Day 328: Song Of Songs 7-8 | Bible Reading Plan | Bible Study with Commentary by Dr. Manny Arango — Transcript

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1. 0:00Hey Bible nerds, this is Dr. Manny
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8. 0:24family. Welcome to day 328 here on the
9. 0:27Bible department podcast. I hope I
10. 0:29didn't lose you yesterday. I hope you're
11. 0:31still rocking with me. I hope either
12. 0:34you're more interested in Song of Songs
13. 0:35than you ever have been or you're like,
14. 0:37"This ain't the book for me." EITHER
15. 0:40WAY, WE GOT ONE day left in Song of
16. 0:43Songs. Don't skip out on today. All
17. 0:46right, we got Songs, Song of Songs,
18. 0:48chapter 7 and 8. If you have not done
19. 0:51the reading, you can go do the reading
20. 0:53now. Stop the video, pause the audio, go
21. 0:56get the reading done, and then come
22. 0:58back. Like every day, we're going to
23. 1:00dive into context clues. Uh we're gonna
24. 1:03dive into some nerdy nuggets. I'm going
25. 1:04to try to give you as many as I can, and
26. 1:06then we're going to leave off the
27. 1:07episode with a timeless truth, and then
28. 1:09tomorrow we are in the book of Ruth. All
29. 1:13right, we can wave bye-bye to Song of
30. 1:16Songs. All right, let's get into the
31. 1:18context clues for today. I'm going to
32. 1:21give you a big 30,000 foot kind of idea
33. 1:24for uh Song of Songs. Remember I said
34. 1:26that of the four interpretive approaches
35. 1:29that we could pick for this book that
36. 1:32allegorical actually had some semblance
37. 1:35of legitimacy. said and then I said like
38. 1:38cultic absolutely none dramatic eh I
39. 1:42could take it or leave it but it it may
40. 1:44be helpful for some people to read the
41. 1:45book that way but that lyrical was my
42. 1:48favorite way to read the book and the
43. 1:50most academic way to read the book and
44. 1:53so let's talk about that you know ounce
45. 1:55of legitimacy that we have in the uh
46. 1:59allegorical way to read this book now
47. 2:02there's five books of the Hebrew Bible
48. 2:04or the Tanakh
49. 2:06uh that create what's called the megalo
50. 2:09okay or the five scrolls and that song
51. 2:12of songs Ruth lamentations Esther and
52. 2:15Ecclesiastes these five books of the
53. 2:18Tanakh or the Hebrew Bible are going to
54. 2:21get read at certain festivals all right
55. 2:24so uh it's almost like uh liturgy in
56. 2:28terms of there are certain things that
57. 2:29you read at certain times of the year
58. 2:32okay so I'm going to kind of tell you
59. 2:34all of them and I I'll leave Song of
60. 2:37Songs last. Okay. Uh Ecclesiastes was to
61. 2:40be read at the feast of tabernacles. The
62. 2:43book of Esther was to be read at Pim.
63. 2:46The book of Lamentations was to be read
64. 2:49on the 9th of A and that is festival or
65. 2:54that really culminates in morning. So uh
66. 2:57you could Google 9th of Av. I won't dive
67. 3:00into it here because I don't have time.
68. 3:02uh you it will make total sense why
69. 3:04limitations gets read on the 9th of of
70. 3:07AV of Ruth got read at Pentecost and
71. 3:11then Song of Songs was read at Passover.
72. 3:15Okay, so we need to kind of ask the
73. 3:18question why why was Song of Songs read
74. 3:22uh during Passover? And there's a really
75. 3:24really good reason for that. Okay, the
76. 3:26connection between Passover and the Song
77. 3:28of Songs might not be obvious at first,
78. 3:31but you begin to consider the ways these
79. 3:34poems have been interpreted over the
80. 3:36years, then it starts to make a lot of
81. 3:38sense. A Jewish interpretation was that
82. 3:41the poems reflect the relationship
83. 3:42between Yahweh and Israel, his bride. a
84. 3:46relationship uh that begins in Egypt
85. 3:49where he rescues them from working
86. 3:52through the or rescues them from slavery
87. 3:55or rescues them from working. Same as
88. 3:57this the the the female figure okay here
89. 4:01in Song of Songs through the Passover
90. 4:03and takes them to Sinai for a wedding
91. 4:06covenant for the wedding. You can see
92. 4:08straight away that even in Jewish times,
93. 4:10not everyone was sure what to do with
94. 4:13this book or how to interpret it. Okay?
95. 4:16So there is some legitimacy to the fact
96. 4:20that uh there is an allegorical nature.
97. 4:24That doesn't mean that allegory should
98. 4:26be the dominant way that we interpret
99. 4:29the text. It just means hey there's an
100. 4:32allegorical layer. But one layer by
101. 4:35itself shouldn't define the whole cake,
102. 4:37right? It's one layer. One layer. All
103. 4:41right. Kind of wanted to start off the
104. 4:42episode with that. Okay. Uh second thing
105. 4:45is I really want to give a disclaimer.
106. 4:48You may be thinking to yourself, man, I
107. 4:50shouldn't let my high school student
108. 4:51read Song of Songs or I shouldn't let my
109. 4:53middle school student read Song of
110. 4:55Songs. Or maybe you just feel uncomfort
111. 4:58uncomfortable with, you know, maybe
112. 5:00you're a parent, you feel uncomfortable
113. 5:02with the topic of sex with your teenager
114. 5:05or child. And I just want to say this to
115. 5:07you, okay? I want to kind of push back a
116. 5:10little. Okay? If you would, if you would
117. 5:12allow me to kind of speak pastorally
118. 5:14into your life, here's just an idea that
119. 5:16I think maybe most parents haven't
120. 5:19considered. Okay? And that's this. that
121. 5:22the first person to introduce an idea to
122. 5:26your children by default becomes the
123. 5:28expert on that topic. Say that again.
124. 5:31The first person to introduce an idea to
125. 5:34your child or to anybody really by
126. 5:37default becomes the expert on that
127. 5:39topic. So the first person to ever talk
128. 5:42to me about Bitcoin or cryptocurrency
129. 5:46was a guy named Daniel Welder Gabriel.
130. 5:47He's like the first person to really
131. 5:49talk to me about it. There could be
132. 5:51people who know more about it than him,
133. 5:54but he introduced it to me and therefore
134. 5:56every time I have a question about it, I
135. 5:59talk to him. Okay? Uh and you can
136. 6:02probably find that in your own life.
137. 6:04Okay? Whatever the topic, whoever
138. 6:06introduces that topic to you in your
139. 6:09mind, that person becomes the de facto
140. 6:13expert. Just by default, they become an
141. 6:15expert. And so I always ask parents this
142. 6:18question. Who do you want to be the
143. 6:22expert when it comes to sex as it
144. 6:25relates to your middle school student or
145. 6:27high school student? Do you want
146. 6:28pornography to be the de facto expert on
147. 6:31all things sex? Do you want a boyfriend
148. 6:35to become the de facto expert on all
149. 6:37things sex? Do you want a girlfriend to
150. 6:40become the de facto expert? Do you want
151. 6:42the middle school uh health instructor
152. 6:46to become the expert? Do you want the
153. 6:48sexed teacher to become the expert? Do
154. 6:50you want a vlogger? You want a trans
155. 6:53vlogger to be the expert, the deacto
156. 6:56expert? Like, who do you want to
157. 6:58introduce this idea to your kid? And if
158. 7:01if you'd like to be the expert, then
159. 7:04that means that you are going to have to
160. 7:07have an active relationship with this
161. 7:09conversation, not a reactive or passive
162. 7:12relationship with this topic as it
163. 7:15relates to your daughter or your son.
164. 7:19And the reality is that for many of us,
165. 7:22here's what did not happen. And and this
166. 7:24is the the conversation I plan on having
167. 7:26with my son. I plan on sitting him down
168. 7:29when he's probably seven, eight, nine
169. 7:32and just saying, "Hey, like I want to
170. 7:35tell you about the most beautiful thing
171. 7:36God made. The most beautiful thing that
172. 7:39God ever created." Okay? Cuz right now
173. 7:41my son's four and he's just like, "God
174. 7:43God made everything." You know, he's
175. 7:45like, "Dad, did God make that table?"
176. 7:47I'm like, "Well, God made humans and
177. 7:48humans made the table." And anyway
178. 7:50anyway, so I plan on telling him, "Hey,
179. 7:52I want to tell you about the most
180. 7:53beautiful thing that God made, okay?
181. 7:55It's not the moon. It's not the stars.
182. 7:56It's not the sun. It's not giraffes.
183. 7:59It's not me. [snorts] It's not you. It's
184. 8:00not humans. Okay? The most beautiful
185. 8:02thing, the most beautiful thing that God
186. 8:06made is the sexual relationship between
187. 8:08a man and a woman. It's beautiful. It's
188. 8:10the most mysterious. It's the most
189. 8:13captivating. It's the most beautiful
190. 8:16thing that God ever made. Okay? And um
191. 8:19you know, it's so important. It's so
192. 8:23precious. It's it's such a fascinating
193. 8:27topic that the I that that that Satan
194. 8:30likes to pervert it. And I want to talk
195. 8:33to you about the most beautiful thing
196. 8:35that God ever made. And it's called sex.
197. 8:38And it's the sexual relationship between
198. 8:40one man and one woman in the context of
199. 8:43a marital relationship. And um son, it's
200. 8:47like a fire. And a fire can do so many
201. 8:49great things, right? A fire [snorts] can
202. 8:52warm your hands. A fire can cook food.
203. 8:54You know, without fire, where would we
204. 8:56be? But a fire could also burn down your
205. 8:58house. And God made this. God made this.
206. 9:01And water's good. And and water can it,
207. 9:05you know, you can get fish out of water.
208. 9:07You can you water it sustains life, but
209. 9:11it can also flood a village and kill
210. 9:13everybody. Okay? So, you know, surfing,
211. 9:17fantastic. Tsunami, not so good. Okay?
212. 9:20And so sex is the most beautiful thing
213. 9:22that God ever made. And uh I want us to
214. 9:26have an open dialogue as it relates to
215. 9:30attraction, arousal, sexuality, sexual
216. 9:33expression. I want you to feel like you
217. 9:35can always talk to me and and I'm and
218. 9:37I'm going to talk to you about it. I'm
219. 9:39not going to wait for you to talk to me
220. 9:41about it. I'm going to I'm going to be
221. 9:42talking to you about it. I'm going to be
222. 9:43asking you questions and I want to know
223. 9:45what you know. And uh I just want you to
224. 9:48know like dad dad dad has every answer
225. 9:52to every question you could ever
226. 9:54imagine. And the the goal of that
227. 9:56conversation is not to weird him out or
228. 9:58to creep him out. The goal of that
229. 9:59conversation is to establish myself as
230. 10:02the expert when it comes to this topic
231. 10:05so that when he's 12, 13, 14, 15,
232. 10:09whatever age he is and he's got
233. 10:12questions that he goes, I can ask my
234. 10:14dad. I can ask my dad. Now, the voice of
235. 10:17puberty and the voice of the enemy is
236. 10:20going to be in his ear saying, "No, keep
237. 10:21a secret. No, ask your friend. No, ask
238. 10:24your uncle. No, ask this person. No, ask
239. 10:26that person. No, Google it. Ask Chad
240. 10:28GBT." Blah blah blah blah blah. But, and
241. 10:30I can't control all that. But what I can
242. 10:33control is the planting of the seed, the
243. 10:35planting of the thought in his mind that
244. 10:39man, I think my dad's the expert. Like,
245. 10:41like I think he knows. And that's just
246. 10:44that's my goal is to set myself up as
247. 10:47the expert when it comes to sex and
248. 10:50sexual expression and sexuality with my
249. 10:52son. And hopefully at some point me and
250. 10:56my wife have a daughter. And my goal is
251. 10:59that my wife will become the expert with
252. 11:01my daughter with our daughter. But
253. 11:03that's my job as a dad is to create a
254. 11:06judgment-free
255. 11:08space where he can ask me anything about
256. 11:11sex and about women and and about and
257. 11:14about about girls and and about his
258. 11:16attractions. And for me to be able to
259. 11:20love him, parent him, pastor him, guide
260. 11:23him, and train him up in the way that he
261. 11:25should go so that when he gets old, he
262. 11:27won't depart from it. Okay? And I think
263. 11:30that there's too many parents abdicating
264. 11:33that responsibility
265. 11:35to a sex head teacher at school, to a
266. 11:38boyfriend, to a girlfriend, to
267. 11:39pornography. By the way, the average age
268. 11:42of exposure to pornography in 2025 is 8
269. 11:45years old. So the average 8-year-old has
270. 11:48seen pornography. So, if the average
271. 11:518-year-old has seen pornography, if you
272. 11:54are naive enough to believe that your
273. 11:56kid just doesn't know what sex is at
274. 12:00all, I'm not saying you're wrong, but
275. 12:02I'm saying that you're w you're making a
276. 12:05wager, and I'd rather be safe than
277. 12:07sorry. Okay. All right. That's context.
278. 12:09That's a disclaimer. I've used up a lot
279. 12:11of my time. All right. Poem number seven
280. 12:14is Song of Songs chapter 6 verse4 to 8
281. 12:17verse4. poem number eight. We are going
282. 12:20to go to Song of Songs chapter 8 and we
283. 12:24are going to go to vers six. Okay. First
284. 12:28thing I actually want you to know in
285. 12:29verse five is it says, "Under the apple
286. 12:32tree I roused you." So, we're going to
287. 12:35get tons of garden imagery in most of
288. 12:38these poems. Okay? I know I kind of
289. 12:40hinted at that maybe yesterday or the
290. 12:42day before, but we're going to get tons
291. 12:44and tons and tons of garden imagery. Why
292. 12:46are they underneath a tree? They're
293. 12:48underneath a tree because the couple
294. 12:51that is personified here is a new Adam
295. 12:54and a new Eve. They're naked and with no
296. 12:57shame. And so next, okay, is the word
297. 13:00seal. Place me like a seal over your
298. 13:03heart, like a seal on your arm. This is
299. 13:05verse six. For love is as strong as
300. 13:08death is jealousy unyielding as the
301. 13:10grave. Let's talk about what a seal
302. 13:13would have done in context. Okay,
303. 13:16obviously many of us are not sending
304. 13:19letters and sealing it like with a
305. 13:21signate ring like that's just not what
306. 13:24you know many of us are doing. Okay, the
307. 13:26seal would bear the name of the one who
308. 13:28sealed the letter or the scroll. It
309. 13:31signified their authority that the words
310. 13:34were indeed theirs and theirs alone.
311. 13:37What was inside was only available to
312. 13:39the one who sealed it or who they sealed
313. 13:42it for and the one to whom it was given.
314. 13:47Okay? One giver, one recipient. The
315. 13:50bride is saying then that her name is on
316. 13:53his heart and arm. It belongs to her. No
317. 13:57one else has the authority to open it
318. 14:00and take what is inside. It is available
319. 14:03to her alone. I want you to think
320. 14:05forward to like the book of revelation
321. 14:07when it's like who can open the scrolls?
322. 14:09Who can unseal the seal? Well, only the
323. 14:12lamb who's been slain before the
324. 14:14foundations of the earth. Okay? Only he
325. 14:17can open its seal. Okay? So in the same
326. 14:20way marriage is a union whereby a seal
327. 14:25can only be given from one to another
328. 14:28and can only be opened from the one from
329. 14:31which it was given to the one it is uh
330. 14:34received by. Okay. Her love is as strong
331. 14:37as death such as the passion and
332. 14:39dedication she has from him. Here we are
333. 14:43also going to see our next uh nerdy
334. 14:45nugget. Okay. the word jealousy versus
335. 14:48envy. Uh it says this, I'll start at the
336. 14:52top of verse six. Place me like a seal
337. 14:54over your heart, like a seal on your
338. 14:56arm. For love is as strong as death.
339. 14:58It's jealousy unyielding as the grave.
340. 15:03It's it burns like blazing fire, like a
341. 15:06mighty flame. Okay, so we are now going
342. 15:09to dive into just that word jealousy.
343. 15:11Often times today, jealousy is used
344. 15:15really as a synonym to envy, which is a
345. 15:19mistake because jealousy and envy are
346. 15:21not the same thing. Okay? But jealousy
347. 15:25and envy don't mean the same thing.
348. 15:27Jealousy is the defense of the desire to
349. 15:32keep for yourself what is already yours.
350. 15:36Envy is to desire that which belongs to
351. 15:40someone else. So, so, so what the the
352. 15:45male voice is saying is that his heart
353. 15:47belongs to her alone. And so, her
354. 15:50jealousy for it was as strong and
355. 15:54inevitable as she itself. The same way
356. 15:57that people die is the same way that I
357. 15:59am jealous. Okay? So, jealousy and envy
358. 16:02not the same. Which explains why Yahweh
359. 16:05can describe himself as jealous as
360. 16:08opposed to why envy could be a one of
361. 16:11the ten commandments, right? Don't covet
362. 16:13that which belongs to your neighbor.
363. 16:15Okay? So envy is desiring something that
364. 16:18belongs to someone else and wishing that
365. 16:20it was yours. Jealousy is not that those
366. 16:25are not the same. Jealousy is wanting to
367. 16:27defend that which actually belongs to
368. 16:31you. It's actually yours. All right.
369. 16:34Next is we're going to get into a
370. 16:37metaphor where you kind of need to
371. 16:39understand the difference between a door
372. 16:41and a wall. Okay. So, chapter 8 verse 8,
373. 16:45we have a little sister and her breasts
374. 16:47are not yet grown. Okay. So, this is a
375. 16:50prepubescent girl. What shall we do for
376. 16:53our sister on the day she is spoken for?
377. 16:56That means on the day that she's
378. 16:58betrothed. Okay. So this is a girl who's
379. 17:01not yet at the age to be betrothed. So
380. 17:04betrodal age was right around 13. So who
381. 17:07knows this girl may be 10. She may be
382. 17:1011. Okay? She may be eight. Who knows?
383. 17:12And it says this. If she is a wall, we
384. 17:16will build towers of silver on her. And
385. 17:19then the metaphor, the metaphor is about
386. 17:21to make sense. If she is a door, we will
387. 17:24enclose her with with panels of cedar. I
388. 17:28am a wall and my breasts are like
389. 17:31towers. Thus I have become in his eyes
390. 17:33like one bringing contentment. Okay.
391. 17:36Wall versus a door. What's a wall? A
392. 17:40wall would be a woman who's like, you
393. 17:44know, placed a wall there. You can't get
394. 17:47in. A door is some is a woman who's wide
395. 17:51open. Okay. It can open and close. So,
396. 17:54what what they're saying is, hey, like
397. 17:57our little sister hasn't been betrothed
398. 18:00yet. Is she going to be a door or is she
399. 18:02going to be a wall? Okay. Is she going
400. 18:03to be someone who's absinate or is she
401. 18:06going to be someone who allows men in
402. 18:10and out? Okay. Is she a wall or is she a
403. 18:12door? Which really gets me into my
404. 18:15timeless truth for the day. And uh I'll
405. 18:18kind of steal my own thunder. But I
406. 18:21think that the goal of the scriptures
407. 18:23and of Song of Songs is to have purity
408. 18:27without purity culture. I think
409. 18:30sometimes when I tell people that I'm
410. 18:31anti-purity culture, they think that I'm
411. 18:34anti-purity, that I'm anti abstinence,
412. 18:38celibacy, that I'm against, you know,
413. 18:41people having a vow to stay sexually
414. 18:46pure until marriage. And that couldn't
415. 18:48be further from the truth. I'm all for
416. 18:50that. What I mean by purity culture is
417. 18:54shaming people, guilting people into
418. 18:56making that decision and then
419. 18:58incentivizing that decision by making
420. 19:00false promises. Like if you are pure,
421. 19:05you will have earned a spouse in a great
422. 19:07sex life. It's like, well, that's crazy.
423. 19:10And saying things that are just not true
424. 19:13about sex. saying, not admitting that
425. 19:17sex is pleasurable and it's great and
426. 19:19it's awesome. And so the Bible is all
427. 19:21about purity. It's just not purity
428. 19:24culture. And I think that we've got to
429. 19:27separate the two and we've got to keep
430. 19:30helping people to be pure because sex
431. 19:32will damage their life if used in an
432. 19:36unwise way. Okay? So, and you can hear
433. 19:39it. This older sister is like, "Hey man,
434. 19:42we got to help our little sister be a
435. 19:44wall and not a door." And then goes on
436. 19:46to say, "I'm a wall." Like, I have
437. 19:49proven throughout all of these poems and
438. 19:53all these songs that I wasn't sexually
439. 19:55active with my lover until our wedding.
440. 19:58So, next is I think we're going to get
441. 20:01the biggest proof that Solomon is not
442. 20:03the hero, okay, of the book as a whole,
443. 20:06but rather a villain. It says this in
444. 20:08verse 11, Solomon had a vineyard in Bal
445. 20:11Hammon. He let out his vineyard. He let
446. 20:15out, they rented out or leased out his
447. 20:18vineyard to tenants. Each was to bring
448. 20:22each was to bring forth its fruit a
449. 20:25thousand shekels of silver, but my own
450. 20:28vineyard is mine to give. Okay. So, it's
451. 20:31saying that um the main character, okay,
452. 20:35and and Solomon are gonna respond very
453. 20:38very differently to this vineyard
454. 20:40analogy. Okay, she had but one vineyard
455. 20:43and she gave it to her beloved. Solomon
456. 20:46can keep his thousand vineyards. He has
457. 20:49access to many women. His lifestyle
458. 20:52cheapens the poem's champions. Okay. The
459. 20:56poem's champions is this worker girl,
460. 20:59this country girl in her shepherd boy.
461. 21:01Solomon, keep your thousand for one is
462. 21:05far better. And then we get our final
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486. 22:06to the episode. Uh it says, "The
487. 22:08thousand shekels are for you, Solomon,
488. 22:10and 200 are for those who tend its
489. 22:14fruit." Then we get verse 13. You who
490. 22:16dwell in the gardens with friends and
491. 22:19attendance, let me hear your voice. Come
492. 22:21away, my beloved, and be like a gazelle
493. 22:23or like a young stag on the spice laden
494. 22:27mountains. So love is going to take on
495. 22:31the imagery of a garden. And we're going
496. 22:33to see that all throughout the book. But
497. 22:35it closes with that that for those who
498. 22:38heed the wisdom of Song of Songs, they
499. 22:43get to be Adam and Eve figure. They get
500. 22:45to come back into the garden and be
501. 22:47naked and not ashamed. Naked and not
502. 22:49ashamed means that your spouse should be
503. 22:51able to say anything. And it's not that
504. 22:54they're what they say may not get
505. 22:57challenged, but that what they said
506. 23:00won't ever be met with judgment or
507. 23:01shame. There's a there's a big
508. 23:03difference between shaming someone or
509. 23:06judging someone for what they say versus
510. 23:08correcting what they say. Last thing is
511. 23:11that as we compare Israel's relationship
512. 23:15with Yahweh, this our timeless truth, by
513. 23:17the way, as we uh compare Israel's
514. 23:19relationship with Yahweh, we want to
515. 23:21keep in mind that Israel's relationship
516. 23:24with Yahweh, our relationships with our
517. 23:27spouses include fileto, Aeros, and
518. 23:29Agape. Meanwhile, our relationship with
519. 23:32the Lord really is only fileto and
520. 23:35agape. And you may not know what those
521. 23:37Greek words mean. Um, but there are
522. 23:38multiple Greek words for love. And
523. 23:40there's only one English word for love.
524. 23:43And one of those Greek words was uh
525. 23:46fileto, which means like brotherly love.
526. 23:49It's like Philadelphia fileto, brotherly
527. 23:52love, family love, friendship love. And
528. 23:55aeros is where we get the word erotic,
529. 23:58right? So there's aeros love, there's
530. 24:00passionate sexual, sensual love, and
531. 24:02there's agape. This like perfect godly
532. 24:06love, like the kind of love that that
533. 24:09Jesus offers. And I think sometimes when
534. 24:11we get into marital conversations, we
535. 24:14need agape, we need fileto, but there's
536. 24:17this other category of love that we
537. 24:19don't necessarily have with God. That's
538. 24:21aeros love. And I've heard a lot of
539. 24:23people say, you know, my husband should
540. 24:26love me like Christ loved the church.
541. 24:28And I'm like, yeah, absolutely. Like,
542. 24:31please. Like, that is the standard that
543. 24:34Paul gives men. And I then say, but I
544. 24:37just want to give you like one caveat is
545. 24:40that, you know, Jesus doesn't have to be
546. 24:43in an erotic relationship with you. So,
547. 24:46like, yes, like your your husband needs
548. 24:49to have agape. your husband needs to
549. 24:52have fileto for you. But there's also
550. 24:54like an erotic part of love that if
551. 24:58we're not careful, we'll just
552. 24:59overspiritualize marriage and
553. 25:02overspiritualize everything about
554. 25:03marriage. And it's almost like we'll
555. 25:06throw out the erotic part of marriage.
556. 25:08And I think that it's really really
557. 25:10important that we always remember when
558. 25:14we talk about marriage, yes, I have a
559. 25:17friendship with the Lord that has to be
560. 25:19protected. I have a grace and a perfect
561. 25:24love with God that requires me to be
562. 25:27obedient. Like there's agape, there's
563. 25:29fileo, but there is not an erotic
564. 25:31element to my relationship with the
565. 25:33Lord. And I think that sometimes if we
566. 25:35just try to map our relationship with
567. 25:37God onto marriage, I think that we end
568. 25:39up essentially giving married people
569. 25:43really bad advice like like like the
570. 25:46kind of advice that really leads to
571. 25:49people not emphasizing the sexual health
572. 25:52of their marital relationships and
573. 25:54almost ignoring the sexual realities of
574. 25:58of the sensual and sexual realities of
575. 26:01of a relationship of an earthly physical
576. 26:05human relationship. And I would just
577. 26:07challenge us that when we talk about
578. 26:10marriage, you have to include the
579. 26:15friendship love, the fileto love, the
580. 26:18erotic love, and agape love. All right,
581. 26:20tomorrow we're going to dive into the
582. 26:22book of Ruth. We're going to take one
583. 26:24day to study the entire book of Ruth.
584. 26:27It's going to it's going to be dope. I
585. 26:28love the book of Ruth. I'm really really
586. 26:30excited about it. I'll see you right
587. 26:32here, same time, same place as we dive
588. 26:34into Ruth chapters 1, 2, 3, and 4. Get
589. 26:38the reading done. Meet me right back
590. 26:39here tomorrow. Love you guys. Peace.
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