Customers Trust You. Can They Trust Your Team? | The Operator’s Edge Ep. 3 — Transcript
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- 0:01The Operator's Edge, episode three.
- 0:04They're not coming back to the shop,
- 0:06they're coming back to you.
- 0:08You can buy the equipment, you can buy
- 0:10the lifts, you can take over the lease,
- 0:12the phone number,
- 0:13and the building, the name on the
- 0:15building,
- 0:17but
- 0:18that doesn't automatically mean you got
- 0:20the relationships
- 0:22with
- 0:24all of that.
- 0:26If you can build a business where people
- 0:27trust you so much,
- 0:29they'll drive an hour to see you.
- 0:31That's pretty special. That's pretty
- 0:32powerful.
- 0:34That's the ultimate goal.
- 0:37But if the trust can't move beyond you,
- 0:38you got a problem.
- 0:41Waiting for the day you're not there.
- 0:43Day off, vacation,
- 0:46or you're getting ready to
- 0:47hang it up or try something new.
- 0:49Today I want to talk about a couple of
- 0:50people that
- 0:52helped shape how I think about this
- 0:54situation.
- 0:56One's my uncle.
- 0:58The other's a guy named Big Joe.
- 1:00Two different situations, one lesson.
- 1:03It matters anybody try to build an
- 1:05operation that lasts.
- 1:07So when they move on,
- 1:09it'll still thrive.
- 1:11Be the reason they come back, and build
- 1:13the operation so you no longer have to
- 1:15be the only reason.
- 1:17My uncle's story, you know, what
- 1:19actually transfers when you buy a
- 1:20business?
- 1:21I was a kid, I'd spend a lot of time in
- 1:23my uncle's shop.
- 1:25He worked on a couple of my buddies'
- 1:26cars,
- 1:28whatever location he was at. East
- 1:31Denver, West Denver, South Denver, it
- 1:32didn't matter.
- 1:34But he ended up in South Littleton,
- 1:36a shop off Highway 85 and C470, like 45
- 1:38minutes to an hour, sometimes an hour
- 1:40and a half from where we lived.
- 1:42But we'd go down there and see him
- 1:43anyway because
- 1:45obviously we knew it was my uncle, and
- 1:46he'd treat us well, and
- 1:48we trusted him obviously, and we'd
- 1:49listen to him and his other
- 1:51customers, and it was just a good
- 1:53environment to be in a shop.
- 1:56And
- 1:57the last shop that he he was he was at
- 2:00that that location, he ended up
- 2:02purchasing the business.
- 2:05And seemed like a pretty good deal.
- 2:07I knew the owner from being down there a
- 2:09couple times and
- 2:10he and my uncle had a great
- 2:11relationship. They had a lot in common.
- 2:14Not only just the cars thing, but much
- 2:15of other stuff and
- 2:17I used to remember the time they went to
- 2:19Don Frisco's to celebrate
- 2:22the the selling and the buying of the
- 2:23business, the transfer dinner, which was
- 2:25awesome.
- 2:27And
- 2:28I just remember how
- 2:30excited and pumped everybody was.
- 2:33Everybody was taking the next step and
- 2:36it was a good deal for everybody.
- 2:39So, we just continued to
- 2:40go down there and see
- 2:42my uncle and his technician.
- 2:45He's also a good dude.
- 2:48And we drive an hour and a half drive
- 2:49sometimes
- 2:51once or twice a month
- 2:53depending on how we rotated. You know,
- 2:55cuz we drove a lot downtown school as
- 2:58well.
- 2:59Just to see my uncle because we knew
- 3:01that we were going to get good service
- 3:02just in not just because my uncle.
- 3:05My buddies trusted him.
- 3:07His customers trusted him.
- 3:09His customers drove from all the way
- 3:11East Denver all the way out to see him.
- 3:14Then the business has slowed down.
- 3:17And I really couldn't figure out why
- 3:20cuz it was rapid.
- 3:23Long story short, I was watching my
- 3:25uncle
- 3:26sell cars to
- 3:28pay the bills and things like that, flip
- 3:30cars, which is a pretty good business.
- 3:33I just understand why he couldn't do
- 3:35normal
- 3:36repair work.
- 3:38And the long story short is that the
- 3:40gentleman who he purchased the
- 3:42shop from
- 3:45opened up a
- 3:47a classic car restoration
- 3:50shop few doors down.
- 3:53And then he ended up taking some of his
- 3:54old customers away and
- 3:56not really knowing what was all said,
- 4:00it just seemed really weird that that
- 4:01was going on and there was a lot of
- 4:03tension
- 4:04in the shop, which I'd never felt
- 4:05before.
- 4:07See that that the former owner was three
- 4:10doors down.
- 4:12I understood the frustration and the
- 4:14discouragement
- 4:15and ultimately I wish there was more
- 4:16that I could do.
- 4:19But
- 4:20we didn't know that was going to happen.
- 4:23He didn't know that certain things
- 4:26were going to happen after the fact
- 4:27based upon the relationship.
- 4:30And ultimately
- 4:32it's just something that happens.
- 4:34You got to fight through
- 4:36but I did really struggle for a few
- 4:37years but he got on top and
- 4:40looking back
- 4:41I just wish that I had
- 4:43more knowledge and experience that could
- 4:45have helped us back in the day to
- 4:46maybe secure some more
- 4:49cars coming in so sales and stuff but
- 4:52I got a learning experience out of it
- 4:53and it helped me understand a lot of
- 4:56different aspects of not only the
- 4:58automotive business but
- 4:59just business in general.
- 5:01It changed some of the questions that I
- 5:02ask today for sure.
- 5:05Like when a business changes hands,
- 5:06what's actually transferring?
- 5:09Is it just the equipment? Is it just the
- 5:11location?
- 5:13Is it just a name?
- 5:15Or the trust that makes somebody pick up
- 5:16the phone and come back?
- 5:18Those are completely different things.
- 5:21We got Big Joe.
- 5:23The store manager
- 5:25is the whole operation.
- 5:27He did a lot.
- 5:28With a low car count
- 5:31he made every ticket count.
- 5:33He sure did.
- 5:35He would sell everything and then fix it
- 5:37all and then
- 5:39move on to the next one.
- 5:41Uses junior technicians to just help him
- 5:43out and service advisor, which he very
- 5:45rarely had one or two extras.
- 5:48It was just usually just him and one
- 5:49other.
- 5:51And he did it with heart passion that
- 5:54most people don't have.
- 5:55Cuz he just wanted to win,
- 5:57provide for his family, and his
- 5:59teammates.
- 6:01And that's what it was all about for Big
- 6:02Joe.
- 6:04I remember the first time we met,
- 6:07he was so proud of the million bucks.
- 6:08And I said, "You can do so much more if
- 6:10you just
- 6:12branch out a little bit.
- 6:14Start teaching some other people take
- 6:16the reins to some others and show them
- 6:19what you know, Big Joe."
- 6:21But that was very difficult for him.
- 6:24Some of the things that he grew up
- 6:26doing, he just needed to do by himself.
- 6:28And
- 6:29that's all right, I get it.
- 6:31It's hard to
- 6:32let go and teach and coach. It's a very
- 6:34difficult thing to do.
- 6:36But ultimately,
- 6:39he started to pick up on some stuff.
- 6:41He bought in.
- 6:43We taught him a lot.
- 6:46He learned a lot. He was coachable.
- 6:48He's very coachable and I remember this
- 6:50one time
- 6:53I was hanging out in the shop with him
- 6:54and we did this
- 6:56brake sale together and
- 6:58we're going back and forth and just
- 7:00talking.
- 7:01And that transferred communication
- 7:03between each other in the moment
- 7:05watching the customer just light up,
- 7:08having some fun with the technicians.
- 7:10After we sold the job, he looked at me
- 7:12and says,
- 7:13"That was awesome."
- 7:15I can't believe I just did that with
- 7:17you. I was like, "Dude, that was cool."
- 7:20And that's when I knew that we had a
- 7:21good relationship and
- 7:22special relationship that
- 7:25he was going to go somewhere from my
- 7:26teaching. He was going to go somewhere
- 7:28as he wanted to and he had every
- 7:31intention to be the best.
- 7:33What you do what you do
- 7:36so that you can move on or you can exit
- 7:39and the store will keep running in the
- 7:42direction that it should
- 7:44because you have people underneath you
- 7:45that are growing.
- 7:47Cuz ultimately that's what it's about.
- 7:49That's what it's That's the difficult
- 7:51part.
- 7:53And here's where the two stories meet.
- 7:55While the question is whether the
- 7:56relationships
- 7:58transfer with the business.
- 8:02And with Joe, the question is whether
- 8:04the relationships can extend beyond the
- 8:06person who built them.
- 8:08In both cases, you just can't assume
- 8:10that it happens.
- 8:12You've got to plan for it.
- 8:14You have to do the work.
- 8:16You have to start with the person.
- 8:19You have to build the trust. You have to
- 8:21earn the loyalty.
- 8:23And you got to teach the team the
- 8:24behaviors
- 8:25that earned it.
- 8:27That's where the difficult part comes
- 8:29into play.
- 8:31Those behaviors have to be a part of
- 8:33everything that you do every single day.
- 8:35You have to
- 8:36speak the why every single day and the
- 8:39how. Teach the how.
- 8:42That's how you give yourself a chance
- 8:45to exit the right way with somebody
- 8:48taking
- 8:49the reins and going to the next level
- 8:51in your place.
- 8:53If you're an owner or manager,
- 8:56we're going to do a little exercise and
- 8:57I know we're starting with three things.
- 8:59First, identifying
- 9:01customer experience that
- 9:03still depends on you.
- 9:06Who gets asked for by name? Who handles
- 9:08the difficult conversation?
- 9:10Who gets called when the customer
- 9:11doesn't understand the recommendation?
- 9:16Pay attention to those moments
- 9:18cuz that's where the trust lives.
- 9:20Second,
- 9:22make the way you handle those moments
- 9:24teachable.
- 9:26Bring somebody with you.
- 9:28Let them listen.
- 9:30Let them hear how you talk to them.
- 9:32Walk them through with the why
- 9:34you asked the question.
- 9:36Show them how you respond to the
- 9:37customer when they're frustrated.
- 9:39Every little step matters in this.
- 9:43Don't just give me the answer. That
- 9:44doesn't do anything.
- 9:46Help them understand the judgment behind
- 9:47it.
- 9:49Third,
- 9:50introduce the team
- 9:53before you disappear from the
- 9:54relationship. During the coaching
- 9:56moment, during the
- 9:58day off exit, during the vacation exit,
- 10:00or
- 10:01during the exit.
- 10:03Let the customer hear you express the
- 10:04confidence that the person that's going
- 10:06to be taking over for you is the person
- 10:07to take care of them
- 10:10for the next
- 10:11however long.
- 10:13Because you have to be the bridge of
- 10:15trust.
- 10:17And your team needs more responsibility
- 10:19and they need to understand
- 10:21that you trust them and you believe in
- 10:22them
- 10:23and that will make them follow through.
- 10:26So, try one hand off this week.
- 10:28Here's something practical that you can
- 10:29do.
- 10:31Take one customer interaction that
- 10:32normally comes straight to you.
- 10:34One. Just don't try to rebuild the whole
- 10:36business.
- 10:37One.
- 10:39Have a team member
- 10:40watch you handle it.
- 10:43Explain what you did.
- 10:45Why you did it.
- 10:47The reasoning behind it.
- 10:50Then have them handle the next one
- 10:52while you're right next to them.
- 10:55And then talk about it.
- 10:57What went well?
- 10:59Where did they hesitate?
- 11:01Where did they need more confidence or
- 11:02knowledge
- 11:03or assertiveness
- 11:05or awareness?
- 11:07The conversation matters because if
- 11:09every handoff
- 11:10ends with you jumping back in and and
- 11:13taking over, well, you haven't done your
- 11:15job.
- 11:17Just start small. It takes time.
- 11:20Be honest with your your teammate.
- 11:23You're learning just as much as they
- 11:24are. And when you go at it like that,
- 11:25then
- 11:26that's really special because they know
- 11:28that you're just trying the best that
- 11:29you can. They They understand that you
- 11:32you believe in them and they're trying
- 11:33the best that they can.
- 11:35The goal is to grow someone who can take
- 11:37care of the
- 11:38customer and make a sound decision when
- 11:40you're busy, out of the building,
- 11:42or working on something so that you can
- 11:43take your time.
- 11:45That's what it's about.
- 11:47Taking your time is very important.
- 11:49Being able to
- 11:51reflect
- 11:53is extremely important.
- 11:56In closing, I think about my alcohol and
- 11:57I think about Joe
- 11:59and the stories behind each of these
- 12:01businesses and what they went through.
- 12:05The years that they put into them, the
- 12:06energy, the relationships, and the hope
- 12:09that the work is building something.
- 12:11And I want that every time a better
- 12:12chance of lasting, so that means paying
- 12:14attention to
- 12:15what actually makes people come back.
- 12:18If it's you that own that, be proud.
- 12:20Be proud of the trust that you've
- 12:21earned.
- 12:23Then develop the people
- 12:25who you work with
- 12:27who can carry with you
- 12:29and to the next level without you.
- 12:32Be the reason they come back.
- 12:35Then build the operation so that
- 12:37you're no longer the only reason.
- 12:39This is the operator's edge.
- 12:41This page is thinking of an owner or
- 12:42manager who carries everything. Send it
- 12:44to them.
- 12:46And tell me this, what's one thing in
- 12:47your operation that you still can't
- 12:49leave,
- 12:51take your hands off of,
- 12:53or can't happen without you?
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