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Day Trader in the Making: Dux's Traders Podcast Ep 2 — Transcript

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  1. 0:03hello guys welcome to the second episode
  2. 0:05of the trader podcast and today i'm here
  3. 0:08with my assistant jimmy
  4. 0:10uh so in this episode we got many focus
  5. 0:12on about experienced trader versus a
  6. 0:15beginner trader so jimmy has been
  7. 0:17trading about almost a year now he
  8. 0:20started with about 27 000 28 000 in his
  9. 0:23account
  10. 0:24and as you guys know me i've been
  11. 0:26trading for about seven to eight years
  12. 0:28now back in 2016 2017
  13. 0:33i started with 27 000 and then i turned
  14. 0:37it into
  15. 0:39at least
  16. 0:4010 million dollar i can say the exact
  17. 0:42number but definitely over eight figures
  18. 0:45so
  19. 0:46right here
  20. 0:47i want you guys to
  21. 0:49kind of pay attention to
  22. 0:51his mindset and my mindset so you can
  23. 0:55take both lessons whenever you are in
  24. 0:57different trading stages
  25. 0:59so uh from here i will let jimmy take it
  26. 1:02and he will share a little bit about his
  27. 1:04experience uh in the last year of
  28. 1:06trading
  29. 1:08all right
  30. 1:09um
  31. 1:10my name is jimmy um not a very good day
  32. 1:12trader that's my first label
  33. 1:15um as steven mentioned i started trading
  34. 1:18uh last year last january and
  35. 1:22it has been a year now
  36. 1:25at the first couple months it was it was
  37. 1:28really rough and um i was constantly
  38. 1:32facing the possibility that i could blow
  39. 1:34out my accounts
  40. 1:36any day any day i wake up maybe i'm not
  41. 1:38thinking straight in the morning
  42. 1:40or i just woke up late or woke up too
  43. 1:42early trading in the pre-market
  44. 1:44um
  45. 1:45like many other
  46. 1:47day traders who just started their
  47. 1:49trading journey
  48. 1:51i have a lot of misconceptions about
  49. 1:54trading i always thought well i can
  50. 1:57it was it was really messy at the
  51. 1:58beginning because i always think that i
  52. 2:00can go like oh in into a very regular
  53. 2:04trade and then i end up losing big on
  54. 2:06something
  55. 2:07and right now my progress in day trading
  56. 2:09is i'm
  57. 2:11i'm down like 6k yeah from the very
  58. 2:14beginning
  59. 2:15yeah overall down 6k
  60. 2:18first six month i was down about
  61. 2:21uh 8 000
  62. 2:23and um later
  63. 2:25there was a month last october which is
  64. 2:27the really very crazy month um
  65. 2:31i took another approach
  66. 2:33the approach was i would just kind of
  67. 2:35follow you strictly and i'm not gonna
  68. 2:37trade on myself and um that month i was
  69. 2:40up 22k
  70. 2:42and
  71. 2:43later when i when i switched
  72. 2:46to
  73. 2:47kind of a half and half
  74. 2:49whenever you have a trade i'll follow it
  75. 2:51and
  76. 2:52whenever i trade
  77. 2:55i'll just trade on my own
  78. 2:57i still lose money that way even though
  79. 3:00i'm winning on your on the following
  80. 3:01trade
  81. 3:03so here comes one question as you guys
  82. 3:05watching the podcast
  83. 3:07so
  84. 3:08you're a person not really close to
  85. 3:10stephen and you're pretty much beside
  86. 3:12him all the time so why not just follow
  87. 3:14him
  88. 3:15pretty much 100 of the time and you will
  89. 3:18be able to make you know at least six
  90. 3:21figures a year with your account size
  91. 3:25yeah uh that's a very
  92. 3:27viable question because i was because in
  93. 3:30my mind after so many trades that i
  94. 3:32might that pull off on my own i just
  95. 3:35start to ask myself okay i think the
  96. 3:37most efficient way to trade to treat
  97. 3:40this stock market
  98. 3:41is actually to follow every single one
  99. 3:43of your trade and not doing it on my own
  100. 3:45because that's see this is another
  101. 3:47question that other people will be
  102. 3:48curious about is
  103. 3:50that
  104. 3:51well they before they go into day
  105. 3:54trading they will look at the statistics
  106. 3:5694 people loses money in the stock
  107. 3:59market and i think i told you guys in
  108. 4:01the last podcast only maybe five
  109. 4:05people can make over five million
  110. 4:06dollars per year in the entire i would
  111. 4:09say brokerage which has about 25 000
  112. 4:11people and three of the three out of
  113. 4:14those five people keeps rotating out
  114. 4:16because they blow up in uh in
  115. 4:19uh maybe
  116. 4:21some takers like dwc
  117. 4:24so once they know the statistics right
  118. 4:26and they see somebody like me and you're
  119. 4:30already close to me so
  120. 4:32you don't even have to go through making
  121. 4:34so many trades by yourself
  122. 4:36other people just be looking at me says
  123. 4:39okay i'm just gonna follow stephen from
  124. 4:41the beginning i'm not even gonna trade
  125. 4:42by myself
  126. 4:44so what's your take
  127. 4:45um
  128. 4:46my take on that is uh i actually i just
  129. 4:49had an idea popped up towards that topic
  130. 4:52because my take on that is if i see if i
  131. 4:55do that
  132. 4:57i know i can be profitable because the
  133. 4:59statistic
  134. 5:00statistics tells me so
  135. 5:02um but if i do that i'm worried i'm
  136. 5:06worrying about like someday i may not be
  137. 5:08able to follow your trade and then this
  138. 5:10may not be
  139. 5:12a very consistent
  140. 5:14path for me to take on but then i was
  141. 5:16like
  142. 5:18if i trade on my own
  143. 5:20that's not consistent at all either so
  144. 5:23if i just maybe if maybe the following
  145. 5:26part is actually the learning part that
  146. 5:28i should be taking on
  147. 5:30instead of like just trading on my own
  148. 5:34so one of the things
  149. 5:36outsides a more logical way
  150. 5:39is
  151. 5:40if jimmy tends to follow me from the
  152. 5:42very beginning and he turns 27 000 into
  153. 5:46six figure plus
  154. 5:48um
  155. 5:48and
  156. 5:49his main focus is to be consistent
  157. 5:52profitable without me
  158. 5:54being present
  159. 5:56so
  160. 5:58that takes
  161. 5:59trades by himself and takes practices as
  162. 6:01well
  163. 6:02so if i'm not there and he has a six
  164. 6:05figure account once he makes a mistake
  165. 6:09that will be a much severe mistake
  166. 6:11uh
  167. 6:12you know on a six-figure account instead
  168. 6:15of you know 27 000 account so in
  169. 6:19if you if i present that way uh it's
  170. 6:22much better to make mistakes when you
  171. 6:24have a smaller account then you have a
  172. 6:26bigger account
  173. 6:28that's my take yeah
  174. 6:29i agree
  175. 6:30um and i just have something in my head
  176. 6:33um and and i think the following trade
  177. 6:36part
  178. 6:38is not only about
  179. 6:40when we have a trade it's also about
  180. 6:44how much position size you should be
  181. 6:46putting in after you took a loss after
  182. 6:48your account gets decreased to a point
  183. 6:50and what's the new ratio of you putting
  184. 6:53in to that account i think um
  185. 6:56i think when i'm not following you
  186. 6:59when i'm not following your trade what i
  187. 7:01do is okay on the first day say i lose
  188. 7:04about
  189. 7:055k on a on a one fifth or one third
  190. 7:09position size and
  191. 7:11the second day i would think about
  192. 7:13making it back or
  193. 7:14or third day whenever there's a
  194. 7:16opportunity and i'll go in the same size
  195. 7:19and i'll lose it again and again and
  196. 7:21again until
  197. 7:23my count is non-existent and um
  198. 7:27but actually the the right way to treat
  199. 7:29that situation from your perspective if
  200. 7:32you are to treat my account instead of
  201. 7:35me
  202. 7:35i think it will turn out really
  203. 7:37differently ever since the first losing
  204. 7:39trade
  205. 7:41so there is
  206. 7:46more like a derivative about whenever
  207. 7:49you're on a losing streak
  208. 7:51that every loss you take and and if it
  209. 7:54turns out become a consistent loss
  210. 7:58then you have to slowly reduce your size
  211. 8:01and for
  212. 8:02uh
  213. 8:03somebody that followed me 100 of the
  214. 8:05time and they are looking at me trading
  215. 8:07different takers that's fine and you can
  216. 8:09look at my entries and exit but the one
  217. 8:12thing
  218. 8:13that i can't
  219. 8:15pay attention to is my size
  220. 8:17because i have my own idea about my
  221. 8:20sizing into different wedding percentage
  222. 8:22pattern
  223. 8:22some tickers are sizing in two million
  224. 8:25dollars some ticker assistant only three
  225. 8:27hundred thousand and for somebody as a
  226. 8:30beginner like him all those numbers are
  227. 8:32so big that he
  228. 8:34barely pays attention to
  229. 8:36so
  230. 8:38if he cannot control
  231. 8:40the size in different pattern which
  232. 8:43is a big problem so if i throw a 300 000
  233. 8:46dollar into a ticker that's not not very
  234. 8:48profitable only maybe 65 percent winning
  235. 8:52percentage if i take a loss
  236. 8:55it will be relatively small and if i
  237. 8:58throw a two million dollar i'm gonna
  238. 9:00take her that
  239. 9:01has eighty percent ninety percent
  240. 9:02winning percentage if i make a win
  241. 9:04that'll be huge the the weighing will
  242. 9:07overwhelm the losses easily
  243. 9:09but for somebody like him he doesn't
  244. 9:11know the size and difference he doesn't
  245. 9:13know the statistics behind different
  246. 9:14patterns and winning percentages he will
  247. 9:16throw all of the size with uh premium he
  248. 9:21will throw i would say the same
  249. 9:23size on all different tickers
  250. 9:25so
  251. 9:26that will become a whole different story
  252. 9:28because you don't really know how to
  253. 9:30sizing heavy into different winning
  254. 9:31percentage pattern and that
  255. 9:34will
  256. 9:36basically
  257. 9:38come out with a complete outcome
  258. 9:40between me and him
  259. 9:42completely different yeah
  260. 9:43um yeah i noticed that when i was going
  261. 9:46through your trades from a trade zero
  262. 9:48last year um there's
  263. 9:52uh it's the share sizes they uh vary a
  264. 9:55lot
  265. 9:56and um
  266. 9:57and it seems like you control it very
  267. 10:00well because
  268. 10:02out of like because i do it like in a
  269. 10:05month-to-month increment um say last
  270. 10:08october the trade you pull off last
  271. 10:10october you only have two losing trade
  272. 10:12and uh
  273. 10:14and then out of let's say i think it was
  274. 10:16like 12 trades
  275. 10:18on trade zero and then you only have two
  276. 10:20losing trade one is like
  277. 10:22700 loss
  278. 10:23and uh one is like 200k loss or 100k
  279. 10:27something but the winning trades are on
  280. 10:30average the biggest one goes up to 900k
  281. 10:33that's just the trader account um and
  282. 10:36then average is around 500 to 300k
  283. 10:40per trade and um
  284. 10:42that um that that part to me is like i'm
  285. 10:46i'm like i'm super amazed because you
  286. 10:49control your losses
  287. 10:51here like that portion 100k or 200k
  288. 10:54that's your max loss there that you took
  289. 10:56and then the average win that you took
  290. 10:59is
  291. 11:01i would say even 100k more than
  292. 11:04when
  293. 11:05than your max loss
  294. 11:07um
  295. 11:08and when i when i look at the position
  296. 11:10size it's really
  297. 11:12yeah it is really hard for me to follow
  298. 11:15since the
  299. 11:16since the share size is just
  300. 11:18just really big
  301. 11:20and um i wonder how
  302. 11:24it i wonder if the best way for me to
  303. 11:26start practicing this is to uh is is
  304. 11:30from what i was what i'm doing right now
  305. 11:31which is the uh i will break down my
  306. 11:33position size to
  307. 11:35the small um let's say 60 percent
  308. 11:38winning rate to 75 winning rate i'll put
  309. 11:41down one-fifth of my account and um 80
  310. 11:45to 80 anywhere about 80 winning rates i
  311. 11:48would go about one-third
  312. 11:51of my uh of my total equity um do you
  313. 11:54think i should break it down even more
  314. 11:57than the two position signs that's
  315. 11:58something um
  316. 12:01see here is the most difficult part for
  317. 12:04sizing in
  318. 12:05is there's a limitation about how much
  319. 12:08you can size in
  320. 12:11with
  321. 12:12different account size
  322. 12:14so let's say you only have a few
  323. 12:15thousand dollar account you can size in
  324. 12:17with percentages one fifth one third if
  325. 12:20you have a fifty thousand dollar account
  326. 12:22you can still setting one fifth one
  327. 12:23third and if you have a 500 000 account
  328. 12:26you have to really pay attention to the
  329. 12:28volume and there's only specific amount
  330. 12:29of money you can size in before you
  331. 12:31break the pattern
  332. 12:33so
  333. 12:34uh that's number one you have to go
  334. 12:37figure that one out
  335. 12:39as you become more experienced trader
  336. 12:42the second part
  337. 12:43is
  338. 12:45being flexible
  339. 12:46with your account
  340. 12:48going back and forth so with day trading
  341. 12:51right you you experience uh
  342. 12:54exponential growth within a small amount
  343. 12:57of time
  344. 12:58and one day your account is 27 000 one
  345. 13:00day your account is 54 000
  346. 13:03and the transition from
  347. 13:0554
  348. 13:0627 to 54
  349. 13:09is you are not very experienced with the
  350. 13:12losses you are not very experienced if
  351. 13:14you're sizing one third that's gonna
  352. 13:17your max loss will be this much when you
  353. 13:20see the loss you see oh this exceeded my
  354. 13:23normal uh losses on a 27
  355. 13:26south 27 thousand dollar account
  356. 13:30and you instantly freak out and cut your
  357. 13:32losses but you are not supposed to cut
  358. 13:33your losses so
  359. 13:35those mental transitions is also very
  360. 13:38important
  361. 13:40for your trading career so
  362. 13:43being adaptive
  363. 13:44um
  364. 13:46your account sizes and being adaptive on
  365. 13:49size limitations once you become more
  366. 13:52experienced
  367. 13:53those two i think
  368. 13:56uh are the most also difficult part for
  369. 13:59you to
  370. 14:00experience i can't really teach people
  371. 14:02that uh because
  372. 14:05every day your account just going back
  373. 14:06and forth back and forth i think at one
  374. 14:09point of my time my account was going
  375. 14:11from
  376. 14:131.5 million
  377. 14:15to lower 700k it was just going back and
  378. 14:18forth like that
  379. 14:19so
  380. 14:20i couldn't control my size when i was at
  381. 14:221.5 000 in
  382. 14:25500k it's easy
  383. 14:27but when i have a 700k account sizing
  384. 14:29500k that's almost all it yeah
  385. 14:33so
  386. 14:35to manage that and
  387. 14:38whenever you are making a trading plan
  388. 14:41it is fine to make a trading plan
  389. 14:43whenever
  390. 14:44uh it's in the pre-market but pretty
  391. 14:47much all of the entry is like instant so
  392. 14:51you have to make your decisions within
  393. 14:5230 seconds right in those 30 seconds you
  394. 14:56got to think about
  395. 14:58all those risk management
  396. 15:01make sure you're setting the right size
  397. 15:03and make sure you have a correct risk
  398. 15:05and make sure you have the correct
  399. 15:07max loss
  400. 15:08and be able to cut
  401. 15:10once the stock reaches a certain point
  402. 15:12so all of that information is to go
  403. 15:14through your head
  404. 15:15within 30 seconds so that's the hard
  405. 15:18part it's very
  406. 15:20it's very very easy to screw up on you
  407. 15:23know
  408. 15:24thinking through those 30 seconds
  409. 15:26i've done it many times
  410. 15:28sometimes i press the extra zero
  411. 15:30sometimes i
  412. 15:31didn't know my loss could get to this
  413. 15:33big
  414. 15:34and
  415. 15:36that specific part for
  416. 15:38you is
  417. 15:40i would say to be
  418. 15:42going from you know
  419. 15:45thinking fast and almost feel like it's
  420. 15:47all
  421. 15:48i'll say
  422. 15:49it becomes an autopilot after you do
  423. 15:51like 100 times but for the first
  424. 15:5450 times it's very difficult
  425. 15:57so to control that
  426. 15:59is also very difficult you're going to
  427. 16:00go through some crazy losses at the
  428. 16:02beginning which i did at the beginning
  429. 16:05and you learn from that i think the most
  430. 16:07important lesson no matter how i tell
  431. 16:09people
  432. 16:10uh what they should do what they should
  433. 16:12not do and those type of
  434. 16:14thinking process
  435. 16:15produces mistakes and you gotta
  436. 16:17experience experience those mistakes
  437. 16:19before you become a better trader
  438. 16:22so
  439. 16:23knowing
  440. 16:24um knowing what's it like when you mess
  441. 16:27up
  442. 16:28knowing what's it like when you mess up
  443. 16:30yeah
  444. 16:30and
  445. 16:31being confident that okay if i
  446. 16:34if i mess up this is what could
  447. 16:35potentially happen even though i could
  448. 16:37avoid it i still don't
  449. 16:40know what it's like in the back of my
  450. 16:41head and moving forward
  451. 16:44um
  452. 16:45yeah that i'm still yeah i'm still
  453. 16:47digesting on the part how do you of like
  454. 16:50how fast you
  455. 16:52um calculate the position size and uh
  456. 16:55and the potential risk of that you're
  457. 16:57taking for
  458. 16:58for
  459. 16:59for each and different position like
  460. 17:02for each and different pattern which you
  461. 17:04size them differently
  462. 17:08so what you should do is
  463. 17:11you should write like
  464. 17:13uh you should treat
  465. 17:14uh different patterns like a branch so
  466. 17:18you you look at ticker okay this is fits
  467. 17:21certain criteria maybe it's a bouncer
  468. 17:22gap up for overseeing gap down or first
  469. 17:25right day or whatever it fits a certain
  470. 17:27criteria then you branch out from this
  471. 17:29pattern and you see okay
  472. 17:33um
  473. 17:34how much reward i have how much risk do
  474. 17:36i have
  475. 17:37uh is it really worth it to go in today
  476. 17:41and is it very is it overextended so
  477. 17:44the stock itself over extension volume
  478. 17:48size
  479. 17:50flow market cap all those things matters
  480. 17:54and that just takes a massive amount of
  481. 17:56experience because different ticker has
  482. 17:58its own volume market cap flow
  483. 18:02and
  484. 18:04to control size
  485. 18:06on
  486. 18:07individual ticker that's completely
  487. 18:08different than all the samples that you
  488. 18:10have
  489. 18:11is difficult
  490. 18:13so
  491. 18:15when you see me making a trade like dwc
  492. 18:18and amcd and gme
  493. 18:20i've never seen those before
  494. 18:22yeah how do you
  495. 18:23how did you figure out
  496. 18:25a new position size for those
  497. 18:29so
  498. 18:30that comes down to
  499. 18:34for amc
  500. 18:36and gme
  501. 18:38gme is reasonable because
  502. 18:42once you dropped from 500 to 100 and
  503. 18:45bounced back to 400
  504. 18:47that's a massive bouncing percentages
  505. 18:49and you have a solid risk for the
  506. 18:51shorting too that's the same pattern as
  507. 18:53cei so that's easy now for amc when it
  508. 18:56dropped like that
  509. 18:58um
  510. 19:00for amc that was difficult mc i
  511. 19:04i don't think i did very very well
  512. 19:06compared to me
  513. 19:08yeah mc was uh
  514. 19:11it dropped in the pre-market
  515. 19:13and i did not expecting expected dmc
  516. 19:16bouncing all the way back
  517. 19:19and almost
  518. 19:20to the exact same high as
  519. 19:24i think it was the 75
  520. 19:26dollar area
  521. 19:27now to control size on that one
  522. 19:29is almost like trading
  523. 19:34a billion dollar cap
  524. 19:35so you know that one billion most of the
  525. 19:37billion dollar cap has its fundamentals
  526. 19:39so massive extensions or massive panic
  527. 19:43will have a reverse
  528. 19:45um
  529. 19:46typically when it drops 75 reverses
  530. 19:49about 50 from the bottom
  531. 19:51so
  532. 19:53um
  533. 19:56now for amc and g missions are so
  534. 19:58extended i was unsure they would
  535. 20:00actually have a bouncing
  536. 20:02yeah
  537. 20:03so
  538. 20:04for mc i did not catch the bounce for
  539. 20:07jme uh i
  540. 20:10packed size on it because you actually
  541. 20:12have i have identified risk
  542. 20:14uh for dwc the first size was small but
  543. 20:18the rest of the size once a once pattern
  544. 20:20was formed already i will be able to
  545. 20:22identify
  546. 20:24uh
  547. 20:25the pattern that's going to play it out
  548. 20:26so that's why it says the heavy so that
  549. 20:29178
  550. 20:31165 entry at the very top
  551. 20:34that was like a more oh my god feeling
  552. 20:37yeah yeah
  553. 20:38see that that was the upgrade c
  554. 20:41and amc that was
  555. 20:44a solid trade
  556. 20:47the gmail solution
  557. 20:51llc it comes with gut feeling once it
  558. 20:54drops the certain amount of percentages
  559. 20:56and i can confirm panic is coming that's
  560. 20:58where it says then
  561. 21:01yeah so you can see
  562. 21:03so going back to the
  563. 21:05um the drop um
  564. 21:08the um the sizing in
  565. 21:10after you are confirmed it's a is a drop
  566. 21:13because it sounds like you broke your
  567. 21:15position size down by first very little
  568. 21:18and then large portion once
  569. 21:20once you you're confirmed on a certain
  570. 21:23idea
  571. 21:24um how do you break that down
  572. 21:27how do you break it down
  573. 21:30to give it a percentage
  574. 21:32what would be
  575. 21:34one-fifth one-third of the total
  576. 21:36position for your first entry
  577. 21:39uh normally i don't really break it down
  578. 21:41that much
  579. 21:43i will size the name based on how i want
  580. 21:45to look at my average where
  581. 21:47what average am i most comfortable
  582. 21:50at when the stock is at certain point
  583. 21:53so let's say
  584. 21:54for amc
  585. 21:56that top is 75 my uh
  586. 22:00my average better be at
  587. 22:0265 or something
  588. 22:04right so i will size in a little bit
  589. 22:07amount
  590. 22:08more of like this might be the potential
  591. 22:10momentum shift because it's up so much
  592. 22:14once it confirmed drops it drops about
  593. 22:1761.62 right i sat down somewhere between
  594. 22:2070
  595. 22:21and i
  596. 22:22average those positions my
  597. 22:25together my average will be around 67.68
  598. 22:28so i'm sitting there
  599. 22:3167.68
  600. 22:32i'm very comfortable with the stock is
  601. 22:35already at 61 and
  602. 22:37closing to the 50s and when it drops all
  603. 22:40the way down to 30s i feel much more
  604. 22:43comfortable
  605. 22:44so
  606. 22:45you have to kind of see that
  607. 22:47the stock current price with your
  608. 22:49current average if it's too
  609. 22:52if the gap is too small that's where it
  610. 22:54makes you nervous
  611. 22:55uh so you kind of define that comfort
  612. 22:58zone is you want a sizing in
  613. 23:00a small amount to drag your average up
  614. 23:03to half the middle point that to compare
  615. 23:05with the current price
  616. 23:07that
  617. 23:08gap
  618. 23:09is your edge the bigger the gap is
  619. 23:12the more likely you're going to profit
  620. 23:13especially on a
  621. 23:17stock is
  622. 23:19down you know shifting momentums
  623. 23:27yeah um
  624. 23:28that's uh that's very interesting to me
  625. 23:30because
  626. 23:30um
  627. 23:31for lately what i'm trying to do is uh
  628. 23:33just one entry and one exit
  629. 23:38i i've always have this question on
  630. 23:41if you break your position size down by
  631. 23:43okay the first it would be like a very
  632. 23:45high entry
  633. 23:46and
  634. 23:47and then the second one's a confirmation
  635. 23:49about something
  636. 23:51uh once the once you confirm that this
  637. 23:53stuck is cracking and then you can still
  638. 23:55size in with the previous entry to drag
  639. 23:59your average up
  640. 24:01um
  641. 24:04what
  642. 24:05like what kind of
  643. 24:07you said the the larger the gap
  644. 24:10um from your initial entry and then the
  645. 24:12the second confirmation
  646. 24:15it's
  647. 24:16when it gets bigger how is your edge
  648. 24:18increasing
  649. 24:20downshift momentum is when the stock
  650. 24:22being so overextended going up a
  651. 24:23thousand percent and it's when it's on a
  652. 24:25confirmed down shifting per momentum it
  653. 24:27will drop at least 50 from the
  654. 24:30top so from that point is how close are
  655. 24:34you from the top
  656. 24:36i'll beat another cab so
  657. 24:38that's that's the trick now for
  658. 24:41all the momentum shift
  659. 24:44tickers like
  660. 24:45amc and gme
  661. 24:47uh kodk
  662. 24:49all the crazy tickers that happened this
  663. 24:50year
  664. 24:52those you need
  665. 24:54uh adding
  666. 24:55and you need
  667. 24:56multiple entries but for regular
  668. 24:58patterns like gap up shoulder bounce
  669. 25:01short you don't really need
  670. 25:02multiple entries one introvert exit and
  671. 25:05a lot of people cannot control
  672. 25:07their entry
  673. 25:09based on multiple entries i'm gonna take
  674. 25:11her
  675. 25:12especially on multi-year honor going
  676. 25:14really crazy
  677. 25:16that's where they blow up their account
  678. 25:19so that's why i recommend most beginners
  679. 25:22don't do
  680. 25:25try to guess where the momentum is going
  681. 25:27to shift
  682. 25:29because if you cannot control your
  683. 25:31sizing
  684. 25:32very very easy to lose 20 30 percent in
  685. 25:35one candle so
  686. 25:37that's my take on
  687. 25:40the momentum shift
  688. 25:41and regular patterns
  689. 25:43okay so regular pattern it will be one
  690. 25:46entry one exit get it cleared
  691. 25:48and uh for momentum shifts you how you
  692. 25:51you have to size in differently at
  693. 25:54different points
  694. 25:56would you go about
  695. 25:58one half at the first entry and one half
  696. 26:00of the second entry
  697. 26:02half and one and see that's
  698. 26:04not very ideal because one
  699. 26:07whenever you decide to do one half
  700. 26:09you're pretty much
  701. 26:11you're pretty sure that the stock is
  702. 26:13going to go down from there
  703. 26:15so
  704. 26:21personally for me i would drop a little
  705. 26:23bit of size to test
  706. 26:26yeah i would test the stock to see
  707. 26:31my
  708. 26:32the strength of my shares that sounds a
  709. 26:34little bit weird is
  710. 26:36that uh i will go in and use my size
  711. 26:39to
  712. 26:40to
  713. 26:42uh to test the stock so i put in ten
  714. 26:45thousand shares i put in five thousand
  715. 26:47shares to see how far the stock will
  716. 26:48actually drop if it drops significant
  717. 26:51amount that makes first of all if it is
  718. 26:53really on low liquidity
  719. 26:56the stock would pull
  720. 26:58really hard if it pulls really really
  721. 27:00hard that means there's not many
  722. 27:03buyers are in there anymore
  723. 27:05if there's sufficient enough eq
  724. 27:07liquidity and if you drop ten thousand
  725. 27:09shares on it depends on the stock price
  726. 27:12for sure if you drop ten thousand shares
  727. 27:14on it and you
  728. 27:16didn't really move
  729. 27:18or
  730. 27:18in
  731. 27:19it pull down a little bit instantly
  732. 27:21reverse and that's something that shows
  733. 27:22the stock is still a lot of strength
  734. 27:25so
  735. 27:28i'll go in a test about a few times to
  736. 27:30see
  737. 27:33how my size will actually affect on the
  738. 27:35stock
  739. 27:36before i go in in full size so
  740. 27:40for me
  741. 27:41i'm more of looking at the bigger
  742. 27:42picture uh if i can make
  743. 27:45seven hundred thousand nine hundred
  744. 27:46thousand
  745. 27:47or a million
  746. 27:49dollar trade
  747. 27:51gold has decided within ten thousand
  748. 27:53twenty thousand it's
  749. 27:54nothing
  750. 27:57yeah that
  751. 27:58that sounds hard first of all
  752. 28:00but uh the second is how did you start
  753. 28:02practicing like looking at because this
  754. 28:05is really hard to quantify you can't
  755. 28:07really bring up excel sheet and record
  756. 28:09what you do what you're doing when
  757. 28:11you're testing all those shares
  758. 28:13um
  759. 28:14so
  760. 28:15i guess it's all based on your feelings
  761. 28:18and then
  762. 28:19like how basically if i put 50 k shares
  763. 28:22down here and then seeing how much it'll
  764. 28:25drop here see that it's quantifiable
  765. 28:28[Music]
  766. 28:29see
  767. 28:30it's kind of that way in my head yes but
  768. 28:32it's also quantifiable um
  769. 28:34i'm the machine by just a lot it's not
  770. 28:37more difficult
  771. 28:38because
  772. 28:40whenever you are seeing so many examples
  773. 28:42you can see how far stock will actually
  774. 28:44pull based on different flow and market
  775. 28:46cap you see so many of them can you know
  776. 28:48you can see
  777. 28:49what's the percentage you can pull
  778. 28:52but to really actually track that with
  779. 28:54your you know eight nine years
  780. 28:57experience to track every single one of
  781. 28:59that it's
  782. 29:00a little bit difficult
  783. 29:02so i don't think
  784. 29:04anybody has that type of spreadsheets
  785. 29:06that
  786. 29:07a certain amount of size can poster a
  787. 29:09certain percentage
  788. 29:10of the stock and what type of
  789. 29:12percentages is considered to be weird
  790. 29:15was considered to be
  791. 29:17likely reversible based on how much size
  792. 29:20you tested like i don't think anybody
  793. 29:22none of them has maybe it's you know one
  794. 29:25of
  795. 29:26the stop thoughts out there yeah
  796. 29:29i don't i don't even know how how to
  797. 29:31like practice that
  798. 29:33it's like when did you start
  799. 29:35noticing that this could be a method
  800. 29:38to test the liquid at that point started
  801. 29:41with uh i was sizing into a ticker
  802. 29:45i was wondering okay well the stock is
  803. 29:47up about 100 percent
  804. 29:49how much can this adds in
  805. 29:51i was pushing size i was making 100k 80k
  806. 29:53at the beginning i was making 20k then
  807. 29:5580k the 100k on ticker
  808. 29:59and it gets to a point that
  809. 30:01you size in so much
  810. 30:03and it's not worth it no more it's not
  811. 30:06worth it for a stock that's only a
  812. 30:08hundred percent you'll get your limit
  813. 30:10of
  814. 30:12the size is not worth it for the stock
  815. 30:14right now yeah you have to drop size
  816. 30:16because your wrists become too much
  817. 30:18so
  818. 30:20um
  819. 30:23that's number one after that i started
  820. 30:25to notice okay
  821. 30:28how much size can i use to test the
  822. 30:30stock to you to actually
  823. 30:33fill my own size
  824. 30:35into the pool
  825. 30:36before somebody
  826. 30:38uses a large amount of dollar to counter
  827. 30:40me because i showed it too much
  828. 30:43so
  829. 30:44it started from there
  830. 30:46and i'm still earning i don't think i'm
  831. 30:50i am uh
  832. 30:51there yet but
  833. 30:53i have a feeling
  834. 30:54that
  835. 30:56not a feeling but i have some type of
  836. 30:57statistics behind it it just
  837. 31:01it's quantum available but it's very
  838. 31:02difficult
  839. 31:04yeah it's that sounds really tough
  840. 31:07yeah sometimes
  841. 31:08i don't know how to do it
  842. 31:12and i don't know how to start to
  843. 31:13practice that until at first i feel like
  844. 31:16i need to get to a certain point in my
  845. 31:18account size and um
  846. 31:21to actually have an effect
  847. 31:24when like save short 50k shares to um to
  848. 31:27test the liquidity
  849. 31:29um but 50k is like everything to me
  850. 31:32right now
  851. 31:33on and so at this point you have to
  852. 31:36worry about that all you have to focus
  853. 31:37on is
  854. 31:40patterns right injury right exit
  855. 31:43maximum your
  856. 31:45maximum minus your pro your percentage
  857. 31:49on a chart
  858. 31:52at the beginning i was just trying to
  859. 31:54practice okay today i missed about ten
  860. 31:57percent from the entry i should i should
  861. 31:58top take it and i also should bottom
  862. 32:01take that there's a statistic statistics
  863. 32:04for top tick and volume tick
  864. 32:06uh like
  865. 32:08whenever your top tick you will know how
  866. 32:10how far the stock will drop like every
  867. 32:12time i told you that uh it's not exactly
  868. 32:15to drop to here
  869. 32:17if the volume is too um too much
  870. 32:20you know you can cover a little bit
  871. 32:21about there all those cover experience
  872. 32:24or exiting experience come from
  873. 32:27statistics it comes from all those
  874. 32:30experiences
  875. 32:31so
  876. 32:33from from trading once you
  877. 32:35at the beginning
  878. 32:37i'll say at the first two to three years
  879. 32:38if you just practice your entry
  880. 32:41and maximize your profit on the exit you
  881. 32:44should be good to go yeah that's
  882. 32:48once you practice the point
  883. 32:50i would say
  884. 32:52give a zero to 100 if you got to 90 on a
  885. 32:56total score you can make a million
  886. 32:57dollars
  887. 33:00i have been doing none of that
  888. 33:04yeah i need to yeah i need to i actually
  889. 33:06can i find a plan
  890. 33:09i i actually want to write this down
  891. 33:10because
  892. 33:11yeah i haven't been tracking
  893. 33:14um how good my entry and exit is from
  894. 33:16the most ideal point on each dip
  895. 33:19each of the different pattern
  896. 33:21i haven't been doing that at all
  897. 33:25yeah i need to do that right
  898. 33:27yeah
  899. 33:28yeah
  900. 33:29um
  901. 33:30all right which uh brings us to the next
  902. 33:33question
  903. 33:34um
  904. 33:35this is see
  905. 33:37when i'm having an issue in day trading
  906. 33:39it's um it's
  907. 33:41it's pretty easy for me to like to go to
  908. 33:44you and have it fixed i'll go ask you
  909. 33:46questions and then you'll point out what
  910. 33:49am i doing wrong what am i doing right
  911. 33:51um
  912. 33:53but you
  913. 33:55you kind of you started
  914. 33:57trading on your own and then you
  915. 34:00pretty much it's a self-learned process
  916. 34:01for you and i wonder
  917. 34:04it's easy for me to keep myself humble
  918. 34:06because i can go to you i can i have
  919. 34:07some place to look at but how do you
  920. 34:09keep yourself like in check and humbled
  921. 34:12and in whatever
  922. 34:14in whichever way you would define a good
  923. 34:16trader
  924. 34:17how do you keep yourself in check
  925. 34:19because see that's the hard part i used
  926. 34:21to be
  927. 34:23uh
  928. 34:26i used to trying to figure stuff by
  929. 34:28myself now looking at all different
  930. 34:30people's stuff
  931. 34:33all the bigger traders or bigger name
  932. 34:35traders or major creators out there
  933. 34:39uh i will test their strategies and
  934. 34:41we'll see if they're working now
  935. 34:47but from
  936. 34:48self-improving part it is so much more
  937. 34:51difficult i have to do so many trades
  938. 34:54and simulations and to see where could i
  939. 34:57fit in and how to dodge losses and how
  940. 35:00to have the correct mindset
  941. 35:02every time when i take a loss now that's
  942. 35:04the hardest part because
  943. 35:07if you're alone you're unsure of
  944. 35:10what you did wrong what you did right
  945. 35:12um
  946. 35:13until you trade for maybe 10 months a
  947. 35:16year or 10 months
  948. 35:18and two a year
  949. 35:19and you look at your entire trading
  950. 35:26entire
  951. 35:28you look at all your trades from your
  952. 35:30trading now you look at all your trades
  953. 35:31from account statements and you'll be
  954. 35:34able to figure out okay this is the
  955. 35:36biggest loss i have i probably should
  956. 35:38get rid of that one and i should also
  957. 35:40look at this sticker
  958. 35:41maybe this one is a little bit extra
  959. 35:45this is from over trading or this is
  960. 35:46from
  961. 35:47revenge trading you take those out and
  962. 35:50you will be able to recognize which ones
  963. 35:52are available which one's not avoidable
  964. 35:54you can
  965. 35:56you know simulate another sheets and you
  966. 35:58can see oh this is you know have much
  967. 36:00more better result than i have let's do
  968. 36:02that
  969. 36:03next time and it just slowly improves
  970. 36:06every single year
  971. 36:08yeah yeah so that's how yourself
  972. 36:11improve
  973. 36:12so you pull out your account statements
  974. 36:15and then you find out the the consistent
  975. 36:18trade and then you put you actually
  976. 36:20simulate them and you put those trades
  977. 36:22into into a new spreadsheet and then
  978. 36:24just the new spreadsheet has nothing but
  979. 36:27the ideal trade that you bought ideal
  980. 36:28trader you pull up and there's the
  981. 36:30losses that you think it's unavoidable
  982. 36:32okay then you look at your profits and
  983. 36:34they locate profits right now and you
  984. 36:36can see oh i [ __ ]
  985. 36:38up so you actually
  986. 36:40build this ideal in your in your head
  987. 36:43and then you go for it and then until
  988. 36:45you get there you figure out
  989. 36:47another idea that you can go for again
  990. 36:50and that's the way you
  991. 36:52yeah
  992. 36:53that sounds tough
  993. 36:58i still want to write it down
  994. 37:00alright guys that's enough trading in
  995. 37:03topics for today so if you have any
  996. 37:05questions
  997. 37:06or any comments about jimmy and
  998. 37:09questions
  999. 37:10to ask me leave a comment below and
  1000. 37:13we'll be happy to answer and hopefully
  1001. 37:16in 2022 you guys will have a great
  1002. 37:18training journey and let us know i'll
  1003. 37:21see you guys in the next one

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