David Anderson Interview at The Breakfast Club Power 105.1 (04/06/2016) — Transcript
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- 0:09Charlamagne the god Angela ye and got my
- 0:11guy here I know him is Taz daddy yes sir
- 0:15but you know not that he's the author
- 0:16and all that good stuff here you go
- 0:18David
- 0:19Anderson up my brother thank you for
- 0:22having me man I'm happy to be here I'm
- 0:23very happy to be here right pitch close
- 0:25upsell repeat is the name of the book MH
- 0:28now I was noticing you were about the
- 0:30importance of cold calls a lot which is
- 0:32something a lot of people don't do right
- 0:34mhm well the thing about a cold call is
- 0:37that if you can get somebody when
- 0:39they're not thinking about it think
- 0:41about how many times in radio throughout
- 0:42your careers you've had to go to like a
- 0:43car lot or something and nobody will
- 0:46ever you know say oh you know what this
- 0:48morning I heard Charlamagne down there
- 0:50at at Piper Ford and I'm going to go get
- 0:52a car it doesn't happen right so you
- 0:53have to convince people you know that
- 0:56this is something that they need and the
- 0:57best way to do that is to catch them off
- 0:58guard you know when You' been approached
- 1:00by somebody you were waking up thinking
- 1:01about that guy who you decided to date
- 1:03it just happened I'm an aid I'm an avid
- 1:05consumer I realized like I'm going to
- 1:07give you an example of how uh cold call
- 1:09worked for me kind of I was on Facebook
- 1:12and I just bought my house and I was
- 1:13like I really want to build a walk-in
- 1:14closet but I didn't know where to start
- 1:16to look for somebody who could do
- 1:17something like that right somebody just
- 1:19randomly emailed me on Facebook and was
- 1:21like Hey I see you bought a house you
- 1:23know I did uh I have this company that I
- 1:25work with and they build closets so if
- 1:27you need anything you know and I
- 1:28immediately went and looked and said
- 1:30okay oh they did a great job they had
- 1:32their stuff posted online and I actually
- 1:34use them they did a lot of stuff in my
- 1:35house that's what's up man you know you
- 1:37got to take advantage of the
- 1:38opportunities and most sales people run
- 1:40from Cod calls but I would say 85% of
- 1:43the money that I've made in sales has
- 1:44come from Cod calling right I still Co
- 1:46call now now I haven't got a chance to
- 1:48read my brother's book yet but you know
- 1:49as long as I've known Taz he's been a
- 1:51motivational speaking type of guy so is
- 1:54this about business it's about business
- 1:56but it's also about life okay
- 1:58everybody's a salesperson um I'm going
- 2:00to tell Angela the story you know the
- 2:01story so we're uh we're at the conclave
- 2:0330 under 30 you know we got the awards
- 2:05charlot manne came late but that's all
- 2:07right uh that night I had my daughter
- 2:09was born that weekend yeah that's right
- 2:11so that night we uh we decided to hit
- 2:13the clubs cuz it's Minneapolis it's in
- 2:15the summer we're like well there's got
- 2:16to be something to do we want going to
- 2:17sit in the hotel so we go and there was
- 2:19a line like wrapped around the block and
- 2:21I looked at Charlamagne Charlamagne
- 2:23looked at me and at the time he was
- 2:24still with Wendy and I said I got this
- 2:27so I said excuse me uh find me your
- 2:29manager and the bouncer goes gets the
- 2:31manager and I say look do you know who
- 2:33that is oh God no I said see to God I'm
- 2:37like he with Wendy Williams do you want
- 2:38these kind of problems why do you have
- 2:39him standing in this line are you
- 2:41crazy are you absolutely I said that's
- 2:43utterly disrespectful t stop stop please
- 2:47I'm sorry I'm sorry boss I got worked up
- 2:49and they let all it was like five of us
- 2:50in there it's hurricane D they let us
- 2:52all in there we got to the rooftops we
- 2:54drinking yeah George cook and we were
- 2:56drinking Saka lemonade on them all night
- 2:58wow that's called selling that's selling
- 3:01word up you've always been a good
- 3:02salesperson now was that part of
- 3:04charlamagne's um routine to be no no
- 3:06stop stop stop it's okay it's okay well
- 3:07you got to understand the first time I
- 3:09ever met that oh you didn't know each we
- 3:12we we had spoken like online because
- 3:14when I heard uh when I heard the Buffy
- 3:15the Body situation so you're going back
- 3:17what 12 years something crazy like that
- 3:19yeah like 04 yeah you know I reached out
- 3:21to him on MySpace so tell you how long
- 3:23the body situation I interviewed her in
- 3:25Columbia South Carolina and just told
- 3:26her she needs to get her life together
- 3:28and you know what what is she going to
- 3:30do it herself when her body deteriorates
- 3:32and she told me I would never be and I
- 3:34told her my mouth is going to get her
- 3:35far than her butt so I think I was
- 3:37accurate but and it's true so I I HTE
- 3:40him up like yo I hear you going to Wendy
- 3:42yes said that's an awesome opportunity
- 3:43I'm also graduate with the Wendy
- 3:44Williams School of Technology and um you
- 3:47know we've been talking ever since and
- 3:49that was the first time we ever been in
- 3:50the same space but we we followed
- 3:52similar paths so you know when you when
- 3:55you know people in your tribe you you
- 3:56know how it is you know see Taz used to
- 3:58he had a radio background you used to be
- 4:00a producer for the Ricky Smiley Morning
- 4:03Show absolutely and that didn't end too
- 4:05well no it did not what happen Okay so
- 4:09I'mma throw the story for the last time
- 4:11um it was a situation and let me say
- 4:13this Ricky Smiley is somebody's father
- 4:14Ricky Smiley is a very good human being
- 4:16if it wasn't for Ricky Smiley I would
- 4:17not be sitting here um okay that was the
- 4:20disclaimer so go ahead all right so the
- 4:22bottom line is this disrespect no
- 4:24disrespect but here's the situation and
- 4:26any producer worth hisa doing a
- 4:28syndicated show has two jobs number one
- 4:30produce the show number two be a buffer
- 4:32between management and the talent so
- 4:34management is pulling me one way because
- 4:35you know how Ricky can be so Rick is
- 4:38pulling me another way and this is also
- 4:39one of my best friends so I'm caught in
- 4:42the middle and I'm trying to do
- 4:43everything I can to help save my friend
- 4:46and so at that point they're they're in
- 4:48my ear you got to do this you got to do
- 4:49that so I'm telling him Rick this is
- 4:51what I need this that and the third and
- 4:52one day it just it got out of hand he
- 4:54misunderstood he started saying some
- 4:56things and and and every once in a while
- 4:57you can pop off I'll take that that's
- 4:58the job of the producer
- 5:00but ain't going to be too many physical
- 5:01threats so um that was I Ricky could
- 5:04take you bro no I don't think so either
- 5:06but he believed he could you know
- 5:07because I'm a genuinely nice guy I don't
- 5:09I don't get I don't get riled up but at
- 5:11that particular point you know it was
- 5:13like the Unstoppable Force meeting the
- 5:15immovable object and if he knew what I
- 5:17knew he'd be thanking me right now so I
- 5:20I fell on my sword for him and it is
- 5:22what it is I'm as he ran through since
- 5:24then um let's see just the ones you mean
- 5:27after me after I got him in the
- 5:28syndication
- 5:33I think four damn you know so it wasn't
- 5:36you I will say this right and Ricky
- 5:38Smiley taught me this he said if you
- 5:40look at a situation and things keep
- 5:41changing and things keep changing who's
- 5:43the common denominator in all those
- 5:45situations so there's that um I will say
- 5:49um I've never met Claudia Jordan but she
- 5:50was strum in my pain with her fingers
- 5:52yeah you know what I mean it it was like
- 5:54wow yeah you could understand how
- 5:56difficult it could be absolutely but
- 5:58that's not to say that man isn't a good
- 5:59man and I mean how can I complain that's
- 6:01not the best person to work for no I
- 6:03would not work for him again but I do
- 6:05miss my friend and how can I be mad I
- 6:07got an nnr award a 30 under 30 award um
- 6:10I put him in a syndication in 30 plus
- 6:12markets you know that reality show he
- 6:14now has we did the pilot that was
- 6:16something that we conceived right so how
- 6:18can I be mad at that I'm happy for that
- 6:20man word is that one of the reasons you
- 6:22decided to say you know what let me go
- 6:23ahead and be a full-fledged entrepreneur
- 6:24cuz the radio business is very unstable
- 6:27yes um that and I have a wife and two
- 6:29children right you know and after a
- 6:31while when your your guys are very lucky
- 6:34because you came out and went in meaning
- 6:36you had a situation like I did with
- 6:38Wendy and you had satellite so people
- 6:40look at you as an outsider as opposed to
- 6:42somebody who comes through radio does
- 6:44not like to cultivate talent and grow
- 6:46them up you and I have had this
- 6:47conversation a million one times you
- 6:49know this man created the boom format
- 6:50they'll never give him credit for it but
- 6:52it's one of those things where I can't
- 6:54sit around and do what everybody wants
- 6:56me to do the way they want me to be
- 6:57creative so i' rather on my own and do
- 7:00what I need to do you know and I got to
- 7:02say honestly thank you to Doc witer for
- 7:04for giving me an opportunity myc love
- 7:06him to death and if he called me today
- 7:07I'd come back but other than that you
- 7:09know I want to be able to to mark my own
- 7:11path so right and you talked about uh
- 7:13your experience and your background in
- 7:15sales working for ADT and selling a home
- 7:18security at first and it was interesting
- 7:20because you really talked a lot about
- 7:22strategies that you have to use in order
- 7:24to get people to want to uh you know
- 7:27let's talk about the the whole entire
- 7:29from beginning to end the pitch the
- 7:31close the upsell and the repeat all
- 7:33right so basically when you're looking
- 7:34at anything that you're trying to sell
- 7:36you have to find your target audience
- 7:38and then once you find that person you
- 7:39have to find their pain and once you
- 7:40know what their pain is then you can
- 7:42pitch them effectively you know like you
- 7:45don't ever want to go someplace and your
- 7:47nails chip so if I've got something
- 7:48that's going to smooth out your nails
- 7:49real quick while you're on the way to
- 7:50the club then I've solved your problem I
- 7:52got that pain it sells itself right you
- 7:54know closing something you're always
- 7:55being closed you know if you go to the
- 7:57gas station to put 10 on pump one and
- 7:59then you go in there just to put down
- 8:00your $10 bill and you say oh look
- 8:02there's uh there's chips you know
- 8:04there's all these things you know so
- 8:05there's the upsell part of it somebody's
- 8:07always trying to close you and trying to
- 8:08upsell you and but what most people do
- 8:11wrong my mother makes a better
- 8:13cheeseburger than McDonald's ever could
- 8:15but McDonald's has a better process than
- 8:16my mother could ever create so the
- 8:19process of what branding or the process
- 8:20of branding the process of making a
- 8:22cheeseburger you've had a cheeseburger
- 8:23mon quarter from McDonald's you've had
- 8:25one in in Manhattan from McDonald's
- 8:26tastes the same right yeah that's a
- 8:28process and that process is repeated and
- 8:29duplicable so once you're able to have
- 8:32something down and you work out those
- 8:34fine tuned things find your Rhythm
- 8:36become who you are in that sales process
- 8:39you're able to repeat that over and over
- 8:41again you know a lot of sales people get
- 8:42lucky once but can't follow it up or
- 8:44even in radio you see salespeople and
- 8:46they do this they have packages here's
- 8:48this here's that package go do that that
- 8:49doesn't help the that doesn't help the
- 8:51customer right so you got to help the
- 8:52customer before you can help yourself so
- 8:54what if there's no pain what if you're
- 8:55how can you sell to somebody if they
- 8:56don't have a
- 8:57pain then you treat them like like the
- 8:59devil treats human beings you sell their
- 9:02desires bottom line you know there's no
- 9:05pain Angel is pretty without makeup but
- 9:07there's a certain brand I'm sure she
- 9:08uses and she's happy with are you pretty
- 9:10without
- 9:13makeup I am not Lord Jesus let me no
- 9:16she's not Angela actually is pretty
- 9:17without make you know so that's just
- 9:19what it is if there's no pain you you
- 9:21you appearal to their desire you appeal
- 9:22to their urgency you know and then
- 9:24sometimes you have to create the pain
- 9:26you know like uh one of the things that
- 9:28I like to sell a lot are dig products um
- 9:30so someone says oh well I've already got
- 9:32my SEO and my website is great and I'm
- 9:34telling them that they need to be
- 9:36registered on like 30 different search
- 9:38engines to up their SEO and they're like
- 9:40well I don't understand that I said well
- 9:42let me ask you this if your toilet was
- 9:44leaking and you needed a plumber you'd
- 9:45get one right well yeah but would you
- 9:47get one right now no but I'm telling you
- 9:49right now your toilet is leaking and
- 9:50here's why you can't argue with that all
- 9:53right so you know that's what it comes
- 9:54down to it's interesting because some
- 9:55things are kind of aggressive that you
- 9:57talk about in this book also
- 9:59is an aggressive guy little bit in one
- 10:02instance you talk about you know
- 10:03normally what people say when they're
- 10:05undecided is okay well I just have to
- 10:07check with my husband or check with my
- 10:09wife first before I can respond that's a
- 10:10cop out people sales people step into
- 10:12that when they're saying that let me
- 10:13tell you something my wife knows if she
- 10:15wants something I'm not going to object
- 10:18to it and if my wife and I were talking
- 10:20about whatever it is if I come into your
- 10:21showroom um obviously have had that
- 10:24conversation already so I wouldn't do
- 10:26anything that she would object to I know
- 10:28my wife I know what she would go for
- 10:29what she wouldn't doing that is just a
- 10:31deflection of smoke screen because
- 10:33they're scared to pay that money they're
- 10:34scared to commit you got to call them
- 10:35out on it sign here and here but isn't
- 10:37it a respect thing though you want your
- 10:38wife to be like hey I'm about to spend
- 10:40this money yeah absolutely and and I do
- 10:42agree you should but that's why most
- 10:44contracts when it comes to sales people
- 10:45you know there there's a period of time
- 10:47where you can get out of it but you know
- 10:49sign a paperwork and we'll deal with the
- 10:50rest later you know now you went to
- 10:52Temple right I did what was your mayj
- 10:53temple uh broadcasting
- 10:55telecommunications and mass media with a
- 10:56minor in business do do you ever feel
- 10:58like do you say yourself I wish I would
- 10:59have majored in business no because I
- 11:01took business courses I had I I tested
- 11:03out of a lot of the communications
- 11:05classes cuz I was doing radio since I
- 11:07was nine wow so they were graded on C
- 11:09like we got to get Anderson out of here
- 11:10so I started taking B School classes and
- 11:12so I I don't regret that but there are
- 11:15things in life that business school will
- 11:16never teach you right you know so I've
- 11:18learned more as a businessman than I
- 11:20ever did in any business course I've
- 11:21ever taken so no I'm happy are you um
- 11:23upset about Bill Cosby being a temple
- 11:26alumni well you see I knew that was
- 11:28coming
- 11:30here's the thing right I look at I look
- 11:32at Steven Collins I look at um Woody
- 11:36Allen I look at um all these horrible
- 11:39people who have done horrible things and
- 11:41they still have their stuff in
- 11:42syndication on Netflix everything else
- 11:44um black people love R Kelly love him
- 11:47yeah come on man he peed on a little
- 11:49girl he peed on a little girl and he
- 11:50married Aaliyah let's not let's not run
- 11:52over that he married Leah he got with uh
- 11:55allegedly got to be careful allegedly
- 11:57George Daniel's daughter when she was
- 11:58under age this man had has a problem and
- 12:00still millions of record sold I'll never
- 12:02forget the rep from Jive told me by the
- 12:04time this tape drops by the time all
- 12:06this happens everybody's going to love
- 12:07him and forget about it and I I said
- 12:09there's no way but that's what so when
- 12:11it comes to Bill Cosby who cares about
- 12:15you know what it does his art his art
- 12:17should still be left alone maybe if he
- 12:19had new art that was just as on the
- 12:21level of The Cosby Show in a different
- 12:22world may people change and I also do
- 12:24feel like R Kelly has been tarnished
- 12:26forever from that situation he's
- 12:28definitely the but of jokes and I do
- 12:30feel like his career isn't what it could
- 12:31have been let me ask you this ye real
- 12:33real rap has Doc Winer ever had a
- 12:35conversation with y'all about pulling R
- 12:36Kelly
- 12:38records then he's not damaged his
- 12:40reputation who cares he don't do you
- 12:42care what people think about you yeah
- 12:44you liy no you don't I mean I do if if I
- 12:47was running around peeing on
- 12:52girls anybody yeah but other than that
- 12:55no I don't care no not at all okay so in
- 12:57your opinion you think everybody should
- 13:00you think that R Kelly should be treated
- 13:01the way and all these other people
- 13:03should be treated the way that Bill
- 13:04Cosby is or you think that Bill Cosby
- 13:05should
- 13:06be I feel everybody I I think the
- 13:09punishment should fit the crime if
- 13:10you're a rapist you're a rapist if
- 13:12you're a uh statutory rapist you're a
- 13:14statutory rapist if you've committed a
- 13:16sex crime you should not be protected
- 13:18from that but you need to go into a
- 13:21court of law and let the process happen
- 13:23right that hasn't happened with Bill
- 13:24Cosby and that is not fair and then
- 13:26people just coming out the Woodworks o
- 13:27me o me o me like like with the Tiger
- 13:29Wood situation you know some folks are
- 13:31looking for a Payday some people and and
- 13:34as a victim of sexual assault myself I
- 13:36understand you know that pain and I'm
- 13:38not belittling it in any way shape or
- 13:40form but how was that fear to Malcolm
- 13:41Jamal Warner how was that feir to
- 13:42Felicia Rashad or anybody who was on
- 13:44that cast show you see what I'm saying
- 13:46so no I think everybody should be
- 13:48treated the same way how how how have
- 13:50all these experiences uh affected you in
- 13:52business cuz like you said you said
- 13:53you've been molested do you have a
- 13:55certain empathy when you're trying to
- 13:57sell something to people cuz you don't
- 13:58want to force things no I don't believe
- 14:00in forcing anything on anybody you
- 14:01shouldn't have to force anything I mean
- 14:02Chris Rock said it best drug dealers
- 14:04offer drugs no matter what I'm selling
- 14:05I'm selling drugs I want you hooked on
- 14:07whatever it is I have so yeah I come
- 14:09with a certain amount of empathy with
- 14:10everything that I do you know but I'm
- 14:12still a man you know and I still have
- 14:14things that I have to get done so I
- 14:16never knew you got molested when you
- 14:17were young it's not something I've
- 14:19really ever talked about that happened
- 14:20to me when I was eight wow yeah it
- 14:21happened to me when I was 11 through I
- 14:25would say 14 J same same woman um I will
- 14:28say that that uh that person is a
- 14:31relative um but not by Blood yeah for me
- 14:34that's for me it was my cousin's ex-wife
- 14:36yeah only I never said nothing because I
- 14:37enjoyed it yeah and that's the thing
- 14:40because you know you know because for me
- 14:41in my case it was a woman um you know
- 14:43because your body it's a physical
- 14:45response to stimuli it's not of course
- 14:47you're going to it feels good but that
- 14:49doesn't you didn't have the choice in
- 14:51the matter I didn't have the choice in
- 14:53the matter we weren't adults enough to
- 14:55make those adult decisions and that's
- 14:56wrong to take a child's innocence well
- 14:58yeah it's a disgusting it's brutally
- 15:00disgusting unless you look at the bright
- 15:02side and say hey I was getting head at
- 15:05eight all right has no bright side it
- 15:08really isn't disgusting now you also
- 15:10said you should never cancel a meeting I
- 15:12agree with that not at all I don't care
- 15:13what happens I got here in time didn't I
- 15:15yeah I don't care I don't care what
- 15:16happens you know because what it shows
- 15:18is that you don't care regardless of
- 15:20what happened unless you got hit by
- 15:22meteorite bring your ass to where you
- 15:23say you going to bring your ass to all
- 15:24right you know because people people
- 15:26will lose respect for you and that's the
- 15:27last thing you want and people will
- 15:29cancel if you're 5 minutes late
- 15:30absolutely I've I've canceled for 2
- 15:32minutes because you don't respect my
- 15:34time you know what time is you're in
- 15:36radio right time is everything all right
- 15:38up you know y'all told me I got half an
- 15:40hour I got half an hour I'm not staying
- 15:4131 minutes that's what it is you have to
- 15:44respect time and people who don't
- 15:45respect time don't respect money I
- 15:47always tell people that it is really
- 15:48important to be on time for things
- 15:50because I have some friends that are
- 15:51always late for everything and I always
- 15:53say that if you're not on time that
- 15:54means you don't respect the other
- 15:55person's time and you act like it's not
- 15:57that important absolutely you know uh
- 15:59for me it's one of those things where if
- 16:01I have friends like that I lie to them I
- 16:03tell I literally tell them it starts an
- 16:05hour ahead of time because then you hear
- 16:06you going to be mad at me but we
- 16:07drinking and we're all I'm not going to
- 16:08lie I have to do that for lip service
- 16:10the girls come late every single time
- 16:12and they'll be like an hour late so now
- 16:14I have to tell them an hour ahead but
- 16:15now they now they come an hour later
- 16:18knowing that I told them an hour ahead
- 16:20is is bad well now they know your secret
- 16:22now what advice would you give the new
- 16:23startup owners um first thing I would
- 16:25say is Let's Not Be janky you know get
- 16:27yourself a business license got and stop
- 16:30trying to do everything all at you know
- 16:32this the Field of Dreams mentality
- 16:34that's movie stuff you have to be very
- 16:36uh Concrete in what it is that you want
- 16:38to do as a startup and then you want to
- 16:40make sure that you have enough funding
- 16:41to actually make some things happen so
- 16:43that means you got to put together a
- 16:44business plan and beg for some money or
- 16:45try and get an appearance on Shark Tank
- 16:47do that you know that that would be the
- 16:48first thing that I would tell them that
- 16:50jacket is very interesting I feel like
- 16:52all of those people are cutting you a
- 16:53check yes they are okay you know me like
- 16:57what what are you talking about I'm not
- 16:59mad at you you know what I'm I'm not mad
- 17:00at all you know let's see here well I'm
- 17:02cutting my own check business bully
- 17:03podcast um April Beverly actually is one
- 17:06of the greatest copyri she sells like
- 17:07million dollar stuff so there's a lot of
- 17:08folks on here but the beauty of this is
- 17:10all these businesses are blackowned got
- 17:12you you know so for me that was a that
- 17:14was a huge thing you know and especially
- 17:15with like e Grassroots business and
- 17:17things of that nature to see that black
- 17:20folks can do things other than you know
- 17:22rap or you know shoot ball or sell
- 17:24weaves like we're bigger than that you
- 17:26know and and we're it's diverse and it's
- 17:28beautiful as anything we built this
- 17:30country and so I want to show black
- 17:31people in a positive light do you
- 17:33consult for all those companies uh just
- 17:35I would say 85% of them I consult for
- 17:37absolutely I feel like khed is gonna
- 17:38steal this idea I feel like K you have
- 17:41any idea how many ideas have been stolen
- 17:43from me that I will never get credit for
- 17:45um for example um the cran situation
- 17:47grand opening Grand closing everybody
- 17:49ran with that everybody ran with that
- 17:52shout out to DJ Vlad I miss my interview
- 17:54though but it's cool um you know what
- 17:55I'm saying stuff like that that just it
- 17:57it just happens sometimes you know you
- 17:59think everybody has it in them to be an
- 18:01entrepreneur no I'm not going to lie to
- 18:03you everybody doesn't but there are
- 18:05people who do who do this I call them
- 18:07the I'm about to tribe I'm about to do
- 18:09it I'm I'm about to I'm about to leave
- 18:11my job but they never do it's a slave
- 18:12mentality they're so afraid of what they
- 18:14can't control or what they can't foresee
- 18:16you know and you can't be that way you
- 18:18got to go for it cuz what if you die
- 18:20tomorrow you know what I mean what if
- 18:22you get a diagnosis that you got six
- 18:23weeks to live and you got all that up
- 18:25inside of you you know I didn't know
- 18:27what I was going to do I was this man
- 18:29texted me one time I'm sitting in my car
- 18:30crying my eyes out cuz I'm homeless and
- 18:33he's like yo where you at you've been
- 18:34low and I'm like you have no idea how
- 18:36low I was you know what I mean so I
- 18:38don't want to idea none none because
- 18:42embarrass I feel like with friends
- 18:43though I don't never want to see my
- 18:45friends get to that level let me know
- 18:46something you know what I mean like like
- 18:48I and as men I think it's a pride thing
- 18:50like we don't want other people to know
- 18:52what our situation is but yo say
- 18:54something absolutely you know and and I
- 18:56will say this the same way that uh you
- 18:58know hit off Ali this man put love in my
- 19:00hand more times than I can count when I
- 19:02didn't have anything you know so I'm if
- 19:05I if I had to pick somebody you know to
- 19:07have my back it's nobody better than
- 19:09this man and that's a real rapping I
- 19:10thank you I appreciate that would not be
- 19:12here I mean it's the same thing with t
- 19:14Taz gives great motivation like he was
- 19:16like my uh ghost producer when I was
- 19:18doing morning radio in Philly you know
- 19:20what I'm saying and I should have took
- 19:21that job I wish I had taken in hindsight
- 19:23I should have took that job but the
- 19:24salary was like 22 Grand so you don't go
- 19:26for making 100 Grand to 22 Grand you
- 19:28know be sleeping on my mom's couch but I
- 19:29should have took the job you know that
- 19:31if I have a regret it's that that I
- 19:32didn't produce you cuz it's not always
- 19:34about the money right it ain't about the
- 19:35money we we could have been great we
- 19:37really could have been great same thing
- 19:39with um that's what rich homw and young
- 19:40th said to each other
- 19:43best I hate you so much now you even
- 19:46talk about pitching as far as consensual
- 19:48sex like absolutely look here's the
- 19:52thing that is a good pitch for a temple
- 19:53alumni especially in light of Bill Cosby
- 19:55consensual I said that's what I'm saying
- 19:58consensual no the only pills I take are
- 20:00for depression no but seriously um if
- 20:03you've ever had sex that was consensual
- 20:06you've sold I'll never forget this man
- 20:07put on his Twitter you know I run my
- 20:10mouth and I get I get sex with my
- 20:11father's features you know what I mean I
- 20:13got married I had to take that off this
- 20:14man has sold his way to the top you know
- 20:17that's what it comes down to if you can
- 20:18if you can convince somebody look I'm a
- 20:20fat dude my wife was lingerie model at
- 20:23one point there's no way I should be
- 20:26with a la model at all
- 20:29but I can sell you know so you got you
- 20:31got to have a golden ear or silver
- 20:32tongue and a set of brass balls bigger
- 20:33than anybody silver tongue yeah
- 20:35absolutely now you say shut up you say
- 20:38pitch close upsell repeat absolutely
- 20:40when do you stop repeating yourself like
- 20:42is there ever a point where you say all
- 20:43right this ain't going to work they not
- 20:45buying if your cousin Winky and you're
- 20:48trying to rap in in in your in your
- 20:50basement and you know that you suck and
- 20:52everybody tells you you suck it it's
- 20:53time to move on to something else but if
- 20:55you're legitimately about your business
- 20:57you have to find the things at work you
- 20:59have to constantly evolve and adjust
- 21:01evolve and adjust you know the way that
- 21:03um like when I was doing uh clu's uh
- 21:05weekend radio show when I was producing
- 21:07that the way that I would talk to clue
- 21:08is totally different the way I would
- 21:09talk to Ricky different than the way I
- 21:11talk to Wendy you know so you have to be
- 21:13flexible enough to adjust to your to
- 21:14your environment but you can't be stupid
- 21:17you know so you got to know that like if
- 21:18you're trying to sell magic beans and
- 21:20think you gonna get a bean stalk it's
- 21:21not going to happen what about looking
- 21:22the part here's my
- 21:26thing it depends I'm not a big believer
- 21:30in the whole suit and tie this that and
- 21:32the third because who cares there are a
- 21:34whole lot of salespeople that have
- 21:36$2,000 suits and have $100 in
- 21:39commissions you know so while you're
- 21:41wearing all of this stuff that has
- 21:43absolutely nothing to do with your
- 21:46ability you know you lose things you
- 21:48know I thank God sometimes that I'm
- 21:49overweight because I had to develop this
- 21:52and I had to develop this because I
- 21:54can't come with a six-pack but then you
- 21:55talk about Steve Jobs also and the that
- 21:57he would address absolutely because he
- 21:59came casual people don't want to come
- 22:02they don't they don't want to accept
- 22:04somebody who's above them Steve Jobs
- 22:06realized that you have to be very plain
- 22:08that's why I always wear sneakers that's
- 22:10why I always wear a t-shirt you know I
- 22:11may wear something crazy he knows about
- 22:12my jackets you know I always believe in
- 22:15just being fun and and and being able to
- 22:18converse with people so that's important
- 22:20man your clothes don't make you you make
- 22:22sales you know so stop worrying about
- 22:24what you look like and start worrying
- 22:26about what you can do but what about
- 22:27people when when they say First
- 22:29Impressions you know somebody might walk
- 22:31in the room and based on their
- 22:32appearance it does sometimes give you a
- 22:34general
- 22:36okay you know yeah I'm with you on that
- 22:38here's the thing though right if you're
- 22:40good and you're confident and you know
- 22:42your stuff I can change first
- 22:44impressions first time I met Ricky
- 22:45Smiley he was like um I don't know
- 22:50man hey crack what you think but the
- 22:53truth of the matter is I got him in the
- 22:5530 markets M you know five producers
- 22:58before me for after me so regardless I
- 23:01turned him around not only that the man
- 23:02paid me out of his pocket to do stand up
- 23:04wow you know so God bless that man and I
- 23:06will say this because I want to be clear
- 23:08about Ricky Ricky and I do not speak you
- 23:10know but Ricky and I both have very
- 23:12close relationships with our
- 23:13grandparents you know I performed for
- 23:15his grandfather um when my grandmother
- 23:18was dying and it was my last living
- 23:20person she was my best friend there was
- 23:22nobody else I could go to so I called
- 23:24Ricky smile I swallow my pride and I
- 23:25called Ricky Smiley and he literally
- 23:27talked me through my GRE process so God
- 23:30bless that man you know everybody's got
- 23:32sides to him and there's things that you
- 23:33know you can't come back from but I
- 23:36respect him and I'm so proud it's like
- 23:38watching your child grow up you know
- 23:39what I mean the show not him now uh
- 23:42student loan day that's another thing
- 23:44that you speak out a lot absolutely what
- 23:45can we do to prevent this this issue
- 23:47from growing first of all stop thinking
- 23:50that your children are all going to be
- 23:51the same that they need to go to college
- 23:53that's a thing in the black community
- 23:54it's historically been I my mama was the
- 23:57first one to go to college so on and so
- 23:59forth that that's old thinking you know
- 24:02my daughter Midori she is a photographer
- 24:05so I invest in her photography business
- 24:08my wife fights about this with me but if
- 24:10you go to school go to school for the
- 24:11experience or go to school to learn
- 24:13something that you would have to you
- 24:14know take with you but a lot of people
- 24:16don't do that every other community Goes
- 24:18to School comes out starts a business we
- 24:20go to school come out get on the
- 24:22corporate ladder 300,000 NBAs right now
- 24:25uh claim that they're tending bar as
- 24:26their main occupation that's problematic
- 24:29you got all this parchment but no
- 24:32paper how does that make sense so yeah I
- 24:35mean I I paid off student loans Michelle
- 24:37Obama paid off student loans you know
- 24:38I'm still paying off some of my student
- 24:40loans I paid off my student loans if you
- 24:42took half of what you would spend for
- 24:43college in investing in a business and
- 24:45then going to places look at what Mark
- 24:47cubin did Mark Cuban sold everything
- 24:48from milkshakes to powdered milk and he
- 24:50would go to a job that would teach him
- 24:53what it is he wanted to learn and then
- 24:54with that knowledge he was getting paid
- 24:56for it so he had access to all these
- 24:57manuals and that's how that man started
- 24:59hdn net and all of those things so you
- 25:01have to be smart about it there's some
- 25:02better education out in the world than
- 25:04there will ever be I'm not talking about
- 25:05doctors and loues I'm talking about
- 25:07people with an entrepreneurial mindset
- 25:09now what exactly what will people learn
- 25:10from this book wow sell it sell it all
- 25:13right this no um this book is the most
- 25:16simple version of how to be a
- 25:19salesperson how to be your most
- 25:21authentic self how to get rid of that
- 25:23fear that anxiety how to how to put your
- 25:26family in their place okay stop using
- 25:28your family as your your sales base I
- 25:29see a lot of people do that um don't be
- 25:32cheap get those things together
- 25:34everything that you could possibly want
- 25:35to know if you're just getting started
- 25:37on how to sell yourself sell your
- 25:39business um become more happy with the
- 25:42way you are in the world pitch close ups
- 25:44I'll repeat it's absolutely the best
- 25:46book I've ever written and where can
- 25:47they find it uh wow you can find it at
- 25:49all major bookstores Barnes & Noble hir
- 25:51uh Amazon you can find it especially at
- 25:53egg Grassroots bus.com where I'm giving
- 25:55it away for like 99 Cents the digital
- 25:57version
- 25:58so I'm I'm excited about that man and
- 26:00I'm just I'm thrilled to be here man and
- 26:03one thing that I do want to say because
- 26:04we don't talk about this enough is black
- 26:07women um make up the majority the
- 26:09fastest growing rate of entrepreneurs
- 26:11that are successful past that 12- month
- 26:12Mark are black women so I I created with
- 26:15my partner Jessica van a company called
- 26:17brown sugar Brands and brown sugar
- 26:19Brands is just about teaching black
- 26:20women from a black woman's perspective
- 26:23how to to move in business how to Brand
- 26:25yourself you know and then I have a
- 26:27regular course called ibrand University
- 26:29where I teach uh lessons from the book
- 26:31and um I didn't want to come in here
- 26:33empty-handed so I have something for
- 26:34everybody and that's if you go to ibrand
- 26:37university.com
- 26:38breakfastclub you're going to get a a
- 26:40$600 seminar where I talk about how to
- 26:43fire your boss and quit your job in six
- 26:44months wow wow yeah so I I will never
- 26:47ever have to thank god um be at
- 26:49somebody's Mercy where somebody can you
- 26:51know yank my Liv Hood away from me
- 26:53because I don't ever want to be homeless
- 26:54again what's the website again ibrand
- 26:56university.com
- 26:58SL Breakfast Club okay that's indeed and
- 27:02who else can they reach you oh wow um
- 27:04you can reach me on Twitter at my inner
- 27:07brand um you can call my office
- 27:279293587474 which you you need to bring
- 27:29your black ass on let me know I'm there
- 27:31negro I texted your black ass I'm like
- 27:33wait what oh well that that pitch closed
- 27:36yeah so anyway
- 27:37anyway he ditched my pitch yeah get that
- 27:40pitch but no business bully show.com you
- 27:42know somebody lying when they pick up
- 27:43their phone like you
- 27:45damn oh I had you blocked I'm so sorry
- 27:49no so you know it's it's it's an amazing
- 27:51time yeah I want I want you to come on
- 27:52the show too ye I think I think C can
- 27:54learn a lot from you yeah absolutely so
- 27:56business buly show.com all that good
- 27:57stuff salute to my man David Anderson
- 27:59AKA Taz Daddy go get the book pitch
- 28:01close upsell repeat this brother is very
- 28:04necessary in our communities man thank
- 28:06you for coming Taz well thank you for
- 28:07having me it's an honor and a privilege
- 28:08bro absolutely it's The Breakfast
- 28:11Club The Breakfast Club every weekday
- 28:14morning tune in
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