Day 322: Job 32-33 | Read The Bible In A Year | Bible Study with Commentary by Dr. Manny Arango — Transcript

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1. 0:00Hey Bible nerds, this is Dr. Manny
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8. 0:24Welcome to day 322 here on the Bible
9. 0:27department podcast. I'm super excited to
10. 0:30jump into Job chapter 32 and 33 today.
11. 0:35Today we've got a brand new character
12. 0:37who's just literally appearing out of
13. 0:40nowhere. His name is Elhoo. Elahoo. And
14. 0:44we don't really know much about Elohoo.
15. 0:45We know he's young. We know that he's
16. 0:47been patiently waiting to kind of add
17. 0:50his two cents to the conversation that's
18. 0:53been happening between Job and his
19. 0:55friends. And today we're just going to
20. 0:57dive into the first part of his speech
21. 1:01to Job and the friends or really the
22. 1:04first speech that he's going to give.
23. 1:06That's what we got on the docket today
24. 1:08for Job chapter 32 and 33. Hey, if you
25. 1:11haven't read these two pretty short
26. 1:14chapters out of the book of Job, how
27. 1:16about you stop this video, pause the
28. 1:18audio, go get the reading done for the
29. 1:21day. I promise you watching this episode
30. 1:23is going to have so much more value if
31. 1:26you actually come into the episode
32. 1:30having done the reading for the day. So
33. 1:32I want to just say that today and
34. 1:34tomorrow we'll be looking at Elahoo's
35. 1:37speech. So we'll be kind of be wrapping
36. 1:39our minds around this one character for
37. 1:42two days in a row. Okay, today we're
38. 1:44looking at Job chapter 32-33. So for
39. 1:47anyone who needs context, we'll just
40. 1:49kind of map out how this section of
41. 1:52monologues works. We've got Job's
42. 1:55monologue, which we looked at yesterday,
43. 1:57which is Job chapter 29 and 31. And then
44. 1:59chapters 32 to 37 is a monologue by a
45. 2:03man named Elihoo. And then after that,
46. 2:06we're going to get a monologue from
47. 2:08Yahweh. So let's just zoom in to Elhoo's
48. 2:12monologue because he's going to actually
49. 2:14give three separate speeches. Okay. He's
50. 2:17going to give an introduction, a speech,
51. 2:19another speech, another speech, then a
52. 2:22conclusion. So, I would [snorts] say Job
53. 2:24chapter 32 feels like an introduction.
54. 2:27All right. He starts off in verse 6. I'm
55. 2:30young in years and you're old. That is
56. 2:32why I was fearful, not daring to tell
57. 2:34you what I know. I thought age should
58. 2:37speak. Advanced years should teach
59. 2:38wisdom. But it is the spirit in a
60. 2:41person, the breath of the Almighty that
61. 2:43gives them understanding. I agree with
62. 2:45that. I there there there are a handful
63. 2:48of people where I'm like, man, I know
64. 2:49I'm only 38 and I know you may be 60,
65. 2:53but I know that I have the wisdom to to
66. 2:55pastor you. I I know that I know that
67. 2:57the Lord has spoken to me. So, I'm I'm
68. 2:59with Elohoo, man. I I can rock with
69. 3:01Eloo. It says to the friends, okay? And
70. 3:04really, I I would say his speech, in my
71. 3:07opinion, doesn't really start until
72. 3:09chapter 33. Okay? Because he's
73. 3:11responding to the friends for a while.
74. 3:14He says, "I too will tell you what I
75. 3:16know. I waited while you spoke. I
76. 3:18listened to your reasoning while you
77. 3:20were searching for words. I gave you my
78. 3:22full attention. But not one of you has
79. 3:25proved Job wrong. None of you has
80. 3:28answered his arguments." That's verse
81. 3:3012. Okay.
82. 3:31>> Uh verse 13. Do not say we have found
83. 3:33wisdom. Let God, not a man, refute him.
84. 3:36But Job has not marshaled his words
85. 3:40against me, and I will not answer him
86. 3:41with your arguments. They are dismayed
87. 3:44and have no more to say. Words have
88. 3:46failed them. So Ellie, who's essentially
89. 3:50basic claim to the three friends is
90. 3:52like, just because you're old doesn't
91. 3:53mean you're wise. Like just cuz you're
92. 3:55old doesn't mean you know what you're
93. 3:56talking about. You're you're older than
94. 3:58me, but I'm a young buck. I got
95. 4:01something to say. Okay. So Job chapter
96. 4:0332 is an introduction slashresponse to
97. 4:08these friends, Job's friends, Job's old
98. 4:10friends. And then once we get into
99. 4:12chapter 33, we get full-blown, you know,
100. 4:15we're we're responding to Job. Ellie who
101. 4:17is responding to Job. And I would say I
102. 4:20would still say chapter 32 and 33 are
103. 4:22speech one. It's just that some of
104. 4:24speech one is directed to the friends
105. 4:26and some of speech one is directed to
106. 4:27Job. And that po portion where it's
107. 4:30directed to the friends kind of feels
108. 4:32like a little bit of an introduction,
109. 4:34but speech one nonetheless. Job chapter
110. 4:3734, which we'll start looking at
111. 4:38tomorrow, is speech number two. Okay,
112. 4:41this is Elhus's second speech. And then
113. 4:44Job chapter 35, this is Elhoo's third
114. 4:47speech. So he's going to give three
115. 4:48speeches total. And then Job chapter 36
116. 4:51and 37 is Ellie who's conclusion. All
117. 4:54right, so that's just context. Okay, we
118. 4:57don't know who Elihoo is. He is a brand
119. 4:59new character. He appears out of
120. 5:01nowhere. He gives multiple speeches
121. 5:04obviously, then disappears and nobody
122. 5:08responds to him. Job didn't respond to
123. 5:10him. The Job's friends don't respond to
124. 5:13him. Ellie who is young and has been
125. 5:15there all along. He's listened to
126. 5:18everything that all the friends have had
127. 5:20to say. So odd. I like this. The whole
128. 5:24him as a character is just odd. Now what
129. 5:27he has to say is fascinating. And we're
130. 5:30going to dive into that now as we
131. 5:31transition into our nerdy nuggets for
132. 5:34the day. All right. Essentially,
133. 5:36Elihoo's main argument to Job is like,
134. 5:39you're claiming that God's not talking,
135. 5:42but God's definitely talking. You're
136. 5:44claiming that like you want God to
137. 5:46answer you or to respond, but he's
138. 5:48responded. Okay, it says this in verse
139. 5:5014, Job chapter 33. And again, if you
140. 5:54take these verses out of context, there
141. 5:57are so
142. 6:00he's just freaking wrong. But like this
143. 6:02is such an odd place where like most of
144. 6:05the time verses taken out of context are
145. 6:08like terrible, right? That makes no
146. 6:10sense out of context. It only makes
147. 6:12sense in context. These passages from
148. 6:16Elhoo, but also Elephaz, Bildad, and
149. 6:18Zofar are all like out of context. These
150. 6:22sound amazing. Like this makes so much
151. 6:24sense. if if I didn't know that context
152. 6:28proves that you guys are freaking idiots
153. 6:30and you're wrong. Okay, so uh let's
154. 6:33let's look at chapter 33:14
155. 6:36together. It says this. Job 33:14. Let's
156. 6:39look at it together. For God does speak
157. 6:42now one way, now another. Okay. Hey Job,
158. 6:46I know you're saying God's not talking
159. 6:47to you, but God does speak. Okay, now
160. 6:51one way, now another, though no one
161. 6:53perceives it. says, "Hey, you've got a
162. 6:56perception problem. We got a hearing
163. 6:58problem, not a talking problem. God's
164. 7:01talking. God's speaking. You don't
165. 7:03perceive it." And that's the actual
166. 7:05issue. Uh, and then it says, "He may
167. 7:07speak in the ears and terrify them with
168. 7:09warnings to turn them from wrongdoing,
169. 7:11to keep them from pride, to prevent them
170. 7:14from the pit, their lives from perishing
171. 7:18by the sword. Or someone may be chasened
172. 7:21on a bed of pain with constant distress
173. 7:24in their bones so that their body finds
174. 7:28food repulsive in their soul loathes the
175. 7:31choices meal. Their flesh waste away to
176. 7:34nothing and their bones once hidden now
177. 7:36stick out. They draw near to the pit and
178. 7:40their life to the messengers of death.
179. 7:44Yet if there is an angel at their side,
180. 7:47a messenger, one out of a thousand, send
181. 7:50to them. Send to them how to be upright.
182. 7:54Okay. So what is Elihoo saying? He's
183. 7:57saying God does speak. He just doesn't
184. 7:59speak the way that you want him to
185. 8:00speak. God speaks through dreams in
186. 8:03visions of the night. When deep sleep
187. 8:05falls on people as they slumber on their
188. 8:07beds, he may speak in their ears and
189. 8:10terrify them with warnings. So God
190. 8:13speaks in ways that are not comfortable.
191. 8:15And not only does God speaks in, you
192. 8:18know, bad dreams and nightmares. Not
193. 8:21only does God speak in a way that
194. 8:22terrifies people while they're in the
195. 8:24middle of the night, while they're
196. 8:25sleeping, but he also chasen people. He
197. 8:30also disciplines people. He also sends
198. 8:33suffering. And in the middle of
199. 8:35suffering, guess what happens? We begin
200. 8:37to hear God's voice. And when you think
201. 8:40about it, ELAHOO AIN'T WRONG. MY brother
202. 8:43is not wrong. Okay, this is the tension
203. 8:46with the book of Job period, but it's
204. 8:48also the tension of uh of just the
205. 8:52friends or characters. I don't know if
206. 8:54Ellieoo would be considered a friend,
207. 8:57but he's a character that is responding
208. 9:00to Job. Okay. Ellie who then seems to be
209. 9:03arguing that God is speaking, but Job
210. 9:05isn't listening. Job has had nightmares.
211. 9:07We know this in Job chapter 7:14. Job
212. 9:11has been sick. These were both God
213. 9:14speaking, but Job wasn't listening. The
214. 9:16nightmares and the boils, the sickness.
215. 9:18This was God speaking according to Eloo.
216. 9:21Sometimes God speaks through an angel or
217. 9:23messenger. So God speaks, Sometimes God
218. 9:26speaks through other people. Elhoo is
219. 9:28saying that God is speaking to Job
220. 9:30through what is happening to him. But
221. 9:32Job isn't listening. Job must observe
222. 9:35his life and learn what God is saying so
223. 9:39that God can redeem him. Man, that's
224. 9:43fascinating. Now, here's the tension.
225. 9:46Generally speaking, what Elohoo is
226. 9:48saying is pretty spot-on. I would add a
227. 9:51caveat, though. There's a caveat. I
228. 9:53think that God can redeem suffering, but
229. 9:56I don't think God causes suffering to
230. 9:58happen just so that he can get people's
231. 10:00attention. So, I've heard this in church
232. 10:03a lot. Like, man, God sent me a wakeup
233. 10:06call. Man, my mama got cancer. That was
234. 10:08God sending me a wakeup call. I don't
235. 10:10know if that was God sending you a
236. 10:12wakeup call. I think life sucks. The
237. 10:14enemy attacks people with cancer. I
238. 10:16think your your mom your mom got cancer.
239. 10:18Okay? God used that to serve as a wakeup
240. 10:24call. Okay? And as long as we've got
241. 10:26that nuance, I'm cool. But the moment we
242. 10:29start getting down the road of like God
243. 10:32did this on purpose, he actively did
244. 10:37this so that I could get a wakeup call.
245. 10:41That is that's hard. That's going to be
246. 10:44a tough pill for for me to swallow. I
247. 10:46know there's other people maybe that's
248. 10:48fine with you, but man, that says a lot
249. 10:51about God. Like at least it does to me.
250. 10:54And I know everybody's not going to
251. 10:56agree. And my goal on this podcast is
252. 10:58not to just get a bunch of people to
253. 11:00agree with me. I actually would love
254. 11:02nothing more than for people to disagree
255. 11:04with me because that means we're
256. 11:05wrestling with ideas, which is the
257. 11:06point. Um, so man, God sent me a wakeup
258. 11:10call. My mom got got cancer. I I think
259. 11:13that God can speak through hard things,
260. 11:16but I don't think it's like God is
261. 11:18sending the hard thing on purpose to get
262. 11:21people's attention. But that's Eloo's
263. 11:23stance. He's saying, "Look, he may speak
264. 11:26in their ears and terrify them with
265. 11:28warnings to turn them from wrongdoing,
266. 11:30to keep them from pride, to preserve
267. 11:33them from the pit, their lives from
268. 11:35perishing by the sword." So Ellie who is
269. 11:38claiming that even if night terrors or
270. 11:43you know physical suffering and pain
271. 11:45results in that person not going down to
272. 11:49the pit to sh like dying and and losing
273. 11:54out on the the pleasure and the
274. 11:57privileges of afterlife. God essentially
275. 11:59goes yes it's worth it. it's worth it to
276. 12:01send some pain now so that this person
277. 12:04doesn't have to experience eternal
278. 12:06separation from me. And I think
279. 12:09theologically that is that's going to be
280. 12:12a hard position for me to like to take.
281. 12:16But I do I do get that it's a position
282. 12:19and I'm not even saying that people who
283. 12:21hold that position are wrong. But I am
284. 12:23saying it's not the position that I
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311. 13:28episode. In a real way, in a very, very,
312. 13:31very real way, Ellie is saying something
313. 13:34that's very true. And uh I'm gonna quote
314. 13:37CS Lewis because Ellie who's not that
315. 13:40far off from saying the same thing that
316. 13:42like CS Lewis like said, okay, uh in the
317. 13:46Problem of Pain, incredible writing, by
318. 13:49the way. Like if you haven't read The
319. 13:51Problem of Pain, you should you should
320. 13:52read it. It says this uh this is just a
321. 13:54quote taken straight out of the Prom of
322. 13:56Pain. It says, "God whispers in our
323. 13:59pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but
324. 14:02shouts in our pains. It is his megaphone
325. 14:05to rouse a deaf world. Again, the
326. 14:08problem of pain. And I agree with CS
327. 14:10Lewis that a lot of times pain and
328. 14:12suffering can become a wake-up call. But
329. 14:16I would still just be at, hey, we're at
330. 14:19God has allowed said pain and suffering
331. 14:22to happen, not God has authored this
332. 14:26pain and suffering to happen. And uh I'm
333. 14:29cool with God allowing it to happen and
334. 14:30then using it and not letting anything
335. 14:33be a waste, but making sure that if
336. 14:37there's going to be pain or suffering
337. 14:38that he is helping to redeem it and and
338. 14:44get the most good out of it as humanly
339. 14:46possible. I'm completely comfortable
340. 14:48with that. So now here's the the the big
341. 14:53thing and this is what Ellie who speech
342. 14:55is really setting us up for. Okay?
343. 14:57Whether Yahweh has or hasn't spoken to
344. 14:59Job through his, you know, nightmares or
345. 15:02through his physical suffering, we don't
346. 15:04know. We have no idea. But what we do
347. 15:07know is that God is about to speak in a
348. 15:11couple of chapters. And man, Job could
349. 15:14have heard what Yahweh has to say with
350. 15:18or without all of the physical and
351. 15:21emotional and financial pain that Job
352. 15:24has gone through. So whether Yahweh has
353. 15:28or hasn't spoken to Job, we don't know.
354. 15:30What we know though as a fact is that
355. 15:34God is certainly about to talk to Job.
356. 15:38So h is it true? Like has God been
357. 15:42trying to speak to Job through all this
358. 15:46drama? Maybe. We don't know. There's no
359. 15:48way to know that for sure. But is God
360. 15:51about to speak? Oh yes, he is. And I
361. 15:54just want to use that as an
362. 15:55encouragement for you today. Maybe
363. 15:56you're going through something very,
364. 15:57very difficult. And up until this point,
365. 16:00you don't think God has spoken. But can
366. 16:02I tell you something? He can and he
367. 16:04wants to. And um Ellie who is right
368. 16:08about the fact that God is always
369. 16:10communicating. The real question is, are
370. 16:13we in a position to hear him, to
371. 16:15communicate back, not just to
372. 16:17communicate with him, but have him
373. 16:19communicate with us? And my challenge
374. 16:22for anybody who's walking through a
375. 16:24really, really, really hard season is to
376. 16:26really hunker down on hearing the voice
377. 16:29of the Lord because hearing the voice of
378. 16:32the Lord can can honestly sustain you
379. 16:36for years while you're going through a
380. 16:39really, really, really difficult time or
381. 16:42a difficult trial or difficult season.
382. 16:44So, I would admonish anyone who's heard
383. 16:48um who's heard like this episode today
384. 16:52and it's and it's just like, man, I
385. 16:54don't know if I agree. Like, I've gone
386. 16:56through a lot of pain and I just don't
387. 16:58know if God's speaking to me in it.
388. 17:00Whether or not he has does not determine
389. 17:03whether or not he can and will. And so
390. 17:05I'm believing that you will hear God's
391. 17:07voice in the middle of pain even if you
392. 17:09haven't already because God does use
393. 17:12pain to really really really communicate
394. 17:14with us. But you got to be intentional
395. 17:17about going through pain and finding not
396. 17:21just a silver lining but finding what
397. 17:23God wants to reveal to you in the middle
398. 17:26of pain. And that's not just true for
399. 17:28Job and his friends. That's true for you
400. 17:31and I. Tomorrow we've got day 3:23.
401. 17:35We're going to be looking at the rest of
402. 17:37Elhoo's speech or speeches. Uh we got
403. 17:41Job chapters 34-37
404. 17:44tomorrow. I'm super super excited. I
405. 17:47feel like I can see the light at the end
406. 17:48of the tunnel. After tomorrow, we only
407. 17:51got two days left. So, we're flying
408. 17:53through these. Uh love you guys. If
409. 17:55you're on a streak, I'm so so so so so
410. 17:57proud of you. If you're not on a streak,
411. 17:59I love you. There's no condemnation for
412. 18:01those of us who are in Christ Jesus.
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