Day 351: 1 Chronicles 16-18 | Read The Bible In A Year | Bible Study Commentary by Dr. Manny Arango — Transcript

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1. 0:00Hey Bible nerds, this is Dr. Manny
2. 0:02Orango. Welcome to the Bible department
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8. 0:24family. Welcome to day 351.
9. 0:27We are trekking through Chronicles
10. 0:31aka 1st Chronicles because we've split
11. 0:33it into two because of the modern
12. 0:36English translations. But anyway, 1
13. 0:38Chronicles chapter 16, 17, and 18 is on
14. 0:41the docket today. If you've done the
15. 0:44reading, then you're going to understand
16. 0:45everything that I'm going to say on
17. 0:46today's episode. But if you haven't done
18. 0:48the reading, this is my gentle nudge to
19. 0:51stop the video, pause the audio, go get
20. 0:53the reading done, read 1 Chronicles
21. 0:56chapters 16-18. I think that it'll add a
22. 0:59lot of value to you as you engage with
23. 1:02God's word. And like every day, I've got
24. 1:05so much content. I've got a lot to say
25. 1:07today. I'm going to give you some
26. 1:09context. And to be honest, the context
27. 1:12is pretty easy. Um, and so I'm going to
28. 1:14take this opportunity to kind of go back
29. 1:17and give you some context that I should
30. 1:18have given you a couple days ago, but
31. 1:20the context of these chapters is the
32. 1:22exact same as yesterday. All right, this
33. 1:25is the continuation of the procession of
34. 1:27the ark into Jerusalem and it is being
35. 1:30set up in the tent that David has
36. 1:33provided. It is then the context of
37. 1:35seeing the ark in the new tabernacle
38. 1:37that inspires David's temple dream.
39. 1:40Okay, he wants to build for God a
40. 1:43permanent house. Okay, so everything
41. 1:45that happened yesterday or on
42. 1:47yesterday's episode in 1 Chronicles
43. 1:50chapters 13-15, those are all the events
44. 1:53that are the context for today's
45. 1:55episode. Okay, so because the ark has
46. 1:57been brought back into Jerusalem, uh
47. 2:00because there is now a central place of
48. 2:02worship, now that is causing David to in
49. 2:06chapter 16 begin to say these words.
50. 2:09They brought the ark of God and set it
51. 2:11inside a tent that David had pitched for
52. 2:13it. And they prepared burnt offerings
53. 2:15and fellowship offerings. Okay? And
54. 2:17David is going to appoint Levites and
55. 2:19he's going to appoint singers and he's
56. 2:20going to sing a psalm. And then in
57. 2:23chapter 17 says this, after David was
58. 2:25settled in his palace, he said to Nathan
59. 2:27the prophet, "Here I am living in a
60. 2:29house of cedar while the ark of the
61. 2:31covenant of the Lord is under a tent."
62. 2:34Okay, so this is a great place to just
63. 2:36remind everybody that in the Bible when
64. 2:39we say the word tabernacle, that word
65. 2:41just means tent. Okay, so the tabernacle
66. 2:45that Moses received the instructions for
67. 2:48the tabernacle was a temporary dwelling.
68. 2:51It was a tent setup, tear down. You
69. 2:54could move it anywhere. The temple will
70. 2:56be a fixed building, a fixed structure.
71. 2:59The exact same architectural designs,
72. 3:02but one is temporary, one is permanent.
73. 3:04Okay? So, it'd be like taking a mobile
74. 3:08home, like a trailer, like a double wide
75. 3:10trailer, and taking the exact same
76. 3:12architectural designs, but making it
77. 3:15permanent. Okay? So, we're just going
78. 3:17from something that's mobile to
79. 3:19something that is 100% a building, a
80. 3:21fixed structure. That's it. same exact
81. 3:24function, same exact dimensions, same
82. 3:28exact architectural layout. All right,
83. 3:31so that's the context. So the context
84. 3:33for today is pretty pretty easy, which
85. 3:36gives me the opportunity to kind of go
86. 3:38back a couple of days and talk just a
87. 3:41little bit more about genealogies. Okay,
88. 3:42so if you remember the first three days
89. 3:45of Chronicles, we spent on genealogies.
90. 3:47From chapters 1 all the way to chapter
91. 3:499, we just talked about genealogies. So,
92. 3:52I've got four big ideas that I want us
93. 3:54to know about genealogies. Okay? And
94. 3:57these ideas, I mean, I think they're
95. 3:58pretty well organized. They may feel a
96. 4:00little bit all over the place. So, the
97. 4:02first one may feel like a little bit of
98. 4:03a curveball, but number one, the purpose
99. 4:06of of a genealogy is to give identity.
100. 4:09Okay, identity. Now, you may or may not
101. 4:13be familiar with the fact that black
102. 4:16Americans in the United States of
103. 4:17America predominantly like have a
104. 4:21genealogical crisis like some because we
105. 4:26were an enslaved group of people, there
106. 4:28are gaps in records for like who a dad
107. 4:34was or grandfather or great-grandfather.
108. 4:36And so there can be lineage like just
109. 4:39issues. Families got split up because of
110. 4:42the institution of slavery and family
111. 4:45units were completely destroyed. And so
112. 4:48because there's a genealogy issue,
113. 4:50there's this unique susceptibility
114. 4:54that black Americans have to what I
115. 4:56would call black identity cults. And
116. 4:59these become really, really popular. So
117. 5:02black Hebrew Israelites are not just a
118. 5:04religious cult. That's an identity cult.
119. 5:07And there are differences between a
120. 5:09religious cult and an identity cult.
121. 5:12Jehovah's Witness or Mormon, that's a
122. 5:14religious cult. And this is just my
123. 5:17observation as just being an American
124. 5:20who's black who lives in the United
125. 5:21States of America, is that I think our
126. 5:24white counterparts typically struggle
127. 5:26with religious cults, whereas black
128. 5:29Americans typically stumble into
129. 5:32identity cults. Okay? So, black Hebrew
130. 5:34Israelites are essentially saying,
131. 5:36"Black people are Jews, right? So, these
132. 5:40people stole our identity and we are
133. 5:43them." You know, it's like that
134. 5:44Spider-Man meme where everybody's
135. 5:46pointing at each other. And so, black
136. 5:48Hebrew Israelites are going to claim
137. 5:50that modern-day Jews are literally not
138. 5:53Jews. That the Jewish people of the
139. 5:56Bible were African, were black. Okay?
140. 5:59And that Jewish people today stolen
141. 6:02their identity. Okay? Okay, that's an
142. 6:03identity cult. Now, of course, it's an
143. 6:06identity religious cult, but it's still
144. 6:08an identity cult. The thing that black
145. 6:10Hebrew Israelites are praying on is
146. 6:13black people's generally speaking
147. 6:16feeling of like, I don't know who I am
148. 6:19or who I belong to. I don't have this
149. 6:21family tree that's like thoroughly
150. 6:23mapped out. I can't go back 10
151. 6:26generations and know who my people's
152. 6:28people's people's people's peoples were.
153. 6:31And because of holes in our
154. 6:33genealological records, it makes us
155. 6:36susceptible to identity cults. Another
156. 6:38identity cult would be the Nation of
157. 6:40Islam. I don't know if you realize this,
158. 6:42but all throughout the 50s and 60s,
159. 6:44you'd have people like Malcolm X or
160. 6:46Muhammad Ali, who would do away with
161. 6:50names that they would consider to be
162. 6:52slave names, names that were given to
163. 6:54them by masters and take on Middle
164. 6:57Eastern names. Names like, you know,
165. 6:59Muhammad Ali. But again, this is a group
166. 7:03of people who are not Arabic essentially
167. 7:06saying we're Arabic. So, not only So,
168. 7:10now there's a whole group of people,
169. 7:11black Hebrew, Israelites, who are saying
170. 7:12we're Jews. It's like, no, you're not.
171. 7:14You're black. You're not Jew. You're not
172. 7:16a Jew. You're not Jew. You're not a Jew.
173. 7:18But you don't know who you are. And so,
174. 7:20here's a group telling you who you are,
175. 7:23so you believe it. The same is true with
176. 7:25the Nation of Islam. It's like, we're
177. 7:27Muslims. No, you're not. And what
178. 7:30happened with Malcolm X is he finally
179. 7:31went to Mecca and realized we are not
180. 7:36Muslim. And then he actually converted
181. 7:37to true Islam, like actual Islam. But
182. 7:40again, on the surface, this looks like a
183. 7:42religious cult, but really it's an
184. 7:44identity cult. Why is this appealing to
185. 7:47a group of people that came out of
186. 7:48slavery? It's appealing because if you
187. 7:51don't know who you are, and someone
188. 7:53begins to say, "We're Muslims." It's
189. 7:56like, fantastic. I'd rather be a Muslim
190. 7:58than confused. I'd rather be a Jew than
191. 8:02confused. And so my like I'm black. So
192. 8:06my people really do like we fall into
193. 8:11these identity cult pitfalls. Okay?
194. 8:14Whereas like Mormonism is not an
195. 8:16identity cult. It's a it's a rel it's
196. 8:18just a religious cult. But you can see
197. 8:20the difference between Mormons are
198. 8:22building a religious idea around
199. 8:24doctrine. Whereas Hebrew Israelites and
200. 8:28Nation of Islam are building religious
201. 8:31ideology around identity, around race,
202. 8:35around ethnicity, around nationality,
203. 8:37around language. Like that's it's very
204. 8:40very very different. All right.
205. 8:41Genealogies are really, really
206. 8:43important, especially in the Bible,
207. 8:45because the Jewish people are coming out
208. 8:48of Egyptian slavery and bondage. And so
209. 8:53God's solution when people are coming
210. 8:55out of hundreds of years of oppression
211. 8:58and slavery is not just for them to
212. 9:01wander around and start to find
213. 9:03different identities. It's to give them
214. 9:06a genealogy because in the genealogy you
215. 9:10begin to get a narrative about your
216. 9:12values and about your culture and about
217. 9:15who you are. And so I think it's really
218. 9:17powerful. I actually think Christianity
219. 9:20is the best option, a for everybody, but
220. 9:24it's the best option for anyone that's
221. 9:27coming out of a historical context where
222. 9:30there's been enslavement, where there's
223. 9:33been a wiping away of of genealogy. I
224. 9:37think it's important to say, "No, I have
225. 9:40a spiritual heritage." Okay, that's just
226. 9:42the first idea. Number two, when I said
227. 9:44that genealogies have to do with rights,
228. 9:47here's two practical examples. Because
229. 9:50in Joshua, each tribe got land aotments,
230. 9:53you could not buy land. If you were from
231. 9:56the tribe of Benjamin, you couldn't buy
232. 9:58land from a Reubenite. Okay? Because
233. 10:01different tribes could not buy other
234. 10:03tribes land. Okay? So, you could only
235. 10:06sell land to someone who was of your
236. 10:09same tribe. So, in order to buy a land
237. 10:13in ancient Israel, you had to have your
238. 10:15genealogy. You had to be able to prove,
239. 10:18"Yeah, I'm from the tribe of Issachar."
240. 10:20And these this land right here was given
241. 10:23to the tribe of Issachar. Okay? Or, "I'm
242. 10:26from the tribe of Dan or Naftali." Okay?
243. 10:29You had to be able to prove your tribe
244. 10:32in order to sell land to someone or buy
245. 10:35land from someone. Okay? So that's just
246. 10:37when I say genealogies have to do with
247. 10:41rights, that's a practical example of
248. 10:43what I mean. And three or four days ago,
249. 10:46you may have been thrown off guard like
250. 10:47what what like what is he talking about?
251. 10:48Anyway, three, in order to serve as a
252. 10:51priest, you had to be able to prove that
253. 10:53you were a Levite. You had to be able to
254. 10:55prove that. And in in the book of Ezra,
255. 10:58what's happened is that there are all
256. 11:00these Levites that because of the exile,
257. 11:02they've lost their genealogical record
258. 11:04and they're serving in the temple. Okay,
259. 11:06this is before uh this is like uh Ezra
260. 11:10Rubbable's coming back and before
261. 11:12Nehemiah has come back. And one of the
262. 11:14things that Ezra has to do is go through
263. 11:17all the people who are serving in the
264. 11:19temple and demand their genealogies. And
265. 11:21if you can't prove beyond the shadow of
266. 11:24a doubt that you're actually a Levite,
267. 11:26you don't have the right to serve as a
268. 11:28Levite because only Levites can serve in
269. 11:30the temple. Okay. And then fourth, and
270. 11:33that this actually most important, you
271. 11:35couldn't claim to be the Messiah unless
272. 11:38you had a genealogy done. With no
273. 11:40genealogical record, you could not claim
274. 11:43to be the Messiah. Which is why, let's
275. 11:45think about this. The entire Old
276. 11:47Testament is going to end with 2
277. 11:49Chronicles, which has nine chapters of
278. 11:52genealogy. And how does Matthew start?
279. 11:55You guessed it, a genealogy. Okay? And
280. 11:59if you compare the genealogy that we
281. 12:02have in Chronicles to the genealogy that
282. 12:04we have in Matthew, the author of
283. 12:07Matthew aka Matthew is 100% proving
284. 12:12through the genealogy that Jesus is the
285. 12:15Messiah because that's what genealogies
286. 12:17are designed to do. So the genealogy in
287. 12:20Chronicles is going to go from creation
288. 12:22to kingdom to captivity. Okay? So that's
289. 12:25why it goes from Adam, okay, to David,
290. 12:29David is the establishment of the
291. 12:30kingdom up to captivity and then exile.
292. 12:34Guess what? If you look at that pattern,
293. 12:36you're going to see that in the book of
294. 12:38Matthew. Matthew 1:1 17. Thus there were
295. 12:4214 generations in all from Abraham to
296. 12:45David, 14 generations from David to the
297. 12:47exile, that would be captivity to
298. 12:49Babylon, and 14 generations from
299. 12:51captivity to the Messiah. So what
300. 12:54Chronicles is saying is that we went
301. 12:56from Adam to Abraham, Abraham and David,
302. 12:59David to the captivity, and then
303. 13:01captivity. Here we are now. We're back
304. 13:03in ex we're back from exile are left
305. 13:06kind of at a cliffhanger. And then
306. 13:08Matthew literally picks up and he goes,
307. 13:11"And guess what? Now the cliffhanger is
308. 13:13done because we've completed the last
309. 13:15piece of the genealogical puzzle." So
310. 13:17all right, genealogies super super super
311. 13:20important. like mad important. Like if
312. 13:23you skip them while you're reading,
313. 13:25you're essentially kind of just like not
314. 13:28getting you're you're missing the plot
315. 13:31and the genealogies are huge. All right,
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350. 14:55Number one, the number one thing that is
351. 14:58very very clear especially as we get
352. 15:01into chapter 16 is that David is going
353. 15:04to revolutionize worship forever. Okay,
354. 15:07so 1 Chronicles 16 4 5 and 6. Okay, it
355. 15:13says David appointed some of the Levites
356. 15:15to minister before the Lord to extol,
357. 15:18thank praise the Lord the God of Israel.
358. 15:21And then it lists all the people that he
359. 15:23does that to musicians and singers. This
360. 15:26right here, like this moment in history,
361. 15:29changes what we know as worship forever.
362. 15:33Prior to this moment, no one is singing
363. 15:35while offering sacrifices. This moment
364. 15:38right here, David changes the job
365. 15:41description of what it means to be a
366. 15:43Levite forever. Period. Prior to this,
367. 15:47Levites weren't, you know, it says that
368. 15:50uh Asaf the chief and next to him in
369. 15:52rank was Zechariah and Jeziel, Shemoth,
370. 15:55Jeil,
371. 15:57Matathiah, Eliabah, Banana, Obedam, Jel.
372. 16:01They were to play the liars and harps.
373. 16:04Asaf was to sound the symbols. And
374. 16:06Banaya and Jeziel the priests were to
375. 16:08blow the trumpets regularly before the
376. 16:10ark of the covenant. That is just not
377. 16:12what anyone was doing like that. That
378. 16:16that is not that day David first
379. 16:19appointed Asaf and his associates to
380. 16:21give praise to the Lord in this manner.
381. 16:23That's not what Levites were commanded
382. 16:26to do like by Moses or Aaron or anybody
383. 16:30else. This is David's idea. It's David's
384. 16:33idea to say let's add some singing like
385. 16:36let's let's add some music to this. Like
386. 16:39essentially how I feel about musicals.
387. 16:41I'm like, so instead of talking, they're
388. 16:43just singing. You know, David is like,
389. 16:45"AH, LET'S TAKE THIS MOVIE AND make it
390. 16:47into a musical." Okay, that's David's
391. 16:49idea. And guess what? We've kept it.
392. 16:51We've kept it for 3,000 years. David is
393. 16:54a th000 BC. He has a thousand years
394. 16:56before Christ. And we've been we're now
395. 17:00in 2,000 years post Christ. We've kept
396. 17:03David's system for worship for 3,000
397. 17:05years. Like the one dude completely
398. 17:08revolutionized what we think about when
399. 17:10we think about worship. Abraham said to
400. 17:13his servants, "Me and Isaac are going to
401. 17:14go up that mountain. We're going to
402. 17:16worship. We're going to come back."
403. 17:17David did not mean, "I'm going to go
404. 17:18sing songs at the top of that mountain."
405. 17:20That's not what David meant. He meant
406. 17:21I'm going to go kill my son. That's what
407. 17:23that's what I'm going to do. So forever,
408. 17:26worship was sacrifice. And then worship
409. 17:28was service. Okay? It's taking care of
410. 17:32the articles of the tabernacle. [snorts]
411. 17:33And it's David that adds singing. So if
412. 17:36you want to know the triple S, service,
413. 17:39sacrifice, and singing. David adds that.
414. 17:42And he leads by example. 1 Chronicles 16
415. 17:4623 to 20 to 34 actually has a whole well
416. 17:52right here in verse 8. Actually, he
417. 17:53breaks out in a psalm. But at verse 23,
418. 17:58it's almost like there's a new psalm
419. 17:59that starts uh singing to the Lord all
420. 18:02the earth. proclaim his salvation day
421. 18:03after day. What we have right here in
422. 18:051st Chronicles 16 23-34, we're going to
423. 18:09find that in Psalm 96, Psalm 105, and
424. 18:13Psalm 106. So, not only is David going
425. 18:16to revolutionize worship by delegating
426. 18:19the task of singing to Levites, he's
427. 18:21going to lead by example, which is going
428. 18:24to get me into my timeless truth for the
429. 18:26day. up. Then 1st Chronicles 17 mirrors
430. 18:302 Samuel 7. David is thinking to
431. 18:33himself, "Man, God lives in a tent. It's
432. 18:36great that we've brought the ark of the
433. 18:37covenant here to Jerusalem, but God's
434. 18:39living in a tent. I live in a house.
435. 18:41This is ridiculous." You can tell that
436. 18:44when he tells Nathan his idea, Nathan
437. 18:46agrees. Okay? Because David's idea is a
438. 18:49good idea. And Nathan makes a terrible
439. 18:52mistake as as a leader, as a prophet, as
440. 18:56a voice of God. Nathan gut reaction just
441. 18:59goes, "You should do that. That sounds
442. 19:01freaking great." Okay. Chapter 17:2,
443. 19:04Nathan replied to David, "Whatever you
444. 19:06have in mind, do it for God is with
445. 19:08you." But that night, the word of the
446. 19:10Lord came to Nathan, saying, "Go and
447. 19:11tell my servant David, this is what the
448. 19:13Lord says. You are not the one to build
449. 19:16me a house to dwell in." Which means
450. 19:18sometimes as leaders we can agree and
451. 19:21then assume to speak for God when God
452. 19:24has not agreed. Okay? And this is you
453. 19:26have to be careful. Nathan clearly
454. 19:30personally thinks this is a fantastic
455. 19:32idea. Also, God isn't like anti. He just
456. 19:37says, "David, you're not the one." Like
457. 19:39it's not you. Now, if we go all the way
458. 19:42back to Deuteronomy 12:5, okay, there
459. 19:45was always this inkling or this seed of
460. 19:48an idea that God would at one point not
461. 19:53just be in a tent, but would set up shop
462. 19:56like in a building. Okay, it says this
463. 19:58in Deuteronomy 12:5. But you shall seek
464. 20:01the place that Yahweh your God will
465. 20:04choose. Okay, so Yahweh will choose it,
466. 20:06but you're going to seek it. I want you
467. 20:08to seek the place that I'm going to
468. 20:10choose. So you can even see right there
469. 20:14a symbiotic relationship between us and
470. 20:16God. You seek it, but I'm going to
471. 20:18choose it. This that right there, that
472. 20:21equation is so helpful for our spiritual
473. 20:23reality. Faith and works. You seek, but
474. 20:27God chooses. This right here is a key
475. 20:31for how you should interpret your
476. 20:33relationship with God. You should seek a
477. 20:36wife, but God should choose the the the
478. 20:38the person. Like it's not just like God
479. 20:41told me who to marry. No, no, no, no,
480. 20:42no, no. You seek, God gives a stamp of
481. 20:46approval on it. God confirms. Okay? But
482. 20:49you shall seek the place that Yahweh
483. 20:51your God will choose out of all your
484. 20:55tribes. So, so it becomes clear not
485. 20:58every tribe is going to have the temple.
486. 21:01Okay? to put his name and make his
487. 21:04habitation habitation of his dwelling
488. 21:07place, his house. There you shall go. So
489. 21:10Deuteronomy 12:5 all all should let
490. 21:13everybody know David's not just like out
491. 21:16of God's will. Okay, David is seeking a
492. 21:21place where God should habitate. And God
493. 21:23then says, "Okay, I will say yes to this
494. 21:28place, but you're not going to build
495. 21:30it." Which gets us to why did God say
496. 21:33yes to the place? He actually said yes
497. 21:35to the place because he's saying yes to
498. 21:37David. David's heart is what he's been
499. 21:40looking for. God really wants to make
500. 21:42his dwelling place right here in in in
501. 21:46your heart. And finally, God finds a man
502. 21:49by the name of David who while he's in a
503. 21:51house thinks to himself, "Why isn't God
504. 21:55in a house?" And so David's request
505. 21:59pleases the Lord. But even though God is
506. 22:01pleased, God will never be manipulated.
507. 22:04So he doesn't change his answer just
508. 22:06because what David says pleases him.
509. 22:08David's heart is what he's been looking
510. 22:10for. He chooses David. And now God says,
511. 22:14"But I'm going to build you a house."
512. 22:16And it's a double entandra. What he
513. 22:18means is, "I'm going to build you a
514. 22:19dynasty. I'll build you a house so that
515. 22:22his house can build Yahweh's house." And
516. 22:25this is probably the greatest no from
517. 22:27God ever. God says no, but golly, God
518. 22:31oneuped the Annie. He's like, not you're
519. 22:35not going to build me a house, but I'm
520. 22:36going to build you a house, and your
521. 22:38house will build me a house. I'll build
522. 22:39you a dynasty, and your dynasty is going
523. 22:42to be the thing that will build me a
524. 22:44house. Which gets me into my Thomas
525. 22:46truth. If there's one thing I want to
526. 22:48hear from God in my lifetime, it's this.
527. 22:50I wrote it down in my notebook. No, not
528. 22:54you, but your son. No, not you, but your
529. 22:58son. Oh, man. That's my That's my heart
530. 23:01as a dad. I've got so many ideas for the
531. 23:05Bible department, for Arma, for Manny
532. 23:07Rango Ministries, for books, for albums,
533. 23:09for the garden, for businesses. Oh my
534. 23:12gosh. And I want to be the kind of
535. 23:14person that always inquires of the Lord.
536. 23:15God, do you want us to do seven
537. 23:18campuses? God, do you want us to expand
538. 23:20outside of Texas? God, do you want the
539. 23:22garden to be a church that, you know,
540. 23:24spans from west coast to east coast?
541. 23:27God, do you want us to do that? God, do
542. 23:28you want us to do that? God, do you want
543. 23:29us to do TV? God, do you want us to do
544. 23:31this? God, do you want us to do that?
545. 23:33God, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And my biggest
546. 23:35dream is one day God says, "No, not you,
547. 23:38but your son." Oh, that's a father's
548. 23:40dream. And if I could be vulnerable,
549. 23:43it's like we we me and my wife struggled
550. 23:45with infertility for 5 years. Doctor
551. 23:47said we would never get pregnant.
552. 23:48>> [snorts]
553. 23:48>> And then one day I heard Joel Ostein
554. 23:51preaching and he was talking about his
555. 23:53father and the Holy Spirit said to me,
556. 23:55"Are you willing to be John Ostein who
557. 23:58some people know but not a lot of people
558. 24:00know so that your son could be Joel
559. 24:02Ostein, someone who everybody knows?"
560. 24:04And I had this like I hope I could be
561. 24:06honest on the podcast had this moment of
562. 24:08jealousy over a child that wasn't even
563. 24:10born yet. I'm like I don't want to be
564. 24:12freaking John Ostein, man. I want to be
565. 24:14Joel. And the Lord said, "All right,
566. 24:16then I thanks for your honesty, but your
567. 24:19honest answer has now just prolonged
568. 24:21your infertility journey." And I
569. 24:23remember a couple years later, I was at
570. 24:25Hillsong Conference and uh Brian Houston
571. 24:27was on stage and his son Joel Houston
572. 24:29was on stage. And again, God saying, "Do
573. 24:31you want to be Brian Houston or do you
574. 24:32want to be Joel Houston?" And my heart
575. 24:34had finally changed and I said, "Man, I
576. 24:36I don't care." Cuz so often people know
577. 24:39Hill Song's music, but they don't know
578. 24:40who the senior pastor of the church is.
579. 24:42And I said, "Yeah, I don't care. I I'd
580. 24:44rather be anonymous. And then the third
581. 24:46example was Wendell Smith and Judah
582. 24:48Smith. That most people don't know who
583. 24:50Wendell Smith is, but he's the
584. 24:52foundation of of Judah's whole ministry.
585. 24:55And everybody knows who Judah Smith is.
586. 24:56He's Justin Bieber's pastor. He's, you
587. 24:58know, he's a celebrity pastor. I hate
588. 25:00that word, but you know, he's a
589. 25:01celebrity pastor. And I finally got to
590. 25:04the point of going, "Yep, I don't care
591. 25:07about being well-known or successful. I
592. 25:09I care about my son. I care about my son
593. 25:13fulfilling the call of God on his life.
594. 25:16And I would love to just be the
595. 25:19foundation. I would love to be David who
596. 25:22just buys the land and buys all the
597. 25:24stuff and then Solomon gets the credit
598. 25:26for building the temple. I actually
599. 25:28think that's the test of every dad. Do
600. 25:30you have enough vision to push the
601. 25:33boundaries so much that God will
602. 25:35eventually say, "No, not you, but your
603. 25:38son." That is a good father's dream. And
604. 25:42that wasn't always my dream, but today
605. 25:44that's my dream. And I don't think
606. 25:46that's just relevant for David or for
607. 25:49Solomon or for Ezra. I think that's
608. 25:52relevant for you and for me. I think
609. 25:54it's a timeless truth. Tomorrow we've
610. 25:56got day 352.
611. 25:59We're going to be looking at 1st
612. 26:00Chronicles chapters 19- 21. I'll be
613. 26:03right here ready to continue our trek
614. 26:05through Chronicles. I love you. I'm
615. 26:07proud of you. Especially if you're on a
616. 26:08streak. I'll see you tomorrow. Peace.
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