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0:00Why do you think Finland opened its
0:01doors to 27,000 Somalis?
0:04>> In In my opinion, it's poor leadership.
0:06Um you go and you talk to the Finnish
0:08and the and there was never a vote on
0:09whether to take in immigrants or or
0:11leave them out.
0:12>> In your conversation with the locals in
0:13Luxembourg and France and London who are
0:15concerned, what do they say?
0:17>> A lot of them are are very scared.
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1:16I have again in the studio
1:18um
1:18Emily.
1:20And uh the last time Emily was here, oh
1:22mine, it was quite an eye-opening uh
1:25from an outsider. So, you remember I
1:28talked about maintenance one uh uh a
1:30whole episode uh how the concept doesn't
1:33exist in the language and if it doesn't
1:35exist in the language, there is no way
1:38you are going to be able to practice it.
1:41Human drive is all based on the concepts
1:44of your language. So, we talk about
1:46maintenance and what she saw in the 49
1:49countries she visited in Africa,
1:52according to her, 90 if not 100% one
1:55thing
1:56was repeated throughout.
1:59The lack of maintenance, the collapse of
2:01infrastructure,
2:03of systems, of taxation, anything and
2:06everything that had made other countries
2:08to thrive and grow and build and move
2:10forward.
2:12All is based on one thing only. If you
2:15can maintain the system you're building.
2:19And today we are here to talk about her
2:21travels in Europe.
2:23And boy, the comparison
2:26he made as to what he saw and the people
2:29from Africa and Central America
2:31where the problem of maintenance is a
2:33problem, are now migrating to Asia and
2:37of course Western countries. The
2:39question is,
2:41will they bring that same
2:44to Europe?
2:45And if the answer is yes,
2:47then what happened to the places they
2:48are occupying now in the Western world?
2:51Emily, welcome to the studio.
2:54>> Oh, well, thank you for having me. It's
2:55a it's a pleasure to be here and um
2:57>> Yeah.
2:58>> It's very good to conversation last
2:59time.
3:00>> That's correct. Um I've seen the
3:01comments and it's going
3:04everywhere and I'm sure you're following
3:06it also. So, yes, the last time we spoke
3:08about maintenance, right? And we didn't
3:10speak about it as uh disrespect or
3:13insult to the African. In fact, you
3:15brought so many things
3:17uh
3:17that were interesting about how people
3:19should see it.
3:21Of course.
3:21>> Right.
3:22>> Every society, there is something about
3:24them that what that evolved.
3:26>> Yeah.
3:27>> And it will become part of them when you
3:30come in contact. And so, to quickly say,
3:32"Oh, they don't maintain them." Well, I
3:34simply said because we don't have the
3:36concept in any language.
3:37>> Yeah.
3:37>> And you said you did the same thing
3:39asking people when you were in some of
3:41the countries, they don't have the
3:42concept.
3:43And the reason [snorts] they don't have
3:44it is because it never presented itself.
3:47>> Mhm.
3:49>> The
3:50the physical environment never gave you
3:52what will make you develop the concept
3:54of maintenance. Now, sweeping your yard
3:57is not maintenance. Taking a shower is
3:59not maintenance. Grooming your face and
4:01brushing your teeth is not maintenance.
4:03No. Maintenance is you understand food
4:07which is good for your body and
4:09therefore you eat that food.
4:11You prepare ahead when to eat it, what
4:14time to eat it, and how to eat it. All
4:15those things means that this person is
4:17maintaining his or her body. Now, we are
4:20moving out of Africa. You've been to
4:22Asia, you've been to Europe.
4:23>> Yes.
4:24>> So, the question is when you observe the
4:26people you saw in Africa and the decay
4:28of the infrastructure
4:30>> Mhm.
4:31>> the countries you visited, which I don't
4:32know, but you're going to tell us. Did
4:33you see the same people in Africa? Did
4:36you see them in those countries in
4:37Europe?
4:38>> Yeah, of course. Um I I started
4:40traveling through Europe back in 2018.
4:42Um so, this was 8 years ago and even 8
4:44years ago they were prevalent. Yeah, it
4:46was it was very diverse. Europe has been
4:47diverse for a very long time now. Um you
4:51know, it's it's interesting to to go
4:53through all the European nations because
4:54they're all they all have their own
4:55languages and they're all so different.
4:57And there's so there's already so much
4:59diversity in this little tiny continent
5:01of Europe.
5:02>> Yeah.
5:02>> And to put more and more um people from
5:05all around the globe into all of these
5:07tiny little countries, um it it really
5:10changes the atmosphere. It changes the
5:11infrastructure and it changes you know,
5:13changes everything the the education
5:14system and um the way that people are
5:17voting, right?
5:18Uh you know, even even uh there's a
5:21little country called Luxembourg and
5:23it's it's just a micro country. It's the
5:25it's just a tiny tiny little country
5:27outside the border of France. Um and
5:29it's been around for over a thousand
5:31years. It started I think around 920 AD.
5:33Well, today if you go to Luxembourg and
5:35you try to find somebody who speaks
5:36Luxembourgish, right? This is this is a
5:39a very old language that they've been
5:40speaking for hundreds years.
5:42Maybe you want to learn Luxembourgish
5:43and you go there to try to learn it. You
5:45can't find somebody who speaks
5:47Luxembourgish anymore.
5:48So, you hear all of these these people
5:51say, "No, there's so many benefits to
5:52diversity and we need to diversify and
5:54we need, you know, more people in
5:55Europe. We have to diversify Europe."
5:57And I'm going, "Well, if we're if we're
5:58wiping out an entire culture and an
6:00entire people, is that more diversity or
6:02is it less?"
6:03Now, 52% of Luxembourg, this tiny little
6:06country, it only has a little under
6:07700,000 people in it, around 690,000,
6:10over 52% don't have any Luxembourgish
6:14DNA.
6:15They're not of Luxembourgish descent.
6:17So, we've we've taken out this entire
6:18culture from Europe
6:20and replaced it essentially with
6:21everybody else. Maybe maybe they're
6:23coming from places like India or
6:24Nigeria, Indonesia, right? These aren't
6:27minority countries at all. These are
6:28countries with huge populations and
6:30they're flooding this tiny little
6:32country of Luxembourg.
6:34And and what happens to the
6:35Luxembourgish people?
6:37>> [gasps]
6:38>> When you change the language of a place,
6:40you've changed every structure and
6:42system that was there because language
6:44drives everything.
6:46So, if you said your last visit to
6:48Luxembourg,
6:50it's hard to find a native
6:53uh person.
6:53>> Luxembourgish speaker, no.
6:54>> Okay.
6:55What
6:56What has happened to the system,
6:58infrastructure, especially
6:59infrastructure?
7:00>> Every everything's been turned over. Um
7:02yeah, you you change the language and it
7:03changes it changes the culture, it
7:05changes the actions of the people,
7:07right? And yeah, of course, if you don't
7:08have a concept or if you don't have a
7:09word for maintenance, nothing gets
7:11maintained, right? And then this used to
7:12be I mean, Luxembourg was always known
7:14as like a tax haven. It was beautiful.
7:16Like I mean, you look at pictures of it
7:17and it's beautiful. It has this
7:19beautiful river that runs through it and
7:20these bridges and they're intricate and
7:22there's little details on everything and
7:23the the, you know, the architecture is
7:25beautiful and it's it's just so amazing.
7:27It overwhelms you. It's you know, it
7:28inundates you.
7:30Um and all this old history. And now,
7:32when you go there, you walk down the
7:33street and
7:35there's trash and garbage in a lot of
7:37places that that where it didn't used to
7:39be. Um it's not safe in a lot of places
7:43and it it's kind of it's just been
7:45completely um degraded [clears throat]
7:47from from what I saw.
7:48>> look at the countries uh beginning the
7:50time Angela Merkel took over in Germany.
7:53Uh a huge influx of uh the Syrians who
7:56come Okay. Now, immigration,
7:59asylum-seeking refugee, temporal asylum,
8:02and temporal refugee has to be part of
8:04any country's um you know, policy to
8:08say, "Look, just as humans, when one
8:10person is in distress, open your doors
8:13for a certain period of time and then,
8:15you know, help them out." So, I I
8:17support uh asylum. I support refugee
8:19status. Um
8:22I would even say that my people move
8:23into Ghana from Benin. That was some
8:26kind of voluntary uh refugee uh because
8:29>> guys share a border.
8:30>> Yeah, that's correct.
8:32>> The next country over from Syria.
8:34>> Yeah, okay.
8:35>> It's not Germany.
8:36>> taking That's correct. The next country
8:38from Syria is not Germany, right? But,
8:40they won't go to the next country. The
8:42next country wouldn't even want to take
8:43them, you know? So, we, being Africans,
8:46my parents say, "Let's go to Ghana." So,
8:48Ghana, we would say, was our refugee
8:50destination because we were not just
8:51running away from flood in Benin. It was
8:53harsh politically. And so, people were
8:55going to Togo, Nigeria, anywhere you can
8:58live and go to. But, luckily, my parents
9:00were these very charitable people. They
9:03are nice that they taught us we have to
9:05respect Ghanaians. So, everywhere we
9:06have lived in Ghana, you will never hear
9:09anything. My family is a small,
9:10uneducated, poor family, but we did
9:11everything we could to integrate into
9:14the Ghanaian culture.
9:16And uh of course,
9:17if you go across borders, oceans, now to
9:22a culture or an environment that is
9:24distinctly different from where you
9:25came.
9:27So, Benin and Ghana, at least there was
9:29some similarities, you know, in history
9:32and how they divided it artificially.
9:34So, we didn't feel completely out of
9:36place.
9:36>> Right.
9:38>> But if you come from
9:40let's say Sudan and here you are in
9:41Luxembourg where trains come on time,
9:44humans come on time, people respect law
9:47and order, stop for traffic light and
9:49they keep their trash with them until
9:50they go home.
9:51>> Mhm.
9:52>> But where you are coming from that is
9:53not the case, not because it's bad. Just
9:55your physical environment allow you to
9:56evolve that way.
9:57>> Yeah.
9:58>> Let's go to the other countries you
9:59visited. Denmark was one of them who
10:01opened his doors.
10:02>> Yeah.
10:02>> Sweden that used to be very homogeneous
10:05and people went there for only vacation
10:06and went home or education
10:08>> Yeah.
10:09>> opened its doors.
10:10>> Yeah.
10:10>> Germany did. France did and paid a price
10:13with Charlie Hebdo, right? The the media
10:16company that was blown away with AK-47.
10:19>> Yeah.
10:19>> And the London train bombing and then
10:21the bus that runs into people and kill
10:23them on the beaches in France, right?
10:25>> Mhm.
10:25>> You're not saying that you're saying not
10:27only these terrorist acts but when you
10:29saw the Africans in the Central Africans
10:32in these countries you went recently. I
10:33haven't been.
10:35You said it's turning into trash.
10:37>> Yeah, of course there's there's garbage
10:39everywhere. There's piles of garbage
10:40now. I mean I remember going to
10:41Brussels, Belgium. That's really the
10:43heart of it in Europe. If you wanted to
10:44go to the heart of the the belly of the
10:45beast, you go to Brussels, Belgium. And
10:48there are there's trash. I have videos
10:49of it. It's piled up and it's as high as
10:52two-story buildings now.
10:54>> [snorts]
10:54>> There's no There's no Belgian culture in
10:56Brussels anymore.
10:58You know, you go there and you think
10:59that you're going to you know, go find
11:01people of Belgian descent or some kind
11:03of history in Belgium and it's gone.
11:05It's been completely replaced and you
11:07know, everybody's talking about it now
11:08but it's
11:09I I don't I don't know what the next
11:11step is. What do you do about this, you
11:12know? It's
11:14>> Where recently were you in London?
11:16>> Oh, I was there earlier this year. I was
11:18there very recently. Yeah.
11:19>> Okay, what did you see?
11:22>> I can't I I
11:23you you you go into Birmingham and
11:26you're not in London anymore.
11:26>> Oh, wow.
11:29It's okay. [laughter]
11:30I can't tell you but I can tell you it's
11:32not Yeah, it's a completely foreign
11:33place. Um and it's it's it's really not,
11:35you know, that the place is is um it's
11:38derived from the people. The people are
11:39what make the place and just because you
11:41you uproot a group of people, a
11:42population, and you plunk them somewhere
11:44else in the world, that doesn't mean the
11:46plane the plane right doesn't change.
11:48>> So, in your conversation with the locals
11:50in Luxembourg and France in London, with
11:52the locals who are concerned,
11:55what do they say?
11:57>> They're very well, a lot of them are are
11:59very scared. They're very they're scared
12:01to speak out because they don't want to
12:03be called names. You know, they're
12:04worried that somebody is going to call
12:05them a xenophobic or a racist or
12:08um they're they're going to get um you
12:10know, branded as as a racist, right? If
12:12they say something. It's interesting
12:13because we just watched South Africa um
12:16go through something similar where they
12:18they were trying to kick a lot of
12:20Africans out of South Africa. And and
12:22when you show that footage to somebody,
12:24nobody would ever even think that, you
12:26know, it would never come up that they
12:27would be xenophobic. Nobody would ever
12:29say that. It wouldn't it wouldn't even
12:30be a thought. But if you know, if a
12:32little country of Luxembourg wants to
12:34remain Luxembourgesh, for some reason
12:36there's a problem with that. You know,
12:38if they want to keep their heritage and
12:39their nationality, they want their
12:40children to grow up the way that their
12:42parents did and their grandparents did,
12:44um
12:45now for some reason there's a big
12:46problem and and it's not politically
12:48correct to say that.
12:50You have to share your nation with
12:52everyone.
12:53>> So, even though I did a video which I
12:55think some of the South Africans
12:57misunderstood me, they thought that I
12:58was condemning them for chasing out
13:01immigrants and that's what I was saying
13:04to them that
13:06their case is that they always look for
13:08a boogeyman.
13:10First it was apartheid and then you are
13:12saying it's foreigners. Who is going to
13:13be next? I wasn't saying that I
13:15supported the foreigners that they are
13:17doing the right thing. No, no, not at
13:18all. I know, as a matter of experience
13:22and encounter,
13:24there are countries in Africa, I know
13:25personally, that if you allow a certain
13:28group of them to live in your country,
13:30they will do things you don't like.
13:32>> Yeah.
13:32>> They will and they do all the time.
13:34I know that as a fact. African countries
13:37The only country in Africa, not because
13:39I'm from there, that you will never hear
13:41in your travels that they've caused
13:42problems, either scamming people,
13:44stealing, killing, fighting in the
13:46streets. Uh the very limited French
13:49countries, Benin is one of them, you
13:51know, Beninese can live among you. We
13:54are somehow reserved and timid in some
13:56ways. They can live among you for years.
13:58You will never hear and know that the
13:59Beninese live here.
14:01>> Mhm.
14:01>> My sister just passed, my elder sister
14:04just passed and I couldn't go.
14:06>> Sorry.
14:07>> And then I think it was on Facebook, so
14:09a couple a couple who are from Benin
14:10that I've never known about lived just
14:13here in Stanford and invited me.
14:15>> Wow.
14:16>> said, "You guys live here?" They said,
14:17"Yeah." And
14:19they they started pointing to. Okay?
14:22Now,
14:23if Nigerians had lived here,
14:25>> Mhm.
14:26>> you would hear about them before they
14:27arrived
14:29because of their nature. They are very,
14:30you know,
14:31flamboyant and all that.
14:32>> Yeah.
14:33>> They used to close the streets back in
14:34the '70s in London to do a naming
14:36ceremony for a kid.
14:38>> Yeah.
14:40>> And the Metropolitan Police was allowing
14:41them from to block roads and do their
14:43parties in the roads. A Beninese would
14:45never do that.
14:46>> [laughter]
14:47>> Ghanaians a little, you know, changed.
14:49Senegalese, maybe you find them only in
14:52their little communities, okay? But
14:55majority
14:56So, I have seen what we were discussing
14:58earlier the first time in our video
15:00about maintenance and I'm thinking to
15:02myself,
15:03so you are a very small or whatever
15:05country you are in Europe, in Asia,
15:07where you for years you've trained your
15:09children on how to dispose trash and
15:12maintain things,
15:14especially if you buy a house, even
15:16though you bought it, but you share the
15:18neighborhood. So, to bring the value of
15:21your neighbors down
15:22>> No. you don't keep the maintenance of
15:25your house. The front lawn, the side
15:28lawn, the fence, the broken cars, don't
15:30park them because other buyers in the
15:32future will look take a look at your
15:34house and it has brought the value of
15:36your neighborhood. This is why some
15:38neighborhoods tell the real estate
15:40people, "Don't bring in these type of
15:42people." They're not talking about your
15:43skin color.
15:45They are talking about we know their
15:47culture.
15:48We wish we can be that that free and
15:50just dispose trash anyhow we want. Who
15:52doesn't want to be free?
15:54But because they know of your culture,
15:56they will say, "Don't."
15:58And like you said, you say because they
15:59are racist. But who in this world should
16:03work hard to keep a manicured lawn,
16:06fence repaired and painted nicely, every
16:09trash is kept and say, "Oh, no, but
16:12because I'm human being Emily, oh, yeah,
16:14she's from Somalia.
16:16They cook on the front lawn and play
16:18music until 2:00 a.m. It's fine because
16:20they are humans." No, you you destroy a
16:22lot of things.
16:25And capital as we spoke is one of them.
16:29Now, the European countries, I don't
16:31know
16:33why they do this
16:35where they threw their gates open.
16:37I don't know if I say it and people say
16:39I'm naive. I think there is some level
16:41of compassion
16:43of the Westerner.
16:46Maybe it's a guilt
16:48because they've heard so much on social
16:50media through the liberal, you know, the
16:51new liberal institutions that you were
16:55the reason these countries are poor.
16:57Maybe that affecting them that they
16:59wanted to open their gates hopefully
17:00thinking if they come in here or like
17:03somebody put it, "No, it is this
17:05superiority complex that let's open our
17:08gate to prove to them that, you know, we
17:09can help you." I don't believe the
17:11second one. I think the first one may be
17:13the case that
17:14>> Yeah. Well, it's interesting because
17:16there's a different story for why
17:18Europeans have to take migrants in and
17:20it's a different story for every single
17:21country. You know, you look at Ireland.
17:23Ireland wasn't a colonizer, they were
17:25the colonized. You know, I mean, we took
17:27in the Irish way before long before we
17:29ever had welfare or any kind of benefits
17:30in the United States. We took in all the
17:31Irish, they were going through a famine.
17:33They said, you know, it was because of
17:35the British. They had they, you know,
17:36the tiff between the Irish and the and
17:38the British, but
17:39there's a different story for why every
17:41single country in Europe has to take
17:43immigrants. You go up to Finland.
17:45Finland was never
17:47They never colonized anybody. Finland?
17:49But so for some reason, they have 27,000
17:52Somalis that they pay half a billion
17:54dollars a year for, 18,000 about 18,500
17:57dollars per per head.
17:59The
18:00They're not doing well. It's It's not
18:02It's not going well for Finland and and
18:04it's It's become a very big problem, but
18:07but you know, the question is
18:08>> live in a community like Minnesota in in
18:11Ireland?
18:12>> And and nobody speaks the the local
18:14language. They have to You know, of
18:15course, if they're going to
18:18Nobody speaks Finnish. They're They're
18:20speaking their own language. They stay
18:22in their communities and they don't
18:23interact with the Finnish people.
18:26>> But they they rely on the welfare.
18:30>> 18,500 dollars per year per head.
18:33I I don't I don't know why anybody would
18:35do this. It doesn't make any sense.
18:36>> after college.
18:39My first job.
18:40>> It's Yeah, I Yeah, exactly and No, I I
18:43don't see the benefit in any of that.
18:44>> Okay, so why do you think Finland opened
18:46its doors to 27,000 Somalis?
18:49>> In my opinion, it's poor leadership. You
18:52go and you talk to the Finnish and there
18:53was never a vote on whether to take in
18:55immigrants or or leave them out. No,
18:57actually, no European country has ever
18:59had a vote on immigration. There hasn't
19:01been one European country. There's never
19:02been a democratic vote on immigration.
19:06But the leaders decided, "Hey, this
19:08could increase the GDP. Maybe Maybe we
19:10could Maybe we could increase the
19:11economy or maybe, you know if we need
19:13more money for welfare
19:14>> good intentions behind it if you ask me
19:16because to be honest with you, I don't
19:18believe that any leader of any country
19:21recklessly make a decision that he knows
19:23or she knows will destroy his legacy.
19:25Every politician's dream is I will leave
19:28a legacy behind.
19:30But not all good intentions yield
19:33good results.
19:35So I believe the intentions were very
19:37pure. Now I'll tell you something I know
19:39because I'm a child of the 60s.
19:41There was a huge immigration in the 60s
19:43and 70s from West Africa to Europe.
19:46To the point that there was a
19:48a certain genre of highlife music that
19:51was called burger highlife.
19:54Because those musicians
19:56developed those songs while they were
19:57living in Germany. So Germany became a
19:59home to me a lot of Ghanaians.
20:03But like I told you about certain tribes
20:04and
20:06groups from Africa, some of them will
20:08live among you and you find it to be
20:09pleasant. Now that doesn't mean that
20:11they don't trash or but at least
20:13So Ghanaians have been going to you know
20:15some of our popular guys we know
20:16musicians all moved to Germany in the
20:1970s. There was a huge movement. The
20:22second one was the UK. Ghanaians were
20:24going there in the 70s. But there is
20:26something you said earlier and I agree
20:28with you completely.
20:30When I started traveling, there was no
20:32social media.
20:33When I started traveling, there was no
20:35selfie iPhone. There was no
20:39FaceTime WhatsApp.
20:42You pick the phone from the wall, call
20:44the taxi to go to the airport.
20:46Once you hang it up, you are invisible
20:48to the world. Yeah.
20:50So what did I do when I go to foreign
20:52countries where I was posted? I have to
20:54rely on the locals
20:56to know the bus stop, the church house,
20:57the marketplace, everything. For your
21:00life to move, you you need to rely on
21:02the locals.
21:04So you behave properly knowing that the
21:06locals are there to help you. Let me
21:08take you to the time before MapQuest.
21:11Every gas station made it an unofficial
21:13responsibility that drivers would pull
21:14over and ask you the next exit.
21:17No matter how busy you you are, you know
21:20that before we had MapQuest and Google
21:22Drive, gas stations you stop and say,
21:24"Hey, I'm going to, you know, Arizona,
21:26whatever." And they [clears throat]
21:27always would showed you.
21:30Or you pulled over and another
21:32motorist would show you. So, we relied
21:34on each other and we did not misbehave.
21:37Today,
21:39compared to the time when I was in Asia
21:40and Europe,
21:42you leave home, you have your cell
21:43phone.
21:44I cannot remember any plane ride I took
21:47in the '70s and '80s and the '90s
21:50that my passing, the next person to me,
21:52we did not exchange numbers, get to know
21:54each other, talk about because there was
21:56no Some flights didn't even have in in
21:59in what on-flight magazine. There was no
22:01cell phone, no laptop.
22:03So, you are forced to speak and exchange
22:05drinks, you know, back then you can you
22:07can smoke on the airlines, with the
22:08first class and they bring you the
22:09[laughter] keep bringing you the
22:10whiskey. It was best and you dress
22:12properly. Even this was considered too
22:14casual in those days for travel, short
22:16distances.
22:18Some 2-hour flight.
22:21You have to dress up.
22:24We have become like animals today.
22:27Recently, I had a flight I was trying to
22:29talk to this because it's become part of
22:31me because of the days when I was flying
22:33that it's rude to even sit and not look
22:35to the right and talk.
22:37>> [laughter]
22:37>> She had a laptop, had a cell phone, a
22:40headphone throughout the entire flight,
22:426 hours long.
22:44Didn't speak to me.
22:47And I was praying in my head,
22:50"God, send a little turbulence
22:54and let me see how she will scream and
22:56hold my hand."
22:58>> [laughter]
23:02>> Yes, only when death comes near.
23:04>> [laughter]
23:04>> Yeah.
23:05>> Okay.
23:06>> you rely on the community.
23:07>> And I found this whole thing to be so
23:08uncomfortable because now I can't look
23:10towards her because it's like you're
23:12Okay, and how far can I look straight
23:14ahead of me?
23:15>> [laughter]
23:17>> You go to Japan.
23:19When I lived there, you could have gone
23:216 months before you run into a black
23:22person. And when you see them,
23:24properly behaved.
23:28Today,
23:31our friend
23:32>> Mhm.
23:33>> just came back. He went to Japan last
23:35year.
23:36>> Mhm.
23:36>> I said, "Now Japanese are putting chain
23:38on their bicycles.
23:39We never did back then.
23:42We never locked doors. We never locked
23:44bicycles.
23:46But people from my continent are
23:48stealing these bicycles and filling
23:50containers with it and sending it home.
23:52Number two, they are fighting in the
23:53streets of Tokyo at night.
23:57Everybody has a cell phone, and it do
23:59tell you where your community is. So,
24:01you don't even need to rely on the
24:03locals.
24:05>> Yeah.
24:06There's no community. There's no
24:08interaction.
24:08>> Now, somebody would say to me, and
24:10somebody did say to me, "Why do you care
24:12so much about these things going on in
24:14Europe? Why? Why do you care? Are you an
24:15European?" No, I'm not.
24:20But here I am in a Western country.
24:23I migrated
24:24>> Mhm.
24:25>> because the place was intact
24:27with the culture, the customs, the
24:29traditions that made it more livable
24:32than my own country,
24:34>> Mhm.
24:34>> where I cannot question a policeman and
24:36go home alive.
24:38>> Mhm.
24:39Mhm.
24:40>> Where I can't have a misunderstanding in
24:41the streets and not result into a fight
24:44and violence.
24:46Where I cannot rely on a contractor to
24:49say he wouldn't steal the money I'm
24:51going to give him. He's going to put up
24:53the building on time, within schedule,
24:55and within budget.
25:00That I can marry a woman and not be
25:02constantly afraid how her parents would
25:04tell her how to turn me into a snake and
25:06make me into money.
25:07Okay? I'm making it a joke, but that is
25:09a place I come from.
25:11>> Yeah.
25:13>> So, if this place was not there,
25:16my talent, I couldn't have used it in my
25:18own country.
25:19>> Mhm.
25:20>> The first newspaper to give me a break
25:22in the world was not a local newspaper
25:24from my country.
25:26>> Mhm.
25:27>> Was the Washington Times.
25:30>> Oh.
25:32>> So, my concern when people say, "Why are
25:34you concerned about Europe?" Because I
25:35know many, many more African children
25:37are going to be born who would like to
25:39go to the West
25:41and have great education
25:44and practice their talent
25:46or put their talent to use
25:47>> Mhm.
25:48>> as the soccer players are being, you
25:49know, recruited by by these countries.
25:5290%
25:55of things we do to develop, to grow, to
25:57build
25:58is our interactions with Europe. Either
26:00we invite them in or we go there.
26:04Our schooling system,
26:05>> Mhm.
26:06>> trainings.
26:08>> [snorts]
26:08>> So, when I worry, I'm worried for
26:10the next and the next and the next
26:12generation of Africans
26:13>> Mhm.
26:14>> who must have a place they can go for
26:16this exchange to be beautiful where they
26:18can bring it back home.
26:19>> Mhm.
26:21>> The way things are,
26:24the things we have or we don't have,
26:29there is no way and this will sound
26:33controversial to many people, but if
26:35they can sit and study it properly,
26:39Africa can go on for 10 years without
26:42Europe.
26:45If you have a society
26:48that doesn't have
26:50a manufacturing process system
26:54of developing goods and services locally
26:58from automobile, electronics, visual
27:01aids, audio aids, medical,
27:03pharmaceutical, you name it, everything
27:06that drives a human being are all
27:08imported.
27:12I went to Denmark and I was there for 3
27:14weeks, I believe. One day I was coming
27:15from jogging and something just struck
27:17me and I sat down under a tree, and I
27:19said, "Wait a minute. I've been here for
27:213 long weeks in Germany."
27:24Sorry, Denmark.
27:28And from morning every day then I wake
27:30up and I go to the coffee pot.
27:34And I go to the bathroom.
27:36And I go to my living room.
27:38And I turn on the television and then
27:39the the cab becomes and picks me up.
27:44Everything I use until I return
27:47late night to go to bed.
27:49Nothing in Denmark reminded me
27:52of Africa.
27:56That I saw things and say, "Yeah, this
27:57is from Africa. This is because of
27:59Africa." Or that is because of
28:01Some idiots are going to say, "Yes, they
28:02came and stole our resources." They say
28:04it on our
28:05natural Yeah, I know those who are going
28:07to say that, but it's not true. We all
28:08know. Then I returned
28:11to Kenya because at that time I was
28:12living in Kenya, right? So now the
28:15thought is on my mind like, "Wow,
28:16interesting."
28:19An European country. I didn't see
28:20anything physically that I would say,
28:22"Oh, wow." That I needed it that day. I
28:24needed it tomorrow.
28:26Then I came to Kenya.
28:28So I was trying to see
28:31what is in Kenya making life move and
28:34that didn't come from
28:36Europe.
28:39That the Kenyans can wake up.
28:40If everything that came from Europe were
28:43taken away, that the Kenyans can wake up
28:45from 6:00 a.m. to midnight and still
28:47function correctly. And I started
28:48looking at cars, airplanes, electronics,
28:51pharmaceuticals, hospital equipments,
28:53roads, restaurants, utensils, cooking
28:56appliances. You name it. I keep looking.
28:59Even the skin texture has to be
29:01ointments and lotions imported from
29:04Europe. I am not saying that there is
29:06anything good or bad. The people just
29:08happen to know how to manufacture based
29:11on the challenges they have had in the
29:12past as we talk about proactive
29:14maintenance. So, they know how to build
29:15the systems and somebody have to be the
29:17consumer, which happen to be a big
29:19continent in the world. Without Africa,
29:21without Africa, Europe as a whole will
29:23be buried under
29:26secondhand.
29:27There is no way Europe can dispose of
29:29its secondhand goods they throw away.
29:33If Africa was not a dumping ground for
29:35secondhand goods.
29:38So, you see the world balances. Somebody
29:40have to manufacture, somebody have to
29:42buy it.
29:43>> Yeah. Yeah, of course.
29:44>> So, the buyer is as important
29:47as the one manufacturing.
29:50But I'm [snorts] saying the manufacturer
29:52can sustain life even if it doesn't have
29:55a buyer. But the buyer can't sustain if
29:58it doesn't if it doesn't import or
29:59manufacture. And that is the balance
30:01between Europe and Africa. So, we need
30:03to pray to keep Europe vivant
30:06as to the things they have done.
30:08This is my reason that I I complain and
30:11talk about this phenomenon that um
30:14if you are going to migrate, migrate,
30:16but migrate to say that I would help the
30:19host country
30:20in a best way.
30:22But to go and congregate, you know what
30:24is funny? If a bunch of Europeans want
30:25to move to Africa, and they do come
30:27sometimes for 6 months, 8 months, a
30:29year. We don't have any welfare systems.
30:32For example, if a war were to break
30:34break out between France and Italy and
30:36some of them says, "We are moving to
30:38Africa." We don't have any welfare
30:40systems to sustain them. We had wars
30:42break out among neighboring countries.
30:44And when it came to our country, Benin
30:46was the one who took a lot of uh
30:49Rwandese, Togolese, Liberians
30:52waiting to come to the west, okay? Kenya
30:55took a lot of them including Ilhan Omar.
30:57But the refugee camps were paid all by
30:59the United Nations,
31:01not the local.
31:03They won't even make sure that you
31:04become a citizen. They won't even give
31:06you work permit.
31:08We kept them for years and never give
31:09them anything. Yeah. Imagine Europeans
31:12come to any country in Africa because
31:13they have a war. We don't have a
31:16a welfare system. But you go to Finland
31:19>> Yeah.
31:19>> and you are paid 18,000 plus a year. A
31:22billion for 27,000 people.
31:24>> Mhm.
31:25>> And nothing at all taught you to say,
31:27"What best can we do for this place?"
31:29If you destroy it, how
31:32do the other generations to come find a
31:34place also to go? This is my only reason
31:37I talk about we got to do something
31:39about this.
31:40Mass immigration that is doing nothing.
31:42Nobody is saying anything positive about
31:44it.
31:45>> No. And and immigration in small amounts
31:47when people can integrate properly,
31:49that's not a problem. But
31:51when it's massive amounts where
31:52literally the population's being
31:53replaced like in the case of Luxembourg,
31:56it's it's disheartening for us too
31:57because this is our homeland. You know,
31:59could you imagine somebody coming into
32:01your homeland and just and just
32:03taking it from you. Um it's it's it's uh
32:07it's heartbreaking honestly to to see
32:09>> To be honest to the immigrant, to be
32:11honest with you, I would not at all
32:13blame the immigrant one second.
32:17>> Well,
32:18there there's a I I think there's a lot
32:20of problems with the the leadership. Um
32:23what what what would you do? Let me ask
32:24you what you would do if you were the
32:25government of of any European country
32:28that was facing immigration mass
32:30immigration. What what would you do?
32:32What would you say?
32:32>> It's not just mass immigration. It's not
32:34what we discussing at all because you
32:36can take in let's say for example
32:39let's say for example Luxembourg had
32:41taken in mass immigrants from Japan.
32:46Right?
32:47Or Luxembourg has taken in mass
32:49immigrants from Germany.
32:53What you describe as
32:54trash piling up two story high,
32:57people sucking the
32:58the the the welfare system, people
33:01failing to even integrate in any shape
33:03or form. This is what destroys the
33:05environment, not the number that came
33:07there.
33:08>> But even if they were making even if it
33:10was Japanese people that were coming in
33:11and turning Luxembourg into Japan and we
33:13can we can say Japan is better than
33:15Luxembourg. I'll say that.
33:16>> Yes.
33:16>> I don't I I don't really have an opinion
33:18versus the two, but I still would want a
33:21country for the Luxembourg people.
33:22>> I understand, but Japanese have a way of
33:25forming a community wherever they go.
33:28>> Right, right.
33:28>> They would do so because they also
33:30understand that there must be the host
33:33population for us to even thrive.
33:35>> Yeah.
33:36>> Because the host population understands
33:37this terrain better than us. So let's
33:40segregate into a small corner while we
33:41are helping with the economy, trade,
33:43okay? So that the host if it was not
33:46there, we wouldn't have come as Japanese
33:47in the first place. So they do that is
33:49what I mean by you Luxembourg can take
33:52any number of Japanese and nothing would
33:54affect the central culture.
33:56>> Yeah, no but no matter what race,
33:58religion, whatever people they are. I
34:00just don't I want to see Luxembourg for
34:01the Luxembourgese. I don't want
34:03>> It has to. But the people coming in have
34:05to have that conscience to say, "Look,
34:07if you are going to anybody's house,
34:09you're not going to rearrange
34:10>> Yeah.
34:11>> the furniture." There is a Nigerian
34:12woman in Ireland calling for the
34:15government or the people to recognize
34:17them and allow them to redesign these
34:20are her words redesign because the
34:22countries have been inherited before.
34:26Not only she didn't stop there. She's
34:28asking that they should change the
34:29language and that Irish
34:31is not necessary needed to teach.
34:34>> Could you even imagine if a European,
34:36you know, were to go over and say, "Hey,
34:38we're we're going to rearrange
34:40everything." Yeah, and of course this
34:42this causes outrage anywhere in the
34:44world where you go and do this. We've
34:45seen it before in the past. It causes
34:47outrage. But for some reason when it's
34:49being done to European countries, people
34:51don't have that same opinion.
34:52>> You asked me if I was uh an European
34:54leader, what would I do? Um
34:57the one thing is you are never going to
34:59stop immigration. No. Now, if you are
35:02Poland, you can Yeah, you could stop
35:03immigration by closing your borders and
35:05say, "No, you can come as a tourist, a
35:07refugee uh for short time, and we'll
35:09make sure you are out." Israel is the
35:11same thing. They watch you for a while
35:12and say, "You was
35:14overstayed your welcome." And they will
35:15send you out. So, countries can do it.
35:20But so for that, if I were an European
35:23country,
35:24I would I would insist on segregation,
35:28which means that
35:30a certain number of immigrants we I
35:32would I would
35:33like
35:35designate cities for them.
35:38>> Yeah.
35:38>> When you do so, yeah, it's like what you
35:40are trying to do is what the United
35:42States have done. 50 states, extremely
35:45federated, that one state can suffer
35:48economically, earthquake, whatever, but
35:50the main
35:52>> Yeah, it's the division of power.
35:54>> Yeah. The country will still be there.
35:56And the one that is there can then uh as
35:59we say, you declare bankrupt, chapter
36:0111,
36:02>> Mhm.
36:02>> on this state and absorb it.
36:04>> Mhm.
36:04>> Okay? Even the states in the United
36:07States are segregated along districts,
36:09right? Like the the towns have their own
36:11PD, their own uh city council, right?
36:14Each town has its own PD, each city
36:16council.
36:17>> Mhm.
36:17>> So, even the towns are segre- the states
36:19is segregated.
36:20>> Mhm.
36:21>> So, that if one town in Connecticut
36:24is suffering, which happened in the
36:261970s with Bridgeport. Mhm.
36:28That the state wanted to chapter 11
36:30Bridgeport and then take it over.
36:32>> Mhm.
36:33>> So, there will be no mayor or anything,
36:34and they will help it. Schools are
36:36always uh bankrupted, and the state will
36:39take the school if it's not doing well
36:40in the city. This is what has made this
36:43country such a dynamic country that
36:46nothing affects the central core system
36:48of the country. So, if I was an European
36:50leader,
36:51and these people are coming from
36:52outside, and I know that they have a
36:53very distinct culture, starting from
36:56what we're talking about, the very first
36:58thing you want of any immigrant is
37:01maintenance.
37:02>> Mhm.
37:03>> Okay?
37:03>> Mhm.
37:04>> The Africans that were taken, my
37:05great-great-grandfathers that were taken
37:07and brought to the Western world,
37:08especially in the United States of
37:09America, 500 years, and they have not
37:12been able to shed away.
37:15They still trash anywhere they leave.
37:18After 500 years, all you have to do is
37:21go to Baltimore, go to Detroit, go to
37:24Bridgeport, go to the inner cities of
37:26this country.
37:27>> Mhm.
37:27>> And you're not going to see Japanese who
37:29trash their corners or Koreans or
37:31anybody else.
37:32>> Mhm.
37:32>> So, the person who solved the problem of
37:35maintenance as being more biological, I
37:37am totally
37:38for it. It is now for us to recognize
37:41it. We didn't put it in ourselves. The
37:43physical environment allow us to evolve
37:46in that way. When you have that
37:48understanding, then to your earlier
37:49question when you came on the show is
37:51then what you do? Then you look outside
37:53and say, we can get people who
37:54understand this problem to manage it for
37:57us. One of the best waste management
37:59countries on Earth and companies, waste
38:02management companies, is in Japan.
38:04>> Yeah.
38:05>> Now, in Singapore,
38:06>> Mhm.
38:07>> even the United States is losing its
38:08grip completely on what used to be the
38:11traditional maintenance culture in this
38:13country.
38:14>> Yeah.
38:16Yeah, absolutely. Well, and and personal
38:18responsibility is is a big part, too.
38:20>> Yeah, but personal responsibility, the
38:22prerequisite to a personal
38:23responsibility is first for you to know
38:25your nature.
38:27>> Yeah. Well,
38:27>> In order to be responsible for it.
38:29>> Yeah.
38:30>> I'm a loud person, for example.
38:32Therefore, when I live in a place where
38:34the people largely are very distant, I
38:37have to know that I live next to the
38:39ocean back in Africa, and we have to
38:41speak loud for each one to hear. And
38:43it's a true story.
38:44>> Yeah.
38:45>> Okay. When you live on the the wave is
38:47constantly coming back and forth. People
38:49tend to speak loud. So, if you are in
38:51the southern part, Accra,
38:52>> Mhm.
38:53>> they speak very loud because of the
38:55ocean.
38:55>> Yeah.
38:57>> If I know that is what made me speak
38:59loud instead of saying, "This is my
39:00nature. This is my personality." and
39:02defending it, then when you move to
39:03places where they are like Japan,
39:05>> Mhm.
39:06>> being aware of it
39:08would make you be accountable.
39:11And you don't get offended if somebody
39:12said, "Please."
39:14So, people say accountability, thinking
39:16that it
39:17Well, if the person is really brilliant
39:19enough to take accountability, he
39:20wouldn't make the mistake in the first
39:21place. So, to your question, I will
39:24insist knowing their background, seeing
39:27even those who were brought here by
39:28force and lived with the people for 500
39:30years have not been able to even
39:33master maintenance, proactive
39:35maintenance. So, if they're coming to my
39:36country and I know that this will
39:37destroy my infrastructure, what I will
39:39do is designate cities for them to What
39:41does that do? It makes you
39:44it gives you the opportunity, you know,
39:45the chance for you to be able to
39:46monitor.
39:49>> I mean, you can argue Dearborn, Michigan
39:51was a city that we completely gave to.
39:53>> The Muslims.
39:54>> We gave it up.
39:55>> you have how many mosque where that
39:58start screaming at 4:30 a.m. in the
39:59morning?
40:00>> Oh, yeah. And then, you know, 9/11
40:01happened, we had zero Muslim
40:02representatives. Today, we have 255.
40:07>> Yeah.
40:08I will never blame the immigrant for
40:10anything.
40:11>> [laughter]
40:12>> Yeah. He said, "Can I come to your
40:15house?" You said, yes.
40:17It is your duty
40:19to screen me
40:21and put in place a system that would
40:23guide me to be useful to your
40:25environment. You give me the free reign,
40:27why shouldn't I take it?
40:29So, Dearborn, Michigan, I don't blame
40:31them. They should build more mosques and
40:32scream even louder.
40:34>> Well, yeah, it's it's our responsibility
40:36definitely to
40:37immigrants.
40:38Yeah, we I mean, we just had
40:40we just found one in Ohio that was uh
40:43quite literally he had you know, he he
40:45had been
40:46um
40:47part of an organization uh
40:50in in Sudan and and we we had no idea
40:53that we let a terrorist into Ohio.
40:56Um he had been taking child child slaves
40:59over in Sudan. We
41:00>> He was elected?
41:02>> No, he wasn't elected, but we we just
41:03found him. He um
41:05he he came through and and it's hard to
41:07check the names too because if the names
41:08are so common
41:08>> wait, wait, wait, yes, you're right.
41:10>> heard about it.
41:11He was just a citizen of the United
41:12>> man of
41:14uh the general and he Yes.
41:17>> But yeah, [snorts] I mean, if you don't
41:18screen anybody and and the the I think
41:20the barrier that we come into is how do
41:22you screen people um
41:24and and
41:26people will say, "Oh, well, well, you
41:28know, why do you think that why do you
41:29think that he's a terrorist because of
41:30his skin color?"
41:33And then you have to constantly go
41:34through these battles of of trying to
41:36figure out who's who. And if they come
41:38over with no passport, no history,
41:39>> Well, a segregated district for
41:41foreigners is not a new thing because
41:43what it happens is when I say monitor,
41:48if he has to come out of that community
41:50to do something harmful to the larger
41:53body of the culture,
41:55>> Mhm.
41:55>> you would notice it because he doesn't
41:56have allies living among. But when you
41:59allow them to live among you, then the
42:01network becomes very fluid and
42:03invisible. You can't put a spy on them.
42:06But when they are a community, you could
42:08easily
42:09You think it was easy to Yes, you
42:12>> What's the next step then? Okay, you
42:14have a community, it's not it's not
42:15working out. Something's not going on.
42:17That's correct. What do you do with that
42:19community?
42:20>> [snorts]
42:20>> Something's not going on like what?
42:21>> Well, like we find the guy in Ohio and
42:23he he used to be the right-hand man of a
42:25literally somebody who was taking slaves
42:27over in Africa. How do What do we do?
42:29What do we do with that? Do we deport
42:30them?
42:31Do we
42:31>> They are a lot of them there.
42:32>> Do we integrate them into the society?
42:34>> no, no integration into a society. No,
42:36no, no. You have to make it Look, what I
42:38say is there is a contract you need to
42:40sign, okay?
42:42The embassies have to have this contract
42:44for people to sign. Don't wait until
42:45they come to your country and start
42:47doing things Why What is the foreign
42:50diplomatic missions? What are they meant
42:51to do? Not just stamp passports. They
42:53are there one The biggest budget for the
42:56diplomatic missions is education. That's
42:59why you have the American Cultural
43:00Center, the British Council. Even the
43:02Russians had a cultural center when they
43:04were in Benin. Especially Cuba had a
43:05cultural center. Embassies always had a
43:08cultural center. Japan embassies have
43:10cultural centers.
43:11>> Yeah.
43:11>> What it it's meant to do is this. If
43:13you're going to get a visa and you know
43:14that you're so distinctively different
43:16from the place you're going, the embassy
43:18should say, "Okay, receive all the
43:20applications and call them to come
43:22through a 72 hours of what is called
43:24cultural sensitivity training."
43:26>> [snorts]
43:26>> So, you are setting something in motion
43:28before the person comes because the
43:29person didn't say I'm going to do
43:31Valentine's Day with my wife and come
43:32back.
43:34That is different. That is tourism.
43:35>> Mhm.
43:36>> But people you know would migrate into
43:38your country, why wouldn't the embassies
43:40It does you
43:42some good and to the person. I have to
43:45go through a lot of Japanese sensitivity
43:46treat. I offered myself to the embassy,
43:49but they had a department that really
43:52helped me to understand what I should
43:53expect when I get to Japan.
43:55>> Well, there there's been the
43:56Scandinavian countries have tried this
43:58um
44:00They I mean they they they literally
44:01have classes teaching migrants not to
44:03rape.
44:04This is something that I really
44:06It doesn't Yeah, it does It's That's the
44:08thing. It's like
44:08>> You're teaching somebody how not to
44:09rape?
44:10>> Yes, they have
44:11>> only way you know is you let your one of
44:13your girls go free with him for a while
44:14and then if he didn't rape then he
44:16passed the test?
44:16>> I guess that's the sacrifice for
44:18diversity.
44:18>> So the United States ways of you got
44:20here and then they would do the
44:21examination to become a citizen. It's
44:22too late. You got to open a a training
44:25[clears throat] and say, "Therefore, for
44:27the first 3 years in our country,
44:30you'll be monitored. These are the
44:31things we just want you to be to be
44:33aware of."
44:34>> But But if it doesn't go well, would the
44:36next step be remigration?
44:38>> Yes.
44:39That should be included in the training.
44:41You say, "If like [clears throat] here
44:43when you have a green card, you have 3
44:45years not to commit any felony. If you
44:47ever
44:48then during that interview, you have
44:50failed completely. Your citizenship
44:51won't go through. So if you make me sign
44:54that contract, it will become
44:57I will I'll be aware of it.
44:58>> Mhm.
44:59>> Okay?
45:00But when I go and I say, "Hey, I'm
45:01coming to your country." Yeah? You have
45:03a $50,000? Yes. You have a 100? Yes.
45:05Boom. We give you a visa. What you are
45:07telling me is be whatever you are when
45:09you get there because we don't have any
45:10rules. The rules must be understood
45:13before the person gets into your
45:14country. This is our only guarantee for
45:16a better future where Europe can remain
45:18we can remain and have this beautiful
45:20relationship still going on for us. Now,
45:22number two. The African countries and
45:25the Central American countries watching
45:26their citizens tearing these places into
45:28pieces.
45:31It is their responsibility also because
45:33the person is still a Ghanaian, a
45:35Nigerian, a Beninois while they are
45:36there.
45:37So whatever they are doing is straining
45:40the relationship you are having with the
45:41foreign country.
45:43So I will say the government of these
45:45countries who have heard, for example,
45:47South Africa. South Africa was screaming
45:49more than 4 8 years ago.
45:52>> Mhm.
45:52>> It started in 2016
45:54that Nigerians were really
45:56not helping South Africa. I went to
45:58Durban.
45:59I went to Amanzimtoti. I went to live in
46:02and my driver was pointing to every
46:04corner we passed. He said, "You see them
46:05there? Those are Nigerians and selling
46:07drugs broad daylight in corners."
46:10Now,
46:11I'm for law enforcement, if you want to
46:13ask me. So, what happened between
46:15civilians and civilians is a slippery
46:17slope.
46:18The citizens
46:20should push their law enforcement and
46:22immigration and say, "If you don't take
46:23care of this problem,
46:25say goodbye to the next election."
46:28And let the law enforcement do but
46:31they also know that the law enforcement
46:33unit as useless as anybody else. So,
46:35they won't call on somebody they know
46:37will disappoint them. So, the civilians
46:38took
46:40the law into their hands.
46:42If they were benefiting from the
46:44immigrants,
46:45they wouldn't chase them out.
46:47>> Um no, no, they wouldn't. I think
46:49there's a
46:50I think there's other There's I mean I
46:52There's been other countries that have
46:53gotten rid of their their immigrants in
46:54different ways other than um monitoring
46:57them or or deporting them en masse. Um I
46:59I'll give you an example. Chile, after
47:01the 2010 earthquake, they took in a lot
47:03of Haitians, 185,000 Haitians.
47:04>> Yeah.
47:05>> Um they were having trouble with the the
47:08people, the population. It wasn't going
47:10well. This was not This was not a a
47:11great uh This was very very bad. Um the
47:15the Chilean government decided to offer
47:16them a plane ticket and say, "Hey, we're
47:18going to let you go visit your family."
47:20In the fine print, they put that if they
47:21went back to their original country,
47:23which you're not supposed to do if
47:24you're you're asylum seeker, you can't
47:26just go back to your original country.
47:27You're supposed to be fleeing from that
47:28country, right?
47:29>> Right.
47:29>> Um they put in the fine print that if
47:31they accepted the the plane ticket, that
47:32they would lose their asylum status.
47:34>> Mhm.
47:35>> All 185,000, nobody read the terms and
47:37conditions, and they all left and they
47:39went back to Haiti.
47:39>> Yeah.
47:41So, you see, it was easy the 2010, it
47:44was easy for Chile because
47:46when they take [snorts] you in as asylum
47:47>> Yeah.
47:48>> because of uh natural disaster or
47:50political
47:51>> Right.
47:51>> you are controlled.
47:52>> Yeah.
47:53>> This is why it made it easy for the
47:55Chilean government to send them out.
47:57But, if they had come in and the Chilean
47:58government said, "Oh, they're coming in
48:00as just
48:01>> students or
48:02>> That's correct.
48:03>> Who Who knows what?
48:03>> Who knows when? Then you cannot track
48:05them anymore. Yeah. And there are three
48:06things you can do when when you are
48:08still on refugee status, and that's why
48:09Israel is good at it. There are
48:11690-something Sudanese, Somalians, and
48:14some Nigerians. And there are some
48:15African countries who would come into
48:17Israel and say, "I'm a refugee asylum
48:19seeker." And they tell a a whole lot of
48:20lies to Okay. But, the
48:23Israel has monitored them. In fact, they
48:25live like in tenement.
48:27They They can collect all 600 and then
48:28690 people today.
48:30>> Yeah.
48:31>> Four, five, six years ago, they went to
48:33them and said, "You say you came from
48:34Somalia. There's no problem going on
48:35anymore. You, Sudan, you've now say We
48:38are giving you I think they said a year
48:39to start getting ready to go."
48:41>> Mhm.
48:42>> So, when they come in as asylum seekers,
48:44you are able to control them because
48:45they have a card. They can't do
48:47anything.
48:47>> Yeah.
48:48>> But, the loose affiliate of volunteers
48:51Oh, sorry. Refugee immigrants who just
48:53go to these countries. Yes, you have to
48:55create
48:57a bottleneck of a path to This is where
49:00you're going.
49:02>> [snorts]
49:02>> Just to monitor until when you see that
49:05what we are seeing in this designated
49:06city is really good, you can then begin
49:09to tap those you want. Countries should
49:12run like companies.
49:14You don't keep an employee just because
49:16the HR gave him the the the key fob for
49:19the door. Therefore, no matter what he
49:21does, countries must begin to be run
49:24like companies. You only keep the ones
49:26that are useful to you.
49:29Not based on color.
49:29>> No, I think it's more than a company,
49:31though. I think I think there's a
49:32there's I mean, there's a there's a um
49:35it's your family. Your Your country that
49:37you're from, that's all your family.
49:38It's your extended extended family.
49:40>> There is the There is the founder and
49:42the owner of a company. And then he
49:45employed people.
49:47>> Okay.
49:47>> [laughter]
49:47>> Yeah, I guess Yeah, I guess you could
49:48say it like that.
49:49>> That's what I mean. And the HR says,
49:51"Yeah." And and that's that's So, these
49:54new employees
49:55>> they they don't have the same heart that
49:58the founder owners family has for the
50:01company.
50:01>> No.
50:04>> So, you say HR says you first 90 days
50:08probation.
50:09>> Yeah.
50:10>> But, you're an employee. You have the
50:11key fob. Why am I on probation? Because
50:14it makes [clears throat] con-
50:16it makes companies run well. We can let
50:19you go in peace.
50:21And we can also go in peace.
50:22>> Mhm.
50:23>> If we can begin to introduce that, even
50:26in countries in Africa, if they can do
50:28it.
50:28>> Mhm.
50:30>> [snorts]
50:30>> If South Africa is going to allow
50:31through its migration system, you know,
50:33Zimbabweans and Kenyans to come,
50:35you must treat the country like it's a
50:37company that was built by somebody.
50:40You ask me, that's why I always love
50:42monarchy.
50:43>> Yeah. Well, yeah, the monarch the
50:45monarchy
50:47you know who's in control and you know
50:49who to point the finger to.
50:50>> You see, you're right about that, right?
50:51I feel more confident.
50:53>> Okay.
50:54>> I feel more safe that yes, this country
50:57>> Mhm.
50:57>> is run by
50:59a blood and bones and muscle who created
51:03it. They will never let it go to pieces,
51:05and I live in it.
51:06>> Yeah.
51:07Yeah, that's that's amazing.
51:09That's natural.
51:10>> some high school dropout line up for 8
51:13hours to vote for some loose guy who
51:15just campaigned so beautifully with
51:16beautiful words and photo shoots,
51:19I'm not safe.
51:22>> Yeah, that's true. You don't know who
51:23you're actually electing.
51:24>> You don't.
51:25>> But, you you know the whole bloodline of
51:26the monarch
51:28you know everything everything about
51:29their history and you know who they are.
51:31>> So,
51:33we destroyed it, and it used to be the
51:35case with African tribes, you know.
51:37>> Yeah, chiefdoms.
51:38>> Yeah, Ashanti people knew that you know
51:40what is funny? I talk about monarchy.
51:42You've been to Ghana, and my friend
51:43who's asking Uh, you know, the the lady
51:46who came on the show and said, "Come
51:47with me." Ashanti
51:49>> Mhm.
51:49>> The Ashanti region, the Ashanti tribe.
51:51>> Yeah.
51:51>> Still made sure that they have their
51:53king.
51:54>> Yeah.
51:55>> They have not given it. And the Ashantis
51:57are more
51:59you know, their allegiance is to the
52:01Otuofo before even Ghana.
52:04South Africa
52:05the Zulus
52:07>> Yeah. [laughter]
52:08>> Okay?
52:09>> Yeah.
52:09>> They said, "Okay, it has become a
52:11country
52:12but we will tell you something. The KZN,
52:13the KwaZulu-Natal
52:15>> Mhm.
52:15>> Each Zulu tribe will have a king, you
52:17know, the Msizi Zulu has under him
52:19kings."
52:20>> Yeah, they kept their their tribal land
52:22still intact.
52:23>> That's correct. That's what I mean by
52:24And why did they do that? Because
52:26monarchies
52:27monarchies work because I trust the
52:30blood and the bone of the lineage from
52:32which this country came.
52:34>> Yeah, and you know that they're one of
52:35you because of the bloodline.
52:36>> It's one of That's correct. And I know
52:38who to point fingers at and I know he
52:40will listen and I know he will protect.
52:41>> Yeah.
52:42>> Until, you know, these Greek guys said,
52:44"Yeah, but a government by the people,
52:46you know, otherwise the masses are going
52:48to be angry. The only way to keep them
52:50from being angry and not attack you
52:52tell them that they have power and they
52:55can vote."
52:57>> Well
52:57>> So, I don't know. We did see the masses
53:00attack a couple of monarchies. So, I
53:02think somebody saw it and said, "Dude,
53:04if you don't tell them that they should
53:06have a voting card, if they get angry,
53:08they will attack you."
53:10>> Yeah.
53:10>> Countries saw it and said, "Yeah, that
53:12is true. I saw the Bolsheviks. I saw
53:14France.
53:15>> Mhm.
53:16>> I saw Yugoslavia."
53:17And so, you begin to say
53:21But, unfortunately
53:24the masses
53:27always outnumber the intellectuals.
53:32So, you have to continuously use some
53:34emotional control mechanisms to get them
53:36waiting for 4 years and go to the polls
53:38before they attack you.
53:39>> Mhm.
53:41>> And because like you said since the
53:43masses are waiting 4 years to go to the
53:46polls, meanwhile the immigrants are
53:48flopping in and there is nothing they
53:49can say until the next election cycle.
53:52>> Yeah.
53:53>> And then the one who promises me that he
53:54will close the gate is the one I will
53:56vote for. But by then, I have 27,000
53:59Somalis collecting 1.5 billion from the
54:02Finland government and they don't even
54:04sweep their own streets.
54:05>> Yeah, and we just saw that with Sweden,
54:07too. Sweden was right on It was almost
54:0950/50. It's got, you know, turned over
54:12by the left and it was because of the
54:13immigrant voters, so.
54:15Yeah.
54:16>> Well, I hope that this conversation,
54:18some young fellows in the European
54:20countries, African countries, wherever
54:21you are, you are listening, you are now
54:2318 and you are going to become a
54:25politician, you're going to get into
54:26office or advise governments. Nothing
54:29There are many things that we can
54:30reverse and we reverse it
54:33by being compassionate, by being in the
54:36shoes of both sides, like I said. The
54:39immigrant has nothing to be accused of.
54:41But the people on the ground should
54:43start thinking properly as to what like
54:45I said, it will benefit both sides.
54:49But if we wait until we succeed in
54:52eradicating Europe,
54:55then that's it. It's like you've choked
54:57your own oxygen line.
55:03>> [laughter]
55:04>> Well, guys,
55:06uh if you watched the the first video I
55:08did with Emily,
55:10we are going to Timbuktu, the country
55:12that many of you have quoted Mali, Mali
55:15Empire, and you want to see inside and
55:17we are going to places where many people
55:20have not been able to get into and we
55:23are going to make that happen so we can
55:24bring you real history and language and
55:28writings and stuff so you can understand
55:31really what happened in that region.
55:34Join
55:35the inner circle
55:37uh of the think tank for Zanu and the
55:39gold think tank for Zanu project
55:41rethink.
55:43Because there are conversations we
55:44cannot have
55:45and you now are going to have access to
55:47me to talk about more topics, more
55:49topics than you've ever heard. I want to
55:52thank Emily really so much for coming to
55:54Connecticut and spending all the way
55:55from Arizona and spending this number of
55:57days and she's still in town. Maybe I'm
55:59able to catch her for another episode
56:01before she would return to Arizona.
56:04Thank you so much for having me. It was
56:05such a pleasure.
56:06Thank you.
56:06>> [laughter]
56:07>> Great. All right guys, don't forget to
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