Dantes, Tyler1, & Humzh Expose Riot’s Matchmaking Conspiracy — Transcript
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- 0:00Do you have time cuz I'll explain to you
- 0:01what I found out about loser's queue.
- 0:03Come
- 0:03>> Hams, your theory is not true.
- 0:05>> All right, are you ready to be
- 0:06destroyed?
- 0:07>> [laughter]
- 0:09>> Okay, prove prove to me your theory is
- 0:11right.
- 0:11>> Yo, Hams Hams it's not going to take
- 0:13long. I just had a question for you.
- 0:15When you played on your Hams hashtag
- 0:17saber accounts, right? You know how you
- 0:19went from plus 30 to like plus 27? Was
- 0:21it an account that when you started D1
- 0:23you had like 500 LP MMR or did you start
- 0:26with like in D1 with D1 MMR?
- 0:29Hams, I need to know this.
- 0:31>> [laughter]
- 0:38>> Hams
- 0:39>> Naddox, you are a funny ass guy, bro.
- 0:40>> No, I I I'm being dead serious. I know
- 0:42it's your day off.
- 0:42>> No, no, no, but you know you know I also
- 0:44wish I did I think dude was cute. No
- 0:46joke, look at my Hams hashtag chovy
- 0:47account. One of them.
- 0:48>> No, no, I I don't I don't have to. I
- 0:50There's something I need to tell you,
- 0:51okay? Do you have time or no?
- 0:52>> serious. Yes, I have time, but I'm in a
- 0:54ranked game. But go ahead. Okay, listen.
- 0:55Yo, look look at my Hams hashtag chovy
- 0:57account. Like I'm playing on stream and
- 0:59I'm on a huge win streak. But the other
- 1:01day I went literally literally one in
- 1:0317.
- 1:04>> Yes, I know. I know. But listen to me,
- 1:07okay? Listen. So, Riot has a system in
- 1:10place nowadays for the first time ever
- 1:12where you know how when you play more
- 1:14games and you get to a point where
- 1:15you're like plus 27 or plus 28?
- 1:17>> Right.
- 1:17>> If you are getting plus 28 uh minus 32
- 1:22or plus 29 or plus 30, then in 70% of
- 1:25your games you will play in a rank equal
- 1:28to or higher than where your current LP
- 1:31is, right? So, like imagine your 1800 LP
- 1:34and you're plus 28, you're going to sit
- 1:36there and you're going to play in like
- 1:37uh high grandmaster low chall lobbies
- 1:39almost every game. But the second you
- 1:41get to plus 26 or plus 27, you are now
- 1:44condemned, even if you're challenger, to
- 1:46getting master average rank lobbies and
- 1:48anywhere between 40 to 70% of your
- 1:51games. And the thing is that this is
- 1:53true for every single person on the
- 1:55ladder. Your LP gains completely
- 1:57determine your average match rank and
- 2:00nothing else fixes [music] it. Even if
- 2:02you win three 500 LP in a row, it
- 2:04doesn't matter because you're plus 27.
- 2:06>> So, you're saying if you're plus 27 and
- 2:07plus 26, you're going to be put in
- 2:09master lobbies no matter what rank you
- 2:10are. When you're plus 30, you're always
- 2:12going to be in challenger lobbies.
- 2:14>> It's not that you're always going to be,
- 2:15but it's just the fact that it's like
- 2:17it's like 70% of your games are either
- 2:19going to be grandmaster or master,
- 2:21right? And depending on whether you're
- 2:22above 28 or below 27, that's where Riot
- 2:27makes a determination.
- 2:28>> We have 4700
- 2:30>> asking? Like
- 2:31Like you do realize you can test this
- 2:34out you're like you could test it out
- 2:35with like other people's ranks.
- 2:37Like go to the ladder and see what the
- 2:38LP gains are with through you. op.gg
- 2:40and then see what their their matches
- 2:42are.
- 2:42>> Hums, I've already done this with
- 2:44literally 80 different accounts over the
- 2:46last like 2 hours.
- 2:47>> And are you sure that's what it is?
- 2:49>> Yes, I'm a 100% positive.
- 2:51>> 100% sure?
- 2:52>> I'd bet I'd bet my parents, my wife's,
- 2:55my cats' lives on what I'm saying right
- 2:56now.
- 2:57>> Your cats' lives?
- 2:58>> Yes.
- 2:59>> I was losing 34 LP and gaining 27 LP
- 3:02before I quit the account 1 month ago.
- 3:04>> Yes, I know. But what I'm saying is when
- 3:06your account first started and you're in
- 3:08diamond one, were you playing in 500 LP
- 3:11lobbies or were you playing in lower
- 3:13lobbies? Because the thing is that let's
- 3:15say you're playing in higher MMR, right?
- 3:17And then you lost more because you're
- 3:18playing in higher MMR, and then over
- 3:20time your MMR goes bad because of it,
- 3:22then it could be that it's worse to play
- 3:24on higher MMR than playing in lower MMR,
- 3:27getting easier gains but having higher
- 3:28win rate and maintaining the plus 30.
- 3:31>> Okay, when I was 478 LP I was gaining 31
- 3:33LP.
- 3:34>> Wait, when you're at how much? 478?
- 3:36>> 478 LP I was gaining 31 LP, win 93,
- 3:39loses 36. But wait, it it didn't reset
- 3:42from last season. So, it's that that the
- 3:44wins and losses don't really count. But
- 3:45I was plus 31 at 478 LP.
- 3:47>> So, when did it start going bad? Like
- 3:49when When you start going from like plus
- 3:5131 to like plus 28? Did you go on like
- 3:53an ultra loss streak?
- 3:54>> Probably, yes. When I went against more
- 3:56mages.
- 3:57>> Okay.
- 3:57>> Why are you playing on a D1 account?
- 3:59What the [ __ ]
- 4:00>> I'm not playing on my main. My main is
- 4:01[ __ ]
- 4:02>> Why? What is LP gains?
- 4:03>> Plus 27, 28.
- 4:05>> At what LP? Wait, you're losing 28 LP?
- 4:08>> No, I'm losing like 33.
- 4:09>> Yeah, but that's that's that's not bad.
- 4:11That's normal. At what LP? At what LP?
- 4:14>> 900.
- 4:15>> Bro, I'm literally 984 and I'm gaining
- 4:18uh what's 54 / 2?
- 4:21>> 26.
- 4:22>> That's what I'm gaining. I'm gaining 26
- 4:23LP.
- 4:24>> Yeah, well your account is shocked. GG,
- 4:26go a new one.
- 4:26>> No, I'm still going to climb.
- 4:28>> You're not going to. And even if you
- 4:29climb, it's going to be miserable cuz
- 4:31every game you're going to have like the
- 4:32most shitty teammates ever.
- 4:33>> Yeah, but then at that point I climb
- 4:35because yeah you know a wise man once
- 4:37said, "If you reach the top with rocks
- 4:40in your bag, it's a lot it's a lot it's
- 4:42a lot better than a guy reaching the top
- 4:44with no rocks in their bag."
- 4:45>> Yeah, and another wise man once said
- 4:48that streaming 9 hours because you're
- 4:50actually happy playing the game instead
- 4:51of streaming 4 hours cuz you're
- 4:53miserable is way better.
- 4:55>> So you're miserable based off you're
- 4:56miserable based off your LP gains.
- 4:58>> I'm miserable based off the fact that my
- 5:00LP gains cause me to play in full master
- 5:01lobbies 80% of my games.
- 5:04>> You're going to play in full master bro,
- 5:06get to the get to the get to the system.
- 5:08Every game you're playing with masters
- 5:10even in challenger.
- 5:11>> Calm
- 5:11>> Contest, your theory is not true. It's
- 5:14not.
- 5:14>> Okay.
- 5:15>> You're wrong.
- 5:15>> All right. Are you ready to be
- 5:16destroyed?
- 5:19>> Okay, prove prove to me your theory is
- 5:21right. Okay, let's go to Viper.
- 5:23>> No, no we're not going to Viper. I'll
- 5:25I'll go on a 2 people.
- 5:26>> No, let's go to Viper. Viper is rank
- 5:28one. No, he's rank one.
- 5:29>> You stupid Viper is not the average. Let
- 5:33me show you something.
- 5:34>> Viper is rank one, so I will check if
- 5:36Viper gets diamond players.
- 5:38>> Why would a guy with 2,000 LP
- 5:40>> support. Viper has like that
- 5:42>> Dude
- 5:42>> HE HAS A MASTERS A masters player, a
- 5:45challenger, grandmaster challenger,
- 5:48grandmaster challenger, grandmaster
- 5:51challenger. So, he's playing with
- 5:52grandmasters, challenger, and masters.
- 5:54His last game he just played.
- 5:56>> So, your theory is wrong.
- 5:57>> [laughter]
- 5:58>> Okay, I'm just before I literally in
- 6:00real life, can you open my stream on
- 6:02Discord? First person,
- 6:041,750 LP.
- 6:07Second person, 1,800 LP, right?
- 6:11>> Yeah.
- 6:12>> Check this out. This this guy, right?
- 6:15>> Yeah.
- 6:15>> His last 20 games, watch. Last 20 games.
- 6:191 2 3 4 5 6 7 master average lobbies,
- 6:26right? This guy, last 20 games, same
- 6:29rank.
- 6:30>> What up?
- 6:31>> What up?
- 6:32>> Wait, Ty, one second. Uh wait, Ty Tyler,
- 6:34I I need to I need to show you something
- 6:36that I learned.
- 6:36>> Wait, finish it. Finish it. Just finish
- 6:37it. Okay, keep keep scrolling.
- 6:38>> I will I will I Ty Tyler Tyler, open my
- 6:41screen share.
- 6:42>> He's not going to say just keep
- 6:43scrolling. He's just keep scrolling.
- 6:44He's playing
- 6:45>> I'M I'M EXPLAINING
- 6:46>> BRO, FINISH THE GUY. YOU CAN'T FINISH
- 6:48THE GUY.
- 6:48>> ARE KIND OF FUNKY RIGHT NOW. What's
- 6:49going on?
- 6:50>> No, Dantes has a stupid ass theory, bro.
- 6:52>> It's not a stupid theory, Hams. You
- 6:55Hams, you [ __ ] it's not a stupid
- 6:58theory, Tyler.
- 6:59>> a stupid theory.
- 7:00>> Okay. Okay, Tyler, right now the way
- 7:02that League of Legends works is if you
- 7:05gain 26 or 27 LP a game, your MMR is
- 7:08perma [ __ ] and you're playing in
- 7:10lobbies a thousand LP lower than your
- 7:11average in at least 50% of your games.
- 7:15If you have 20 or 29 LP gains, then it's
- 7:18only 30 to 40% okay? And I'm showing
- 7:21Hams that these are two different
- 7:23players, right? Tyler, are you
- 7:25following?
- 7:26>> Yes, I'm following you. Relax. I'm
- 7:27following
- 7:27>> 1,760
- 7:29LP, 1,800 LP. Not a big difference in
- 7:32LP, right?
- 7:33>> Yeah.
- 7:33>> Okay, good. So, now when we look at him,
- 7:37okay?
- 7:38In his last 20 games, 1 2
- 7:413
- 7:424 5 6 7 games of master average,
- 7:47correct?
- 7:48>> Yeah.
- 7:49>> We look at his LP gains.
- 7:51Plus 25 minus 35, right? He's had seven
- 7:56average master lobbies, okay?
- 8:00>> Okay.
- 8:00>> Same rank. Same rank. Check this out.
- 8:03Same rank.
- 8:04>> Yo. Hello.
- 8:05>> Yo, Pika. Come up for a second. Pika.
- 8:06>> What's up, Pika?
- 8:07>> Wait. Give me a second.
- 8:09>> Hey, don't talk to him LIKE THAT. BE
- 8:10NICE, PIKA.
- 8:11>> SHUT UP, BRO. I'M CRACKING BETTER THAN
- 8:13I. HE'S KIND OF COOKING HERE.
- 8:14>> OKAY, NO. HE'S NOT COOKING. He's a
- 8:16schizophrenic.
- 8:17>> NO, I AM.
- 8:17>> NO, HE'S NOT.
- 8:18>> NO, I'M NOT.
- 8:19>> NO, HE'S NOT.
- 8:20>> I LET me show you. Okay.
- 8:21>> The matchmaking is [ __ ] though. DON'T
- 8:22HIT THE MATCHMAKING BUTTON.
- 8:25>> TEARS OF WINTER. TEARS OF WINTER. ONE.
- 8:27ONE. HE HAD one master lobby average,
- 8:30right? One out of his last 20.
- 8:33>> Okay, now compare the time that they
- 8:34both play on.
- 8:35>> No. No. I'll begin with plus 29. Okay.
- 8:38And it gets crazier. Look, you can
- 8:40literally guess how much LP someone is
- 8:43gaining every game just by the average
- 8:45ranks in their games.
- 8:46>> Okay, okay. Okay, we don't got to go
- 8:48through all this. Wait. So, wait. Hamza,
- 8:49what
- 8:50what's your take on this, by the way?
- 8:52>> Bro, he's saying he's saying that you
- 8:55only get master lobbies if your LP gains
- 8:57are [ __ ] Yes.
- 9:01I don't I think everybody in every rank
- 9:03gets master lobbies.
- 9:04>> Yes, they all get master lobbies, but at
- 9:06different frequencies. If you get 28 or
- 9:0929 LP a game, then you are getting
- 9:11master lobbies.
- 9:13>> Okay, you can literally Okay, you can
- 9:14literally prove your your theory is
- 9:15wrong just by going to Viper.
- 9:18>> DUDE, THAT'S THE RANK ONE PLAYER.
- 9:21>> OKAY, LET'S GO TO THE RANK TWO PLAYER,
- 9:22THEN. OKAY, let's go to the rank two
- 9:23player.
- 9:23>> [ __ ]
- 9:24You cannot look at the rank one or rank
- 9:26two player to get an actual idea on how
- 9:29THE SYSTEM WORKS.
- 9:30>> YOUR THRESHOLD? OKAY, what's your
- 9:31threshold? What's your threshold?
- 9:32>> Uh rank, let's say let's say rank like,
- 9:35I don't know, 50.
- 9:37>> Rank 50? Okay, let's go to rank 50.
- 9:39Okay, let me check out
- 9:41>> THESE GUYS WERE RANK 70.
- 9:43>> Let me look at Schompus. Let me look at
- 9:45Schompus' game real quick, okay? Let's
- 9:46see how many master lobbies he gets.
- 9:49>> Like, this is the
- 9:50>> Bro, his his last five games were
- 9:52masters.
- 9:53>> Okay, now Okay, wait wait wait,
- 9:55Schompus, rank 50, right?
- 9:57>> Yes, masters and 1.8k.
- 9:59>> Okay, good. So, Schompus, 1.8k, he's
- 10:02getting all master lobbies, right?
- 10:05>> He might have lost 20
- 10:06>> Yeah.
- 10:07>> 35.
- 10:07>> So, if if Schompus, check this out,
- 10:09guys, I can make a prediction.
- 10:11>> [music]
- 10:11>> If Schompus gets this many master
- 10:13lobbies in this game, I'm betting you
- 10:14right now, it's either plus 26 or plus
- 10:1627.
- 10:18>> I bet he's right.
- 10:19>> Plus 27.
- 10:21>> Yeah, I bet he's right. I think he's
- 10:22right, actually. It's for sure plus
- 10:24>> go to this Let me go to this Al Mean
- 10:26Daiki guy. Yes, 1.9k LP, high win rate.
- 10:29Okay, let's check this guy out real
- 10:30quick.
- 10:31>> Yeah, but let's look at him.
- 10:32>> Plus 28 and minus 32. That's good LP
- 10:34game.
- 10:35>> Yes, but so he's [laughter] plus 28,
- 10:36RIGHT?
- 10:36>> YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN brainwashed if you
- 10:38say plus 28 minus 32 is good.
- 10:40>> Wait, Josh might be cooking. Wait, what
- 10:41the [ __ ]
- 10:42>> YES, BECAUSE HE
- 10:43YES, BECAUSE LIKE, how many If you look
- 10:45at his last 20 games, one master lobby,
- 10:48two mas- two
- 10:49>> wait, the guy also still has like one
- 10:50>> He He had three master lobbies out of
- 10:52his last 20, and he's plus 28.
- 10:55>> Wait, that's actually low-key true.
- 10:57>> YES, I'M TELLING YOU, DUDE. I was I was
- 10:59researching this for hours earlier
- 11:01today. Literally hours.
- 11:04>> No, no, let me let me Hold on, let me
- 11:06Okay, let me go to this Fiji guy. 67%
- 11:08win rate, okay. One, two,
- 11:12three.
- 11:13>> So, Fiji.
- 11:14>> Oh, yeah, actually spins.
- 11:15>> Yes, so he has one, two, three. He had
- 11:18three master lobbies. He's 100% plus 28.
- 11:21Guaranteed. Let's look. Open it up. He's
- 11:25plus 30. LIKE, HE'S HE'S ON PLUS 20,
- 11:27HE'S PLUS 30.
- 11:28>> WAIT, I WAIT WAIT, TYLER, this is
- 11:29actually true.
- 11:30>> I KNOW.
- 11:31>> [laughter]
- 11:31>> DUDE, I've been getting plus 26 minus 33
- 11:34for [ __ ] 2 months now.
- 11:36Guys, look. Another guy. Another guy.
- 11:38So, this guy, 1.8 KLP, right? How many
- 11:42master lobbies? One.
- 11:44Okay. Okay. Okay. Wait. Pause now. Pause
- 11:47now. Pause. Wait. Last one. Tyler. Last
- 11:48one. Last one. I believe it, dude. Wait.
- 11:50Last one. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11. 11
- 11:59master lobbies. I guarantee he's plus
- 12:0126.
- 12:02Plus 26 or 27. He's 25. LOOK, I'M
- 12:05TELLING YOU GUYS. I'M TELLING YOU GUYS
- 12:08it's a LITERALLY A THING WHERE IF YOU
- 12:10GET PLUS 28 or higher, you will only get
- 12:12like master lobbies in like four out of
- 12:14your last 20 games. But, if you are
- 12:16getting 27 or less, then it becomes a
- 12:19thing where it becomes the majority of
- 12:20your games.
- 12:22>> Yeah. So, it's like uh if you're doing
- 12:25well, Riot is like, "Okay." And they
- 12:28keep putting you in good lobbies. But,
- 12:29if you ever [ __ ] up, you're in like hell
- 12:31forever with these master lobbies.
- 12:33>> Yes, that's actually true.
- 12:34>> Yes.
- 12:35>> I see it. I see it.
- 12:37>> Yeah. I agree. I agree.
- 12:38>> But, why is that a thing?
- 12:39>> It's bugged. I don't It is So, there is
- 12:42something in the back of the code of
- 12:43matchmaking that is [ __ ] bugged. And
- 12:45it's been like this all year, and they
- 12:46can't figure it out.
- 12:48>> They they keep putting
- 12:49>> it's Valor [ __ ] too, by the way.
- 12:50>> Listen. I'll explain it to you guys.
- 12:52Listen to me. Cuz this is a theory that
- 12:54I've been thinking for like months, but
- 12:56now it's confirmed to me. The reason why
- 12:58it's like this is because Riot
- 13:01completely
- 13:03is super hypocritical. Because they tell
- 13:05you they don't want you to smurf, and
- 13:07they only want you to play on one
- 13:08accounts, right? When you play on one
- 13:09account, you get more Aegis of Valor's.
- 13:11The more Aegis of Valor's you get, your
- 13:13MMR doesn't double, so you only double
- 13:15your LP. So, your LP gains go lower. If
- 13:18you lose, right? Then it's like your MMR
- 13:21tanks even more. So, your Aegis plus
- 13:23loss combo ends up giving you nuked MMR.
- 13:26And the second this happens, it is
- 13:28impossible to salvage. You cannot go
- 13:31from 26 or 27 to plus 30 LP, no matter
- 13:34how many games you win, even if you win
- 13:36streak 50 in a row. So, your account
- 13:38literally just becomes perma-nuked.
- 13:40>> Yeah.
- 13:40>> Right. You're You're
- 13:41fully correct. 100%
- 13:43>> Okay, Dantes. Maybe you might be
- 13:44cooking.
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