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David Anderson Interview at The Breakfast Club Power 105.1 (04/06/2016) — Transcript

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  1. 0:00[Music]
  2. 0:01you're watching The Breakfast
  3. 0:02[Music]
  4. 0:06Club yep it's the world's most dangerous
  5. 0:08Morning Show to Breakfast Club
  6. 0:09Charlamagne the god Angela ye and got my
  7. 0:11guy here I know him is Taz daddy yes sir
  8. 0:15but you know not that he's the author
  9. 0:16and all that good stuff here you go
  10. 0:18David
  11. 0:19Anderson up my brother thank you for
  12. 0:22having me man I'm happy to be here I'm
  13. 0:23very happy to be here right pitch close
  14. 0:25upsell repeat is the name of the book MH
  15. 0:28now I was noticing you were about the
  16. 0:30importance of cold calls a lot which is
  17. 0:32something a lot of people don't do right
  18. 0:34mhm well the thing about a cold call is
  19. 0:37that if you can get somebody when
  20. 0:39they're not thinking about it think
  21. 0:41about how many times in radio throughout
  22. 0:42your careers you've had to go to like a
  23. 0:43car lot or something and nobody will
  24. 0:46ever you know say oh you know what this
  25. 0:48morning I heard Charlamagne down there
  26. 0:50at at Piper Ford and I'm going to go get
  27. 0:52a car it doesn't happen right so you
  28. 0:53have to convince people you know that
  29. 0:56this is something that they need and the
  30. 0:57best way to do that is to catch them off
  31. 0:58guard you know when You' been approached
  32. 1:00by somebody you were waking up thinking
  33. 1:01about that guy who you decided to date
  34. 1:03it just happened I'm an aid I'm an avid
  35. 1:05consumer I realized like I'm going to
  36. 1:07give you an example of how uh cold call
  37. 1:09worked for me kind of I was on Facebook
  38. 1:12and I just bought my house and I was
  39. 1:13like I really want to build a walk-in
  40. 1:14closet but I didn't know where to start
  41. 1:16to look for somebody who could do
  42. 1:17something like that right somebody just
  43. 1:19randomly emailed me on Facebook and was
  44. 1:21like Hey I see you bought a house you
  45. 1:23know I did uh I have this company that I
  46. 1:25work with and they build closets so if
  47. 1:27you need anything you know and I
  48. 1:28immediately went and looked and said
  49. 1:30okay oh they did a great job they had
  50. 1:32their stuff posted online and I actually
  51. 1:34use them they did a lot of stuff in my
  52. 1:35house that's what's up man you know you
  53. 1:37got to take advantage of the
  54. 1:38opportunities and most sales people run
  55. 1:40from Cod calls but I would say 85% of
  56. 1:43the money that I've made in sales has
  57. 1:44come from Cod calling right I still Co
  58. 1:46call now now I haven't got a chance to
  59. 1:48read my brother's book yet but you know
  60. 1:49as long as I've known Taz he's been a
  61. 1:51motivational speaking type of guy so is
  62. 1:54this about business it's about business
  63. 1:56but it's also about life okay
  64. 1:58everybody's a salesperson um I'm going
  65. 2:00to tell Angela the story you know the
  66. 2:01story so we're uh we're at the conclave
  67. 2:0330 under 30 you know we got the awards
  68. 2:05charlot manne came late but that's all
  69. 2:07right uh that night I had my daughter
  70. 2:09was born that weekend yeah that's right
  71. 2:11so that night we uh we decided to hit
  72. 2:13the clubs cuz it's Minneapolis it's in
  73. 2:15the summer we're like well there's got
  74. 2:16to be something to do we want going to
  75. 2:17sit in the hotel so we go and there was
  76. 2:19a line like wrapped around the block and
  77. 2:21I looked at Charlamagne Charlamagne
  78. 2:23looked at me and at the time he was
  79. 2:24still with Wendy and I said I got this
  80. 2:27so I said excuse me uh find me your
  81. 2:29manager and the bouncer goes gets the
  82. 2:31manager and I say look do you know who
  83. 2:33that is oh God no I said see to God I'm
  84. 2:37like he with Wendy Williams do you want
  85. 2:38these kind of problems why do you have
  86. 2:39him standing in this line are you
  87. 2:41crazy are you absolutely I said that's
  88. 2:43utterly disrespectful t stop stop please
  89. 2:47I'm sorry I'm sorry boss I got worked up
  90. 2:49and they let all it was like five of us
  91. 2:50in there it's hurricane D they let us
  92. 2:52all in there we got to the rooftops we
  93. 2:54drinking yeah George cook and we were
  94. 2:56drinking Saka lemonade on them all night
  95. 2:58wow that's called selling that's selling
  96. 3:01word up you've always been a good
  97. 3:02salesperson now was that part of
  98. 3:04charlamagne's um routine to be no no
  99. 3:06stop stop stop it's okay it's okay well
  100. 3:07you got to understand the first time I
  101. 3:09ever met that oh you didn't know each we
  102. 3:12we we had spoken like online because
  103. 3:14when I heard uh when I heard the Buffy
  104. 3:15the Body situation so you're going back
  105. 3:17what 12 years something crazy like that
  106. 3:19yeah like 04 yeah you know I reached out
  107. 3:21to him on MySpace so tell you how long
  108. 3:23the body situation I interviewed her in
  109. 3:25Columbia South Carolina and just told
  110. 3:26her she needs to get her life together
  111. 3:28and you know what what is she going to
  112. 3:30do it herself when her body deteriorates
  113. 3:32and she told me I would never be and I
  114. 3:34told her my mouth is going to get her
  115. 3:35far than her butt so I think I was
  116. 3:37accurate but and it's true so I I HTE
  117. 3:40him up like yo I hear you going to Wendy
  118. 3:42yes said that's an awesome opportunity
  119. 3:43I'm also graduate with the Wendy
  120. 3:44Williams School of Technology and um you
  121. 3:47know we've been talking ever since and
  122. 3:49that was the first time we ever been in
  123. 3:50the same space but we we followed
  124. 3:52similar paths so you know when you when
  125. 3:55you know people in your tribe you you
  126. 3:56know how it is you know see Taz used to
  127. 3:58he had a radio background you used to be
  128. 4:00a producer for the Ricky Smiley Morning
  129. 4:03Show absolutely and that didn't end too
  130. 4:05well no it did not what happen Okay so
  131. 4:09I'mma throw the story for the last time
  132. 4:11um it was a situation and let me say
  133. 4:13this Ricky Smiley is somebody's father
  134. 4:14Ricky Smiley is a very good human being
  135. 4:16if it wasn't for Ricky Smiley I would
  136. 4:17not be sitting here um okay that was the
  137. 4:20disclaimer so go ahead all right so the
  138. 4:22bottom line is this disrespect no
  139. 4:24disrespect but here's the situation and
  140. 4:26any producer worth hisa doing a
  141. 4:28syndicated show has two jobs number one
  142. 4:30produce the show number two be a buffer
  143. 4:32between management and the talent so
  144. 4:34management is pulling me one way because
  145. 4:35you know how Ricky can be so Rick is
  146. 4:38pulling me another way and this is also
  147. 4:39one of my best friends so I'm caught in
  148. 4:42the middle and I'm trying to do
  149. 4:43everything I can to help save my friend
  150. 4:46and so at that point they're they're in
  151. 4:48my ear you got to do this you got to do
  152. 4:49that so I'm telling him Rick this is
  153. 4:51what I need this that and the third and
  154. 4:52one day it just it got out of hand he
  155. 4:54misunderstood he started saying some
  156. 4:56things and and and every once in a while
  157. 4:57you can pop off I'll take that that's
  158. 4:58the job of the producer
  159. 5:00but ain't going to be too many physical
  160. 5:01threats so um that was I Ricky could
  161. 5:04take you bro no I don't think so either
  162. 5:06but he believed he could you know
  163. 5:07because I'm a genuinely nice guy I don't
  164. 5:09I don't get I don't get riled up but at
  165. 5:11that particular point you know it was
  166. 5:13like the Unstoppable Force meeting the
  167. 5:15immovable object and if he knew what I
  168. 5:17knew he'd be thanking me right now so I
  169. 5:20I fell on my sword for him and it is
  170. 5:22what it is I'm as he ran through since
  171. 5:24then um let's see just the ones you mean
  172. 5:27after me after I got him in the
  173. 5:28syndication
  174. 5:33I think four damn you know so it wasn't
  175. 5:36you I will say this right and Ricky
  176. 5:38Smiley taught me this he said if you
  177. 5:40look at a situation and things keep
  178. 5:41changing and things keep changing who's
  179. 5:43the common denominator in all those
  180. 5:45situations so there's that um I will say
  181. 5:49um I've never met Claudia Jordan but she
  182. 5:50was strum in my pain with her fingers
  183. 5:52yeah you know what I mean it it was like
  184. 5:54wow yeah you could understand how
  185. 5:56difficult it could be absolutely but
  186. 5:58that's not to say that man isn't a good
  187. 5:59man and I mean how can I complain that's
  188. 6:01not the best person to work for no I
  189. 6:03would not work for him again but I do
  190. 6:05miss my friend and how can I be mad I
  191. 6:07got an nnr award a 30 under 30 award um
  192. 6:10I put him in a syndication in 30 plus
  193. 6:12markets you know that reality show he
  194. 6:14now has we did the pilot that was
  195. 6:16something that we conceived right so how
  196. 6:18can I be mad at that I'm happy for that
  197. 6:20man word is that one of the reasons you
  198. 6:22decided to say you know what let me go
  199. 6:23ahead and be a full-fledged entrepreneur
  200. 6:24cuz the radio business is very unstable
  201. 6:27yes um that and I have a wife and two
  202. 6:29children right you know and after a
  203. 6:31while when your your guys are very lucky
  204. 6:34because you came out and went in meaning
  205. 6:36you had a situation like I did with
  206. 6:38Wendy and you had satellite so people
  207. 6:40look at you as an outsider as opposed to
  208. 6:42somebody who comes through radio does
  209. 6:44not like to cultivate talent and grow
  210. 6:46them up you and I have had this
  211. 6:47conversation a million one times you
  212. 6:49know this man created the boom format
  213. 6:50they'll never give him credit for it but
  214. 6:52it's one of those things where I can't
  215. 6:54sit around and do what everybody wants
  216. 6:56me to do the way they want me to be
  217. 6:57creative so i' rather on my own and do
  218. 7:00what I need to do you know and I got to
  219. 7:02say honestly thank you to Doc witer for
  220. 7:04for giving me an opportunity myc love
  221. 7:06him to death and if he called me today
  222. 7:07I'd come back but other than that you
  223. 7:09know I want to be able to to mark my own
  224. 7:11path so right and you talked about uh
  225. 7:13your experience and your background in
  226. 7:15sales working for ADT and selling a home
  227. 7:18security at first and it was interesting
  228. 7:20because you really talked a lot about
  229. 7:22strategies that you have to use in order
  230. 7:24to get people to want to uh you know
  231. 7:27let's talk about the the whole entire
  232. 7:29from beginning to end the pitch the
  233. 7:31close the upsell and the repeat all
  234. 7:33right so basically when you're looking
  235. 7:34at anything that you're trying to sell
  236. 7:36you have to find your target audience
  237. 7:38and then once you find that person you
  238. 7:39have to find their pain and once you
  239. 7:40know what their pain is then you can
  240. 7:42pitch them effectively you know like you
  241. 7:45don't ever want to go someplace and your
  242. 7:47nails chip so if I've got something
  243. 7:48that's going to smooth out your nails
  244. 7:49real quick while you're on the way to
  245. 7:50the club then I've solved your problem I
  246. 7:52got that pain it sells itself right you
  247. 7:54know closing something you're always
  248. 7:55being closed you know if you go to the
  249. 7:57gas station to put 10 on pump one and
  250. 7:59then you go in there just to put down
  251. 8:00your $10 bill and you say oh look
  252. 8:02there's uh there's chips you know
  253. 8:04there's all these things you know so
  254. 8:05there's the upsell part of it somebody's
  255. 8:07always trying to close you and trying to
  256. 8:08upsell you and but what most people do
  257. 8:11wrong my mother makes a better
  258. 8:13cheeseburger than McDonald's ever could
  259. 8:15but McDonald's has a better process than
  260. 8:16my mother could ever create so the
  261. 8:19process of what branding or the process
  262. 8:20of branding the process of making a
  263. 8:22cheeseburger you've had a cheeseburger
  264. 8:23mon quarter from McDonald's you've had
  265. 8:25one in in Manhattan from McDonald's
  266. 8:26tastes the same right yeah that's a
  267. 8:28process and that process is repeated and
  268. 8:29duplicable so once you're able to have
  269. 8:32something down and you work out those
  270. 8:34fine tuned things find your Rhythm
  271. 8:36become who you are in that sales process
  272. 8:39you're able to repeat that over and over
  273. 8:41again you know a lot of sales people get
  274. 8:42lucky once but can't follow it up or
  275. 8:44even in radio you see salespeople and
  276. 8:46they do this they have packages here's
  277. 8:48this here's that package go do that that
  278. 8:49doesn't help the that doesn't help the
  279. 8:51customer right so you got to help the
  280. 8:52customer before you can help yourself so
  281. 8:54what if there's no pain what if you're
  282. 8:55how can you sell to somebody if they
  283. 8:56don't have a
  284. 8:57pain then you treat them like like the
  285. 8:59devil treats human beings you sell their
  286. 9:02desires bottom line you know there's no
  287. 9:05pain Angel is pretty without makeup but
  288. 9:07there's a certain brand I'm sure she
  289. 9:08uses and she's happy with are you pretty
  290. 9:10without
  291. 9:13makeup I am not Lord Jesus let me no
  292. 9:16she's not Angela actually is pretty
  293. 9:17without make you know so that's just
  294. 9:19what it is if there's no pain you you
  295. 9:21you appearal to their desire you appeal
  296. 9:22to their urgency you know and then
  297. 9:24sometimes you have to create the pain
  298. 9:26you know like uh one of the things that
  299. 9:28I like to sell a lot are dig products um
  300. 9:30so someone says oh well I've already got
  301. 9:32my SEO and my website is great and I'm
  302. 9:34telling them that they need to be
  303. 9:36registered on like 30 different search
  304. 9:38engines to up their SEO and they're like
  305. 9:40well I don't understand that I said well
  306. 9:42let me ask you this if your toilet was
  307. 9:44leaking and you needed a plumber you'd
  308. 9:45get one right well yeah but would you
  309. 9:47get one right now no but I'm telling you
  310. 9:49right now your toilet is leaking and
  311. 9:50here's why you can't argue with that all
  312. 9:53right so you know that's what it comes
  313. 9:54down to it's interesting because some
  314. 9:55things are kind of aggressive that you
  315. 9:57talk about in this book also
  316. 9:59is an aggressive guy little bit in one
  317. 10:02instance you talk about you know
  318. 10:03normally what people say when they're
  319. 10:05undecided is okay well I just have to
  320. 10:07check with my husband or check with my
  321. 10:09wife first before I can respond that's a
  322. 10:10cop out people sales people step into
  323. 10:12that when they're saying that let me
  324. 10:13tell you something my wife knows if she
  325. 10:15wants something I'm not going to object
  326. 10:18to it and if my wife and I were talking
  327. 10:20about whatever it is if I come into your
  328. 10:21showroom um obviously have had that
  329. 10:24conversation already so I wouldn't do
  330. 10:26anything that she would object to I know
  331. 10:28my wife I know what she would go for
  332. 10:29what she wouldn't doing that is just a
  333. 10:31deflection of smoke screen because
  334. 10:33they're scared to pay that money they're
  335. 10:34scared to commit you got to call them
  336. 10:35out on it sign here and here but isn't
  337. 10:37it a respect thing though you want your
  338. 10:38wife to be like hey I'm about to spend
  339. 10:40this money yeah absolutely and and I do
  340. 10:42agree you should but that's why most
  341. 10:44contracts when it comes to sales people
  342. 10:45you know there there's a period of time
  343. 10:47where you can get out of it but you know
  344. 10:49sign a paperwork and we'll deal with the
  345. 10:50rest later you know now you went to
  346. 10:52Temple right I did what was your mayj
  347. 10:53temple uh broadcasting
  348. 10:55telecommunications and mass media with a
  349. 10:56minor in business do do you ever feel
  350. 10:58like do you say yourself I wish I would
  351. 10:59have majored in business no because I
  352. 11:01took business courses I had I I tested
  353. 11:03out of a lot of the communications
  354. 11:05classes cuz I was doing radio since I
  355. 11:07was nine wow so they were graded on C
  356. 11:09like we got to get Anderson out of here
  357. 11:10so I started taking B School classes and
  358. 11:12so I I don't regret that but there are
  359. 11:15things in life that business school will
  360. 11:16never teach you right you know so I've
  361. 11:18learned more as a businessman than I
  362. 11:20ever did in any business course I've
  363. 11:21ever taken so no I'm happy are you um
  364. 11:23upset about Bill Cosby being a temple
  365. 11:26alumni well you see I knew that was
  366. 11:28coming
  367. 11:30here's the thing right I look at I look
  368. 11:32at Steven Collins I look at um Woody
  369. 11:36Allen I look at um all these horrible
  370. 11:39people who have done horrible things and
  371. 11:41they still have their stuff in
  372. 11:42syndication on Netflix everything else
  373. 11:44um black people love R Kelly love him
  374. 11:47yeah come on man he peed on a little
  375. 11:49girl he peed on a little girl and he
  376. 11:50married Aaliyah let's not let's not run
  377. 11:52over that he married Leah he got with uh
  378. 11:55allegedly got to be careful allegedly
  379. 11:57George Daniel's daughter when she was
  380. 11:58under age this man had has a problem and
  381. 12:00still millions of record sold I'll never
  382. 12:02forget the rep from Jive told me by the
  383. 12:04time this tape drops by the time all
  384. 12:06this happens everybody's going to love
  385. 12:07him and forget about it and I I said
  386. 12:09there's no way but that's what so when
  387. 12:11it comes to Bill Cosby who cares about
  388. 12:15you know what it does his art his art
  389. 12:17should still be left alone maybe if he
  390. 12:19had new art that was just as on the
  391. 12:21level of The Cosby Show in a different
  392. 12:22world may people change and I also do
  393. 12:24feel like R Kelly has been tarnished
  394. 12:26forever from that situation he's
  395. 12:28definitely the but of jokes and I do
  396. 12:30feel like his career isn't what it could
  397. 12:31have been let me ask you this ye real
  398. 12:33real rap has Doc Winer ever had a
  399. 12:35conversation with y'all about pulling R
  400. 12:36Kelly
  401. 12:38records then he's not damaged his
  402. 12:40reputation who cares he don't do you
  403. 12:42care what people think about you yeah
  404. 12:44you liy no you don't I mean I do if if I
  405. 12:47was running around peeing on
  406. 12:52girls anybody yeah but other than that
  407. 12:55no I don't care no not at all okay so in
  408. 12:57your opinion you think everybody should
  409. 13:00you think that R Kelly should be treated
  410. 13:01the way and all these other people
  411. 13:03should be treated the way that Bill
  412. 13:04Cosby is or you think that Bill Cosby
  413. 13:05should
  414. 13:06be I feel everybody I I think the
  415. 13:09punishment should fit the crime if
  416. 13:10you're a rapist you're a rapist if
  417. 13:12you're a uh statutory rapist you're a
  418. 13:14statutory rapist if you've committed a
  419. 13:16sex crime you should not be protected
  420. 13:18from that but you need to go into a
  421. 13:21court of law and let the process happen
  422. 13:23right that hasn't happened with Bill
  423. 13:24Cosby and that is not fair and then
  424. 13:26people just coming out the Woodworks o
  425. 13:27me o me o me like like with the Tiger
  426. 13:29Wood situation you know some folks are
  427. 13:31looking for a Payday some people and and
  428. 13:34as a victim of sexual assault myself I
  429. 13:36understand you know that pain and I'm
  430. 13:38not belittling it in any way shape or
  431. 13:40form but how was that fear to Malcolm
  432. 13:41Jamal Warner how was that feir to
  433. 13:42Felicia Rashad or anybody who was on
  434. 13:44that cast show you see what I'm saying
  435. 13:46so no I think everybody should be
  436. 13:48treated the same way how how how have
  437. 13:50all these experiences uh affected you in
  438. 13:52business cuz like you said you said
  439. 13:53you've been molested do you have a
  440. 13:55certain empathy when you're trying to
  441. 13:57sell something to people cuz you don't
  442. 13:58want to force things no I don't believe
  443. 14:00in forcing anything on anybody you
  444. 14:01shouldn't have to force anything I mean
  445. 14:02Chris Rock said it best drug dealers
  446. 14:04offer drugs no matter what I'm selling
  447. 14:05I'm selling drugs I want you hooked on
  448. 14:07whatever it is I have so yeah I come
  449. 14:09with a certain amount of empathy with
  450. 14:10everything that I do you know but I'm
  451. 14:12still a man you know and I still have
  452. 14:14things that I have to get done so I
  453. 14:16never knew you got molested when you
  454. 14:17were young it's not something I've
  455. 14:19really ever talked about that happened
  456. 14:20to me when I was eight wow yeah it
  457. 14:21happened to me when I was 11 through I
  458. 14:25would say 14 J same same woman um I will
  459. 14:28say that that uh that person is a
  460. 14:31relative um but not by Blood yeah for me
  461. 14:34that's for me it was my cousin's ex-wife
  462. 14:36yeah only I never said nothing because I
  463. 14:37enjoyed it yeah and that's the thing
  464. 14:40because you know you know because for me
  465. 14:41in my case it was a woman um you know
  466. 14:43because your body it's a physical
  467. 14:45response to stimuli it's not of course
  468. 14:47you're going to it feels good but that
  469. 14:49doesn't you didn't have the choice in
  470. 14:51the matter I didn't have the choice in
  471. 14:53the matter we weren't adults enough to
  472. 14:55make those adult decisions and that's
  473. 14:56wrong to take a child's innocence well
  474. 14:58yeah it's a disgusting it's brutally
  475. 15:00disgusting unless you look at the bright
  476. 15:02side and say hey I was getting head at
  477. 15:05eight all right has no bright side it
  478. 15:08really isn't disgusting now you also
  479. 15:10said you should never cancel a meeting I
  480. 15:12agree with that not at all I don't care
  481. 15:13what happens I got here in time didn't I
  482. 15:15yeah I don't care I don't care what
  483. 15:16happens you know because what it shows
  484. 15:18is that you don't care regardless of
  485. 15:20what happened unless you got hit by
  486. 15:22meteorite bring your ass to where you
  487. 15:23say you going to bring your ass to all
  488. 15:24right you know because people people
  489. 15:26will lose respect for you and that's the
  490. 15:27last thing you want and people will
  491. 15:29cancel if you're 5 minutes late
  492. 15:30absolutely I've I've canceled for 2
  493. 15:32minutes because you don't respect my
  494. 15:34time you know what time is you're in
  495. 15:36radio right time is everything all right
  496. 15:38up you know y'all told me I got half an
  497. 15:40hour I got half an hour I'm not staying
  498. 15:4131 minutes that's what it is you have to
  499. 15:44respect time and people who don't
  500. 15:45respect time don't respect money I
  501. 15:47always tell people that it is really
  502. 15:48important to be on time for things
  503. 15:50because I have some friends that are
  504. 15:51always late for everything and I always
  505. 15:53say that if you're not on time that
  506. 15:54means you don't respect the other
  507. 15:55person's time and you act like it's not
  508. 15:57that important absolutely you know uh
  509. 15:59for me it's one of those things where if
  510. 16:01I have friends like that I lie to them I
  511. 16:03tell I literally tell them it starts an
  512. 16:05hour ahead of time because then you hear
  513. 16:06you going to be mad at me but we
  514. 16:07drinking and we're all I'm not going to
  515. 16:08lie I have to do that for lip service
  516. 16:10the girls come late every single time
  517. 16:12and they'll be like an hour late so now
  518. 16:14I have to tell them an hour ahead but
  519. 16:15now they now they come an hour later
  520. 16:18knowing that I told them an hour ahead
  521. 16:20is is bad well now they know your secret
  522. 16:22now what advice would you give the new
  523. 16:23startup owners um first thing I would
  524. 16:25say is Let's Not Be janky you know get
  525. 16:27yourself a business license got and stop
  526. 16:30trying to do everything all at you know
  527. 16:32this the Field of Dreams mentality
  528. 16:34that's movie stuff you have to be very
  529. 16:36uh Concrete in what it is that you want
  530. 16:38to do as a startup and then you want to
  531. 16:40make sure that you have enough funding
  532. 16:41to actually make some things happen so
  533. 16:43that means you got to put together a
  534. 16:44business plan and beg for some money or
  535. 16:45try and get an appearance on Shark Tank
  536. 16:47do that you know that that would be the
  537. 16:48first thing that I would tell them that
  538. 16:50jacket is very interesting I feel like
  539. 16:52all of those people are cutting you a
  540. 16:53check yes they are okay you know me like
  541. 16:57what what are you talking about I'm not
  542. 16:59mad at you you know what I'm I'm not mad
  543. 17:00at all you know let's see here well I'm
  544. 17:02cutting my own check business bully
  545. 17:03podcast um April Beverly actually is one
  546. 17:06of the greatest copyri she sells like
  547. 17:07million dollar stuff so there's a lot of
  548. 17:08folks on here but the beauty of this is
  549. 17:10all these businesses are blackowned got
  550. 17:12you you know so for me that was a that
  551. 17:14was a huge thing you know and especially
  552. 17:15with like e Grassroots business and
  553. 17:17things of that nature to see that black
  554. 17:20folks can do things other than you know
  555. 17:22rap or you know shoot ball or sell
  556. 17:24weaves like we're bigger than that you
  557. 17:26know and and we're it's diverse and it's
  558. 17:28beautiful as anything we built this
  559. 17:30country and so I want to show black
  560. 17:31people in a positive light do you
  561. 17:33consult for all those companies uh just
  562. 17:35I would say 85% of them I consult for
  563. 17:37absolutely I feel like khed is gonna
  564. 17:38steal this idea I feel like K you have
  565. 17:41any idea how many ideas have been stolen
  566. 17:43from me that I will never get credit for
  567. 17:45um for example um the cran situation
  568. 17:47grand opening Grand closing everybody
  569. 17:49ran with that everybody ran with that
  570. 17:52shout out to DJ Vlad I miss my interview
  571. 17:54though but it's cool um you know what
  572. 17:55I'm saying stuff like that that just it
  573. 17:57it just happens sometimes you know you
  574. 17:59think everybody has it in them to be an
  575. 18:01entrepreneur no I'm not going to lie to
  576. 18:03you everybody doesn't but there are
  577. 18:05people who do who do this I call them
  578. 18:07the I'm about to tribe I'm about to do
  579. 18:09it I'm I'm about to I'm about to leave
  580. 18:11my job but they never do it's a slave
  581. 18:12mentality they're so afraid of what they
  582. 18:14can't control or what they can't foresee
  583. 18:16you know and you can't be that way you
  584. 18:18got to go for it cuz what if you die
  585. 18:20tomorrow you know what I mean what if
  586. 18:22you get a diagnosis that you got six
  587. 18:23weeks to live and you got all that up
  588. 18:25inside of you you know I didn't know
  589. 18:27what I was going to do I was this man
  590. 18:29texted me one time I'm sitting in my car
  591. 18:30crying my eyes out cuz I'm homeless and
  592. 18:33he's like yo where you at you've been
  593. 18:34low and I'm like you have no idea how
  594. 18:36low I was you know what I mean so I
  595. 18:38don't want to idea none none because
  596. 18:42embarrass I feel like with friends
  597. 18:43though I don't never want to see my
  598. 18:45friends get to that level let me know
  599. 18:46something you know what I mean like like
  600. 18:48I and as men I think it's a pride thing
  601. 18:50like we don't want other people to know
  602. 18:52what our situation is but yo say
  603. 18:54something absolutely you know and and I
  604. 18:56will say this the same way that uh you
  605. 18:58know hit off Ali this man put love in my
  606. 19:00hand more times than I can count when I
  607. 19:02didn't have anything you know so I'm if
  608. 19:05I if I had to pick somebody you know to
  609. 19:07have my back it's nobody better than
  610. 19:09this man and that's a real rapping I
  611. 19:10thank you I appreciate that would not be
  612. 19:12here I mean it's the same thing with t
  613. 19:14Taz gives great motivation like he was
  614. 19:16like my uh ghost producer when I was
  615. 19:18doing morning radio in Philly you know
  616. 19:20what I'm saying and I should have took
  617. 19:21that job I wish I had taken in hindsight
  618. 19:23I should have took that job but the
  619. 19:24salary was like 22 Grand so you don't go
  620. 19:26for making 100 Grand to 22 Grand you
  621. 19:28know be sleeping on my mom's couch but I
  622. 19:29should have took the job you know that
  623. 19:31if I have a regret it's that that I
  624. 19:32didn't produce you cuz it's not always
  625. 19:34about the money right it ain't about the
  626. 19:35money we we could have been great we
  627. 19:37really could have been great same thing
  628. 19:39with um that's what rich homw and young
  629. 19:40th said to each other
  630. 19:43best I hate you so much now you even
  631. 19:46talk about pitching as far as consensual
  632. 19:48sex like absolutely look here's the
  633. 19:52thing that is a good pitch for a temple
  634. 19:53alumni especially in light of Bill Cosby
  635. 19:55consensual I said that's what I'm saying
  636. 19:58consensual no the only pills I take are
  637. 20:00for depression no but seriously um if
  638. 20:03you've ever had sex that was consensual
  639. 20:06you've sold I'll never forget this man
  640. 20:07put on his Twitter you know I run my
  641. 20:10mouth and I get I get sex with my
  642. 20:11father's features you know what I mean I
  643. 20:13got married I had to take that off this
  644. 20:14man has sold his way to the top you know
  645. 20:17that's what it comes down to if you can
  646. 20:18if you can convince somebody look I'm a
  647. 20:20fat dude my wife was lingerie model at
  648. 20:23one point there's no way I should be
  649. 20:26with a la model at all
  650. 20:29but I can sell you know so you got you
  651. 20:31got to have a golden ear or silver
  652. 20:32tongue and a set of brass balls bigger
  653. 20:33than anybody silver tongue yeah
  654. 20:35absolutely now you say shut up you say
  655. 20:38pitch close upsell repeat absolutely
  656. 20:40when do you stop repeating yourself like
  657. 20:42is there ever a point where you say all
  658. 20:43right this ain't going to work they not
  659. 20:45buying if your cousin Winky and you're
  660. 20:48trying to rap in in in your in your
  661. 20:50basement and you know that you suck and
  662. 20:52everybody tells you you suck it it's
  663. 20:53time to move on to something else but if
  664. 20:55you're legitimately about your business
  665. 20:57you have to find the things at work you
  666. 20:59have to constantly evolve and adjust
  667. 21:01evolve and adjust you know the way that
  668. 21:03um like when I was doing uh clu's uh
  669. 21:05weekend radio show when I was producing
  670. 21:07that the way that I would talk to clue
  671. 21:08is totally different the way I would
  672. 21:09talk to Ricky different than the way I
  673. 21:11talk to Wendy you know so you have to be
  674. 21:13flexible enough to adjust to your to
  675. 21:14your environment but you can't be stupid
  676. 21:17you know so you got to know that like if
  677. 21:18you're trying to sell magic beans and
  678. 21:20think you gonna get a bean stalk it's
  679. 21:21not going to happen what about looking
  680. 21:22the part here's my
  681. 21:26thing it depends I'm not a big believer
  682. 21:30in the whole suit and tie this that and
  683. 21:32the third because who cares there are a
  684. 21:34whole lot of salespeople that have
  685. 21:36$2,000 suits and have $100 in
  686. 21:39commissions you know so while you're
  687. 21:41wearing all of this stuff that has
  688. 21:43absolutely nothing to do with your
  689. 21:46ability you know you lose things you
  690. 21:48know I thank God sometimes that I'm
  691. 21:49overweight because I had to develop this
  692. 21:52and I had to develop this because I
  693. 21:54can't come with a six-pack but then you
  694. 21:55talk about Steve Jobs also and the that
  695. 21:57he would address absolutely because he
  696. 21:59came casual people don't want to come
  697. 22:02they don't they don't want to accept
  698. 22:04somebody who's above them Steve Jobs
  699. 22:06realized that you have to be very plain
  700. 22:08that's why I always wear sneakers that's
  701. 22:10why I always wear a t-shirt you know I
  702. 22:11may wear something crazy he knows about
  703. 22:12my jackets you know I always believe in
  704. 22:15just being fun and and and being able to
  705. 22:18converse with people so that's important
  706. 22:20man your clothes don't make you you make
  707. 22:22sales you know so stop worrying about
  708. 22:24what you look like and start worrying
  709. 22:26about what you can do but what about
  710. 22:27people when when they say First
  711. 22:29Impressions you know somebody might walk
  712. 22:31in the room and based on their
  713. 22:32appearance it does sometimes give you a
  714. 22:34general
  715. 22:36okay you know yeah I'm with you on that
  716. 22:38here's the thing though right if you're
  717. 22:40good and you're confident and you know
  718. 22:42your stuff I can change first
  719. 22:44impressions first time I met Ricky
  720. 22:45Smiley he was like um I don't know
  721. 22:50man hey crack what you think but the
  722. 22:53truth of the matter is I got him in the
  723. 22:5530 markets M you know five producers
  724. 22:58before me for after me so regardless I
  725. 23:01turned him around not only that the man
  726. 23:02paid me out of his pocket to do stand up
  727. 23:04wow you know so God bless that man and I
  728. 23:06will say this because I want to be clear
  729. 23:08about Ricky Ricky and I do not speak you
  730. 23:10know but Ricky and I both have very
  731. 23:12close relationships with our
  732. 23:13grandparents you know I performed for
  733. 23:15his grandfather um when my grandmother
  734. 23:18was dying and it was my last living
  735. 23:20person she was my best friend there was
  736. 23:22nobody else I could go to so I called
  737. 23:24Ricky smile I swallow my pride and I
  738. 23:25called Ricky Smiley and he literally
  739. 23:27talked me through my GRE process so God
  740. 23:30bless that man you know everybody's got
  741. 23:32sides to him and there's things that you
  742. 23:33know you can't come back from but I
  743. 23:36respect him and I'm so proud it's like
  744. 23:38watching your child grow up you know
  745. 23:39what I mean the show not him now uh
  746. 23:42student loan day that's another thing
  747. 23:44that you speak out a lot absolutely what
  748. 23:45can we do to prevent this this issue
  749. 23:47from growing first of all stop thinking
  750. 23:50that your children are all going to be
  751. 23:51the same that they need to go to college
  752. 23:53that's a thing in the black community
  753. 23:54it's historically been I my mama was the
  754. 23:57first one to go to college so on and so
  755. 23:59forth that that's old thinking you know
  756. 24:02my daughter Midori she is a photographer
  757. 24:05so I invest in her photography business
  758. 24:08my wife fights about this with me but if
  759. 24:10you go to school go to school for the
  760. 24:11experience or go to school to learn
  761. 24:13something that you would have to you
  762. 24:14know take with you but a lot of people
  763. 24:16don't do that every other community Goes
  764. 24:18to School comes out starts a business we
  765. 24:20go to school come out get on the
  766. 24:22corporate ladder 300,000 NBAs right now
  767. 24:25uh claim that they're tending bar as
  768. 24:26their main occupation that's problematic
  769. 24:29you got all this parchment but no
  770. 24:32paper how does that make sense so yeah I
  771. 24:35mean I I paid off student loans Michelle
  772. 24:37Obama paid off student loans you know
  773. 24:38I'm still paying off some of my student
  774. 24:40loans I paid off my student loans if you
  775. 24:42took half of what you would spend for
  776. 24:43college in investing in a business and
  777. 24:45then going to places look at what Mark
  778. 24:47cubin did Mark Cuban sold everything
  779. 24:48from milkshakes to powdered milk and he
  780. 24:50would go to a job that would teach him
  781. 24:53what it is he wanted to learn and then
  782. 24:54with that knowledge he was getting paid
  783. 24:56for it so he had access to all these
  784. 24:57manuals and that's how that man started
  785. 24:59hdn net and all of those things so you
  786. 25:01have to be smart about it there's some
  787. 25:02better education out in the world than
  788. 25:04there will ever be I'm not talking about
  789. 25:05doctors and loues I'm talking about
  790. 25:07people with an entrepreneurial mindset
  791. 25:09now what exactly what will people learn
  792. 25:10from this book wow sell it sell it all
  793. 25:13right this no um this book is the most
  794. 25:16simple version of how to be a
  795. 25:19salesperson how to be your most
  796. 25:21authentic self how to get rid of that
  797. 25:23fear that anxiety how to how to put your
  798. 25:26family in their place okay stop using
  799. 25:28your family as your your sales base I
  800. 25:29see a lot of people do that um don't be
  801. 25:32cheap get those things together
  802. 25:34everything that you could possibly want
  803. 25:35to know if you're just getting started
  804. 25:37on how to sell yourself sell your
  805. 25:39business um become more happy with the
  806. 25:42way you are in the world pitch close ups
  807. 25:44I'll repeat it's absolutely the best
  808. 25:46book I've ever written and where can
  809. 25:47they find it uh wow you can find it at
  810. 25:49all major bookstores Barnes & Noble hir
  811. 25:51uh Amazon you can find it especially at
  812. 25:53egg Grassroots bus.com where I'm giving
  813. 25:55it away for like 99 Cents the digital
  814. 25:57version
  815. 25:58so I'm I'm excited about that man and
  816. 26:00I'm just I'm thrilled to be here man and
  817. 26:03one thing that I do want to say because
  818. 26:04we don't talk about this enough is black
  819. 26:07women um make up the majority the
  820. 26:09fastest growing rate of entrepreneurs
  821. 26:11that are successful past that 12- month
  822. 26:12Mark are black women so I I created with
  823. 26:15my partner Jessica van a company called
  824. 26:17brown sugar Brands and brown sugar
  825. 26:19Brands is just about teaching black
  826. 26:20women from a black woman's perspective
  827. 26:23how to to move in business how to Brand
  828. 26:25yourself you know and then I have a
  829. 26:27regular course called ibrand University
  830. 26:29where I teach uh lessons from the book
  831. 26:31and um I didn't want to come in here
  832. 26:33empty-handed so I have something for
  833. 26:34everybody and that's if you go to ibrand
  834. 26:37university.com
  835. 26:38breakfastclub you're going to get a a
  836. 26:40$600 seminar where I talk about how to
  837. 26:43fire your boss and quit your job in six
  838. 26:44months wow wow yeah so I I will never
  839. 26:47ever have to thank god um be at
  840. 26:49somebody's Mercy where somebody can you
  841. 26:51know yank my Liv Hood away from me
  842. 26:53because I don't ever want to be homeless
  843. 26:54again what's the website again ibrand
  844. 26:56university.com
  845. 26:58SL Breakfast Club okay that's indeed and
  846. 27:02who else can they reach you oh wow um
  847. 27:04you can reach me on Twitter at my inner
  848. 27:07brand um you can call my office
  849. 27:279293587474 which you you need to bring
  850. 27:29your black ass on let me know I'm there
  851. 27:31negro I texted your black ass I'm like
  852. 27:33wait what oh well that that pitch closed
  853. 27:36yeah so anyway
  854. 27:37anyway he ditched my pitch yeah get that
  855. 27:40pitch but no business bully show.com you
  856. 27:42know somebody lying when they pick up
  857. 27:43their phone like you
  858. 27:45damn oh I had you blocked I'm so sorry
  859. 27:49no so you know it's it's it's an amazing
  860. 27:51time yeah I want I want you to come on
  861. 27:52the show too ye I think I think C can
  862. 27:54learn a lot from you yeah absolutely so
  863. 27:56business buly show.com all that good
  864. 27:57stuff salute to my man David Anderson
  865. 27:59AKA Taz Daddy go get the book pitch
  866. 28:01close upsell repeat this brother is very
  867. 28:04necessary in our communities man thank
  868. 28:06you for coming Taz well thank you for
  869. 28:07having me it's an honor and a privilege
  870. 28:08bro absolutely it's The Breakfast
  871. 28:11Club The Breakfast Club every weekday
  872. 28:14morning tune in

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