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Dantes, Tyler1, & Humzh Expose Riot’s Matchmaking Conspiracy — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Do you have time cuz I'll explain to you
  2. 0:01what I found out about loser's queue.
  3. 0:03Come
  4. 0:03>> Hams, your theory is not true.
  5. 0:05>> All right, are you ready to be
  6. 0:06destroyed?
  7. 0:07>> [laughter]
  8. 0:09>> Okay, prove prove to me your theory is
  9. 0:11right.
  10. 0:11>> Yo, Hams Hams it's not going to take
  11. 0:13long. I just had a question for you.
  12. 0:15When you played on your Hams hashtag
  13. 0:17saber accounts, right? You know how you
  14. 0:19went from plus 30 to like plus 27? Was
  15. 0:21it an account that when you started D1
  16. 0:23you had like 500 LP MMR or did you start
  17. 0:26with like in D1 with D1 MMR?
  18. 0:29Hams, I need to know this.
  19. 0:31>> [laughter]
  20. 0:38>> Hams
  21. 0:39>> Naddox, you are a funny ass guy, bro.
  22. 0:40>> No, I I I'm being dead serious. I know
  23. 0:42it's your day off.
  24. 0:42>> No, no, no, but you know you know I also
  25. 0:44wish I did I think dude was cute. No
  26. 0:46joke, look at my Hams hashtag chovy
  27. 0:47account. One of them.
  28. 0:48>> No, no, I I don't I don't have to. I
  29. 0:50There's something I need to tell you,
  30. 0:51okay? Do you have time or no?
  31. 0:52>> serious. Yes, I have time, but I'm in a
  32. 0:54ranked game. But go ahead. Okay, listen.
  33. 0:55Yo, look look at my Hams hashtag chovy
  34. 0:57account. Like I'm playing on stream and
  35. 0:59I'm on a huge win streak. But the other
  36. 1:01day I went literally literally one in
  37. 1:0317.
  38. 1:04>> Yes, I know. I know. But listen to me,
  39. 1:07okay? Listen. So, Riot has a system in
  40. 1:10place nowadays for the first time ever
  41. 1:12where you know how when you play more
  42. 1:14games and you get to a point where
  43. 1:15you're like plus 27 or plus 28?
  44. 1:17>> Right.
  45. 1:17>> If you are getting plus 28 uh minus 32
  46. 1:22or plus 29 or plus 30, then in 70% of
  47. 1:25your games you will play in a rank equal
  48. 1:28to or higher than where your current LP
  49. 1:31is, right? So, like imagine your 1800 LP
  50. 1:34and you're plus 28, you're going to sit
  51. 1:36there and you're going to play in like
  52. 1:37uh high grandmaster low chall lobbies
  53. 1:39almost every game. But the second you
  54. 1:41get to plus 26 or plus 27, you are now
  55. 1:44condemned, even if you're challenger, to
  56. 1:46getting master average rank lobbies and
  57. 1:48anywhere between 40 to 70% of your
  58. 1:51games. And the thing is that this is
  59. 1:53true for every single person on the
  60. 1:55ladder. Your LP gains completely
  61. 1:57determine your average match rank and
  62. 2:00nothing else fixes [music] it. Even if
  63. 2:02you win three 500 LP in a row, it
  64. 2:04doesn't matter because you're plus 27.
  65. 2:06>> So, you're saying if you're plus 27 and
  66. 2:07plus 26, you're going to be put in
  67. 2:09master lobbies no matter what rank you
  68. 2:10are. When you're plus 30, you're always
  69. 2:12going to be in challenger lobbies.
  70. 2:14>> It's not that you're always going to be,
  71. 2:15but it's just the fact that it's like
  72. 2:17it's like 70% of your games are either
  73. 2:19going to be grandmaster or master,
  74. 2:21right? And depending on whether you're
  75. 2:22above 28 or below 27, that's where Riot
  76. 2:27makes a determination.
  77. 2:28>> We have 4700
  78. 2:30>> asking? Like
  79. 2:31Like you do realize you can test this
  80. 2:34out you're like you could test it out
  81. 2:35with like other people's ranks.
  82. 2:37Like go to the ladder and see what the
  83. 2:38LP gains are with through you. op.gg
  84. 2:40and then see what their their matches
  85. 2:42are.
  86. 2:42>> Hums, I've already done this with
  87. 2:44literally 80 different accounts over the
  88. 2:46last like 2 hours.
  89. 2:47>> And are you sure that's what it is?
  90. 2:49>> Yes, I'm a 100% positive.
  91. 2:51>> 100% sure?
  92. 2:52>> I'd bet I'd bet my parents, my wife's,
  93. 2:55my cats' lives on what I'm saying right
  94. 2:56now.
  95. 2:57>> Your cats' lives?
  96. 2:58>> Yes.
  97. 2:59>> I was losing 34 LP and gaining 27 LP
  98. 3:02before I quit the account 1 month ago.
  99. 3:04>> Yes, I know. But what I'm saying is when
  100. 3:06your account first started and you're in
  101. 3:08diamond one, were you playing in 500 LP
  102. 3:11lobbies or were you playing in lower
  103. 3:13lobbies? Because the thing is that let's
  104. 3:15say you're playing in higher MMR, right?
  105. 3:17And then you lost more because you're
  106. 3:18playing in higher MMR, and then over
  107. 3:20time your MMR goes bad because of it,
  108. 3:22then it could be that it's worse to play
  109. 3:24on higher MMR than playing in lower MMR,
  110. 3:27getting easier gains but having higher
  111. 3:28win rate and maintaining the plus 30.
  112. 3:31>> Okay, when I was 478 LP I was gaining 31
  113. 3:33LP.
  114. 3:34>> Wait, when you're at how much? 478?
  115. 3:36>> 478 LP I was gaining 31 LP, win 93,
  116. 3:39loses 36. But wait, it it didn't reset
  117. 3:42from last season. So, it's that that the
  118. 3:44wins and losses don't really count. But
  119. 3:45I was plus 31 at 478 LP.
  120. 3:47>> So, when did it start going bad? Like
  121. 3:49when When you start going from like plus
  122. 3:5131 to like plus 28? Did you go on like
  123. 3:53an ultra loss streak?
  124. 3:54>> Probably, yes. When I went against more
  125. 3:56mages.
  126. 3:57>> Okay.
  127. 3:57>> Why are you playing on a D1 account?
  128. 3:59What the [ __ ]
  129. 4:00>> I'm not playing on my main. My main is
  130. 4:01[ __ ]
  131. 4:02>> Why? What is LP gains?
  132. 4:03>> Plus 27, 28.
  133. 4:05>> At what LP? Wait, you're losing 28 LP?
  134. 4:08>> No, I'm losing like 33.
  135. 4:09>> Yeah, but that's that's that's not bad.
  136. 4:11That's normal. At what LP? At what LP?
  137. 4:14>> 900.
  138. 4:15>> Bro, I'm literally 984 and I'm gaining
  139. 4:18uh what's 54 / 2?
  140. 4:21>> 26.
  141. 4:22>> That's what I'm gaining. I'm gaining 26
  142. 4:23LP.
  143. 4:24>> Yeah, well your account is shocked. GG,
  144. 4:26go a new one.
  145. 4:26>> No, I'm still going to climb.
  146. 4:28>> You're not going to. And even if you
  147. 4:29climb, it's going to be miserable cuz
  148. 4:31every game you're going to have like the
  149. 4:32most shitty teammates ever.
  150. 4:33>> Yeah, but then at that point I climb
  151. 4:35because yeah you know a wise man once
  152. 4:37said, "If you reach the top with rocks
  153. 4:40in your bag, it's a lot it's a lot it's
  154. 4:42a lot better than a guy reaching the top
  155. 4:44with no rocks in their bag."
  156. 4:45>> Yeah, and another wise man once said
  157. 4:48that streaming 9 hours because you're
  158. 4:50actually happy playing the game instead
  159. 4:51of streaming 4 hours cuz you're
  160. 4:53miserable is way better.
  161. 4:55>> So you're miserable based off you're
  162. 4:56miserable based off your LP gains.
  163. 4:58>> I'm miserable based off the fact that my
  164. 5:00LP gains cause me to play in full master
  165. 5:01lobbies 80% of my games.
  166. 5:04>> You're going to play in full master bro,
  167. 5:06get to the get to the get to the system.
  168. 5:08Every game you're playing with masters
  169. 5:10even in challenger.
  170. 5:11>> Calm
  171. 5:11>> Contest, your theory is not true. It's
  172. 5:14not.
  173. 5:14>> Okay.
  174. 5:15>> You're wrong.
  175. 5:15>> All right. Are you ready to be
  176. 5:16destroyed?
  177. 5:19>> Okay, prove prove to me your theory is
  178. 5:21right. Okay, let's go to Viper.
  179. 5:23>> No, no we're not going to Viper. I'll
  180. 5:25I'll go on a 2 people.
  181. 5:26>> No, let's go to Viper. Viper is rank
  182. 5:28one. No, he's rank one.
  183. 5:29>> You stupid Viper is not the average. Let
  184. 5:33me show you something.
  185. 5:34>> Viper is rank one, so I will check if
  186. 5:36Viper gets diamond players.
  187. 5:38>> Why would a guy with 2,000 LP
  188. 5:40>> support. Viper has like that
  189. 5:42>> Dude
  190. 5:42>> HE HAS A MASTERS A masters player, a
  191. 5:45challenger, grandmaster challenger,
  192. 5:48grandmaster challenger, grandmaster
  193. 5:51challenger. So, he's playing with
  194. 5:52grandmasters, challenger, and masters.
  195. 5:54His last game he just played.
  196. 5:56>> So, your theory is wrong.
  197. 5:57>> [laughter]
  198. 5:58>> Okay, I'm just before I literally in
  199. 6:00real life, can you open my stream on
  200. 6:02Discord? First person,
  201. 6:041,750 LP.
  202. 6:07Second person, 1,800 LP, right?
  203. 6:11>> Yeah.
  204. 6:12>> Check this out. This this guy, right?
  205. 6:15>> Yeah.
  206. 6:15>> His last 20 games, watch. Last 20 games.
  207. 6:191 2 3 4 5 6 7 master average lobbies,
  208. 6:26right? This guy, last 20 games, same
  209. 6:29rank.
  210. 6:30>> What up?
  211. 6:31>> What up?
  212. 6:32>> Wait, Ty, one second. Uh wait, Ty Tyler,
  213. 6:34I I need to I need to show you something
  214. 6:36that I learned.
  215. 6:36>> Wait, finish it. Finish it. Just finish
  216. 6:37it. Okay, keep keep scrolling.
  217. 6:38>> I will I will I Ty Tyler Tyler, open my
  218. 6:41screen share.
  219. 6:42>> He's not going to say just keep
  220. 6:43scrolling. He's just keep scrolling.
  221. 6:44He's playing
  222. 6:45>> I'M I'M EXPLAINING
  223. 6:46>> BRO, FINISH THE GUY. YOU CAN'T FINISH
  224. 6:48THE GUY.
  225. 6:48>> ARE KIND OF FUNKY RIGHT NOW. What's
  226. 6:49going on?
  227. 6:50>> No, Dantes has a stupid ass theory, bro.
  228. 6:52>> It's not a stupid theory, Hams. You
  229. 6:55Hams, you [ __ ] it's not a stupid
  230. 6:58theory, Tyler.
  231. 6:59>> a stupid theory.
  232. 7:00>> Okay. Okay, Tyler, right now the way
  233. 7:02that League of Legends works is if you
  234. 7:05gain 26 or 27 LP a game, your MMR is
  235. 7:08perma [ __ ] and you're playing in
  236. 7:10lobbies a thousand LP lower than your
  237. 7:11average in at least 50% of your games.
  238. 7:15If you have 20 or 29 LP gains, then it's
  239. 7:18only 30 to 40% okay? And I'm showing
  240. 7:21Hams that these are two different
  241. 7:23players, right? Tyler, are you
  242. 7:25following?
  243. 7:26>> Yes, I'm following you. Relax. I'm
  244. 7:27following
  245. 7:27>> 1,760
  246. 7:29LP, 1,800 LP. Not a big difference in
  247. 7:32LP, right?
  248. 7:33>> Yeah.
  249. 7:33>> Okay, good. So, now when we look at him,
  250. 7:37okay?
  251. 7:38In his last 20 games, 1 2
  252. 7:413
  253. 7:424 5 6 7 games of master average,
  254. 7:47correct?
  255. 7:48>> Yeah.
  256. 7:49>> We look at his LP gains.
  257. 7:51Plus 25 minus 35, right? He's had seven
  258. 7:56average master lobbies, okay?
  259. 8:00>> Okay.
  260. 8:00>> Same rank. Same rank. Check this out.
  261. 8:03Same rank.
  262. 8:04>> Yo. Hello.
  263. 8:05>> Yo, Pika. Come up for a second. Pika.
  264. 8:06>> What's up, Pika?
  265. 8:07>> Wait. Give me a second.
  266. 8:09>> Hey, don't talk to him LIKE THAT. BE
  267. 8:10NICE, PIKA.
  268. 8:11>> SHUT UP, BRO. I'M CRACKING BETTER THAN
  269. 8:13I. HE'S KIND OF COOKING HERE.
  270. 8:14>> OKAY, NO. HE'S NOT COOKING. He's a
  271. 8:16schizophrenic.
  272. 8:17>> NO, I AM.
  273. 8:17>> NO, HE'S NOT.
  274. 8:18>> NO, I'M NOT.
  275. 8:19>> NO, HE'S NOT.
  276. 8:20>> I LET me show you. Okay.
  277. 8:21>> The matchmaking is [ __ ] though. DON'T
  278. 8:22HIT THE MATCHMAKING BUTTON.
  279. 8:25>> TEARS OF WINTER. TEARS OF WINTER. ONE.
  280. 8:27ONE. HE HAD one master lobby average,
  281. 8:30right? One out of his last 20.
  282. 8:33>> Okay, now compare the time that they
  283. 8:34both play on.
  284. 8:35>> No. No. I'll begin with plus 29. Okay.
  285. 8:38And it gets crazier. Look, you can
  286. 8:40literally guess how much LP someone is
  287. 8:43gaining every game just by the average
  288. 8:45ranks in their games.
  289. 8:46>> Okay, okay. Okay, we don't got to go
  290. 8:48through all this. Wait. So, wait. Hamza,
  291. 8:49what
  292. 8:50what's your take on this, by the way?
  293. 8:52>> Bro, he's saying he's saying that you
  294. 8:55only get master lobbies if your LP gains
  295. 8:57are [ __ ] Yes.
  296. 9:01I don't I think everybody in every rank
  297. 9:03gets master lobbies.
  298. 9:04>> Yes, they all get master lobbies, but at
  299. 9:06different frequencies. If you get 28 or
  300. 9:0929 LP a game, then you are getting
  301. 9:11master lobbies.
  302. 9:13>> Okay, you can literally Okay, you can
  303. 9:14literally prove your your theory is
  304. 9:15wrong just by going to Viper.
  305. 9:18>> DUDE, THAT'S THE RANK ONE PLAYER.
  306. 9:21>> OKAY, LET'S GO TO THE RANK TWO PLAYER,
  307. 9:22THEN. OKAY, let's go to the rank two
  308. 9:23player.
  309. 9:23>> [ __ ]
  310. 9:24You cannot look at the rank one or rank
  311. 9:26two player to get an actual idea on how
  312. 9:29THE SYSTEM WORKS.
  313. 9:30>> YOUR THRESHOLD? OKAY, what's your
  314. 9:31threshold? What's your threshold?
  315. 9:32>> Uh rank, let's say let's say rank like,
  316. 9:35I don't know, 50.
  317. 9:37>> Rank 50? Okay, let's go to rank 50.
  318. 9:39Okay, let me check out
  319. 9:41>> THESE GUYS WERE RANK 70.
  320. 9:43>> Let me look at Schompus. Let me look at
  321. 9:45Schompus' game real quick, okay? Let's
  322. 9:46see how many master lobbies he gets.
  323. 9:49>> Like, this is the
  324. 9:50>> Bro, his his last five games were
  325. 9:52masters.
  326. 9:53>> Okay, now Okay, wait wait wait,
  327. 9:55Schompus, rank 50, right?
  328. 9:57>> Yes, masters and 1.8k.
  329. 9:59>> Okay, good. So, Schompus, 1.8k, he's
  330. 10:02getting all master lobbies, right?
  331. 10:05>> He might have lost 20
  332. 10:06>> Yeah.
  333. 10:07>> 35.
  334. 10:07>> So, if if Schompus, check this out,
  335. 10:09guys, I can make a prediction.
  336. 10:11>> [music]
  337. 10:11>> If Schompus gets this many master
  338. 10:13lobbies in this game, I'm betting you
  339. 10:14right now, it's either plus 26 or plus
  340. 10:1627.
  341. 10:18>> I bet he's right.
  342. 10:19>> Plus 27.
  343. 10:21>> Yeah, I bet he's right. I think he's
  344. 10:22right, actually. It's for sure plus
  345. 10:24>> go to this Let me go to this Al Mean
  346. 10:26Daiki guy. Yes, 1.9k LP, high win rate.
  347. 10:29Okay, let's check this guy out real
  348. 10:30quick.
  349. 10:31>> Yeah, but let's look at him.
  350. 10:32>> Plus 28 and minus 32. That's good LP
  351. 10:34game.
  352. 10:35>> Yes, but so he's [laughter] plus 28,
  353. 10:36RIGHT?
  354. 10:36>> YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN brainwashed if you
  355. 10:38say plus 28 minus 32 is good.
  356. 10:40>> Wait, Josh might be cooking. Wait, what
  357. 10:41the [ __ ]
  358. 10:42>> YES, BECAUSE HE
  359. 10:43YES, BECAUSE LIKE, how many If you look
  360. 10:45at his last 20 games, one master lobby,
  361. 10:48two mas- two
  362. 10:49>> wait, the guy also still has like one
  363. 10:50>> He He had three master lobbies out of
  364. 10:52his last 20, and he's plus 28.
  365. 10:55>> Wait, that's actually low-key true.
  366. 10:57>> YES, I'M TELLING YOU, DUDE. I was I was
  367. 10:59researching this for hours earlier
  368. 11:01today. Literally hours.
  369. 11:04>> No, no, let me let me Hold on, let me
  370. 11:06Okay, let me go to this Fiji guy. 67%
  371. 11:08win rate, okay. One, two,
  372. 11:12three.
  373. 11:13>> So, Fiji.
  374. 11:14>> Oh, yeah, actually spins.
  375. 11:15>> Yes, so he has one, two, three. He had
  376. 11:18three master lobbies. He's 100% plus 28.
  377. 11:21Guaranteed. Let's look. Open it up. He's
  378. 11:25plus 30. LIKE, HE'S HE'S ON PLUS 20,
  379. 11:27HE'S PLUS 30.
  380. 11:28>> WAIT, I WAIT WAIT, TYLER, this is
  381. 11:29actually true.
  382. 11:30>> I KNOW.
  383. 11:31>> [laughter]
  384. 11:31>> DUDE, I've been getting plus 26 minus 33
  385. 11:34for [ __ ] 2 months now.
  386. 11:36Guys, look. Another guy. Another guy.
  387. 11:38So, this guy, 1.8 KLP, right? How many
  388. 11:42master lobbies? One.
  389. 11:44Okay. Okay. Okay. Wait. Pause now. Pause
  390. 11:47now. Pause. Wait. Last one. Tyler. Last
  391. 11:48one. Last one. I believe it, dude. Wait.
  392. 11:50Last one. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11. 11
  393. 11:59master lobbies. I guarantee he's plus
  394. 12:0126.
  395. 12:02Plus 26 or 27. He's 25. LOOK, I'M
  396. 12:05TELLING YOU GUYS. I'M TELLING YOU GUYS
  397. 12:08it's a LITERALLY A THING WHERE IF YOU
  398. 12:10GET PLUS 28 or higher, you will only get
  399. 12:12like master lobbies in like four out of
  400. 12:14your last 20 games. But, if you are
  401. 12:16getting 27 or less, then it becomes a
  402. 12:19thing where it becomes the majority of
  403. 12:20your games.
  404. 12:22>> Yeah. So, it's like uh if you're doing
  405. 12:25well, Riot is like, "Okay." And they
  406. 12:28keep putting you in good lobbies. But,
  407. 12:29if you ever [ __ ] up, you're in like hell
  408. 12:31forever with these master lobbies.
  409. 12:33>> Yes, that's actually true.
  410. 12:34>> Yes.
  411. 12:35>> I see it. I see it.
  412. 12:37>> Yeah. I agree. I agree.
  413. 12:38>> But, why is that a thing?
  414. 12:39>> It's bugged. I don't It is So, there is
  415. 12:42something in the back of the code of
  416. 12:43matchmaking that is [ __ ] bugged. And
  417. 12:45it's been like this all year, and they
  418. 12:46can't figure it out.
  419. 12:48>> They they keep putting
  420. 12:49>> it's Valor [ __ ] too, by the way.
  421. 12:50>> Listen. I'll explain it to you guys.
  422. 12:52Listen to me. Cuz this is a theory that
  423. 12:54I've been thinking for like months, but
  424. 12:56now it's confirmed to me. The reason why
  425. 12:58it's like this is because Riot
  426. 13:01completely
  427. 13:03is super hypocritical. Because they tell
  428. 13:05you they don't want you to smurf, and
  429. 13:07they only want you to play on one
  430. 13:08accounts, right? When you play on one
  431. 13:09account, you get more Aegis of Valor's.
  432. 13:11The more Aegis of Valor's you get, your
  433. 13:13MMR doesn't double, so you only double
  434. 13:15your LP. So, your LP gains go lower. If
  435. 13:18you lose, right? Then it's like your MMR
  436. 13:21tanks even more. So, your Aegis plus
  437. 13:23loss combo ends up giving you nuked MMR.
  438. 13:26And the second this happens, it is
  439. 13:28impossible to salvage. You cannot go
  440. 13:31from 26 or 27 to plus 30 LP, no matter
  441. 13:34how many games you win, even if you win
  442. 13:36streak 50 in a row. So, your account
  443. 13:38literally just becomes perma-nuked.
  444. 13:40>> Yeah.
  445. 13:40>> Right. You're You're
  446. 13:41fully correct. 100%
  447. 13:43>> Okay, Dantes. Maybe you might be
  448. 13:44cooking.

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