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1. 0:01when the defense attorney was
2. 0:03cross-examining the lead
3. 0:05investigator he got a half about halfway
4. 0:07through and the judge advised him to
5. 0:10take the fifth which investigator was
6. 0:12that this was Jimmy Patterson because
7. 0:14Patterson had wir tap and the the grave
8. 0:17site looking for a grave site confession
9. 0:21the fact that a police officer took the
10. 0:23Fifth Amendment to me as a jury that
11. 0:25would be the end of their credibility I
12. 0:27have never and I've testified I can't
13. 0:29take hundreds of homicide trials I have
14. 0:31never took a fifth amendment sitting on
15. 0:33the web it's against self-incrimination
16. 0:35and you're the you're the you're the
17. 0:37you're the officer the lead officer in
18. 0:38the case I can't imagine the judge
19. 0:40allowing a capital murder case to
20. 0:43continue when you can't cross-examine
21. 0:46the lead investigator because he took
22. 0:47the Fifth Amendment that's incredible
23. 0:49but I'm going to tell you there's not
24. 0:52one piece of direct
25. 0:54evidence not really one piece of
26. 0:56credible evidence why she should spend
27. 0:5810 years on death row would certainly be
28. 1:04executed you don't do that without a
29. 1:07court order you just can't wiretap
30. 1:09somebody listen to a conversation let
31. 1:11alone the uh the video the Audio I mean
32. 1:14that's police work 101 J you know that
33. 1:16stuff I think that it should have been
34. 1:18thrown that that whole thing should have
35. 1:20been thrown out based on the
36. 1:22investigator taking the Fifth Amendment
37. 1:24if those things are true I think it's
38. 1:25really big I mean uh to me it it sounds
39. 1:28like darly could be the wrong woman
40. 1:30in prison
41. 1:34really and something like this we have
42. 1:36all the circumstantial evidence I say
43. 1:38you know what go through everything
44. 1:41whatever it is if there's some DNA
45. 1:43evidence blood fingerprints whatever
46. 1:45take it all do it all test everything so
47. 1:48we could then we could at least say
48. 1:49listen we did everything the defense
49. 1:51asked we checked it all out they got the
50. 1:53Unexplained print and they they believe
51. 1:56they have some DNA on the sock and I
52. 1:58think that's why they got exhausted
53. 2:00these things because imagine putting
54. 2:02somebody there's no taking her back once
55. 2:04you execute her it's
56. 2:07[Music]
57. 2:08over calling Lieutenant David navis we
58. 2:12tried to follow up with the
59. 2:16cops hi this is Jerry Palace from qu TV
60. 2:20uh if you could please give me a
61. 2:22call
62. 2:24investigation hi this is Jerry Palace
63. 2:26from Court TV I'm looking forer patteron
64. 2:30around at Police Department this is
65. 2:32Jerry pal from Court TV I'd like to
66. 2:34leave a message for James patteron our
67. 2:37investigation took on a new sense of
68. 2:39urgency Reggie and I were becoming more
69. 2:42and more convinced that an innocent
70. 2:44woman might be sitting on death row and
71. 2:46the Clock Was ticking it's about these
72. 2:49two kids I mean they're the real victims
73. 2:51in this they were their life was cut so
74. 2:53short so fast Reggie what does it mean
75. 2:55if Dolly's innocent I'm the wrong person
76. 2:58in jail yeah and the right and the right
77. 3:01person is still out there that's the
78. 3:02real scary part man that a monster like
79. 3:05that could be out there I tell you one
80. 3:07thing i' be locking my
81. 3:09doors the next day we had a bombshell
82. 3:12dropped on
83. 3:13[Music]
84. 3:14us a story about Do's husband Darren
85. 3:18that came from out of left field
86. 3:21[Music]
87. 3:30the next day we met with skip
88. 3:31hollandsworth a local journalist who has
89. 3:34covered dar's case from the very
90. 3:35beginning beautiful area nice home he
91. 3:37claimed to have information about dar's
92. 3:39husband Darren that would blow our
93. 3:41investigation wide open
94. 3:45thanks if darly the victim says my
95. 3:48husband Darren had nothing to do with it
96. 3:51and the evidence and the prosecution
97. 3:52goes with her why would they go after
98. 3:54Darren why would they go after Darren
99. 3:56yeah I got to know this defense attorney
100. 3:59that was handling the appeals named
101. 4:00Steven Cooper and he said to me Darren's
102. 4:03father-in-law Bob key has suddenly
103. 4:05remembered Darren coming to him a few
104. 4:08weeks before the murder and
105. 4:10saying I am broke I need to find someone
106. 4:14who's going to break into my house steal
107. 4:16all my stuff my furniture my jewelry my
108. 4:20valuables hide it away in a U-Haul I
109. 4:22will claim the insurance get the
110. 4:25insurance money and I'll be back to even
111. 4:27and then load up my house with the
112. 4:29furniture that's been hidden away and I
113. 4:31said well is that true and Cooper says
114. 4:35go ask Darren go ask Darren so I made
115. 4:37Darren at a
116. 4:39restaurant and I
117. 4:41said did you hire somebody to try to
118. 4:43break into your home and burglarize it
119. 4:46and there was this long silence and he
120. 4:48says are you going to print this and I
121. 4:50said yeah and he said okay I did it I
122. 4:54was asking
123. 4:56around and I said did you hire anybody
124. 4:58he said I never hired
125. 5:00anybody but I did let the word out the
126. 5:04story changes everything if true because
127. 5:08it provides a motive it provides an
128. 5:11answer to a question that has haunted
129. 5:13everyone why would someone break into a
130. 5:16nicely lit home in the middle of the
131. 5:18night on the culdesac of a pleasant
132. 5:20little sub Suburban neighborhood and
133. 5:23just walk in and stab two kids to death
134. 5:26and cut the throat of their mother and
135. 5:28slice her across the arm and then walk
136. 5:30out well did you buy the story do you
137. 5:32think it was for real did you Darren was
138. 5:34hardly blameless there had been evidence
139. 5:36that he had uh tried to get someone to
140. 5:39steal his jaguar and take it to a Chop
141. 5:41Shop when he was going broke in
142. 5:431996 and there's always been the
143. 5:46question of what did Darren do after he
144. 5:50discovered that his children had been
145. 5:52stabbed to death mhm
146. 5:56and that mystery which the prosecutors
147. 6:00never went into during the trial because
148. 6:02their trial was focused solely on darly
149. 6:06and what was your next question to him
150. 6:08are you making up this story to give
151. 6:11darly some wiggle room so when the court
152. 6:13of appeals hears about this they might
153. 6:16give her a new trial and what was his
154. 6:17reply he said no and I said do you
155. 6:22realize that this story if found to be
156. 6:26true could put you on the spot and write
157. 6:29in the her trigger of The Da he goes
158. 6:32with a pause I want to tell you the
159. 6:34truth but I don't want to do anything
160. 6:37that might get me arrested and
161. 6:39railroaded like darling
162. 6:45did the outside chance that this could
163. 6:48be true and maybe he set up his home to
164. 6:50be burglarized and the word went out
165. 6:53yeah this guy's looking to get his house
166. 6:54burglarized and two guys one guy
167. 6:56whatever comes out and does this you
168. 6:59know know and it turns bad and he winds
169. 7:01up killing two kids and and trying to
170. 7:03kill Dary you know and it also leads to
171. 7:06the other side of the right man wrong
172. 7:09man who committed his homicide there is
173. 7:11some Reasonable Doubt about this whether
174. 7:14Dolly did this herself was she whether
175. 7:16she was helped by her husband or whether
176. 7:19he orchestrated this whole thing with a
177. 7:22a burglary attempt that one terribly bad
178. 7:25and two children wound up dead as a
179. 7:27result the bloody shck wasn't the only
180. 7:30piece of evidence that potentially
181. 7:31linked Darren to the crime an appeal
182. 7:34filed in the wake of dar's conviction
183. 7:37set out a number of facts that argued in
184. 7:39favor of reversing her guilty verdict
185. 7:42first a hair and a murder weapon matched
186. 7:44a known sample of Darren's hair second
187. 7:47while darly suffered multiple knife
188. 7:49wounds during the attack Darren was
189. 7:51totally unharmed third that Darren had a
190. 7:53powerful Financial motive to kill darly
191. 7:56his business was failing and he was
192. 7:58deeply in debt while darley's life was
193. 8:00insured for a quarter of a million
194. 8:02dollars and we also learned that because
195. 8:04dar's attorney had represented Darren on
196. 8:06another matter he couldn't argue that
197. 8:09Darren might have been involved in the
198. 8:12murders I don't even know how the judge
199. 8:14would allow anything like that yeah it's
200. 8:16quite strange I don't like that yeah I
201. 8:19wouldn't like that if that was my
202. 8:20attorney hey I want you to go after
203. 8:23anybody that might be guilty in a case
204. 8:25like this two young kids killed I mean
205. 8:28it's a horrible crime
206. 8:30[Music]
207. 8:32how does he get out of that crime scene
208. 8:34without leaving a Trice of
209. 8:36blood what did he do get up and fly out
210. 8:38of
211. 8:41there after nearly 6 weeks investigating
212. 8:44Dolly rouer's case we could finally see
213. 8:46a light at the end of the tunnel we just
214. 8:49found out that our request to meet with
215. 8:51Dolly herself was approved Reggie and I
216. 8:54were anxious to hear what she had to say
217. 8:56but today was about a local mechanic
218. 8:58named Barry f
219. 9:00who was rumored to have been solicited
220. 9:01by Darren back in the early 90s to take
221. 9:04part in an insurance scam if Barry was
222. 9:07involved in this supposedly conspiracy
223. 9:10to commit a burglary in a home get the
224. 9:12Intruder there that's a big thing you
225. 9:15know and Darren just didn't want to get
226. 9:17himself involved because he knows if he
227. 9:19gets himself involved he's going to be
228. 9:21taking Dolly spot guys like this always
229. 9:24around somebody knows him you know yeah
230. 9:29after a little asking around it was easy
231. 9:32enough to find F it seemed everyone
232. 9:34either knew him or knew someone who knew
233. 9:40him you're Barry five can we ask you a
234. 9:44question we wanted to talk to you about
235. 9:47the the dolly Rodier case do you
236. 9:49remember that yeah there were my
237. 9:50neighbors over there well apparently
238. 9:52there were allegations made about you
239. 9:56and Darren that he wanted to maybe
240. 9:59arranged for a burglary of his own house
241. 10:02you remember that he didn't talk to me
242. 10:04about it do you think dolly is the right
243. 10:06person do you know anything about darly
244. 10:07what kind of person she was I think he
245. 10:09did it I think he did it the whole time
246. 10:10you think he did it I think Darren did
247. 10:12it I just think he snapped you think
248. 10:15Darren SN yeah and when I went over
249. 10:17there the the first thing he told me he
250. 10:20said uh he said rough night he calleded
251. 10:23it a rough night that's it that's it
252. 10:25didn't say anything about the kids or
253. 10:27anything but if he he did run upstairs
254. 10:29and acted like he was asleeping or
255. 10:31whatever he did or you know why why why
256. 10:33why but why didn't he kill
257. 10:35Dolly I think he tried and she just
258. 10:38lived that's all I
259. 10:43think he thought that Darren is the one
260. 10:46that killed his children and cut his he
261. 10:48kind of denied the stolen C thing that
262. 10:52Darren ever came to him about his
263. 10:56Jaguar F told us that he believed Darren
264. 10:59had snapped due to his declining
265. 11:02financial situation and had killed his
266. 11:04two young boys in a blind rage the other
267. 11:07thing we have to find out about Darren
268. 11:09is any involvement with the Barry F you
269. 11:11know what about that is there any truth
270. 11:14to that and if so what was it I think at
271. 11:17this point he also knows that his name
272. 11:19is being dropped around oh yeah he knows
273. 11:22you know that he's could be involved in
274. 11:23this somehow information was now pouring
275. 11:26in and we discovered that 1998 Darren
276. 11:31had been given a li detective test
277. 11:33according to the police he had failed it
278. 11:36they made uh such a big thing about the
279. 11:38lie detector test right and we heard it
280. 11:40was confrontational and you know and I
281. 11:43know that once you get into a
282. 11:44confrontational position with the with
283. 11:47the person that's taking a test you
284. 11:48can't get an accurate reading on no no
285. 11:51no you
286. 11:52can't according to Darren's account of
287. 11:54the lie detector results he had failed
288. 11:57because the police had administered the
289. 11:59to test him properly but we sat down and
290. 12:01watched the tape for ourselves