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Customers Trust You. Can They Trust Your Team? | The Operator’s Edge Ep. 3 — Transcript

by Ryan Boccaccio | The Operator’s Edge · 2,040 words · 391 segments · language en · Watch on YouTube

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  1. 0:01The Operator's Edge, episode three.
  2. 0:04They're not coming back to the shop,
  3. 0:06they're coming back to you.
  4. 0:08You can buy the equipment, you can buy
  5. 0:10the lifts, you can take over the lease,
  6. 0:12the phone number,
  7. 0:13and the building, the name on the
  8. 0:15building,
  9. 0:17but
  10. 0:18that doesn't automatically mean you got
  11. 0:20the relationships
  12. 0:22with
  13. 0:24all of that.
  14. 0:26If you can build a business where people
  15. 0:27trust you so much,
  16. 0:29they'll drive an hour to see you.
  17. 0:31That's pretty special. That's pretty
  18. 0:32powerful.
  19. 0:34That's the ultimate goal.
  20. 0:37But if the trust can't move beyond you,
  21. 0:38you got a problem.
  22. 0:41Waiting for the day you're not there.
  23. 0:43Day off, vacation,
  24. 0:46or you're getting ready to
  25. 0:47hang it up or try something new.
  26. 0:49Today I want to talk about a couple of
  27. 0:50people that
  28. 0:52helped shape how I think about this
  29. 0:54situation.
  30. 0:56One's my uncle.
  31. 0:58The other's a guy named Big Joe.
  32. 1:00Two different situations, one lesson.
  33. 1:03It matters anybody try to build an
  34. 1:05operation that lasts.
  35. 1:07So when they move on,
  36. 1:09it'll still thrive.
  37. 1:11Be the reason they come back, and build
  38. 1:13the operation so you no longer have to
  39. 1:15be the only reason.
  40. 1:17My uncle's story, you know, what
  41. 1:19actually transfers when you buy a
  42. 1:20business?
  43. 1:21I was a kid, I'd spend a lot of time in
  44. 1:23my uncle's shop.
  45. 1:25He worked on a couple of my buddies'
  46. 1:26cars,
  47. 1:28whatever location he was at. East
  48. 1:31Denver, West Denver, South Denver, it
  49. 1:32didn't matter.
  50. 1:34But he ended up in South Littleton,
  51. 1:36a shop off Highway 85 and C470, like 45
  52. 1:38minutes to an hour, sometimes an hour
  53. 1:40and a half from where we lived.
  54. 1:42But we'd go down there and see him
  55. 1:43anyway because
  56. 1:45obviously we knew it was my uncle, and
  57. 1:46he'd treat us well, and
  58. 1:48we trusted him obviously, and we'd
  59. 1:49listen to him and his other
  60. 1:51customers, and it was just a good
  61. 1:53environment to be in a shop.
  62. 1:56And
  63. 1:57the last shop that he he was he was at
  64. 2:00that that location, he ended up
  65. 2:02purchasing the business.
  66. 2:05And seemed like a pretty good deal.
  67. 2:07I knew the owner from being down there a
  68. 2:09couple times and
  69. 2:10he and my uncle had a great
  70. 2:11relationship. They had a lot in common.
  71. 2:14Not only just the cars thing, but much
  72. 2:15of other stuff and
  73. 2:17I used to remember the time they went to
  74. 2:19Don Frisco's to celebrate
  75. 2:22the the selling and the buying of the
  76. 2:23business, the transfer dinner, which was
  77. 2:25awesome.
  78. 2:27And
  79. 2:28I just remember how
  80. 2:30excited and pumped everybody was.
  81. 2:33Everybody was taking the next step and
  82. 2:36it was a good deal for everybody.
  83. 2:39So, we just continued to
  84. 2:40go down there and see
  85. 2:42my uncle and his technician.
  86. 2:45He's also a good dude.
  87. 2:48And we drive an hour and a half drive
  88. 2:49sometimes
  89. 2:51once or twice a month
  90. 2:53depending on how we rotated. You know,
  91. 2:55cuz we drove a lot downtown school as
  92. 2:58well.
  93. 2:59Just to see my uncle because we knew
  94. 3:01that we were going to get good service
  95. 3:02just in not just because my uncle.
  96. 3:05My buddies trusted him.
  97. 3:07His customers trusted him.
  98. 3:09His customers drove from all the way
  99. 3:11East Denver all the way out to see him.
  100. 3:14Then the business has slowed down.
  101. 3:17And I really couldn't figure out why
  102. 3:20cuz it was rapid.
  103. 3:23Long story short, I was watching my
  104. 3:25uncle
  105. 3:26sell cars to
  106. 3:28pay the bills and things like that, flip
  107. 3:30cars, which is a pretty good business.
  108. 3:33I just understand why he couldn't do
  109. 3:35normal
  110. 3:36repair work.
  111. 3:38And the long story short is that the
  112. 3:40gentleman who he purchased the
  113. 3:42shop from
  114. 3:45opened up a
  115. 3:47a classic car restoration
  116. 3:50shop few doors down.
  117. 3:53And then he ended up taking some of his
  118. 3:54old customers away and
  119. 3:56not really knowing what was all said,
  120. 4:00it just seemed really weird that that
  121. 4:01was going on and there was a lot of
  122. 4:03tension
  123. 4:04in the shop, which I'd never felt
  124. 4:05before.
  125. 4:07See that that the former owner was three
  126. 4:10doors down.
  127. 4:12I understood the frustration and the
  128. 4:14discouragement
  129. 4:15and ultimately I wish there was more
  130. 4:16that I could do.
  131. 4:19But
  132. 4:20we didn't know that was going to happen.
  133. 4:23He didn't know that certain things
  134. 4:26were going to happen after the fact
  135. 4:27based upon the relationship.
  136. 4:30And ultimately
  137. 4:32it's just something that happens.
  138. 4:34You got to fight through
  139. 4:36but I did really struggle for a few
  140. 4:37years but he got on top and
  141. 4:40looking back
  142. 4:41I just wish that I had
  143. 4:43more knowledge and experience that could
  144. 4:45have helped us back in the day to
  145. 4:46maybe secure some more
  146. 4:49cars coming in so sales and stuff but
  147. 4:52I got a learning experience out of it
  148. 4:53and it helped me understand a lot of
  149. 4:56different aspects of not only the
  150. 4:58automotive business but
  151. 4:59just business in general.
  152. 5:01It changed some of the questions that I
  153. 5:02ask today for sure.
  154. 5:05Like when a business changes hands,
  155. 5:06what's actually transferring?
  156. 5:09Is it just the equipment? Is it just the
  157. 5:11location?
  158. 5:13Is it just a name?
  159. 5:15Or the trust that makes somebody pick up
  160. 5:16the phone and come back?
  161. 5:18Those are completely different things.
  162. 5:21We got Big Joe.
  163. 5:23The store manager
  164. 5:25is the whole operation.
  165. 5:27He did a lot.
  166. 5:28With a low car count
  167. 5:31he made every ticket count.
  168. 5:33He sure did.
  169. 5:35He would sell everything and then fix it
  170. 5:37all and then
  171. 5:39move on to the next one.
  172. 5:41Uses junior technicians to just help him
  173. 5:43out and service advisor, which he very
  174. 5:45rarely had one or two extras.
  175. 5:48It was just usually just him and one
  176. 5:49other.
  177. 5:51And he did it with heart passion that
  178. 5:54most people don't have.
  179. 5:55Cuz he just wanted to win,
  180. 5:57provide for his family, and his
  181. 5:59teammates.
  182. 6:01And that's what it was all about for Big
  183. 6:02Joe.
  184. 6:04I remember the first time we met,
  185. 6:07he was so proud of the million bucks.
  186. 6:08And I said, "You can do so much more if
  187. 6:10you just
  188. 6:12branch out a little bit.
  189. 6:14Start teaching some other people take
  190. 6:16the reins to some others and show them
  191. 6:19what you know, Big Joe."
  192. 6:21But that was very difficult for him.
  193. 6:24Some of the things that he grew up
  194. 6:26doing, he just needed to do by himself.
  195. 6:28And
  196. 6:29that's all right, I get it.
  197. 6:31It's hard to
  198. 6:32let go and teach and coach. It's a very
  199. 6:34difficult thing to do.
  200. 6:36But ultimately,
  201. 6:39he started to pick up on some stuff.
  202. 6:41He bought in.
  203. 6:43We taught him a lot.
  204. 6:46He learned a lot. He was coachable.
  205. 6:48He's very coachable and I remember this
  206. 6:50one time
  207. 6:53I was hanging out in the shop with him
  208. 6:54and we did this
  209. 6:56brake sale together and
  210. 6:58we're going back and forth and just
  211. 7:00talking.
  212. 7:01And that transferred communication
  213. 7:03between each other in the moment
  214. 7:05watching the customer just light up,
  215. 7:08having some fun with the technicians.
  216. 7:10After we sold the job, he looked at me
  217. 7:12and says,
  218. 7:13"That was awesome."
  219. 7:15I can't believe I just did that with
  220. 7:17you. I was like, "Dude, that was cool."
  221. 7:20And that's when I knew that we had a
  222. 7:21good relationship and
  223. 7:22special relationship that
  224. 7:25he was going to go somewhere from my
  225. 7:26teaching. He was going to go somewhere
  226. 7:28as he wanted to and he had every
  227. 7:31intention to be the best.
  228. 7:33What you do what you do
  229. 7:36so that you can move on or you can exit
  230. 7:39and the store will keep running in the
  231. 7:42direction that it should
  232. 7:44because you have people underneath you
  233. 7:45that are growing.
  234. 7:47Cuz ultimately that's what it's about.
  235. 7:49That's what it's That's the difficult
  236. 7:51part.
  237. 7:53And here's where the two stories meet.
  238. 7:55While the question is whether the
  239. 7:56relationships
  240. 7:58transfer with the business.
  241. 8:02And with Joe, the question is whether
  242. 8:04the relationships can extend beyond the
  243. 8:06person who built them.
  244. 8:08In both cases, you just can't assume
  245. 8:10that it happens.
  246. 8:12You've got to plan for it.
  247. 8:14You have to do the work.
  248. 8:16You have to start with the person.
  249. 8:19You have to build the trust. You have to
  250. 8:21earn the loyalty.
  251. 8:23And you got to teach the team the
  252. 8:24behaviors
  253. 8:25that earned it.
  254. 8:27That's where the difficult part comes
  255. 8:29into play.
  256. 8:31Those behaviors have to be a part of
  257. 8:33everything that you do every single day.
  258. 8:35You have to
  259. 8:36speak the why every single day and the
  260. 8:39how. Teach the how.
  261. 8:42That's how you give yourself a chance
  262. 8:45to exit the right way with somebody
  263. 8:48taking
  264. 8:49the reins and going to the next level
  265. 8:51in your place.
  266. 8:53If you're an owner or manager,
  267. 8:56we're going to do a little exercise and
  268. 8:57I know we're starting with three things.
  269. 8:59First, identifying
  270. 9:01customer experience that
  271. 9:03still depends on you.
  272. 9:06Who gets asked for by name? Who handles
  273. 9:08the difficult conversation?
  274. 9:10Who gets called when the customer
  275. 9:11doesn't understand the recommendation?
  276. 9:16Pay attention to those moments
  277. 9:18cuz that's where the trust lives.
  278. 9:20Second,
  279. 9:22make the way you handle those moments
  280. 9:24teachable.
  281. 9:26Bring somebody with you.
  282. 9:28Let them listen.
  283. 9:30Let them hear how you talk to them.
  284. 9:32Walk them through with the why
  285. 9:34you asked the question.
  286. 9:36Show them how you respond to the
  287. 9:37customer when they're frustrated.
  288. 9:39Every little step matters in this.
  289. 9:43Don't just give me the answer. That
  290. 9:44doesn't do anything.
  291. 9:46Help them understand the judgment behind
  292. 9:47it.
  293. 9:49Third,
  294. 9:50introduce the team
  295. 9:53before you disappear from the
  296. 9:54relationship. During the coaching
  297. 9:56moment, during the
  298. 9:58day off exit, during the vacation exit,
  299. 10:00or
  300. 10:01during the exit.
  301. 10:03Let the customer hear you express the
  302. 10:04confidence that the person that's going
  303. 10:06to be taking over for you is the person
  304. 10:07to take care of them
  305. 10:10for the next
  306. 10:11however long.
  307. 10:13Because you have to be the bridge of
  308. 10:15trust.
  309. 10:17And your team needs more responsibility
  310. 10:19and they need to understand
  311. 10:21that you trust them and you believe in
  312. 10:22them
  313. 10:23and that will make them follow through.
  314. 10:26So, try one hand off this week.
  315. 10:28Here's something practical that you can
  316. 10:29do.
  317. 10:31Take one customer interaction that
  318. 10:32normally comes straight to you.
  319. 10:34One. Just don't try to rebuild the whole
  320. 10:36business.
  321. 10:37One.
  322. 10:39Have a team member
  323. 10:40watch you handle it.
  324. 10:43Explain what you did.
  325. 10:45Why you did it.
  326. 10:47The reasoning behind it.
  327. 10:50Then have them handle the next one
  328. 10:52while you're right next to them.
  329. 10:55And then talk about it.
  330. 10:57What went well?
  331. 10:59Where did they hesitate?
  332. 11:01Where did they need more confidence or
  333. 11:02knowledge
  334. 11:03or assertiveness
  335. 11:05or awareness?
  336. 11:07The conversation matters because if
  337. 11:09every handoff
  338. 11:10ends with you jumping back in and and
  339. 11:13taking over, well, you haven't done your
  340. 11:15job.
  341. 11:17Just start small. It takes time.
  342. 11:20Be honest with your your teammate.
  343. 11:23You're learning just as much as they
  344. 11:24are. And when you go at it like that,
  345. 11:25then
  346. 11:26that's really special because they know
  347. 11:28that you're just trying the best that
  348. 11:29you can. They They understand that you
  349. 11:32you believe in them and they're trying
  350. 11:33the best that they can.
  351. 11:35The goal is to grow someone who can take
  352. 11:37care of the
  353. 11:38customer and make a sound decision when
  354. 11:40you're busy, out of the building,
  355. 11:42or working on something so that you can
  356. 11:43take your time.
  357. 11:45That's what it's about.
  358. 11:47Taking your time is very important.
  359. 11:49Being able to
  360. 11:51reflect
  361. 11:53is extremely important.
  362. 11:56In closing, I think about my alcohol and
  363. 11:57I think about Joe
  364. 11:59and the stories behind each of these
  365. 12:01businesses and what they went through.
  366. 12:05The years that they put into them, the
  367. 12:06energy, the relationships, and the hope
  368. 12:09that the work is building something.
  369. 12:11And I want that every time a better
  370. 12:12chance of lasting, so that means paying
  371. 12:14attention to
  372. 12:15what actually makes people come back.
  373. 12:18If it's you that own that, be proud.
  374. 12:20Be proud of the trust that you've
  375. 12:21earned.
  376. 12:23Then develop the people
  377. 12:25who you work with
  378. 12:27who can carry with you
  379. 12:29and to the next level without you.
  380. 12:32Be the reason they come back.
  381. 12:35Then build the operation so that
  382. 12:37you're no longer the only reason.
  383. 12:39This is the operator's edge.
  384. 12:41This page is thinking of an owner or
  385. 12:42manager who carries everything. Send it
  386. 12:44to them.
  387. 12:46And tell me this, what's one thing in
  388. 12:47your operation that you still can't
  389. 12:49leave,
  390. 12:51take your hands off of,
  391. 12:53or can't happen without you?

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