that
1:00:23will also help harmonize the aura, or
1:00:25at least evoke feelings and sensations
1:00:28that might be different from classic
1:00:30healing for people, and perhaps allow
1:00:33for journeys.
1:00:34maybe a more tangible side, too
1:00:36because it's true that with energy
1:00:38healing, it's
1:00:39I think human beings want to know that
1:00:41something is happening and sometimes
1:00:43need a confirmation loop. Especially
1:00:45for people like me, a bit more
1:00:46Cartesian and rational, I still
1:00:48struggle to tell myself that something
1:00:50is actually going on. Even though I
1:00:52believe on the practitioner's side,
1:00:53there are lots of things happening. On
1:00:55the patient's side, well, it might be a
1:00:56bit calmer. So having feedback that is
1:00:59a bit more direct and physical could be
1:01:00interesting. We have mentioned the
1:01:03Akashic records a few times without
1:01:04ever explaining what they were. And
1:01:07it's a subject I have relatively little
1:01:09delved into or explored on the podcast,
1:01:11because I don't know why. But if I try
1:01:15to understand why I haven't addressed
1:01:17it, it's because the explanation often
1:01:19given sometimes seems a bit naive to me
1:01:21and I have trouble saying to myself: "
1:01:23That's how it happens." So I tell
1:01:25myself there's probably another level
1:01:27of understanding that I haven't managed
1:01:29to grasp yet, but the explanation I
1:01:31often get is that it's like a kind of
1:01:32book in which everything is written and
1:01:34recorded, and you just open the book to
1:01:36find the right info. And so for me,
1:01:39being quite, well, rather materialistic
1:01:41—people are starting to know that—I
1:01:43have trouble telling myself there’s
1:01:45some kind of database somewhere in the
1:01:47universe that you retrieve this
1:01:49information from. Anyway, I struggle to
1:01:51understand how that works. What is your
1:01:53understanding today of what the Akashic
1:01:55records are, and how can you interact
1:01:58with this...thing?
1:02:00This thing, right.
1:02:02I love it.
1:02:03Maybe after your explanation, I'll be
1:02:04able to define it better, but for now,
1:02:06we'll stick with "thing."
1:02:07Well, it's very subtle, you know. It's
1:02:09clear that for me, the Akashic records
1:02:11—well, often the explanation of a big
1:02:13library and so on is given. Actually,
1:02:15for me, it's an energy that we connect
1:02:17to. It's a bit like a cloud that is
1:02:19there, that exists, and so we connect
1:02:21to that energy. And it's true that for
1:02:24me, when I ask for access to a person's
1:02:26soul book, I see the book opening
1:02:28before my eyes. So I visualize—well,
1:02:31I visualize it, I see it in a flash,
1:02:33the book opening. And for me, it really
1:02:37is all the incarnations of the soul,
1:02:39since the soul has incarnated in
1:02:41several forms, in several dimensions,
1:02:44on several planets. Right, there are
1:02:46also quite a few things at the galactic
1:02:48level. Anyway, this subject is infinite
1:02:51, but in any case, you can have access
1:02:53to more or less all the incarnations.
1:02:56Well, once again, when it's useful, the
1:02:58person's present is there. So their
1:03:01current life, the traumas, the
1:03:02transgenerational aspects. So we do
1:03:05have access to quite a lot of info, and
1:03:07indeed, we can also have access to
1:03:09different futures, meaning all the
1:03:11potential futures of the person. Uh,
1:03:15and so yes, I visualize it like a book,
1:03:17but in fact, it's an energy, it's as if
1:03:18we were ultimately connecting directly
1:03:20to the person's soul, you know, and
1:03:22doing a soul reading, you see, it can
1:03:23be somewhat comparable to that.
1:03:27Yeah. So, it's as if you were
1:03:29connecting vibrationally to a field of
1:03:31consciousness, a frequency field, and
1:03:33your own consciousness creates the
1:03:35image of a book to serve as an
1:03:37interface to make sense of the incoming
1:03:39information, but the reality behind it
1:03:41is perhaps more subtle than a book or a
1:03:44library.
1:03:45Yeah, that makes sense. And
1:03:46and that's, and I imagine that's what I
1:03:48sometimes hear when you have mediums
1:03:49who talk about the deceased and how
1:03:50they perceive them. Also an image I
1:03:53have, with which I always have trouble,
1:03:54you know, seeing Grandma arriving as if
1:03:56she were waiting in a waiting room
1:03:58until she is called. And then when she
1:04:00has...and what I understand is that
1:04:02maybe it's of that nature too, where,
1:04:03in fact, it's...we have an energy field
1:04:05, a field of consciousness that takes
1:04:07shape and materializes in a certain way
1:04:09for the duration of the session to make
1:04:11sense to the therapist, but also to the
1:04:13person sitting in front of them.
1:04:15uh so that the information that needs
1:04:18to come out comes out, but the physical
1:04:20reality of what the soul and the person
1:04:23is today is perhaps different from the
1:04:26physical presence we have while alive.
1:04:29Yeah, that's clear. Yes. Yes. Actually,
1:04:30if you will, they always give us images
1:04:32that we can understand. So, indeed, an
1:04:35image of an energy field, I don't know
1:04:37how they could give us that so we would
1:04:40know it is indeed an energy field.
1:04:42Yeah, exactly. The universe's data
1:04:44center. Right, okay. And so it's the
1:04:47same in
1:04:48a book is more beautiful as a symbol
1:04:50than a Facebook data center.
1:04:52That would be less sexy. Uh, there is,
1:04:55there is another, a preliminary
1:04:56explanation I heard, and I would be
1:04:58curious to share it with you and see if
1:04:59it resonates with you. And I don't know
1:05:01to what extent I will manage to express
1:05:03it in words, but it was Daryanka of
1:05:05Bach who channels an entity named
1:05:06Bashar. I don't know if that rings a
1:05:08bell for you or not in the Anglo-Saxon
1:05:09world.
1:05:10uh said, in fact, that everything is
1:05:14Every frequency is in a kind of
1:05:16informational quantum field, that
1:05:18everything is here and now, including
1:05:20all our past lives and all our future
1:05:22lives, which would be parallel and
1:05:24simultaneous lives, uh, and that
1:05:26consequently, it’s a field of
1:05:28consciousness that mediums, channels,
1:05:30and so on connect to through the pineal
1:05:33gland, which serves as an antenna, and
1:05:35so, like a radio antenna that connects
1:05:37to different parts of this
1:05:39informational field. And in fact, since
1:05:42everything is here and now, well, we
1:05:44can connect to any point and retrieve
1:05:46information accordingly, and what
1:05:48guides the information we retrieve is
1:05:50the intention the practitioner puts
1:05:51into it and perhaps some outside help
1:05:53that comes to influence it. Does that
1:05:56image resonate with you at all? Does
1:05:58that resonate with what you experience
1:06:01in your daily life?
1:06:02Yeah, completely. Yes. Yes, it
1:06:04resonates completely. In fact, it's
1:06:06true that our space-time of our
1:06:07reincarnation on Earth is very specific
1:06:09. In fact, it’s linear. Or at least,
1:06:11we see something linear, whereas in the
1:06:13universe, it’s more spiral, and
1:06:15indeed, everything is interconnected.
1:06:18So, uh, the fact of saying that
1:06:20everything happens at the same time is
1:06:22something that resonates with me. It
1:06:24seems accurate to me. It's just that
1:06:26for the human brain, it's very
1:06:27difficult to...
1:06:30I spent months trying to break this
1:06:32down.
1:06:33And I'm still just at the very
1:06:34beginning. It's, it's very fascinating
1:06:36and it's very, I find, hey, it's, uh,
1:06:38in fact, we don't have the words, we
1:06:40don't have the words, we don't have the
1:06:41images to describe all of this. And, I
1:06:44find that, well, it's hard to
1:06:46intellectualize, but indeed, we also
1:06:48have our soul that is incarnated in
1:06:50parallel in other realities, in other
1:06:52dimensions. And, uh, beyond the past,
1:06:55present, and future that are
1:06:57interconnected, there's also that
1:06:58happening. So yeah, there are actually
1:07:02quite a few crazy things happening, and
1:07:03I think that today we don't have the
1:07:05brain required to understand it all.
1:07:08But yes, yes, it's quite, quite
1:07:09incredible. I love it. To go back to
1:07:13you and your personal experience, what
1:07:15was one of the—well, the greatest
1:07:17difficulty in making the change you
1:07:20chose to make, going from a rather
1:07:22classic, traditional HR life in which
1:07:24you were thriving, to this field, this
1:07:27world a bit apart of energy healing,
1:07:29mediumship, etc.? Uh, what was the
1:07:32biggest difficulty you experienced? Hmm
1:07:35, yeah, it's true that I didn't finish
1:07:37answering a question earlier where you
1:07:39asked me, uh, what the biggest changes
1:07:41were for me. So, it actually ties in,
1:07:44uh, ties into your question, uh, now.
1:07:47Uh, for me, what was the most difficult
1:07:49was, uh—Oh, sorry, there’s a call,
1:07:51sorry. That’s why the most difficult
1:07:54thing was to ignore what others thought
1:07:56of me. At least, uh, what I might think
1:08:00or imagine others would think of me. Uh
1:08:05, the fact that I was moving toward
1:08:06this universe that, you know, is
1:08:07considered a bit "out there." You know,
1:08:11people say, "Oh, an energy healer, a
1:08:13medium, well, those are just, you know,
1:08:15crazy people doing that." And it's true
1:08:19that in my social circle, no one—well
1:08:21, except for my great-grandmother and
1:08:23my great-aunt, but, you know, it’s
1:08:25been quite a long time since they
1:08:26practiced. Uh, so, it’s true that it
1:08:29was quite, uh, yeah, for me it was
1:08:32quite uncomfortable, let’s say, to be
1:08:34able to talk about it. Uh, in fact, I
1:08:38was apprehensive, you know, I was
1:08:39apprehensive about the feedback I might
1:08:41get, including at my association,
1:08:42because, well, I knew everyone really
1:08:43well since I was in HR, so obviously I
1:08:45was in contact with everyone. So,
1:08:47saying, "Well, here’s why I’m
1:08:49leaving," and so on, and telling the
1:08:51truth—well, I’m leaving because
1:08:53I’m an energy healer, and I’m
1:08:54actually going to do energy work, and
1:08:56I’m a medium. Uh, you know, there are
1:08:59people who would stare with wide eyes
1:09:00like, "Okay, sure, well, that's great,
1:09:02Debora, go do your thing." Lose her
1:09:04mind.
1:09:05Exactly. Okay. "She's become so weird,"
1:09:07and I had people who said, "But it
1:09:08doesn't surprise me at all that you're
1:09:10doing this, it suits you so well." Uh,
1:09:12in fact, we could tell you had that
1:09:14little something, you know. We didn't
1:09:16really know what it was, but actually,
1:09:18that was it. So it suits you so well,
1:09:19it's so cool. And in my family, I was
1:09:21lucky that my loved ones accepted it
1:09:23very easily, telling me, "It's so great
1:09:26that you're doing this, you're going to
1:09:28bring a lot to people, and it's
1:09:29wonderful." So, ultimately, the
1:09:31apprehensions I had turned out to be.
1:09:34Well, I worried a bit for nothing,
1:09:36let's say. But it's true that it was
1:09:38still quite difficult to be able to
1:09:39talk about it at the start, to own it,
1:09:40to put words to it. Even the word
1:09:42medium, I had trouble saying it at
1:09:44first because it's
1:09:45Yeah. Right, for me it's almost
1:09:47Yeah, that's it. It's fine, we can we
1:09:49can put everything into it. H
1:09:52so
1:09:52that speaks to me quite a bit because I
1:09:54also experienced it when launching this
1:09:56podcast. Though, I am less exposed
1:09:57because I have the luck of being able
1:09:59to be neutral and an observer,
1:10:01gathering testimonials. But I was still
1:10:02very afraid, to the point where before
1:10:04launching the podcast in French, I
1:10:05launched it in English, did 30 episodes
1:10:07, it didn't work at all. We were around
1:10:08150 views per episode, but I was really
1:10:10having a lot of fun. Uh, but it was the
1:10:13springboard that allowed me to feel a
1:10:14bit more comfortable with the idea of
1:10:16addressing this kind of topic in French
1:10:18. Uh, but it's true that it was quite
1:10:21crazy to also see the difference
1:10:23between the anticipation I had of
1:10:24others 'reactions and the actual
1:10:26reaction of people. In fact, when I
1:10:30started talking about it in a fairly
1:10:31relaxed way, well, I realized that most
1:10:33of the time, people found it super cool
1:10:35and super encouraging. And there are
1:10:38few people, well, we don't know, and so
1:10:40much the better, I want to say. Uh,
1:10:42there are few people who told me
1:10:44straight to my face that it was
1:10:45completely nuts. There you go. So, in
1:10:48gen-often what I observe, but it's true
1:10:50that one of the comments that comes
1:10:51back less often as time goes on, I have
1:10:53the impression that it comes back less
1:10:54and less. Uh, but the comment of "Yes,
1:10:57it's just to make money, etc."
1:10:59I can tell you now, there are plenty of
1:11:01much simpler ways to make money than
1:11:02being a medium and energy healer.
1:11:04That's
1:11:04clear. And and it's complicated,
1:11:06especially when you have a traditional
1:11:08life, to make the change and say, "Okay
1:11:09, I'm going to own this thing.""
1:11:11Honestly, when I see the burden and the
1:11:13difficulty that it is, I tell myself
1:11:14that often it's people who just don't
1:11:16have a choice and who think they are
1:11:18doing the right thing, and thank
1:11:19goodness they are there doing those
1:11:21things. But believe me, there are
1:11:23easier ways in life, like you, to make
1:11:25money. I can confirm that. But above
1:11:29all, yes, when you're starting out,
1:11:30that’s, that’s really where the
1:11:32challenge lies, thinking:' Well, I'm
1:11:33leaving security to head toward
1:11:34somewhere where I feel a strong calling
1:11:36and I know I can be useful, but at the
1:11:38same time, well, I don't know how it
1:11:39will turn out in reality. 'So yes, for
1:11:41sure, what you're saying is very
1:11:43accurate. So thank you for your words.
1:11:45I have three small questions that I ask
1:11:47all my guests at the end of an episode.
1:11:49Uh, the first is: what does living a
1:11:51fulfilled life mean to you? Yes. So,
1:11:54for me, a fulfilled life is precisely
1:11:57being able to be in alignment with the
1:11:59heart, the body, the mind, the soul;
1:12:02really being able to say:' OK, I know
1:12:04what I want deep down, I know what my
1:12:07needs are, what my soul and my heart
1:12:09want, and I follow it. 'Actually, to me
1:12:12, that's also a question of freedom. In
1:12:14fact, this notion of feeling free in
1:12:17one's choices, of being able to do what
1:12:19you love, deeply, what makes you
1:12:22vibrate, uh, in the deepest part of
1:12:24your being, and being able to share it
1:12:26with loved ones who are loving, who are
1:12:29kind, and with whom we are really on
1:12:31the same wavelength and truly aligned,
1:12:34and to be able, in fact, to also be
1:12:36free between moments when we are alone.
1:12:40We need to, in fact, we also listen to
1:12:42this need for solitude and recharging,
1:12:44and moments where we listen to the need
1:12:45where we would rather have or want to
1:12:47share moments, experiences. And uh,
1:12:49there you go, for me, a fulfilled life
1:12:51is truly a balanced life where we
1:12:52listen to ourselves, basically.
1:12:54Great. And if you had one piece of
1:12:56advice to give to the 20-year-old
1:12:57Débora, what would it be? Uh, well,
1:12:59very clearly, to not pay attention to
1:13:02what others think. Uh, to be a bit more
1:13:04...Yeah, there's still that notion of
1:13:07freedom that comes back, but really,
1:13:09feeling freer in what she does and in
1:13:11what she wants to dare to be and dare
1:13:14to do. Uh, really, without paying
1:13:17attention to judgment and to what
1:13:19people might say, because, well, at 20,
1:13:21I was a bit more, I held myself back a
1:13:23bit more than now. Today, I dare to do
1:13:26a lot more. So, there you go, I think
1:13:28that would really be the best advice to
1:13:30give.
1:13:31Great. And finally, where can people
1:13:33learn more about you and your work? You
1:13:35mentioned training courses; I'd like
1:13:37you to list all the training you offer
1:13:38for those who are curious, as well as
1:13:40the types of coaching you do and where
1:13:41people can learn more.
1:13:43Okay, great. Yes, so the training,
1:13:45there are basically three types of
1:13:47training. Uh, so, protection, grounding
1:13:50, communication with guides, which is
1:13:51the main training that everyone can
1:13:53take because, well, once again, we all
1:13:55have a soul and guides. Uh, so we can
1:13:57all learn to talk with them and listen
1:14:00to our intuition. Uh, and it really
1:14:02helps us in everyday life. I mean, it's
1:14:03just awesome. Uh, then we have the soul
1:14:06and entity crossing training, which can
1:14:08be used to help souls and entities
1:14:10cross over for ourselves, but also in
1:14:13our home and for others, which then
1:14:15gives us access to the other training,
1:14:17which is energy self-healing. So, I
1:14:20call it" self-healing "because, at
1:14:22first, it's important to be able to
1:14:24practice on yourself, to perform the
1:14:25healing on yourself first, and, how
1:14:27should I say, at least fully integrate
1:14:29the protocols and so on for yourself,
1:14:31and then be able to do it for others if
1:14:33it's truly a soul calling, if it's part
1:14:35of our mission, and if we feel the need
1:14:37and the desire. Uh, and actually, all
1:14:40three of these training courses, if you
1:14:42will, the last one incorporates the
1:14:44previous two. So, often, people take
1:14:47the first one because, well, it's cool
1:14:49to be able to communicate a little with
1:14:51your guides and practice, let's say,
1:14:53with them before moving on to soul and
1:14:55entity crossing, where I obviously
1:14:57deduct the time and money that have
1:14:59already been put into the first
1:15:00training, and so on. And for the third
1:15:03training, it's the same thing. There's
1:15:05half a day left, uh, for the
1:15:07self-healing part. I also do
1:15:09personalized coaching: is it that
1:15:10anyone could do it or, typically, I
1:15:12tell myself:" Well, I don't feel like
1:15:14I'm a medium, I don't feel connected, I
1:15:16mean, sometimes ideas just come to me,
1:15:19"and so on.
1:15:19Yes, I think you are connected, and
1:15:21what's more, you talk to me about soul
1:15:22transition, about being a soul guide. I
1:15:24don't feel like I could transition
1:15:26anything at all.
1:15:27What is your understanding of who this
1:15:29type of training is for? Yeah. So, the
1:15:32first training is clearly for everyone.
1:15:35Anyone can take it to protect
1:15:37themselves, whether it's from people
1:15:39around us or from emotions we might
1:15:41feel. Exactly, for hypersensitive
1:15:44people who are a bit like emotional
1:15:46sponges, or for people who are in an
1:15:48environment that might be more or less
1:15:49toxic or negative, it can also be
1:15:51interesting to protect yourself and
1:15:53communicate with these guides because,
1:15:55well, we can get some interesting info,
1:15:57and they can help us with
1:15:58decision-making. And indeed, soul and
1:16:01entity transition is truly a calling.
1:16:03Ah, you really have to feel the desire
1:16:05to help them transition. In any case,
1:16:07if we have them at home, if we feel
1:16:09their presence and we want to help them
1:16:12, to make them transition, if people at
1:16:15home feel curious, that's already a
1:16:17good sign. Typically, if I don't have
1:16:19the curiosity to dig into this subject
1:16:21more specifically, it's potentially not
1:16:23my life path. But if you at home are
1:16:25saying," Oh, it actually looks
1:16:27intriguing, "it might be a good sign
1:16:29that you have some abilities that are
1:16:31worth...
1:16:32Yes. Developing. Yeah, that's clear.
1:16:34And actually, as we always say, we can
1:16:36all learn to cook, but we won't all
1:16:37open a restaurant. And so with energy
1:16:40work, it's the same; we can all learn
1:16:42to do something with energies. We all
1:16:43have energy within us. We all have
1:16:45magnetism, we all have a channel. So we
1:16:47can all learn things, but we won't
1:16:49necessarily make it a career. We won't
1:16:51necessarily have a life mission in
1:16:52connection with energy work, as a
1:16:54result. Uh, so that's the part
1:16:56regarding guidance. Go ahead.
1:16:58And, uh, yeah, that's great. Uh, we are
1:17:00perfectly aligned, I love it. In terms
1:17:03of support, well, I offer classic
1:17:05energy healing, which is what I started
1:17:07describing earlier, where we cleanse
1:17:10the energy bodies and chakras, and
1:17:12provide treatment for pain and to
1:17:14soothe the nervous system. So, it's a
1:17:17very comprehensive treatment. It lasts
1:17:19for one hour. We also have
1:17:21Is it in-person, remote, or both?
1:17:23I do both. For in-person, my office is
1:17:26in Blagon. Everyone knows Blagon now,
1:17:28which is a village in Lanton, near the
1:17:31Arcachon Basin. And I also do it via
1:17:33video call, like what we’re doing
1:17:34right now. I connect via video, phone,
1:17:36or even using a photo. Using a photo is
1:17:40mostly for small children, the elderly,
1:17:42or people who don't necessarily have a
1:17:45connection. We can do it with a photo,
1:17:47it works exactly the same way. The
1:17:49treatment is the same.
1:17:51It’s something we didn't touch on
1:17:52today, but I’ll dig deeper with other
1:17:54guests because the remote aspect
1:17:56remains a bit mysterious to me and
1:17:58since I’m very grounded in the
1:17:59physical world, I think to myself, this
1:18:01just isn't possible. But it’s true
1:18:03that through my other interviews, I’m
1:18:05realizing that I have to admit that
1:18:06there are things that are doable, and
1:18:08that the subtle worlds function in a
1:18:10way that is very different from this
1:18:12one. So
1:18:13so there you go. But you see, it’s
1:18:15like our conversation right now over
1:18:16video or when we're on the phone,
1:18:17it’s actually the same thing. It's
1:18:19just that we connect to the person's
1:18:21energy, but here we’re connecting to
1:18:22the sound of the voice, and we’re
1:18:24also connecting to our images. So, you
1:18:26see, it's
1:18:27somewhat comparable, I’d say. So,
1:18:29that's it, and just to finish on
1:18:31support, I also offer mediumship
1:18:33sessions. There, we consult with guides
1:18:35and use cards, and I offer combined
1:18:37sessions, energy healing plus
1:18:39mediumship. That’s for people who
1:18:41want both. And that lasts an hour and a
1:18:43half. Great.
1:18:44And then there’s geobiology, well,
1:18:45there are lots of things. You can check
1:18:47my website, it will be easier.
1:18:49Listen, Debra, thank you so much for
1:18:51being with us today and for sharing
1:18:52everything you’ve shared. It was
1:18:53super interesting. We went in all
1:18:55directions, but I think we managed to
1:18:57come full circle. I am very happy.
1:18:59It was freestyle and it was very cool.
1:19:00I really like it when it's intuitive
1:19:02and we just let it take us where it
1:19:03goes. It was really great. So thank you
1:19:06for your time and for your beautiful
1:19:07energy. Thank you Debora. I'm Réy,
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