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0:00Hey Bible nerds, this is Dr. Manny
0:02Orango. Welcome to the Bible department
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0:08through the entire Bible in a year. You
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0:24Hey family, welcome to day 315. We are
0:27diving into the book of Job or
0:29continuing our deep dive into the book
0:32of Job. We are in chapters 11, 12, 13,
0:35and 14 today. Some solid solid solid
0:40content today. My job today is to
0:42actually say a couple things that I
0:44should have said yesterday. Going to
0:45give you some nerdy nuggets from the
0:47chapters that were assigned for
0:49yesterday. So, sorry in advance. We're
0:51going to go back a little so that we can
0:53go forward. The reading today, honestly,
0:56dense but good. Some verses that I think
0:59we're all familiar with come out of
1:00today's reading. Uh I don't know if
1:02you're familiar with Job chapter 13. I
1:04heard this said in church all the time.
1:06Uh verse 15, though he slay me, yet will
1:09I hope in him. Yet, though he slay me,
1:13yet will I trust him is how I grew up
1:17hearing it. That's probably King James
1:18or New King James. But anyway, with no
1:21further ado, let's dive into today's
1:23content. If you have not done the
1:26reading for the day, this is my
1:29challenge to you to stop the video,
1:31pause the audio, go get the reading
1:32done. Job chapter 11, 12, 13, and 14.
1:37Solid, solid reading. Shouldn't take
1:39long. It is dense, so heads up if you
1:42haven't done the reading. And I actually
1:44have a copy of my latest book, Crushing
1:48Chaos, with me today. Number one, I've
1:50got a copy of it because the artwork is
1:53straight out of the book of Job. Okay?
1:54The artwork is the God figure here
1:58crushing Leviathan. Okay? Or destroying
2:01Leviathan. And this artwork comes
2:04straight out of the end of the book of
2:07Job. I think somewhere in the high30s,
2:09maybe like chapter 37, 38, something
2:11somewhere in that direction where God
2:15actually gives a description of Behemoth
2:17and Leviathan. Now, that's not what
2:18we're going to talk about today, but we
2:20are going to talk about some other
2:22content from the book of Job that I
2:24actually wrote about in Crushing Chaos.
2:27Because if you've already noticed, maybe
2:29you've already noticed this, Job is
2:31going to have a ton of chaos language.
2:35And I want to help us to interpret that
2:37chaos language. But before we dive into
2:40that, let me give you some context clues
2:42for the day. Now, I teased this up. I
2:45teed this up yesterday. Kind of teased
2:48this idea that Job is the oldest book of
2:52the Bible. Now, I've heard that said a
2:54ton. Maybe you have, maybe you haven't.
2:56If you're watching this on YouTube, let
2:59me know in the comments whether or not
3:00you've heard that said before. Okay,
3:02Job, the oldest book ever written. Okay,
3:05now that's kind of like an urban legend.
3:07Like, I remember hearing that as like a
3:10young adult. I won't say who said it.
3:13very very very prominent pastor said it
3:17like if I said their name everyone would
3:19know who I'm talking about very very
3:21prominent church leader that kind of
3:23said that and I just kind of took it at
3:27face value assumed that that was the
3:29truth because why would someone say
3:31something in church that's not true and
3:33then I remember going off like getting
3:35my master's degree studying for my
3:37doctoral work and like researching this
3:40and coming to the conclusion that There
3:42may be smidge of truth to that but the
3:46reality is that Job is not the oldest
3:49book of the Bible like that that is
3:52categorically untrue. Now let's dive
3:56into when this book could have possibly
3:59been written and why do people think
4:01that it is the oldest book of the Bible.
4:04All right. Okay. First things first.
4:07What is the validity of this statement?
4:09Okay. Before we say that something's
4:11ridiculous, let's actually assume that
4:13there's some validity here. Okay. Now,
4:15the validity is that Job and his
4:20lifestyle and his friends reflect a more
4:25patriarchal
4:26moment in history. Okay. So Job in terms
4:30of his wealth being in his flocks, in
4:34terms of offering of sacrifices in the
4:38prologue where he's offering sacrifice
4:41on behalf of his children, there's no
4:42mention of the temple like he's living a
4:45very Abrahamic lifestyle. Okay. So, a
4:49lot of people will admit the cultural
4:53lifestyle that him and his friends seem
4:56to be living, it looks like Abraham.
4:59Like in just terms of how they're living
5:02their life. It would it's kind of like
5:04if you go like visit, you know, an Amish
5:09community, you would say, oh yeah, like
5:12you may think you're in the 1700s,
5:14right? But you're not. It's just the
5:16people are living in an old way. Okay?
5:20So, Job is living in a way that is way
5:25more ancient than let's say David's
5:28generation or Solomon or anything like
5:30that. So, in terms of the setting for
5:34the actual story, that is ancient. Also,
5:37all throughout the book of Job, the word
5:40Yahweh is not really used a lot. Okay?
5:43Yahweh is going to get used in the
5:45prologue and the epilogue, but in the
5:47dialogue between Job and his friends and
5:50the monologue, it's El Shadai, which
5:53Elshadai is an older word for God.
5:56Remember, the word Yahweh is not
5:59revealed until we get to Moses. So, in
6:03terms of okay, when are the events of
6:07the story taking place? The events of
6:10the story are old. Like the events of
6:14the story could be Abraham or even
6:18pre-abbrahamic
6:20in that regard old. However, the Hebrew
6:24that we have is very close to Aramaic.
6:28Okay, which actually is a signal that
6:32this was written way later like
6:35postexile.
6:37Now let's think about it. What group of
6:39people would have an incentive to write
6:42about suffering? I'd say people who are
6:46exiled maybe like in Babylon. And so by
6:51the time Jesus comes on the scene, Jesus
6:54is speaking in full-blown Aramaic. Okay.
6:57Hebrew, like all language, right?
6:59Language changes. So if I handed you
7:02some some Shakespeare, you'd be able to
7:05you a you probably wouldn't even be able
7:06to read it, but b you'd realize, yeah,
7:09this is old English, right? So when
7:12people say old English, that's
7:14indicative of the time period in which
7:17that English was written. If I hand
7:20something to you and it says the word
7:22Google, you you'd locate it in modern
7:25history, right? because no one would
7:28have the word Google like in a in a
7:31document referencing an internet search
7:34browser in the 1800s. Like that's you
7:37would know like I don't know about this
7:40like if you saw a letter from George
7:42Washington and and he referenced
7:44searching the internet on Google or if
7:46he referenced Reddit or Twitter or X or
7:51Facebook, you'd be like I don't think
7:52George Washington wrote this. Right? So
7:55we understand in our own modern society
7:59that we can date things based on the
8:02words or how old is the English. Okay.
8:06So the Hebrew that we have here is not
8:10old. So what we have is this mismatch.
8:14The time period is very old. Job's life,
8:18his lifestyle, his friends, the word
8:22Elshadai, like calling God Elshadai, all
8:25signal a this is old old like like
8:30Abraham old. But then the style of
8:34Hebrew that we have and the Aramaic
8:37influence that we can see when we
8:39actually study the text and obviously
8:42that's not possible to do when you're
8:44reading it in English, okay? you
8:46actually have to like read the original
8:48manuscripts. You go, this looks like it
8:51comes out of the exilic or post- exilic
8:54period. Okay, so I'll kind of read a
8:57little bit about that just from my own
8:59notes. A lot of scholars are going to
9:01place the writing of Job and remember
9:03it's easy to write something in 2025
9:07about George Washington, right? like you
9:11can write something today about
9:14something happening in an ancient time.
9:17Okay, so that's probably what's going on
9:19in Job. 5ifth to 3rd century BC in Judah
9:22during the second temple period. This
9:24later time period would explain the
9:25greater Aramaic influence and in
9:28particular some phrases which appear to
9:30be very Persian. For example, the list
9:33of officials in chapter 3:14-15
9:36and the phrase covering the mouth in
9:3829:9 and 40:5. Perhaps most of all, this
9:43fits with the use of the title Satan or
9:46Satan or the Satan. Only two other books
9:50in the Old Testament use that title.
9:52Chronicles and Zechariah, both of which
9:55were written during the Persian period.
9:58Okay, so there is a bunch of clues,
10:01okay, that this is written later. Now,
10:05there's one other argument that instead
10:07of this being from the fifth to the 3rd
10:10century, it could be from the sixth
10:11century. Okay? And that's 6th century
10:14B.C.E. right after the fall of
10:16Jerusalem. This could have been written
10:18in exile and Babylon Babylon as an
10:20attempt to wrestle with the suffering
10:22due to the fall of Jerusalem and the
10:24exile as a whole. There are some
10:26similarities to lamentations. Okay, the
10:29book of lamentations which is also
10:31written at this time in the Babylonian
10:32influence may explain the Aramaic
10:35influence. Okay, so what we probably
10:37have is something that was written
10:42later. Okay, but with an older setting
10:47for the characters, which is normal,
10:49right? That's normal. All right, next.
10:52kind of just like, okay, we don't know
10:54who the author is, but there's a couple
10:56things we can say. The author is a
10:58brilliant poet. Job contains around
11:021,020 lines of Hebrew poetry with some
11:05of the best and most complex examples in
11:07all scripture. There are, for example,
11:11over 60 triple parallelisms in the book.
11:14There are also 28 different speeches in
11:16the book. two cycles of si six six
11:19speeches in dialogue, one cycle of five
11:23speeches in dialogue and then three sets
11:25of larger monologues. It also includes
11:29kayazms, interchanges and all manner of
11:32literary devices like the person who
11:34wrote this is a beast of a writer. Last,
11:40the author has a wide vocabulary and
11:44knowledge of the world in its mythology.
11:47There are five distinct words for lion
11:50used in chapter 4:es 10-11. Animals
11:53described in great detail in chapters 38
11:55and 39. 13 different words for precious
11:58gems in chapter 28 alone. Job also
12:01contains information of different
12:03weather patterns, star constellations,
12:06mining practices, hunting and trapping,
12:08caravan training routes, and a healthy
12:11general knowledge of past history and
12:13culture. Like, whoever wrote this is a
12:18genius of a person. Family, the wait is
12:21over. My brand new book, Crushing Chaos,
12:24is out now and available everywhere
12:28books are sold. Literally today, I
12:31walked into a Barnes & Noble and I
12:33signed a bunch of copies at a physical
12:35location. So, you can grab this book at
12:39a physical Barnes & Noble or you can go
12:41to a Books a Million or Amazon or
12:43anywhere books are [music] sold and grab
12:45a copy. If you enjoy reading the Bible
12:49from an ancient perspective, if you
12:51understand that the beauty of scripture
12:54is actually knowing it in context, then
12:56you'll love this book. And if there's
12:59any chaos in your personal life, I think
13:01that reading the Bible from an ancient
13:04perspective can actually help to crush
13:06the chaos in your life. I think this
13:08book is going to be a New York Times
13:09bestseller. I really do. I think we
13:12wrote a good one. I think you should get
13:14a copy today. All right, back to the
13:17episode. Let's dive into just some nerdy
13:19nuggets. I don't have a lot of time left
13:21on this episode and I want to dive into
13:24some nerdy nuggets. Let's actually go to
13:27my latest book, Crushing Chaos, cuz I
13:30think that this is helpful. Now, in
13:32order to do this, we got to have to get
13:34out of chapters 11 to 14 for just a
13:36moment. And we're going to go to chapter
13:389. Okay, there's this little moment in
13:40chapter 9 that is kind of actual context
13:44for something that's going to happen in
13:45the New Testament. And I want you to be
13:47aware of it. Okay, chapter 9 says this.
13:49Chapter 9 verse 9, sorry, chapter 9:8,
13:53it says, "He alone stretches out the
13:55heavens and treads on the waves of the
13:58sea." So Yahweh treads on the waves of
14:01the sea. That means a couple things.
14:03Number one, it means that he conquers
14:06the chaos. Okay? Cuz he's he can walk on
14:08the water. But it also means that when
14:11the New Testament describes Jesus as
14:13walking on the water, it is saying
14:15something about Jesus's deity. But if
14:19you don't know that, one of the things
14:21that Job teaches us is that Yahweh alone
14:24stretches out the heavens and treads on
14:26the waves of the sea. He alone can do
14:28that. So when the gospel writers are
14:30showing us a Jesus that's walking on the
14:33sea, it's actually a call back to Job
14:369:9 to show us instead of telling us
14:40that Jesus is a divine figure. Verse 9
14:43and 11 says this, "When he passes me, I
14:47cannot see him. When he goes by, I
14:50cannot perceive him." So this is Job
14:52talking about Yahweh. When he passes me,
14:57I cannot see him. When he goes by, I
15:01can't perceive him. This is essentially
15:04Job talking about the transcendent
15:07otherness, the holiness of God that he's
15:11far off. He passes by me and it seems
15:14like we're about to relate, but uh he
15:17eludes me. Okay? Because he's other than
15:20he's holy. So, this is helpful. Okay?
15:24Because in Mark
15:266:48,
15:28Jesus not only is walking on the water,
15:30but Mark gives us this tiny little
15:33Easter egg. Mark says this. Jesus
15:36intended to pass by them. That only
15:38makes sense if you know Job. Who passed
15:41by Job on the water? Yahweh did. But did
15:44Jesus actually pass them by? No, he
15:46didn't. He stops and he actually gets in
15:49the boat. Because what Mark is saying is
15:52that Jesus is both divine and human. I'm
15:54going to read a little bit out of this
15:56from Crushing Chaos. This is on page 219
15:59of Crushing Chaos. It says this. Mark
16:01tells us that Jesus is about to walk
16:03right past his own disciples. Such an
16:05odd and seemingly insignificant detail.
16:08Mark 6:48 records, "He saw the disciples
16:11straining at the oars because the wind
16:13was against them. Shortly before dawn,
16:15he went out to them walking on the lake.
16:18He was about to pass by them. What?
16:21About to pass by? Why doesn't he walk
16:25out on the water to help them? This is
16:27beyond confusing. Well, it's baffling
16:30until you read Job chapter 9, where Job
16:33is talking about the awesome wonder of
16:34Yahweh. In this passage, Job says all
16:37kinds of things that demonstrate the
16:39nature of God's divinity. Yahweh moves
16:42mountains and shakes the earth. Yahweh
16:44controls the sun and the stars. He is
16:45the maker of the bear and Orion the
16:48pletes and the constellations of the
16:50south. Most of this chapter in Job is
16:52about the wonder and power of the
16:54creator of the universe. It's humbling
16:57and all inspiring content to read. The
16:59entire list proves the divinity of
17:01Yahweh. For he's the only being in the
17:04universe who can perform such wonders.
17:06And in the list of all the
17:08nature-defying things Yahweh has the
17:10power to do, we find this. He alone
17:13stretches out the heavens and treads on
17:15the waves of the sea. When he passes me,
17:17I cannot see him. When he goes by, I
17:21cannot perceive him. Obviously, we just
17:23read that. This is classic chaos
17:26language. Yahweh alone walks on the
17:28waves of the tome. To is the Hebrew word
17:32for the deep. Okay. [snorts] So since
17:35Jesus is walking on the waves in the
17:37pages of the gospels, both Matthew and
17:39Mark are telling us Jesus is God without
17:42telling us Jesus is God. Like good
17:45storytellers, they are portraying Jesus
17:47as divine. But we have an odd and
17:49interesting twist. In Job 9, Yahweh
17:52treads all into home. Yet he walks right
17:54past Job and Job is unable to perceive
17:56him. In Job, Yahweh is not only all
17:59powerful and awesome, but also holy,
18:01slightly unapproachable and definitely
18:03unrelatable. The entire Old Testament
18:05points to the truth that Yahweh is
18:07nothing like his creation. He is holy
18:10because he is indeed holy other. He is H
18:13O L Y. He is holy. H O L Y because he is
18:17indeed holy. Wh H O L L Y other. Mark
18:21alludes to this passage in Job with the
18:23subtlety of an artist. However, Jesus
18:26doesn't walk past the disciples.
18:28Instead, the disciples cry out to him.
18:31And Mark says he immediately responds
18:32and climbs into the boat and the winds
18:35die down. Yahweh walks on chaos and so
18:37does Jesus. This is Jesus's divinity on
18:40full display. Yahweh walks past Job, but
18:44Jesus doesn't. This is his humanity on
18:48full display. Fully God, fully man, both
18:51displayed in the same story for those
18:53with eyes to see and ears to hear. That
18:56is from page 219 and 220 of Crushing
19:00Chaos. And I hope that that gives some
19:03helpful context for what's happening in
19:05Job chapter 9. All right, let me give
19:07you some quick another quick little
19:09thing from Job 9 and then we'll get into
19:12our our last little nerdy nuggets for
19:16chapters 11- 14 and then I'll give you
19:18Thomas truth. Okay. Uh it says this in
19:21Job 9:33. This is such a plug for Jesus.
19:25It says, "If only there were someone to
19:28mediate between us, someone to bring us
19:31together." Oh, can you describe Jesus in
19:34a sentence? Yeah. Jesus is the one to
19:36mediate between us and God to bring us
19:40together. And I'm going to highlight
19:41that one. Man, that's a good verse right
19:44there. All right, last little bit. Okay,
19:46Job 13. Okay, Job 13:3
19:50are pretty much the heart of of what Job
19:54wants. But I desire to speak to the
19:56Almighty. That's El Shadai, by the way.
19:59To the Almighty. And to argue my case
20:01with God. Like just let me argue my case
20:05with God. Now, what we're going to see
20:08is this is law court like language case.
20:13Okay? Job is defending his innocence.
20:17The Satan figure is seen as a
20:20prosecutor. Like, so whenever we use law
20:24court language with atonement theology,
20:27that's not weird. That's not odd. Like,
20:30that's actually very, very, very
20:31biblical. All right. The heart of Job's
20:34desire is not just in verse three, but
20:36also in verse 15. Says, "Though he slay
20:39me, yet will I hope in him. I will
20:40surely defend my ways to his face."
20:44Okay, so this is what Job wants. Job
20:47wants to talk to God. Job's like, "I
20:50gotta I gotta I gotta plead my case. I
20:53need to go to the Supreme Court." We got
20:54to argue this till we get to the Supreme
20:56Court, man. Like, I'm not guilty. Like,
21:00I am innocent. And this is our Thomas
21:02Truth for the day. Okay. Comes out of
21:04Job 13:5.
21:07If only you would be altogether silent.
21:09For you, that would be wisdom. Hey, no
21:12one would know YOU'RE STUPID IF YOU JUST
21:14SHUT UP is is kind of like the southern
21:16way of saying that same thing. But
21:18that's a good verse, isn't it? Job 13:5.
21:21If only you would be altogether silent.
21:25For you, that would be wisdom. And
21:27honestly, for a lot of us, that would be
21:28wise to talk less. Seriously, like a lot
21:32of us, foolishness is multiplied because
21:34we talk so much. And I even have to
21:36learn this as a pastor. Sometimes people
21:39come to me with difficult situations and
21:41wisdom is not giving them an answer.
21:42Wisdom is actually found in talking less
21:45and letting them wrestle and letting
21:46them figure it out. There are definitely
21:48times I'm learning this as a church
21:49planter, as a pastor, where people have
21:51questions and I know the answer. I know
21:54what they should do. And wisdom isn't
21:57saying the right answer. Wisdom
22:00sometimes is found in letting people
22:02discover the right answer on their own.
22:04It's kind of like if you break the shell
22:06of an egg for a little bird, the muscles
22:09that they need to develop don't get
22:10developed and they can't fly because you
22:13rob them of an opportunity to struggle.
22:15And so often as pastors, we do the same
22:18thing. We provide answers for people,
22:20but it's through the mental struggle of
22:23getting to clarity that they actually
22:25find God and realize that they know how
22:29to wrestle through stuff. I've watched a
22:31lot of young adults deconstruct and
22:33there's this part of you that just wants
22:35to just a argue, but b just like give
22:38them the answers. But the reality is
22:41that if they're in their early 20s and
22:43they're deconstructing, you got to let
22:45them figure it out. Because once they do
22:48figure it out, then their faith becomes
22:50theirs. And that's not just true for
22:52Job. That's true for you. That's true
22:54for me. That's true for all of us. It's
22:56a timeless truth. Tomorrow we got day
22:593:16. We're going to be in Job chapters
23:0115:1,6, and 17. It's going to be
23:03awesome. I hope to see you here. Same
23:06time, same place. If you're on a streak,
23:08I'm proud of you. Even if you're not on
23:10a streak, I love you. I'll see you
23:12tomorrow. Peace. Thanks so much for
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